Trump WINS the Battle for Attention, LOSES the War in Iran
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0:14 Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei said today
0:18 that the country will protect its nuclear and missile
0:21 capabilities and that the only place for Americans
0:23 in the Gulf was at the bottom of its waters.
0:26 The communication comes as President Trump continues to push
0:28 for a broader deal to end the conflict.
0:30 And after he posted on Truth Social, "No more Mr.
0:33 Nice Guy." Meanwhile, the war for which Trump sought no congressional
0:37 approval hit its 60-day mark on May 1st.
0:40 Under the War Powers Resolution, that's when the president is supposed to scale
0:44 back military operations unless Congress signs off.
0:47 And hanging over all of this is growing skepticism,
0:50 especially on Wall Street, about where this is all headed.
0:53 Investors even have a new nickname alongside Taco.
0:56 Now, it's nacho.
0:57 Not a chance or moves opens.
1:00 It's a sign the market isn't buying
1:02 that a deal with Iran is coming anytime soon.
1:05 Defense Secretary Pete Buttigieg testified before Congress yesterday fielding
1:08 questions about the Pentagon budget as well as Iran saying,
1:11 "If we need to go at it again to ensure that success,
1:14 we are prepared to in regards to more military action." Is the rhetoric
1:18 ramping up or is it the same kind of posturing we've been seeing?
1:23 I mean, kind of both.
1:25 I feel like Pete Buttigieg just has one gear
1:30 and he is always in it and it's fifth.
1:32 Is that I guess I can go to sixth, right?
1:34 I haven't driven a stick shift car in a while.
1:36 But I Yeah, it was just more of the same.
1:39 I think he fully got his butt handed to him in those hearings,
1:43 particularly by um Congressman Adam Smith.
1:46 Especially on the timeline.
1:48 Like getting him to admit that there
1:49 was no imminent threat and actually tracking us
1:52 from what happened with Operation Midnight Hammer
1:55 and the quote-unquote obliteration of their nuclear capacities,
2:00 he had to move to a place where he said,
2:02 "Oh, well, they still had nuclear ambitions." Duh.
2:06 Mhm.
2:06 The Iranians are always going to have nuclear ambitions.
2:08 The question is, can they actually get a nuclear
2:10 weapon and can they use it against us?
2:14 Um so, I thought that was a pretty embarrassing uh few hours for him in general.
2:18 Uh shoutout also, Seth Moulton was great and Pat Ryan, too,
2:22 especially talking about how we didn't protect our own military over there.
2:27 You know, we lost six soldiers in Kuwait
2:29 at that base where they had no protections from drone strikes.
2:33 So, they were essentially in like a makeshift office that was
2:36 put up and there were walls, but no roof on it.
2:39 Which, as you know, especially as you're doing an air campaign,
2:42 that stuff can come in from uh from up top.
2:45 So, I thought it was a bad day for Pete Hegseth,
2:47 but the story that I cannot believe and is so
2:51 important to the future of this war and this is
2:56 straight up war news is that apparently the Iranians
2:59 are getting vessels through um disguising them as Iraqi ships.
3:04 So, there is oil getting out of there and they've now
3:07 just updated the thought was that they had something like 10
3:10 to 20 days left um before they were going to have
3:14 to start pumping and dumping essentially their oil that they had.
3:18 That's been moved up to 4 to 6 weeks, which is a completely different timeline,
3:22 especially against the backdrop of this 60-day marker.
3:27 And I've seen um quotes and, you know,
3:29 reporters catching various GOP senators in hallways about,
3:33 you know, "Well, where do we stand?
3:35 Where do we stand?" And they're getting frustrated at this point.
3:38 I mean, this was supposed to be a strike operation,
3:42 similar to what we've seen before and people would be enthusiastic
3:45 about that, but now you're going to drag on past 60 days.
3:48 They're all looking at the midterms saying,
3:50 "We don't want to go into a midterm election with gas at $4.23
3:55 and everybody saying that their economic situation
3:58 is bad except if you own Google essentially.
4:02 And it feels like we're really at a continued
4:06 stalemate and that the government is totally back-footed
4:10 at this point and possibly going to run up against
4:13 a wall of their own supporters in the GOP caucuses.
