'MAGA IS DEAD': MTG SHOCKING Trump Text Revealed

0:00 So, Marjorie Taylor Greene may be out of Congress,

0:02 but she is not going quietly into the night.

0:05 She recently gave a speech that got a lot of attention down

0:07 in Texas at the Ron Paul Institute talking about her fallout with Trump,

0:11 spilling some of the details about the text messages

0:14 that he sent her and saying that MAGA is {quote} dead.

0:18 Let's take a listen to a bit of what she had to say.

0:20 It was the most shocking thing when I sat in a conference meeting

0:24 and I learned that the president didn't want to release the Epstein files.

0:30 I was like, "What?" Yeah, come to find out he was very much against it.

0:37 So, we kept on trying and kept on talking

0:39 about it and then the president told Mike Johnson, "No,

0:42 do not bring that resolution to the floor for a vote."

0:45 He told the Rules Committee and Johnson told the Rules Committee,

0:48 "No, you will not mark up any bill in the Rules Committee that will

0:52 allow the Epstein files to be released."

0:55 And the resistance built and built and built.

0:58 He told Pam Bondi, "Don't release the Epstein files." He told everybody,

1:02 "Don't release the Epstein files." Well, I'll never forget it.

1:05 I was in my office in the Rayburn Building

1:09 and I got a phone call from the president.

1:11 And he was at the White House and he wanted to talk

1:14 to me about the dish discharge petition that I'd sign my name on.

1:18 And he said, "Marjorie,

1:20 you're going to have to take your name off that discharge petition.

1:23 The these we can't let This is a hoax.

1:26 We can't carry this This is a hoax.

1:28 It's a Democrat hoax.

1:30 And we've got to just put this away and stop doing this." And he said,

1:34 "My friends are going to get hurt." He said

1:38 his friends would get hurt if we release the Epstein files.

1:42 And I've saved these text messages.

1:44 I'd probably get put in jail if I release them publicly, but I saved them.

1:49 Where Donald Trump proceeded to tell me that it was my fault.

1:53 And that I deserve it.

1:56 If my son gets killed, I deserve it because I was a traitor to him.

2:04 That is our president of the United States.

2:07 Oof.

2:08 Pretty [snorts] remarkable stuff there.

2:09 Number one, her saying that he told her overtly, "My friends will be hurt Right.

2:15 if the Epstein files are released." Yeah, and you'll be hurt, too, buddy.

2:18 By the way.

2:19 And then these text messages where she went through,

2:22 you know, "This one was relatively nice to me.

2:24 Susie Wiles didn't even get back to me.

2:26 Trump said you will deserve it.

2:28 You will deserve it." she's told those stories now multiple times.

2:31 They haven't been denied yet.

2:33 Or at least Or maybe they have been by the White House.

2:35 I'd have to check.

2:36 But yeah, just to make clear that, you know,

2:37 that's been out there for some time.

2:39 But She should really I call on her to release the text messages, you know.

2:42 release the text messages.

2:43 I agree.

2:43 I just wonder with her how much What I think

2:48 the big test is the electable conversation around this because,

2:53 look, we're all online.

2:54 We know the MTG conversation.

2:56 But at the end of the day, the Trump-endorsed guy to replace her, you know,

3:00 she resigned and the Trump-endorsed guy to replace her, he won.

3:03 And this is the big test actually is coming soon with the Thomas Massie primary,

3:07 which we really have no idea which way it's going to go.

3:09 The polling remains small.

3:11 Massie has a huge war chest.

3:12 Obviously, I'm pulling for him.

3:14 But I think the bigger meta question,

3:15 especially with Tucker, with MTG, and everything is like,

3:19 "What's the actual appetite for this?" Because Remember

3:21 Harry Enten did some of the CNN polling on Tucker how he has all these net

3:26 favorables have plunged with a lot of hardcore Republicans,

3:29 but at the same time, he's more popular than ever.

3:33 The question is like, "What's the lane for that?" And And I just don't know.

