Update! Erika Did Not Go Home. Source Confirms AI Voice Tactics. | Candace Ep 336
Candace Owens
0:01 All right, you guys.
0:02 Happy Monday.
0:03 Update for you.
0:04 Erica Kirk did not in fact go home.
0:08 I just have to say no one bounces back faster from shootings than Erica Kirk.
0:13 She really is remarkable in that way.
0:15 Uh this time after saying she wanted to go home,
0:18 us enduring a lecture about how she needed to go home to her family,
0:22 she bounced over to to Michigan to address
0:25 the graduating class of Hillsdale College in a commencement speech.
0:28 It's just it's all over the place the messaging, right?
0:31 She's too scared to get on a plane by herself.
0:33 Secret Service can't protect her.
0:34 Oh, now she doesn't have Secret Service and she's back on stage out of school.
0:38 Nonetheless, I don't know what to think, guys.
0:41 What you should know is she was awarded an an honor honorary doctorate.
0:47 The internet has a lot to say about that.
0:49 Also, we got to discuss this Charlie GPT
0:53 thing that we have been hinting at because it's
0:55 looking like um there may be more legs
0:58 to the story thanks to a source which came forward.
1:01 You know that infamous recording of Charlie saying,
1:04 "I appoint Erica Kirk." We're going to discuss that.
1:06 And lastly, Nick Shirley, do you remember him?
1:08 We mentioned him one time on this show.
1:11 Well, he went on to uh Patrick Bet David's show and said that I came for him.
1:17 It's feeling a little over-the-top dramatic,
1:18 but I'd like to actually address what his general presence
1:22 in the media space signifies more broadly speaking because it is important.
1:28 Welcome back to Candace.
1:44 First and foremost, happy belated Mother's Day to all of the mothers out there.
1:48 I hope you enjoyed special treatment.
1:51 I know Andrew Kovette had a bit of a day, bizarre trend over on X.
1:55 So, it looks like Project Constitution reported that Andrew Kovette
2:00 was getting a divorce and it was just not true.
2:04 The basis of the report was not true.
2:06 But boy oh boy did all of Turning
2:08 Point USA rise up to defend Andrew Kulvette's honor.
2:13 I mean Andrew himself hit back hard immediately.
2:17 He basically turned into Will Smith at the Oscars.
2:20 He wrote this.
2:22 LOL.
2:22 You wish fat boy.
2:24 And then he says keep my wife's name out of your mouth and off
2:28 your feed and you'll have more pro
2:31 or you'll have more problems than you bargained for.
2:34 To everyone else, happy Mother's Day.
2:36 And yeah, we can pull that clip in because it was definitely
2:38 giving that energy of Will Smith if you want to play that clip.
2:42 Keep my wife's name out your mouth.
2:48 Yeah, that was that was the energy of that.
2:50 And then it wasn't it couldn't it wasn't left there.
2:52 Tyler Boyer then jumped in into the parade
2:56 to further defend Andrew's honor over a divorce rumor.
2:59 I'm like, this is just like I wake up
3:01 and there are rumors about me getting a divorce.
3:03 But Tyler Boyer said, "We have had numerous things like this said about us.
3:07 It is reckless disregard for truth
3:09 from people who call themselves investigators." Okay.
3:12 Uh never to be left behind.
3:15 Blakey Nef jumped in.
3:17 He wrote back to Project Constitution.
3:19 You are not very smart, are you?
3:22 And then when somebody asked a question about why
3:26 Andrew's wife was not at the White House correspondents dinner,
3:29 Blake Nef uh insisted he he wrote back again,
3:32 "This is just all uh" Blake Nef wrote,
3:35 "Instead of posting deranged rumor mongering at 7 a.m.
3:38 on a Sunday morning,
3:38 have you considered that you could look this up or use your brain?
3:42 White House correspondents dinners are all held by press outlets.
3:45 Everyone else is there by invitation.
3:47 How do you even know he was offered a plus
3:49 one?" Andrew lives in Phoenix and has three children.
3:52 How do you know his wife would want to fly
3:54 5 hours across the country to attend one dinner?
3:58 Okay.
3:59 So strong.
3:59 I I by the way have never heard that Andrew Kovette is divorcing his wife.
4:03 Uh like I said, bit of an aggressive response for a divorce rumor,
4:07 which I I literally think this happens like
4:09 once a week when you're in the public space.
4:11 me regarding that.
4:13 I'm just forever amazed at what Turning Point USA and their execs choose
4:18 to respond to and the more important things that they remain mum on.
4:24 Okay, like I said, apparently it was Project Constitution who
4:27 sourced this rumor and they were happy to respond to it,
4:30 which means that they do not view
4:32 him as a psychopathic knife wielding subway killer.
4:36 So, they responded, right?
4:38 because it has been according to our count
4:40 and I now have I'm keeping the count here on our desk 39 long days since we
4:46 reported that donors who were present in Aspen assert
4:51 that the audio which was shared by Turning
4:54 Point USA of Charlie saying I appoint my wife
4:57 to run Turning Point USA if something happens
5:00 to me she'll do a great job was faked.
5:04 This is what they are saying.
5:05 I'm reporting that they they are saying that that was faked.
5:08 It never happened.
5:09 Charlie never said that.
5:09 And Turning Point for some reason is refusing to drop
5:13 the video of that moment saying this of Charlie saying this.
5:16 They're also refusing to even respond authoritatively.
5:20 They could simply respond and assert that it absolutely
5:23 was not faked and that the donors are lying.
5:25 Their donors are lying.
5:26 Big donors are lying.
5:28 That feels a little bit suspicious to me.
5:30 In fact, Blake has specifically expressed concern.
5:34 You will recall that if they do drop it, people will say it's AI.
5:38 Wow, that's an oddly specific concern that you have about dropping this video.
5:46 And I got to tell you, the more I listen to it, the more AI it sounds to me.
5:51 Take a listen.
5:53 A lot of organizations and groups,
5:54 as soon as a founder leaves, it just kind of collapses.
5:57 A lot of my job is not always in the day-to-day details.
6:01 It's very much vision casting, very much driving success,
6:06 but we have a great board and god forbid if something happens,
6:08 they'll figure it out.
6:08 I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA.
6:10 If something happens to me, Erica would do a great job.
6:13 I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA.
6:14 If something happens to me, Erica would do a great job.
6:17 I appoint my wife to run Turning Point USA.
6:19 If something happens to me, Erica would do a great job.
6:23 It just doesn't flow when you hear it.
6:25 And it's also remarkably formal.
6:29 I appoint my wife if anything should happen to me.
6:31 It's like exactly the sentence that he needed to say, he said.
6:34 Not just like, "Oh, Erica can do it." Yeah.
6:37 I mean, she'd be great at that.
6:38 Whatever.
6:39 Hopefully, we don't have to think about that question until down the line.
6:42 But it I appoint my wife to run Turning
6:44 Point USA in the event that anything happens to me.
6:47 We would like a response on this.
6:49 Are the donors lying?
6:51 It's a possibility that for some reason
6:53 the donors are conspiring to lie about this moment.
6:55 A simple yes or no would do as a starting place, right?
6:59 I think that would do just as a starting place.
7:01 Yes, they are lying.
7:02 No, they are not lying.
7:03 And the video, which I would like to point out,
7:07 Turning Point USA mentioned this video to us.
7:10 Erica herself told Megan Kelly an emotional story about what
7:14 she felt like watching that video for the first time.
7:16 The video of Charlie choosing her, violating suddenly
7:21 his every public statement and sentiment that he
7:24 had ever expressed in the past about
7:26 women working complete 180 from his prior positions.
7:32 Please just drop the video.
7:33 It's all we ask.
7:34 And we're asking politely, by the way.