4:18 Um what do you think?
4:20 Yeah, I think I think that's a decent summary.
4:22 I've been spending all this time looking at big techs earnings yesterday
4:25 and I thought essentially big tech I mean the earnings were just staggering.
4:30 Meta increased its revenues 33% year-on-year for a company that size
4:34 and the others were up between kind of 18 and 28% and I
4:39 was thinking that essentially what you have is our economy is now
4:43 a giant bet on AI and all of these companies benefit from attention.
4:49 And I think what in a strange
4:51 way what's happened is these companies have benefited
4:54 from the fact that everyone's face is now
4:55 glued to their phone to see who we're bombing, what's happened, what he's said.
5:00 I mean I got to think that the amount of attention and Meta showed this.
5:04 Meta's actual time or viewership went up, time went up, CPMs went up.
5:11 And I wonder if that's going to even anger the voting public more
5:15 that there's a small group of companies that are doing so incredibly well.
5:20 No one else can raise money.
5:21 Their electric prices are going up.
5:24 I have a friend in Florida.
5:26 He's a hardcore Trumper and the last time I had dinner with him and this is
5:29 anecdotal but you know sometimes anecdotal can
5:32 be you can draw some conclusions from it.
5:34 He said oh yeah, I'm out on Trump and I said well what was it?
5:37 And his redline was Iran.
5:38 He said I don't I think these wars are stupid.
5:40 So and it also is getting very confusing.
5:43 So people aren't even I think able
5:45 to track the specific nuance of what's going on.
5:48 All they see is we're still there.
5:50 And the basic premise that the Trump administration is up against right now is
5:54 I believe that every day the war goes on, it seeds advantage to the IRGC.
5:59 Because they win by surviving.
6:01 And it's clear we're not going to be
6:02 able to accomplish regime change from the sky.
6:05 It doesn't look as if the president has support to deploy ground troops.
6:10 That would be very risky.
6:12 So, I think their attitude is as long as and it looks like what you were saying,
6:16 I didn't realize that about the Iraqi vessels,
6:18 is they can offload that oil and maintain some sort of economic
6:23 some sort of economic viability that every day this goes on, they win.
6:29 And in a weird sense, every day this goes on, you know, Democrats win.
6:34 I mean, this is just that that hearing yesterday,
6:38 where I agree rep- representative Slotkin and Ryan did a great job,
6:42 just makes the administration look terrible.
6:44 They're unable to answer these questions.
6:45 They have constantly zigzagged.
6:47 They've constantly upended their own assertions.
6:50 And, you know, they've consistently um backtracked on stuff,
6:55 contradicted everything they've previously said.
6:58 They seem to have painted themselves into a corner,
7:01 or Trump has, and that is if he leaves right now,
7:04 it looks like America is When Muhammad Ali first started as a boxer,
7:09 no one denied his strength,
7:11 his speed, his footwork, but he broke his jaw in one of his first fights.
7:15 And people said, "Oh, it's over.
7:16 He has a glass jaw." If America develops a reputation for a glass jaw,
7:20 that is, okay, gets real, we lose some troops,
7:23 we start firing on their neighbors,
7:25 and they leave, and they leave with the Strait
7:27 of Hormuz now determined by the IRGC,
7:30 we look like a glass jaw nation, in my view.
7:33 There's a lot of people in America like, "I don't care.
7:35 We never wanted this thing.
7:36 Get the out." I get it.
7:38 I understand the argument.
7:39 But the reality is that makes us look really bad,
7:41 and our Gulf neighbors say our Gulf allies go, "Okay, let me get this.
7:45 You broke it, now we have to fix it?" At the same time,
7:48 if he continues to engage in the war,
7:51 it feels as if it just seeds more advantage to Iran.
7:54 I really do think this is a definition of a quagmire.
7:57 He has almost no good options here.
8:01 Yeah, um just quickly, I agree with a lot of that.
8:04 And actually, I agree with all of it and wanted to add to it that the argument
8:10 for {quote} "operational excellence" that people had been
8:13 making and also how genius the blockade was,
8:15 even though we're just blockading their blockade
8:17 and there was free flow beforehand.