3:37 Like I really am curious.

3:39 I do think it's millions of people.

3:40 The internet is huge, but how does it channel into political energy?

3:45 Like I'll give you a good example.

3:46 Shawn Ryan just had Cenk Uygur on his podcast,

3:49 and I saw the clip where I was like,

3:51 "Oh, no." And Shawn was like,

3:53 "Do we need a new political party?" And I was like, "Oh, no.

3:56 Oh, no." Anytime we I've I've seen it too many times.

3:59 I get it.

3:59 I get it.

4:00 Why everybody wants to go down the road.

4:02 How many We've lived through how many Jill Stein and third

4:05 party and the Andrew Yang and the people that's Guys,

4:09 like the evidence is clear.

4:11 It is what it is.

4:12 You got to take one of these parties and do with it what you can.

4:14 Right.

4:15 Exactly.

4:15 So That's I mean, that's the reality.

4:17 Right.

4:17 But when I start to see stuff like that, you see a lot of angst.

4:20 But then you're like, "Okay,

4:21 but how do we channel this angst into something useful,

4:24 right?" Or into something politically impactful.

4:26 And I mean, obviously, you know, this is My job is the angst.

4:30 I don't know about the channeling,

4:31 but I'm an analyzer of the of the of the of the useful.

4:35 And I you know, I haven't seen it yet.

4:37 Here's what I'll say is I feel like there's sort of a mirror process

4:40 of what was going on leading up to the 2024 election on the right.

4:44 Where you would have these individual people

4:46 who would kind of drift to the right.

4:47 And any one of them you could kind of write off,

4:50 you know, like Naomi Wolf going on Steve Bannon's show all the time.

4:55 Naomi Klein wrote a whole book about like

4:57 the mirror world and her getting confused Naomi Wolf,

4:59 but she went from being this feminist to being this like

5:01 hardcore right-winger and anti-COVID vaccine activist and all this stuff.

5:06 And she's going on War Room.

5:07 You see, you know, RFK Jr.

5:09 is this long-time lefty environmentalist, etc.

5:12 And he's now shifting over to the right.

5:15 And you see, you know, you see these various influencers and sort of you know,

5:20 high-level people who are gradually kind of indulging in some

5:23 of the right-wing language and and showing up on these podcasts,

5:27 becoming more and more amenable.

5:29 Then next thing you know, you have MAGA as a whole thing

5:32 and getting consumed into the Trump Trump coalition.

5:35 And so, at first I didn't take it

5:38 that seriously because any one of these people,

5:40 again, you can kind of like dismiss as a one-off or a crank or whatever.

5:44 But when it all came together, it added up to something real.

5:47 It also up to 51.

5:49 Yeah, and it also added up to a public perception of this side,

5:53 the Democratic side, is losing even some of their stalwart long-time defenders

5:58 to the the right or to the Trump coalition.

6:02 And so it created this sense of like where the vibe in the country was going,

6:06 and it was enough that then Trump ends up getting elected.

6:10 Mhm.

6:10 So, I kind of feel like there's that reverse thing happening right now.

6:13 We've got the Marjorie Taylor Greene who it's she's not becoming a Democrat,

6:17 but she is she spends pretty much all of her time trashing Trump,

6:22 trashing MAGA, like being very aggressively critical

6:25 of the side she used to be part of.

6:28 You see, you know, Tucker who again,

6:30 not a Democrat, but being very critical of Trump.

6:33 Um you can see, you know, the Tim Dillons,

6:34 the podcast bros, like any one of these Shawn Ryans,

6:37 any one of these you could kind of dismiss, but when you add them all together,

6:40 it does create this overwhelming sense of a backlash.

6:43 And then of course you add to that the reality

6:45 of like how bad the situation was with Iran,

6:48 gas pumps, the disappointments on the Epstein files,

6:50 etc., and it does create something real.

6:52 So, if it was just MTG,

6:54 especially now that she's not in Congress, it's like, whatever.

