'He's a Weak Man!' | UFC 328 Media Day
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0:00 Well, Hermes, you know,
0:01 they've been trying to keep you guys away from each other.
0:03 You have security everywhere you go.
0:05 Have you seen Sean Strickland at all this week?
0:08 No.
0:08 No.
0:08 Some boy said they see him like uh running away from hotel fast after the media.
0:16 The guy who said like he going to shoot me,
0:19 he going to do this that and I don't know why he's still at other hotels
0:23 and he was thinking like no one going to control me and the guy is not here.
0:29 We control this guy,
0:31 you know.
0:32 Do you feel what made you post the sparring footage yesterday, by the way?
0:36 Why did you post that?
0:37 That was just I find the old video some stuff just
0:40 post that because he's saying like I spar only weak people,
0:44 you know, and on the video we spar easy, you know, like just touch sparring.
0:49 It's not like 100% like usually I do.
0:52 I like because he said he doesn't want to spot hard and when I start to hard
0:58 he was coaching like coach Eric this guy
1:01 starting punch hard you know like he had
1:05 some problems with his coach Eric too because
1:08 I spunch him hard and he was always calling
1:11 him like can you stop this guy yeah but this guy lie so much brother it's crazy
1:19 you think you say he's lying Ask the people who's been in the gym.
1:25 Ask his friends is there.
1:26 If the guess is real, they going to answer for that.
1:30 What is more important to you right now?
1:32 Right.
1:32 Because you represent Chesches and you you want to take
1:35 your belt back to your country for the people there,
1:38 but also Sean's not being very nice about
1:40 your country and some of the people there.
1:41 Which is more important to you, to take the belt home or to silence Sha?
1:47 What What did I say?
1:48 Would you is it more important to you to win this title and defend
1:51 the belt or is it more important to you to beat Shawn Strickland?
1:56 Doesn't matter for me.
1:56 I just came here work but I just make money,
1:59 you know, beat somebody and if it's Sean, it's Sean.
2:01 It's not Sean.
2:02 We're going to beat somebody else.
2:04 So, I don't care about that you know?
2:06 He doing his clown So, why should I care about that?
2:11 And if he's going to come the belt, if God wills,
2:14 we're going to have this Saturday the belt and go back home.
2:17 Just be happy.
2:19 to let everyone know if tomorrow at the press
2:21 conference they say let's do a faceoff.
2:23 Are you happy to do a face off or do
2:24 you think maybe it's better to just wait until fight night?
2:28 I'm happy to die but why why should I not face off that guy man?
2:32 So I happy to fight.
2:35 I happy to face why should not.
2:44 Hamza right over here on the Jackson podcast.
2:47 You said you don't care if you leave the UFC undefeated
2:49 and that you just want to go and do big things.
2:51 Do you think there's any big things left for you at middleweight
2:53 after this fight or the big things only at light heavyweight?
2:59 I don't think so.
3:00 But still Sean not big thing for me because
3:03 the guy I beat before I all five fronts I took
3:07 the from guy like you know I win all five
3:09 fronts and with the prec and he beats him twice.
3:13 Bro, if I stay there, if I beat Sean, then I imamo Imamo getting beat of Sean.
3:20 So what's the point?
3:22 I we just going like Russian roulette just roll.
3:26 No, just want to go big fights.
3:28 Alex Pereo, if you're going to lose, you're going to come down.
3:31 He's big fight to big name.
3:33 If he not, I go to heavyweight but maybe there as well.
3:37 I need big names, big money.
3:40 So I came here to do some big things, you know,
3:42 and just not stay here like take the easy fights.
3:47 So you're saying you're that you're willing to even go up
3:49 to heavyweight for a big fight if the opportunity is there?
3:52 Of course, for sure.
3:54 So you have a group of young guys that have been with you, Bisor, Yousef, Ansar.
3:59 What is it like being the leader of these guys?
4:00 And what is it like training and bringing up these young guys from Cheschna?
4:05 I don't try to be a leader of anyone.
4:07 just um all of us he has some instincts
4:12 and like alpha wolf you know so just good
4:18 to be with them good energy the guy is crazy
4:22 talented hard workers so like me so that's why I'm
4:27 happy to work with them and be with them
4:29 help them they help me yeah you've had Roundtry
4:35 with you for this entire camp he said that if
4:37 you moved up to light heavyweight, it'd be an issue.
4:39 What is it like to kind of have been training with him and get
4:42 that praise from him that if you were to move up to light heavyweight,
4:44 he thinks you'd kind of just beat everyone up?
4:49 No, I never going to fight.
4:51 But I I can't fight.
4:54 I'm the if I'm brother with you, I'm real brother.
4:56 I don't don't do that things like strong does, you know.
5:00 You call your brother one day and second day he fights
5:03 you and this kind of I can't do that you know.
5:06 I want to be real.
5:12 Hamzad over here.
