RZA Talks Wu-Tang, Creation, New Film
The Adam Friedland Show
0:03 I just had some jalapeno[ __] Lays potato chips.
0:07 You know what?
0:07 I just tried that uh the jalapeno cheddar checks mix.
0:13 Whoa.
0:28 Oh my go.
0:41 Hello and welcome to the Adam Freedelland show.
0:43 I'm host Adam Freedelland.
0:45 You liked it?
0:46 I like that.
0:47 Okay.
0:47 My guest this week is the legendary rapper and producer, The Rizza.
0:52 You may know him as a founding member of the Wuang Clan,
0:55 but uh that's a side of him I only learned about quite recently.
1:00 See, me and the Rizza have a shared interest,
1:04 an obsession, some might say, and that is kung fu.
1:10 My journey began at the Wu Dang Mountain Kung Fu Academy,
1:15 where I was dropped off as an 11-year-old baby.
1:18 I studied for years under master Wongshi Ming in the disciplines of sword, fist,
1:25 and acupuncture pre acuping what he called a tian
1:31 fu or natural gift for the art form.
1:34 I was the best.
1:36 I was the best and I knew it.
1:39 One day during training, Master Sheni Jing uh called me into his office.
1:44 He told me that as his most predigious student,
1:47 I would be sent to represent the Wu Dong
1:50 in a battle against our natural rivals, Shiao Lin.
1:54 Of course, I accepted the opportunity to show my discipline and superiority.
1:58 So, I hopped on a bus to Shangghu and I
2:03 entered the temple and ready to display my mastery.
2:06 I was soon introduced to my opponent from the Shaolin Temple,
2:10 an American man named Robert.
2:13 He was strong, intimidating, with an eerie calm about him.
2:16 We bowed and quickly began our shu.
2:21 I attempted a blow with my right hand.
2:23 He perfectly blocked it.
2:25 I tried for a low leg kick.
2:27 Robert jumped all over it, almost bored with my attempt.
2:31 And after many more failed strikes, I it was clear he had had enough.
2:38 He was done playing with his food.
2:40 So with one swift strike, he chopped my head off and I died.
2:50 I later found that out that Robert was a celebrity
2:52 known as the Rizza from a very Heraldenkumar 3D Christmas.
2:57 Now is that story true?
3:01 100%.
3:03 And let the moral be this.
3:04 Don't try to steal the chicken just to end up losing the rice before they hatch.
3:13 My guest's new film, One Spoon of Chocolate,
3:15 is in theaters everywhere, so go see it before it's gone.
3:19 Please enjoy my conversation with the Rizza, Bobby Digital.
3:23 Bobby Digital, the scientist.
3:26 That was great.
3:27 Best friend.
3:27 Best episode.
3:28 Best episode.
3:31 Um,
3:30 I got one last question.
3:33 Like, what is this for?
3:34 Uh,
3:36 there's there's nothing in it.
3:37 There's nothing in it.
3:38 Go to the store.
3:40 Pick Coca-Cola something in it.
3:42 No.
3:43 Water.
3:43 There you go.
3:44 It's vodka.
3:46 No.
3:45 You can tell there's doing a suicide.
3:48 Well, I think the I don't really I don't got
3:50 I don't I don't be around too many people, bro.
3:53 I know.
3:54 I can't I can't I can't measure.
3:56 I'm at this stage in middle age adulthood where I'm
3:59 like I I really just I want to go to work.
4:03 Are you married or you are you engaged?
4:05 Engaged.
4:05 How many I mean you want to talk about that on camera or No, we don't have to.
4:09 I don't No, I don't.
4:10 I like to.
4:10 No.
4:10 I like to create the illusion that I I'm like Bad Bunny.
4:14 I could be straight, gay.
4:16 I don't No, no, no.
4:20 I I No.
4:20 Yeah.
4:21 No, I've I've mentioned it before.
4:22 Yeah, we're we're engaged.
4:23 We've been together 5 years.
4:24 Oh, nice.
4:24 Wait,
4:25 he's awesome.
4:25 I'm hit one more.
4:27 I'm interviewing this guy.
4:28 How many How long for the engagement?
4:30 The engagement?
4:31 uh like a year.
4:32 Oh yeah,
4:33 you're doing you doing the right path, bro.
4:35 Cuz after first of all, after 2 years of of dating.
4:39 Yeah.
4:39 Yeah.
4:39 Then 3 years of dating.
4:41 It's really just whenever they want, you know?
4:43 Yeah.
4:43 But but then to say they're going to engagement,
4:46 that means that you feeling[ __] is good, bro.
4:48 I wanted to get I want to get married to her immediately,
4:50 but I'm just one of those kind of guys.
4:52 I was just waiting.
4:53 It was it was embarrassing, so I didn't tell her.
4:55 And I was waiting for her to be like, "You have to get engaged to me." Right.
4:58 Yeah.
4:58 I break the engagement, though.
5:00 You broke it.
5:01 I bricked it.
5:01 It was like It was a disaster.
5:04 I like went I went to Mexico City and then I she was we're visiting
5:08 a friend of hers and I was like can you make sure we're at like a party
5:12 like and uh at when the countdown happens I'll just give her the ring
5:16 and then just like we literally just Have you seen that movie After Hours?
5:20 The Scorsese movie?
5:23 No.
5:22 It's the one where the guy goes out
5:23 and he's just like everything's a disaster after disaster.
5:26 Like I didn't watch that one but look at it.
5:29 But like uh yeah, we like we left somewhere.
5:32 We got to another place.
5:33 It was no one was there.
5:35 I was like and then I told her friend I was like, "Can you find a party,
5:38 we get to the party, there's like like six people around a coffee
5:42 table in the living room." I'm like,
5:43 "I'm not getting engaged in front of these freaks." And they're like, "Yo, dude,
5:47 I love the last episode." I'm like,
5:48 "I'm definitely not getting engaged in front of a guy."
5:52 Who[ __] watched my last episode?
5:53 We tried to go we tried to go like six different places and like by 3:00 a.m.
5:58 we finally found this place that was like lit.
5:59 It was like looked great.
6:01 And she was cold.
6:02 You know how like women you know how they're always I'm Yeah.
6:06 So she's wearing my jacket and then the I get patted down.
6:10 I go in and I turn around.
6:12 I'm like, "Oh shit." And then she's getting patted down.
6:14 They're like, "What's this box?"
6:17 Oh,
6:16 yeah.
6:16 And then they took it out.
6:17 But I was like being such a[ __] all night.
6:19 It It would have been a romantic thing if that happened.
6:22 But I was like all night she was like, "What?
6:25 Why?
6:26 What?
6:26 Why do you have such a bad attitude to New Year's?" I'm like, "I'm fine.
6:29 I'm I'm having a great night.
6:30 I'm just trying to find a[ __] place to propose."
6:33 And then she was like, "Oh, well, it didn't work out tonight.
6:36 Maybe another time." And it was like it was so nice,
6:39 but also I was like my like felt so emascul.
6:45 Then the next day he says, "Hey, baby, let's do it."
6:48 And you said something about women always being cold.
6:50 How many women we have here?
6:51 Zero.
6:52 Yeah,
6:52 let's just say let's tell it like it is.
6:55 I'm sorry.
6:58 Yeah.
6:58 Uh, always the way the light was hitting the hitting this dude right here.
7:02 I thought we had No, because his hair is here.
7:06 FROM THIS ANGLE.
7:08 THIS IS THE ALPHA pack leader of the crew.
7:09 This guy.
7:11 No, from this angle, bro.
7:12 Don't get it twisted.
7:13 I
7:13 was like, how many women we got?
7:14 I none.
7:15 I was like, wait a minute.
7:16 None.
7:16 Oh, okay.
7:17 Take these off.
7:17 I don't I don't need these.
7:19 Yeah.
7:19 Yeah.
7:19 But but in prison you'd be the bell of the balls, man.
7:22 Don't forget that.
7:23 Well, the reason why I was asking is that
7:27 can your girl and anybody can answer this.
7:32 Yeah.
7:31 Can they[ __] stand a hotter shower than you?
7:34 They shower so hot.
7:37 Exactly.
7:37 What's the science?
7:37 What is it?
7:38 Women love a hot shower.
7:39 What the[ __] is that?
7:41 Yeah.
7:41 And it's you get in after them.
7:43 Insane.
7:43 And burn your whole[ __]
7:44 It is.
7:44 It is like
7:46 So you down with that?
7:46 Anybody got more witnesses?
7:48 Yeah.
7:49 Okay.
7:49 All right.
7:50 Yeah, that's right.
7:50 Tell it like it is.
7:51 And they and that there's no one here that could stop us.
7:54 __] All right.
7:57 And we'll see how they like that.
7:59 Just want to make sure I wasn't alone in that[ __]
8:01 Oh my god.
8:02 Don't get me started, brother.
8:03 And this, you know, how they tell the most
8:06 the best stories that are really funny and interesting.
8:11 And you know when they how they tell their girls those stories
8:16 Uhhuh.
8:16 that they just told you and you're like,
8:17 "What the[ __] is this?" And then their girl is like,
8:20 "What?" And you're like, "What are you, what are you hearing?"
8:24 It was the post.
8:25 And then they tell a gay guy and the gay guy's doing
8:27 that, but I know the gay guy doesn't think it's a good story.
8:30 The gay guy is he's a double agent.
8:33 He should tell her it's a bad story.
8:35 But you know what though?
8:36 I got to speak up for my wife a little bit.
8:38 She's a We throw.
8:40 I didn't realize how funny she was, bro.
8:42 They are funny though, bro.
8:44 She she was hit me she been stabbing me with jokes for 10 years I didn't get
8:50 Uhhuh.
8:49 but she was hitting me with them.
8:50 I you know like what style
8:55 bro like it want to come up.
8:58 All right.
8:59 And if it comes up I ask my wife.
9:00 My friend has a list of of just things that his wife says so he doesn't snap.
9:07 Yeah.
