Men & Women Are Both Under Attack in America - Here’s How We Fix It

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0:19 But, it's also Friday,

0:20 which means it is interview day here on The Isabel Brown Show.

0:23 And you guys have had all kinds of exciting topic suggestions,

0:27 two of which we are going to cover today.

0:30 As you guys know, I am a part of the amazing Daily Wire family,

0:33 and we've been working really hard behind the scenes

0:35 on building some incredible new content offerings for you guys.

0:39 Today, we are sitting down with two other members of our Daily Wire

0:42 family to talk about their new shows and endeavors here at The Daily Wire.

0:47 First up is the beautiful Reagan Conrad, who is about to have her first baby.

0:52 I'm so excited for her here in the next couple of days,

0:55 who just recently announced a pretty big switch-up with her content,

0:58 going more into her roots of investigative journalism

1:02 and deep dives into some very incredible content.

1:05 Then, we'll be talking to my friend Pavel,

1:07 who normally you guys may know his name as a behind-the-scenes,

1:11 behind-the-camera guy who helps make all of our production stuff possible.

1:15 He just recently launched a show with us at The Daily Wire called Be a Man.

1:19 And if you've ever wondered why men matter now in 2026,

1:23 maybe more than ever before, you have got to check it out for yourself.

1:27 First up though, with Reagan,

1:29 you guys have been asking me a lot about endometriosis specifically.

1:33 And I have so many friends who are walking through seasons of infertility,

1:36 they're struggling with particular diagnoses

1:39 related to their reproductive systems, and I have met so many women in the last

1:44 few years in particular dealing with endometriosis specifically.

1:48 Usually, they are given the same run-around treatment.

1:50 They are slapped on a birth control prescription

1:53 from their primary care physician or their OB/GYN.

1:55 They want to start having children, but they're basically told,

1:58 it's impossible unless you pay us $30,000 for IVF." And most of the time,

2:03 these women are having to wait 8 to 10 to 15

2:06 years to even get a diagnosis of endometriosis to begin with.

2:10 Reagan has some experience in this in her personal life

2:13 and just recently covered this on her new YouTube channel,

2:16 Reagan Conrad, which you guys should go check out.

2:18 And I decided to sit down with her and ask her all about it

2:21 as she gets ready to knock off

2:22 for maternity leave to have her beautiful baby boy.

2:25 So, please join me in welcoming Reagan Conrad.

2:27 The beautiful Reagan Conrad of our Daily Wire

2:31 family joins us on The Isabel Brown Show today.

2:34 Reagan, you're not in the hospital,

2:36 which tells me you haven't had your baby yet, but it's imminent, yeah?

2:39 That's what I'm hearing.

2:40 It's it's imminent.

2:41 Any any second, any hour now, but yes, I'm still here and loving it.

2:45 I'm honored to be here.

2:47 How are you feeling as a mom-to-be?

2:49 You're already a mom in my book,

2:50 but uh getting ready for this exciting new chapter of your life.

2:54 Yeah, I'm I'm thrilled.

2:55 I It still feels sort of surreal,

2:57 but then my baby will move a certain way and I'll be like,

3:00 "Oh, no, there's definitely a baby.

3:01 This is definitely happening." Like it it is as real as it gets,

3:04 except for the fact of labor.

3:06 That will feel that totally real.

3:08 Yeah, I wish I could impart some like magical wisdom

3:11 on you about uh the secret to getting through labor,

3:14 but I actually think and a lot of my friends told me

3:17 this too when I was getting ready about a year ago exactly.

3:19 My daughter will be 1 a week from today, which went way too fast,

3:22 but I remember so many of my friends with kids telling me there

3:25 is literally no way to mentally prepare for labor until you just do it.

3:29 And then after that, it's going to be a walk in the park.

3:32 And every other kid after that, you'll think,

3:33 "I got this." But, that first time is a lot to wrap your head around.

3:37 So, we're praying for you and your beautiful family

3:38 and can't wait for this new chapter of your life,

3:41 but you also have a new chapter uh here at The Daily

3:44 Wire going on as well with the launch of your new show.

3:48 I have been loving all of your content,

3:50 and for those that have been following along with the comment section,

3:53 they may not know that this is a new venture that you have undertaken.

3:56 Can you tell us a little bit about what's changing?

3:59 Yeah, so we have a new channel.

4:01 It's just called Reagan Conrad, my name.

4:02 And what we wanted to do was have a place for a bunch

4:06 of different type of storytelling because I have found that, you know,

4:09 when I deep dive certain stories,

4:11 some kind of determine and kind of require long-form conversations.

4:15 Some of them could be told in like a video essay format.

4:19 Some could be told with a mini doc and having

4:21 to go out in the real world and actually like explore something.

4:23 So, then I'm like, "Okay, how do we put all of those storytelling

4:26 in one place?" I was like, "Okay, new channel.

4:28 It's not really going to have names.

4:30 It's just my name, and it's just going to be everything that we deep dive.

4:32 Any kind of reporting will live on that.

4:34 So, I I come from like a journalist background, and so the storytelling world,

4:38 I love that new media is so different right now

4:40 where we can do multi different formats and that actually works.

4:44 And um so, yeah, that's it's going to be a home for all of that.

4:47 So, some of them are going to be, you know, the mini docs.

4:49 Some of them are going to be these long-form conversations.

4:50 And I think it's so much fun.

