Bossman Dlow: Chicken Talkin Bastard, Songwriting & Tour | Ebro Interview

0:00 Boss man D load just stepped into the Ebro show.

0:03 What up, sir?

0:04 What's going on?

0:05 Hey, man.

0:05 Second sit down.

0:06 New album.

0:07 We back.

0:08 Walk like, talk like.

0:10 Listen.

0:11 Um, loving the music on this goround, bro.

0:14 Yes, sir.

0:14 Yes, sir.

0:15 I appreciate it, bro.

0:16 No, you you um have not lost a step yet.

0:20 Can't do that.

0:21 You came out the gate firing.

0:24 Yeah.

0:24 Still firing.

0:26 Um I I would love to hear from you.

0:28 I mean, when you out here getting this music together, cuz musically I feel like

0:33 you ain't, you know, you still picking the right things.

0:37 Yeah.

0:36 So, is that you all you?

0:37 You got a team that helps you pick.

0:40 What's the What's the recording process?

0:44 Um, it's a little bit of a little bit of both, I'd say.

0:48 Yeah.

0:48 Sometimes I get help, you know, but I ain't going to lie, I write all my music.

0:51 Yeah, I know that part.

0:52 But I mean the beats though, the m the the actual selection of the

0:56 Yeah, my team they they kind of send me beats that they you know

1:00 I already think that I would I kind of make it a little easier.

1:05 Is there uh I've always wanted to ask you this.

1:07 I didn't I meant to ask you this last time we said that.

1:10 You talk like one of my You rap like one of my uncles talks

1:20 where like it got like a like it's always like it's kind

1:23 of like a question but you talking greasy at the same time.

1:27 Yeah.

1:28 Um

1:28 did that come from somebody in your like when you was coming up?

1:30 Was it OG's around your way that kind of had that little slick talk to it?

1:34 Is that what originated your style?

1:36 I was like everybody like all my homeboys like older than me,

1:41 you know what I'm saying?

1:42 Like

1:43 so the people you hung around was already on that

1:45 people hang around 10 20 years older than me.

1:47 Like

1:49 so

1:49 I don't know.

1:50 They just always taught us like get money like you know what I'm saying?

1:54 Yeah.

1:54 Get that money.

1:54 Keep that motion.

1:55 Yeah.

1:56 That's that's the coolest thing out here.

1:58 That's you know what I'm saying?

1:59 That's right.

2:00 You um have so many amazing features on this Chicken Talking project.

2:04 Chicken Talking Bastard.

2:05 Where'd you come up with that title for the album?

2:08 Oh,

2:08 cuz you you you definitely always talking

2:10 about your chicken and getting your money.

2:12 You know, you know how that chicken go.

2:13 But as far as your chicken

2:16 when I when I when I made that chicken talking bastard like the actual song.

2:21 Yeah.

2:21 That's when I'm like, I ain't going to lie.

2:22 I'm just going to name the whole tape.

2:24 They saying you got the song of the summer and the summer hasn't started.

2:30 Do you agree?

2:33 Hey, but that's what they saying.

2:34 That That's what they say.

2:35 Y'all behind the

2:38 Better go listen to that tape.

2:40 That what they better do.

2:41 We go listen to that chicken talk.

2:43 I'm fast.

2:44 Now, have you ever actually thrown a motion party where the guest list,

2:49 you got to have motion.

2:52 Your your algorithm got to be popping.

2:54 Hell yeah.

2:55 You you got to have some You got to have money.

2:57 You got to have certain money.

3:00 Is there an official motion party?

3:02 I say my birthday bash in Orlando.

3:05 We ripped the hell

3:08 motion.

3:07 We ripped it.

3:09 Motion period.

3:12 Period.

3:12 Lying around the block.

3:14 Everywhere on every block.

3:18 What's your What's your on the cover?

3:19 Is that your car?

3:21 Nah.

3:21 Nah.

3:21 It was already there when I got there.

3:23 That ain't my car.

3:24 Are you a car guy?

3:26 Not like old school.

3:27 I'm more I ain't going to lie.

3:29 I'm more of a new up like a foreigner.

3:32 Yeah, I'm up to date foreign type of guy.

3:34 You got any

3:37 couple?

3:37 It's all right.

3:39 They all right.

3:40 What you talking about?