9:07 She's good.
9:08 She asked him if a trillion is three million.
9:10 How funny is that?
9:13 And then she said, "Who?" She asked,
9:15 "Who won the war?" when he was talking about World War II.
9:17 She's like, "Who won?
9:19 What are they doing?"
9:21 That's funny though.
9:21 And don't get me started, they they use Apple Maps.
9:26 They They It's insane the way they Apple Maps.
9:29 Yeah.
9:29 The Cuz it's on the phone.
9:30 You're like, "Get Google.
9:32 You're going to[ __] drive off a cliff." Apple Maps never works.
9:36 It's It's psycho.
9:37 I don't understand how they figured out the maps.
9:39 You use Google Maps like a man
9:41 or or ways like a Zionist uh MSAD.
9:46 Would you believe I don't drive, bro?
9:47 You don't drive at all?
9:48 Bro, I haven't drove since 2011, bro.
9:51 Really?
9:51 Do you have a driver?
9:53 Yeah.
9:54 Really?
9:54 Somebody else stress.
9:55 You know what I mean?
9:56 Do you have a window that you like like No,
10:00 I don't want to talk to you.
10:01 Do you have
10:01 I mean, depending on what kind of car, but I got to escalate.
10:03 He drives the Escalade or whatever.
10:05 But I don't drive.
10:06 I just gave up, bro.
10:07 You're done with it.
10:08 I'm a terrible driver, too.
10:09 You should give up, bro.
10:10 Yeah.
10:10 Yeah.
10:10 My And also, my girlfriend is way better than me,
10:13 and it's it is emasculating, too.
10:15 Yeah.
10:15 I I will I know how I'm going to die one day, actually,
10:18 cuz I have this I do the sneezing thing where I can't sneeze once.
10:22 I sneeze like at least three times in a row.
10:25 Okay.
10:24 And I'm going to be on a on a freeway and and just Yeah.
10:28 Well, you get a lot of blessings then.
10:31 No.
10:31 How many of you sneeze?
10:31 Bless you.
10:32 Bless you.
10:33 Not once.
10:34 I'm one of the least respected.
10:35 So, you have a lot of nicknames.
10:37 I only have one.
10:38 You're like you're you have like you know the scientist Bobby Digital,
10:44 Robert Fitzgerald Digs.
10:46 You're also Yeah.
10:47 You're named after RFK.
10:49 Yeah.
10:49 Well, no, no, no, wait.
10:52 No.
10:52 Fitzgerald.
10:52 John Fitzgerald.
10:53 John and Robert together.
10:54 Your parents loved them.
10:55 They were those kind of baby boomers.
10:57 Yeah.
10:57 They were like it was Camelot.
10:58 It was phenomenal.
11:00 It was Well, somebody cared.
11:02 Yeah.
11:02 It felt like somebody cared in those in those days cuz it was,
11:05 you know, it's like nobody cared.
11:06 You ever meet the son?
11:08 No, I never met Junior.
11:10 Nuhuh.
11:09 He's got some opinions.
11:11 Yeah.
11:11 Well, I'm talking about the guy with the uh Robert Jun.
11:14 He got a deep voice.
11:15 His voice is deep, bro.
11:16 What the[ __] happened to his voice?
11:17 No, he's got a voice like he's got like something stuck in it.
11:20 Yeah.
11:20 What happened?
11:23 What's that?
11:26 Oh, just kidding.
11:27 Well, he deserves it for all the You know, you know what?
11:30 Mr.
11:31 Trump.
11:31 Yeah, that's what he gets.
11:33 Yeah, he has[ __] stuck in his throat.
11:34 That's what he said.
11:35 No, I'm uh Yeah, there's a very funny video of him because he's like
11:39 clearly on like roids trying to do push-ups and he can like only do three.
11:43 Get out of here.
11:44 Yeah, he has muscles but he's weak.
11:45 Yeah, it's hilarious.
11:46 That's deep.
11:47 Not us.
11:48 No, no, I could do more than three.
11:49 I got a bad shoulder and I could do definitely more than three.
11:53 Okay, let's get to you.
11:54 Let's get to the interview.
11:55 Even though you're my best friend.
11:56 I thought I thought I thought this was an interview.
11:59 No, no, I have I actually have
12:00 You got to make an intro.
12:01 I have topics.
12:03 Okay.
12:03 Well, we were rolling on that.
12:04 We were rolling out all that.
12:06 I just want to chill with you the rest of my life.
12:08 And I knew that it would be this way.
12:10 When I've thought about this, it this has
12:11 gone exactly how I thought it would go.
12:14 You're like, Adam, you are the second greatest producer of all time.
12:19 Who uh you think you think you get your flowers?
12:21 Actually,
12:22 you know,
12:22 in terms of like all that of of of in the industry itself,
12:27 producer specifically, I don't know.
12:29 I think this I mean I see it a lot.
12:32 You know what I mean?
12:32 I'm always in somebody's top five or whatever.
12:34 Whatever.
12:36 But um it's like nobody validates me.
12:39 Yeah.
12:39 You know what I mean?
12:40 I say it's Phil Spectre than you.
12:43 Hey.
12:44 Yeah.
12:44 Phil was good.
12:45 He was pretty good.
12:46 And[ __] But I think that uh No.
12:49 No.
12:49 On the real world, nobody don't take me can validate me or invalidate me, bro.
12:54 You don't I don't really care what anyone thinks of this.
12:56 That's no sense.
12:57 It's nice being middle-aged.
12:59 Yeah.
12:59 Right.
12:59 You don't give a[ __]
13:00 I don't have to be cool anymore.
13:02 I stink.
13:03 I stink.
13:04 And if you're watching this, shame on you.
13:06 You're You're a loser.
13:10 We're gonna upgrade you, though.
13:11 We're gonna upgrade you.
13:12 Did you have like a Do you like a lineage?
13:14 Cuz I feel like when like we should get
13:18 to the movie because I know you're promoting it.
13:19 Don't worry, bro.
13:21 I got like a million questions that I've had my entire life, but like,
13:24 let me let me start this.
13:25 Let me look, ladies and gentlemen.
13:26 It's my first time here.
13:28 May 1st, I will say, hold on.
13:30 I'm interrupting this guy.
13:31 He's going to get me back for this.
13:33 But yo, bro, I'm just here to have fun with you and spend some time with you.
13:35 Me, too.
13:36 That's all I want to do.
13:37 Also, I'm just trying to chill.
13:39 Okay, that's it, bro.
13:41 I should I should do a proper introduction, ladies and gentlemen.
13:44 He doesn't need one.
13:45 It's Thea um his new film.
13:49 What's the name of your new film?
13:50 One Spoon of Chocolate.
13:52 It is in theaters May 1st.
13:54 Everyone go see it.
13:55 It is uh inspired by your own life.
13:57 It's your story.
13:57 It's inspired by a lot of[ __] bro.
13:59 It's the inflection point kind of of everything for you.
14:02 Yes, it's a lot of things going on in there.
14:03 It's inspired by true events.
14:06 And I think uh now they now be promoting my film.
14:08 At first we just chilling and[ __] but now
14:10 that we promote my film, I will say that
14:12 cuz the cuz the money men here, all they care about is the dollars.
14:15 They're looking at me.
14:16 They're like, "Promote the film.
14:17 Why did you do you paid good money for this?"
14:21 Well, all you care about is your brands and your
14:24 and your commercial.
14:26 Yeah.
14:26 Yeah, but I will say I will say
14:27 that it's definitely a film that will hit every emotion.
14:31 You know what I mean?
14:31 Like you're going to get you're going to feel comfortable,
14:33 uncomfortable, happy, sad,
14:35 uh fulfilled, and you still may walk away with some questions.
14:38 And that's what cinema should do.
14:39 Cinema should make you be like, "Yo, woo, that was good." You know what I mean?
14:44 There's something about you that's like movies
14:46 and music is is kind of one thing.
14:48 Like I mean like the first time you listen to 36 Chambers
14:51 or like any of the you know the albums that you produce
14:54 for the for the solo albums that you produce for them it's all like
14:58 just s some of the I mean like we we listen to liquid swords that's
15:01 about 2 minutes of a sample that's that's a long one up top
15:07 but like you are do you view music as cinema in a way like
15:12 are you like are you experiencing an album like it's a kind of like
15:16 a ambition my ambition was to make albums that was like audio movies.
15:21 Uh remember I'm making movie or I'm making
15:24 music back when you there's no DVDs, bro.
15:28 That was like one of the questions I had.
15:30 How did you see so so much
15:33 like specifically black exploitation and kung fu movies?
15:36 Like how were you exposed I guess growing up to like
15:39 Oh, VHS was everything.
15:41 Yeah.
15:42 I was I I actually had a uh I actually
15:45 bought I tried to start my own video uh store
15:50 in Ohio and so I bought all the[ __]
15:53 movies from this video store in Staten Island.
15:55 So my collection is ridiculous on VHS.
15:58 I'm talking about thousands of VHS movies and I watch[ __] you know what I mean?
16:02 I I dig I was digging through movies
16:04 like we like people dig through crates of records, you know what I mean?
16:07 And so and my goal was so New Yorkers we
16:11 would leave New York and drive to Virginia DC or Virginia.
16:17 Yeah.
16:16 This was when the street pharmaceutical business was uh part of the trade.
16:22 Uhhuh.
16:23 Right.
16:23 The Viagra Dallas.
16:25 Yeah.
16:25 Before that.
16:25 Yeah.
16:25 Yeah.
16:26 Before that.
16:26 Okay.
16:27 This[ __] This[ __] This[ __] probably shrink your dick.
16:30 All right.
16:31 Oh yeah.
16:33 That's the worst experience in the world which is like
16:36 Yeah.
16:36 Yeah, this[ __] probably was shrinking people dicks.
16:38 Cut that, please.
16:38 Please cut that.
16:40 Please cut that.
16:41 Wait, this is a Greek curse on this[ __] bro.
16:43 Yeah.
