Update! Erika Did Not Go Home. Source Confirms AI Voice Tactics. | Candace Ep 336

0:01 All right, you guys, happy Monday update for you.

0:04 Erica Kirk did not in fact go home.

0:08 I just have to say, no one bounces back faster from shootings than Erica Kirk.

0:13 She really is remarkable in that way.

0:15 Uh this time, after saying she wanted to go home,

0:17 us enduring a lecture about how she needed to go home to her family,

0:22 she bounced over to to Michigan to address

0:25 the graduating class of Hillsdale College in a commencement speech.

0:28 It's just It's all over the place, the messaging, right?

0:31 She's too scared to get on a plane by herself.

0:33 Secret Service can't protect her.

0:34 Oh, now she doesn't have Secret Service,

0:36 and she's back on stage at a school, nonetheless.

0:39 I don't know what to think, guys.

0:41 What you should know is she was awarded an an honor honorary doctorate.

0:47 The internet has a lot to say about that.

0:49 Also, we got to discuss this Charlie GPT thing that we have been hinting

0:55 at, because it's looking like um there may be more legs to the story,

0:59 thanks to a source which came forward.

1:01 You know that infamous recording of Charlie saying,

1:04 "I appoint Erica Kirk." We're going to discuss that.

1:06 And lastly, Nick Shirley, do you remember him?

1:08 We mentioned him one time on this show.

1:11 Well, he went on to uh Patrick Bet-David's show and said that I came for him.

1:17 It's feeling a little over-the-top dramatic,

1:18 but I'd like to actually address what his general

1:21 presence in the media space signifies more broadly speaking,

1:26 because it is important.

1:27 Welcome back to Candace.

1:44 First and foremost, happy belated Mother's Day to all of the mothers out there.

1:48 I hope you enjoyed special treatment.

1:51 I know Andrew Colvett had a bit of a day.

1:53 Bizarre trend over on X.

1:55 Uh so, it looks like Project Constitution reported that Andrew

1:59 Kolb was getting a divorce and it was just not true.

2:03 The basis of the report was not true.

2:06 But, boy oh boy did all of Turning

2:08 Point USA rise up to defend Andrew Kolb's honor.

2:13 I mean, Andrew himself hit back hard immediately.

2:17 He basically turned into Will Smith at the Oscars.

2:20 He wrote this.

2:21 LOL, you wish, fat boy.

2:24 And that he says, keep my wife's name out of your mouth and off

2:28 your feed and you'll have more prob-

2:31 or you'll have more problems than you bargained for.

2:33 To everyone else, happy Mother's Day.

2:36 And yeah, we can pull that clip in cuz

2:37 it was definitely giving that energy of Will Smith.

2:39 If you want to play that clip.

2:42 KEEP MY WIFE'S NAME OUT YOUR MOUTH.

2:48 YEAH, THAT WAS THAT WAS THE ENERGY OF THAT.

2:50 And then, it wasn't it couldn't it wasn't left there.

2:52 Tyler Boyer then jumped in into the foray

2:56 to further defend Andrew's honor over a divorce rumor.

2:59 I'm like, this is just like I wake up

3:01 and there are rumors about me getting a divorce.

3:03 But, Tyler Boyer said, we have had numerous things like this said about us.

3:07 It is reckless disregard for truth

3:09 from people who call themselves investigators.

3:11 Okay, uh never one to be left behind, Blake Neff jumped in.

3:17 He wrote back to Project Constitution, you are not very smart, are you?

3:22 And then, when somebody asked a question about why

3:26 Andrew's wife was not at the White House Correspondents Dinner,

3:29 Blake Neff insisted he he wrote back.

3:32 Again, this is just all Um Blake Neff wrote,

3:35 instead of posting deranged rumor-mongering at 7:00 a.m.

3:38 on a Sunday morning,

3:38 have you considered that you could look this up or use your brain?

3:41 White House Correspondents Dinners are all held by press outlets.

3:44 Everyone else is there by invitation.

3:47 How did you even know he was offered a plus one?

3:49 Andrew lives in Phoenix and has three children.

3:51 How do you know his wife would want to fly

3:54 five hours across the country to attend one dinner?

3:58 Okay, so strong.

3:59 I I by the way have never heard that Andrew Kolbe is divorcing his wife.

4:03 Uh like I said, bit of an aggressive response for a divorce rumor,

4:07 which I I literally think this happens like

4:09 once a week when you're in the public space.

4:11 Me, regarding that, I'm just forever amazed at what

4:14 Turning Point USA and their execs choose to respond to.

4:19 And the more important things that they remain mum on, okay?

4:25 Like I said, apparently it was Project Constitution who sourced this rumor.

4:28 And they were happy to respond to it, which means that they do not view

4:32 him as a psychopathic knife-wielding subway killer.

4:36 So they responded, right?

4:38 Because it has been, according to our count,

4:40 and I now have I'm keeping the count here on our desk,

4:43 39 long days since we reported that donors who were present in Aspen

4:51 assert that the audio which was shared by Turning Point USA of Charlie saying,

4:56 "I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA if something happens to me,

5:01 she'll do a great job." was faked.

5:04 This is what they are saying.

5:05 I'm reporting that.

5:06 They They are saying that that was faked.

5:08 It never happened.

5:08 Charlie never said that.

5:09 And Turning Point for some reason is refusing to drop

5:13 the video of that moment saying this of Charlie saying this.

5:16 They're also refusing to even respond authoritatively.

5:20 They could simply respond and assert that it absolutely

5:23 was not faked and that the donors are lying.

5:25 Their donors are lying.

5:26 Big donors are lying.

5:28 That feels a little bit suspicious to me.

5:30 In fact, Blake has specifically expressed concern, you will recall,

5:35 that if they do drop it, people will say it's AI.

5:38 Wow, that's an oddly specific concern that you have about dropping this video.

5:46 And I got to tell you, the more I listen to it, the more AI it sounds to me.

5:51 Take a listen.

5:53 A lot of organizations and groups,

5:54 as soon as a founder leaves, it just kind of collapses.

5:57 A lot of my job is not always in the day-to-day details.

6:01 It's very much vision casting, very much driving success.

6:06 But we have a great board,

6:06 and God forbid if something happens, they'll figure it out.

6:08 I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA if something happens to me.

6:11 Erica would do a great job.

6:13 I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA if something happens to me.

6:15 Erica would do a great job.

6:17 I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA if something happens to me.

6:19 Erica would do a great job.

6:23 It just doesn't flow when you hear it.

6:25 It It's also remarkably formal.

6:29 I appoint my wife if anything should happen to me.

6:31 It's like exactly the sentence that he needed to say he said.

6:34 Not just like, "Oh, Erica can do it.

6:36 Yeah, I mean, she'd be great at that.

6:38 Whatever." Hopefully,

6:39 we won't have to think about that question until down the line,

6:42 but it I appoint my wife to run Turning

6:44 Point USA in the event that anything happens to me.

6:46 We would like a response on this.

6:49 Are the donors lying?

6:51 It's a possibility that for some reason

6:53 the donors are conspiring to lie about this moment.

6:55 A simple yes or no would do as a starting place, right?

6:59 I I think that would do just as a starting place.

7:01 Yes, they are lying.

7:02 No, they are not lying.

7:03 And the video, which I would like to point out,

7:07 Turning Point USA mentioned this video to us.

7:09 Erica herself told Megyn Kelly an emotional story about what

7:14 she felt like watching that video for the first time,

7:16 the video of Charlie choosing her, violating suddenly his every public statement

7:23 and sentiment that he had ever expressed in the past about women working,

7:28 complete 180 from his prior positions.

7:32 Please just drop the video.

7:33 It's all we ask, and we're asking politely, by the way.