8:19 So, um you know, I I don't know how well that works as an argument.
8:23 It certainly never resonated with me.
8:25 But if it is true, and it's being widely reported, even Fox is reporting,
8:30 that crude oil is getting out,
8:32 there is nothing that is working at this point then.
8:35 The blockade is smoke and mirrors at this point.
8:40 And I'm not sure what they're going to be able to walk away with and say, "Oh,
8:47 this was worth our time, American lives, and the money." You know,
8:51 Pete Hoekstra testified that we've only spent 25 billion.
8:54 Estimates are, in reality,
8:56 over 80 billion dollars have been spent
8:58 because he wasn't even discussing the amount
9:00 that we put into repairing American military
9:04 equipment that the Iranians have blown up.
9:07 I mean, they have done enormous damage.
9:09 And the interesting um the last thing I
9:11 want to say about this, it looks like J.D.
9:13 Vance or J.D.
9:14 Vance's team recognizes how bad this is, and they've started leaking.
9:18 And they leaked to The Atlantic that J.D.
9:20 Vance is concerned about our munitions supply,
9:23 which is something that I was not hounded off the set
9:26 of The Five cuz I still sat there for the rest of the show,
9:29 but they were jumping all over me when I said that we
9:32 don't have enough weapons anymore that if China invaded Taiwan tomorrow,
9:36 we couldn't defend them.
9:38 And everyone was like, "What are you talking about?
9:39 How could If there's anything we've had, you know,
9:41 we have enough missiles." Well, I don't know.
9:44 J.D.
9:44 Vance doesn't think that we have enough munitions to be able to finish this job,
9:48 let alone to do all of the other
9:49 work that's important for keeping authoritarians in check.
9:53 Um so, I you know, 2028 on his mind, I guess.
9:57 But uh you know, if J.D.
9:58 Vance is back-channeling to the Atlantic, uh you know something is wrong.
10:03 That's That's wild.
10:04 And then the The thing that I'm curious to hear your thoughts here.
10:07 The thing I thought the most underreported story of the week
10:10 was the UAE deciding to exit the OPEC cartel.
10:13 That is really That is a breakdown in the cartel.
10:15 It's That's the cartel coming apart.
10:17 And I think what they've I think
10:19 what they've decided is at these elevated prices,
10:22 we don't want a Saudi-dominated cartel telling us not to sell everything we can.
10:26 And in addition, because the UAE has been the recipient
10:30 of the most inbound projectiles of any nation in the Gulf,
10:33 including Israel from Iran, they're like,
10:36 "We need the money." They're now going to the US and saying,
10:40 "We might need a financial bailout if
10:41 this keeps going." And they're like, "No, we're out.
10:44 We're not going to have what has been the kingdom's dominance
10:48 of this setting production levels and what you can sell." Like,
10:51 "Sorry, we need the money and we're out." That is a really big deal.
10:56 I like the fact I hate cartels, I hate monopolies.
10:59 That should, over the medium and long term, bring down prices.
11:02 But that is a real fracture in the Gulf states,
11:06 because their economic agreement on OPEC OPEC is,
11:09 arguably speaking, the most powerful cartel in history.
11:12 Maybe with the exception of you could argue
11:13 that maybe um certain trade agreements or NAFTA,
11:17 but I don't think anything comes close to you politically to OPEC.
11:20 And them leaving because of this conflict is I mean,
11:24 quite frankly, it's again, as I see it, it's probably another win for the IRGC,
11:29 who is trying to atomize the rest of the Gulf,
11:32 destabilize it because of America's actions.
11:35 Any thought on the UAE leaving OPEC?
11:37 Well, I was surprised to see it.
11:38 I mean, this isn't my predominant wheelhouse necessarily.
11:42 Um, but it seemed to be shocking everybody that was reporting
11:46 on it and people who spend lots of time focused on this.
11:49 And I immediately went to what you just mentioned
11:53 about uh the UAE sniffing around for a bailout,
11:57 um which would totally defeat the purpose of having done all of this.