5:13 There's obviously this added security that we've talked about.
5:16 We've seen there's uniform police officers follow following you around.
5:19 Is it is it amusing at all that this is kind of happening?
5:22 Do you think it's necessary?
5:26 No.
5:26 For me, for me, no problem.
5:28 probably I'm from Cheshna and in Cheshna in every
5:33 100 meters you see military with the Kalashnikov so I
5:38 don't care about how much security how much these people
5:40 around here so this for Sean's safety you know
5:45 no I mean obviously yes this is not to the high
5:49 degree of that but is it just kind of funny that they're
5:51 doing something a little different this week than normal or I mean
5:55 do you do you get why the UFC is doing Ask Dan.
5:59 I'm not UFC.
6:00 I'm just UFC fighter man.
6:02 Fair enough.
6:03 Thank you.
6:10 Um I was wondering, you know,
6:11 you mentioned there about about potentially going to to heavyweight.
6:14 Uh do you watch like those guys
6:16 in the heavyweight division and and sort of see like
6:18 because a lot of people say that that's
6:19 maybe one of the weaker divisions at the moment.
6:22 Do you watch those bigger guys and go like, "Yeah,
6:23 I would fancy it against them." Of course,
6:26 I always been trained with heavy guys.
6:29 So I train most of my time with Alexander Gustafson, Jimmy Manua,
6:35 Gokani from beginning of my career and I was fighting 170.
6:40 I train with them with them.
6:42 So I mean never been problem with weights, you know.
6:45 So I like to eat and have a fine indication.
6:50 Uh, did you see Colin McGregor's message about how you
6:54 and Shawn are fighting for he he said it was his belt?
6:56 Did you see that?
6:57 What what's your response?
6:59 His belt or he lost his belt 10 years ago.
7:02 So, I don't know.
7:03 This guy should come off a little bit drugs and and he's what is this?
7:08 Prop something drinking all the time.
7:14 Come back to normal work and let's fight.
7:18 Let's fight.
7:18 And I don't care boxing.
7:20 I told the Zufi box.
7:22 People thinks I'm just a wrestler.
7:23 I don't need to use my just boxing.
7:26 I'm MMA fighter.
7:27 If I go through the boxing, I'm going to use I'm going to show my boxing too.
7:30 So you're you're talking about boxing.
7:31 You're talking about moving to heavyweight.
7:32 You also are going to be wrestling later this year.
7:35 Uh will you wrestle neither?
7:38 If they pay good for sure, but no no easy money.
7:44 I don't go to that kind of match.
7:46 So if I want to wrestle like Olympic champs,
7:48 I going to go Olympic games for you.
7:51 So it's one of the opportunity too.
7:55 Uh going off of that, uh we spoke with one of your coaches, Allan,
7:58 and he said after signing with RAF,
8:01 maybe you could represent the UAE in the Olympic Games.
8:05 Is that something you would be interested in?
8:07 Yeah, of course.
8:08 We got to we got to we got to see um for right now and just focus
8:12 on this fight and hopefully get back to Abu Dhabi
8:16 fight there then after that we will think about it.
8:19 How would an Olympic gold medal compare to winning a UFC championship?
8:26 I don't know just I'm I'm trying to get the fan have a fan
8:31 with my life you know just compete with someone if it will be
8:36 hard to get the gold you got to work for that and a lot
8:41 of good guys over there in my way You're very confident in yourself.
9:01 You're obviously a favorite in this fight,
9:03 but is there anything in Shan's arsenal
9:05 that for you potentially could present danger?
9:25 I'm not sure.
9:25 I guess the fight will have to show.
9:27 We'll see.
9:27 We'll see in the fight.
9:28 I'll be very happy if he shows me something that I'm surprised by.
9:31 But the harder the fight,
9:32 the better for me because I can show myself and my best skills.
9:38 Fore regarding the heightened security.
9:57 I was talking to Bison earlier.
9:58 He said that not only around the hotel but also on your floors there's security.
10:02 Does that affect your preparation this week in any way?
10:04 Do you have to for instance, you know,
10:06 let them know your movements and stuff like that?
10:08 Does it affect you in any way at all?
10:12 No.
10:12 The guys, security guys been always in like other fights.
10:16 I know some of them, you know, I think many times.
10:18 But why should they control us?
10:23 Why should we control them?
10:24 We just doing our thing.
10:26 They doing their thing.
10:58 The fans are wondering uh what kind
10:59 of approach you're going to take to this fight.
11:01 uh with all the trash talk that's been said
11:03 between the two of you specifically from Shawn's side,
11:06 uh are you looking to punish him and really just mole him for 25 minutes
11:11 just like you did with the former champ or are you looking to finish this quick?
11:14 What's what's the approach the fight?
11:34 I'm not planning anything specifically.
11:36 Uh, you know, it's going to happen the way it's going to happen.