7:36 And now we've learned even more interesting information because it turns out we

7:40 can now definitively state that Turning Point

7:42 does use AI voices for their presentations.

7:47 You will recall, in Aspen, Charlie was presenting to donors,

7:51 and it turns out that Marcus Wada, we introduced you this guy,

7:55 this is this is the Turning Point

7:56 employee that's a rehabilitated former arms dealer.

8:01 Okay, a former arms dealer who now works for Turning Point.

8:04 This is a thing, a lot of them become pastors.

8:07 They find God and they find Turning Point like at almost the same time.

8:11 And Marcus Wada, one of the things that he offers is that he

8:16 is able to create these AI voices for them to use for their presentations.

8:20 So, AI technology is what they currently

8:24 use to voice over their Turning Point presentations,

8:27 and typically, I am told they use the voice of Pastor John Amanchukwu.

8:33 So, if you're at a Turning Point event and you're

8:35 hearing a presentation and you hear a guy speaking over,

8:37 you're actually hearing Pastor John is not actually recording that.

8:41 They're manipulating his voice, I'm sure with his permission,

8:45 to speak over in the presentations.

8:46 They're They basically take someone's voice and turn it into a narrator.

8:50 And that is, by the way, unique.

8:52 So, it is an entirely reasonable question to ask,

8:57 was the same thing done for Charlie posthumously?

9:01 And I want to tell you the reason why we are going to continue

9:03 to ask this question and why I'm keeping this on our our desk now,

9:07 is because it's crucial.

9:09 It's actually a crucial question.

9:11 I'm starting to already see the creep of people who

9:13 are trying to downplay the significance of that moment, right?

9:17 People pivoting to, well, even if it is AI, why does it matter?

9:22 I saw this This is just one example of it, but John Mappin,

9:25 who is the person who introduced Charlie to actually his biggest donor.

9:31 Charlie's biggest donor was introduced to him by John Mappin.

9:33 A donor so big that that donor was first in line on a list

9:37 of donors who received personal phone calls

9:39 from the hospital the day that Charlie died.

9:42 And John Mappin was similarly told, he shared this on X,

9:46 that a donor who was at that Aspen event said it never happened.

9:50 Okay?

9:51 It never happened.

9:52 So, this is going around.

9:54 And when John Mappin shared that information,

9:56 he was met with the response from Kimberly Klacik.

9:58 She wrote this, "Question,

10:00 if the board elected Erika Kirk to be the CEO and none

10:04 of the donors have come forward questioning the decision, why does it matter?

10:08 The donors that contacted you are more

10:11 than capable of contacting Blake." She continued, "Okay, so I can answer that.

10:15 I can answer why it matters.

10:18 It matters because if it was in fact an AI audio and Erika was

10:25 referring to an AI video clip which they in the end decided not to use,

10:31 uh this would tell us exactly who and what Erika Kirk is, okay?

10:35 It would put to rest any lingering questions that some

10:39 people may have in the background if we are able

10:41 to determine that she colluded to create a fake AI

10:45 voice of her husband announcing her to take over his company.

10:52 If she was even emotionally capable of this a mere

10:55 weeks after he was horrifically and publicly murdered.

10:59 If she was capable of then sitting across from Megan Kelly and spinning

11:03 a tale about her having seen this video

11:06 and what it represented to her emotionally,

11:09 uh a video which was never recorded because it never

11:12 occurred to justify her taking over the company that he built.

11:17 And if Erika was then able to shamelessly walk out to the sound

11:23 of a voice of her husband which she knew was doctored by AI, right?

11:29 Pa- passing the torch to her, "The company

11:31 is mine at Amfest while she wore glittering pants,

11:35 glittering pant plant pantsuit and had fireworks going on behind her.

11:39 She knew this was all AI and they

11:40 planned this moment to make people feel emotional.

11:45 Then we would have our answer.

11:47 Erica would be a confirmed ruthless psychopath.

11:52 Okay?

11:52 You know that psychopath brandishing a weapon that Blake's concerned about,

11:56 that would be Erica.

11:57 Erica would be the kind of person that if you see on a subway, you should move.

12:00 If you're capable of that, because that would mean

12:02 she was void of any and all human emotion.

12:04 Capable of I am being clear,

12:06 I am not being dramatic if this turns out to be real.

12:09 I would assert that she is capable of real harm.

12:13 She is dangerous and I would extend that to every

12:17 person around her who approved that monstrous plan.

12:21 So that would be Blake Naff, Andrew Colvett.

12:23 We would be looking at a psychological profile of people

12:27 that I would suggest are very much capable of cold-blooded murder.

12:32 Okay?

12:32 In my opinion.

12:33 That this is my opinion.

12:35 I am asserting that if you have the ability to do that, that's not just like,

12:39 oh, husband died and wanted to sign some papers and steal the will.

12:42 It's like, how can we sell this to the public?

12:44 We can create this AI video.

12:45 You need to go out and sell this to Megan Kelly.

12:48 Say say you saw the video, that it you know,

12:50 you were pulled by it and then you're going

12:51 to go out and we're going to have Charlie say it,

12:53 but we can't show the video cuz the AI tech is not at the right place yet.

12:57 So it's a little glitchy.

12:58 So we can't show the video, but like as long as people hear his voice,

13:01 they're going to be moved to tears.

13:02 Then we're going to bring out Nicki Minaj

13:03 and this is going to be your moment, baby.

13:05 So make sure you have all that glitter and sparkles.

13:07 If she was able to do that, truly take

13:13 a second here to just just consider that in your mind.

13:17 If we find that out, confirm this is AI.

13:21 What does that signify about Erica?

13:23 It signifies that she had that meeting,

13:25 that it took place and she was able to stomach it.

13:28 She was able to stomach hearing her husband's

13:30 voice intentionally manipulated after he was ruthlessly murdered.

13:33 And she thought, "Okay, he's dead.

13:35 What can he do for me?" Uh we can use his voice to have him

13:38 hand over the company so people will not blink and they will not ask questions.

13:42 There was no reason to do it.

13:43 Like I said, that's what's even scarier.

13:45 The only purpose was because she wanted

13:47 people to accept her moving into his position.

13:53 And it's becoming increasingly likely that that is the circumstance.

13:56 Um it like I said would be beyond anything we've ever seen,

13:59 a real-life horror movie if it proves uh to be true.

14:03 And I have to say, I do not believe

14:06 there is any upside to the donors lying to me.

14:11 I don't see the upside.

14:13 They loved Charlie.

14:14 They went there.

14:15 They gave it their money to Charlie.

14:16 They don't need to be a part of this story.

14:19 What is the upside for donors to come forward and to say,

14:22 "Candace, keep pressing.

14:24 This did not happen and I am certain it did not happen and it is terrifying

14:27 me that you're saying that they're out there

14:31 uh telling people that this happened in Aspen." So,

14:35 you take your chance You you you guys can take your bets on whether you believe

14:38 Blake Neff and his uh Subway killer scenario

14:41 as the reason they won't release the video.

14:43 Anyway, moving on from that, a fun update.

14:45 Um Erika Kirk is maybe she's now Dr.

14:48 Erika Kirk.

14:49 I I I know she said that she wanted to go home.

14:53 She says a lot of stuff.

14:54 She says a lot of stuff.

14:55 She's in drapes.

14:56 Nobody knows why.

14:58 Uh she told us that she was going to take some time to be with her family.

15:01 Then she came in dressed like Janet Jackson.

15:03 She yelled at me.

15:04 She yelled at Drewski.

15:05 She yelled at you for the fact that she had

15:06 to go confront the wine bottles that were on the table.

15:10 And then like I'm taking a break,

15:11 but then actually now she's not taking a break again.

15:14 It's a quick break and she's back.

