Olszewski" "Not Confident" the US Can Negotiate an Advantageous Deal with Iran
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0:00 On the foreign affairs committee,
0:01 I just wanna start with the news that we're kind of going through this morning,
0:03 the fact that we have reporting, that that response to The US proposal has
0:07 been conveyed via the Pakistanis to, to The US.
0:10 Your reaction to that, and and what do you need to see in that response
0:13 to feel better about the prospects of this conflict coming to an end?
0:16 Well, some great reporting there.
0:18 And like everyone else, I'm waiting to see what the details are,
0:22 but we have to take a step back
0:24 and remember that we're waiting for agreement on a cease
0:27 fire that is only necessary because of a problem
0:29 that president Trump created in the first place.
0:32 You know, Iranians would not know that they had this potentially
0:35 powerful tool in closing the Strait Of Mormuz but for our attack.
0:39 And so this is, as you were pointing out,
0:42 just one step in a much larger conversation about
0:45 the the very real concern about having a nuclear armed Iran.
0:48 But we're really in a place now where the president,
0:51 I think, is looking to save face.
0:54 It's a war that we know now.
0:56 There was not a clear imminent threat.
0:58 But as has been true throughout this war,
1:00 as a member of the foreign affairs committee,
1:03 I've gotten zero, up to date real time information from this administration.
1:07 There have been no public hearings.
1:08 And so it's really a little bit like poking in the dark to try
1:12 to figure out where we are
1:13 and where this administration hopes to land ultimately.
1:16 Are you concerned about the lack of what you just talked about,
1:20 a con consultation with congress,
1:22 as well as something people keep talking about with us
1:24 is the lack of technical experts going into these negotiations.
1:27 When they negotiated the original Iran nuclear deal, which,
1:30 the Trump administration pulled out of during the first term,
1:33 that was months and months of negotiations
1:35 in Geneva with multilateral partners with state department officials,
1:39 junior officials, people from IAEA.
1:41 The state department, as far as we can tell,
1:43 has been largely cut out of these negotiations.
1:45 It is really only three people, the president seems making these decisions.
1:48 Are you that they have the knowledge they need to go into these rooms
1:52 and come out with a deal that is advantageous to The United States?
1:57 Fortunately, I'm not confident.
1:58 What I can tell you is I what I do know from sitting
2:01 on the foreign affairs committee is that even
2:03 if the state department were at the table,
2:05 that department has been absolutely gutted.
2:07 So a lot of the support infrastructure that should be in place doesn't exist.
2:11 And the fact that this president also,
2:13 on top of that, likes to go it alone so much is really problematic for, I think,
2:18 finding those kind of sustainable deals.
2:20 What worries me in all of this is that we're gonna end up
2:25 with a deal that is equal to or maybe even worse than that JCPOA,
2:30 which was imperfect, by the way.
2:33 There were opportunities for improvement,
2:34 but president Trump created this environment in the first
2:38 place by ripping up that original agreement, allowing Iran to really go
2:44 at their enrichment program with great vigor following,
2:47 ripping up that that deal that, as you mentioned,
2:50 was very involved and very detailed.
2:52 And so now we're back at a place where if we can get
2:55 through a ceasefire agreement and if we can get back to the table,
2:59 I'm hopeful that we can get back
3:00 to a place where there's not enrichment happening, but we have a long way to go.
3:05 And in the meantime, there's been an incredible amount of pain inflicted upon
3:09 not just Americans in terms of service members' lives lost,
3:13 hundreds if not at least tens of billions of dollars
3:17 spent painted the pump for Americans and, frankly, across the globe.
3:20 And so the core we're asking here, you know, to what end?
3:24 And I think at this point, the president can't really answer that question.
3:28 Let's talk a bit about, what this has to bear on US politics.
3:31 I'm just gonna note here Chris Wright, the energy secretary,
3:33 is on Meet the Press with Christine Welker on NBC News.
3:35 He said The US isn't gonna take off any
3:37 options off the table when it comes to Iran.
3:39 An interim Iran deal has got to be possible, he said.
3:42 And then he noted gasoline and diesel prices
3:44 are gonna remain up while this war continues.
3:47 I'm curious how you see that pressure mounting as you
3:49 talk to constituents and make your way around the district.
3:51 You mentioned you haven't been briefed formally
3:53 by this administration on the foreign affairs committee.
3:55 We did see the secretary of defense go
3:57 up and speak to the armed services, committee.
3:59 There is some speculation that maybe we're reaching a greater
4:02 appetite for a war powers resolution on on Capitol Hill.
4:06 What's going to change the conversation or the political terrain?
4:09 Is it gonna be gas prices,
4:11 diesel prices continuing to rise apace, or is it gonna be that?