11:39 I'm going to approach the fight the way I always approach the fight.
11:42 I'm going to come out ready and with God's help,
11:43 with Allah's help, we'll see what happens.
12:04 Final question.
12:05 I spoke to Sean last week after his open open workout.
12:08 I asked him at the end of the fight without looking at the result,
12:12 whatever happens happens.
12:13 Will you shake Hamzad hand?
12:15 And he told me that no,
12:16 there's going to be no handshake and most likely you will die enemies.
12:20 Same question to you.
12:21 At the end of the fight, win or lose, are you willing to shake his hand?
12:51 You know, this is not something that I think about.
12:53 It's not something that I pause to actually contemplate.
12:56 You know, it it doesn't matter to me shake his hand,
12:58 not shake his hand if I'm going to be
13:00 his friend or I'm not going to be his friend,
13:01 if I'm ever going to see him again in my life at all.
13:03 It's it's good to be friends with us.
13:05 It's It's not good to not be friends with us.
13:37 Question about question about the last fight when you were fighting Duplaci.
13:41 There was two two instances when you were actually stood up
13:44 by the referee in order to continue the action to kind
13:47 of it was it was given the opponent the a chance
13:50 to restart the fight so to speak back start on on the feet.
13:53 Uh right now there's a whole different era.
13:55 It's a paramount era.
13:56 People are looking for exciting fights.
13:58 Uh Shawn is the kind of fighter that usually keeps the fight standing.
14:01 Have you thought about this scenario where because of excessive wrestling,
14:05 you would be stood up and the fight would have to be restarted on his feet.
14:08 Is it something that you worked specifically on what
14:10 to do during camp if such an instance happens?
14:17 Got to take him down again.
14:18 What should I do?
14:45 It doesn't matter.
14:46 I'll just keep moving forward and I'll take him down again.
14:48 I mean, a referee does his job.
14:50 That's his job.
14:50 If he's going to tell us to stand up and fight, we'll stand up and fight.
14:53 If he'll tell us to take him down, we'll take him down.
14:55 This is what we can do.
14:56 We're going to approach the fight
14:57 and we're going to do whatever whatever strategies.
14:58 We'll see what happens.
15:00 The fight will show, but the idea is to come out there and dominate.
15:12 Okay.
15:16 If if Arman goes up to middleweight,
15:19 do you think he'll be able to beat Shawn Strickland in the fight?
15:27 Yeah, of course he can beat him now.
15:30 Last question.
15:31 Hi, John.
15:32 Um, were you happy to not have to fight against Nasinov as a Caucasian brother
15:37 and do you think he will be
15:38 the next champion after you in the middleweight division?
15:44 opportunity to fight him if you see off for that.
15:47 But what should we do?
15:50 He's a worker in the office.
15:51 I so if you see wanted, we got to do that.
15:56 But of course, we both don't want to fight each other because
15:59 the same relationship in same country almost like we know each other.
16:03 He's a good guy.
16:04 I believe he's the next champ, too.
16:06 Thank you.
16:07 Good luck.
16:08 Hamzot, uh, to your left here.
16:11 A lot of the rumors about you and Shawn sparring
16:14 is that you were able to submit him in the gym.
16:16 Uh, no one has ever attempted a submission on Shawn Strickland in a UFC fight.
16:21 How do you think he's going to react when you try to submit him in the cage?
16:28 Who?
16:29 What kind of me?
16:31 I don't know.
16:32 I never seen some good wrestlers.
16:36 Think about it.
16:37 Imagine the DP symptom like 10 times.
16:40 And if I try to take somebody with their salam here and ask chat GBT like,
16:53 "Hey, uh, what can I ask Sean?" Uh, you know, I've already asked him everything.
16:59 Well, you know, what was your reaction
17:00 when he posted the sparring footage last night?
17:03 Oh god.
17:03 You know, it's funny.
17:04 That's what led to me calling him out.
17:06 Um, what was it like?
17:08 How long was the clip?
17:09 23 seconds.
17:10 Like 23 and what a little dirty bastard.
17:13 You like you you post a light spar.
17:16 Let me take the hat off before they cut me.
17:18 I try not to represent monster on any press conference
17:20 where I say something racist or based as they would say.
17:24 [laughter] Statistics, man.
17:28 They so weird how those are racist these days.
17:31 I don't know a lot of terrorists,
17:32 but normally they uh normally they're yelling all the Akbar.
17:35 But uh [snorts] No.
17:38 Anyways, man, but like that's what I'm talking about.
17:40 Like the guy's just a little rat, dude.
17:42 One, I didn't know we were filming.
17:44 Those are our warm-up rounds.
17:46 It's like, dude, you're just like you're just a weak man.
17:49 He's just a weak weak man.
17:50 I mean, wouldn't you take that a weak man?
17:53 I kind of to be honest, I didn't think there was a lot in the clip.
17:56 Yeah, but it's also like what is the point?