15:17 She's always back very quickly and we're probably we're to get yelled at again

15:20 that she had to even go get the speech done uh for Hillsdale College.

15:25 Somehow it's it's always different.

15:26 Erica can do whatever she wants and we're

15:28 just sort of left here holding the bag.

15:30 She went to Michigan to Hillsdale College to deliver a commencement address.

15:35 Okay, it's her prerogative.

15:36 I think we're all adjusted to this new program

15:39 of Erica can do whatever she wants and simultaneously

15:42 she accepted a posthumous doctorate degree for Charlie uh

15:46 honorary doctorate and also an honorary doctorate for herself.

15:51 And I want to be clear that people that are

15:53 on the left and have been enduring people on the right

15:57 saying D E I D E I people should not be hired on the basis of how they look.

16:02 They should not receive achievements.

16:04 It's a regular beat and I do believe that by the way.

16:07 I'm I am a full I'm anti-DEI as well.

16:10 Um but they're on the internet and they have something to say about it.

16:13 The internet is saying this is fans against everything that you guys preached.

16:18 Why is she getting an honorary doctorate?

16:20 What has she accomplished?

16:21 And I'll let you I'm just going to read one of these tweets.

16:24 This is written by someone named Brian Allen.

16:25 I don't know who this is but uh they wrote Hillsdale College,

16:29 one of America's loudest opponents of D E I just gave a woman

16:33 an honorary doctorate and commencement speech

16:35 opportunity because of who her husband is.

16:39 That is the definition of D E I.

16:41 Diversity, equity and inclusion for me and not for thee.

16:48 So conservatives I hate to call balls

16:51 and strikes here but like yeah, that's right.

16:56 That that's that is actually the very definition of D E I.

16:59 Like I I when people have someone come and give a commencement address

17:03 that's usually not the circumstances that you

17:05 give someone an honorary doctorate for.

17:07 Fair?

17:09 I don't mind it.

17:10 I get it.

17:10 Like I said, I'm adjusted to this new program that she can do

17:13 whatever she wants and they're just going to keep handing her stuff and she's

17:15 just going to become more and more accomplished and people that are calling

17:18 this out and saying she's not qualified for this, welcome to the program,

17:22 ladies and gentlemen.

17:23 Virtually, Erica's entire educational background

17:26 has sort of just been fictionalized

17:28 and when people began pointing this out, we got yelled at.

17:31 This is just par for the Erica course.

17:33 We keep being told it doesn't matter.

17:35 Her husband died.

17:37 Right?

17:37 She told the when she was trying out

17:40 for the American race with her ex-boyfriend, she never said,

17:45 you know, she never had a boyfriend before Charlie

17:46 in the five years before Charlie, but she did.

17:49 And when they were trying out for the Great

17:51 American Race in the video that she submitted,

17:55 she said that she graduated from ASU magna laude.

18:00 Years later, she would edit that credential.

18:03 She just kind of upgraded it on her LinkedIn

18:05 page when she wrote that she graduated summa laude.

18:10 Right?

18:11 With a double degree, I should mention.

18:13 You can take a look at this, her LinkedIn page,

18:15 in political science and international relations.

18:18 This is This is the old LinkedIn page.

18:20 It since has been removed.

18:22 Turns out she didn't graduate magna laude

18:24 and she also didn't graduate summa laude.

18:26 She didn't graduate with any honors and she

18:29 did not graduate with a double degree.

18:31 That was all just made up for funsies and she's put it on bios,

18:35 so this is not like,

18:35 oh, this was one mistake and I had an intern that typed a button wrong.

18:39 It's been put on bios.

18:40 In fact, ASU did not even offer

18:43 the international relations degree at all in 2012.

18:48 Baron Coleman, some other people online,

18:50 dug up the dug up everything from the past

18:54 to see if the catalog even offered it.

18:56 The answer is no.

18:57 So, she just made it up.

18:59 And we're not allowed to ask questions.

19:00 Not the only thing she made up.

19:02 Pull that up again.

19:03 You will also see on her LinkedIn that she has Doctor

19:07 of Education that she received

19:09 that in Christian Leadership from Liberty University.

19:12 That is factually untrue.

19:13 That's made up.

19:15 She took a a couple of credits toward that goal, but she never accomplished it.

19:21 Just a couple of credits toward the goal uh when her and Charlie were together,

19:24 and then she decided that was enough,

19:26 and she could assert that she had this Doctor of Education.

19:29 She doesn't.

19:31 Our fault for noticing.

19:33 Our fault for fact-checking her background at all.

19:36 How dare we?

19:37 Her husband died.

19:38 Um and she's allowed to compulsively lie about everything all the time.

19:43 And if you are a person that thinks, "Hey,

19:47 if you have a profile of an individual who compulsively lies about everything,

19:52 that person should probably not be put

19:54 into a leadership role." If you feel that way,

19:57 you're the monster and you're demonic.

20:00 There were so many holes and so many lies in the Erica

20:03 Kirk background and and story that we had to choose.

20:07 We had to like think about editing.

20:08 How are we going to tell the Erica Kirk

20:10 story when we did Bride uh Bride of Charlie.

20:13 We had to just leave a lot of them.

20:14 Okay, we're just going to let her go with that lie.

20:16 We never even covered that the whole educational background is made up,

20:20 virtually the entire I mean,

20:21 she did receive her master's um from Liberty University online,

20:25 but she just keeps adding credentials.

20:26 So, I say, more power to her.

20:28 I think we should call her Dr.

20:30 Erica Kirk.

20:31 I think we should lean in to the absurdity um

20:35 of of where we're at right now as a society,

20:37 where everyone can see what she is and apparently

20:41 she's a part of the elite class of people.

20:43 Let's call it the Epstein class of people who just don't have to answer.

20:46 There's no consequences for anything,

20:47 and they can make us the bad guys for noticing.

20:49 So, I salute you uh Dr.

20:51 Kirk.

20:52 We'll be back after a brief break.

20:54 All right, you guys.

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22:45 Okay, so I have been trying to stress to you

22:47 that we are kind of barreling toward a society of make-believe.

22:51 It's very scary, actually, if you just pause for a second and consider it.

22:55 It's very strange that they're trying to see if they can

22:59 sort of force us to believe things that are just not so.

23:05 And they become angry, and they become insistent, and they spend more money,

23:09 and they're just getting influencers that go out there,

23:12 and they're I I just I mean, I felt this way,

23:14 by the way, when the transgender thing was happening.

23:16 I was very vocal against this.

23:17 It's like there's a difference between a woman and a man,

23:20 and they just kept pushing it and pushing it and pushing it,

23:22 and it's like you can,

23:24 you know, wear the clothes that you want to wear and feel how you feel,

23:28 but there is such a thing as reality, okay?

23:30 And now we've moved away from that becoming a social issue, and it was always,

23:35 you know, obviously political, but we're starting to see this in politics.

23:38 We're starting to see them, and that's of course is the example with Dr.

23:41 Kirk and her entire background, which makes no sense.

23:43 Where the entire world notices that this is

23:46 this is what the Erica Kirk story feels like.

23:48 It feels to me, if you're a conservative,

23:50 like it felt when we were going through the transgenderism argument,

23:53 where we all know that this is not right.

23:55 So, maybe some people are pretending to be nice.

23:57 It's actually a perfect analogy here.

23:59 A lot of people who I know who initially were like, "Yeah,

24:02 let's support transgenderism." It's not because they believed it,

24:04 they just were like, "It's just nice.

24:06 It's the nice thing to do,

24:07 right?" I would say a lot of lefties found found themselves in that category.

24:11 That person feels that way, let them feel that way.