3:40 What you talking

3:42 sometime?

3:42 You know

3:42 about that culling?

3:44 Yeah, I got I got the black badge.

3:48 Okay.

3:47 But you know, you get a car and then the 26 came out

3:52 and then the 27 came out and you get the 28, the 20.

3:56 You know what I'm saying?

3:57 Yeah.

3:58 It's just a car to you.

3:59 a car.

4:00 Now, do you flip your cars?

4:01 I only have one car, so I'm really just asking questions.

4:04 I used Do I Do I sell them?

4:05 Like, do you keep it for two?

4:07 Like, I don't keep my car longer than two years.

4:09 Yeah.

4:09 Yeah.

4:09 Yeah.

4:09 That's probably what what I'm on.

4:11 That's what I'm Yeah.

4:12 Yeah.

4:14 But I had them a year so far.

4:15 So,

4:16 are you um I mean, now,

4:18 let me go into your profile on Apple Music here with Boss Mano on Apple Music.

4:24 New new album out.

4:25 Uh Chicken Talking Bastard.

4:27 The the the features are phenomenal.

4:30 G Herbo, that ain't easy.

4:32 Facts.

4:33 Love G Herbo.

4:34 Trey Songs, the baby.

4:38 The OJ the Juice Man.

4:40 That big dog status.

4:41 That got me hyped when it came out.

4:43 I thought that was a good You knew him or y'all just connected recently.

4:47 Had you known him for a while?

4:48 I I ain't know him, but I used to always be on, bro.

4:52 You know, bro, take me through the trap.

4:54 Yeah.

4:55 So once I got down hit, bro, up like, "Hey,

4:59 I'm want you on this." But he like, "Shit, let's do it." Say, "Yeah."

5:04 Yeah.

5:04 Now OJ the Juice Man ad libs is when you hit

5:08 that mailbox when you know what I'm saying cuz you writing.

5:10 So I know you're publishing.

5:11 I know you're getting that money with with your songwriting.

5:15 Yeah.

5:15 You know what I mean?

5:15 And that's one of the things in hip-hop too.

5:17 I don't think gets enough attention is the real writers.

5:23 Yeah.

5:22 The people that's really writing this.

5:23 They definitely got to give them people they real credit, bro.

5:28 Cuz that's that's creativity for real.

5:31 You know what I'm saying?

5:33 Not saying that the people, you know, that's,

5:36 you know, getting their songs written, not creative, but it's like

5:39 it's different.

5:40 It's different.

5:41 Yeah.

5:41 For somebody to sit there and actually take their time and come

5:45 up with it on their brain and, you know what I'm saying,

5:47 create a song from scratch.

5:49 Put something in the universe that hadn't been heard before.

5:52 Exactly.

5:52 All them songs you just named, it's from scratch.

5:54 That's me being drunk.

5:57 Yeah.

5:57 You know what I'm saying?

5:59 Yeah.

5:59 Me being high, just chilling.

6:02 Talking with your friends, talking

6:03 That's it.

6:04 talking.

6:06 Um, did you ever think that talking was going

6:08 to pay the bills like it's paying right now?

6:10 No sir.

6:12 Absolutely not.

6:13 When you was in school,

6:14 was you you was the type of kid that got in trouble for playing too much?

6:18 A lot.

6:19 A lot.

6:20 Talking too much.

6:21 My mama tell you that right now.

6:23 Just playing clowning referral suspension just don't stop.

6:30 And now look,

6:33 all that talking paid off, mom.

6:35 You got my You was able to get moms a crib.

6:38 Hell yeah.

6:38 Come on, man.

6:39 One of the first things I did.

6:40 There you go.

6:41 There you go.

6:42 Crib cars.

6:42 You got all that.

6:43 I just don't post all that You know what I'm saying?

6:46 Yeah.

6:46 That's how people get to praying on your downfall, too.

6:48 You show them too much.

6:49 No.

6:49 Yeah.

6:49 You can't show them too much.

6:50 For sure.

6:51 For sure.

6:52 Then people be going, you know, they got room to talk about this and that.

6:56 All of you been I ain't know that.

6:58 Are you your rap styles?

7:01 We was talking before we got going cuz you got patterns.

