Secret Service Admits "There Was No Threat". ATF Releases Report. | Candace Ep 326

0:01 All right, you guys, could you imagine threats so secret that not

0:06 even the Secret Service could detect them?

0:08 Because that's what they're saying.

0:09 That's what they're saying.

0:11 The Secret Service has come out and said, "Nope,

0:14 Erica's a liar and so is her mama." Okay,

0:16 basically, I'm being a little bit dramatic.

0:17 They didn't say her mama was a liar, but I just added that.

0:20 I'm I'm not lying as much as her.

0:22 They definitely said she was lying.

0:23 There's no other way to interpret the statement that they released.

0:26 I'm also I'll say it's interesting that they got a statement out to the press.

0:30 Plus, Victor Marx was, if you did not know this, I mentioned it yesterday,

0:35 the very first person to announce on social media that Charlie Kirk was dead.

0:40 In a post that he subsequently deleted,

0:43 he left it up actually for quite a long time

0:45 and given everything that I have learned about him now,

0:48 the allegations that he is working or was working with Israel,

0:53 that information suddenly feels very relevant.

0:54 So, we're going to review it.

0:56 And lastly, the ATF released their summary,

0:59 not even really the report, and it's a nothingburger.

1:02 I want you to know that it is one big nothingburger.

1:04 Everything else is just noise.

1:06 Welcome back to Candace.

1:22 I had such a a laugh earlier because

1:25 just this entire situation at the University of Georgia,

1:29 it's objectively hilarious.

1:31 You kind of just sometimes have to stand back and watch

1:34 it all and recognize that we are it's a sitcom.

1:37 Turning Point USA has turned into a sitcom.

1:39 Somehow, Erica really thought that she was just going to get away with saying

1:42 that there was this very credible threat against

1:45 her life and nobody would go, "Oh, wait.

1:49 Uh you you probably shouldn't say

1:52 that with the Vice President in the room." Like, you can't just say stuff.

1:54 I always That's one of my phrases.

1:56 You can't just say stuff,

1:57 but you definitely shouldn't just say say stuff when you

1:59 have the Vice President of the United States with you.

2:03 That would actually rise if there was a credible

2:05 threat against you to a national security threat, right?

2:09 You're saying my life is at risk.

2:11 Um, okay.

2:12 What?

2:13 That means that the Vice President's life was also at risk.

2:16 There's there's no way to actually separate that.

2:18 So, of course what naturally followed was there were some

2:22 journalists who were alarmed and they reached out to the White

2:25 House and they reached out to the Secret Service for additional

2:28 information and comment regarding this alleged threat and here's the headline.

2:33 This is in Barry Weiss's CBS no less, okay?

2:36 So, this is like she's got contacts at CBS

2:38 and even they had to just run this headline.

2:41 Secret Service determines no credible threats to UGA

2:44 rally after Erika Kirk's cancellation, the source says.

2:48 Embedded in the article it reads,

2:49 "The US Secret Service determined there were no

2:52 credible threats to Tuesday's Turning Point USA rally

2:56 at the University of Georgia even as a planned

2:59 co-appearance by Erika Kirk was canceled over unspecified security concerns.

3:04 A person familiar with the matter tells CBS News, according to the source,

3:09 that the site was secure and there were no

3:11 known threats to the protectee." That would be VP.

3:14 Now, while Kirk may have received hostile messages including on social media,

3:20 those were not part of any identified or actionable

3:24 threat stream that was monitored by federal authorities.

3:26 And let me interpret that for you, okay?

3:28 There's literally no way to separate this.

3:33 When the Vice President is speaking,

3:34 if he's going to speak at an event and Candace Owens is going to be on stage,

3:38 the federal authorities are going to be looking online for threats

3:40 against Candace Owens because you're not going to be like,

3:42 "Oh, well, that person said they're going to kill Candace Owens,

3:44 but don't worry, Veep.

3:46 They're only going to go when they're there,

3:47 they're only going to kill Candace." She's interviewing you on stage,

3:50 but don't worry about this threat.

3:51 No, of course they also would be looking

3:53 at threats against Turning Point USA about threats

3:55 against that were that were being directed toward

3:57 Erica Kirk and they said this was not happening.

4:00 There was no a threat against Erica would have been a threat against the VP.

4:05 And I find it interesting that they got this out that they decided

4:08 to speak with CBS obviously off record

4:11 probably because what Erica said embarrassed them.

4:14 Right?

4:14 That would imply that her security team had Intel that they did not have.

4:20 And the Intel was deemed so credible that they decided

4:24 that she she could not do the event but the Secret Service

4:26 just decided to press on and to allow the VP you're

4:29 basically saying the Secret Service is not good at their job.

4:33 And they said no, I'm actually we're going

4:35 to come out and we're going to clarify matters.

4:37 This is mortifying for Turning Point USA.

4:39 This is Erica Kirk girl bossing a little too close to the sun.

4:44 She's just been getting away with all these lies making

4:46 phone calls and finally the Secret Service just checked her.

4:49 Now, it gets even worse and I am

4:51 not sure how I completely overlooked this plausibility.

4:55 Actually, I am sure probably because this option was so nonsensical in my mind

5:02 that it did not even occur to me to to consider it.

5:05 The idea that Erica could have actually been in Georgia already and that she

5:11 truly canceled in the last minute after she had already been to the venue.

5:15 That never even crossed my mind.

5:17 I assumed wrongly that she must have been in Scottsdale, right?

5:20 That's the only way to make the story work.

5:22 They said some somebody was tracking her flight.

5:23 Okay, well, obviously that's got to be a Scottsdale thing.

5:27 That in my mind I thought this, right?

5:29 And she then decided not to fly in because of some threat.

5:33 Ladies and gentlemen, I was wrong.

5:36 That is not what happened at all.

5:37 Gratefully, I watched Baron Coleman show last night and he

5:41 offered this option and then we received a tip that Erica

5:45 was indeed in Georgia already and you're not going

5:48 to believe how this actually went down Erica canceling her event.

5:52 So right at the top I just want to say

5:54 that us as a society we deserve better sci-ops.

5:58 This is starting to feel disrespectful.

6:00 She is all over the place.

6:01 They are all over the place and I

6:04 just want to say that we deserve better sci-ops.

6:06 But I um I want you to know that the lie

6:10 that she told here is so big that it is worthy of not

6:13 just her having to step down but Andrew Colvett should frankly also

6:17 have to resign in shame once I show you how this went down.

6:21 There's something wrong with both of these people.

6:24 So just so you understand what happens when the Vice President of the United

6:27 States goes to any town to speak or the President of the United States goes

6:32 to speak at least 48 hours before he arrives the airports the venue in which

6:39 he is going to fly into everything is going to be swept and secured.

6:44 People are going to be sent ahead of him.

6:45 Military guys are going to be sent ahead of him ahead of his arrival of course.

6:50 They don't do this on the day of right?

6:52 You're not just figuring it out with the number two guy in the United States.

6:56 So on the day of his arrival they already

6:58 know how things are going to run and the entire

7:01 perimeter there's going to be an entire perimeter

7:03 that is set up around wherever he's traveling right?