24:13 And it's the same thing with the Erica Kirk story,

24:15 where it they're just ignoring the facts,

24:17 they're ignoring all the lies, and they're just like, "Well,

24:18 it's just nice because her husband died that we shouldn't even

24:22 consider uh whether or not she's lying about things or whether

24:25 or not she's helping to cover up certain things that would

24:27 help us solve the mystery of um how her husband died,

24:30 and she's not acting right.

24:32 She's not acting like a grieving widow." I'm going

24:35 to give you another example of this, like recently.

24:38 This Nick Shirley guy, this thing that is going on, okay?

24:42 It's now getting weird enough that I do feel the need to comment and weigh in.

24:45 I didn't even know that this is like this was

24:48 a beef that I accidentally uh stumbled upon that people were saying,

24:52 like he's this the term that they use here is fed jacketed.

24:56 Like essentially, he's being created by the media.

24:59 There are a lot of people that are like that.

25:01 I would say Bari Weiss is a perfect example.

25:03 Like, we all know she's not qualified to be an executive at CBS.

25:07 They just don't care.

25:08 She They're just There you go, Bari Weiss.

25:10 And this Nick Fuentes thing is one

25:11 of the weirdest non-beefs that I have ever had.

25:13 So, I'm going to back up here and say,

25:16 I do did not follow at all the {quote} {unquote} rise of Nick Fuentes.

25:20 He's 24 years old.

25:22 Um it was, if I recall, like very quickly after the Charlie Kirk assassination.

25:27 He was sort of introduced first on the Charlie Kirk show on the day he died.

25:30 Remember, we covered that.

25:30 That's the reason I covered him on the show on September 10th

25:33 when I was trying to work through timelines and I made a mistake.

25:36 Um and I completely owned that mistake and had

25:38 a conversation with him uh right after the Charlie Kirk assassination.

25:42 Uh suddenly, I was not emotional emotionally available to look at other topics,

25:47 to cover other topics.

25:48 I was not interested in other trends and suddenly we have this this kid,

25:52 23 years old I think he was last year,

25:55 and they say, Nick Fuentes has uncovered massive

25:57 welfare fraud in the Somalian community in Minnesota.

26:01 Okay, a friend of mine just got shot in the neck.

26:03 Don't really care to follow the story.

26:04 Daycare fraud.

26:05 Great, thumbs up.

26:06 Did not peek beyond that at all.

26:09 Um I didn't I want to be perfectly here I perfectly clear here.

26:12 I did not watch or read even 1 minute of what he uncovered.

26:15 So, color me completely ignorant of the welfare fraud story in Somalia.

26:19 Just being honest with you.

26:20 I didn't have it in me then and I just truly did not care.

26:23 Okay.

26:24 So, then fast forward to me mentioning Nick Fuentes on the show and I was like,

26:29 okay, who is this guy?

26:30 And I was quite stunned that there was this video out there of him saying

26:35 that he like broke into infiltrated the most

26:39 dangerous gang in Brazil in 48 hours.

26:43 Like, that's so objectively stupid and ignorant.

26:45 You have to be so ignorant to even believe it.

26:48 That's just be a headline that your brain automatically rejects, right?

26:52 A 23-year-old kid, absent any connections,

26:55 infiltrated a gang in 48 hours is like they are they are trying you right now.

26:59 They they're not even trying to give us like good slop anymore.

27:04 Like we're we're we're beneath the level of fed slop with this, right?

27:07 It's just stupid.

27:08 It's nothing personal, Nick Shirley.

27:10 It's just dumb when you hear it that a person infiltrate a 23-year-old kid,

27:15 and I did say a white boy for a reason, which I will explain,

27:19 infiltrated the most dangerous gang in Brazil by himself with cameras, okay?

27:23 Anyway, Nick Shirley, after I said this on my show the next day,

27:27 it was like trending and all of these people,

27:29 the people I trust the least, by the way.

27:31 I mean, like Tim Pool,

27:32 everyone's like writing these statements like Nick Shirley got punched

27:35 in the face by me because I'm not an idiot.

27:38 I don't have to look deeper into that story.

27:39 It's obviously objectively on its face untrue and made up.

27:42 I don't know if it's for entertainment.

27:44 I don't know if it's for funnies.

27:45 I don't know the purpose of making up something like that.

27:48 I've just lived a little bit of life and know that that's not how it works.

27:51 And so, PBD, who has just been sort of taking

27:55 swipes at me for like since Charlie Kirk died,

27:57 you know, he notoriously hosted the person who said

27:59 I didn't speak to Charlie since, you know, 2019.

28:04 We hadn't spoken.

28:05 We were at war with each other.

28:06 Whatever.

28:06 I don't care.

28:07 You know, it's just add it to the pile of people

28:10 who are are constantly just making little snide comments on me.

28:13 But Nick PBD, who was one of the people

28:16 who issued a kind statement about Nick Shirley because gasp,

28:19 he can't doesn't believe that he infiltrated a gang in 48 hours,

28:23 hosted him on his show.

28:25 And they show the clip of what I said, and PBD's pretending he had no idea.

28:31 He completely already knew I said this.

28:33 Even the whole little scene you're going

28:34 to watch between them is just so contrived.

28:37 It just bothers me on a level of why do we have to live in this soap opera?

28:42 Why are we all Sim characters?

28:44 Who who pulling the strings?

28:46 Anyway, I want you to listen to this conversation that they have.

28:51 When the market is supporting you, who in the market is criticizing you

28:55 that you're surprised on the conservative side?

28:59 Are there people who are like, "Nick, go.

29:01 You're doing great." And then there's people that are like,

29:03 "Yeah, I don't know if I like what he's doing."

29:05 Candace Owens came after me uh a while back.

29:08 That was very interesting.

29:09 Why would Candace Owens come after you?

29:11 I don't know.

29:12 She like didn't believe my Brazilian favela video.

29:15 And Oh, it's not even the So, you're talking This is a couple years ago.

29:18 This is not recent.

29:21 recent.

29:20 She's like, "White boy." I'm like, it was very like snarky of her to do this.

29:27 Interesting.

29:27 This is it?

29:29 Yeah.

29:32 But which video was that?

29:33 Is that a recent video?

29:35 Last summer.

29:36 I'm just going to say I don't believe that at all.

29:38 I'm sorry.

29:39 I just I I I I I just It's so stupid.

29:40 I'm not even going to tell you why I don't believe it.

29:41 It's like It's like if you don't know that that's

29:43 stupid that he infiltrated the gang in 48 hours.

29:48 Like it's just that's so dumb.

29:49 I'm so tired of dumb.

29:51 That's not how that works, okay?

29:52 You don't just go up to gangs on the street

29:55 as a nice-looking white boy with a camera and say,

29:57 "Hey, I just wanted to sort of like see what you're doing here.

29:59 What's going on?" Okay, let's just stop.

30:01 That's stupid.

30:02 Of course that's dumb.

30:03 I'm sorry, Nick.

30:03 I know you're young.

30:04 I hope you know, whoever is your contact that has you infiltrating

30:07 antifa and infiltrating El Salvador at the age of 23 years old,

30:11 it just feels like Sean Penn young to me.

30:15 Meaning your your handler or you're representing somebody?

30:18 Like she's basically saying that's fake.

30:20 She's saying that's fake.

30:21 And I'm like, well, maybe if these podcasters

30:23 would actually leave their podcast studios, no offense, Pat,

30:26 uh they leave their podcast studios and go and like do journalism,

30:29 like they'd actually see like stuff just sometimes just happens.

30:34 It was that last part that really sent me cuz it's just so lol.

30:37 And then this whole like, "Oh, why don't you try to do real journalism

30:40 and and like leave your basement from podcasting.

30:43 Alex Clark kind of backed this up,

30:44 too, because like she can't miss an opportunity.

30:46 Turning Point can't miss miss an opportunity because I think

30:49 I took from them what they believe is rightfully theirs.