12:01 And I was thinking about it in terms
12:03 of the legacy of Trump in the Middle East, right?
12:06 I mean, he always goes back to and and rightly so,
12:10 you know, how meaningful the Abraham Accords were.
12:12 There's hopes for a second round of Abraham Accords.
12:15 And I mean, I doubt that Saudi is
12:18 going to want to play nice with anybody, frankly,
12:21 in the region after this or trust us as a partner in the same
12:26 way as we're calling we're causing an enormous financial hit um to them.
12:31 So, if there were back channels the administration about
12:34 how happy they were that we were going after Iran,
12:37 I don't know if those calls are are being made
12:40 with the same level of fervor as they were before.
12:43 And it's a major I don't want to say destabilizing necessarily,
12:46 but an a major change at least for the region.
12:52 Mhm.
12:51 Okay, let's take a quick break.
12:53 Stay with us.
12:57 Welcome back.
12:58 So, moving on in what was likely Jerome
13:00 Powell's final meeting as chair of the Federal Reserve,
13:02 the governing body announced it would keep its key
13:04 interest rate steady in the 3.5% to 3.75% range.
13:09 The decision was a dramatic 8-4 split among members.
13:12 That usually doesn't happen.
13:13 That's that was unusual.
13:14 Powell used his closing remarks to warn that legal actions
13:18 by the administration risk undermining the Fed's uh political independence.
13:21 Let's listen.
13:22 You know, my my concern is really about the series of legal attacks on the Fed,
13:27 which threaten our ability to conduct
13:29 monetary policy without considering political factors.
13:32 And I I want to note here,
13:33 this has nothing whatever to do with verbal criticism by elected officials.
13:38 Uh I I've never suggested that such verbal criticism
13:41 is a problem and neither has anyone else here.
13:43 But these legal actions by the administration
13:46 are unprecedented in our 113-year history,
13:49 and there are ongoing threats uh of additional such actions.
13:52 That piece of institutional architecture
13:55 separates successful countries from unsuccessful countries.
13:58 It is extremely important,
13:59 not for the people who work at the Fed at any given time,
14:02 but for the people that we serve,
14:04 that the Fed remain able to conduct monetary policy
14:06 in a way that doesn't get pulled into politics.
14:10 I mean, is Jerome Powell the leader of the resistance?
14:13 I He's just always so classy and stand up,
14:17 and I love I thought Scott Bessent was on with Larry
14:20 Kudlow and talking about how Jerome Powell has smashed our norms.
14:26 Like, buddy, do you know who you work for?
14:28 The guy who brought a lawsuit against Jerome Powell.
14:31 And what's really interesting,
14:32 so they dropped the suit against Powell so that Kevin
14:35 Warsh could get through because Tom Tillis was holding it up.
14:39 Right.
14:40 And Trump made an offhanded comment.
14:41 He's like, "No, we didn't drop the lawsuit." So,
14:43 I have no idea what happens now, right?
14:45 Like, maybe he's so pissed that Powell's going to hang
14:47 around that he's going to start this up again.
14:50 But, it sends a very good message that even when it
14:53 feels bleak and powerless against the behemoth of the federal government,
14:59 which has been weaponized in totality against average Americans,
15:03 against institutions,
15:05 against good policy, that there are ways to stand up.
15:08 And I just think Jerome Powell is remarkably brave that he would do
15:13 that in the press conference and just call the balls and strikes of it.
15:16 Say, "Of course, you can verbally criticize me and the Fed.
15:20 We have a First Amendment right to do that.
15:22 But you can't bring frivolous lawsuits and think that I'm just going to retire
15:28 to wherever it is that he enjoys spending his summers and get out of your way.
15:33 This institution matters and I'm going to protect it for as long as I'm able to.
15:41 Yeah, the I think what the media got wrong here is they reported that there
15:45 was an 8 to 4 that four people dissented from the decision to keep rate steady.
15:51 And it's misleading cuz my understanding is three
15:53 of the four dissenters didn't agree with the notion
15:56 that they would signal that they were looking
15:58 to cut rates at some point later in the year.
16:01 So this was actually
16:02 Oh, so it's even worse.