7:06 You're not going going to be able to get

7:08 close to the Vice President when he is traveling.

7:12 So there is in my mind therefore there was was a 0% chance that Erica

7:17 had a viable threat pertaining to her travel while she was already in Georgia.

7:21 I just completely said that can't that's not an option.

7:25 It had to be in Scottsdale.

7:27 But that's what happened Erica that's the story they were trying to sell

7:30 to sell and here is what actually happened on that day okay?

7:33 Well we'll start before on Saturday evening Erica Kirk flew into Palm

7:37 Beach because she was attending Bettina's

7:40 bridal shower which took place on Sunday.

7:43 Uh here are some photos of her on Sunday at Bettina,

7:47 soon-to-be Trump's bridal bridal shower.

7:50 She's engaged to Don Trump Jr.

7:51 I instantly assessed that this was

7:53 taking place on Sunday because Ivanka's there, and so is Ivanka's daughter.

7:57 And um that tells us that obviously it's

8:00 not Saturday because Ivanka is they're they're Orthodox.

8:03 Um so that happened on Sunday.

8:05 On Monday, Erica elected to stay in Palm Beach.

8:09 On Tuesday, she flew from West Palm Beach up to Athens, Georgia for her event.

8:15 And I want to be clear,

8:17 she therefore flew into the already secured by the Secret Service,

8:20 the federal government had already secured this days earlier,

8:24 the private airport and the terminal,

8:27 the very same one that the vice president was due to arrive in, okay?

8:31 Their story is done.

8:32 It's done right there.

8:33 So we're going to look at the timeline from that day so that you

8:35 can appreciate the audacity of the lie that they tried to sell us.

8:39 Later on they're going to admit that they lied, but before let's get here.

8:44 At 1:27 p.m., Erica departed West Palm Beach for the Georgia event.

8:49 At 2:40, Erica landed into Athens, Georgia.

8:53 At 3:53 p.m., J.D.

8:56 Vance's plane begins circling in the air above North Carolina because this is

9:02 when he receives the phone call that Erica doesn't want to do the event.

9:05 I'm going to assume Erica called him personally,

9:08 so you can see that little loop-de-loop.

9:10 We're going to come down here.

9:12 Come maybe more like Yeah,

9:13 and he just starts I don't know if we're going to do this event.

9:16 I'll show you a clip of him admitting,

9:18 thank thankfully Baron put me on to this, that it

9:20 was 2 hours before he got on to stage.

9:22 So that's 3:53, he's circling in the air,

9:24 he gets the phone call, Erica's crashing out,

9:26 and she's not just on going to be on the tarmac

9:29 freaking out and saying there's not there's no safety.

9:32 The Secret Service is waiting for J.D.

9:33 to land, okay?

9:34 Like that this did not happen.

9:36 Obviously, there was nobody at the terminal on her plane.

9:39 She had already landed, so we can't be like, "Oh,

9:41 she thought that somebody was going to put

9:42 something scary on her plane." She's already there.

9:45 And so, that's what we have.

9:47 J.D.

9:47 Vance then lands.

9:50 You see into Athens at 4:34 p.m.

9:54 So, into the same airport as Erica.

9:57 There's no threat.

9:58 No threat.

9:59 Nobody waiting at the airport that was like, "Oh, no, you're good.

10:02 J- I know you boys are with J.D.

10:03 Vance, the vice president.

10:05 I'm actually I'm only here for Erica.

10:07 I'm only I'm only going to harm Erica." 5:00 p.m.,

10:10 you know, the Wi-Fi guy who's around too much.

10:13 He opens now every tour stop and pitches Wi-Fi.

10:17 Well, he opened this event at 5:00 p.m.

10:20 And it looks certainly like he acknowledges

10:24 Erica on stage and looks to the left.

10:27 He says her name and he says like, "Thank you,

10:29 Erica." I'm going to show you the clip cuz it signals

10:31 to me that Erica was just off to the left on off stage.

10:36 Like, that's where you would stand.

10:37 I've got a million events that she was just off stage.

10:39 Probably was going to come out and speak and say some words.

10:43 Listen to Lane Showberger.

10:46 Erica continues to support and inspire us every day to keep pushing forward

10:51 and fighting for the idea that everyone

10:53 deserves a path to redemption and prosperity.

10:56 So, Erica, thank you.

10:59 Thank you for your friendship and believing in My ReFi.

11:03 So, Erica, thank you.

11:07 I'm telling you, I am with Baron on this.

11:10 She was in the building and she was backstage where people could not see her.

11:15 Okay?

11:16 And what likely happened was she then assessed.

11:19 They had assessed that people were not showing

11:20 up and Erica was going into a meltdown.

11:23 Baron even pointed out the fact that Andrew was

11:25 dressed way too casually and Andrew is like very metrosexual.

11:29 And that she he was just dressed way too casually to interview J.D.

11:32 Vance.

11:32 Like this literally all had to happen last second because

11:35 Andrew Kolburt does know how to dress appropriately for venues.

11:37 He would not have been dressed like that to interview the vice president.

11:40 And so this last-minute thing was Erica was already at the venue.

11:43 She realized nobody was coming and she didn't She wanted to cancel the event.

11:47 So what happens is J.D.

11:49 plane circling 3:53, okay?

11:51 He then lands at 4:34.

11:53 So we're supposed to believe one or two things.

11:54 They just on the tarmac didn't say anything to each other.

11:58 No, obviously it didn't happen.

12:00 Did not happen at all.

12:01 J.D.

12:01 Vance says as he's going to go through

12:02 with the event and the first question Kolburt asks him,

12:06 he sets him up and says, "Oh, Erica.

12:08 Oh my gosh." And listen to J.D.

12:10 Vance say that 2 hours ago, meaning when his plane started circling in the air,

12:16 that 2 hours ago I didn't know if this event was going to be happening.

12:20 So take a listen.

12:21 Well, first of all, I love Erica and I

12:23 know that she did get some threats and, you know,

12:25 about 2 hours ago, as you know, Andrew,

12:27 I was a little worried that we were going to have to cancel the event

12:30 because Erica was not going to come and she was very worried about it.

12:34 And I talked to the Secret Service and obviously these guys

12:36 do a very good job and I said, "You know what?

12:38 Let's let Erica do what she needs

12:41 to do for herself and her family." He's basically

12:45 saying that the Secret Service said up we

12:47 we have no idea what she's talking about.

12:49 We're good.

12:50 We're good.

12:50 I don't I don't know what she's having a meltdown about.

12:52 We've obviously secured everything and he's like, "Okay,

12:55 like let's let her figure things out." And I'll tell you what happened.

12:59 Erica did not leave Athens until 6:39 p.m.

13:04 She departed Athens and she headed back for Scottsdale.

13:07 So that's a long time that she was there, okay?

13:10 Erica was there for 4 hours.

13:13 And there was, as the Secret Service determined, no credible threat.

13:18 They would not have ignored a serious threat against Erica Kirk because

13:22 that would mean there was a serious threat against the vice president.

13:25 She was interviewing him.

13:25 You don't separate that.

13:27 And what are we to take from this?