30:52 But she wrote this, "Nick Shirley is a real journalist.

30:54 Candace Owens is not." Oh, okay.

30:55 So, we're in a podcast, we're in the basement.

30:57 Hey Nick, so the reason why we know that that doesn't make sense, actually,

31:01 is because you have to be the most sheltered person in the world to even

31:07 have to to need it to be explained to you why that's not plausible.

31:10 Okay?

31:10 It's not about It's not a job.

31:12 Okay?

31:12 People just live in these scenarios.

31:15 People like literally,

31:16 I have five year five-year-olds in my family who have seen more

31:20 and lived through more than you've probably ever lived through in your life.

31:23 The circumstance itself did not happen.

31:25 And I I cannot tell you how much it frustrates me that you're pretending

31:29 that I'm coming from a position

31:30 of privilege when it's actually the exact opposite.

31:32 You couldn't do this in Chicago.

31:34 You couldn't do this in Detroit.

31:36 Forget in a favela in Brazil.

31:38 Places like that, which I have Brazilians in my family,

31:40 you don't even go to parts in Brazil without having

31:43 someone who is from that place and from that neighborhood.

31:46 Uh so, no, it's not about podcasting in my basement.

31:49 I actually lived a lot of life, Nick Shirley,

31:51 before I got to podcasting in my basement,

31:53 before I was married, before I had children.

31:55 In fact, I moved down to South America

31:58 for 2 months to learn Spanish with very strict instructions.

32:01 The school that I enrolled in, don't wear any jewelry,

32:03 don't don't wear any makeup, don't look American.

32:06 You don't just go down there, as I said,

32:09 and why I'm pointing out the fact that you are

32:10 a white boy is because you don't look like them.

32:13 The whole idea when you're down there is

32:14 to blend in, not to come with the camera.

32:17 A Mormon kid from Utah with the camera, "Oh, hey,

32:20 what's the most dangerous game in this in this favela?

32:22 Can I infiltrate in 48 hours?" It just didn't happen.

32:26 It didn't It didn't even kind of happen.

32:29 And any Like I said,

32:30 you have to That could only work you'd have to sell this to billionaires, right?

32:34 You could only make people who have never touched their own door handles.

32:39 Like you'd have to grow up like Paris Hilton and go

32:42 somewhere where Nick Shirley is and he tells you about how

32:44 he infiltrated a favela and she would think that that's plausible

32:47 cuz she's never even been to like a dangerous gas station.

32:50 That's how fake that is.

32:51 Like there are gas stations on the New

32:53 Jersey Turnpike that people you couldn't infiltrate.

32:57 You couldn't buy a bag of chips and feel safe, okay?

33:00 And you're trying to tell us that you're just

33:02 a 23-year-old kid who infiltrated a favela in 48 hours.

33:05 I don't need to pierce but beyond the layer.

33:07 I've just lived these things.

33:09 I've lived these circumstances and so have the majority of people.

33:12 And so I don't understand the purpose of Nick Shirley.

33:14 I didn't know that there was this huge

33:15 scandal and then subsequently found out that people,

33:18 you know, think he's fed jacketed.

33:19 I wasn't trying to hit upon that.

33:21 I just watched the video and had a reaction

33:23 to how stupid it was that they're trying to sell it.

33:25 They're not even giving us good psyops anymore.

33:28 They have such low respect for us.

33:30 Um you you couldn't go to trailer parks and do that.

33:33 There are certain trailer parks, a lot of them,

33:35 that you couldn't go through and do that.

33:37 Like you would get harmed.

33:38 And by the way, it's irresponsible to suggest

33:40 to 23-year-old kids that they can do this.

33:42 I actually find it to be irresponsible.

33:44 Like yeah, you want to be like Nick Shirley,

33:46 you can just go down with the camera, no connections, and you know,

33:50 you'll suddenly arrive and be welcomed into a gang.

33:53 They'll be holding guns and you're perfectly safe.

33:55 He's just that amazing.

33:57 His words are just that gentle and just that kind.

33:59 I pointed out that you would have obviously stood out, Nick,

34:03 as a white boy walking through a favela with a camera.

34:06 They would look, there's just a certain natural things that happen.

34:09 You stand out in the jungle.

34:12 Oh, this does not look like someone that should be here.

34:15 You could say the same thing.

34:16 If you if you put any person,

34:18 you could if you put a gangster rapper and you put him up in the suburb

34:23 suburbs which where they haven't seen a person with melanin in over a century,

34:27 they'd go, "That person is standing out there with their jeans down low,

34:32 baby, you know, below their butts or something like that.

34:35 You just would look odd and you it is the exact

34:38 opposite of anybody who has lived and been around these areas,

34:41 you know that you don't do that.

34:43 It's just it's a basic survival thing, you don't do that.

34:46 You I I have family reunions Nick Shirley couldn't infiltrate and survive.

34:50 That's just the reality.

34:51 Like so this whole like tough boy because they don't leave their basement,

34:55 you sound sheltered.

34:56 You sound sheltered that you think that because

34:59 I podcast today that I didn't live

35:01 a lot more yesterdays way more aggressive yesterdays

35:05 than you've ever lived in your entire life.

35:07 That's why I laughed Nick cuz it's so implausible that you did that.

35:11 And the other thing that I want to add here is just more broadly speaking,

35:15 I don't know why they're doing this now.

35:17 It's and I do think we're getting to this sort

35:18 of stage of idiocracy whether we're talking about the Erica Kirk thing,

35:22 everyone can see it that is so painfully and obviously

35:24 untrue whether we're talking about the Nick Shirley thing,

35:27 it's like they've calculated to a point where they

35:30 should just be able to with X amount of dollars,

35:32 with this amount of influencers,

35:34 and with this much power behind a political party whether it's

35:38 we're going to get Trump to support this person or you know,

35:41 we're going to get Kamala Harris support this person.

35:44 It's like an equation that they're just like this equals success.

35:48 And we're rejecting that.

35:51 We have to hold on to common sense.

35:52 Like we all just have to know that Nick

35:55 Shirley did not infiltrate a gang in 48 hours.

35:57 We all just have to know that it is not normal for a woman whose husband

36:02 was assassinated in broad daylight to 6 days

36:05 later be on a Zoom call laughing about emojis.

36:09 Like we should all say, "Nope." Doesn't pass the sniff test and I'm

36:13 just not going to have you explain to me.

36:15 I'm not going to like make you like pretend

36:18 that this is some sort of controversy because I have common sense.

36:21 They're trying to make it illegal to think.

36:24 Like it's illegal to just know things spiritually,

36:28 instinctively, intuitively, doesn't pass the sniff test,

36:31 and I just feel like we have to hold firm on that.

36:34 So, I don't mean mean to use Nick Shirley as an example.

36:36 I don't care to further wade into the controversy of people

36:41 who are talking about his background and saying that he's been created.

36:45 I tend to just look at how people react when I point

36:47 out the obvious to know that he's got some backing behind him, right?

36:50 He's up here crying about a a little remark about favela.

36:54 Like, okay.

36:55 It didn't happen.

36:55 So, take that or leave that.

36:57 He is being pushed upon us for some reason.

36:59 I don't know what that reason is.

37:01 By the way, he's now going to be going to Cuba, guys.

37:05 No connections.

37:05 He's just going to Cuba.

37:07 He claims he he went to Cuba.

37:10 He was almost taken hostage.

37:11 Man, this is the bravest kid in the entire world.

37:14 And of course, this headline from yesterday,

37:17 "Will the US invade Cuba?" It tells us that spy flights there are surging.

37:22 There are new sanctions.

37:24 And we all know the CIA is involved in Cuba at this moment.

37:27 So, I don't find the timing of Nick

37:29 Shirley I find everything about him to be suspicious.