4:52 It's given us so much creativity to really explore stuff

4:55 the appropriate way that I think they should be told.

4:57 So, I love that.

4:58 And I will say as a Gen Z creator myself as well,

5:01 I feel so creatively stagnated sometimes when we're just

5:04 expected to do the exact same thing every single day.

5:07 My content usually doesn't perform as well when I do that.

5:10 I get stuck in the same loop of just look for the biggest

5:12 trending story or whatever rather than trying to create something meaningful.

5:16 And so, we're having a lot of those fun conversations too with my show,

5:19 and some of our best performing content uh

5:21 this last year has been getting out of the studio,

5:24 going to visit a farm or a home

5:26 school co-op or something here in Washington D.C.

5:28 And I've loved that about your first few episodes

5:30 that you've put out on your new channel as well.

5:33 So, everybody make sure you go check it out.

5:34 But, you have a new episode specifically about one topic in particular

5:38 I'm getting so many questions about every single day from our audience,

5:43 and that's on endometriosis.

5:45 Your episode is called The Invisible

5:47 Illness That Is Impacting Millions of Women.

5:50 What made you want to talk about this particular subject,

5:53 and what did you find out along the way?

5:55 Yeah, well, I wanted to dive in because I have endo.

5:59 And I didn't know that until probably midway through last year,

6:03 I was experiencing pain.

6:05 I'd had pain my whole life, especially during like,

6:07 you know, my period, but I thought that was normal.

6:09 Everyone says that's normal.

6:11 Newsflash, it's not normal at all.

6:13 Had no idea, which is kind of groundbreaking.

6:16 But, um eventually, I ended up going

6:18 to multiple doctors trying to figure out what's wrong.

6:20 And they found a cyst.

6:21 They found out it was an endometrioma, which meant I have endometriosis.

6:24 And then I went down this whole journey of figuring out what does that mean,

6:27 what kind of lifestyle things can I change to help

6:30 myself because I'm also getting into that, you know,

6:31 holistic world of I don't want to be on meds.

6:34 I don't want to do things like that, but also I have something that's wrong.

6:37 Um and the more that I dove in, I'm like, "Wow,

6:39 okay, a lot of women have this." Like this is so normal.

6:42 If you're scrolling on social media

6:43 and you see like another celebrity that's like,

6:45 "Okay, just had endometriosis surgery for the third time." I'm like, "What?

6:48 Something's off here." So many women are dealing with this, or they

6:51 don't know that they have it and they're dealing with it.

6:54 And so, I went down the rabbit hole myself and thought, "Okay, you know what?

6:57 This channel especially is for any kind of deep dives,

7:00 and this is a deep dive that I've personally been on.

7:02 So, I'm going to bring my audience on and show

7:04 this for a lot of women so that we can all learn together.

7:06 And it was so helpful.

7:08 I mean, talking to so many different specialists and doctors,

7:10 it gave me more hope than what I was

7:12 experiencing with my essentially my interactions with the medical industry.

7:17 Like I I wasn't feeling good about it.

7:19 Even having had surgery now, um I still was like,

7:22 "There's no What What are the solutions?

7:23 What What can we do about it?" And thankfully,

7:26 through a lot of this research and these conversations,

7:28 they've actually provided some solutions too.

7:29 So, there was just a lot there that I was like, "Okay,

7:31 we just got to We got to start somewhere."

7:32 Because not a lot of women are talking about it.

7:34 Or if they are, they're like, "Here's the problem.

7:37 Okay, next." And and there was

7:38 there's no like solution-oriented stuff out there.

7:40 I am so excited for Reagan to become a new mom.

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11:01 Yeah, [snorts] for most of my friends that have endometriosis,

11:04 I have heard just horror stories from them about

11:07 what it's been like to go through the diagnostic process.

11:10 More often than not,

11:11 they aren't diagnosed for years and years and years and years and years.

11:14 Like you said, they are told it's totally

11:15 normal to experience just debilitating pain every single month,

11:19 not a normal period cramp or hormonal fluctuation,

11:22 but like can't get out of bed type pain.

11:24 And they are usually prescribed birth control pills

11:27 as the magic solution to fix everything because

11:29 that will regulate your hormones and it masks

11:32 a lot of their symptoms for a long time,

11:33 but most of my friends who have had issues

11:35 with this in the last few years are then

11:37 getting off the pill after taking it for upwards

11:39 of a decade throughout their teenage and adolescent years,

11:42 and now they're married and they want to have a baby

11:44 and they're realizing they're having all

11:46 of these problems naturally conceiving a child.

11:49 More often than not, dealing with endometriosis,

11:51 but doctors aren't helping them go through that diagnostic process.

11:54 Instead, they're just saying, "Oh, well, everything looks fine on paper.

11:58 There is no logical explanation.

11:59 You have unexplained infertility and now we're going to sell you on IVF so

12:03 that you can pay us $30,000 per round and make sure that we can

12:06 just help you scientifically through the process."

12:09 It feels so exploitative and honestly so demeaning to women who are being honest

12:15 about the symptoms that they are experiencing,

12:17 but the big pharma medical complex is refusing to help them go

12:22 through this diagnostic process and actually

12:24 get answers for what they are experiencing.

12:26 Did you have any of that similar journey with your health care practitioners?

12:31 And I'm actually shocked you had surgery so early in the process.

12:34 Most of my friends, it takes years.

12:35 Tell us a little bit about that.

12:37 Yeah, so I did.