16:04 Yeah, this was actually the governor saying, "No,
16:07 we you know and then immediately Kashkari responded
16:10 and said the likelihood of a rate increase has
16:13 gone up because essentially what the governors are saying
16:16 is there's no evidence that we should cut rates.
16:19 Also, I think Warsh has lost a lot of credibility.
16:21 One, when he said in his confirmation hearing he
16:24 refused to acknowledge that Biden had been elected only
16:28 that he'd been sworn in and that he might
16:31 in fact be politicized and be looking to cut rates.
16:35 But it looks as if the governors are saying, "No,
16:38 this the information here it does not lend itself to a rate cut,
16:41 especially with oil and inflation where it is.
16:44 This is in Powell's right.
16:46 Powell is, you know,
16:47 threads needle between being forceful yet dignified and he does he does
16:54 give everyone hope and I thought what he said was really eloquent.
16:58 Do you like Kevin Warsh?
17:00 I think he's a substantive guy.
17:01 I've got to be honest,
17:02 I was just incredibly disappointed that the key component of the Fed is, okay,
17:08 obviously you want them to get it right,
17:09 but more than anything you want them to get
17:12 it right or wrong in isolation of political influence.
17:15 And when he refused to say that Biden had been elected and would just say,
17:20 "Well, he was duly sworn in." Yeah.
17:23 It's like, okay.
17:24 And not only that, I think he I think
17:26 at that moment he would have been approved anyways.
17:28 He might have pissed off his boss, the guy who appointed him,
17:31 but it's a 12-year appointment and I think at this point he's in.
17:34 No Republican was going to say, "I'm not voting for him because he
17:37 acknowledged that Trump was actually fairly elected." Yeah.
17:40 The key component of the Fed chairman a close
17:44 second to IQ is a fidelity to independence.
17:47 And right there he said, "No, I've been weaponized." Now,
17:51 fortunately, there is a wisdom of the crowds on the governors.
17:54 These are I've known people who have been Fed governors and they're very smart.
17:58 And they're typically pretty large ego individuals who
18:01 are not going to be intimidated by anybody.
18:03 So, I I think it's an actually a really
18:06 outstanding body that does a lot of great work.
18:08 Unfortunately, they're not getting as much good data
18:11 as they used to when you you know,
18:12 when you do away with the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.
18:15 They're armed with less information to make good decisions.
18:19 But my estimation of him has gone down dramatically.
18:22 I was relieved that he was going to he appointed someone serious.
18:24 He is a serious person who's well qualified.
18:27 But when he got up there and said, "Yeah,
18:29 I'm I'm Trump's too." I mean, it was just sort of really disappointing.
18:34 And the political calculus was off.
18:36 He could have I think if he'd said yes, he was he was elected.
18:39 I don't think Trump was going to weigh in and pull his nominee.
18:42 I I just don't get it.
18:44 I was very disappointed at that.
18:47 Yeah.
18:47 Your thoughts?
18:47 There was this uh hot mic moment of uh Chuck Grassley.
18:52 So, uh you can hear Grassley, his mic's still on and he's 92.
18:55 This happens.
18:56 And he says to a staffer,
18:57 "What would the big deal be if he said that Biden won 2020?" Yeah, what?
19:03 What's the downside?
19:05 What would be wrong with saying I am uh amazed.
19:12 And really appalled that And Blumenthal kind of pauses a little to like let
19:17 people hear this because that's what a normal human being thinks.
19:21 Like, we're so far past this.
19:23 Trump came back and had an incredible victory.
19:27 It was still like the third smallest in modern history or whatever,
19:30 but it was a big deal that he won again and he swung all these voters.
19:33 And like who cares at this point?
19:36 It's And you know a Democrat is going to ask you every single hearing.
19:40 Someone's going to say who won the 2020 election?
19:43 Was it a free and fair election?
19:45 It's just anyway.
19:46 Uh agreed.
19:47 So, moving on, the Florida House of Representatives have approved a new map
19:50 of the state that could turn four
19:51 congressional seats over to Republicans this year.