37:32 I would say to everyone, look at these videos with some degree

37:35 of caution cuz that none of this is natural.

37:38 Neither is like the fake feigned surprise of PBD.

37:42 I'm so surprised that Candace came after you.

37:44 Like, completely ridiculous.

37:45 Anyway, we'll take a brief break before I get to some of your comments.

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39:51 I should also be clear that when we're using the term,

39:53 we say someone's fed jacketed,

39:55 it doesn't mean that this person is a fed themselves.

39:58 It just means that they clearly have connections with the government and they

40:02 are being sort of just kind of put upon us, the worst upon us.

40:05 We don't really know why.

40:07 And I would just say that that's just common sense.

40:10 It doesn't pass the sniff test for me and I'm just going to hold that opinion.

40:13 I'm not going to investigate.

40:14 I'm not passionate about Nick Shirley.

40:15 It was such a non-item on my show that the fact

40:18 that he's like trying to extend it into some beef is ridiculous.

40:22 The fact that it was even trending after I said it.

40:24 Like Like I said, the people we trust the least all being like,

40:27 "He's the most amazing thing.

40:29 I can't believe he had to survive someone saying that he didn't

40:31 go to a favela." That in and of itself feels feels inauthentic.

40:35 That just That's not a a normal way to react to someone saying,

40:37 "Yeah, don't buy that one." Um and like I said,

40:40 I wasn't aware of the history of people who had gone after him

40:43 and showed whatever the connections were

40:45 and I'm I don't plan on investigating it.

40:47 I just don't care enough.

40:48 On to bigger things, uh more important things like I said,

40:51 which for me is the Charles Kirk assassination.

40:54 A top comment from last episode, friend ban writes,

40:56 "I think Erica hit the sixth stage of grief,

40:59 which is bridal shots." Yes, you guys I I think we're with me,

41:02 just very confused about why she was in the drapes.

41:06 I don't know what was going on.

41:07 I know that I couldn't do that when I was a kid.

41:09 My mom would say, "Get out them drapes right now." Um she just or whatever.

41:15 And I it was very bridal and next thing we know,

41:18 like I said, we were being shouted at.

41:19 Alex B writes, "I desperately need an Erica Kirk South Park episode." Yes.

41:24 Oh my.

41:25 That would be amazing.

41:28 Obviously, we would get in so much trouble.

41:31 So much trouble.

41:34 But it I think it's worth it if we are in trouble.

41:36 We're already in trouble all the time with the mainstream media.

41:39 So, uh that might happen.

41:40 Like I said, Charlie would have laughed at that stuff,

41:42 but we see that Erica has taken

41:43 the Drew Ski skit deadly serious for some reason.

41:46 Um and for the record,

41:48 the people that were trying to turn that into something racial,

41:50 like Andrew Colvette, now do like black conservatives.

41:55 He does every race.

41:57 If you know Drew Ski's skits, he makes fun of Vietnamese people.

42:01 He dressed up like he was Vietnamese person, did this whole nail salon thing.

42:04 So, it's this It was not because of her race that he did that.

42:07 And just last week he dropped a massive video where he was targeting

42:12 black British actors and it was hilarious and we just laughed at it.

42:15 So, I hate to see that the right has become the things that we

42:19 hated about the left like not able to just take a joke on its face.

42:22 Nobody got hurt in him mocking Eric Kirk.

42:25 Uh clearly she got her feelings hurt,

42:27 but it's because she takes herself apparently uh way too seriously

42:30 or maybe she was just promised that she would be protected and she

42:33 would everyone was just going to love her and I think she's

42:34 quite surprised that the opposite thing um seems to be what they accomplished.

42:39 And the reason for that is because

42:40 she just comes across as inauthentic and dishonest.

42:43 Um and they have no response for all of the various lies,

42:47 inconsistencies, um inaccuracies that we have pointed out.

42:50 They just keep saying demonic, send out the pastor,

42:52 send out the pastor to tell him it's demonic, it's demonic.

42:55 No, lies are actually in fact satanic.

42:59 Satan is the author of lies.

43:01 So, if you're looking to people who have been telling the truth

43:05 or people who are trying to get out the truth and I will say,

43:08 do we make mistakes sometimes?

43:09 Absolutely.

43:10 But at least we have it in our heart that when we do those mistakes,

43:13 we course correct, we apologize, and we move on.

43:15 You guys are on a level of arrogance uh that when

43:19 you get literally just caught lying, you yell at us.

43:23 You she doesn't show up to an event and you have JD Vance lecture us.

43:26 Get out of my face, JD Vance.

43:28 I'm sorry.

43:29 I actually really disliked him after that.

43:31 I'm like he's sitting up here on the stage yelling at us because she

43:33 doesn't want to go to the event because no one wants to hear her speak.

43:36 Like that's so backwards and it is so

43:38 abusive and narcissistic to do that to people.

43:41 You you want to make comments,

43:42 you wanted to be Charlie Kirk so bad that you allegedly made a whole AI

43:46 video saying your husband wanted you and we

43:48 all deep down spiritually know that is untrue.

43:51 Okay?

43:52 Charlie didn't change his mind 2 weeks before he died.

43:54 We know what he thought.

43:55 We have hours and hours and hours and hours

43:57 of footage of Charlie Kirk saying women should stay home.

44:01 You wanted to put on your big girl glitter pants

44:03 and and take his role and be CEO and chairman.

44:06 Well, guess what?

44:07 Life's tough, get a helmet, okay?

44:09 No one feels bad for you because you have to deal

44:11 with criticism that Charlie had to deal with for last 10 years,

44:14 and he took it gracefully, he fought, he answered the questions,

44:17 he allowed people to go through his life.

44:19 I've had to do the same thing.

44:21 Nobody's crying crying for me when I'm my family's getting attacked,

44:25 and all of a sudden you just think that what

44:26 this was supposed to be I dub thee Erica Kirk, the CEO of Turning Point USA.

44:32 Nobody ask any questions.

44:35 What is that?

44:36 Wrong country, sweetheart.

44:37 No, we don't we don't do the king and queen I dub thee stuff here.

44:41 So, if you can't take the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen, Erica.

44:45 That's just the reality.

44:46 Just get out of the kitchen, step down,

44:48 go away, and pretend to be a grieving widow.

44:50 That works for everybody.

44:53 Anyway, a little too fired up here.

44:55 I'm going to move on to your comments from today's episode.

44:59 We have a Bill K writes, "Crisis King, Marzi Queen, and Candace is a princess.

45:03 Happy late Mother's Day." Thank you so much.

45:05 No, the only princess in this house is my daughter.

45:07 She's definitely a princess.

45:09 Um she's just working me these days, man.

45:11 You just it's so fast how clever they are.

45:13 They just know what to say to get what they want.

45:16 I'm being outworked by toddlers over here.

45:18 Moderator Marzi writes, "Hey Candace,

45:20 I know you were covering Nick Fuentes surely today,

45:21 but I wanted to let you know that the Quartering has messed with you on X

45:24 and is now facing a potential lawsuit

45:26 involving false flagging and deplatforming other YouTube channels,

45:30 as well as for doxing and harassment." That's very interesting.

45:33 I did not know that.

45:34 Um I will look into that.

45:36 I had no idea.

45:37 I who is suing him?

45:38 I know nothing about that.

45:39 I just read these comments live, so I wasn't expecting that one,

45:41 and I have I can't really add anything

45:43 to that, but I thank you for giving me that tip.

45:45 Um Mrs.

45:46 MPK writes, "What's your response

45:47 to reporting that during your private interview,

45:50 Erica Kirk gave you Bryan Harpole's

45:52 alibi for the alleged Fort Huachuca sighting?

45:54 Did you ask Erica for her alibi during your meeting?" Um ops doing the most.