7:36 And now we've learned even more interesting information because it turns out we
7:40 can now definitively state that Turning Point
7:42 does use AI voices for their presentations.
7:47 You will recall in Aspen, Charlie was presenting to donors.
7:51 And it turns out that Marcus Wada, we introduced you this guy.
7:55 This is this is uh the Turning
7:56 Point employee that's a rehabilitated former arms dealer.
8:01 Okay, a former arms dealer who now works for Turning Point.
8:04 This is a thing.
8:05 A lot of them become pastors.
8:07 They find God and they find turning point like at almost the same time.
8:11 And Marcus Wada, one of the things that he offers is um that he
8:16 uh is able to create these AI voices for them to use for their presentations.
8:21 So AI technology is what they currently
8:24 use to voice over their turning point presentations.
8:27 And typically I am told they use the voice of pastor John Aman Chuku.
8:33 So, if you're at a Turning Point event and you're
8:35 hearing a presentation and you hear a guy speaking over,
8:37 you're actually hearing Pastor John is not
8:40 actually recording that, they're manipulating his voice,
8:43 I'm sure, with his permission uh to speak over in the presentations.
8:47 They're they basically take someone's voice and turn it into a narrator.
8:50 And that is, by the way, unique.
8:52 So, it is an entirely reasonable question to ask.
8:57 Was the same thing done for Charlie postumously?
9:01 And I want to tell you the reason why we are going to continue to ask
9:04 this question and why I'm keeping
9:05 this on our our desk now uh is because it's crucial.
9:09 It's actually a crucial question.
9:11 I'm starting to already see the creep
9:13 of people who are trying to downplay the significance
9:16 of that moment right people pivoting to well
9:19 even if it is AI why does it matter?
9:22 I saw this uh this is just one example of it but John Mappen who is the person
9:26 who introduced Charlie to actually his biggest donor Charlie's
9:31 biggest donor was introduced to him by John Mappen.
9:33 A donor so big that that donor was first in line on a list
9:37 of donors who received personal phone calls
9:39 from the hospital the day that Charlie died.
9:42 And John Mappen was similarly told he shared this on X
9:46 that a donor who was at that Aspen event said it never happened.
9:50 Okay, it never happened.
9:52 So this is going around and when John Mappen shared that information,
9:56 he was met with a response from Kimberly Clay, she wrote this question.
10:00 If the board elected Erica Kirk to be the CEO and none
10:04 of the donors have come forward questioning the decision, why does it matter?
10:08 The donors that contacted you are more
10:11 than capable of contacting Blake, she continued.
10:14 Okay, so I can answer that.
10:15 I can answer why it matters.
10:18 It matters because if it was in fact an AI audio and Erica was
10:25 referring to an AI video clip which they in the end decided not to use.
10:31 This would tell us exactly who and what Erica Kirk is.
10:35 Okay.
10:35 It would put to rest any lingering questions
10:39 that some people may have in the background if
10:41 we are able to determine that she colluded
10:43 to create a fake AI voice of her husband.
10:47 announcing her to take over his company.
10:52 If she was even emotionally capable of this a mere
10:56 weeks after he was horrifically and publicly murdered.
10:59 If she was capable of then sitting across from Megan Kelly and spinning
11:03 a tale about her having seen this video
11:06 and what it represented to her emotionally.
11:09 uh a video which was never recorded because it never
11:12 occurred to justify her taking over the company that he built.
11:17 And if Erica was then able to shamelessly walk out to the sound
11:23 of a voice of her husband which she knew was doctorred by AI, right?
11:29 Passing the torch to her.
11:31 the company is mine at Amfest.
11:33 While she wore glittering pants,
11:35 glittering pants suit and had fireworks going on behind her, she knew
11:39 this was all AI and they planned this moment to make people feel emotional.
11:45 Then we would have our answer.
11:47 Erica would be a confirmed ruthless psychopath.
11:52 Okay?
11:52 You know that psychopath brandishing a weapon uh that Blake's concerned about?
11:56 That would be Erica.
11:57 Erica would be the kind of person that if you see on a subway,
11:59 you should move if you're capable of that because that would
12:02 mean she was void of any and all human emotion.
12:05 Cap capable of I am being clear.
12:06 I am not being dramatic.
12:07 If this turns out to be real, I would assert that she is capable of real harm.
12:13 She is dangerous and I would extend that to every
12:17 person around her who approved that monstrous plan.
12:21 So that would be Blake Nev, Andrew Kovette.
12:23 we would be looking at a a psychological profile of people
12:27 that I would suggest are very much capable of coldblooded murder.
12:32 Okay, in my opinion that this is my opinion,
12:35 I am asserting that if you have the ability
12:37 to do that, that's not just like, oh, husband died.
12:40 I wanted to sign some papers and steal the will.
12:42 It's like, how can we sell this to the public?
12:44 We can create this AI video.
12:45 You need to go out and sell this to Megan Kelly.
12:48 Say, say you saw the video that it, you know,
12:50 you were pulled by it and then you're going
12:52 to go out and we're going to have Charlie say it,
12:53 but we can't show the video because the AI tech is not at the right place yet.
12:57 So, it's a little glitchy.
12:58 So, we can't show the video, but like as long as people hear his voice,
13:01 they're going to be moved to tears and then we're going to bring
13:03 out Nicki Minaj and this is going to be your moment, baby.
13:05 So, make sure you have all that glitter and sparkles.
13:07 If she was able to do that, truly take
13:13 a second here to just just consider that in your mind.
13:17 If we find that out, confirmed this is AI.
13:21 What does that signify about Erica?
13:23 Signifies that she had that meeting that it
13:26 took place and she was able to stomach it.
13:28 She was able to stomach hearing her husband's voice intentionally manipulated
13:32 after he was ruthlessly murdered and she thought, "Okay, he's dead.
13:35 What can he do for me?" Uh,
13:37 we can use his voice to have him hand over the company
13:39 so people will not blink and they will not ask questions.
13:42 There was no reason to do it.
13:43 Like I said, that's what's even scarier.
13:45 the only purpose was because she wanted
13:47 people to accept her moving into his position.
13:53 And it's becoming increasingly likely that that is the circumstance.
13:56 Um it, like I said, would be beyond anything we've ever seen,
13:59 a real life horror movie if it proves uh to be true.
14:03 And I have to say, I do not believe
14:06 there is any upside to the donors lying to me.
14:11 I don't see the upside.
14:13 They loved Charlie.
14:14 They went there.
14:15 They gave it their money to Charlie.
14:17 They don't need to be a part of this story.
14:19 What is the upside for donors to come forward and to say,
14:22 "Candice, keep pressing.
14:24 This did not happen." And I am certain it did not happen.
14:26 And it is terrifying me that you're saying that they're
14:30 out there uh telling people that this happened in Aspen.
14:35 So, you take your chance.
14:36 You You guys can take your bets on whether you believe Blake Nef
14:39 and his uh Subway killer scenario as the reason they won't release the video.
14:43 Anyway, moving on from that, a fun update.
14:45 Um, Erica Kirk is maybe she's now Dr.
14:48 Erica Kirk.
14:50 I I I know she said that she wanted to go home.
14:53 She says a lot of stuff.
14:54 She says a lot of stuff.
14:55 She's in drapes.
14:56 Nobody knows why.
14:58 Uh, she told us that she was going to take some time to be with her family.
15:01 Then she came in dressed like Janet Jackson.
15:03 She yelled at me.
15:04 She yelled at Drewuski.
15:05 She yelled at you for the fact that she had
15:07 to go confront the wine bottles that were on the table.
15:10 and then like I'm taking a break,
15:12 but then actually now she's not taking a break again.
15:14 It's a quick break and she's back.