16:43 Oh,[ __] yeah.
16:44 Okay, make sure.
16:45 But anyway, driving down to Yo,
16:48 when you drive through when you drive, I always wanted somebody, you know,
16:51 with a big[ __] binge to put my cassette
16:54 in and[ __] go on a journey while he's driving.
16:57 That was like my ambition to like have a audio movie.
17:01 And so my music was always made to be listened from beginning to end.
17:05 I wasn't really thinking about singles and and hit records.
17:08 I was thinking about cinematic experiences
17:11 without knowing the word was called cinematic.
17:13 You know what I mean?
17:14 And then eventually of course
17:16 I realized that all along I am a film director
17:21 but the toys I had was a sampler,
17:23 a turntable or four track machine or a beat machine.
17:26 Now of course I've been blessed and I got[ __] you know I mean the whole set.
17:33 Yeah.
17:33 You know what I mean?
17:33 So, I mean, you've scored films, of course, like the Tarantino films.
17:37 Uh, you you also wait,
17:39 did you see that clip of him that one time when he was on 106 in Park?
17:44 I see it.
17:44 Oh, you boy.
17:46 It's he he's being very He has a lot of stank on what the way he's talking.
17:54 He's putting a lot of st he's like Yeah.
17:57 What he do?
17:57 He's on BET where he's like he's Yeah.
18:00 But he's talking like 70s black guy because which matches I guess his movies.
18:04 But the code switching is is one of the funniest video.
18:07 Yeah,
18:08 I got to see that.
18:08 So y'all what the what up Slick?
18:11 Give me give me a little touch.
18:13 Slick.
18:14 Yeah, he's talking like a pimp.
18:16 Well, that goes You know what?
18:17 All your slang.
18:19 I know.
18:19 He's a friend.
18:20 He's a friend of No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
18:23 Definitely.
18:23 You know, that's Yeah.
18:23 No, he's I call him the godfather in my film world,
18:27 right?
18:27 But all no, this goes with anybody.
18:30 Everybody's slang depends on your[ __] age, bro.
18:35 True.
18:34 If you if you if you meet a dude in the 60s from 1965 to 75,
18:39 he going, "What up, J turkey?" You're like, "What the[ __] is that?"
18:42 It's like listening It's like listening
18:44 to a Lenny Bruce comedy album where he's like, "This cat over here."
18:48 Yeah, this cat.
18:49 What the[ __] is that?
18:49 Like, what the[ __] is this?
18:51 Is this funny to people?
18:52 Yeah.
18:52 But the funniest thing worse is that the[ __] come back around.
18:55 Yo, now everybody's like, "Yo, bro." "Yo,
18:57 bro." Do you do that a lot now from these kids?
18:59 Were you from the bro generation?
19:01 No, the the bro was before me.
19:03 Oh, bro.
19:04 But
19:05 he came before me.
19:06 When did bro first pop up?
19:07 I'm from the sun.
19:07 Yo, what up, son?
19:09 Son, that's me.
19:09 What up, son?
19:10 That's New York, though.
19:11 But that's me.
19:12 It's so funny how I was just like listen, you know what I'm saying?
19:14 I was listening to the infamous and just copying the way they're talking.
19:18 Yeah, bro.
19:18 As a Jew, as a Jewish boy, like literally when I moved to New York,
19:22 where you moved from?
19:23 I got to know.
19:23 I lived in DC before that and then I grew up in Vegas pretty much.
19:27 Yeah, that's Wait, that's a weird place to grow up.
19:29 I mean, I mean the ping pong is is definitely
19:32 I went to college in DC and then I started comedy then I went to New York.
19:35 Uh but like I was literally on the G train listening to the infamous.
19:38 I was like like I was I was like uh like uh Emily in Paris,
19:44 but I was like but I was like they're rapping about the G- Train in this song,
19:50 right?
19:51 wasn't bad.
19:51 And if anyone knew what was going through my mind on the train,
19:54 they'd be like, "This is the lamest guy of all time." Yeah.
19:58 But son and th is and for me also, you know, from New York,
20:02 ever since we was 11, we was calling each other, "Yo, yo, what up, God?
20:05 Peace God.
20:06 Yo, G." Yeah.
20:07 You know what I mean?
20:08 So that's respect.
20:08 That's nice.
20:09 Yeah.
20:09 So it was always So all that bro Turkey[ __]
20:14 none of that[ __] made it to to me.
20:16 Was Staten Island considered like you were like a country bumpkin at the time?
20:19 No.
20:19 Was it?
20:20 But you guys were the first kind of act.
20:22 Yeah.
20:22 I mean, people now New York did look at Staten Island as a forgotten burrow.
20:25 Yeah.
20:25 They're like, "What the hell is or these
20:27 until they came over?
20:28 These waps." Oh, these[ __] deos over here.
20:33 A lot of a lot of Italian brothers over there.
20:36 Yeah.
20:36 Sorry to their friend friends of the show, the Italian.
20:39 Yeah.
20:39 But they came over there cuz yo,
20:41 you could come to Stan Island with all that other sucker[ __] Yeah.
20:43 Yeah.
20:44 And don't go home.
20:45 What was it like growing up around those guys?
20:47 Which guys?
20:47 the you know the the Italians.
20:49 Oh, those are those those are those are my peoples.
20:51 Y I was in I mean the last Yo I'm in school.
20:54 I'm in the eighth grade and my classmate last name is Costalano.
21:00 Uhhuh.
21:01 Okay.
21:01 So that says
21:03 Yeah.
21:02 All good.
21:02 I'm like I spend a night.
21:04 I mean cuz he had
21:06 a castle.
21:06 Oh yeah.
21:06 He had Atari.
21:07 He had Atari back when you know what I mean?
21:09 So you remember hanging out with a rich kid
21:11 who sucked but he had all the gaming systems?
21:15 Yeah.
21:14 Yeah.
21:14 That sucked.
21:15 Yeah.
21:15 Yeah.
21:15 He just had all the games.
21:17 And you have a you have a bar with a cartridge and never take it back.
21:20 Of course you
21:21 tell his dad to buy him another one.
21:25 That's what you get for being[ __] 1%.
21:30 No, but um Wait, so so you were born in Brooklyn.
21:33 You grew up in Staten Island and and in the South and Midwest and all over.
21:37 By the time I was 21, I lived in 20 locations.
21:42 Uhhuh.
21:41 Yeah.
21:41 Not by choice.
21:42 It just happened to be that way for me.
21:44 I think what's clear like from the early records is like
21:48 you were using like soul a lot of soul samples which is
21:52 kind of like I think do you feel like you were
21:53 one of the first producers kind of because that's defined hip-hop production.
21:58 I mean Kanye's first three albums don't happen.
22:01 I think if you don't put that like Yeah.
22:04 Yeah.
22:04 I think I definitely helped bring that into it.
22:07 The emotion of a soul record.
22:09 I actually realized that that[ __] A minor chord
22:12 Uhhuh.
22:12 was everything.
22:13 Breaks your heart.
22:14 Yeah.
22:15 And then you'll see like even though Lisa Keys first came out, it's an A minor.
22:20 Yeah.
22:19 That that that that scale that those chords
22:23 I think it was something about them
22:24 that uh that that really attracted me sonically.
22:27 Not even I didn't know what the[ __] it was, bro.
22:29 I didn't even know what a C chord was.
22:31 When I I made a platinum album and you go, "Hey, hit the C note."
22:35 I'm like, "Hold on, bro.
22:36 Let me just I might dig in my pocket try to bring
22:38 it think it's a a casino know it's a $100 bill.
22:42 Uhhuh.
22:41 You know what I mean?
22:43 And just for the record uh speaking of a minor,
22:46 no one has ever come forward and said that they were molested by Drake.
22:50 It's a very cruel.
22:52 It is a cruel anti-semitic.
22:55 It was clearly a hit job.
22:58 He was one of the first artists to sign the Palestine letter
23:01 and DJ Khaled hasn't done it yet actually despite being the most famous Palest.
23:13 This guy likes it.
23:15 I just want to put that out there.
23:17 The A minor is just a chord, right?
23:20 Well, it is just a chord.
23:21 And it's at the Grammys, the Super Bowl, and the Oscars.
23:25 at the Oscars.
23:26 What does the[ __] song have to do with movies?
23:28 Sorry, don't get me started.
23:30 It is one of the most anti-Semitic things I've ever seen.
23:36 Can you Can you wait till May 15th?
23:37 Are you excited about May 15th?
23:39 I'm so excited.
23:40 Okay.
23:40 Make sure.
23:40 Okay.
23:41 Everybody know.
23:41 Do you know Do you know the Do you know the product?
23:44 Do you know my my friend the I would assume he
23:47 will be as good a friends as us if we do.
23:50 You know Aubrey Drake.
23:51 Uh Greg,
23:53 I you say you called him Aby.
23:55 You stupid
23:56 Aubrey.
23:56 Uh, you know what?
23:57 We know each other from the meetings.
23:59 I met him.
23:59 I met him.
24:00 I respect him.
24:01 Uh,
24:02 yeah.
24:03 I'm like like sometime I know you, right?
24:08 Uhhuh.
24:07 And it's and and I can't say I know him, right?
24:10 Yeah.
24:11 But you have his phone number maybe or
24:13 No, I have I have his pop's phone number and[ __]
24:15 You have Whoa.
24:17 You do, man.
24:18 Cuz his dad his dad's brother was uh inside the Family Stone.
24:21 Is that correct?
24:23 Nah, I don't know.
24:24 I don't know the history.
24:25 I think his father was in Dennis Graham.
24:27 Yeah.
24:27 They was from Memphis.
24:28 Yeah.
24:29 I think his uncle was in
24:30 Yeah.
24:30 I think I think I think they've been in music their whole life.
24:35 Yeah.
24:33 And[ __] But um but I know if you' asked me this a few years ago,
24:38 you know, so I go, "Yeah, I know him." But then I'm saying to myself like,
24:40 "Yo, you don't really know." Like I said, even if we met today,
24:44 somebody said, "Oh, you know, yeah, I know him." Well, we hung out, my dude.