12:38 I went to at least three different practitioners who I said,

12:43 "Okay, I know I have an endometrioma.

12:45 We found it." Typically, you don't even find them.

12:47 I only found it because I had a pain on my side

12:49 that was unexplained for long enough that I was like,

12:52 "Something's wrong." I wasn't thinking endo at the time,

12:54 but I was like, "Is it stress-induced?

12:56 Is it cancer?" You know, you freak out about like a certain pain.

12:59 Um So, that's how I found it.

13:01 So, by the grace of God, frankly,

13:02 I found something that I could have gone many more

13:04 years not having no idea that it was in there.

13:07 That being said, though, once I found it and knew that it was an endometrioma,

13:10 which again means you have endometriosis,

13:12 I went to three different practitioners.

13:14 who don't know what this is.

13:16 I don't want to assume everybody knows what endometriosis is.

13:18 What does that actually mean?

13:19 So, part of like the material that grows inside of the uterus,

13:23 it it mimics that type of material,

13:25 but it grows outside of the uterus and unlike

13:28 what happens in the uterus where it sheds every month, this stuff doesn't shed.

13:31 So, it attaches to different It can attach different organs.

13:34 It lives places it's not supposed to live.

13:36 It can grow into cysts and it just causes

13:38 extreme pain and it like inflammation and things like that.

13:41 So, a lot of different symptoms can come from it,

13:43 but that's essentially what the like the material itself is.

13:46 Interesting.

13:47 Okay, so you found out that you had this and then what?

13:49 And then I went to doctors and said, "I have this.

13:52 We know, here's all the documentation.

13:55 And I want to get pregnant, so I'm more concerned that I have this.

13:57 It's It's on my It's growing like in my ovary,

14:00 so it could kill the ovary and that's like an imminent threat as well.

14:03 So, knowing all these things,

14:05 what do I do?" And three different doctors looked at me and said,

14:08 "Go on the birth control pill." After you

14:11 just told them you wanted to get pregnant?

14:13 I I I can't describe the like I was so dumbfounded every time.

14:18 Like, did Did you hear what I I just said?

14:21 I'd like to get pregnant.

14:23 I I want to get rid of this because I want

14:24 to protect my ovary so that I can continue to get pregnant.

14:27 And and you're encouraging like the birth control pill.

14:30 One woman blew my mind.

14:31 And again, these are women that were saying this.

14:33 One woman said, "Oh, just just treat it like Advil." What?

14:38 Treat the birth control pill like Advil?

14:42 And she was like, "You can just get on for a few

14:43 months and then hop off." And I was like, "No.

14:45 No.

14:46 First of all, that's not how birth control works.

14:47 It's way more dangerous than that, frankly.

14:49 You're not just going to pop on and like pop off.

14:52 But also, it's it's going to mitigate the pain for what?

14:55 For 3 months?

14:56 Great.

14:56 Well, the endometrioma is still going to be there.

14:58 You know, like it's it's just a band-aid solution." And I

15:00 was It was so infuriating to hear that from multiple people.

15:04 Wow, that's shocking.

15:06 Yes.

15:06 So, obviously you didn't do that and you wanted to keep getting answers.

15:10 How did that then progress into surgery?

15:12 So, I started talking to women that I know who have it.

15:15 And I just tried to find out like, "Okay, I unfortunately from the doctors,

15:19 I'm getting confusing takes and things

15:20 that are not necessarily helpful." And finally,

15:22 I found a young girl that was like, "Hey,

15:24 I have this and I did excision surgery."

15:26 And she kind of talked me through the whole process.

15:28 She was like, "This is what I recommend." She

15:29 had multiple failed other types of surgeries and finally,

15:32 she found the right form, which is excision.

15:34 There's like different versions of it that you can get done.

15:36 Some are safer than others and excision is like the best and the safest.

15:40 And so, she advised that and then I finally was like, "Okay,

15:42 I'm going to find a specialist." Because she was like, "Don't go to any OB.

15:45 It has to be someone who really knows

15:46 what they're doing." Because everyone can do the surgery,

15:48 that doesn't mean they should be the ones doing it.

15:50 And so, I found a specialist in Nashville and kind of went that route.

15:53 Immediately, she was like, "Yeah, you shouldn't go on birth control.

15:56 You should have the surgery." I'm like,

15:57 "Thank you." So, so shopping around, too, I think.

15:59 It's like that empowerment of you know,

16:01 we're raised in this medical system where we think like,

16:03 "Okay, doctor says this, we do this." We

16:05 just we don't really ask a lot of questions,

16:07 but I think it's important for any kind of medical decision that you're actually

16:10 asking questions and and if you maybe want a second opinion or a third opinion,

16:14 you go and you get those.

16:16 What was the timeline for you between having

16:18 your first symptoms and actually getting that diagnosis of endometriosis?

16:23 I mean, now that I look back,

16:24 the symptoms I've probably had my entire like adult life,

16:27 but I would say, so I mean, over 10 years at least, probably 15 years.

16:31 But the the heavy symptoms,

16:33 the the issue that I was caused like had enough pain to go get checked

16:36 out was only a couple months cuz I

16:38 didn't let that fester because something was off.

16:40 But again, so many women go a decade plus without knowing they have it.

16:43 You covered that so beautifully in your episode,

16:45 actually, and I study endometriosis a lot.

16:48 I look at the fertility crisis our country is dealing with.