15:17 She's always back very quickly and we're probably going to get yelled at again
15:20 that she had to even go get the speech done uh for Hillsdale College somehow.
15:25 It's it's always different.
15:26 Era can do whatever she wants and we're just sort of left here holding the bag.
15:30 She went to Michigan to Hillsdale College to deliver a commencement address.
15:35 Okay, it's her prerogative.
15:36 I think we're all adjusted to this new program
15:39 of Erica can do whatever she wants and simultaneously she accepted
15:42 a postumous doctorate degree for Charlie uh honorary doctorate and also
15:48 an honorary doctorate for herself and I want to be clear
15:52 that people that are on the left and have been enduring
15:56 people on the right saying DEI DEI people should not be
16:00 hired on the basis of how they look they should not
16:03 receive achievements it's a regular beat and I do believe that.
16:06 By the way, I am a I am a full I'm anti-Dei as well.
16:10 Um, but they're on the internet and they have something to say about it.
16:13 The internet is saying this is stands against everything that you guys preached.
16:18 Why is she getting an honorary doctorate?
16:20 What has she accomplished?
16:21 And I'll let you I'm just going to read one of these tweets.
16:24 This is written by someone named Brian Allen.
16:25 I don't know who this is, but uh they wrote Hillsdale College,
16:29 one of America's loudest opponents of DEI,
16:32 just gave a woman an honorary doctorate and commencement
16:35 speech opportunity because of who her husband is.
16:39 That is the definition of DEI.
16:41 Diversity, equity, and inclusion for me and not for thee.
16:48 So, conservatives, I hate to call balls and strikes here,
16:53 but like, yeah, that's right.
16:56 That that's that is actually the very definition of DEI.
16:59 I I when people have someone come and give a commencement address,
17:03 that's usually not the circumstances that you
17:05 give someone an honorary doctorate for.
17:07 Fair.
17:09 I don't mind it.
17:10 I get it.
17:10 Like I said, I'm adjusted to this new program that she can
17:13 do whatever she wants and they're just going to keep handing her stuff
17:15 and she's just going to become more and more accomplished and people
17:18 that are calling this out and saying she's not qualified for this.
17:21 Welcome to the program, ladies and gentlemen.
17:23 Virtually Erica's entire educational background
17:26 has sort of just been fictionalized.
17:28 And when people began pointing this out, we got yelled at.
17:31 This is just part for the Erica course.
17:33 We keep being told it doesn't matter.
17:35 Her husband died, right?
17:37 She told the uh when she was trying out
17:40 for the American race with her ex-boyfriend, she never said,
17:45 you know, she never had a boyfriend before Charlie
17:46 in the 5 years before Charlie, but she did.
17:49 And when they were trying out for the great American race,
17:52 in the video that she submitted,
17:54 uh she said that she graduated from ASU Magnaumloud.
18:00 Years later, uh she would edit that credential.
18:03 She just kind of upgraded it on her LinkedIn page when she
18:07 wrote that she graduated sumokumloud right with a double degree I should
18:12 mention you can take a look at this her LinkedIn page
18:15 in political science and international relations
18:18 this is this is the old LinkedIn
18:19 page it since has been removed turns out she didn't graduate magna
18:24 cumloud and she also didn't graduate sumakumloud she didn't graduate with any
18:28 honors and she did not graduate with a double degree that was
18:31 all just made up for funsies and she's put it on bios.
18:35 So, this is not like, oh,
18:36 this was one mistake and I had an intern that typed a button wrong.
18:39 It's been put on bios.
18:40 In fact, ASU did not even offer
18:43 the international relations degree um at all in 2012.
18:48 Baron Coleman, some other people online dug up the um dug up
18:53 everything from the past to see if the catalog even offered it.
18:56 The answer is no.
18:57 So, she just made it up and we're not allowed to ask questions.
19:00 Not the only thing she made up.
19:02 pull that up again.
19:03 You will also see on her LinkedIn that she has doctor
19:07 of education that she received
19:09 that in Christian leadership from Liberty University.
19:12 That is factually untrue.
19:14 That's made up.
19:15 She took a a couple of credits toward that goal, but she never accomplished it.
19:21 Just a couple of credits toward the goal
19:23 when her and Charlie were together and then
19:25 she decided that was enough and she could
19:26 assert that she had this doctor of education.
19:29 She doesn't.
19:32 Our fault for noticing, our fault for fact-checking her background at all.
19:36 How dare we?
19:37 Her husband died.
19:38 Um, and she's allowed to compulsively lie about everything all the time.
19:43 And if you are a person that thinks, hey,
19:47 if you have a profile of an individual who compulsively lies about everything,
19:52 that person should probably not be put into a leadership role.
19:55 If you feel that way, you're the monster and you're demonic.
20:00 There were so many holes and so many lies
20:02 in the Erica Kirk background and story that we had to choose.
20:07 We had to like think about editing.
20:09 How are we going to tell the Erica Kirk
20:10 story when we did Bride uh Bride of Charlie?
20:13 We had to just leave a lot of them.
20:14 Okay, we're just going to let her go with that lie.
20:16 We never even covered that.
20:18 the whole educational background is made up virtually the entire I mean she did
20:22 receive her masters um from Liberty University
20:24 online but she just keeps adding credentials.
20:26 So I say more power to her.
20:28 I think we should call her Dr.
20:31 Erica Kirk.
20:31 I think we should lean in to the absurdity um
20:35 of of where we're at right now as a society
20:37 where everyone can see what she is and apparently
20:41 she's a part of the elite class of people.
20:43 Let's call it the Epstein class of people who just don't have to answer.
20:46 There's no consequences for anything and they
20:48 can make us the bad guys for noticing.
20:50 So, I salute you, uh, Dr.
20:52 Kirk.
20:52 We'll be back after a brief break.
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22:45 Okay, so I have been trying to stress to you
22:47 that we are kind of barreling toward a society of makebelieve.
22:51 It's very scary.
22:53 Actually, if you just pause for a second and consider it,
22:56 it's very strange that they're trying to see if they can
23:00 sort of force us to believe things that are just not so.
23:06 And they become angry and they become insisted and they
23:08 spend more money and they're just getting influencers that go out
23:11 there and they're I I just I mean I felt
23:14 this way by the way when the transgender thing was happening.
23:16 I was very vocal against this.
23:17 It's like there there's a difference between a woman and a man
23:20 and they just kept pushing it and pushing it and pushing it and it's
23:23 like you can you know wear the clothes that you want to wear
23:26 and feel how you feel but there is such a thing as reality.
23:30 Okay.
23:30 And now we've moved away from that becoming a social issue and it
23:34 was always you know obviously political
23:36 but we're starting to see this in politics.
23:38 We're starting to see them and and that of course is the example with Dr.
23:41 Kirk and her entire background, which makes no sense.
23:44 Where the entire world notices is that this is
23:46 this is what the Erica Kirk story feels like.
23:48 It feels to me if you're a conservative,
23:50 like it felt when we were going through the transgenderism
23:52 argument where we all know that this is not right.
23:55 So maybe some people are pretending to be nice.
23:57 It's actually a perfect analogy here.
23:59 A lot of people who I know who initially were like,
24:02 "Yeah, let's support transgenderism.
24:04 It's not because they believe it.
24:05 They just were like, "It's just nice.
24:06 It's a nice thing to do." Right?
24:08 I would say a lot of lefties find found themselves in that category.
24:11 That person feels that way.
24:12 Let them feel that way.
24:13 And it's the same thing with the Erica
24:14 Kirk story where they're just ignoring the facts.
24:17 They're ignoring all the lies.
24:18 And they're just like, well,
24:19 it's just nice because her husband died that we shouldn't even
24:22 consider uh whether or not she's lying about things or whether
24:25 or not she's helping to cover up certain things that would
24:27 help us solve the mystery of um how her husband died.