13:28 I just want to be clear and I will continue to say this.

13:31 I don't care if I have to be public enemy number one, Erica Kirk is malevolent.

13:36 She is malevolent.

13:36 You have to accept that.

13:38 Because it's not only that she's capable of lying to us.

13:41 Okay, she does it often.

13:42 Um, it's the manner in which she does it.

13:45 There is always a bend toward evil.

13:48 Okay, let me explain what I mean.

13:50 Tons of people that lie.

13:51 There are people who literally have to lie for a living.

13:54 PR agents, right?

13:55 They have to kind of always tell us a white lie

13:57 and usually it is to afford some protection to their client.

14:00 We're used to that.

14:01 Oh, you know, this artist is actually

14:04 being treated in the hospital for exhaustion.

14:06 Okay.

14:07 We get it.

14:08 They probably had an overdose and they're probably headed to rehab, right?

14:11 Like but they're not going to tell us that because is

14:13 it really our business to know that an artist had an overdose?

14:15 Probably not, okay?

14:17 But then there are circumstances when artists do

14:18 something that is wrong and it's in public.

14:21 Think when Morgan Wallen, uh,

14:24 the country star threw a chair out of a bar window downtown here in Nashville,

14:29 which he had some bad luck and unfortunately

14:31 landed a few feet away from some police officers.

14:34 He gets arrested.

14:35 What does he do after that?

14:36 He issues a public apology, said that like,

14:38 you know, I went to the police station.

14:39 I wanted to make sure that I apologized to everyone.

14:42 I'm not happy about what I did, blah blah blah blah.

14:44 Okay?

14:45 Yeah, that's what you do.

14:46 And And you know what?

14:46 The public is actually very forgiving.

14:50 Normally.

14:51 I love I love Morgan Wallen.

14:53 He gets in trouble, it's like it's it's almost like a part of his brand.

14:55 The public is very forgiving when you are

14:57 honest and you own up to your own crap.

15:01 It takes a very different and a very specific breed of an individual

15:06 to do something wrong and then to blame the public, okay?

15:11 To throw a chair out of a bar window

15:13 and then to to to direct your public relations team

15:16 to tell the vice president that you did it because

15:19 there was an immediate threat to your safety in that bar.

15:22 And that that's ultimately the result of deranged fans online

15:25 that comment every time you sing a good country song,

15:28 and you threw that chair because you needed the fastest

15:31 route to get back to your kids at home.

15:34 Oh, I'm sorry.

15:35 Now it's our fault that he threw a chair?

15:37 Okay, that's weird.

15:40 It's a little bit psychopathic.

15:41 Only a very specific breed of a human could muster

15:44 the shamelessness that it takes to abandon your public commitment.

15:48 You committed that you were going to be there.

15:50 You then decided you didn't want to do it.

15:51 And to be clear, out of an act of vanity, you decided you didn't want to do it.

15:55 You were like, oh, not enough people here.

15:56 I don't want to do this anymore.

15:58 And then, rather than owning that and issuing

16:01 a statement online and saying like, you know, what I didn't want to be there,

16:05 or or maybe nicely saying that, I'll I'll come out in a couple

16:08 of days and explain to you guys why I pulled out last second,

16:11 she then directs her her PR team to not just make up a lie,

16:17 but to create an existential threat to her life,

16:22 which will ultimately assign blame on the public.

16:26 You guys failed to protect me.

16:29 That's why I'm not here tonight.

16:32 That's vicious.

16:34 That's malevolent.

16:35 I continue to underscore what Elizabeth Lane, the reporter, stated in her post,

16:39 that in her opinion, Erika Kirk exhibits the attributes of a psychopath.

16:43 That's that's psychopathic thinking to turn it around

16:45 on other people because you made a decision.

16:48 And by the way, I want to be clear,

16:49 I'm now of a different opinion as to why J.D.

16:51 Vance came out of the gates with all that energy,

16:55 fired up about how she was being treated.

16:57 I have no proof of this.

16:59 I'm going to speculate here,

17:01 but I do know that when Erika did not want people to show

17:04 up to the Catholics for Catholics event because I was speaking there.

17:07 We're not speaking about her.

17:08 We're not speaking about politics.

17:09 We're literally it was a prayer.

17:10 She made personal phone calls, and she cried on the phone.

17:14 Okay?

17:15 J.D.

17:16 Vance's energy is giving that Erica cried on the phone.

17:19 I think that when J.D.

17:21 Vance's plane was circling, of course Erica would have called him directly.

17:24 She would not have done that via a a third person,

17:26 a third-party person, out of out of respect.

17:28 I think she was on the phone with him, she cried.

17:30 Right?

17:31 His his energy is like the male, I need to protect a woman uh in distress.

17:37 Like she she she's a female,

17:38 she needs to She's I'm just scared and like I'm looking online and people

17:41 are saying like they're just saying that like they want me to die.

17:45 And I'm just like I'm just so overwhelmed right now, Mr.

17:47 Vice President.

17:48 I'm just so overwhelmed.

17:49 Dab dab dab.

17:50 No tears.

17:50 I'm so overwhelmed.

17:52 And he was probably like, "Oh my god.

17:54 And my kids, I just told them my kids will be an orphan, Mr.

17:56 Vice President.

17:57 Just I know I'm so so I'm so sorry." That's what I think went down.

18:02 Okay?

18:03 That is the energy that he is giving is like, "Oh my gosh, I feel so bad.

18:08 I need to like protect this injured bird." So unfair that she's scared.

18:13 She's worried about her kids.

18:14 Just an event.

18:15 And the reality is that Erica just saw the crowd.

18:18 She didn't want to speak.

18:20 She dealt with J.D.

18:22 And then she directed Andrew to make up a a a sinister lie.

18:27 We're not going to call it a sinister lie.

18:29 Right?

18:30 Uh I think J.D.

18:31 on the phone probably tried to assure her the Secret

18:34 Service had already swept everything, it'll be fine.

18:35 And then she did something along the I can't, I'm sorry, my family.

18:39 And he was completely understanding cuz why wouldn't he be?

18:41 She's dropping like,

18:41 "I don't want my kids to be an orphan." Which is what he implies on stage.

18:46 Um that the Secret Service had things under control,

18:47 but that he understood that she needed to do what was right for her family.

18:51 That's my best read on the situation.

18:53 I think Erica is calculated.

18:55 And I want to say to J.D.

18:56 Vance, you better wake up fast, okay?

18:59 That's a black widow, my friend.

19:01 You will get bit.

19:03 And you should probably consult your wife on this matter.

19:05 Women understand these things better.

19:08 We know what women are capable of.

19:09 Men It's good to have that built into you that your instinct

19:12 is to want to defend a woman that is crying.

19:14 But let me tell you,

19:15 there are some women that are crying who will take you down in the end.

19:20 And um I just I got to give credit

19:23 to the Secret Service coming out and saying that she lied, leaking to the press.

19:27 That is humiliating for JD because he was manipulated.

19:31 But it it also represents a PR crisis

19:34 of epic proportions uh for Erica, make no mistake.