17:57 You were light sparring and you show like I mean
18:00 those shorts a little questionable on my part, you know.
18:02 I mean, but they they were Amazon, you know.
18:04 Yeah, it was a bad angle for you.
18:06 Yeah, it was bad.
18:06 It was a bad angle.
18:07 It was a bad angle, but you know, I mean, hey, I like women.
18:10 He likes his goats.
18:11 I win there.
18:12 Did uh Did you guys spar more than that or was
18:14 that the only round that you guys ever did?
18:15 No, we actually only did uh we did one we did one we've only
18:20 sparred once and we did a uh like I think it was three round spar.
18:25 So we sparred once, but um I [clears
18:27 throat] like I I kept telling you this dude,
18:29 I when I go to a gym, I want to spar the best guy.
18:32 I I want to spar him, but he would always just go beat up the lower level guys.
18:36 I don't know, man.
18:38 He uh he said yesterday in his media
18:40 that he called Hunter up and asked for this fight.
18:42 He said he wanted to try your meat and he called for the fight.
18:45 Try my meat.
18:46 Do you think he took something out of those spars that made him want this fight?
18:50 Do you even believe he asked for this fight?
18:51 What do you think is making him so confident coming into this one?
18:55 No.
18:55 I mean, of course he I don't know, man.
18:58 Try my Was I even mean, dude?
18:59 Did you call him agot when that happened?
19:00 Did you say what are you trying to say, dude?
19:02 All right, relax.
19:04 No, I mean I [clears throat] think it's also a good fight.
19:06 I think it's a fun fight.
19:07 You know, there's so many people in the division
19:09 where it's like like what are the top five?
19:11 Brendan Allen, his punching bag, his his meat, you know,
19:15 like like what else in the top five division you have right now?
19:18 Like, so it's kind of it's kind of nice just to get a fresh look, new blood.
19:22 So, I think the fight just kind of made sense.
19:25 Do you get the impression that if you can't get this done,
19:27 there's no one else in this division who can, [sighs]
19:31 you know?
19:34 Hopefully guys are learning how to wrestle these days.
19:36 It's just really hard, dude.
19:38 When you when you're dealing with that kind of like chin style of leg humping,
19:41 it's like it's uh unless you've experienced it before.
19:45 It's something it's hard to train for, you know,
19:48 because they just get on your leg and they just hold on for dear life.
19:51 You they don't really it's it's hard
19:53 to experience unless you train with these guys.
19:55 I've trained these guys forever, so I kind of know what it's like.
19:58 Do you find like, you know, everyone's talking like,
20:00 "Oh, they can't see each other in the lobby.
20:02 We might not be able to do a face off." Are you kind of getting
20:04 a little bit bored of that narrative at this bit like you are both a
20:07 I mean I'm I don't think he gives a does he?
20:09 He doesn't seem to.
20:10 Yeah.
20:11 Like it's I don't know, man.
20:14 I think uh I don't even know how did this even get started.
20:17 Oh, I know how it got started.
20:18 He said like something about jumping me.
20:20 He made a joke about like all my friends would jump you and I said like,
20:24 "Dude, you're a coward.
20:26 I'm a grown ass man." At no point in my life like at no
20:29 point in my life have I ever said I'm going to jump this man.
20:32 Like to me to say that and look myself in the mirror after
20:35 saying that and and saying that I'm going to threaten you and my fans
20:38 like it kind of makes me feel like a So the fact
20:40 that you can say that that's why I say you're a weak man.
20:42 So I think I said that like well if you
20:44 or any Cheshn rolls up to me they're going to get
20:47 you know I think what what I got like 20
20:48 plus one and my carry gun's like 18 plus one.
20:52 So but I mean that's that's realistic.
20:54 Like if if you walk outside and there's five Cheschians trying
20:57 to f not in New Jersey obviously because we're in a communist state,
21:01 but in Vegas if I walk outside and there's three Cheschians,
21:04 I legally could put a bolt in each and every one of them.
21:07 Why?
21:08 Because in America, we value being a man.
21:12 In America, we value one-on-one fights.
21:15 We value stand your ground.
21:16 What we don't value is being a weak third world who threatens friends.
21:21 Like, it's such a soft soft mentality.
21:23 Soft man.
21:24 Soft man.
21:25 You agree though, right?
21:26 That's kind of a mentality, right?
21:28 I don't.
21:28 Show hands.
21:29 Everybody's raising their hand.
21:30 [laughter] Well, did you take uh He tweeted about, you know,
21:33 your growing up and stuff like that, which
21:35 sometimes people like to throw out your way.
21:36 Did you I didn't even see it.
21:37 What did he say?
21:38 You say, you repeat it.
21:39 He said that your dad made you a girl, [laughter]
21:42 you know, honestly, like I mean,
21:44 my dad kind of made me violent because he was such a weak man.