24:30 And she's not acting right.
24:32 She's not acting like a grieving widow.
24:35 I'm going to give you another example of this.
24:37 Like recently, this Nick Shirley guy, this thing that is going on, okay,
24:42 it's now getting weird enough that I do feel the need to comment and weigh in.
24:45 I didn't even know that this is like
24:48 this was a beef that I accidentally stumbled
24:51 upon that people were saying like he's
24:53 this the term that they use here is fed jacketed.
24:56 Like essentially he's being created by the media.
24:59 There are a lot of people that are like that.
25:01 I would say Barry Weiss is a perfect example.
25:03 like we all know she's not qualified uh to be an executive at CBS.
25:07 They just don't care.
25:08 She they're just there you go Barry Weiss.
25:10 And this Nick Shirley thing is one
25:11 of the weirdest non-beefs that I have ever had.
25:13 So I'm going to back up here and say I do
25:16 did not follow at all the quote unquote rise of Nick Shirley.
25:20 He's 24 years old.
25:22 Um it was if I recall like very quickly after the Charlie Kirk assassination.
25:27 He was sort of introduced first on the Charlie Kirk show on the day he died.
25:30 Remember we covered that.
25:31 That's the reason I covered him on the show on September 10th
25:33 when I was trying to work through timelines and I made a mistake.
25:36 Um, and I completely owned that mistake and had
25:38 a conversation with him uh right after the Charlie Kirk assassination.
25:42 Uh, suddenly I was not emotional emotionally available
25:45 to look at other topics to cover other topics.
25:48 I was not interested in other trends.
25:50 And suddenly we have this this kid 23 years old I think he was last year
25:55 and they say Nick Shirley has uncovered massive
25:58 welfare fraud in the Somalian community in Minnesota.
26:01 Okay.
26:01 A friend of mine just got shot in the neck.
26:03 Don't really care to follow the story.
26:04 Daycare fraud.
26:05 Great.
26:06 Thumbs up.
26:06 Did not peak beyond that at all.
26:09 Um I didn't I want to be perfectly clear, perfectly clear here.
26:12 I did not watch or read even one minute of what he uncovered.
26:16 So color me completely ignorant of the welfare fraud story in Somalia.
26:19 Just being honest with you,
26:20 I didn't have it in me then and I just truly did not care.
26:24 Okay, so then fast forward to me mentioning Nick
26:27 Shirley on the show and I was like, "Okay,
26:29 who is this guy?" And I was quite stunned that there was this video out there
26:34 of him saying that he like broke into infiltrated
26:38 the most dangerous gang in Brazil in 48 hours.
26:43 Like that's so objectively stupid and ignorant.
26:46 You have to be so ignorant to even believe it.
26:48 That should just be a headline that your brain automatically rejects, right?
26:52 A 23-year-old kid absent any connections infiltrated a gang in 48
26:56 hours is like they are they are trying you right now.
26:59 That they're not even trying to give us like good slop anymore.
27:04 Like we're we're beneath the level of fed slop with this, right?
27:07 It's just stupid.
27:08 It's nothing personal, Nick Shirley.
27:10 It's just dumb when you hear it that a person
27:14 infiltrate a 23-year-old kid and I did say a white
27:17 boy for a reason which I will explain infiltrated
27:20 the most dangerous gang in Brazil by himself with cameras.
27:23 Okay.
27:24 Anyway, uh Nick Shirley after I said this on my show the next day it was
27:27 like trending and all of these people the people I trust the least by the way.
27:31 I mean like Tim P, everyone's like writing these statements like Nick Shirley
27:35 got punched in the face by me because I I'm not an idiot.
27:38 I don't have to look deeper into that story.
27:40 It's obviously objectively on its face untrue and made up.
27:42 I don't know if it's for entertainment.
27:44 I don't know if it's for funds.
27:45 I don't know the purpose of making up something like that.
27:48 I've just lived a little bit of life and know that that's not how it works.
27:51 And so PBD, who has just been sort of taking
27:55 swipes at me for like since Charlie Kirk died,
27:57 you know, he notoriously hosted the person who said
28:00 I didn't speak to Charlie uh since, you know, 2019.
28:04 We hadn't spoken.
28:05 We were at war with each other.
28:06 Whatever.
28:06 I don't care.
28:07 Uh, you know, it's just add it to the pile of people
28:10 who are are constantly just making little snide comments on me.
28:13 But Nick PBD, who was one of the people
28:16 who issued a kind statement about Nick Shirley because gasp,
28:19 Candace doesn't believe that he infiltrated a gang in 48 hours,
28:23 hosted him on his show.
28:25 And they show the clip of what I said and PBD's pretending he had no idea.
28:31 He completely already knew I said this.
28:33 Even the whole little scene you're gonna
28:35 watch between them is just so contrived.
28:37 It just bothers me on a level of why do we have to live in this soap opera?
28:42 Why are we all Sim characters?
28:44 Who is pulling the strings?
28:46 Anyway, I want you to listen to this conversation that they have.
28:51 Who in the market is supporting you?
28:53 Who in the market is criticizing you
28:55 that you're surprised on the conservative side?
28:59 Are there people who are like, "Nick, go.
29:01 You're doing great." And then there's people that are like,
29:03 "Yeah, I don't know if I like what he's doing."
29:05 Candace Owens came after me uh a while back.
29:08 That was very interesting.
29:09 Why would Candace Owens come after you?
29:11 I don't know.
29:12 She like didn't believe my Brazilian FLLA video and
29:16 Oh, it's not even the So, you're talking this was a couple years ago.
29:18 No, this is like recent.
29:20 She's like white boy.
29:22 I'm like it was very like snarky of her to do this.
29:27 Interesting.
29:28 This is it.
29:30 Yeah.
29:32 But which video is that?
29:34 Is that a recent video from last summer?
29:36 Just going to say I don't believe that at all.
29:38 I'm sorry.
29:39 I just I I just It's so stupid.
29:40 I'm not even going to tell you why I don't believe it's like it's like
29:42 if you don't know that that's stupid that he infiltrated the gang in 48 hours.
29:48 Like it's just that's so dumb.
29:49 I'm so tired of dumb.
29:51 That's not how that works.
29:52 Okay.
29:52 You don't just go up to gangs on the street
29:55 as a nicel looking white boy with a camera and say,
29:57 "Hey, I just wanted to sort of like see what you're doing here.
29:59 What's going on?" Okay, that's just stop.
30:01 That's stupid.
30:02 Of course, that's dumb.
30:03 I'm sorry, Nick.
30:03 I know you're young.
30:04 I hope you know, whoever is your contact that has you infiltrating
30:07 Antifa and infiltrating El Salvador at the age of 23 years old.
30:11 It just feels like Sean Penn Young to me.
30:15 Meaning your your handler or you're representing somebody.
30:18 She's basically saying that's fake.
30:20 She's saying that's fake.
30:21 And I'm like, well, maybe these podcasters
30:23 would actually leave their podcast studios.
30:25 No offense, Pat.
30:26 that they'd leave their podcast studios and go and like do journalism.
30:29 Like they'd actually see like stuff just sometimes just happens.
30:34 It was that last part that really sent me cuz it's just so lol.
30:37 And then this whole like oh why don't you try
30:39 to do real journalism and and like leave your basement from podcasting.
30:43 Alex Clark kind of backed this up
30:44 too because like she can't miss an opportunity.
30:46 Turning point can't miss miss an opportunity because I think
30:49 I took from them what they believe is rightfully theirs.
30:51 Uh but she wrote this.
30:52 Nick Shirley is a real journalist.
30:54 Candace Owens is not.
30:55 Oh, okay.
30:56 So, we're in a podcast.