6:56 But especially because, and this is again goes to the Naomi Wolf comparison,

7:01 Bannon loved to build her up as like,

7:02 this is she was an advisor Al Gore, she was a feminist.

7:05 I can't believe she's here agreeing with me now.

7:08 There's kind of a similar dynamic with Marjorie

7:11 where she talked about in a speech she's like,

7:13 I was the biggest Trump cheerleader, I was a Trump soldier,

7:15 I spent millions of my own dollars going out and getting him elected.

7:19 And now if I can see this and I

7:20 can say this, just imagine how bad things have gotten.

7:23 So, that's why I think she's effective.

7:25 very insightful, but see, this is where a real political leader is necessary.

7:29 And when you were talking, I'm like,

7:30 there's only one Democrat who could do that, Ro Khanna.

7:33 Literally, that's it.

7:34 He's the only person who has the at least has the foreknowledge,

7:38 has the leadership on the Epstein issue,

7:40 has the ability to go and to talk to any of these spaces,

7:44 doesn't code as like a you know, horrific shitlib or you know,

7:47 like he he he he he he he he he doesn't code to me as a culture warrior.

7:50 Although I'm sure it's like polar opposite, right?

7:52 But willing to go into various different spaces.

7:55 Somebody like Gavin, I just I could not see that.

7:57 Like you you need The thing What was Trump's ultimate superpower?

8:01 Trump literally convinced people that like millions of people

8:04 that he was going to pay for their IVF,

8:06 which you and I both know, if you believe that, you're a idiot.

8:09 Like [clears throat] let's be honest, right?

8:11 But a millions of people were like, "Oh yeah,

8:13 like he's going to pay for my IVF." So he took that guy,

8:17 some guy who talks about glyphosate a lot, you know, like the glyphosate guy,

8:22 and then a Mitt Romney country club Republican and got all three to vote.

8:27 That's how you win.

8:28 That's a coalition, uh ultimately.

8:29 So your point is is very correct, but No, you're right.

8:33 The opening is there.

8:35 Yeah.

8:35 It's who can pull that together.

8:37 And um you know, I do think

8:39 that especially as the economic situation gets more dire,

8:43 which sadly I think it's going to.

8:44 I mean, even if the Iran war stopped today and the blockade ended,

8:48 we're going to have months of dealing with the fallout

8:50 and things are going to get worse before they can get better.

8:52 And that's just the sad,

8:53 horrifying reality that we're dealing with at this point.

8:57 There is such a wide open lane for someone to come

9:00 in and really care about that like in a meaningful way, care about that.

9:04 And there's also a wide open lane for someone with a clear message on AI,

9:09 which is becoming a deeply disturbing and important issue to people

9:13 and I think is only going to rise in importance

9:16 as the the impacts continue to be felt both locally

9:18 in the community in terms of the like societal fallout.

9:21 It's all there for the taking, but you're right.

9:23 It requires someone who is a leader, who has courage,

9:26 who says things that make sense, who you know,

9:29 is broadly appealing to a a wide swath of people,

9:32 doesn't just code as being of this faction or of that faction.

9:36 And so you know, that is going to be the the question

9:38 mark of whether there's anyone that actually pulls that off.

9:40 I had confidence it would go that direction, but I don't see it.

9:43 I mean, I I hope so.

9:44 Like, I really do for the good

9:46 of the nation because ultimately political entrepreneurship,

9:49 which is ultimately what a lot of people

9:51 thought Trump was doing in 2024, is melding,

9:53 you know, make destroying like old barriers, bringing people into a coalition,

9:59 setting a new political and majority time

10:02 paradigm cuz ultimately that's what it's all about, but it's a tough order.

10:06 The reason why it doesn't happen is cuz

10:08 it's hard and it takes like genuine skill.

10:10 And then you see somebody who could have done

10:12 it and then squander it within what, 6 months?

10:15 And then put the nail in the coffin with the war.

10:18 It should be shocking.

10:19 It really was to see.

10:20 So, I don't know, maybe somebody else could do it.

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