7:04 Like I I don't know if uh MC's and rappers

7:08 are paying attention to what you're doing, you know,

7:11 cuz I don't really I you know, look,

7:13 there's a lot of artists out here that's putting out recorded material

7:17 and I don't it's not everybody I'm sitting with.

7:19 Yeah, cuz some people is doing the same thing as the next cat is.

7:22 You know, it's like Yeah.

7:23 Yeah.

7:24 I ain't really got nothing to talk.

7:26 I've always been intrigued with you,

7:27 which is why this is our second sitdown of how you're approaching rapping,

7:33 the the the the patterns you use,

7:36 the space that you give in a record to just let it breathe.

7:40 Like you don't like I can hear when you punch in.

7:42 I can hear when it's all like, "No, I'mma just do this as a straight take.

7:47 Ain't no punchins.

7:48 I'mma just let it breathe and I'mma

7:51 the different pockets you choose rhythmically, you know, all of that.

7:55 I'd love to hear you as a hip-hop fan,

7:58 as somebody who grew up studying this to whatever degree you did,

8:02 like who were you first inspired by to put pen to paper?

8:08 Like the first the probably the first artist

8:10 that I listened to ever was probably like Whiz Khalifa,

8:15 like Lil Wayne, you feel me?

8:17 Yeah.

8:17 Yeah.

8:18 But it's like where I came up with mine is

8:23 just cuz all that you just named that's very important.

8:27 You know what I'm saying?

8:28 Pockets in the beat everything matters.

8:32 You know what I'm saying?

8:32 So, but really what I get mine from just researching everybody.

8:41 Mhm.

8:40 Like every artist.

8:42 Like I don't want to My biggest thing is

8:44 I don't want to sound like none of y'all.

8:46 You know what I'm saying?

8:47 Yeah.

8:47 I don't want to sound like nobody.

8:48 So that was like my biggest thing was I don't want

8:52 to sound like nobody and I'm going to be talking about emotion.

8:58 Mhm.

8:58 You got to like be catchy.

9:00 You know what I'm saying?

9:00 Like Yeah.

9:02 Cuz you got hooked.

9:03 Like music supposed to be fun.

9:04 Music supposed to is supposed to, you know,

9:06 people supposed to want to recite it.

9:08 It's supposed to be fun.

9:10 People supposed to want to sing your songs loud.

9:13 If you rap it too fast, they can't catch it.

9:16 You know what I'm saying?

9:17 And if you're using these diabolical ass words,

9:20 they ain't going to catch it either.

9:21 You know what I'm saying?

9:22 It's too damn long.

9:25 I don't know.

9:25 That's just me, bro.

9:26 No, no.

9:26 That's real.

9:27 You got lyrical rappers, bro.

9:28 You can go listen to them.

9:30 You know what I'm saying?

9:30 That's right.

9:30 That's right.

9:31 Other people is for other people.

9:32 That's right.

9:33 Well, I think that's the beauty of hip-hop.

9:36 Facts,

9:36 right?

9:36 The beauty of hip-hop is you could say, "Look,

9:38 I want to be in this super hyper lyrical box.

9:41 I want to be in this lane.

9:43 I want to be in that lane.

9:44 And then there's some people who maybe want to jump.

9:46 You got your options.

9:47 You got You got

9:48 Wayne will do it all.

9:49 Wayne will be, you know what I'm saying?

9:52 You can go listen to your R&B.

9:54 Yeah.

9:54 You got options, bro.

9:57 Yeah.

9:56 You can't expect one artist to sound like, you feel me?

10:01 You can't expect one artist to sound like NBA Young Boy Usher and Kendra Lamont.

10:05 You feel me?

10:06 He only going to sound like whoever he is.

10:08 You know what I'm Well, but also too, what I'm hearing you say is you

10:11 specifically understood your assignment and you carved

10:15 out what was best for your voice and what you was trying to do, right?

10:19 Um, how much hitting and missing,

10:22 you know, or how much missing did it take to get to the

10:25 to the sound that we hear today?

10:27 I first tried to I first tried the rapping at like in 2019, bro.

10:34 I ain't see no results.

10:37 Like like I I ain't get first of all I

10:42 ain't get a paid show until from 2019 to 2024.

10:50 So five it took five years to get $2,500 paid back from the rap game.

10:56 Yeah.

10:56 Imagine how much I done spent.

10:57 You know what I'm saying?

10:58 Like I don't went to prison and all about rapping.