21:48 You're going to find that like maybe Chamay included
21:51 like growing up my dad was like the boogeyman.
21:55 Like he was the scariest thing uh the scariest thing in my life,
22:00 you know, watching him beat up my mom, throw beer bottles at me.
22:03 So, it's like to me, my dad, he almost made me a little bit like sociopathic,
22:07 more like a sociopath than anything.
22:09 It probably did more harm than good.
22:11 And I'll never I'll I'll never forget I was like uh I think I was 17 years old
22:16 and like he wasn't letting my mom go to work
22:19 and I I walked in there and I was like,
22:21 "Dad, like I I think I was a fighter at the time.
22:23 I probably dropped out of high school.
22:24 I was probably a loser." And I walked in there and I was like,
22:27 "Dude, you got to you got to let it go to work, dude.
22:29 Like you got to let it go to work.
22:30 Mortgage must be paid." And the guy gets
22:32 in my face and he says like, "I'm your dad.
22:35 You're you're gonna hit me." And I remember I just said like, "You know what?
22:39 it, dude.
22:39 Today's the day." I headbutt him, broke his nose,
22:41 fell down, and this guy started crying.
22:44 And it was like so disappointing to me because I seen this guy
22:47 who was like this psychopath my whole life who I was a scared of.
22:52 And you just see him this whiny little on the floor bleeding.
22:55 So it's like if anything,
22:57 I would say my my dad probably more made me a sociopath than [laughter]
23:01 why why I'm might have to shoot three ches on stand your ground law.
23:05 [gasps] I'll leave it on this one.
23:07 Look, the fight itself, everyone knows he's going to come out.
23:09 He's going to be aggressive.
23:10 He's going to shoot really early and you're going
23:11 to have to scramble and get work your way back up.
23:13 At what point in the fight do you think you start to turn it in your favor?
23:16 You know, I don't dude I don't have a I don't have an issue.
23:18 Like my boy Johnny's in the back, dude.
23:20 Let's go, [clears throat] dude.
23:21 My boy's Johnny in the back, dude.
23:22 I I think he's a far better wrestler than he's a far better wrestler than Shay.
23:26 He shoots better, has a better stand up.
23:28 So, it's like I've been training with guys that are better than him.
23:31 I I think Johnny beats him on on any s Saturday.
23:35 So, I I just like I don't know, man.
23:37 I I just I don't think he's going to put anything at me where I'm like,
23:40 "Oh, that's that's you know,
23:41 maybe if he faints right and lands and gets lucky and lands a punch,
23:44 but like punch for punch, wrestle for wrestle, I got this." That was quick.
23:53 Sean, just curious.
23:54 Obviously, a lot of people talking about the grappling with this fight
23:57 and people noticed a stat leading in that in all your UFC fights,
24:01 no one has ever attempted a submission against you.
24:03 Maybe because I've only fought men.
24:05 I don't know.
24:06 Sure.
24:06 [laughter] Does that Does that surprise you
24:09 at all or like did you know that stat?
24:11 I mean, dude, submissions are gay, dude.
24:13 It's like they're gay.
24:15 Like, I'm sad that I have to potentially have to deal
24:18 with a guy who wants to dry hunt my leg.
24:19 It's uh but I'm also never really in a position
24:23 to uh for guys to do submissions, right?
24:26 Like I don't I don't want to go on my back, you know?
24:28 I'm not into that
24:31 Uh what would be more to you, this title win or your victory over Israel?
24:35 Oh, man.
24:36 You know, dude, I like Let me tell you guys, I don't like live in the past.
24:39 You know, I'm always a forward must move forward kind of guy.
24:43 You know, it it was dope, but you know, a W's a W's and L's an L.
24:46 I think with Chimay, it's more of like just a kind of a score to settle,
24:50 you know, because we train.
24:51 I think I you up.
24:52 You think you me up.
24:53 And it's like it's really like we just get to find out who
24:57 would do you want your title reign to be different compared to the first time.
25:00 Like obviously you weren't able to defend it.
25:01 You had a pretty quick turnaround.
25:03 Is things going to be different this time around?
25:05 No, dude.
25:06 Are you kidding me?
25:06 I want to quick turn around always, dude.
25:08 I'm not Chamay.
25:09 I'm not going to go home and suck off
25:11 a dictator for a year and live in fame, dude.
25:13 I want to go fight, dog.
25:14 I want to make money.
25:16 Do you think Nasser Immov is the top contender?
25:18 Oh, yeah.
25:19 Nasserdine.
25:20 I mean, I guess.
25:20 Is he the top contender now?
25:22 I guess so.
25:22 I mean, you know, the angry the angry the angry Muslim.
25:25 The angry Muslim.
25:26 I guess so.
25:27 We'll fight another angry Muslim.
25:28 Swear to God.
25:29 to the UFC.
25:30 Like, I wonder if the UFC wakes up and says,
25:32 I want to actively ruin this sport, you know?