24:48 I wouldn't say that.
24:49 You can't say I know this[ __] I wouldn't say I'd be humble about it.
24:52 I met I met this[ __]
24:53 I would say I met but in my head I know we know each other well.
24:58 So So but but but but yeah but I'm a I'm a fan of Drake music.
25:02 I met him.
25:03 He's a cool[ __] When did you make it when the kid
25:05 these seeing the seeing these uh knuckleheads battles?
25:08 Yeah.
25:08 Knuckleheads.
25:09 Listen, bro.
25:09 That's part I'm from New York.
25:12 Yeah.
25:11 That's how hip-hop tapes started circulating.
25:14 Like it was like yo, you heard this tape of Bizzy B and Kumo D?
25:18 Yeah.
25:18 You like what?
25:18 Put it in.
25:19 and they[ __] talking[ __] about each other or they battling,
25:22 you know what I mean?
25:22 So, hip-hop has been that, you know what I mean?
25:25 But it's part it's part of hip-hop is a sport.
25:28 Don't get it twisted.
25:29 Who did you guys have problems with early on?
25:33 Nobody.
25:32 Nobody cuz you do karate and beat them up.
25:34 They were probably afraid of the karate.
25:36 Well, we had our battles before we became famous.
25:38 We used to get on the train and look for[ __]
25:41 Really?
25:42 Seriously?
25:43 Really?
25:43 Yo, bro.
25:43 Even as a DJ, I I'll give you one little egotistical one.
25:47 Yo, as a DJ, bro, from Staten Island,
25:51 I got on the ferry to the[ __] train to go way to the Bronx
25:56 to a project building that I never been to to battle a[ __] at a house party.
26:06 Uhhuh.
26:06 That's hip-hop.
26:07 Yeah.
26:07 You know what I'm saying?
26:08 Beat this[ __] then go back.
26:11 You just doing it just to beat him and head back home.
26:14 You ain't get no money.
26:16 Yeah.
26:15 You ain't get nothing.
26:16 All you know is that you beat that[ __]
26:19 Do you get his girlfriend or something or you don't get nothing?
26:22 You don't get anything.
26:23 Nothing.
26:23 I did the same.
26:24 Yo, I did it.
26:25 Yo, then then two weeks later
26:27 they're like, "Yo, they got this DJ in Lower East said
26:29 he could get you." It's always some guy that know some guy.
26:31 What an idiot, right?
26:32 He's like, "Yo." I'm like, "Yeah, I'll be there Saturday."
26:35 You go there, turntables out, block party.
26:38 You ain't You don't even belong there, bro.
26:41 Uhhuh.
26:40 You know what I mean?
26:41 You a fish out of water in all reality, but hip-hop is so big now.
26:44 You battling.
26:45 You beat the guy.
26:46 Now guns come out.
26:48 __] SHOOTING.
26:48 BLOW BLOW BLOW BLOW.
26:49 YOU LAUGHING.
26:51 You're laughing at the guns.
26:51 Yeah.
26:52 You laughing.
26:53 Really?
26:52 You know what I'm saying?
26:53 Because it's just like, yo, I could burn all y'all[ __] I'm the best.
26:57 And your hands are lethal weapons probably
26:58 from all those movies you've been watching.
27:00 But that's hip-hop.
27:02 Yeah.
27:02 Like that's that's the era of hip-hop when it
27:04 was like it was such a passion to be great.
27:06 Such a passion to be number one.
27:07 So So when it started becoming music and making
27:10 songs and all that, it that sport did travel over.
27:14 Now it dwindled
27:16 and it led to
27:18 damages in the 90s of course you know we think about Pac and and Beg,
27:22 you know what I mean?
27:23 Um it I think it ended admirable with Jay and Nas, you know what I mean?
27:27 They actually ended up working mean that one got very mean.
27:30 Yeah, but they end up working.
27:32 And then we get to Drake and Kendrick.
27:34 It was like, well, it hasn't been nothing really in a while.
27:37 And then this becomes not just[ __] hip-hop, bro.
27:40 This became world news.
27:42 Uhhuh.
27:42 Like like you could be watching[ __] uh the view
27:46 and the girls are and the the ladies at the table talking about
27:50 drink and Kendrick like hold on it became like a boxing[ __] Yeah.
27:58 I'll pass you to Mike cuz anyway
28:04 well I thought in the third round family's
28:07 matter is he switched up the flow four times.
28:10 The way that fat the way fat 40-year-old white guys with beards were taking
28:15 That's no saying, bro.
28:16 That's what I'm saying.
28:16 I hated that.
28:17 They were like they were like, "Well, if you analyze, you know,
28:20 the the cadence of the the flow in the fourth round,
28:24 I'm going to give this one." Shut up.
28:26 Shut up.
28:28 I gota ask you a question, bro.
28:29 Why is the MPC here on the floor?
28:32 The MPC 1000.
28:35 All right.
28:36 I was smoking a Corona Dutch Master blunt
28:38 in college with Ari Stern over there and we were
28:41 one time and we were listening Arthur's scene
28:43 by Christopher Cross and we're like someone should chop this
28:48 into into you know you know the song when you
28:50 get lost between the moon and New York City Christopher Cross.
28:56 I just played Christopher Cross.
28:57 I just did a yacht rock show.
29:00 Really?
29:00 Sirius XM really?
29:01 Yeah.
29:01 They say I'm going to be the guest DJ.
29:03 No, he wasn't there.
29:04 Uh they
29:05 you know what happened to him?
29:06 They thought he was going to be next the ne up next and then one album
29:10 but it was before there was like then his face they said
29:15 what happened he gained weight or some[ __]
29:16 No they said he wasn't people saw that he wasn't handsome.
29:24 No
29:23 I don't want to[ __] on the guy.
29:24 He made music.
29:25 I seen his documentary broing.
29:33 Yeah.
29:33 You can't knock that kid,
29:34 dude.
29:34 I love that one with the flamingo.
29:36 The green whatever sailing, I think it's called.
29:38 Yeah,
29:40 right.
29:39 Oh, on the way to Mexico, right?
29:41 Yeah.
29:41 He's on his way to[ __] Mexico.
29:44 You was you you made you you proposed in Mexico.
29:46 I proposed.
29:47 Yeah.
29:47 I I I break Makes sense.
29:49 I see the Christopher Cross connection now.
29:51 It's all coming.
29:51 I did it for I Wait.
29:56 So like Okay.
30:01 So Ari put these samples on his NPC.
30:08 I don't know.
30:08 I mean, uh, we loaded it and I wanted to do it.
30:11 I mean, it's kind of offensive.
30:13 I mean, it's like saying like I'm going to make
30:14 George Martin make a new Beatles song for me.
30:23 Yeah.
30:23 What's that?
30:30 He knew.
30:30 He knew already.
30:32 Best.
30:37 How did we That's exact.
30:41 Grabbing tits.
30:46 Wait, that that was literally what we were saying.
30:48 That just if you loop the best that you can do.
30:52 I mean, it's kind of adjust.
30:53 Yo, somebody should DO THAT.
30:54 YO, BRO, DO IT.
30:55 DON'T KNOCK IT.
30:56 You can do do it.
30:58 No, no, not me.
30:58 Cuz cuz the samples cost more when I do it.
31:02 We'll just do for as an exercise.
31:05 We're going to get demonetized.
31:06 Oh, I don't give a[ __] Wait, folks, you ain't going to Listen,
31:09 they're going to edit all this[ __] out your[ __] bro.
31:12 No.
31:12 Who's they?
31:12 The rabbis?
31:13 No, they're not going to take anything from me.
31:15 I'm on to them.
31:16 I'm on to them.
31:17 I saw what you did to Michael.
31:18 You're not going to do it to me.
31:20 You're going to play his content.
31:21 It's going to be like this content has no[ __] audio.
31:24 Just Just But if you were just maybe we'll edit it out, but if you were
31:30 I'm going do it another day and see.
31:31 What about just maybe But
31:32 yo, that's a great moment in talk show history right here.
31:36 It's Yeah, I I listen I will say this.
31:38 It's a good shot, bro.
31:39 I think you got to.
31:45 Oh, that tempo.
31:46 Let me see.
31:46 Hold on.
31:47 And then you maybe pitch it up like a little Yeah.
31:49 Yeah.
31:49 Pitch it up.
31:50 And you got to take off.
31:51 You got to put your velocities at full level
31:54 on your MP.
31:55 Exactly.
31:55 That's why that button right there.
31:56 There you go.
31:57 It's just a It's just a button.
31:58 You know what I mean?
31:59 And then you go and
32:00 then you look if it's off is this like that.
32:05 But if you hit it here, every time you hit it, you know what I mean?
32:08 The best life.
32:09 If they take it off and then put it on one shot,
32:11 you got it on You got it on pulse and[ __] bro.
32:14 Oh, you can change it in the program window.
32:16 I know what you do.
32:18 I'm telling you.
32:19 I'm telling you that you supposed to have
32:20 that[ __] if you wanted me to[ __] around.
32:22 supposed to have the[ __] ready to go.
32:24 Ari, I thought you would have the program window for him.
32:26 Why we wanted it?
32:27 He changed it.
32:28 This is the best day of my life.
32:29 All right.
32:30 So, he got it on Velocity.
32:33 Yeah.
32:32 But anyway, wait.
32:34 Yeah.
32:34 No.
32:34 Back to another question, bro.
32:36 Just you caressing the pads of Mr.
32:38 Ari Stern's uh NPC.
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37:16 So where you get those shoes from yo?
37:18 Uh I got them like I like the ridges right here.
37:22 I got them in Texas doing Austin.
37:24 Yeah.
37:24 Austin.
37:25 See, we was in Yo, bro.
37:27 I only own one pair of cowboy boots.
37:31 Yeah.
37:30 And I got them from[ __] Austin, Texas.