30:57 We're in the basement.
30:57 Hey, Nick.
30:58 So, the reason why we know that that doesn't make
31:00 sense actually is because you have to be the most
31:04 sheltered person in the world to even have to to need
31:08 it to be explained to you why that's not plausible.
31:10 Okay?
31:10 It's not about it's not a job, okay?
31:12 People just live in these scenarios.
31:15 People like literally I have five year five-year-olds in my family who have seen
31:20 more and lived through more than you've
31:22 probably ever lived through in your life.
31:23 the circumstance itself did not happen.
31:25 And I I cannot tell you how much it frustrates me that you're pretending
31:29 that I'm coming from a position
31:30 of privilege when it's actually the exact opposite.
31:32 You couldn't do this in Chicago.
31:34 You couldn't do this in Detroit.
31:36 Forget in a favlla in Brazil,
31:38 places like that, which I have Brazilians in my family.
31:40 You don't even go to parts in Brazil without having
31:43 someone who is from that place and from that neighborhood.
31:46 Uh so no, it's not about podcasting in my basement.
31:49 I actually lived a lot of life, Nick Shirley,
31:51 before I got to podcasting in my basement,
31:53 before I was married, before I had children.
31:55 In fact, I moved down to South America
31:58 for two months to learn Spanish with very strict instructions.
32:01 The school that I enrolled in, don't wear any jewelry,
32:04 don't don't wear any makeup, don't look American.
32:06 You don't just go down there, as I said,
32:09 and why I'm pointing out the fact that you are a white boy,
32:11 is because you don't look like them.
32:13 The whole idea when you're down there is
32:15 to blend in, not to come with the camera.
32:17 a Mormon kid from Utah with a camera.
32:20 Hey, what's the most dangerous game in this f in this fabella?
32:23 Can I infiltrate in 48 hours?
32:25 It just didn't happen.
32:26 It didn't It didn't even kind of happen.
32:29 And any, like I said,
32:30 you have to that could only work you'd have to sell this to billionaires, right?
32:35 You could only make people who have never touched their own door handles.
32:39 Like you'd have to grow up like Paris Hilton and go
32:42 somewhere where Nick Shirley is and he tells you about
32:44 how he infiltrated Fabella and she would think that that's plausible
32:47 because she's never even been to like a dangerous gas station.
32:50 That's how fake that is.
32:51 Like there are gas stations on the New
32:54 Jersey Turnpike that people you couldn't infiltrate.
32:57 You couldn't buy a bag of chips and feel safe.
32:59 Okay.
33:00 and you're trying to tell us that you're just
33:02 a 23-year-old kid who infiltrated a favlla in 48 hours.
33:05 I don't need to pierce be beyond the layer.
33:07 I've just lived these things.
33:09 I've lived these circumstances and so have the majority of people.
33:12 And so I don't understand the purpose of Nick Shirley.
33:14 I didn't know there was this huge scandal.
33:16 I then sub subsequently found out that people,
33:18 you know, think he's fed jacketed.
33:20 I wasn't trying to hit upon that.
33:21 I just watched the video and had a reaction
33:23 to how stupid it was that they're trying to sell it.
33:25 They're not even giving us good scops anymore.
33:28 They have such low respect for us.
33:30 Um you you couldn't go to trailer parks and do that.
33:33 There are certain trailer parks, a lot of them,
33:35 that you couldn't go through and do that.
33:37 Like you would get harmed.
33:38 And by the way, it's irresponsible to suggest
33:40 to 23-year-old kids that they can do this.
33:42 I actually find it to be irresponsible.
33:45 Like yeah, you want to be like Nick Shirley,
33:46 you can just go down with the camera, no connections, and you know,
33:50 you'll suddenly arrive and be welcomed into a gang.
33:54 They'll be holding guns and you're perfectly safe.
33:55 He's just that amazing.
33:56 His words are just that gentle and just that kind.
33:59 I pointed out that you would have obviously stood out, Nick,
34:03 as a white boy walking through a fablla with a camera.
34:06 They would look there's just a certain natural thing that happened.
34:10 You stand out uh in the jungle.
34:12 Oh, this does not look like someone that should be here.
34:15 You could say the same thing if you if you put any person uh you could if
34:19 you put a a gangster rapper and you put them up in the sub suburbs where they
34:24 haven't seen a person with melanin in over
34:27 a century they go that person is standing out
34:29 there with their uh jeans down low maybe
34:33 you know below their butts or something like that.
34:35 You just would look odd and you it is the exact opposite of anybody
34:39 who has lived and been around these areas you know that you don't do that.
34:43 It's just it's a basic survival thing.
34:45 You don't do that.
34:46 Um I I have family reunions Nick Shirley couldn't infiltrate and survive.
34:50 That that's just the reality.
34:51 Like so this whole like tough boy because they don't leave their basement.
34:55 You sound sheltered.
34:56 You sound sheltered that you think that because I
34:59 podcast today that I didn't live a lot more yesterdays.
35:03 Uh way more aggressive yesterdays than you've ever lived in your entire LA life.
35:07 That's why I laughed, Nick, because it's so implausible that you did that.
35:11 And the other thing that I want to add here is just more broadly speaking,
35:15 I don't know why they're doing this now.
35:17 It's and I do think we're getting to this sort of stage of idiocracy.
35:20 Whether we're talking about the Erica Kirk thing,
35:22 everyone can see that that is so painfully and obviously untrue.
35:25 whether we're talking about the Nick Shirley thing.
35:27 It's like they've calculated to a point where they should should just be able
35:31 to with x amount of dollars with this amount of influencers and with this much
35:35 power behind a a political party whether
35:38 it's we're going to get Trump to support
35:39 this person or you know we're going to get Camala Harris to support this person.
35:44 It's like an equation that they're just
35:45 like this equals success and we're rejecting that.
35:50 We have to hold on to common sense.
35:52 Like, we all just have to know that Nick
35:55 Shirley did not infiltrate a gang in 48 hours.
35:57 We all just have to know that it is not normal for a woman whose husband
36:02 was assassinated in broad daylight to 6 days
36:05 later be on a Zoom call laughing about emojis.
36:09 Like, we should all say, "Nope,
36:11 doesn't pass the sniff test." And I'm just not going to have you explain to me.
36:15 I'm not going to like make you like pretend
36:18 that this is some sort of controversy because I have common sense.
36:21 They're trying to make it illegal to think
36:24 like it's illegal to just know things spiritually, instinctively, intuitively.
36:30 Doesn't pass the sniff test.
36:31 And I just feel like we have to hold firm on that.
36:34 So I don't need mean to use Nick Shirley as an example.
36:36 I don't care uh to further wade into the controversy of people
36:41 who are talking about his background and saying that he's been created.
36:45 I tend to just look at how people react when I point
36:47 out the obvious to know that he's got some backing behind him, right?
36:50 He's up here crying about a little remark about Fabella.
36:54 Like, okay, it didn't happen.
36:56 So, take that or leave that.
36:57 He is being pushed upon us for some reason.
36:59 I don't know what that reason is.
37:00 Uh, by the way, he's now going to be going to Cuba, guys.
37:05 No connections.
37:06 He's just going to Cuba.
37:07 Um, claims he he went to Cuba.
37:10 He was almost taken hostage.
37:11 Man, this is the bravest kid in the entire world.
37:14 And of course, this headlined from yesterday.
37:17 Will the US invade Cuba?
37:19 Uh it tells us that spy flights there are surging.
37:22 There are new sanctions and we all know
37:24 the CIA is involved in Cuba at this moment.
37:27 So I don't find the timing of Nick Shirley.
37:30 I I find everything about him to be suspicious.
37:32 I would say to everyone look at these videos with some
37:35 degree of caution because that none of this is natural.