19:37 And I think it is obvious that uh they got they have

19:41 some crisis PR person and Andrew was sort of made to step

19:44 aside cuz what an idiot uh for not thinking that that would

19:46 backfire when you loop in the the executive office into this absurdity.

19:51 And it looks like they hired someone, probably in the last 24 hours,

19:55 judging by this article that I just read,

19:57 um which I'm going to show you cuz this is

19:58 the first time that the PR was kind of good here, for the first time ever.

20:03 Turning Point did not gaslight the public.

20:05 So whoever they brought in, they brought in a woman and she's like,

20:08 "Just stop with the BS.

20:10 No one believes this." And in the article get ready for the first time

20:14 they're going to admit that Erica may have done some things that are wrong.

20:18 It's mind-blowing.

20:19 I I couldn't believe the words I was reading,

20:21 especially because the Daily Mail is one of their favorite rags that just

20:24 like does all of their bidding and pretends that everything they say is right.

20:27 Um it says, "TPUSA cited concerns over serious threats to her safety,

20:33 but insiders say that that is not the full story.

20:37 Kirk has faced criticism from some online

20:40 commentators who felt that her return to public

20:42 life after Charlie's death was too swift

20:45 or that her appearances struck the wrong tone.

20:47 A close confidant confidant told the Daily Mail, quote,

20:50 'She is aware of how she is coming across.

20:52 She's not stupid.

20:53 She has seen the online comments.

20:55 She gets it.

20:56 It hurts.

20:57 Last month the backlash reached a new level after a viral video

21:00 by a comedian Drew Ski mocked Kirk's behavior after her husband's killing,

21:05 featuring exaggerated expressions and fake tears.' The insider continued,

21:08 "The Druski video showed her what people thought of her.

21:12 She's really hurt that people are feeling

21:13 this way about her, that they're mocking her.

21:15 She pulled out of the TPUSA event because of a bunch of factors.

21:19 I don't think it was just security concerns." The source said,

21:22 "If there were security concerns,

21:24 the vice president wouldn't have gone." That's the closest

21:27 that we're going to get to her admitting that they lied and that actually she

21:30 was embarrassed and that's why she pulled out.

21:34 Right?

21:34 That's like I was I was mind-blown by that.

21:37 And then it goes on.

21:37 By the way, they can never mention me without insulting me in the same sentence,

21:40 even when they're admitting that I was right.

21:42 It says, "Far-right commentator Candace Owens,

21:45 who has peddled outlandish conspiracy theories about Charlie's death,

21:49 suggested that Kirk's no-show was due

21:51 to low ticket sales." But the insider added,

21:54 "It wasn't just the ticket sales, either.

21:57 It was also mental exhaustion of like nothing I do

22:01 will be right and people will make fun of me, so she canceled." Okay.

22:05 Oh, it was because there were low ticket numbers

22:07 and you thought that you would be made fun of.

22:10 The writer also recaps that in the weeks that followed Charlie's assassination,

22:15 she returned to the public eye,

22:17 appearing at events and speaking engagements despite her grief.

22:20 Critics, however, claimed that her behavior

22:22 came across as performative or unnatural.

22:24 And the insider says, quote, "She says that she was putting on a face,

22:28 a brave face, and that's why she was doing what she was doing.

22:31 I agree that it was a bad look.

22:32 Everyone told her it was a bad look,

22:34 but she did it anyway." I know she's mourning Charlie,

22:36 we all are, but she just has a funny way of showing it.

22:39 Do I think that she's mourning enough?

22:41 That's not for me to say, but do I think that she's coming across badly?

22:44 Yes.

22:45 That much is obvious, and finally she's starting to see how weird it all looked.

22:48 That's a good thing.

22:51 I just I've never seen it.

22:52 I I mean like I read this and I went, "Wow,

22:55 they hired somebody who is not Andrew Tate Coburn and they are copping

22:59 to the fact that they have been gaslighting us and that Erika has been weird,

23:03 and that everything that they have done has been wrong,

23:05 and that they are telling us absurd lies,

23:07 and we are catching them in the lies, and they keep lying.

23:10 W- W- Andrew Kolodziej should have should have to apologize.

23:13 He should apologize to the vice president.

23:15 I'm sorry to say, but this feels like a win, right?

23:18 We got We got to take it where we can get it.

23:20 This feels like a win, like at long last someone said, "It's not working,

23:25 and we need we need to pivot." And that's because we have kept up the pressure,

23:29 and we have clocked them on every single lie.

23:31 I'm at the point right now I I want Erica to just

23:33 drop a book like If I Did Do It, you know, like O.J.

23:37 did.

23:37 If I Did Do It by Erica Kirk.

23:40 I think that would that would move more copies than the book about Shabbat.

23:43 Anyway, switching gears to her dear friend Victor

23:46 Marx because we now have proof that he

23:49 did indeed announce that Charlie Kirk had died

23:53 first to the world first, I should say.

23:55 And it's very interesting.

23:57 It's interesting because of everything we just learned about him,

23:59 and you wonder where he got that information.

24:01 It's at least relevant enough to plot on our timeline, is it not?

24:05 I think so.

24:06 Victor Marx was the uh first person who announced

24:10 that Charlie went to heaven, is what he said.

24:12 I'm going to show you that post right here.

24:15 And um the person who sent this to us,

24:17 they sent it to us in Eastern Standard Time.

24:19 Fortunately, they had it screenshots, their buddy sent it to them,

24:23 and it showed us the timeline, but it says here,

24:26 "Victor Marx wrote pray for Erica and their two little little

24:30 children who need the prayers now that Charlie is in heaven.

24:34 The shooter is in custody." And he did a video,

24:37 and he announced that Charlie had died,

24:39 and people in the comments were like, "But Glenn Beck posted he's stable.

24:43 This is not confirmed.

24:44 Who confirmed this?

24:44 I haven't seen anything posted that he passed." And I

24:48 didn't I just this I remember this happening on the day.

24:50 I do certainly remember that Victor Marx was

24:52 the first person to say that um Charlie had died,

24:55 and you should know that he posted that information at 1:13 p.m.

25:01 Utah time, Mountain Standard.

25:02 So, that is less than an hour after Charlie was shot.

25:06 Erica Kirk's dear friend Victor Marx announced that he had died.

25:10 That's just 50 minutes after Charlie was shot.

25:13 Who told him?

25:14 I feel like that is that is early and we should plot that here,

25:18 revisit our minute-by-minute timeline from September 10th and see where

25:23 that falls exactly because it's almost like he knew with Erica.

25:28 Um it's kind of like how Bebe knew a little too soon that he had been shot,

25:31 commented too soon just before the President of the United

25:34 States and Victor Marx put that video up at 1:13 p.m.

25:41 That That is That should be when Erica found out,

25:45 when she got off the phone with the doctor about.

25:48 So, the public didn't officially find out until

25:51 President Trump announced it um at 2:40 p.m.

25:55 on X.

25:56 Again, this is all in in Mountain time.

25:59 The Mountain time zone, so yeah, he beat him by an hour and 27 minutes.

26:05 That is That's weird.

26:07 I think it's weird.

26:07 Do you guys think it's weird?

26:09 Want to think about that and we will be right back after a brief break.