11:01 Like I was on probation rapping.

11:04 The police ain't like me just from, you know what I'm saying?

11:07 What I'm talking about.

11:08 You know what I'm saying?

11:09 I'm trapping.

11:10 I'm talking about it.

11:10 They want me off the street.

11:16 Like it's going to be a lot of hit.

11:18 It's going to actually be more misses.

11:20 You know what I'm saying?

11:23 Yeah.

11:21 But when it start hitting hidden facts.

11:26 Um I want to talk about uh uh Mr.

11:28 tendonism and and y'all linking up and and and that relationship

11:32 cuz I thought that was dope, man.

11:33 You making sure you looked out.

11:34 You know what I'm saying?

11:35 That was real dope.

11:36 Uh this OJ the Juice Man though, let's get this on.

11:39 Even that third verse, right, tells me you study hip-hop and music.

11:46 I'mma give you some sauce, right?

11:51 This what everybody out there too.

11:53 Like now we talking motion, right?

11:57 You see how I said like I when I once I realized like the music ain't for me.

12:05 You know what I'm saying?

12:06 Like it ain't for the people.

12:07 Yeah.

12:07 It's for them.

12:08 So it's like you notice how I said I can't fit all of this in no wallet, boy.

12:15 You know what I'm saying?

12:16 When I first said it like drunk, I said some like,

12:21 you know, like I can't fit 250k in no wallet, boy.

12:26 But everybody ain't got 250k.

12:28 So I'mma say I can't fit all of this.

12:29 So really anybody can say that.

12:31 You got thousand ones, hundred ones.

12:34 You know what I'm saying?

12:35 Whatever it is.

12:36 Yeah.

12:36 Like you just got to know how to put it put it in use for everybody.

12:41 You feel me?

12:42 There you go.

12:42 Think about others.

12:43 Yeah.

12:43 Facts.

12:44 Think about others.

12:45 Facts.

12:45 Um on that.

12:46 Um that's oneonone sauce right there.

12:48 That's a lot of sauce I just dropped by.

12:50 He trying to give you the motion.

12:52 He putting you on.

12:55 Um, Walter Johnson, Mr.

12:58 Tendonism, uh, we going to play the record with you and boss man P on here.

13:05 Um, you showed a lot of love to, bro, to the to to Mr.

13:08 Tendonism.

13:10 Yeah.

13:10 Um, and you know, and the reason I bring it up is because, you know,

13:12 there was all this on the internet about the pl

13:14 the place they I don't know the name of the restaurant, but Yeah.

13:18 Yeah.

13:18 where he was at.

13:19 And then the the the white folks that owned it was basically, you know,

13:24 jealous of of the of the motion he was getting

13:27 that motion to do it now.

13:29 And then and now he's not there.

13:30 But I see people making sure that he's still getting

13:33 highlighted and still and you were one of those people.

13:35 Yeah.

13:36 And I don't know the whole situation with whatever they got going on.

13:39 But you know what I'm saying from my point of view look

13:42 like aunt moved on and man you need to support aunt man.

13:47 Tendonism out there man.

13:48 Yeah,

13:49 good meat.

13:50 Yeah, good meat.

13:51 And he getting a lot of new

13:52 uh restaurants and endorsements and things like that.

13:55 I I I wish I, you know, I wish I could say that he was all good,

14:00 but like you're saying, let's make sure he's all good.

14:03 Yeah, for sure.

14:04 For sure.

14:04 Cuz it seems like he's getting uplifted

14:06 by the community and that's what you always want.

14:08 Yeah, you got that boy uh Cartel Bo out of uh Texas doing something.

14:13 They shifting for that boy for sure.

14:15 They making it happen.

14:16 There it is.

14:16 Let's get to this tend talking about them quality meats.

14:20 You know what I'm saying?

14:21 Quality meat talk.

14:24 Tenderism got it going on now.

14:27 Yeah, man.

14:27 Quality meat right there.

14:29 We all like it.

14:30 Boss man DLO.

14:31 Boss man Pac.

14:32 Uh tell us about Boss Man Pac on there.

14:35 And and and who is I you know I never seen his name before.

14:38 Yeah.

14:38 Uh you know that's my brother from the trenches.

14:40 You feel me?

14:41 So but I ain't going to lie.

14:43 I ain't going to lie.