45:59 This merits clarification.

46:00 Yeah, no, absolutely.

46:01 Uh she gave me the I thought it was very strange.

46:03 So, my thought process, just to remind you guys,

46:05 and you'll see this all cuz this is going to come out in the filings,

46:07 and I actually I'm thinking about doing the Brian Friedman thing,

46:10 which was obviously a lawyer Blake Lively Justin Baldoni,

46:14 where he just put it all online cuz I have nothing to hide.

46:16 So, the timeline on that is when I had received the email

46:20 from Mitch or email it was Mitch's friend that emailed me,

46:22 and I called him, and he said his story.

46:25 He was clear that he saw Brian Harpole and he saw Erica.

46:28 But, he said he saw Erica Kirk on the 8th, and she wasn't leaving a meeting.

46:33 Brian Harpole he saw on the 9th,

46:35 and he was leaving the meeting on Fort Huachuca base,

46:37 and that was when the cops were called, all of that.

46:40 And I You have to remember like at this particular time, I didn't suspect Erica,

46:46 and I felt like she was under a lot of like pressure.

46:49 And I didn't want to unnecessarily put a spotlight

46:54 on her because he saw her at a hotel.

46:55 It wasn't related to the meeting.

46:57 He didn't see her with Brian,

46:58 and I knew that her mom and her stepdad have contracts with the government.

47:04 So, there's a thousand other reasons that she could have been

47:06 at the Fort Huachuca airbase that were not, you know, weird.

47:11 So, I made the decision when I first presented the story,

47:13 which was absent before my interview with Mitch.

47:15 So, I basically first told Mitch's story,

47:18 his entire background, and then I said,

47:20 "And he says that he saw Brian Harpole." If you go back

47:23 and you watch that, I said he saw Brian Harpole on the 9th, right?

47:26 Removed Erica from it entirely.

47:28 Instantly, the next day Erica did went on her tour, the stop tour.

47:33 And Erica suddenly was very panicked about this.

47:36 So, it's almost to me like she knew that if we got Mitch onto the show,

47:40 he was going to tell the other part, which was that he saw Erica.

47:43 Like there was some like she did it was the not the five,

47:47 the Harrison What is her name on Fox News?

47:51 I'm totally blanking on her name.

47:52 If you guys remember it, tell me.

47:55 Harrison Faulkner was her is her name I think.

47:59 Yeah, she went on Harris Harris Faulkner, sorry.

48:02 Harris Faulkner, she went on that show and then she was all fired

48:05 up for the first time and like stop conspiracy theories you need to stop.

48:08 That was the very next day.

48:09 So I was like that's interesting cuz we didn't mention the Erica part yet.

48:12 Does she know something that like it felt weird.

48:14 Then the day after that she did Barry Weiss and they cut the clip of her saying,

48:19 "What do you have to say to the podcaster

48:20 Candace Owens?" I then would later find

48:22 out that they had planned that the question

48:24 answer segment and she's like stop, just stop.

48:26 Then I got Justin Strife that backfires.

48:28 Justin Strife emails us and we're off for the weekend

48:31 cuz I said I'm going to interview Mitch next.

48:33 I had said that.

48:34 I get Ian Carroll calling me and he's got Paramount tacked I mean uh

48:37 Valhalla the YouTuber Green Beret basically already

48:41 threatening me like don't don't interview Mitch.

48:45 That was what was coming up.

48:45 I was I wanted to interview Mitch as I said um or else he's going to sue.

48:49 So I'm getting threatened with a lawsuit before I

48:51 even interview Mitch and I'm like dude, what's up?

48:53 So I message Brian Harpole and I'm like, "Hey,

48:56 like I'm going to have this guy Mitch on but like we could

48:59 I could also like if you want to debunk it I'm happy to do.

49:01 I don't know this guy but this reaction doesn't feel organic to me.

49:05 Like everybody seems to be panicking and I haven't yet had Mitch on.

49:08 He doesn't answer.

49:09 So I'm like okay.

49:10 Then Erica comes and we sit down.

49:13 They scheduled it for Monday and you will remember so they were

49:16 still thinking I was going to have Mitch on my show then.

49:19 They scheduled it during the block where I would normally have my show.

49:21 They said let's have a ceasefire.

49:23 No one's going to talk and then they boosted Paramount Tactical basically trying

49:27 to debunk me on the show while I was in a hotel for 4 hours.

49:33 And I thought it was very odd that she said to me that they were

49:36 very upset with Brian Harpole that they were

49:39 not they had a communication breakdown with him.

49:41 They never authorized him to go on the Shawn Ryan

49:44 show but then she handed me an alibi for him.

49:47 I'm like, "Why are you concerned about his alibi?

49:49 You're not talking to this guy and you're going to fire Brian Harpole.

49:52 why are you concerned about his alibi so

49:54 much that you're handing it to me, right?

49:57 And then we look at it, I looked at it and I said, "Oh,

49:58 this actually does not cover the time period

50:01 that Mitch said he saw him." So at that moment,

50:03 I'm not saying to her anything that he saw you,

50:06 too, but I'm paying attention to her behavior.

50:10 Right?

50:10 At that point, she had already told me a couple of lies, so I was on the like,

50:14 "Okay, let's go easy." Clocked her on a couple of lies,

50:17 but I didn't want her to stop talking.

50:19 And she sort of just sat up and handed me Brian Harpole's flights,

50:22 which were for 1:49 p.m.

50:24 on the 9th going to Utah.

50:26 And I said, "This doesn't cover the time period,

50:28 so this is not This doesn't actually debunk anything." And she said,

50:31 "Oh." I thought that's weird.

50:34 Cuz I'm you're not talking to Brian Harpole, so what's up with this, you know?

50:40 Then after all was said and done, then and then Justin asked me,

50:43 "Are you going to" still didn't mention it to her.

50:45 And then Justin asked me, uh "When is your show off air?" cuz we

50:49 were coming up on Christmas, and I was like, "Well, in a couple of days,

50:51 actually." And it was almost like they just kind

50:53 of wanted to get me not to interview him.

50:57 And then I interviewed him.

50:58 I did it on the 18th.

50:59 I was like, "I'm going to do this because I messaged Brian Harpole,

51:03 Erica didn't give me an alibi for him, and I allowed Mitch to tell a story,

51:07 and he said that he saw Erica on the 8th."

51:10 And what happened thereafter was we were threatened, literally threatened.

51:16 I mean, when you see these messages that Valhalla was

51:19 sending about how I would be ruined, he explicitly says,

51:23 "She We're going to ruin her by being like if

51:25 she does not like basically revoke her commentary about Fort Huachuca,

51:29 we're going to basically bury her in everything Mitch has done in his past.

51:33 I'm talking to his ex-wife." I'm like,

51:34 "What is Why are Valhalla and Paramount Tactical" Then they called Mitch.

51:39 And they tried to play good cop.

51:41 They were like, "Yeah, brother.

51:43 Like uh we'd love to have have on the show,

51:45 fellow green green beret." But they were saying

51:47 that I made up that he they were telling me

51:49 the opposite or trying to tell me the opposite

51:51 that this is a a case of stolen valor.

51:54 I went this is really weird.

51:55 Who's directing these two people?

51:57 Who's directing Paramount Tactical and Valhalla?

52:00 And then lo and behold the answer came when accidentally Paramount Tactical read

52:07 Erica's alibi um live on his show when it said please don't share.

52:13 And then what was stranger is that the kids

52:15 in the photo who's like these are her kids.

52:16 She was walking with her kids.

52:18 I didn't even share the fact that I knew that that was not her kids.

52:24 Well guess what?

52:24 Guess who just admitted that guys?

52:26 Paramount Tactical.