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29:01 Someone in the comments just noted, and I don't know if this is right,

29:03 but if it is, please do send us an email to more tips@candaceowens.com.

29:07 They said actually they heard first from Amir Safadi,

29:12 um, or Amir Sarfati, I think is his name.

29:15 And I know that he's very much involved in the churches

29:19 and pastors and all with all of these people.

29:21 So, if that is true, um,

29:23 and you have evidence of that, please send it over to us.

29:25 We'd like to plot it on our timeline.

29:27 That would be interesting cuz I think he is in the IDF.

29:30 Anyway, uh, Victor Marx, back to him.

29:34 Well, Baron Coleman also did some digging

29:36 and determined that he is a licensed firearms dealer.

29:41 Another brilliant find.

29:43 Take a listen.

29:45 But Candace made an interesting,

29:47 observation is that this guy likes to buy a lot of guns.

29:50 And what does he do with them?

29:52 Like, how does a private citizen buy 50 guns at a time?

29:56 And so, we went looking and what we found is he has a class one FFL.

30:03 Uh, lots of websites you can look this up.

30:04 This is one that we were able to redact his personal information out of.

30:07 You will find, uh, the the class one designation on some of the other websites,

30:12 but trust me, if you look him up,

30:13 the Victor Marx Group LLC, in Colorado Springs, where he lives,

30:19 you will find he has an FFL class one license.

30:23 What that means is he is a fire, a licensed firearm dealer.

30:28 He is a licensed firearm dealer.

30:32 Now, I don't know about your preachers.

30:34 I've had a few over my years.

30:38 I don't believe any of them have been licensed firearms dealers.

30:44 I've had a lot of political candidates that I've been around.

30:47 I don't remember any of them being licensed firearms dealers.

30:52 Sure is interesting.

30:53 Um I can tell you that Victor Marx still has not answered my messages,

30:56 by the way, despite doing the rounds in the press almost immediately.

30:59 He is claiming that he is willing to sit down with me,

31:03 but he's got some conditions.

31:04 He one of the conditions is that he wants to be able to bring his wife,

31:07 Eileen, but he does not want Corby Hall to be present,

31:11 the person whose letter I read.

31:13 That that's very relevant.

31:14 He is the person that had the experience with you

31:16 wanting weapons in Haiti when he advised against it, Israel.

31:20 It would just make sense that Corby Hall should be here because I

31:23 did not transact with Victor Marx for weapons in Haiti with Jimmy Barbecue.

31:28 I got to tell you guys,

31:29 I'm a gut player and just listening to Victor Marx's explanation

31:32 regarding his dealings with Corby Hall did not ring true to me.

31:36 Okay, I want you to listen to him explain.

31:38 He admits that he threatened uh to beat Corby Hall up,

31:42 uh but he gives an excuse for why he did that.

31:45 Let me know if his excuse passes the sniff test for you.

31:48 Take a listen.

31:50 The one thing he said that is true is I did say I would whoop his ass.

31:57 And what was the context of that?

32:01 Uh I he was you know, he's super depressed,

32:05 having troubles, and we got him here, and I I was walk him around

32:10 our training facility just for hours walking walking,

32:15 and he started making uh weird threatening any windows,

32:22 but I ended up taking him into the training

32:24 center and teaching him how to punch cuz you know,

32:29 he just said, "I'm I've never fought anybody.

32:32 I'm a feel like coward." I said, "Well,

32:33 you just need to learn how to do some basics." So,

32:35 I'm working on a bag with him to try to build up his confidence.

32:40 Um it didn't it didn't last though.

32:44 So, just to be clear, that little edit that we did there,

32:46 he's talking about the same day.

32:48 So, to recap, we took Cor- Colby Hall came and Colby was like,

32:51 "I'm depressed." And he was like, "Well,

32:52 I'm going to whoop your ass." It's just and then

32:57 um they stare at each other and then they do some

33:00 more walking around the compound and um he implies that like

33:04 he thought it Colby Hall was said something with innuendo.

33:07 I don't know if that means,

33:08 given the fact that he then in the next breath says that Colby Hall

33:10 has never fought and so he then took him to learn how to fight,

33:14 how to throw a punch.

33:15 I just don't feel like somebody would go to someone's property who is

33:19 a gun enthusiast and a registered um arms dealer and would just start a fight,

33:25 not even knowing how to throw a punch.

33:26 But, that's what he wants us to believe.

33:28 Like that Colby was surrounded by military men in a massive private property,

33:31 private fire- private firearm dealer and thought that it was a good

33:35 idea to threaten the property owner who has a security all around.

33:39 And uh then they just were like, "Yeah, let me just become best friends.

33:41 Yeah, let's learn how to fight." Yeah, no, I don't know.

33:46 Elsewhere in this interview,

33:48 the uh he's asked directly about trafficking arms and here

33:53 is what he was asked and here is how he answered.

33:56 Take a listen.

33:58 One of the primary accusations he has against you

34:01 is that you are seeking to traffic rifles to Haiti, Israel, and possibly Iran.

34:08 Have you ever sought to traffic rifles, arms of any kind to those countries?

34:15 Of course not.

34:16 It's illegal.

34:17 How would I even be where I am today?

34:20 For years of working with federal, state, local authorities,

34:24 uh that's something that he has dreamed up, I guess, but it's real simple.

34:31 When people and I'm realizing this day

34:33 and age when people bring allegations against you,

34:36 I'm I'm not one that has to defend it.

34:41 They have to prove allegations or they're discredited cuz everybody now uses

34:47 those words where you can't be sued for slander and liability all that.

34:52 So, it it's silly and it's sad.

34:57 So, just to clarify, Corby asserted that Victor Marx wanted guns sold in Israel.

35:03 He never said anything about it being an illegal transaction.

35:06 He asserted that the Haitian arms deal would have been illegal since

35:10 you are not allowed to do those sorts of transactions with Haiti.

35:13 Uh it federally it was like it's you can't do that.

35:16 Uh so, he cautioned, he declined and cautioned Victor Marx against it.

35:21 He also, and I'm speaking about Corby,

35:23 submitted to me some text messages which certainly go some way

35:26 of proving that Victor Marx at the very least was in communication

35:30 uh with Israel to purchase guns or rather to purchase the patent

35:35 for his business um Folded AR on on behalf of the IDF.

35:40 So, I'm going to read these messages and again um happy to have Victor Marx

35:45 on the show to sit down and dispute

35:46 and say these are inauthentic, but here they are.

35:48 Victor Marx wrote, um I've tried to help you in three specific areas,

35:53 your personal walk, your marriage, and your business.

35:55 willing to help put a deal in front of you,

35:56 but this is my name, my reputation, and my relationships that are on the line.

36:01 The Israeli Defense Group we are connected with is

36:04 ready to review the patent and possible deal.

36:07 Okay, so he's connected to an Israeli Defense Group if these messages are real.

36:10 Uh you don't know all of who I am and that's fine.

36:13 I'd like to know all of who you are.

36:14 I think the state of Colorado might want to know all of who you are.

36:17 He continues, but understand this, just last night a company that I'm

36:20 part owner of got awarded a major SOCOM contract for highly specialized work.