25:35 Let's go get the let's go get the most unlikable
25:38 pieces of and like let's put him in the UFC.
25:41 Like, Tank Abbott.
25:42 Matt Hughes.
25:43 Like, let's just go and get the most unlikable Dude, I mean, I told you a story,
25:48 but um I I think I made a joke on Islam, you know?
25:52 I like I I try to lay off of it cuz I have a lot of Muslim buddies.
25:55 So like even though it's really hard for me not
25:57 to, I try not to cuz like you know I have like
26:00 Muslim guys come be like See See See See See See
26:02 See See See See like you know you met my mom, you met my sister, you met my kid
26:04 and you're sitting there like talking on my religion.
26:07 I'm like god damn it dude.
26:08 But I'm like maybe that's your sign, right?
26:10 Like there any Christians in the room?
26:12 You know any Christians?
26:13 I can make fun of Christ all day long and you
26:14 guys can be like well you're going to hell but good luck.
26:17 But maybe that maybe that's your sign.
26:19 But I I try not to go too hard
26:21 on Islam these days just for the sake of my friends.
26:24 But it made me laugh because he said
26:26 something like he said something like Ali Ali Akbar
26:29 to a tweet or something I did and I
26:31 was like bro remember Charlie Ebdo you remember that?
26:35 Remember that when you piece of went there and murdered
26:37 that guy in France did you post about him?
26:40 Did you condemn that?
26:42 It's like at the end of the day, dude, the these guys,
26:43 even Chamay said, "Well, my Muslim community, dude, your Muslim community,
26:47 bro, you guys are like,
26:48 if that's your Muslim community that you have to jump
26:50 somebody or go murder someone for freedom of speech,
26:53 like you have a serious problem." And that is
26:56 why the UFC bringing these in, fight or not,
26:59 you just like you make the sport almost unwatchable because
27:02 you're bringing these people that are not compatible with America,
27:04 that Americans don't give a about,
27:06 they don't understand America, they can never be an American.
27:09 So, it's one of those like shitty things where it's
27:11 like the UFC will just keep doing it, keep doing it.
27:13 But, I mean, at some point, I don't give a about Nasserine.
27:17 And lastly, from me, um,
27:19 I see obviously like the oddsmakers have you like a 5 to1 underdog,
27:23 but I see a lot of fighters like the likes of Joe Rogan talking
27:26 about how you're built for this fight and you have the skill set to win.
27:29 What's the difference between what all those people
27:31 are seeing and what the betting public is seeing?
27:34 Jamaiah's best chance, it's not going to be grappling.
27:36 It's going to be maybe if he slips right
27:37 and does an overhand or something or if he gets lucky.
27:40 But it's like at the end of the day, guys,
27:41 you could bring the best grappler in the world
27:43 and you could have us grapple for an hour.
27:45 I will win.
27:46 I will win.
27:47 All I do is grapple you guys.
27:48 What do you guys think?
27:49 I The reason why I don't post grappling is because it's gay.
27:52 I could go show me and Michelle trying to give each other CTE and that's great.
27:56 Do you really want to see me and two
27:58 guys in the missionary position just like it's gay, dude.
28:01 I don't want to do it.
28:03 Sean, um, on the countdown,
28:05 Eric referred to you as maybe the captain over at Extreme.
28:08 So, I guess what's what's camp like?
28:11 You know, with Francis preparing for his fight.
28:13 Johnny just got his new fight.
28:14 You say Francis, bro, you're not allowed to say that.
28:16 You see that logo?
28:17 Like, where does his You can't say that.
28:20 Francis is not allowed to be talked about.
28:22 Too late now, I actually tried to bring him
28:24 to the PI to wrestle with us in the UFC.
28:26 He's like, "No." It was like, "You can't do that." Like, what the dude?
28:29 African man walked across a continent barefoot, you know,
28:32 and you just you're just that salty because he wanted
28:35 to go make more money and and better his life.
28:38 Crazy.
28:38 Like, but you know, UFC UFC is going to UFC.
28:42 But no, dude, my cancer great, you know?
28:44 Honestly, I I hate training with Johnny.
28:46 I I truly hate training with Johnny album.
28:48 Like, it's uh out of I I go and I look at his sparring.
28:52 We just beating up Brendan Allen, using him as a piece of meat.
28:56 I'm like, that'd be so nice.
28:57 Can we get Brendan Allen here?
28:59 Like I want him as a training partner.
29:01 Here I am training with Johnny like world champion.
29:04 Like just having a five round death match every day.
29:07 I'm like that'd be real nice.
29:09 Who's the toughest bar between Francis and Alex?
29:15 Oh, that's a hard one, dude.
29:15 Um, Alex, you know, and this is where Alex is
29:20 going to excel so much at heavyweights because like heavyweights,
29:22 they're heavyweights.