37:32 Where'd you get them?
37:33 At Lucazy.
37:34 That's the[ __] That's where I got these, too.
37:36 But I found out that that's where a Dallas businessman gets them.
37:39 And not real cowboys.
37:41 Well, we Well, we know we don't got horses, you know.
37:43 Yeah, we don't got horses.
37:43 We don't got horses.
37:44 We got
37:45 We're just passing through.
37:47 __] passing through.
37:48 Of course, dude.
37:48 We're just two guys living life.
37:50 Yeah.
37:50 Passing through.
37:52 Not the like the the money guys over here.
37:55 We're just living.
37:56 Uh we're the artists.
38:00 Exactly.
37:59 Um well, let's I one thing that was I said
38:02 to you before the show that was like uh I
38:05 had no idea the inflection point that we're kind of referencing
38:08 before was like you you caught a charge in 1993.
38:13 Y April
38:14 the charge was in' 91 before the charge.
38:18 Yeah.
38:17 I got acquitted in 92.
38:19 92.
38:19 Yeah.
38:19 and Wu Tank comes in 93.
38:21 How do you do so like how how is 36 Chambers
38:24 the first you know like how is it so perfect immediately?
38:28 I think, thank you for saying that, for saying it's perfect,
38:30 but I think that what happened is that it's years of us trying,
38:35 right?
38:36 So, in my hood, there's tapes that's floating around.
38:39 Even some of the lyrics on 36 Chambers is referencing songs you never heard,
38:43 but only people heard it was the people in our projects.
38:46 Yeah.
38:46 So, we had So, so by the time you meet Wuang,
38:49 right, I just use uh use I use myself as an example.
38:53 You meet me, I'm 21, 22 years old.
38:55 I've been writing lyrics since I was 9 years old.
38:58 Yeah.
38:58 So now you don't met a guy who's been doing this[ __] 10 to 12 years,
39:02 right?
39:01 That done ran through New York City and B.
39:04 Yeah.
39:04 But even though I'm a kid,
39:06 right?
39:06 You know what I'm saying?
39:07 So then the Jiza doing it even longer and stronger.
39:11 So that's why I come his verses on that first album.
39:13 He probably got some of the best verses
39:15 on the first album because he was the best of us.
39:18 You know what I'm saying?
39:19 And then you see me is a couple of years younger.
39:22 ghost a couple of years younger,
39:23 but by the time you get the Cuban links, like, oh[ __]
39:26 now they getting their 10, 12, 13 year mark.
39:30 Uhhuh.
39:29 You know what I mean?
39:29 So, so, so 36 Chambers is capturing these dudes, right?
39:36 Approaching mastery level.
39:38 Some of us were at mastery level.
39:40 Some of us were advanced regardless.
39:42 You know what I mean?
39:42 Like like Naj, I call him an advanced MC.
39:45 He was 19, right, when he made
39:46 Yeah, but he was 16 when he was already considered like,
39:48 yo, who the[ __] is this mother?
39:50 Yeah.
39:51 Yeah.
39:51 So, so, so it's that kind of energy.
39:53 So, but going back to what you were saying far as the story
39:56 and the point and this is just this is not funny.
40:01 You can make a joke out of it, but
40:02 I'm not going to.
40:03 Yes, you.
40:03 I refuse.
40:04 Okay.
40:05 So, from the time that I stopped being a negative[ __] Yeah.
40:12 You know what I mean?
40:12 Which was April 22nd, wasn't even a year later,
40:16 bro, that I was able to be platinum.
40:20 Yeah.
40:21 And but before that, every time I try to do something,
40:24 which was mostly negative,[ __] was failing.
40:28 Yeah.
40:27 And so I always tell young people that, yo, positive is not a easy road.
40:32 Like, like you look at me man with muscles, that ain't come overnight, bro.
40:35 You got to go to the gym, bro.
40:37 Go work out.
40:37 You know what I mean?
40:38 Work your material out, bro.
40:40 And don't be deterred because something that could easily tell tell you to turn
40:45 left and[ __] up all the[ __] that you the true your true calling.
40:49 And for me, art was my true calling.
40:51 Even though I was trying to be everything else but an artist.
40:54 Yeah.
40:54 It's just like you have to catch L's probably to get better.
40:57 Yeah.
40:57 Or you got to catch No, you Well, let me
41:00 You got to[ __] up a bunch of times before like you have to work your ass off.
41:03 You got to work your ass off, but you don't got to[ __] up.
41:06 I tell people that like you don't got to go through hell.
41:08 I went through hell.
41:09 I've been through hell.
41:11 Yeah, me too, bro.
41:12 All right.
41:12 We've been through hell.
41:14 Now,
41:15 I I wouldn't say I anybody else who got to go through hell.
41:17 I'm saying whatever hell it is.
41:19 Yeah.
41:19 Yeah.
41:19 Right.
41:20 When you have your when you have your son,
41:21 you ain't going to want him to go through your hell, his hell got to be.
41:24 If he going through your hell, then you ain't do your job.
41:26 God forbid.
41:26 Yeah.
41:29 Yeah.
41:29 Just agony of being alive.
41:31 You feel me though?
41:32 I feel you 100%.
41:33 Yeah.
41:33 So, so I So, so, so my son didn't go through my hell.
41:36 I know that for a fact.
41:39 Sure.
41:38 He's most laidback non salon.
41:40 He wakes up at 1:00 in the afternoon.
41:43 Got a Are you do you think that they were like rich kids?
41:45 You know who?
41:47 Your kids, right?
41:48 You know what?
41:49 Cuz like you're you grew up in the projects, right?
41:50 And you're like you guys are[ __][ __] No, I wouldn't say that.
41:55 I wouldn't call them that, right?
41:56 Because I didn't.
41:57 But it's just like come on.
41:58 You suck boys.
42:00 No.
42:00 No.
42:01 They're rich and hard.
42:01 They're rich and hard.
42:02 They got you in.
42:04 They got rich and hard.
42:04 But they didn't have to be Yo, I met a dude, bro.
42:08 And I talk about this dude a lot,
42:09 but he and and and I know he expects me to talk about him.
42:13 He's a serious dude.
42:15 You know what I mean?
42:16 Um did did his time, did his crime, did his time, but
42:21 no, this dude, this dude is deep.
42:23 I won't say his name,
42:25 but he told me that while he was in jail,
42:28 he read one of my articles that came out
42:31 whatever in one of these magazines where I was like,
42:34 "Yo, at the end of the day, I'm a[ __] nerd, bro." Uhhuh.
42:37 Right.
42:37 I'm You give me some electronic[ __] As soon as I saw this[ __] I was like,
42:41 "Yo, ready to pick it up."
42:43 Give me a comic book.
42:46 Uhhuh.
42:45 Right.
42:45 So, this dude, he was in jail with another dude who was in there for murder.
42:51 Yeah.
42:50 And he probably shot about multiple people.
42:53 This guy is like shooting[ __] All right.
42:57 Jesus.
42:56 But at the end of the day, when they was talking to each other,
43:00 they it's like, yo, at the end of the day, this dude could fix computer.
43:02 This dude was a nerd.
43:03 They're both nerds.
43:04 Exactly.
43:05 They gangsters now.
43:06 They don't get it twisted, but they nerds.
43:07 The gangster is the
43:09 is the is part of the uh the environment made you have to be that.
43:14 The circumstances made you have to be that.
43:17 You know what I mean?
43:18 It's almost like uh um um yo, bro, I'm a vegan.
43:23 Right.
43:23 Right.
43:23 But pause.
43:25 If I got a[ __] I'm sorry.
43:26 Why did I say that?
43:28 I don't know.
43:29 Yeah.
43:30 I don't know why I said that.
43:31 That's okay.
43:31 I'm a vegan though.
43:32 But check this out.
43:33 And why would where do I get the confidence?
43:36 It[ __] if it get tough, bro.
43:38 I'm eating meat, kid.
43:40 Yeah, sure.
43:42 Sure.
43:42 Sure.
43:42 Sure.
43:45 But this guy's stupid.
43:49 Wow.
43:50 It's the BEST DAY OF MY LIFE.
43:51 HOLD ON.
43:51 HOLD ON.
43:51 NO, NO, NO.
43:52 YO, WHEN YOU GOT when[ __] say pause, right?
43:55 It's so funny.
43:55 Somebody else could be like, "Yo,[ __] it,[ __] Rewind."
43:57 It's the middle.
43:59 There was one There was one uh I just I like this guy.
44:03 Do you know every Do you know every Do you know every affiliate's name?
44:08 Oh, that's
44:09 You can't possibly know.
44:10 I don't think I could do that.
44:11 But let's[ __] around.
44:12 Let's see what you got.
44:13 Wait, by the way, at our Jewish summer camp,
44:16 a a Wuang affiliate came and performed like there were like Oh, remedy.
44:23 He did Never Again for us.
44:25 Holy[ __] Yeah.
44:26 And like there was like like Rebecca Goldstein and we were like grinding.
44:31 It's like for him as a gig.
44:33 For him as a gig.
44:34 Yeah.
44:34 To an to an to a Holocaust song.
44:37 Also, you had a guy named Warcloud aka the Holocaust.
44:41 Yeah.
44:41 His name was Holocaust first.
44:43 Holocaust.
44:43 Then then they was like, "Yo,
44:44 you might want to shift that." Then he went then he went Holocaust.
44:47 Yeah.
44:47 And Holocaust died last year.
44:49 He died.
44:49 Yeah.
44:51 Yeah.
44:50 You know who knows Holocaust?
44:53 Verbatim.
44:53 First time I Seth Rogan, bro.
44:55 Seth Rogan's friends with the Holocaust.
44:56 No, he's not friends with Holocaust, but he yo,
44:59 he knew that when I first met him, he dropped that 16 like it wasn't[ __]
45:04 Oh, I mean, it's a thing that we would know if you had a guy named Holocaust.
45:11 Holocaust died last year after October 7th and everything.
45:15 I can't believe.