36:25 So, I am telling you God is moving,

36:27 but he's not obligated to bless you just because you're talented or wounded.

36:31 His grace is a gift and he resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.

36:37 And so in response, this is what Corby wrote.

36:40 He wrote, "Why so much focus on the IDF and not as much on domestic schools?

36:45 One to fund the other?

36:46 {question mark} Otherwise, just doesn't make sense.

36:48 God did not have me design this for war.

36:50 If he did, then it is for after schools.

36:53 If he did, then it is for schools are made

36:57 the primary primary focus and we have only covered less than 10%.

37:02 IDF is not going to be using

37:03 this for protection of children as a primary concern.

37:05 Are they putting men in their schools with it?

37:07 Correct me if I am completely wrong.

37:08 I would hate to send 1,000 units to the IDF and have

37:11 an unprotected school get shot up here." Which actually brings up a good point.

37:17 Can Israel guarantee to put one or two

37:19 in each of its schools along with a military order?

37:23 So he he he This is exactly what he said with what we read,

37:26 that he he wanted to make sure the primary focus was going to be

37:29 schools and that Victor Marx did not like that and he started using,

37:34 "Well, God and this and timing and that" to manipulate him.

37:37 And Victor Marx replies and says, "I'm glad you received my words.

37:40 Let's see if you apply them.

37:42 Corby, focus.

37:42 You won't be sending 1,000 units to anyone in the IDF.

37:44 You will get a paycheck for the patent and possibly your company

37:49 and then on to your next adventure." So he's basically saying,

37:52 "They're just going to buy it.

37:52 They're going to buy you out.

37:53 You know, you don't have to sell anything to them because they

37:56 just want they want your patent your patent for fold AR." So yes,

37:59 he is if these messages are him.

38:02 They're not.

38:02 I'm happy to have him dispute it,

38:03 but I certainly don't think Corby made these up last night.

38:06 And he I believe said that this conversation took place sometime in April.

38:10 Skyler, is that right?

38:12 I want to say it was April, but don't quote me on that.

38:15 It was.

38:15 Okay.

38:16 In April, he's transacting on behalf of the IDF.

38:20 I mean, is there another way to that?

38:22 Like, they want your patents so that they can go do what?

38:28 Are they known for anything good when it comes to schools?

38:33 So, that conversation took place in April of 2025.

38:38 What are we to conclude from it?

38:40 I am happy, just to be clear, to have Victor on with his wife.

38:44 If you'd like to have her, I have no problem with that.

38:46 But, we will need him to agree to sit down with Corby Hall because he

38:49 sent me a ton of messages and I would like to begin to sort through them.

38:53 Otherwise, I am happy to have just Victor on my show alone one-on-one.

38:57 If he would like to join me virtually to more generally

39:00 discuss his life and how he became so close with Erica Kirk.

39:03 How he knew, initially, before anybody else,

39:07 virtually at the same time as Erica Kirk, that Charlie Kirk had died.

39:12 He knew before me.

39:13 Certainly knew before me.

39:15 I'll leave it at that.

39:16 I will leave it at that.

39:19 By the way, before we get into this ATF report,

39:22 something that I forgot to mention to you

39:23 is that we found out that Robert Maxwell Yes,

39:28 I feel like we A lot of this is circulating around Epstein and Robert Maxwell,

39:34 if the former Mossad agent is to be belie- be believed,

39:37 he's the one who brought Epstein together with Ghislaine,

39:41 got him involved in arms trafficking first.

39:44 People forget this, this little tidbit.

39:47 But, also Victor Ostrovsky said the same thing.

39:49 He was initially brought in regarding the Iran-Contra deal in the '80s.

39:55 That is what dealing with Adnan Khashoggi.

39:59 Initially, that was what he was brought in to do with Israel.

40:04 Got turned into a blackmail ring.

40:06 The Mossad agent that tells the story, there's clips of him.

40:10 He says that like he thought that Jeffrey Epstein was

40:12 an idiot and they found more use to him blackmailing puppet politicians.

40:17 But, originally it was arms trafficking.

40:19 I'm bringing this up to you because something

40:20 that I forgot to mention is that Robert Maxwell,

40:22 Ghislaine's father, uh was one of the early investors into Bain Capital,

40:29 Mitt Romney's company.

40:30 Who knew what a tangled web we weave?

40:35 The company was started with seed money from Ghislaine's dad.

40:39 And then he's best friends at this time with Netanyahu?

40:45 Mitt Romney, they're at Boston Consulting Group,

40:47 they're having trouble raising money,

40:49 he's having trouble raising money for Bain Capital.

40:52 Apparently, the Los Angeles Times did a piece uncovering

40:54 this back in 2012 while Mitt Romney was running.

40:57 They learned that he was struggling to raise

40:58 the initial 37 million that they wanted for their fund.

41:02 So they turned to foreign investors and Robert Maxwell

41:05 gave him 2 million out of the 37 million,

41:08 as well as some other for foreign shady investors.

41:12 Here it is.

41:13 Um yeah.

41:16 That's that's fascinating.

41:18 Like I said, a tangled web we weave.

41:20 Eventually, I think we're going to need to put together a column of people

41:26 that seem to just be 1° away from Jeffrey Epstein on our spreadsheet.

41:31 Eventually, that column might become necessary because it

41:34 just keeps coming up as a recurring theme.

41:38 Anyway, back to the uh uh regarding rather the ATF.

41:41 The ATF summary has been released.

41:44 Um they're trying to make it catch or pretend

41:46 that there's something in there that's big or explosive.

41:49 It's not.

41:50 It's actually it's non-explosive.

41:51 That's one of the things that I just keep saying and I

41:54 want to keep repeating myself so that you get this through your mind.

41:57 They have not yet proven that Tyler

42:00 Robinson's weapon was even fired on September 10th.

42:04 That's nowhere.

42:04 First thing you would do if you were brought into the police that they would do,

42:07 conduct that basic test to see if you had gun residue on you.

42:12 They would also test the weapon.

42:13 Bomb dogs were brought in.

42:15 They did not find that weapon, which means that it was not recently fired.

42:19 Neither the bomb dogs or the canines were able to determine that.

42:24 So, that's a major problem here.

42:25 I I From the beginning I've been saying they

42:27 are not going to be able to connect this gun.

42:29 My uh belief of of what happened is that Lance Twiggs is way more involved.

42:35 I believe he's a federal asset.

42:37 I believe as his roommate, he got Tyler Robinson's gun.

42:40 He got Tyler Robinson's casings and at an earlier

42:45 time and then that was dropped off at some point,

42:48 maybe the day before or on September 10th,

42:51 that gun was dropped off and then it was found.

42:53 Um and that's why the bomb dogs couldn't

42:55 find it because it was not recently fired.

42:57 They can, I believe, uh smell it even if it rains,

43:00 they they could still smell the gun residue

43:02 up to 7 days after the weapon is fired.

43:05 They did not fire They did not find it, so it was not fired, okay?

43:08 And so, they've released this uh ATF summary, to be clear,

43:12 and the press is doing what they're doing cuz they've

43:14 been trying to slant this case in favor of the prosecution,

43:18 pretending that there's some bombshell in it.