37:38 Uh neither is like the fake feain surprise of PBD.
37:42 I'm so surprised that Candace came after you.
37:44 Like completely ridiculous.
37:45 Anyway, we'll take a brief break before I get to some of your comments.
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39:51 I should also be clear that when we're
39:53 using the term we say someone's fed jacket,
39:55 it doesn't mean that this person is a Fed themselves.
39:58 It just means that they clearly have connections with the government
40:02 and they are being sort of just kind of put upon us.
40:04 They're hoisted upon us.
40:05 We don't really know why.
40:07 And I would just say that that's just common sense.
40:10 It doesn't pass the sniff test for me.
40:12 And I'm just going to hold that opinion.
40:13 I'm not going to investigate.
40:14 I'm not passionate about Nick Shirley.
40:15 It was such a nonite item on my show that the fact
40:18 that he's like trying to extend it into some beef is ridiculous.
40:22 The fact that it was even trending after I said it.
40:24 Like like I said, the people we trust the least all being like,
40:27 "He's the most amazing thing.
40:29 I can't believe he had to survive someone saying that he
40:31 didn't go to a favlla." That in of itself feels inauthentic.
40:35 that just that's not a normal way to react to someone saying,
40:37 "Yeah, don't buy that one." Um, and like I said,
40:40 I wasn't aware of the history of people who
40:43 had gone after him and showed whatever the connections were.
40:45 And I don't plan on investigating it.
40:47 I just don't care enough onto bigger things, uh, more important things,
40:50 like I said, which for me is the Charlie Cook assassination.
40:54 A top comment from last episode.
40:55 Fran Ban writes, "I think Erica hit the sixth stage of grief,
40:59 which is bridal shots." Yes, you guys, I think we're with me.
41:03 just very confused about why she was in the drapes.
41:06 I don't know what was going on.
41:07 I know that I couldn't do that when I was a kid.
41:09 My mom would say, "Get out them drapes right now." Um,
41:13 she just did that or whatever and I it was very bridal and next thing we knew,
41:18 like I said, we were being shouted at.
41:19 Alex B writes, "I desperately need an Erica Kirk South Park episode." Yes.
41:24 Oh my, that would be amazing.
41:28 Obviously, we would get in so much trouble.
41:32 so much trouble.
41:34 But it I think it's worth it if we are in trouble.
41:36 We're already in trouble all the time with the mainstream media.
41:39 So, uh that might happen.
41:40 Like I said, Charlie would have laughed at that stuff,
41:42 but we see that Erica has taken the Truski skit deadly serious for some reason.
41:46 Um and for the record, people that were trying to turn that into something
41:50 racial like Andrew Kovette now do like black conservatives.
41:56 He does every race.
41:57 If you know Drewuski's skits, he makes fun of Vietnamese people.
42:01 He dressed up like he was Vietnamese person, did this whole nail salon thing.
42:04 So, it's this it was not because of her race that he did that.
42:08 And just last week, he dropped a massive video where he was targeting
42:12 black British actors and it was hilarious and we just laughed at it.
42:15 So, I hate to see that the right has
42:17 become the things that we hated about the left,
42:20 like not able to just take a joke on its face.
42:22 Nobody got hurt in him mocking Erica Kirk.
42:25 Uh clearly she got her feelings hurt,
42:27 but it's because she takes herself apparently uh
42:30 way too seriously or maybe she was just
42:31 promised that she would be protected and she
42:33 would everyone was just going to love her.
42:34 And I think she's quite surprised that the opposite
42:37 thing um seems to be what they accomplished.
42:39 And the reason for that is because
42:40 she just comes across as inauthentic and dishonest.
42:43 Um and they have no response for all of the various lies,
42:47 inconsistencies, um inaccuracies that we have pointed out.
42:51 They just keep saying demonic.
42:52 Send out the pastor.
42:53 Send out the pastor to tell them it's demonic.
42:54 It's demonic.
42:55 No, lies are actually in fact satanic.
42:59 Satan is the author of lies.
43:02 So if you're looking to people who have been telling
43:05 the truth or people who are trying to get at the truth,
43:07 and I will say, do we make mistakes sometimes?
43:09 Absolutely.
43:10 But at least we have it in our heart that when we do those mistakes,
43:13 we course correct, we apologize, and we move on.
43:15 You guys are on a level of arrogance uh that when
43:19 you get literally just caught lying, you yell at us.
43:23 you she doesn't show up to an event and you have JD Vance lecture us.
43:26 Get out of my face, JD Vance.
43:28 I'm sorry.
43:29 I actually really disliked him after that.
43:31 I'm like, he's sitting up here on the stage yelling at us because she
43:33 doesn't want to go to the event because no one wants to hear her speak.
43:36 Like, that's so backwards and so abusive and narcissistic to do that to people.
43:41 You You want to make commitments.
43:42 You wanted to be Charlie Kirk so bad that you
43:44 allegedly made a whole AI video saying your husband wanted you.
43:48 And we all deep down spiritually know that that is untrue.
43:51 Okay.
43:52 Charlie didn't change his mind two weeks before he died.
43:54 We know what he thought.
43:56 We have hours and hours and hours and hours
43:58 of footage of Charlie Kirk saying women should stay home.
44:01 You wanted to put on your big girl glitter pants
44:03 and and take his role and be CEO and chairman.
44:06 Well, guess what?
44:07 Life's tough.
44:08 Get a helmet.
44:09 Okay.
44:09 No one feels bad for you because you have to deal
44:11 with criticism that Charlie had to deal with for the last 10 years.
44:14 And he took it gracefully.
44:15 He fought.
44:16 He answered the questions.
44:17 He allowed people to go through his life.
44:19 I've had to do the same thing.
44:21 Nobody's crying uh crying for me when I'm my family's
44:24 getting attacked and all of a sudden you just think
44:26 that what this was supposed to be uh I dub
44:29 the Erica Kirk the CEO of Up Turning Point USA.
44:32 Nobody asked any questions.
44:34 What is that?
44:36 Wrong country, sweetheart.
44:37 No.
44:37 Uh we don't we don't do the king and queen Idubbbz the stuff here.
44:41 So if you can't take the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen, Erica.
44:45 That's just the reality.
44:46 Just get out of the kitchen, step down,
44:48 go away, and pretend to be a grieving widow.
44:50 that works for everybody.
44:53 Anyway, uh a little too fired up here.
44:55 I'm going to move on to your comments from today's episode.
44:58 We have uh Bill K writes, "Chris is king,
45:01 Mary is queen, and Candace is a princess.
45:03 Happy late Mother's Day." Thank you so much.
45:05 No, the only princess in this house is my daughter.
45:07 She's definitely a princess.
45:09 Um yeah, she's just working me these days, man.
45:11 You just It's so fast how clever they are.
45:13 They just know what to say to get what they want.
45:16 I am being outworked by toddlers over here.
45:18 Moderator Marzy writes, "Hey Candace, I know you are covering Nicely today,
45:21 but I wanted to let you know that the quartering
45:23 has messed with you on X and is now facing
45:25 a potential lawsuit involving false flagging and deplatforming other YouTube
45:30 channels as well as for doxing and harassment." That's very interesting.
45:33 I did not know that.
45:34 Um I will look into that.
45:36 I had no idea.
45:37 I Who is suing him?
45:38 I know nothing about that.
45:39 I just read these comments live, so I wasn't expecting that one.
45:42 And I have I can't really add anything
45:43 to that, but I thank you for giving me that tip.
45:45 Um Mrs.
45:46 MPK writes, "What's your response
45:47 to reporting that during your private interview,
45:50 Erica Kirk gave you Brian Harpole's alibi for the alleged Fort Wuka sighting?
45:54 Did you ask Erica for her alibi during your meeting?