52:27 He says okay fine they have now just admitted over the weekend that the boy

52:32 in the Fort Huachuca alibi photo is

52:34 not Erica's which the internet immediately clocked.

52:37 Okay, if you have kids you know you're not looking at a 16-month-old.

52:40 I think that's how old um their son would have been.

52:43 This is giant child.

52:46 And I had someone very close to the family

52:48 say that's not either of the children actually.

52:51 So at least we now have Paramount admitting that's

52:54 the alibi that was given in which Andrew explicitly

52:57 states she was with her kids as he sends

53:00 the photo don't share those are not her kids.

53:04 Maybe it's GG I don't know.

53:07 Person that knows them says it's not.

53:10 We now have confirmation that's not the son.

53:13 So so much weird stuff happened and then to realize that Andrew was coordinating

53:18 that was trying he was the one

53:19 coordinating these like YouTubers Valhalla and Paramount Tactical.

53:24 What's weird about that is they were in communication with me.

53:26 Erica and I had just sat down.

53:28 So they could have just texted me and said hey

53:30 just so you know I saw that you mentioned uh

53:32 whatever here's Erica's alibi here's where she was um she

53:36 was she was not at Fort Huachuca she was here.

53:39 They didn't do that.

53:40 They went behind the scenes and I will clock another lie.

53:44 It was after Erica told me that they were getting rid of Andrew Colvin.

53:47 So, Andrew Colvin has been doing her dirty work.

53:49 She's obviously got caught red-handed working with Andrew Colvin

53:52 to get this out through this obscure YouTube channel, this alibi,

53:56 after she told me that they had hired crisis PR,

53:59 and they were moving Andrew out of out of PR.

54:02 I can't remember she said they were going to fire him,

54:04 but I certainly know that she said they were moving him completely off of PR,

54:07 full stop, and they had stopped using

54:08 him because he had been an unmitigated disaster.

54:11 That was when she was lying about Andrew went rogue, Andrew went rogue.

54:15 So, when you have this many lies that are being told

54:18 about something that I was pretty much like less than 50/50 on.

54:22 Genuinely, I I obviously fact-checked enough to know that Mitch was there.

54:25 He had the videos.

54:26 I had his hotel reservation.

54:28 I had um I had confirmed with a source that his ID tags were real,

54:33 the military ID tags.

54:34 He had sent me so much overwhelming proof that he was there.

54:37 Um when you have that sort of a reaction,

54:41 it doesn't make you think the person was not there.

54:44 So, they took me from being 40/60, maybe even 30/70.

54:48 Like, I believe Mitch was there, but like he could just have a weird memory.

54:52 They could have literally said, "Oh, I must have been a look-alike.

54:54 It wasn't Erica or Bryan." They did way too much.

54:59 And the amount of times that Bryan Harpole lies in this lawsuit on its face,

55:05 to me, does not make me think he was not at Fort Huachuca.

55:08 Him saying Candace had his alibi, they know that is objectively not true.

55:12 They know that his flights on a 9:40 for 1:49 p.m.

55:17 from Dallas to Salt Lake City.

55:19 Okay, so why are they Why would you put that in a filing?

55:22 Why are you saying he went on Shawn Ryan

55:24 because of the grief that I put him through,

55:26 knowing fully well that I never mentioned him on my show until post-Shawn Ryan?

55:31 These are lies.

55:32 He's lying in a court filing.

55:35 So, what This does not make me feel I I am

55:38 not here today going Well now that he's filed this lawsuit

55:40 I believe him for the first time I messaged him four

55:43 times I now believe Brian Harpole was not at Fort Huachuca.

55:46 It's the It's actually the opposite.

55:48 The filing to me feels like Blake Lively.

55:52 Feels like Blake Lively's filing.

55:53 It's meant for PR.

55:55 It is not based in truth.

55:57 They still have not provided any receipts as to his whereabouts

56:00 on the morning of the 9th and I look forward to getting them.

56:04 Anyway, um that was a You got a lot more than you bargained for with that.

56:10 But I I guess I had to get off my chest.

56:12 Um AJ Gons writes Hillsdale College objected

56:16 objective truth or willful blindness how disappointing.

56:19 I I can tell you that I knew that she was going to speak there.

56:22 I had so many students messaging me that were upset about it.

56:24 It's not who they had imagined their commencement address would be given by.

56:28 Arkansas Kansas writes I have this sick feeling in my gut that they

56:30 are going to say that Tyler Robinson

56:32 contracted the hantavirus before the trial begins.

56:35 I think that nothing can happen to Tyler Robinson.

56:41 If like if that happens it's going to be terrible.

56:45 For Erica it's going to be terrible for Turning Point USA.

56:48 Um they better keep him the healthiest I would say that would

56:51 be my suggestion but these people never do the thing that's right.

56:54 Um so we'll see what happens but I I don't think of that's likely.

56:59 Uh Ali writes Would it be the best way

57:00 to honor your husband's legacy be to oppose the Iran war

57:04 and support Thomas Massie or to cozy up to his bullies

57:06 and ignore that he was changing at the end?

57:09 You're doing that thing Ali where you're the common sense thing.

57:13 People don't like that anymore.

57:15 We're living in make-believe.

57:17 That's the a common sense.

57:18 Yeah, you uh you should you should hate

57:20 the people that were bullying your husband extra.

57:22 You shouldn't be teaming up with them.

57:24 But that's not how Erica lives.

57:26 Not the amazing remarkable Erica Kirk, not the magnificent Dr.

57:30 Kirk.

57:32 She's like something else.

57:35 Jane writes love from the UK.

57:37 Christ is king and genocide is always wrong.

57:38 Go max.

57:39 Still haven't changed my stance on that.

57:40 It's aging like fine wine.

57:42 Christ is king.

57:43 Genocide is always wrong.

57:45 It feels okay.

57:47 Good black girl writes new merch, please.

57:49 Life's tough, get a helmet.

57:51 I think we actually have that merch on the website.

57:53 Um I'm pretty sure.

57:56 Let's see.

57:56 Let's um check that out on the website.

57:59 We have some new merch.

58:00 No, I we had it at some point, but maybe we should get that back up there.

58:03 Anyway, speaking of which,

58:05 here is some new merch that we do have on the website.

58:08 Um we have some great stuff.

58:11 We've got that Candace unchained stuff unchained stuff that's there which

58:16 is We've got a lot of great merch right now, actually.

58:18 The he David is absolutely crushing it in merch.

58:21 So, if you'd like to support us and support independent work,

58:23 um you can just buy some merch.

58:26 Easy way.

58:27 Also, remind you guys that we are starting

58:28 the new book on the book club, my book.

58:31 I'm super excited.

58:32 Go to makehimasandwich.com if you'd like to buy.

58:34 You can also buy it on Amazon, wherever you buy books.

58:36 Uh but this is my baby.

58:38 So, if you have considered yourself to be a feminist in the past for all

58:42 the reasons that I considered myself to be a feminist when I was in college,

58:44 I challenge you to read this book.

58:46 Where my lefties at?

58:47 My lefties who watch the show,

58:48 I challenge you to read this book with us in the book club.

58:52 Uh sign up and join us for um Friday.

58:56 I love the book club and I keep forgetting that we have to do.

58:58 Could you just remind me to message David that we need to do book club merch?

59:01 Like I need just anything, you know?

59:04 Uh okay.

59:05 Anyway, you guys, that is all that I have to say today.

59:07 I completely over-answered that question,

59:10 but I just wanted to take you guys through it.

59:11 I do think we are going to do a website,

59:12 so you guys can read the documents yourselves and read all

59:14 the messages and the timeline that I created of how everything went down.

59:18 I am still very suspicious about Fort Huachuca.

59:21 Um and I think you should be too.

59:23 Let me know how you feel.

59:24 We will see you guys tomorrow.