16:50 I certainly studied this from a scientific perspective when

16:53 I was in college and in graduate school as well,

16:55 but I didn't even realize how prevalent

16:57 this actually was for the women of our generation.

17:00 I learned from you that one in 10 women

17:02 in our country are suffering from endometriosis and on average,

17:06 it takes 8 years on average to remotely get the diagnosis.

17:11 And most doctors don't suggest surgery or make

17:13 sure that they can mitigate the problem immediately.

17:16 They do just try to slap a pharmaceutical

17:18 solution through the birth control pill on you,

17:20 which I try not to fault the doctors for because more often than not,

17:24 when you're seeing your primary care physician or you're seeing your OBGYN,

17:27 that's just what they've been trained to do.

17:29 It really does take these specialists that have dedicated their life

17:33 to these things to make sure that we're breaking that cycle.

17:35 But for those that are watching this that may be thinking to themselves,

17:39 "I have symptoms kind of like that.

17:40 I've been confused about how my body is working.

17:43 I don't want to wait 8 years to get the right diagnosis and make sure

17:46 that someday I can have a beautiful family

17:48 because that's something that I want as well.

17:50 I don't want to just be on the pill forever."

17:52 What advice would you give them in starting that diagnostic process?

17:56 I would say immediately search local OBs

17:59 in your area that are specialists with endo.

18:01 Even if you might not have it and hopefully you don't,

18:03 but even if you think there are any symptoms that are off,

18:07 go to someone like that because they'll also recognize maybe it's PCOS,

18:09 maybe it's something else, but they'll be able to give a little bit more

18:11 of a specialized take on it rather than just your regular OB.

18:14 So, that would be the biggest thing I would say.

18:16 Also, I talked about this a little bit in the episode,

18:18 but um NaPro technology is like this new thing,

18:22 which I know you've talked about on the show.

18:23 I I I'm fascinated by it now.

18:25 I think I have It has gives me so

18:26 much hope for different things for women struggling with infertility,

18:29 PCOS, endo, a bunch of different things,

18:32 but also look up specialists like that in your area

18:34 that are NaPro specialists because they'll immediately go, "Yeah,

18:37 that's not normal." They're not going to jump on the pill

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20:02 Yeah, NaPro [snorts] is huge.

20:03 And if you guys don't know what that means,

20:04 it's basically natural reproductive technology.

20:07 It's people helping you understand how your body works and how

20:10 you can lean into it and actually regulating your cycles,

20:14 not just masking them through this pill that you take

20:17 as a magic one-size-fits-all solution at the end of the day.

20:20 Up until now, very few accredited doctors have

20:23 been leading the fight for NaPro and helping

20:25 women understand naturally how to take ownership over

20:28 your fertility and your cycles and your hormonal fluctuations.

20:31 It's becoming a lot more popular, thanks be to God.

20:34 I think largely because of the Maha movement.

20:36 But, the Catholic Church has been talking about

20:38 this really since the dawn of time, right?

20:39 I mean, this is [laughter] This is not a new concept,

20:42 and yet it does feel really new to the realm of Western medicine.

20:46 I'm sure she wouldn't mind me telling this story,

20:47 but I have a dear friend who has gone

20:49 down this rabbit hole very similar story to yours,

20:51 Reagan, throughout the last few years.

20:53 She was married to her husband in the fall of 2021.

20:57 I was in her wedding.

20:58 And then, they decided they wanted to wait about

21:00 a year before they really started trying to have children.

21:03 And after that year came up,

21:04 they went through 3 years of unexplained infertility.

21:08 And this is becoming so hyper-normal that so many of my other friends,

21:12 cousins, family members are dealing with this.

21:14 One in seven couples in America actively trying

21:17 to conceive today are just told by their doctor,

21:20 "Well, you can't have a baby, but we don't know why.

21:22 We've done all the tests, we've done all the scans.

21:24 On paper, it doesn't make sense.

21:26 So, we're going to slap this label of unexplained infertility on you,

21:30 and then we'll just immediately try to sell you

21:32 on IVF." My friend and her husband are devout Catholics.

21:34 They were very uncomfortable with the idea of IVF

21:37 and just didn't want morally to go down that route.

21:39 So, they tried just about every other fertility option for them on the market

21:43 when it came to IUI or injections

21:46 and hormonal treatments and all kinds of stuff.

21:48 Ultimately, none of that worked as well.

21:50 And so, they were just going down every single rabbit hole thinking,

21:53 "What could possibly be the issue here?" And they

21:55 heard about an organization that operates out of Omaha,

21:59 Nebraska, with Creighton University called the Saint Paul Institute.

22:04 And this organization is the leading NaPro center

22:07 for all of these conversations happening in our country.

22:09 But, were recommended by a friend, and they took a trip down there to Omaha.

22:13 And she went through all of the scans and all of the diagnostic everything.

22:17 Eventually, after tracking her cycles for several months,

22:19 they had her come in for an exploratory surgery,

22:22 a laparoscopic surgery, where, low and behold,

22:24 endometriosis was all over her abdomen, just everywhere.

22:28 Like, of course, you weren't naturally going to be able

22:30 to conceive a child because there's so much built-up scar tissue,

22:33 it's very difficult for a baby to actually implant here.

22:37 And so, they scheduled her for a follow-up surgery a couple of weeks later.

22:40 Now, she is pregnant with twins, which is the best news ever.

22:44 Praise God.