45:57 Um, ops doing the most.
45:59 This merits clarification." Yeah.
46:00 No, absolutely.
46:01 Uh, she gave me the I thought it was very strange.
46:04 So, my thought process just to remind you guys and you'll see this all because
46:06 this is going to come out in the filings and I actually am thinking about
46:09 doing the Brian Freriedman thing uh which
46:11 was um obviously of a lawyer Blake Lively
46:13 Justin Baldoni where he just put it all online because I have nothing to hide.
46:16 So, the timeline on that is when I had received the email from Mitch or email
46:21 it was Mitch's friend that emailed me and I called him and he said his story.
46:25 He was clear that he saw Brian Harpole and he saw Erica but he
46:28 said he saw Erica Kirk on the ETH and she wasn't leaving a meeting.
46:33 Uh Brian Harpole he saw on the 9th
46:35 and he was leaving the meeting on Fort Wuka base
46:37 and that was when the cops were called all
46:39 of that and I you have to remember like
46:43 at this particular time I didn't suspect Erica and I
46:47 felt like she was under a lot of like
46:49 pressure and I didn't want to unnecessarily put a spotlight
46:54 on her because he saw her at a hotel.
46:56 It wasn't related to the meeting.
46:57 He didn't see her with Brian and I knew
46:59 that her mom and her stepdad have contracts with the government.
47:04 So there's a thousand other reasons that she could have been
47:06 at the Fort Wuka Air Base that were not, you know, weird.
47:11 So I made the decision when I first presented the story,
47:14 which was absent before my interview with Mitch.
47:16 So I basically first told Mitch's story um his entire background
47:19 and then I said and he says that he saw Brian Harple.
47:22 If you go back and you watch that, I
47:24 said he saw Brian Harpole on the ninth, right?
47:26 removed Erica from it entirely instantly.
47:29 The next day, Erica did went on her tour,
47:32 the stop tour, and Erica suddenly was very panicked about this.
47:36 So, it's almost to me like she knew that if we got Mitch onto the show,
47:41 he was going to tell the other part, which was that he saw Erica.
47:43 Like, there was some like she did it was the uh not the five,
47:47 the Harrison, what is her name on Fox News.
47:51 I'm totally blanking on her name.
47:52 If you guys remember it, tell me.
47:53 Uh uh Harrison Falner was her is her name I think.
47:59 Yeah, she went on Harris Harris Falner, sorry.
48:02 Harris Faulner.
48:03 She went on that show and then she was all fired
48:05 up for the first time and like conspiracy theories need to stop.
48:08 That was the very next day.
48:09 So I was like that's interesting because we didn't mention the Erica part yet.
48:12 Does she know something that like it felt weird?
48:14 Then the day after that she did Barry Weiss and they cut the clip
48:18 of her saying what do you have to say to the podcaster Kenneth Owens?
48:21 I then would later find out that they had
48:23 planned that the question answer segment and she's like, "Stop.
48:26 Just stop." Then I get Justin Strife.
48:27 That backfires.
48:28 Justin Strife emails us and we're off for the weekend
48:31 cuz I said I'm going to interview Mitch next.
48:33 I had said that.
48:34 I get Ian Carol calling me and he's got Paramount tact I mean uh
48:38 Valhalla the YouTuber Green Beret basically already
48:41 threatening me like don't don't interview Mitch.
48:45 That was what was coming up.
48:46 I was I wanted to interview Mitch as I said um or else he's going to sue.
48:49 So, I'm getting threatened with a lawsuit before I even interview Mitch.
48:52 And I'm like, "Dude, what's up?" So, I message Brian Harpole and I'm like, "Hey,
48:56 like I'm gonna have this guy Mitch on, but like we could I
48:59 could also like if you want to debunk it, I'm happy to do.
49:01 I don't know this guy." But this reaction doesn't feel organic to me.
49:05 Like, everybody seems to be panicking and I haven't yet had Mitch on.
49:09 He doesn't answer.
49:09 So, I'm like, "Okay." Then Erica comes and we sit down.
49:13 They scheduled it for Monday and you'll remember.
49:16 So, they were still thinking I was going to have Mitch on my show.
49:19 Then they scheduled it during the block where I would normally have my show.
49:22 They said, "Let's have a ceasefire.
49:23 No one's going to talk." And then they hosted Paramount Tactical,
49:26 basically trying to debunk me on the show while I was in a hotel for 4 hours.
49:32 And I thought it was very odd that she said
49:34 to me that they were very upset with Brian Harpole,
49:38 that they were not they had a communication breakdown with him.
49:41 They never authorized him to go on the Shawn Ryan show.
49:44 But then she handed me an alibi for him.
49:46 I'm like, why are you concerned about his alibi?
49:49 You're not talking to this guy and you're going to fire Brian Harpole.
49:52 Why are you concerned about his alibi so much that you're handing it to me?
49:56 Right?
49:57 And then we look at it.
49:58 I looked at it and I said, "Oh,
49:59 this actually does not cover the time period that Mitch said he saw him." So,
50:03 at that moment, I'm not saying to her anything that he saw you too,
50:07 but I'm paying attention to her behavior.
50:10 Right at that point, she had already told me a couple of lies.
50:12 So, I was on the like, "Okay, let's go easy." Clocked her on a couple of lies,
50:17 but I didn't want her to stop talking.
50:19 And she sort of just sat up and handed me Brian Harpole's flights,
50:22 which were for 1:49 p.m.
50:24 on the 9th going to Utah.
50:26 And I said, "This doesn't cover the time period.
50:28 So, this is not this doesn't actually debunk anything." And she said,
50:31 "Oh." I thought that's weird cuz I'm you're not talking to Brian Harpole,
50:36 so what's up with this?
50:39 You know, then after all was said and done and and then Justin asked me,
50:43 "Are you going to still didn't mention it to her and then Justin asked me,
50:48 uh, when is your show off air?" Because we were coming up against Christmas.
50:50 And I was like, "Well, in a couple of days,
50:51 actually." And it was almost like they just kind
50:54 of wanted to get me not to interview him.
50:57 And then I interviewed him.
50:58 I did it on the 18th.
50:59 I was like, "I'm going to do this." Because I messaged Brian Harpole.
51:03 Erica didn't give me an alibi for him.
51:05 And I allowed Mitch to tell a story.
51:07 And he said that he saw Erica on the ETH
51:10 and what happened thereafter was we were threatened literally threatened.
51:16 I mean when you see these messages that Valhalla was
51:19 sending about how I would be ruined he explicitly says
51:23 we're going to ruin her by being like if she
51:25 does not like basically revoke her commentary about Fort Wuka,
51:30 we're going to basically bury her in everything Mitch has done in his past.
51:33 I'm talking to his ex-wife.
51:34 I'm like, what is why are Valhalla and Paramount Tactical?
51:38 Then they called Mitch and they tried to play good cop.
51:41 They were like, yeah, brother.
51:43 Like, we'd love to have you on the show, fellow Green Green Beret.
51:47 But they were saying that I made up that he they
51:49 were telling me the opposite or trying to tell me the opposite,
51:51 that this was a case of stolen valor.
51:54 I went, "This is really weird.
51:55 Who's directing these two people?
51:57 Who's directing Paramount Tactical and Valhalla?" And then lo and behold,
52:01 the answer came when accidentally Paramount Tactical read Erica's
52:08 alibi um live on his show when it said,
52:12 "Please don't share." And then what was stranger is that the kids in the photo,
52:15 he's like, "These are her kids.
52:17 She was walking with her kids." I didn't even share
52:19 the fact that I knew that that was not her kids.
52:23 Well, guess what?
52:24 Guess who just admitted that, guys?
52:26 Paramount Tactical.