43:19 Just know that there is not a bombshell.

43:22 Um it's getting no traction, uh but we can pull this up very quickly and it

43:26 just basically verifies exactly what the defense laid out in their filing,

43:31 that all they got was this.

43:32 They got a summary report and they told you what they took a look at.

43:36 Uh they determined that the cartridge case matched gun that okay,

43:42 the Remember he's he's carving the case Okay, whatever, we knew that.

43:46 I never was under any illusions that this was

43:48 not going to be Tyler Robinson's gun.

43:51 I knew that it was Tyler Robinson's gun.

43:52 I knew that it had his prints on it and it also had six sets of other prints.

43:56 Whose prints are those?

43:59 Who are the other party me, five other sets of prints that are on that gun?

44:03 That would be an interesting thing for us to learn.

44:06 And so, it basically says, "Yeah, the cartridges match the gun.

44:09 That's all happening not inside of Charlie's body."

44:12 And then it tells us that the bullet jacket,

44:14 the fragments from the bullet jackets,

44:17 could not be identified or excluded as having been fired from the exhibit

44:23 one rifle based on an agreement of all discernable class characteristics.

44:28 And so now they are asking or they are alleging

44:32 that they are going to look into the matter of different way.

44:37 They're going to use microscopic comparison just in time for me to get

44:41 a microscope for my birthday cuz I promise you I will do tests.

44:46 However, they say they are conducting this, if they say it works,

44:50 they can conduct they can match this I will make sure that I get

44:54 into the backyard and I make sure

44:56 that that is actually a manner that can be done.

44:58 I am going to become an expert at microscopes overnight, I promise you,

45:03 because this all now is beginning to look as it always has looked,

45:06 which is like funny business.

45:07 They are just trying to make this fit.

45:09 They are corrupt.

45:11 They know they don't have a case.

45:12 They want to bring back old FBI tactics that were first put

45:15 in place after JFK was shot because they lied about that as well.

45:19 And this is that all over again.

45:21 He was assassinated.

45:22 I believe the government our government was involved.

45:26 I believe foreign governments were involved as well.

45:28 That this hit was allowed to go through and that Charlie

45:31 Kirk was removed as a barrier to the Iranian war.

45:34 That is my opinion based off of everything that I have

45:36 looked at and that many people are now engaged in a cover-up.

45:40 Um and I also believe that they're all going to get caught.

45:43 So, there is that.

45:44 Happy optimistic message.

45:46 We'll be right back after a break.

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47:41 I'm telling you guys, um I'm getting a microscope.

47:45 Feds are out here messing around, they're going to find out.

47:47 I'm telling ATF, you're going to find out.

47:48 I'm going to get a microscope.

47:49 I'm going to put on the glasses.

47:51 I'm going to do everything.

47:51 I'm I'm going to examine whatever you say

47:54 is the manner that in which you do this.

47:55 You're not going to just a bunch of big

47:57 words and we use analysis of the bullet and nope.

48:00 We are going to do our due diligence with this case.

48:03 If you are saying that this bullet,

48:05 which we were initially told they found the bullet.

48:08 Now they're saying it's a fragment and now they have

48:10 to bring in special techniques to try to connect it.

48:12 Uh doesn't make any sense.

48:14 Doesn't make any sense at all.

48:16 Top comment from uh yesterday's I'm sorry

48:18 for yester- from yesterday's episode, that's correct.

48:20 Where was all of this amazing security

48:22 when Charlie said they're going to kill me?

48:25 They were receiving his messages.

48:27 Dan Flood was receiving his messages and then

48:29 after he failed um to protect Charlie,

48:34 didn't even as I am told from our sources, did not even do a walk-through.

48:38 All he cared about in the lead-up to that was

48:40 ensuring that they had a clean exit behind Charlie.

48:44 They ignored the security concerns that were expressed by the school.

48:48 That they shouldn't do this in a uncontrolled

48:51 area for tra- uncontrolled traffic area.

48:54 They put him there like a sitting duck.

48:56 They got him out of there fast and then after that, what do we know?

48:59 Dan Dan Flood gets offered a bonus and a raise from Erica.

49:07 Okay.

49:09 Totally normal.

49:10 Maybe you should add that to the Daily Mail article.

49:11 Not the most normal thing to do.

49:13 Actually, you got one job and you failed it.

49:16 You don't offer that person a promotion.

49:19 Uh but she did.

49:20 Robert Madden wrote, "The only threat she should worry about is

49:23 the truth coming out." That is correct, guys.

49:25 I have to show you this tweet.

49:27 Speaking of which, that took me out when I saw this.

49:30 It was for I didn't even retweet cuz it was so good.

49:32 I wanted to show you guys just on my show.

49:34 Um this person Zach wrote,

49:36 "I interviewed the chair sending Erica death threats and this is

49:39 what it had to say." Just love the internet.

49:44 I just love the internet.

49:46 The internet is just always here for a good time.

49:49 Okay, let's read some of your comments from today's episode.

49:53 Nikki Schumacher writes, "As a reformed Baptist in the deep south,

49:56 I have started worshipping with the Presbyterians cuz I just

49:58 can't with the false gospel of Israel is God's bride.

50:02 It's It is just so obvious that it is a heresy.

50:06 More obvious than it's ever been.

50:08 Uh them constantly using Bible verses to tell you why

50:10 it's totally fine for Israel to just incessantly murder children.

50:16 Just to incessantly steal.

50:18 And it I think across the board, by the way,

50:21 I find Christian Zionists to be worse than

50:24 uh the radical Zionists that are in Israel.

50:26 I really do.

50:27 Cuz it's like it's it's there's something especially gross

50:29 about doing it while wearing a veneer of Christianity.

50:32 You can almost understand it for a lot of the the Jewish Americans, right?

50:36 In the same way like I always say like

50:37 we were raised as black Americans and like you're

50:39 kind of learning about slavery and like that's going

50:41 to be your scariest point of historical reference in school.

50:44 You can understand when a a Jewish Zionist, how they could fall into that trap.

50:47 And a lot of them are now waking up.

50:49 The scales are falling from their eyes.

50:50 They are not with Bibi Netanyahu.

50:53 Um look at the polls.

50:54 Jewish Americans are realizing he he's just a mass murderer.

50:57 It's all he's he's literally Jeffrey Dahmer.

51:01 He probably he's That's it.

51:03 He just goes but calls himself Prime Minister.

51:04 It's like I'm Prime Minister Jeffrey Dahmer.

51:06 And then you have a bunch of people trying

51:07 to tell you why it's biblical what he's doing.

51:09 Like constantly uh harming children,

51:11 excusing the rape of prisoners who haven't even had any trials.

51:15 They're They're literally just being held because they're Palestinian.

51:19 And I I totally agree with you that it

51:23 is there's just an awakening happening all across.

51:25 And you can see that in the numbers.

51:26 People are leaving uh a lot of these deep south Baptist churches

51:31 because they realize they're not worshipping

51:33 anything but the modern state of Israel,

51:36 which has absolutely nothing to do um with the Israel of the Bible.