22:45 When she called me and told me that a few months ago,

22:47 I just immediately burst into tears.

22:49 It was the best news ever.

22:51 But, I just can't help but thinking about all

22:54 of the women who are told, "This is normal.

22:56 This is normal.

22:57 This is normal.

22:57 This is normal." It doesn't have to be just because it's

23:00 been accepted as reality by the leading loudest voices in Western medicine.

23:06 And it's up to us to continue fighting for real science and real truth,

23:10 ultimately, which is exactly what you're doing with your new channel, Reagan.

23:15 What is the next big deep dive that you are planning on going into?

23:18 Maybe something related to motherhood, I'm guessing.

23:21 And where can people continue to support you and your show?

23:25 Yeah, well, we're doing a bunch of motherhood episodes,

23:27 a bunch of kind of, again, everything.

23:29 We're talking about a discord cult coming up.

23:31 So, some darker topics, but again, it all ties back to parenting.

23:34 I think to a large part of what what we want to make

23:37 sure that our kids are aware of, how we can protect our kids.

23:40 And so, a lot of that kind of core mission is is connected to that.

23:43 People can find me at Reagan Conrad on YouTube,

23:46 and same on all other platforms, just my name.

23:48 But, yeah, it's been so much fun to deep dive this stuff.

23:50 It's so important to have these conversations.

23:52 And also, important to have the conversations that aren't like a lot

23:55 of this stuff is taken and politicized in another way, right?

23:58 Even when it comes to the conversation around endo,

24:00 I see so many times where I'm on social media and oh,

24:03 it's misogyny that's to blame for why we have

24:05 endo and why it's this crisis and these things.

24:07 It's like, why are we politicizing this?

24:09 This is just a women's health issue.

24:10 It doesn't have to be politicized.

24:12 You don't have to use like they/them things when talking about endo,

24:15 which I've seen, and it was so frustrating to me.

24:16 But, I'm like, we can just have these conversations simply,

24:20 strictly talk about science,

24:21 talk about the problem, and find solutions and and kind of drop that noise.

24:25 So, that's what we're trying to do in this channel.

24:27 And yeah, so I'm so excited for it.

24:30 Before I let you go, I know you've talked really openly and beautifully about

24:33 how becoming a mom has totally shifted your perspective

24:37 in what we do every day as content creators

24:39 and the intentionality behind what we're putting on the internet,

24:42 that we're really trying to move the needle and go on offense

24:45 to create something beautiful instead of just reacting to the insanity.

24:50 For anyone out there who's looking for a little bit of hope in that arena,

24:53 that it's not just doom and gloom out there,

24:55 despite the fact that it's often peddled

24:57 that way by the talking heads on the internet,

25:00 do you have a message of encouragement or support?

25:02 Yeah, I would say the deeper that you look into things,

25:05 there are solutions on the other side.

25:07 You know, just like we know with the way

25:08 that culture is and how much darkness is,

25:10 that we know there is light at the end of the tunnel,

25:12 figuratively, but also literally in terms of like,

25:15 we know who comes to the end and saves us, right?

25:16 We know that we know that goodness wins.

25:18 Also, I found when we're doing these heavy deep dives,

25:20 when we're in the trenches of, again, discord cults,

25:23 random things like that, there's still solutions,

25:25 there's still things on the other end that are

25:27 good and that we can pull from that.

25:29 So, I think that is gives me hope when I'm looking

25:31 at these stories and when we're talking about big things like this.

25:33 But, yeah, there is light at the end of these tunnels.

25:36 All right, last question's a fun one for you, Reagan.

25:39 It was a beautiful but tough journey to get

25:41 here to preparing for the arrival of your beautiful baby,

25:45 which I'm so excited for you here in the next couple of days.

25:48 What has been the most beautiful part of pregnancy thus far,

25:52 and what are you most looking forward to once

25:54 you give birth to your beautiful baby boy?

25:56 Gosh, the most fun part, I mean, obviously,

25:59 has just been the miracle of it itself, even with, again,

26:01 having health struggles over the last year and being afraid that maybe

26:04 this was not a possibility or what that would look like.

26:07 But, seeing that test and, you know, being there with my husband and being like,

26:10 "Oh my, no way." Lord, like I it was such a surreal moment.

26:14 So, I think that was that has been the most fun of like that initial,

26:18 you know, shock and awe of it.

26:20 But, I think the part that I'm most excited for is getting

26:22 to watch my husband kind of step into that role as well, you know?

26:24 I think it's it's I've known him for so many years now,

26:27 and it's something we've always talked about.

26:28 But, now that I get to watch him become a father,

26:30 I am so thrilled I'm so thrilled to meet my son as well.

26:33 But, I'm excited to watch, you know, this man that I know bloom in this new way.

26:37 So, I can't wait.

26:38 My phone screen, lock screen, oh,

26:40 I'll have to clear all my notifications, of course,

26:43 is a picture of my husband a year ago next week holding our baby.

26:49 And I cannot even begin to express to you how special those moments really are.

26:55 So, take a lot of pictures, soak it all in.

26:57 Do not get on the internet, whatever you do [laughter]

27:00 as you get closer to delivery.

27:02 But, we're praying for you every step of the way and can't wait to support you

27:05 in this new journey of your life

27:06 and this new YouTube channel that you just launched.

27:09 Thank you so much.

27:10 It was an honor to be here.

27:11 I can't wait.

27:12 Can't wait to give you a hug soon.