45:16 Cut me.
45:16 Cut me.
45:17 You have a guy named Dexter Wiggles.
45:19 Oh, you know Dexter Wiggles?
45:20 I'm reading the funniest names that I found.
45:23 Oh, go like this.
45:23 How do you know Dex Dexter Wiggles?
45:25 cuz I read a list of all the 3,000 Wu Tang.
45:28 How do you How do you even join?
45:30 How do How do How do you What's
45:32 Keep Give me some more names first.
45:33 Cheesy Rat.
45:35 Now, that guy didn't make it, bro.
45:36 I don't know him.
45:38 Now, now you're going into the unknown chart that[ __] Rap Master One.
45:41 That's a terrible name.
45:42 You should have
45:43 I don't know that one either.
45:43 He didn't make it.
45:44 Yeah.
45:44 Polite.
45:45 I like that.
45:46 Yeah.
45:46 Polite made it.
45:47 Polite is that's nice.
45:48 Yeah.
45:48 Polite.
45:48 Yeah.
45:48 Polite is a he's a That's my man.
45:51 Yeah.
45:51 Give me another one.
45:51 What's up?
45:51 Say please and thank you and excuse me.
45:55 Um uh Spanky Splash.
45:58 Wait, hold on.
45:59 Hold on.
45:59 Shorty[ __] stain.
46:01 There's a shorty[ __] stain.
46:05 No serious.
46:06 You know what?
46:06 My no shorty.
46:07 Yo.
46:08 Yo.
46:10 Yo, my[ __] Hold on.
46:11 Listen.
46:11 Shorty sister.
46:12 No, I would never my cousin.
46:15 I'm a big That's your cousin.
46:16 I'm a big fan.
46:18 Yeah.
46:18 It's just a funny name.
46:20 Yo, shorty shit's name.
46:21 __] thing.
46:22 Yo, what is it?
46:22 What is he need to poop his pants or something?
46:25 I am kind of short.
46:27 Yo, mine is Give me another one.
46:29 The coward.
46:30 Wait, this guy
46:31 No.
46:31 No.
46:31 Who's the cow?
46:31 That's not in it, bro.
46:32 I should I heard crazy allegations against this one guy.
46:36 Go like these parties where there were like abuses.
46:38 There's a guy named T.
46:39 Diddy.
46:42 No.
46:42 Did you see the trial?
46:45 No.
46:45 How did you have this monster in your as one of
46:48 He's stupid.
46:48 Yo,
46:49 T.
46:49 Diddy.
46:51 What?
46:52 He's an impersonator, bro.
46:53 But as a real guy.
46:55 No,
46:55 no, no.
46:56 Someone just put T.
46:57 Diddy on the list.
46:58 Yeah.
46:58 Give me another one.
47:00 Attic.
47:00 That's funny.
47:01 No.
47:01 Asiatic, bro.
47:02 Yeah.
47:02 Yeah.
47:02 Yeah.
47:03 Okay.
47:03 That's too on the nose for like a woozang.
47:07 What you got?
47:08 Uh, stomach with a K.
47:11 Don't know him.
47:12 Uh, uh, Mike Boston.
47:19 And it's not like microphone with a C.
47:21 It's M I K E Boston.
47:23 You know what?
47:23 I don't know.
47:25 Hey, it's the first time I heard that[ __] name though.
47:28 But I don't know him.
47:30 G.
47:30 What you got?
47:31 Bellic brought a lot of rings to the city.
47:34 Who?
47:34 No.
47:34 No.
47:34 I'm just thinking of Mike Boston.
47:38 __]
47:37 There's a guy named DL.
47:39 Yeah.
47:39 On the DL.
47:45 Give me another I heard some things about DL and the Holocaust with
47:51 uh Legion of Skanks.
47:54 Nope.
47:55 Zakamo.
47:55 No.
47:55 You getting some[ __] now, bro.
47:58 Cigar.
47:59 Nope.
47:59 Cigar is one is on the list.
48:01 I know.
48:02 Cheesy Rat.
48:02 I told you, bro.
48:03 No cheesy rats, bro.
48:05 I think it is.
48:05 He was in the Chuck-E-Cheese band, was he?
48:09 Oh, stupid.
48:10 Yeah.
48:10 Yeah.
48:11 The animatronic band.
48:12 I remember that.
48:12 Remember that[ __] That was so sick.
48:14 Well, first of all, every time you take your kids there,
48:16 they come back home sick.
48:18 Yeah.
48:18 Well, there's disgusting diarrhea of food.
48:21 But, uh, __] black ass Billy the Kid.
48:24 He's cool.
48:25 I don't know.
48:25 Black ass Billy the Kid.
48:27 Well, there's a there's a cousin Billy.
48:29 Cousin Billy.
48:30 Yeah, you got that on there.
48:31 No, I mean there's more on the He some selects.
48:35 Give me some good ones, bro.
48:37 I mean, good ones.
48:37 What shorty should say is one of the best one of the best I've ever heard.
48:42 Wait.
48:43 Uh, okay.
48:44 Let's let's go back to the list.
48:46 Okay.
48:46 Uh, the Holocaust.
48:48 It's so funny.
48:50 Insane.
48:51 Let me tell you something about Holocaust real quick.
48:53 Right.
48:53 Yeah.
48:53 RIP.
48:54 So So rest in peace.
48:55 Sorry for your loss.
48:56 Yeah.
48:56 No.
48:56 Rest in peace to Holocaust.
48:57 To the Holocaust.
48:58 But yo, bro, I ain't seen him for years at one point, right?
49:01 And then I saw him.
49:03 He came to the studio.
49:04 I was working on Afro Samurai.
49:05 I said, you know, I'm going to let him come do a song.
49:07 He showed up to the studio.
49:08 He had a long coat on, bro.
49:10 And he had a[ __] duck in his pocket.
49:15 Why?
49:13 I don't know, bro.
49:14 He pulled out a duck and start petting this[ __] bro.
49:19 I'm like, what the[ __] What's the science?
49:24 What drug is that?
49:25 Exactly.
49:26 What the[ __] is a pet?
49:28 Wait, bro.
49:28 How do you have a[ __] pet duck in your pocket, bro?
49:32 Like, like, how do I Wait,
49:34 like how do you like Do you guys
49:35 have like a barbecue or something to get together?
49:37 It's like a family reunion.
49:39 This is No.
49:39 Do you have a three-legged race or like
49:41 a sack race of all the Wu Tag affiliates?
49:44 Not yet, bro.
49:45 How do Ari and I become?
49:48 We got to chop this beat and send it to him.
49:50 Yeah.
49:50 Yeah.
49:50 Chop this up, son.
49:51 Let's do two more names in this.
49:53 Let's get out of this chamber.
49:54 What's this guy's name?
49:54 Falling down.
49:55 That's me.
49:56 That's so mean.
49:57 That is so mean.
49:59 Oh[ __] What's uh Fugi Fresco P Gab Gotcha?
50:04 G-cliff Glex G.
50:05 No.
50:06 Hold on.
50:06 They put Gab.
50:07 They put Gab Gotcha on there.
50:08 Goldmack.
50:09 Who's that?
50:09 You don't even like
50:10 I know Gab got you.
50:12 There have to be some guys here that you're like that.
50:14 Yeah.
50:14 Yeah.
50:14 Yeah.
50:15 Yeah.
50:15 He He He was He was He was thriving.
50:18 Gab gotcha.
50:19 That's like a pedophile.
50:20 Okay.
50:22 Gab gotcha.
50:23 He was fine as[ __] He was a nice guy.
50:25 But yeah, Goldfinger.
50:26 Goldfinger was actually a producer.
50:29 Uhhuh.
50:29 You know who Goldfinger did, yo?
50:31 He produced a song called Fairy Tales.
50:34 Never mind.
50:34 That was the first song, I think, that Kelly Kiss was on.
50:39 Oh, really?
50:40 Yeah.
50:40 He kind of he kind of brought Kh
50:43 uh it's on the gravediggers.
50:44 I remember fairy tales.
50:46 You know the gravediggers.
50:48 Diggers though.
50:48 Gravediggers.
50:50 That was with uh Prince Paul, right?
50:51 Yeah.
50:51 With Prince Paul on them.
50:52 That was horror core.
50:54 Is that what they called?
50:54 That's what they called this[ __]
50:57 Scary.
50:57 It's dark.
51:00 Dark.
51:01 Spooky.
51:02 It's kind of like, do you think that uh the Jay-Z
51:04 verse on Monster was horror core when he's like goblins,
51:08 ghouls, spookies, things that go bump in the night?
51:13 Scary things, nightmares.
51:16 He make it sound like the $25,000 pyramid question though, right?
51:19 The guys are like things that go bump in the night.
51:21 Things that
51:22 Wait, wait, what's it called?
51:23 Fairy fairy tales on the gravediggers album.
51:26 That's not a gravediggers thing.
51:28 A fairy tale is a nice thing.
51:29 Yeah, but they probably made it dark, bro.
51:32 All right.
51:32 All fairy tales was dark.
51:33 Brother Grims.
51:35 Wow, you look handsome on the cover of this.
51:38 That's a nice picture.
51:39 All right.
51:39 Thank you.
51:39 Yeah.
51:39 Yeah.
51:43 Pause.
51:43 What?
51:43 I can't compliment my friend.
51:46 Wait, so who produced this?
51:47 Hey, that's the first time I ever said pause in my life, bro.
51:50 Really?
51:50 For me?
51:50 Yeah.
51:50 I never said an
51:54 Wait, Goldfingers, right?
51:55 Gold.
51:55 So, so Gab Grabby, what's
51:57 No, no, no.
51:57 Gab got you.
51:58 We left him behind.
51:58 He didn't he produced this?
52:00 No.
52:00 Goldfinger did this one.
52:01 Wait, can I ask you a question?
52:03 What what is an understood uh thing about 36 Chambers is it
52:06 was fueled by uh that is a that is a cocaine album.