19:54 The approval came just after the Supreme Court announced a decision
19:57 to limit a key provision of the Voting Rights Act impacting a redrawn
20:01 map of Louisiana that had served as the impetus for Florida Governor
20:04 Ron DeSantis to seek out a new map for his own state.
20:07 Just what does this mean for the larger battle that seems
20:11 to have broken out around gerrymandering every state for additional seats?
20:17 Yeah, that's really the main story,
20:20 especially when it comes to the Supreme Court ruling yesterday um on the Voting
20:25 Rights Act when it wasn't a you know fully striking down section two,
20:29 but chipping away at at it.
20:31 The net impact for the midterms is going to be pretty minimal.
20:34 It could It could honestly even be like zero or one seats.
20:37 I think the maximum that anyone who knows
20:39 what they're talking about has said is four seats.
20:42 If southern states uh get really aggressive about it, uh Jeff Landry,
20:46 the governor of Louisiana, is trying to suspend the election,
20:49 I think it was, but ballots have already
20:50 gone out and they're running up against schedules,
20:54 which are happening very quickly.
20:55 And if ballots already out, um or you know folks who live abroad,
20:59 mil- people who serve in our military,
21:01 then you can't be changing the rules and redistricting.
21:04 This is really more of an issue for 2028 and beyond
21:07 and it's going to push liberal
21:11 and conservative states to essentially go nuclear.
21:14 And a Democratic representative Terri Sewell said,
21:19 you know, okay, so California, 52 seats.
21:23 Illinois, 17 seats.
21:24 Kathy Hochul has already posted that, you know,
21:28 she's heard the call and that if you have
21:30 to redistrict New York so that it's all blue,
21:34 even though we have, you know, Republican seats here,
21:38 then that's what you've got to do because that's
21:40 the level of warfare that we're engaged in at this point.
21:43 And, you know, this is something
21:45 that is deeply unpopular with Americans, gerrymandering.
21:49 They they don't like it.
21:50 That's why you had independent commissions,
21:52 bipartisan commissions all over the country that were supposed
21:55 to draw these maps and no one likes to see,
21:58 you know, the shapes of some of these districts are just ridiculous, right?
22:02 But I think it's going to get very ugly and very political.
22:06 But relieved that it is not as much of a problem
22:10 for 2026 as some people were saying yesterday when the ruling came down.
22:17 Yeah, it this feels like a job for AI.
22:20 Here Here are the Here's the number of people.
22:23 Here's the lay of the map.
22:26 We want something that represents best represents
22:28 people and please draw our districts for us.
22:31 It's gotten It has gotten out of control and it's worth mentioning
22:34 that Democrats have proposed to de-gerrymander
22:38 and Republicans have blocked it every time.
22:41 Nationwide ban.
22:42 Yeah, so it feels like this would be kind of if
22:46 there is a change in leadership and Congress and the White House,
22:50 it feels like this could be a pretty good thing
22:53 to not run on, but immediately to say we need to de-gerrymander.
22:57 Bipartisan commission.
22:59 Here it comes, folks.
23:00 And of course Congress and Senate will hate it,
23:02 but it feels like that would have a lot of public
23:04 support and be very be very hard to defend not supporting it.
23:10 It goes in the bucket.
23:11 I don't know if you saw it.
23:12 Jon Ossoff released this incredible It's not an ad cuz it's over 4 minutes.
23:16 This video yesterday about who's really taking advantage of Americans
23:21 and keeping you down and it's targeted at the pharmaceutical companies.
23:26 Mhm.
23:25 Incredibly well done and it's talking about
23:27 the part that he played in getting reforms so
23:29 that we could negotiate drug prices through Medicare
23:31 Part D and cap costs at $2,000 per senior.
23:36 And so that's great for Jon Ossoff who's running, you know,
23:38 he's in a tough race as a swing state Democratic senator,
23:43 but this is an issue that goes up there with corruption.
23:51 Mhm.
23:50 We have an oligarch class here and there are no
23:53 guardrails to stop them from just continuing to fill their coffers.
23:59 And I think that the argument
24:01 about gerrymandering falls into that category, too.
24:04 That there are, you know,
24:05 a select few people that are making decisions as to whether
24:08 your vote really counts and what kind of representation you should have.