27:15 [laughter] Incredible conversation.

27:16 Again, so, so excited for Reagan to begin this new chapter

27:19 of her life and highly recommend you guys check out her new channel.

27:22 These deep dives that she's going into are fascinating,

27:25 absolutely incredible stuff.

27:26 Now, let's switch gears a little bit to talk to our friend Pavel,

27:29 who is now in front of the camera,

27:31 not just behind the camera, making all the magic happen at The Daily Wire,

27:35 and has recently launched a new show with us called Be a Man,

27:39 in which he's going into the immersive experience of all

27:43 of the coolest hyper-masculine career paths out there possible.

27:47 He got tased by some police officers.

27:50 He's putting his hand up a cow's butt on a farm because that's

27:53 just what you got to do in order to make it all happen.

27:56 He's climbing power lines.

27:58 He's doing some really incredible stuff to expose just

28:00 how important real masculinity still is in 2026 and beyond.

28:05 You guys will love this conversation, and trust me, you will love his new show.

28:09 It is one of my favorite content offerings out there on the internet right now.

28:13 Rumor has it there's a new show around the block here at The Daily

28:17 Wire all about men doing hard things and the revival of masculinity.

28:23 There's a fun trailer for you to see what it's all about.

28:26 Did I mention I hate heights?

28:30 [music] Oh, oh, holy My name is Pavel.

28:33 When [music] I was growing up, I wanted to be a real man.

28:37 So, I'm going to hit the road,

28:39 meet the men [music] who are manly, courageous, and strong.

28:43 The men that [music] I wanted to be like when I was a kid.

28:46 Daddy's coming with some food.

28:48 I don't know if there's a more noble cause or better people to work with.

28:53 I'm going to see [music] if I can be just like them.

28:56 We don't see ourselves as heroes.

29:00 [music] We honestly just think it's doing our job.

29:02 If you want to be a hero, if you want to be a badass, be a man like these guys.

29:07 Eight episodes.

29:09 I am so deep.

29:10 Eight life lessons.

29:11 [music] [screaming] My name is Pavel.

29:15 Be a man with me.

29:17 Deep breath in.

29:20 [screaming] And joining us now is our very own Daily Wire,

29:26 Pavel, to tell us the mission behind the madness.

29:30 Pavel, thank you for being here.

29:31 Oh my god, I'm so nervous.

29:33 This is my first interview ever.

29:34 Usually, I'm behind the camera there, you know, hiding.

29:36 And now I'm here sitting here.

29:38 No, I love this about your story.

29:39 And actually, for those that might be watching this thinking,

29:41 "Who the heck is this person?" Tell us how this happened.

29:43 You are behind the camera,

29:44 you were running all the production here at Daily Wire.

29:46 And now you're on the other side of it.

29:47 Yeah, so I've been doing production probably like 17 years,

29:51 and my job was and is still,

29:55 you know, making things happen, pushing things through, and yelling with

30:01 [laughter] Um, first AD and production manager

30:02 and director of production operations, all that.

30:04 So, you know, my whole life I was uh trying to be as far as I can from camera,

30:09 rather behind camera.

30:11 And now all of the sudden we're sitting here.

30:13 Why are we here?

30:14 Where did this show come from?

30:15 Tell me everything that led us to this moment.

30:18 So, I guess uh you know, uh this show is intend to interview regular guys,

30:23 real men at their real jobs instead of celebrities,

30:26 and hear their voices and what they do with their with with their lives,

30:30 uh what's their purpose, and you know, I was like,

30:33 "Maybe I should maybe I should do something about it." So,

30:36 I came up with the idea.

30:38 Um, I went to pitched it to executives.

30:40 They're like, "Oh, okay.

30:41 Well, maybe shoot the pilot, you know." I'm like,

30:43 "I need host." Well, figure out.

30:46 Just find someone.

30:47 So, immediately I went to Michael Knowles.

30:51 [laughter] Mr.

30:50 Knowles, so here's the thing.

30:52 Um, I showed him the pitch, and I was like,

30:55 "I I just they they they're allowing me to shoot it on my own time.

30:59 Why don't you just participate whenever you have a moment?" And he's like,

31:03 "Nah, I don't think so.

31:04 Maybe you should just do it." And I'm like, "Mr.

31:06 Knowles, my ac- You're tell- You're telling me Michael Knowles didn't want to go

31:11 get tased and try all the dirty jobs out there.

31:17 [laughter] He didn't even know that that's coming.

31:18 Uh, so he was like, "Yeah, I'm just go do it." And I'm like,

31:21 "My accent, you know, I'm not a camera person.

31:24 Why would I do that?" He's like, "Just try it." So, we went and shot the pilot.

31:28 Um, and then we shot the pilot, and executives were like, "Yeah, yeah, no.

31:33 Let Let us think about it." And then they thought about it, and they're like,

31:36 "Yeah, just go and shoot a few episodes." I'm like, "Who's the host?" You.

31:42 [laughter] Sure.

31:43 So, then we started, you know, coordinating everything,

31:46 and and and show was just developing as we go.

31:49 You know, I really wanted to emphasize

31:51 uh police officers because police officers,

31:54 uh you know, are being assaulted, called names,

31:59 you know, we need to defund them.

32:01 They are hated, and I just cannot comprehend why

32:04 is that cuz we really really need them everywhere.

32:08 Entire world needs them.

32:09 We we're we're not ready not to have authority around us.

32:13 We need to follow rules.