4:15 The the longer this lasts without any indication of sort of where
4:17 the the direction of this war is headed from the administration is gonna finally
4:19 lead you and your colleagues to do do more or try to do
4:22 more to get administration officials up
4:23 to Capitol Hill to give you some answers.
4:25 Appreciate those questions.
4:26 I'll start with the war powers resolution.
4:28 I mean, this is now beyond the sixty days and the flexibility
4:31 that my colleagues on the Republican side have said the president deserves.
4:35 So it's not a suggestion.
4:36 It's the law.
4:37 If the president wants to continue military operations,
4:40 he has to have authorization from congress at this point.
4:43 I think the law is clear, and so that's that that point.
4:47 I would say But congress said, I wanna interrupt you really quickly.
4:50 Do you think that would concern this particular president?
4:52 Do you think anything congress passes,
4:54 even if it would pass a war powers resolution, do you think that would stop him?
4:59 Well and that's not a reason for congress not to try to stop him.
5:02 But if if the president blows past war powers restrictions,
5:05 then I think we have to sort of up
5:08 our game as members of congress to hold this president accountable.
5:11 This is a president who has consistently shown
5:13 a disdain for any any sort of check.
5:17 And, unfortunately, my Republican colleagues have largely
5:19 deferred to the president on those issues.
5:21 And I hope that given the consequence and given the impact,
5:25 to to the other point,
5:27 I think that the cost of at at the pump, and it's not just at the pump.
5:31 We're seeing it on airline tickets.
5:33 We're seeing it through surcharges at places like Amazon.
5:36 We're seeing it through what's happening with food prices.
5:39 This is having impact across the lives of all Americans.
5:42 And so I I think what's happening is, in particular,
5:46 my Republican colleagues in congress are seeing this is going
5:49 to be a real drag on their election prospects in November.
5:53 And I think this is really gonna fuel
5:56 a democratic majority in the house of representatives.
5:59 I think we're gonna see a closing, if not a democratic takeover of the senate.
6:03 So I I think these issues are are real.
6:06 People are really hurting as I talk to my constituents,
6:09 and I think it's really interesting to know that usually
6:12 when it's whether one of the secretaries or the president himself,
6:16 these are millionaires and billionaires who are members
6:19 of this administration telling Americans it's gonna be okay.
6:21 It's only temporary.
6:22 That's that's not acceptable to people who are trying to put
6:25 a roof over their head and food on the table.
6:28 Let's move if we can to the summit that's gonna take
6:30 place this week in Beijing between the president and president Xi Jinping,
6:32 and we had your colleague, your Democratic colleague,
6:34 Rovzana of California, on the show yesterday.
6:36 And we asked him what he's looking for, as an outcome
6:39 from from that meeting between those two world leaders.
6:41 Let's take a listen to what he had to say and reply.
6:48 Maybe.
6:50 We may not the size of it if I can.
6:53 That he has to reverse.
6:54 And we've had China hold us hostage on rare earths and critical minerals.
6:59 I want a deal that actually helps American farmers, American shipbuilders,
7:04 American manufacturers, and I hope he will, work to to get that.
7:08 He hasn't so far.
7:09 Apologies for that delay.
7:10 Congressman Connan looking for an economic resolution
7:12 to come out of this meeting in in Beijing.
7:14 Similar goals on your part.
7:15 What would you like to see these two leaders announce
7:17 at the end of those I think that's part of it.
7:20 What I can tell you is this is a president who's been very soft on China.
7:23 The one place where he's been hard is on tariffs,
7:25 and that has negative impacts for everyone.
7:27 No one wins in a in a trade war.
7:30 But what we do know is that this president's been very
7:33 soft in terms of, advanced chips and the selling of those.
7:36 And that really is, I think, putting our national security at risk.
7:40 You see a ton of pieces of legislation
7:42 around export controls in the foreign affairs committee.
7:45 I think it speaks to this concern of the way
7:48 this administration is acting and and in general on the issue.
7:51 So, yes, in addition to what representative Connan had said,
7:54 I actually wanna see our president take
7:56 a a harder stand on some of these export controls,
8:00 some of these advanced ships, and looking more in the American interests.
8:03 I'm also looking, to making sure that this president that president Trump takes
8:08 a a much more affirmative stance in support
8:11 of our our friend and partner Taiwan.
8:13 I know that I just introduced legislation bipartisan legislation.
8:16 I'm a co lead with representative Kim
8:19 that would have The United States do a survey
8:21 of all the potential responses if there were
8:24 to ever be an invasion of Taiwan by China.
8:27 And so I'm hoping that the president not only step up
8:30 for American farmers and American interest from a national security perspective,
8:34 but also to be a a much more
8:37 ardent supporter of, Taiwan's interest in these meetings.