29:23 Alex is not a heavyweight.
29:25 Alex is a 205 with a heavyweight build that could be heavyweight and that's
29:30 why you're going to see him succeed
29:31 so much because you're fighting lower competition.
29:34 You're faster, you hit harder.
29:35 So, no, I think um but then France is big and black, bro.
29:40 [laughter] I don't know, dude.
29:42 [snorts] If I had to pick who I had to fight, dude, I don't know, dude.
29:46 Uh well, we already know how one went, [laughter] you know.
29:51 I don't know, man.
29:52 They both suck.
29:53 [snorts] You mentioned just now you said,
29:56 you know, you have Muslim friends who say,
29:58 why do you why do you pick on them, right?
30:00 Why not just keep the trash talk confined to the to the fighter
30:03 himself and go instead of going beyond [clears throat] the country?
30:09 Well, let me tell you, he kind of made that about that.
30:11 He was the one that says this white guy, this American,
30:14 like he kind of he kind of made that realm of I mean,
30:18 the first time I met again, funny joke, he joked about being a terrorist.
30:22 Literally the first time I met the guy, oh, I'm a terrorist, man.
30:24 I didn't say that, But no, you know what it is, dude?
30:28 We live in a world right now where we're being like
30:32 forced to conform to ideologies and beliefs that don't fit America.
30:37 Like even um I mean,
30:38 look at these Somali communities that come and just defraud the government.
30:42 We are being forced right now as as someone who built the Western world,
30:47 who is a beacon of hope and freedom.
30:49 Like the rest of the world models themselves off America and we're being forced
30:53 to import these third world that have really
30:57 no right or beliefs or identity as America.
31:00 And they don't come and they don't merge.
31:02 They're not a melting pot.
31:03 They don't come and say, you know what, man, I love freedom of speech.
31:06 Draw any pro, draw any picture of Muhammad you want.
31:09 Like they don't do that.
31:10 They come here and they actively try to change their country to our country.
31:16 They try to change it to their country that they left that sucks.
31:19 And it's just a damn shame that we
31:21 have these liberals that keep promoting that idea.
31:24 If you want to be if you want to go have shar law and you want to go
31:28 you want to go cover up your wife and put her on a towel and a blanket,
31:32 go back to your shitty country.
31:33 We're not doing this in America.
31:35 And every proud Americans, white, black, Mexican, brown,
31:39 you guys have to speak up because these people
31:41 are actively against everything we stand for as Americans.
31:44 Has anyone you ever trusted or respected
31:48 strongly suggested you cool down the rhetoric?
31:50 There might be more opportunity, especially if you're a champion.
31:52 I again, I don't give a dude.
31:53 If Nike if Nike wants to come give me a I mean, Nike.
31:56 You want to come give me a a logo
31:59 as you go use little Chinese kids and make shoes.
32:02 Like, these major companies.
32:03 You don't want to sponsor me, go yourself.
32:05 You're actually the problem, dude.
32:07 Your DI initiatives.
32:08 Like, I don't give a dude.
32:09 I don't want you to be a rich man.
32:10 I'm good.
32:11 I can retire right now.
32:12 I don't what, an extra million dollars.
32:14 I don't give a dude.
32:15 Keep keep your money, you corporate scumbags.
32:22 Sean, obviously the the security here is much more elevated and followed around.
32:27 Um, you know, when you left yesterday,
32:29 the the police are are they are they state police?
32:32 Who's following you?
32:32 Yeah, state I don't know.
32:33 Are they state police?
32:34 Really good guys, dude.
32:34 Really good guys.
32:35 You know, I'm sure.
32:35 I'm sure.
32:36 But they're, you know, they're you know, finishing up with media.
32:38 Sean's on the move.
32:39 You know, they're Is this amusing to you?
32:41 You know, I let me tell you guys, it's not the first fight where I had security.
32:44 I think I've had a couple fights where I've had security.
32:46 This is probably the highest security.
32:48 But again, you know,
32:50 I don't think I don't think there really is a problem with with me and Chamay.
32:53 Like, if me and Chamay were here right now, we're not going to fight.
32:56 Obviously, we're going to fight Saturday.
32:58 But this goes back to his point.
33:00 Chamay will come and he has to bring 30 fanatical chians
33:05 and they cannot be trusted because they are not compatible with us.
33:09 So why do we have security?
33:10 We have security because you somehow America,
33:12 we've somehow let these savages come to our country.
33:16 And he brings a 30man entourage and I have to be in America.
33:20 New Jersey, by the way, is a piece of state.
33:22 No offense.
33:23 New Jersey has no stand your ground, no concealed carry.
33:25 It's real bad here.
33:27 But as an American, I have to be here and be like, "Hey,
33:29 there are 30 30 third world country that won't fight alone that are
33:35 walking around real stabby." like if this proves my point more than anything,
33:40 I don't know what else does.