32:14 I love that, and I want to jump off of that in particular

32:16 because most of the discourse that I see about men

32:19 from young women on the internet in this like we have to hate

32:22 all men in era is that men are really useless for society.

32:26 That if we could just figure out a way to have kids without them,

32:28 then the world doesn't need them anymore.

32:30 I see posts about this every single day,

32:32 but I saw one responding to that a few months ago that totally shook me

32:36 to my core about how many important jobs

32:39 in society are 90-plus percent done by men.

32:43 These jobs that you never think about with power lines and sewage tunnels

32:47 and the things that make our society

32:50 function and work that women just aren't doing,

32:52 which is what really inspired you, I think,

32:54 to start tapping into some of these more masculine roles in society.

32:57 You've done a couple that look very very fun from the trailer.

33:01 What has been a couple of the standout moments in filming so far?

33:05 Well, you know, we've done actually eight,

33:07 and we have another two or three to go.

33:10 Um, you know, so yes, police officers, um which was phenomenal experience.

33:16 Very cool guys, by the way.

33:17 You don't have to be scared if you're cool with them, they're cool with you.

33:20 And they are very much so needed, you know, and again, nobody talks about it,

33:23 but, you know, hundreds of them die in the line of duty every year.

33:28 Let's not talk about it.

33:29 No, we should talk about it cuz they leave their homes every morning,

33:32 their families, without knowing if they're going to return.

33:35 You know, so and nobody thinks about those things,

33:37 and we want to emphasize that, "Hey, they're cool guys.

33:40 You can hang out with them.

33:41 They can talk to them.

33:42 You don't have to be scared of them.

33:43 Just don't be a criminal." [laughter] Easy.

33:47 Um, same with the firefighters, you know, also.

33:50 Bunch of them dies every year.

33:51 I think it's a little [snorts] bit under 100, but still a lot of them.

33:55 They're running into fire to save people.

33:58 Nobody talks about it.

33:59 Like, let's emphasize that.

33:59 And And problem with firefighters, um electrical linemen,

34:04 police officers is all the same.

34:05 People are not willing to be and do those jobs anymore.

34:09 Every year there's less and less people

34:11 that are interesting to participate to be people,

34:15 and that's scary cuz we again, we need them.

34:17 Like with electrical linemen, which which was very interesting,

34:20 we shot the episode with them as well.

34:22 Um, they also were like, "Hey, this is our lifestyle,

34:25 but we are on calls every weekend, every holiday.

34:30 You know, we don't see our children's birthdays and on and on.

34:33 We are the first ones to get to the scene

34:35 when there's something going on, like freeze storm.

34:39 They have to be the first one to be there before fire department,

34:41 before police, before ambulance.

34:44 They have to be the first one to secure, make sure everything is safe,

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38:13 Did you find any inspiration at all from Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe?

38:17 Believe or not, I have not seen even one episode.

38:20 Ah, homework.

38:21 Mandatory homework.

38:23 Yes.

38:23 This feels to me like a slightly more culturally aware version of that.

38:27 At the time, Dirty Jobs, I think, was trying to expose a lot of the stuff

38:31 that we just don't think about and why it matters,

38:33 and thank you so much to all these people.

38:35 At that time that it was on the air,

38:36 there wasn't this cultural attack against men and masculinity

38:41 and the removal of these important jobs from society,

38:44 and we also weren't dealing with this health

38:45 crisis that so many people are dealing

38:47 with, where literally millions upon millions of young

38:50 men are dealing with disastrously low testosterone levels,

38:53 struggles with their mental health.

38:55 So, this feels almost like more culturally important

38:58 today than Dirty Jobs did at the time.

39:00 Uh, but I see a lot of parallels between them, so you got to watch some.

39:03 Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm just saying It's

39:05 the funny part about this show is that, you know,

39:07 I walked into this, and I was like, "You know, I feel comfortable with myself.

39:11 I am confident guy, you know.

39:13 Um, I do I do yelling for a living." And I was like,

39:17 "I can do this, you know, I can I will get tased.

39:19 It's fine, you know.

39:20 I'll climb the pole.

39:21 It's fine." But, the reality is it was it was a very quick reality check.

39:26 You know, I am not as courageous as I thought I am.

39:28 I am not as tough as I thought I am.

39:30 It's like I am learning what it means to be a man every single episode.

39:35 I am gaining uh new values that I thought I have.

39:39 I thought I'm capable of, and I'm really not.

39:41 So, it's an adventure and believe or not, like outside of the fact that I'm

39:45 on camera and that's extremely like nerve-racking for me.

39:49 Yeah, that alone is a challenge.

39:51 But then you're like, "Okay, Pavel, today you're going to climb a 45-ft pole."

39:56 [laughter] Okay.

39:56 Well, it looks easy, but it's not easy.

39:59 No.

39:59 Uh get you're going to get taste.

40:01 It looks easy, but it's very painful.

40:03 How bad did it hurt?

40:04 Oh, it's it's miserable.

40:05 It's It's like worst 5 seconds of my life,

40:08 you know, you uh you're fully conscious,

40:11 but you can't breathe, you can't move, and you just pray for it to end.

40:16 And you know, my thoughts were like, "Oh my god, this thing broke.

40:19 Now I'm going to be taste for the rest of my life.

40:21 I'm probably dying right now." [laughter] You know.

40:24 So, There's something to this though about the idea

40:28 of getting outside of your comfort zone.