52:27 He says, "Okay, fine.
52:28 They have now just admitted over the weekend that the boy
52:32 in the Fort Wuka alibi photo is not Erica's,
52:35 which the internet immediately clocked.
52:37 Okay, if you have kids, you know, you're not looking at a 16-month-old.
52:40 I think that's how old um their son would have been.
52:44 This is giant child.
52:46 And I had someone very close to the family
52:48 say that's not either of the children, actually.
52:51 So, at least we now have Paramount admitting that the alibi that was given
52:55 in which Andrew explicitly states she was with her kids as he sends the photo.
53:01 Don't share those are not her kids.
53:05 Maybe it's Gigi.
53:06 I don't know.
53:07 Person that knows them says it's not.
53:10 But we now have confirmation that it's not the son.
53:13 So, so much weird stuff happened.
53:16 And then to realize that Andrew was coordinating that was trying.
53:19 He was the one coordinating these like YouTubers,
53:22 Valhalla and Paramount Tactical.
53:24 What's weird about that is they were in communication with me.
53:26 Erica and I had just sat down.
53:28 So they could have just texted me and said, "Hey,
53:30 just so you know, I saw that you mentioned uh whatever.
53:33 Here's Erica's alibi.
53:34 Here's where she was.
53:35 Um she was she was not at Forta.
53:38 She was here." They didn't do that.
53:40 They went behind the scenes.
53:42 And I will clock another lie.
53:44 It was after Erica told me that they were getting rid of Andrew Kovette.
53:47 So, Andrew Kovette has been doing her dirty work.
53:49 She's obviously got caught red-handed working with Andrew Kovette
53:52 to get this out through this obscure YouTube channel,
53:54 this alibi after she told me that they had hired Crisis
53:59 PR and they were moving Andrew out of out of PR.
54:02 I can't remember if said they were going to fire him,
54:04 but I certainly know that she said they
54:05 were moving him completely off of PR full stop.
54:07 And they had stopped using him because he had been an unmitigated disaster.
54:11 That was when she was lying about uh Andrew went rogue.
54:13 Andrew went rogue.
54:15 So, when you have this many lies that are being told about
54:18 something that I was pretty much like less than 50/50 on, genuinely,
54:23 I I obviously fact checked enough to know that Mitch was there.
54:25 He had the videos.
54:26 I had his hotel reservation.
54:28 I had um I had confirmed with a source that his ID tags were real,
54:33 the military ID tags.
54:34 He had sent me so much overwhelming proof that he was there.
54:37 Um, when you have that sort of a reaction,
54:41 it doesn't make you think the person was not there.
54:44 So, they took me from being 40, 60, maybe even 30, 70,
54:48 like I believe Mitch was there, but like he could just have a weird memory.
54:52 They could have literally said, "Oh, it must have been a lookalike.
54:54 It wasn't Erica or Brian." They did way too much.
54:59 And the amount of times that Brian Harpole lies in this lawsuit on its
55:04 face to me does not make me think he was not at Fort Wuka.
55:08 Him saying Candace had his alibi, they know that is objectively not true.
55:12 They know that his flights on the 9th were for 149 p.m.
55:17 from Dallas to Salt Lake City.
55:19 So why are they why would you put that in a filing?
55:22 Why are you saying he went on Shawn Ryan
55:24 because of the grief that I put him through,
55:26 knowing fully well that I never mentioned him on my show until post Shawn Ryan?
55:31 These are lies.
55:33 He's lying in a court filing.
55:35 So what this does not make me feel I I am not here today going, "Well,
55:39 now that he's filed this lawsuit,
55:40 I believe him." For the first time, I messaged him four times.
55:44 I now believe Brian Harpole was not at Fort Wuka.
55:46 It's the It's actually the opposite.
55:48 The filing to me feels like Blake Lively.
55:52 feels like Blake Lively's filing.
55:53 It's meant for PR.
55:55 It is not based in truth.
55:57 They still have not provided any receipts as to his whereabouts
56:00 on the morning of the 9th and I look forward to getting them.
56:04 Anyway, um that was a you got a lot more than you bargain
56:07 for with that, but I guess I had to get off my chest.
56:12 Um AJ Gans writes, "Hillsdale College,
56:15 objective objective truth or willful blindness?
56:18 How disappointing.
56:19 I I can tell you that I knew that she was going to speak there.
56:22 I had so many students messaging me that were upset about it.
56:24 It's not who they had imagined their uh commencement address would be given by.
56:28 Arkansas, Kansas, writes,
56:29 "I have this sick feeling in my gut that they are going
56:31 to say that Tyler Robinson contracted the Haunt virus before the trial begins.
56:35 I think that nothing can happen to Tyler Robinson.
56:41 If like if that happens, it's going to be terrible for Erica.
56:45 It's going to be terrible for Turning Point
56:47 USA." um they better keep him the healthiest.
56:50 I would say that would be my suggestion,
56:52 but these people never do the thing that's right.
56:54 Um so we'll see what happens, but I I don't think that that's likely.
56:59 Uh Ally writes, "Wouldn't the best way to honor your husband's
57:02 legacy be to oppose the Iran war and support Thomas
57:04 Massie or to cozy up to his bullies and ignore
57:07 that he was changing at the end?" You're doing that thing,
57:10 Ally, where you're the common sense thing.
57:13 People don't like that anymore.
57:15 We're living in Makebelie.
57:17 That's the common sense.
57:18 Yeah, you uh you should you should hate
57:20 the people that were bullying your husband extra.
57:23 You shouldn't be teaming up with them.
57:24 But that's not how Erica lives.
57:26 Not the amazing, remarkable Erica Kirk.
57:29 Not the magnificent Dr.
57:30 Kirk.
57:32 She's like something else.
57:35 Jane writes, "Love from the UK.
57:37 Christ is king and genocide is always wrong.
57:38 Go Max." Still haven't changed my stance on that.
57:40 It's aging like fine wine.
57:42 Christ is king.
57:43 Genocide is always wrong.
57:46 It feels okay.
57:47 Good black girl writes, "New merch, please.
57:49 Life's tough.
57:50 Get a helmet." I think we actually have that merch on the website.
57:53 Um, I'm pretty sure.
57:56 Let's see.
57:57 Let's um check that out on the website.
57:59 We have some new merch.
58:00 No, I we had it at some point, but maybe we should get that back up there.
58:03 Anyway, speaking of which, here's some new merch that we do have on the website.
58:08 Um, we have some great stuff.
58:11 We've got the Candace Unchained stuff, uh, Unchained stuff.
58:14 that's there uh which is we've got a lot of great merch right now actually
58:18 the he David is absolutely crushing it in merch so if you'd like to support us
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58:28 guys that we are starting the new book on the book club my book I'm super
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58:34 on Amazon wherever you buy books uh but this is my baby so if you have
58:40 considered yourself to be a feminist in the past
58:41 for all the reasons that I considered
58:43 myself to be a feminist when I was in I challenge you to read this book.
58:46 Where my lefties at, my lefties who watch the show,
58:48 I challenge you to read this book with us in the book club.
58:52 Uh, sign up and join us for um, Friday.
58:56 I love the book club and I keep forgetting
58:58 that we have to do Could you just remind me to message David that we need to do
59:00 book club merch like I need just anything, you know?
59:04 Uh, okay.
59:05 Anyway, you guys, that is all that I have to say today.
59:07 I completely overanswered that question,
59:10 but I just want to take you guys through it.
59:11 I do think we are going to do a website so you guys can read the documents
59:13 yourselves and read all the messages and the timeline
59:16 that I created of how everything went down.
59:18 I am still very suspicious about Fort Wuka.
59:21 Um, and I think you should be too.
59:23 Let me know how you feel.
59:24 We will see you guys tomorrow.