52:10 Is that correct or is that just a What you mean gossip, bro?
52:13 Like everybody's doing cocaine.
52:15 That but it sounds like everyone's just[ __]
52:17 No, no, no, no, no.
52:19 So that's just
52:20 that's a myth.
52:20 That's some gossip mongers.
52:22 And that's a myth.
52:22 You guys got to deal with these.
52:24 Yeah, you got
52:25 How about the money guys deal with some of the these gossip gossipy whims?
52:28 I'm not a cocaine head.
52:30 Don't sniff coke.
52:30 Too cool to sniff coke.
52:32 They said that it was fueled by I mean it sounds like rapping hard.
52:36 They might have meant like because we had no money.
52:42 Uhhuh.
52:42 The money that we did have could have came from the pharmaceutical business.
52:46 Yeah.
52:46 Yeah.
52:46 Yeah.
52:47 So maybe the far they were talking about that way it was fueled by Yeah.
52:50 Yeah.
52:51 Anthony Fouchy.
52:55 Um, one thing I like about like the solo records you produced afterwards
53:00 is that there's a distinct identity like you're kind of in in you being
53:03 an O tour like directing a film like like to Cal is like
53:07 he's kind of just fighting against like the the beats that you're making, right?
53:11 Then there's like there's I think for Iron
53:14 Man there's a lot more soul stuff there.
53:16 You know, you kind of like um
53:19 you kind of directed each of their movies in a way.
53:22 Well, that's as a producer, you should be able to do that, right?
53:25 You should be able to hear, feel the vibe of the artist and compliment them.
53:29 Yeah.
53:30 And also, you should be able to make sure
53:32 that you're not doing the same thing over and over.
53:35 One of I'm going to say this to you like as you got your NPC,
53:38 one thing I try not to do, right, was was repeat myself.
53:44 Yeah.
53:43 But not realizing that,
53:45 which is cool for me, but all the footprints I'm leaving,
53:48 other[ __] is picking them up.
53:51 Yeah.
53:51 You know what I If Meth Man doesn't do to Cal,
53:53 there's so many rappers that don't exist.
53:57 Sure.
53:56 Even though Meth Man will never do a a album or those flows again.
54:02 Yeah.
54:01 You know what I mean?
54:02 So all the So you know hear the soul
54:04 samples like after be There'll be Be Tears or Shadow
54:07 Box and the Orders all that sped up[ __]
54:09 But then by the time you get to Bobby Digital,
54:12 I'm using all electronic equipment.
54:14 I'm not even using samples.
54:15 You know what I mean?
54:16 So the point is like you want to grow as an artist, right?
54:19 Yeah.
54:19 But you don't realize that sometime your fans just want you to do this.
54:23 Yeah, but[ __] them.
54:24 Right.
54:24 And then sometimes you don't realize that you know what?
54:26 Oh, you don't want to do that no more.
54:30 Uhhuh.
54:29 I'll do it.
54:29 And so many other people are now doing that because
54:33 you already sold like like like say let's say I'm saying,
54:36 yo, everybody love donuts, right?
54:38 And I'm like, yo, you know what?
54:40 I ain't selling donuts no more.
54:41 They're making[ __] fat trying to trying to trying to help these kids.
54:45 How dare he say that?
54:46 I'm I'm I'm moving over to this promoting obesity.
54:50 You think Dylan was promoting obesity?
54:52 No.
54:52 That's a That's fast fast brain.
54:55 But what happens now is that you don't do it,
54:59 somebody else does it, bro.
55:00 Yeah.
55:02 Yeah.
55:01 Yeah.
55:02 That album is beautiful.
55:03 Oh, donuts.
55:04 Yeah.
55:04 Yeah.
55:04 I love Dylan.
55:05 We were at I was at the in DC at the African-American History Museum.
55:08 They have his MPC that he made donuts with.
55:11 Yeah.
55:11 But he was in the hospital, right?
55:12 Wasn't that
55:13 Dowo?
55:13 Dillow is beautiful, man.
55:14 Do do who do you see like who's did you have baby bros
55:17 like producer wise that like you were there like kind of uh kind of
55:22 I don't know sensei
55:25 that was fast too the way that and it works I like that I like that
55:29 you go I mean when you come when you come across people that say they learned
55:32 from the Rizzo they studied the RZO they'll let you know you know what I mean?
55:35 Yeah.
55:35 Um, do you give them feed?
55:37 Was there anyone younger that you give feedback
55:38 to or like like looked up to you and like Bro, bro, bro, I've dropped
55:44 beat machines and keyboards on so many people you could you could forget it.
55:47 Bro, I'm the I'm the I'm the hip-hop guy
55:49 that was in Germany when Germany didn't have hip-hop.
55:51 I gave kids five grand, 10 grand, told him go start it.
55:55 Yeah.
55:55 Really?
55:56 And then and then left let them left them alone.
55:57 But
55:58 my my So so that's a whole another chamber about me.
56:01 Was was Kany did Kanye look up to you?
56:04 Yeah, Kanye because I see kind of a lineage there.
56:06 No, no, he said that, you know, he learned a lot from the from the Abbott.
56:09 The Supreme Client album was very inspirational to him.
56:13 Um, as well as uh just, you know, just, you know, Yeah.
56:17 I mean, he he once said that uh I don't want
56:20 to talk about Kanye like that, but he once said that, you know,
56:22 they asked him who was your hero, he said the Rizza.
56:26 Yeah.
56:26 You know what I mean?
56:26 So, that's respect.
56:27 But I I respect him as a genius and as a brother.
56:30 I think as a producer, he doesn't get enough credit.
56:32 Honestly, I think he's one of the best.
56:34 He gets a lot of credit, bro.
56:35 But I think people know know him more as a I think
56:38 people know him more as a famous anti-semite, but like I think
56:43 and but I'm like, what have you heard?
56:44 Have you heard the the late registration for instance?
56:47 No.
56:48 Um stupid.
56:50 You've done like as I say you're stupid, bro.
56:53 I'm not.
56:53 And I and the apology I I you didn't even need to apologize.
56:57 Yeah.
56:57 I I've loved you and I just want you to be okay.
57:00 You're my hero.
57:00 I love you so much.
57:01 And it didn't really even hurt.
57:03 And you know what?
57:04 It it kind of was not it was not bad
57:06 for us because it seemed like you were having a tough time.
57:09 And so it made anti-semitism seem like a product of someone having
57:12 a tough time instead of something that the all the signs or
57:18 this guy's crazy.
57:20 Cut that.
57:20 Cut all that.
57:21 Cut all that.
57:22 They're not going to cut none of this.
57:23 The money guys are They're like, "We're putting you on our
57:26 When I call you stupid though, bro.
57:27 I'm one of you." Hey, Adam.
57:28 When I call you stupid, it's a it's a compliment.
57:31 Yeah.
57:31 Yeah.
57:31 Yeah.
57:32 Yeah.
57:33 Yeah.
57:33 Yeah.
57:33 Yeah.
57:33 No.
57:33 You know that.
57:34 No.
57:34 When you date like a Latina, she she's like, "You stupid." Yeah.
57:37 It's cute.
57:40 Yeah.
57:39 That's good.
57:40 That's like my dream girl kind of girl, honestly.
57:44 I mean, my
57:45 You ever have a New York Latina as a date?
57:48 I I You can't talk now.
57:50 I can't talk.
57:53 Yo, no, they're the best, bro.
57:54 Let me tell you something about a New York Latina so you can just know.
57:56 I wanted to talk about this.
57:57 Yeah.
57:58 They're just special, bro.
57:59 They are.
58:00 You know what I mean?
58:01 Yeah.
58:02 That's all I got to say.
58:03 They're amazing.
58:03 Shout out to all the Latinx in New York City.
58:07 Yeah.
58:07 Beautiful people.
58:08 Keep doing your thing.
58:08 We love you.
58:09 You guys are awesome.
58:13 It really does feel great to be called stupid though.
58:16 It's like I am being stupid right now.
58:20 Um you you know I think you've done kind of everything right.
58:27 You've done like everything in kind of in
58:30 art.
58:30 Artwise or
58:31 art like in music and movies.
58:33 You've kind of like done all the things.
58:35 I mean, you haven't been like a best boy or a grip before.
58:38 Maybe you have.
58:38 I don't know.
58:40 No.
58:39 No.
58:40 You weren't like a teamster driving a truck,
58:42 but like No, you've acted, you've written, you've scored films.
58:45 Um, actually movie scores like how like approaching
58:49 a film score like um what differentiates the process?
58:54 Is does it feel like you're just making an album?
58:56 when you working as a composer, you you working for the betterment of the film
59:00 and you're working at the service of the film.
59:03 Yeah.
59:03 At first I thought I was working for the service of the director, right?
59:06 I realized no, it's not for the director.
59:08 It's his vision, but you have to serve that film.
59:12 Um, and so it's it's a different approach because it's really
59:15 it it it it you got to have a skill set,
59:18 a ear set, and an ability to do it,
59:21 but it's not just about coming in and making a[ __] beat.
59:24 Bro, what I had to do to try to understand
59:26 it was I went back and studied Peter and the Wolf.
59:31 So, in Peter and the Wolf, um, every instrument represents a a character,
59:36 different character.
59:37 Yeah.
59:39 Yeah.
59:38 And so, the flute was the bird, right?
59:40 The trombones were the was the wolf and all that.
59:43 So, once I understood that, and that's going back basically the classical,
59:47 going back to operas, going back to sweets,
59:50 as they were called, the nutcracker sweet, etc.
59:52 So I studied that first and then I understood that I can kind of do
59:58 that with characters and I could kind
1:00:00 of do that with inanimate objects in a film.
1:00:03 Yeah.
1:00:02 So it helped me.
1:00:03 But even after that knowledge gets you.
1:00:05 It doesn't matter.
1:00:06 Right.
1:00:07 I wasn't writing a scene um in Kill Bill.
1:00:09 I was writing a scene and and I thought I had it and I showed it to Quinton.