24:13 And maybe this gets so bad and Democrats go so
24:18 nuclear on this that Republicans will support the nationwide ban.
24:22 But, you know, AOC said you we've got to be
24:25 as maniacal as possible until we get our ban.
24:29 And I think you're right,
24:30 it should be adopted into people's platforms as they look
24:32 towards 2028 for sure that they're going to fix this.
24:36 No one likes it.
24:38 Yeah, we have a tendency to focus on the outputs instead
24:40 of the atmospherics or the structural changes we need to make.
24:43 And it's the boring stuff that moves the needle.
24:45 And I think we're going to end up with extremists on both sides
24:49 in a dysfunctional system until we do both
24:53 de-gerrymander and also get rid of Citizens United.
24:56 I increasingly believe that the 900 billionaires
24:58 that are responsible for 20% of all PAC giving,
25:02 it's actually probably 300 of them.
25:03 I bet 2/3 aren't interested in giving money.
25:05 What people don't realize though is I think it's over 50,
25:08 60% of total influence because if you're a union PAC,
25:11 you just give money to the union guy.
25:13 Whereas if you're a billionaire,
25:14 you can be very targeted and surgical about the money you give.
25:18 And these people have totally disassociated from common Americans.
25:22 They don't use the airports, the police,
25:24 the school system, the healthcare system.
25:27 So the the people swaying our elections no longer
25:30 have a vested interest in the well-being of Americans.
25:34 And that's why I think you see the monetization of healthcare, of technology,
25:38 of education because the people who have a disproportionate amount
25:41 of influence don't really have an invested interest in in America.
25:45 I was studying with my son last night about the rail system in Chongqing, China.
25:50 And it's such a marvel of creativity, infrastructure, long-term thinking.
25:55 And I'm like, "We don't think that way anymore." Because at the end of the day,
25:59 an investment in infrastructure is an investment in the middle class.
26:02 And it costs money and it requires long-term
26:04 thinking and nobody gets really rich off of it.
26:07 What it does is it shaves 3, 5, 10 minutes off of everyone's day and gives
26:11 it back to middle class people to spend
26:13 time with their families or make a little
26:14 bit more money or be a little bit healthier, a little less stressed.
26:18 And the reality is the people that get to decide,
26:19 make these decisions aren't really interested in that because they've they've
26:23 got their own way to get to work to and from work.
26:25 But anyways, let's move on.
26:27 Speaking of elections, Maine Governor Janet Mills announced today that she'll
26:31 drop out of the Senate election in Maine.
26:33 I was curious to hear your thoughts here.
26:35 Leaving the midterm race,
26:36 a face-off between incumbent Republican Senator Susan Collins
26:40 and Marine Corps veteran and Democrat Graham Plaster.
26:43 Jess, your thoughts?
26:44 Uh it's a really big deal.
26:46 Uh this was, you know, one of the ground zeros for the kind of battle
26:50 between the old guard and the new progressive left.
26:54 Janet Mills didn't want to run.
26:56 Chuck Schumer recruited her and Kirsten Gillibrand,
26:59 a lot of pressure for her to do this.
27:00 She's 78 years old, I think.
27:02 She's already pledged to serve one term.
27:05 But basically no one else wanted to do it
27:07 from the kind of more moderate or center-left wing of the party.
27:12 And it will be a big test for Graham Platner's kind of politics.
27:17 Obviously, he's had a lot of, you know,
27:18 scandals with the Nazi tattoo and past comments.
27:24 You know, but he has clearly done a good enough job, you know,
27:27 vis-a-vis the people of Maine or the Democratic
27:29 primary voters to explain himself and his evolution.
27:35 And I was glad to see that Schumer and Gillibrand released a statement saying
27:39 that they're going to be backing the nominee
27:41 because we need to defeat Susan Collins here.
27:44 But Janet Mills cited and, you know,
27:45 she's been losing in the polls by like 30 points for quite a while.
27:49 I can't raise money.
27:51 And I spoke to a DC fundraiser who told me the same thing about
27:55 it that they could not get people to come to a Janet Mills fundraiser.