51:41 Biggy Kells writes, "Erica canceled her fake Inga appearance because

51:44 the true threat was Drusky showing up and out-performing her.

51:48 It's actually funny cuz Baron clocked that on his show last night.

51:51 He was like, I think she canceled the appearance because of Drewski.

51:54 Like because now everyone is like, this is what the world thinks of you,

51:57 and she couldn't show her face,

51:58 and she should have just said that, or she should have said nothing.

52:02 You are allowed to say nothing.

52:03 You are allowed to say Erika's not something came up.

52:07 There'll be more information in the coming days.

52:09 Erika's not going to be here tonight.

52:10 That's it.

52:11 But instead, Andrew came out there with the energy of it's your fault,

52:14 and he should apologize, but he won't because he has exercised

52:17 no humility in anything um since September 10th.

52:20 It's probably who he always was, if we're being frank.

52:23 James the least writes,

52:24 I saw Ben Shapiro blaming you and your viewers for the threats against Erika.

52:27 What a tool.

52:28 Why are you watching Ben Shapiro?

52:30 Like, who cares?

52:31 I mean, this is the guy that sits down with BBnet and Yahoo,

52:34 and then tells us that Theo Von is a threat to civilization.

52:38 Okay.

52:39 He like literally interviews mass murderers, like Zelensky,

52:41 on his show, and he's like, these people are great.

52:43 What we really need to do is deal with Theo Von,

52:45 who's the happiest, kindest person.

52:48 Theo Von's essentially the class clown.

52:50 Loves everybody left and right,

52:51 makes everybody laugh and feel good, and Ben Shapiro, of course,

52:54 could find a problem with Theo Von because since the time he was a kid,

52:58 nobody has ever liked Ben Shapiro.

53:00 And the world's caught on.

53:01 He's been buying views throughout his entire life.

53:03 He's never going to go away.

53:05 Just get used to like that buzzing noise in the background.

53:08 Um he wants popularity.

53:09 He's never going to have it because of who he is as a person.

53:12 That's who he is.

53:13 Has nothing to do His ideas suck, too,

53:15 but it's it's truly just how he deals with people

53:18 and how he problematizes people for having a heart, which is what Theo Von has.

53:21 That's what he hates about Theo Von, and he wants him canceled.

53:24 It's just unbelievable.

53:26 Tim Morgan writes, um oh, I just read that.

53:29 Uh oh, the most credible threat to Erika and her crew is the truth.

53:33 Seven Sheets writes, if I am to believe the truth always wins,

53:36 of which I am not fully convinced,

53:37 but I must support the ones that I feel are searching for the truth.

53:40 Brave and undeniably fierce work, Candace.

53:42 Prayers and faith to cover us all.

53:44 You have to believe, I'm telling you, in the end truth does win.

53:47 I I just know it.

53:48 I can't explain it.

53:49 You can see it cuz they're just too radical.

53:52 There's no strategy anymore.

53:53 They're coming undone.

53:54 And yes, there is a threat in their desperation.

53:58 They're chaotic.

53:59 It's not moving like it used to move where they were trying to make friends.

54:02 They don't care anymore.

54:03 Again, like I just said,

54:04 they're like taking shots at Theo Von, um which is just dumb.

54:07 Like objectively on its face, it's dumb.

54:10 Uh you know, you have to you have to be appealing.

54:12 You have to have people like you.

54:13 You can't just make enemies with everybody.

54:15 Your argument can't just be well,

54:16 we have power um and we're willing to to cancel people for not agreeing with us.

54:21 But I I sense, like I said,

54:24 in that a certain desperation, which certainly means that truth is winning.

54:27 So, we have to be the happy people.

54:28 We have to be the people that laugh are laughing and just commit ourselves

54:31 to constantly telling the truth um and getting

54:33 around their cancel culture, if you will.

54:37 Miss Moxy writes, "I need you to listen to the song

54:40 Good Citizen Citizen Good Citizen by I Am A.

54:42 I feel like you wrote the lyrics for her.

54:43 We love you, Candace.

54:44 God bless you and keep you in God's work.

54:46 We are your army standing behind you always.

54:48 Thank you." We Not Me 84 writes,

54:51 "Maybe it wasn't 100% vanity and maybe it was a bit more nefarious.

54:56 The donors have clearly chosen Rubio for 2028.

55:00 Maybe this was part of the ongoing humiliation ritual of J.D.

55:03 Blessings to the CEO team." Yeah, I saw um you know,

55:07 I I follow I follow Mel on X.

55:10 Village Crazy Lady is her handle,

55:12 and she thinks that that they were trying to make J.D.

55:15 Vance look bad.

55:16 Um I certainly do think that Erica will dump him without question.

55:20 Like she she will just completely do that because

55:23 she wants access and and proximity to power.

55:26 I mean, it's unbelievable how much wealth this girl has

55:29 that she's traveling around the way that she's traveling around.

55:31 It's just unbelievable.

55:33 But, I do truly believe that it was

55:35 the ticket sales last night because she went in.

55:37 Right?

55:38 So, if they were setting him up, she wouldn't have even got on the plane.

55:40 I think she went there.

55:41 They thought they were going to be able to last-minute sell a bunch of tickets.

55:44 Um they couldn't do it.

55:45 They were probably They probably had

55:46 those students running around just saying like,

55:48 "It will pay you to be there." And at that point,

55:51 she was humiliated and decided that she didn't want to show her face, and J.D.

55:55 Vance did what honestly Charlie would have done.

55:57 That's That is the difference.

55:58 Uh Charlie had character.

56:00 Charlie could admit when he failed, when something didn't work,

56:02 and then he would have been scribbling on a notepad,

56:04 "Here's what we need to do next to avoid

56:06 this, and here's how we could have been better.

56:08 How How can we be faster, better, stronger?" Um what can we do differently?

56:12 And that demonstrates that he was a natural-born leader,

56:14 and Erica is not a natural-born leader.

56:17 Um she is I don't know.

56:19 I don't even know how to describe her.

56:21 Um she's ambitious as all hell,

56:26 and um she has an idea of where she'd like to be,

56:30 but she has no idea what it takes to get there,

56:33 and she's never demonstrated a capability to build

56:35 something on her own and sustain it.

56:37 And that might be harsh, but it's reality.

56:41 That's the truth.

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56:55 That bumper sticker, can I just go to Can we just open that bumper sticker?

56:58 Your car needs this.

56:59 Your car is looking dirty.

57:02 Your car is looking not beautiful.

57:04 It needs an upgrade.

57:06 It needs this bumper sticker.

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57:15 That's what your car needs.

57:16 Like I just I would be very upset that it wasn't on the back of your car.

57:18 I want to see somebody with that on the back of their car.

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57:27 Anyways, you guys, we will It's Thursday, gosh,

57:31 so I'm not going to see you tomorrow.

57:32 I will see you for the book club tomorrow cuz we bumped last week's

57:35 to accommodate Trump's tweet and so we'll see you for the book club tomorrow.

57:39 Lot happening.

57:40 We're learning a lot about Freemasonry and yeah, it's getting very interesting.

57:44 We'll see you guys then.