14:43 I'm going to say this though cuz you ain't wrong but everybody say Pac.

14:48 It's really pack

14:50 pack.

14:49 It's really pack but it look like Pac.

14:51 Yeah, cuz we we grew up on

14:53 For sure.

14:53 So I see why people would say that first understand.

14:56 But we'll get it right.

14:57 We'll get it right though.

14:58 I just want everybody to know out there.

14:59 It's boss man Pat.

15:00 There you go.

15:01 Uh I want to talk about this G Herbo record.

15:03 Ain't Easy.

15:04 Yeah, I love G Herbo's work as well.

15:07 Uh how did how did you guys link up for this record?

15:11 My label had sent it to Tom.

15:14 And really he really just snapped.

15:16 So I was just like, "Fuck it.

15:18 He owning this bitch."

15:19 So y'all ain't never linked up.

15:20 Yeah.

15:20 No.

15:21 No.

15:21 We got we got video done, Reddit, all that.

15:25 Okay.

15:25 Yeah.

15:25 That my dog.

15:26 I done we done we done met at shows and all kind of though before.

15:30 So Yeah.

15:31 Yeah.

15:31 Good dude, man.

15:32 Yeah.

15:32 For sure.

15:32 And been working for a minute, too, right?

15:34 Cuz I'm sure you seen us come up since he's like 16, you know.

15:39 Yeah.

15:39 But that's you know that work going to pay off, bro.

15:42 Yeah, that work going to pay off.

15:44 Thank you for coming by.

15:45 No, for sure.

15:46 Always showing love to our shows, man.

15:48 Thank you.

15:48 Yes, sir.

15:48 Yes, sir.

15:49 Um, and please, you know, uh,

15:53 the the quality material and the way that I

15:57 could tell you actually love the music making process.

16:00 Yeah.

16:00 You know what I'm saying?

16:00 Never lose that, man.

16:01 No, for sure.

16:02 That's the, you know, no matter where the game goes,

16:06 when you got motion, when the motion slows down, you know what I'm saying?

16:09 And I'm, you know, hopefully you're seeing some of the cast that's been

16:12 in the game a long time when they not at the the highest heights

16:16 and the things slow down a little bit, but the love of the game and doing

16:19 shows and putting out good material, the fans,

16:22 you going to be there for it.

16:24 Yeah.

16:24 Sometime, I ain't going to lie, you know, you have your little days.

16:28 You know what I'm saying?

16:30 Yeah.

16:29 We all human, but hey, it ain't going nowhere.

16:34 There you go.

16:34 It ain't going.

16:36 these uh features you have.

16:37 Trey Songs, the baby.

16:40 Yeah.

16:40 Uh OJ the Juice Man, YK Niece.

16:42 We're gonna get to that.

16:43 Um what's some what's some collabs that you

16:46 would like to see yourself be able to

16:48 and people you'd like to be able to link up with in the future?

16:50 Future project.

16:53 Well, Future.

16:54 You just said it.

16:55 Trying to get bro on one for sure.

16:59 Uh matter of fact, we got something cooking.

17:01 So

17:03 that's a possibility, but we're not going to give too much away.

17:05 Yeah, we ain't going to trip.

17:06 We ain't going to say nothing about that.

17:08 You know what I'm saying?

17:08 But I ain't going to lie.

17:10 Kind of want to like just just how I ripped

17:14 it with Trey songs that kind of make me like Yeah.

17:17 I ain't going to lie.

17:17 That R&B that R&B mix like you can't I don't know.

17:22 I just feel like you can't beat that, bro.

17:25 Yeah.

17:25 That's always been a home run in the game.

17:27 Somebody singing on the hook with that rapping on the Yeah.

17:30 on the on the verse and come back to that.

17:34 Yeah.

17:34 Can't beat that, bro.

17:35 Would you do a full album like that?

17:37 Hell yeah.

17:38 Hell yeah.

17:40 Yeah.

17:41 With male and female singers.

17:43 For sure.

17:44 For sure.

17:46 That sound good, bro.

17:47 I'm going to lie.

17:49 Know it sound good.

17:50 Listen, since since

17:52 since forever, man.

17:53 Hip hop and R&B.

17:54 You know what I'm saying?