27:58 And candidates are pulling in tons of money.
28:02 Like they're pulling in Q3 money in Q1.
28:05 Like James Tallarico, Jon Ossoff, Sherrod Brown, Mary Peltola in Alaska.
28:11 And Iowa, Rob Sand for instance who's running for governor.
28:15 You watch his ads, you don't even know if he's a Democrat or Republican.
28:17 He's a complete marvel.
28:20 And Janet Mills couldn't get people to give her five bucks,
28:23 let alone big donors that, you know, you could bundle their money.
28:27 So, big test for the big tent, I guess, going forward.
28:32 But I'm excited to see how it plays out
28:34 and I think it's good that she dropped out,
28:36 frankly, versus going into an ugly primary.
28:39 People going out and voting,
28:40 her getting trounced gives us time to coalesce around the nominee.
28:45 Yeah, there's few senators I would enjoy seeing
28:48 get kicked out of office more than Senator Collins.
28:50 I think she's such an unproductive narcissist.
28:54 I'm so sick of her supposedly really struggling with you know,
28:59 whether or not she should approve Very concerned, right?
29:02 Always concerned.
29:04 Yeah, I really Yeah, he said these incredibly sexist Oh, he's against abortion.
29:11 I'm just so concerned.
29:12 I will do whatever the Trump asked me to do.
29:15 She just loves the attention of pretending to be concerned and thinking through.
29:20 And Senator Collins, we know exactly how you're going to vote.
29:23 So, stop It's just performative.
29:25 It's so performative.
29:26 Yeah, I mean, it is an advantage in the Trump era that, you know,
29:29 she can call him up.
29:30 Like they were going to send ICE to Maine and she called and said,
29:33 "Could you not do that?" And then they didn't.
29:35 So, that that is a bonus for Mainers,
29:39 but in reality, they're economically suffering.
29:42 They want something new and Grand Plastering of anything is something new.
29:47 It's something new.
29:49 Mhm.
29:49 Let's end on a lighter note.
29:50 President Trump is now putting his face on US passports.
29:53 Let's watch what AOC had to say about it.
29:56 What do you make of Donald Trump putting
29:57 his face on all these on the new US passports?
30:01 It's like it's giving Monopoly money.
30:04 It's like you know, I think he's jealous that you know,
30:10 Mount Rushmore got a page.
30:11 You got four presidents in there and he's probably saying,
30:15 "Why don't I get a passport page?" And I think um I think it's
30:19 also like all these lower level people
30:20 competing for his love and attention as well.
30:25 I was in a complete state of panic because my older
30:27 daughter needs to renew her passport and I was like,
30:30 "There is no effing way that we're going
30:31 to have a Donald Trump passport." But it's
30:33 only for people who go in person in DC and for a select amount of time.
30:38 So, if you're listening to this and you're worried about it,
30:40 you don't have to have a Donald Trump passport,
30:43 but apparently he now thinks he's above even just like great
30:46 American presidents like George Washington and Lincoln had nothing on him.
30:50 He's like most powerful people that ever lived like Napoleon,
30:54 Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar.
30:57 Guy, I mean, I don't know if he's just
31:00 messing with people and having these kind of diluted thoughts,
31:03 or it's really what he thinks,
31:05 but I would err towards this guy who hasn't gotten,
31:09 you know, much pushback, let's say.
31:11 There's no reason to think that he doesn't
31:14 think that he's a little bit Alexander the Great.
31:18 Yeah, it reminds me in some Gulf
31:19 states and some developing nations where you see the the leader who is not was
31:24 not really democratically elected has their picture everywhere.
31:28 And I think a decent talking point for a Democrat running would be,
31:32 "I'm the bleach to this stain,
31:34 and I promise within 90 days of being elected to the White House,
31:37 I'm going to sign an executive order to remove his image from everything,
31:42 remove his name from everything, and also I promise to never use his name.
31:46 I will reference the previous administration,
31:48 but I'm going to give you visual presence
31:51 or visual relief and more time back with your family.
31:54 He's the stain, I'm the bleach." I'm in.
31:59 Let's leave it there.
32:00 Thanks, Jess.
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