1:00:13 He was like no that's not it.
1:00:16 Yeah.
1:00:15 Now that shook me because I'm the RZA.
1:00:21 Right.
1:00:20 Right.
1:00:20 and and and at the time it was like
1:00:23 it was what I did was probably considered undeniable,
1:00:27 but it wasn't good for that film.
1:00:29 And then I did it again.
1:00:30 This went on for two weeks, bro.
1:00:33 Uhhuh.
1:00:33 That it was like, "No, that's not it."
1:00:34 You hadn't had to collaborate in a while, I imagine.
1:00:37 Right.
1:00:37 You've been like, you haven't nor Right.
1:00:40 And nor have I been at service, right?
1:00:41 See, collaboration is one thing.
1:00:43 At service is even higher than collaboration.
1:00:45 So then maybe on a week three,
1:00:48 I'm just in there doing what I'm doing and he bursted into the room
1:00:52 and was like, "That's it."
1:00:54 And I was like, "Okay, understood." Like it it's nothing personal.
1:00:58 It has to serve Yeah.
1:01:00 the film.
1:01:02 Yeah.
1:01:02 Yeah.
1:01:02 Different process.
1:01:03 I mean, that score is awesome.
1:01:04 It's a different process, though.
1:01:06 Yeah.
1:01:06 Yeah.
1:01:06 Yeah.
1:01:07 Yeah.
1:01:07 I mean, what have you enjoyed the like what like
1:01:09 I guess you're getting into what your It's your fourth decade.
1:01:14 Fourth decade in I thought you say my fourth feature film.
1:01:16 Your fourth feature film but it's you kind
1:01:18 of your fourth decade in in making art.
1:01:21 Slow that down.
1:01:21 Slow down.
1:01:23 Kind of.
1:01:23 Yeah.
1:01:24 I got signed.
1:01:26 Yeah.
1:01:26 I'm I'm approaching.
1:01:27 Yeah.
1:01:27 Signed as a teenager.
1:01:28 So I guess like you kind of answered this question a little bit earlier,
1:01:32 but like you're like you you shouldn't grow complacent and like
1:01:36 uh you know just do the same thing over and over again.
1:01:38 You grow restless and you want to change and evolve over time.
1:01:42 Like what's in your belly right now?
1:01:43 like what's what's motivating you right now?
1:01:46 Cinema.
1:01:48 Cinema.
1:01:47 Yeah.
1:01:47 I want to be um I want to add
1:01:50 to the to the to the catalog of cinema some great work that even 20 years,
1:01:56 30 years, 50 years, 100 years from now,
1:01:58 somebody could pick it up and look at it and go, "Yo, that's some shit." Yo,
1:02:02 you know, I remember during the pandemic when everybody was stuck at home.
1:02:07 Um I discovered Bert Lancaster.
1:02:09 You know, you know Bert Lancaster?
1:02:11 Yeah, of course.
1:02:12 Yeah.
1:02:12 And it's just like I'm watching movies that I never seen before,
1:02:16 you know, and it's like it's it's[ __] inspiring.
1:02:19 I'm getting[ __] you know?
1:02:21 I I discovered um Have you seen Local Hero?
1:02:24 Local hero?
1:02:25 No.
1:02:25 Is that the one's last film?
1:02:31 Hero.
1:02:29 Who's Who's the guy?
1:02:30 The old guy that remember the old guy.
1:02:34 I didn't see that one though.
1:02:35 Cut it if I'm wrong.
1:02:36 Cut it if I'm wrong.
1:02:37 Fast.
1:02:38 Fast.
1:02:38 Thomas.
1:02:39 He is.
1:02:40 Yeah.
1:02:40 Yeah.
1:02:40 It's his last It's his last performance.
1:02:42 It's an unbelievable movie.
1:02:45 Very slept on flick.
1:02:47 I got to see that.
1:02:47 Local hero.
1:02:48 Thank you.
1:02:48 Local hero.
1:02:49 Yeah.
1:02:49 I one of my favorites.
1:02:50 It's in a category which I call for the fellas.
1:02:54 Where it's like if you're like at a bar with your friends.
1:02:56 You're like yo, let's watch Moneyball right now.
1:02:58 Right.
1:02:59 Right.
1:02:59 Like let's watch Master and Commander right now.
1:03:02 Right.
1:03:02 And then you go home and you're like literally dapping
1:03:05 each other because you're like that's what it's all about.
1:03:07 Yeah.
1:03:07 Right.
1:03:07 Brotherhood.
1:03:08 Local hero is like definitely like that slapshot.
1:03:12 Uh yeah, Wolf of Wall Street.
1:03:15 It's just like for the boys.
1:03:16 Wolf of Wall Street.
1:03:17 What a[ __] masterpiece.
1:03:18 So good.
1:03:19 Well, the point I'm making like Okay,
1:03:20 so let's use Wolf of Wall Street as an example.
1:03:22 Wait, you were saying you're studying Lancaster though.
1:03:26 Yeah.
1:03:24 No, no.
1:03:25 Yeah.
1:03:25 I'm just saying like I'm going use the same thing I was going to say about Bert.
1:03:29 I'm going say about Leonado and Scorsese and Wolf of Wall Street.
1:03:32 But you can watch it 50 years later, bro.
1:03:35 Yeah.
1:03:35 You're going to be entertained, bro.
1:03:36 Right.
1:03:37 And so my ambition now, I did it in music.
1:03:41 Whether I whether I thought I did it or not,
1:03:43 I know I did it now because the Wu Chang is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
1:03:47 So I did it in music.
1:03:49 I want to try to do that in film.
1:03:51 I want to try to have some films that you're like, "Yo,
1:03:54 I got to see this." Tell somebody you got
1:03:56 to watch that for whatever it does for you.
1:03:59 Yeah.
1:03:59 You know what I mean?
1:03:59 One Spoon of Chocolate.
1:04:01 Maybe that's the one that[ __] make you think about uh relations, right?
1:04:07 Um you know uh Man with the Iron Fist,
1:04:10 which we we watched that recently uh in California.
1:04:14 Yeah, bro.
1:04:14 It's really almost the first black superhero movie after Blade.
1:04:20 Uhhuh.
1:04:19 But I didn't know that.
1:04:21 You see what I'm saying?
1:04:23 Yeah.
1:04:23 So cinema, I think, is my way as an artist now.
1:04:26 What about Blank Man with Damon Waynees?
1:04:28 Have you seen that?
1:04:29 Yeah.
1:04:30 Yeah.
1:04:30 Yeah.
1:04:30 I thought he was a superhero.
1:04:32 I don't know.
1:04:32 It's very funny movie.
1:04:34 Yeah.
1:04:34 Have you seen it?
1:04:36 Someone.
1:04:36 He's just being like he's just being gay.
1:04:38 He's crazy.
1:04:38 He's crazy.
1:04:39 I don't know.
1:04:40 He's crazy.
1:04:40 I'm trying to think of black superheroes.
1:04:42 All right, keep going.
1:04:43 Sorry.
1:04:44 Yeah, I cut you off.
1:04:45 No, that's it.
1:04:46 All good.
1:04:47 But like Yeah, just you asked me what what I want to do.
1:04:49 I didn't realize that until you saw Iron Fist.
1:04:52 Yeah.
1:04:52 No, no.
1:04:53 In my belly.
1:04:53 The question, ladies and gentlemen, the question is what's in my belly?
1:04:56 Yeah.
1:04:56 in my belly is to make cinema that can last
1:05:01 and stand the test of time and inspire future generations.
1:05:04 And I'm going to be striving to do that the way I did with music.
1:05:09 Yeah.
1:05:09 Yeah.
1:05:09 And you're hungry.
1:05:10 Ambitious.
1:05:11 Yeah.
1:05:11 I'm ambitious about it.
1:05:12 We have a new company called 36 Cinema.
1:05:15 Oh, cool.
1:05:15 You saying we we we uh you know, like you guys are doing your own thing.
1:05:19 We're doing our own thing.
1:05:20 And and and and look look at I'm going to say this out loud to you.
1:05:24 podcasting, right?
1:05:26 You're a comedian.
1:05:27 It's a talk show.
1:05:28 Yeah, continue.
1:05:28 Right.
1:05:29 I'm just saying you're talk shows, podcasting, broadcasting,
1:05:34 all these things have given outlets of voices and made it easier.
1:05:40 Yeah.
1:05:40 Right.
1:05:40 Um and then it become a point you're like, yo,[ __] that, bro.
1:05:42 We got our own cameras, our own[ __] lights.
1:05:44 We do[ __] the[ __] way we want to do it.
1:05:48 Yeah.
1:05:47 Um cinema, it's hard for that to happen.
1:05:49 Even though AI is here,
1:05:51 it's hard for it to happen at the level that it projects on a big[ __] screen.
1:05:56 A lot of people there.
1:05:58 Yeah, there's a lot of energy.
1:05:59 I'm trying to simplify that and trying to open the door
1:06:02 for that for uh so that it's not a 30 hurdle race.
1:06:07 It's only 10 12.
1:06:10 Yeah.
1:06:09 Yeah.
1:06:10 So, that's one streamline the production process.
1:06:12 Yeah.
1:06:12 And the and the distribution process.
1:06:14 Yeah.
1:06:14 Yeah.
1:06:15 You know what I in a positive way though where everybody makes money,
1:06:18 everybody makes a smile and uh and more art is shared.
1:06:22 You're the best.
1:06:22 I want you to know that.
1:06:24 I mean, this has been the best.
1:06:25 Seriously, thank you.
1:06:27 I I like uh you're like I think uh
1:06:31 yeah, you're I've been a fan for so long and it's really cool and especially
1:06:37 meeting you is like you're just such a such a sincerely uh lovely person.
1:06:42 Like thank you for being here.
1:06:43 No homo.
1:06:44 Uh uh uh.
1:06:47 Thanks a lot.
1:06:47 There is a guy Heat.
1:07:25 Heat.