33:42 Have you been able to kind of explore it all or like
33:44 are you interested in going anywhere or that kind of thing?
33:47 How how much has this kind of affected your No, I I actually love it, man.
33:50 I It's way more quiet, you know?
33:52 I I don't get people harassing me.
33:53 Usually, especially title fights, it's uh I always go the extra mile.
33:57 Fans, if any fan comes up to me like doesn't matter, I always go the extra mile.
34:02 So, it's kind of nice just not having to do that, you know?
34:04 And I can I love fans, but title fights there's like a there's a different level
34:09 of like people that show up that are more into the UFC.
34:13 So, it's kind of nice been able to zone out a little bit more.
34:15 You said this is a little more elevated than it's been in the past.
34:17 Like what are some other op times I guess where
34:20 you did have a little bit of security with you.
34:22 Oh, I think when I hit that guy in Australia, love tap.
34:26 Love.
34:26 By the way, we got to find that guy and give him a shirt or a ticket.
34:29 Dude, bring that in.
34:30 I mean, he didn't come up and say he didn't press charge.
34:32 It was more like a like a love tap.
34:34 It's more like a love tab.
34:35 I won't say hit.
34:36 But um [clears throat] No,
34:38 I think with me I think usually with security they just know that I'm volatile.
34:42 And I wouldn't say I'm volatile.
34:43 Like I hit people that deserve to get hit.
34:45 Like I'm not going to go out there and just attack,
34:47 you know, attack you or attack him.
34:48 But like if a needs to get hit, I'm going to hit him.
34:51 I'm gonna hit him and I don't give a I'll I'll take my assault charge.
34:55 I'll go spend a couple months in jail.
34:56 I don't give a you know?
34:57 So, I think the UFC is just more cautious because they
35:00 know that uh that I will hit a catch it or not,
35:03 30 of them or 20 of them or two of them, I will hit them.
35:06 Do you really think anything is going to happen between now and fight night as
35:08 No, no, of course not.
35:09 Of course not.
35:10 But I mean, how much money is UFC invested in this?
35:12 You know, if one one up and next thing you know,
35:15 they lose you know, billions of millions of dollars.
35:18 So, I I think right now they're just trying to protect their investment,
35:21 but I think everything's fine.
35:24 Sean, uh, the talk is that Chamay is going
35:27 to move up to light heavyweight after he beats you.
35:30 If you win, do you think he stays and chases that rematch?
35:35 Yeah.
35:35 No, I I don't know.
35:36 I think he would.
35:37 I I think I think light heavyweight's probably
35:39 a significantly easier division right now than the middleweight.
35:42 I mean, I should move up to light heavyweight.
35:44 Be way easier than middleweights.
35:46 It's kind of like again there's something with like
35:48 and this is a known thing in the industry.
35:51 There's a skill gap as you go up.
35:54 So I'll give you an example.
35:55 I [clears throat] like I'll coach a lot of guys and I'll help a lot of guys.
35:59 So I'll go and like coach the little guys, the 45ers,
36:01 the 55ers and sometimes I'm watching these guys
36:04 and I'm like you are doing everything perfect.
36:06 You're checking kicks, you're punching, your volume, you're shooting.
36:11 Like you are doing everything perfect.
36:13 I have nothing to say to you.
36:15 Right?
36:15 And then I'll go watch a heavyweight guy and I'm like,
36:17 "Dude, you're leaning back.
36:18 You're dropping your punch.
36:20 You're doing like I could watch a heavyweight
36:22 fight and there's a million things wrong." So, it's a known thing that there is
36:26 a skill gap between smaller guys and bigger guys.
36:29 So, it's kind of smart, you know?
36:30 I just got to go and I can't tell you how many top
36:32 like Tom as I swallow Tom as I I could fight this guy.
36:36 I could fight this guy.
36:37 He's big, but I can fight him.
36:39 But, uh, yeah.
36:40 So, I I think it I think a lot of guys moving up.
36:42 It just they're realizing it's just an easier time moving up.
36:46 That being said, is there a time where you move up to light heavyweight,
36:50 you know?
36:51 I mean, maybe maybe if I want to, you know, enjoy life a little bit more.
36:54 Like I like [sighs] I'm trying to think
36:57 of all the light heavyweights I've sparred.
37:00 Analy dude, he's an uncle would be a fight.
37:03 Uh Ankal live I think beat him alive any day of the week.
37:06 So Ankal live will probably be the next champion hands down.
37:10 I mean, it's it's crazy that um Alex,
37:12 like that's that's how you know that you deserve your ranking
37:15 and you are a champion because you beat Uncle Live.
37:17 Uncle Live is probably one of the best 205 reserve barred.
37:20 Thank you.
37:23 That's it.
37:23 All right, guys.
37:24 Have a good one.
37:25 You there.
37:26 This guy.
37:26 You trying to race bait me, Let's talk about Muslims.