40:29 I grew up going to adventure summer camp.

40:31 I know it's so nerdy, okay?

40:33 Everybody just deal with it.

40:33 It also was science camp,

40:35 so if you really want to make fun of me, that's fine, too.

40:37 But, part of our responsibility as campers growing up in summer

40:40 camp was to get outside of our comfort zone every single day.

40:43 And the way that our counselors used to describe it,

40:45 and I later went and worked at that camp as a grown-up,

40:47 was that the more you step outside of your comfort zone,

40:50 what once was your panic zone, where you said, "Oh my gosh,

40:52 I can't possibly do this." All of a sudden becomes your growth zone,

40:55 where you're feeling "Okay, this is hard,

40:58 but I know I can accomplish something." And then

40:59 your comfort zone gets bigger and bigger and bigger,

41:01 and your growth zone goes out, and your panic zone goes away, essentially.

41:05 And whether we were kids climbing

41:06 14,000-ft mountains or going white-water rafting,

41:09 and we were scared when we fell out of the boat and thinking,

41:11 "Oh my gosh, I'm going to drown." But I didn't.

41:12 I'm fine.

41:13 Everything's okay.

41:14 It was this amazing experience as a kid

41:17 to be able to learn I can do hard things,

41:20 and I become a better version of myself in the process.

41:23 That is missing from the masculinity story today in America.

41:27 We don't tell people to do hard things.

41:29 Absolutely.

41:29 I mean, child challenge equals growth.

41:33 Um and it's it's so important that we do that.

41:35 Like uh people are asking me, "Pavel, so what is your goal with this show?

41:38 Do you want to be a celebrity?" I care less.

41:41 If this show will will inspire, you know,

41:44 handful of teenagers to get out of their comfort

41:48 zone and do something with their life, actually, that would be a success.

41:52 That I would be the happiest man in the world, you know?

41:55 And um And [snorts] you know, because because the reality is that the young men,

41:59 uh younger generation in general, you know,

42:01 they they they build their characters in the video games.

42:04 You know, they're investing their time to build a character in the video games.

42:07 Turn off computer.

42:08 Build a character in the real life.

42:10 It's now.

42:11 And you.

42:11 Yeah.

42:12 It's now.

42:13 You know, it's funny you said right at the beginning of our conversation

42:15 that we have no real masculinity show at The Daily Wire.

42:18 And I laugh when you say that because I'm one

42:20 of the only women who hosts a show here at The Daily Wire.

42:23 Sometimes the criticism is that we are only

42:25 very masculine and there's a lot of men.

42:27 So, I got to know, are we going to drag out the male podcast hosts

42:30 from behind their microphones and get out there

42:33 and do some of these challenges with you?

42:34 Can we expect Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro and Matt Fred to go

42:39 and climb a power pole with you or shovel

42:42 poop or do one of the challenging things?

42:45 Well, you know, uh I think they are good at what they do, you know?

42:49 Like if someone would ask me to go and uh and talk about politics,

42:52 I would be like, "Mm, I don't know absolutely nothing about it,

42:55 so I'm going to be silent." And I think they see it similarly,

42:58 like, "You know what?

42:59 We're good at this.

43:00 You do your thing." Plus, you know,

43:03 I don't know if Michael Knowles would be like,

43:04 "Hey, man, let me get taste today." [laughter] Probably not likely.

43:08 Knowles, we would love to see it.

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43:13 Pavel, where can people watch the new show and continue

43:15 to support this important mission that young men really need to hear?

43:18 So, uh we ask everybody go to YouTube.

43:21 Uh it's youtube.com/atbmnwithme.

43:25 Go watch it.

43:26 Subscribe.

43:26 There is uh there's fun stuff coming out.

43:28 A lot of pain for me, a lot of laugh for you.

43:31 Um you'll enjoy it, hopefully.

43:32 Be a man.

43:33 I love it.

43:34 I feel inspired even as a woman.

43:35 Thank you, Pavel.

43:38 [laughter] Thanks for hanging out with us on a Friday afternoon

43:40 and spending some time with my friends Reagan and Pavel.

43:42 Go check out both of their shows.

43:43 They are fantastic.

43:44 And you can find both of their shows, my show,

43:47 and a whole bunch of other incredible content over on Daily Wire Plus

43:50 if you guys haven't joined us as a subscriber over there yet already.

43:54 If you guys haven't had a chance to watch my debate

43:56 with Harry Sisson that was put on by The Free Press.

43:58 We did it a few weeks ago at UVA, just a few hours away in Charlottesville.

44:02 It is now live on the interwebs.

44:04 You can find it on my YouTube channel or over at The Free Press as well.

44:08 It was an interesting conversation and warrants a bit of a follow-up,

44:11 I will have to say because some of the best topics

44:13 we didn't have time to get into in just a 45-minute format,

44:16 but I'm hopeful that there's some good chances for further

44:19 debate in our generation here in the next couple of months.

44:22 Not going to give anything away,

44:23 but you may or may not see us back in a more exciting, fiery environment.

44:28 We'll just put it that way.

44:29 In the meantime, happy weekend.

44:31 I hope you guys have a great day.

44:32 And if I can recommend anything to you for the weekend,

44:35 again, I reiterate, go listen to the new Noah Khan album.

44:38 Get in your feels.

44:39 Touch some grass.

44:40 Experience The Great Divide.

44:41 Love you guys.

44:42 Bye.