17:55 Whether it was R&B singers on hip-hop beats,

17:57 whether it's a rapper on the verse, R&B hooks,

17:59 whether it's a R&B song with a rapper on the on the on the verse, whatever.

18:04 It's going to do it every time.

18:05 It go together, man.

18:06 Ain't no Ain't no hip-hop without the R&B.

18:08 Period.

18:09 We don't We don't have nothing without each other.

18:12 You know what I'm saying?

18:12 I And I love the fact that you open to doing that cuz that Trey Songs is fire.

18:16 That hard, boy.

18:17 That hard, boy.

18:19 Official single with video and all that.

18:21 All that.

18:22 We getting all that.

18:23 We going to get all that for sure.

18:25 Cuz you're before this before we got this album, you had given us eight songs.

18:31 Mhm.

18:31 That why I put 20 of them on that

18:36 Right.

18:35 Cuz you was like, "We going to tour, do shows.

18:39 Y'all going to live.

18:40 We all going to live with this album 2026, right?

18:43 Count on dropping another one in 2026." Yeah.

18:46 I ain't bullshitting, man.

18:48 I had done chilled a little bit because I was just on some other I ain't,

18:53 you know, but nah, I I I drop consistently.

18:57 I don't Yeah.

18:59 How many things you got in the in the bag for the next thing already?

19:08 I ain't going to disclose.

19:10 All right.

19:11 Fair enough.

19:12 Fair enough.

19:13 No.

19:13 No.

19:14 You're right.

19:14 It's the right thing to do.

19:15 It's right.

19:15 But we we everything ready.

19:18 Okay.

19:18 That's good enough.

19:20 I just want to make sure I'm overly ready.

19:22 Do you got show plans?

19:25 Do you like touring?

19:26 I'm going on tour for most definitely.

19:30 Yeah, that raw, bro.

19:31 You love it.

19:32 Hell yeah.

19:33 But I ain't going to lie, be tired as a

19:37 Yeah, it's hard.

19:37 It's hard.

19:38 So, it's like when you get off, you know,

19:40 that's one of them things when you get off tour, you like damn.

19:44 But then when you be, you know, six months off tour, you like,

19:47 damn, I need to go back on tour and one of them type

19:51 You got to be in free.

19:52 Did you ever you you ever played sports back in the day?

19:55 You

19:55 Yeah, I play basketball.

19:57 So that's that's what that's what touring is.

20:00 Touring is like

20:00 Yeah.

20:00 Yeah.

20:01 Yeah.

20:01 It's a workout season.

20:02 It's like a like oh, you know, for the next

20:05 that where I lost my damn weight from that Touring.

20:11 Yeah.

20:11 Cuz you got to be full.

20:12 You got to eat food right.

20:13 You got to get your rest.

20:14 You got to get on stage getting the people to show.

20:16 Yeah.

20:16 Cuz look, if you don't build a touring business,

20:19 you can't just, you know what I'm saying?

20:21 Yeah.

20:21 You can't You can't That's That's the most

20:23 That's the most important part right there.

20:25 You need that.

20:25 That's what's going You know what I'm saying?

20:28 Rocking for 20 years.

20:29 20 years still making money.

20:31 You see uh Juvenile Manny Fresh out here still smacking them.

20:35 Yeah.

20:36 Yeah.

20:38 You see what Hoes just did.

20:39 You know, Jay-Z.

20:40 I mean that's you know you know that's goat though.

20:43 Yeah.

20:44 He getting to it.

20:47 Yeah.

20:46 Hell even Kanye they try to they try to do Kanye dirty.

20:50 He's like yeah watch this.

20:51 He performing on a damn globe or some ain't it?

20:55 Yeah.

20:55 But he was like I can still do these shows.

20:59 You know what I'm saying?

21:00 That's hard.

21:01 You got some cleaning up to do.

21:02 But you know look to be able to get back out here after what he went through.

21:06 Yeah.

21:06 You know what I'm saying?

21:06 And I mean he did it to himself but still it says something about touring.

21:11 No that's how important it is.

21:12 That touring very important.

21:14 Get out here and collect it.

21:15 Got to sell them tickets.

21:18 Yeah.

21:18 Thank you so much for coming through.

21:19 I appreciate you.

21:20 There it is.

21:20 Chicken talking bastard boss man DLO.

21:23 It's the Ebro show.

21:24 Go get the project.