Brianna LaPaglia & Josh Richards: How to Become a Content Creator and Life after BFFs
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0:09 Alright, everybody, it's time for the main event.
0:13 Our fireside chat All right, they're here already.
0:16 she is and American podcaster, social media personality,
0:22 and content creator for Barstool Sports.
0:26 Please welcome to the stage, Briana LaPaglia.
0:29 Hi, everybody.
0:30 How are we doing?
0:31 So happy to see all your faces in here.
0:33 This is great.
0:34 And of course, he is a Canadian actor, host, entrepreneur.
0:39 The list goes on.
0:41 The king of the viral to venture pipeline.
0:45 How about a warm welcome for Josh Richards?
0:49 What's up everybody.
0:50 Actor first is crazy by the way, but I like it.
0:53 It kind of kind of gave me some confidence up here.
0:55 How's everyone doing?
0:57 You guys can answer.
0:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
0:59 That's great.
0:59 Me and Bri haven't been together for a while.
1:01 Obviously, with BFFs coming to an end, sadly.
1:03 Yeah.
1:04 But we're back, and there is a lot to talk about.
1:06 A lot to cover.
1:07 Yeah, there is.
1:07 And it's exciting to be here, too, because how we created,
1:10 it kind of started off a little bit different for both of us.
1:13 And I don't know, does anybody in here like looking to be
1:16 a creator or get into that field or do stuff like that?
1:19 Yeah, I feel like I see a lot of people.
1:20 I see a lot of nervous hands.
1:22 You gotta be confident with it.
1:23 Put that hand up?
1:23 Yeah.
1:24 Say yes, I want to do it.
1:25 I want to do it.
1:26 We all have to start somewhere.
1:29 And I don't know if you guys remember,
1:30 app called Musical.ly, but, sadly, that is where I started.
1:33 So there's a lot of embarrassing videos of me online.
1:36 But at the end of the day, it did get me here.
1:38 And I think that is a good thing to to point out, right?
1:40 Its embarrassing to start.
1:42 It will be.
1:43 Because no one's following you.
1:44 Yeah, yeah.
1:45 So you're posting to no people and then you're posting something.
1:48 You're going to be cringe.
1:49 You have to get over the fact that you're going to be
1:51 cringe for a little bit if you want to make it.
1:53 I mean, at the end of the day, I think, you know, cringe is,
1:55 cringe is views and views at the end of the day
1:57 is going to get you to the right place.
1:58 Right?
1:58 And it's how you adapt with your content.
2:00 So, when I was younger, when I was 14,
2:03 13 and I was doing social media videos on Musical.ly,
2:05 it's going to be a very different type of video than I make today,
2:08 being 24, hopefully.
2:09 So, you know, you got to age up with your audience.
2:12 And I think that's just something that you learn as you go on.
2:15 I was very young doing it and, you know,
2:17 having to juggle school and social media all at the same time.
2:20 And, you know, extracurriculars,
2:21 if you're somebody that's in sports or in clubs or whatever you're doing,
2:25 there is a lot to balance.
2:26 But I think one of the great things that we have today,
2:29 that we didn't have as much of, back in the day was
2:32 the technology to be able to do everything in one place, right?
2:35 So with stuff like Windows, I mean,
2:37 having the ability to have a PC set up where you're able to, you know,
2:40 stream, which is a massive part of social media today.
2:42 Well, yeah.
2:42 Everyone that streams uses a PC.
2:45 Everybody.
2:46 Yes.
2:46 For streaming, for gaming, everyone that's gaming, that's doing that.
2:49 It's also so easy to edit on.
2:51 I think, if you are looking to get into creation,
2:54 one of the most important things to become good at is editing.
2:58 And like knowing your voice through your edits.
3:00 I think that kind of makes you step apart from people,
3:02 and to do it on Windows is honestly the easiest thing that you can possibly do.
3:06 Do you have like an early Windows memory?
3:09 Like even this is so nostalgic.
3:11 Right?
3:11 Like this brings me back.
3:12 When I was younger, I think when I started making content,
3:15 I was doing like movies,
3:16 and I used Windows, I was all on my PC You started in college, right?
3:20 Like, yeah, I started when and I wasn't even in the beginning of college either.
3:24 2019 is when I was like, okay,
3:25 you can see that you can make a career out of this.
3:28 You can make money out of it.
3:29 I see Josh Richards and Griffin Johnson.
3:33 How old were you guys?
3:34 17, 18?
3:34 I was 17, I was the youngest one besides Quinn.
3:36 Yeah, and they're driving Lamborghinis and living in the hills and in Hollywood.
3:39 And I'm in the middle of Ohio at, like, a school in the middle of nowhere.
3:42 I'm like, I want to do this.
3:44 I want to make money, too.
3:45 But I'm not going to take my shirt off and dance.
3:47 What am I going to do?
3:48 I started off on TikTok and, it was so embarrassing,
3:52 But if you keep pushing and you want it bad enough,
3:56 you can end up going to the hills with Josh Richards Yeah,
3:59 and I mean, I think the other thing is, is that you realize,
4:01 like a lot of those people that, try to put you down to live themselves up.
4:04 All of those people do come knocking back as soon as you've made it right.
4:08 They're going to be the first people that are going to be like, oh, wait,
4:10 bring me out to LA or oh, wait, wait, I want to do this now.
4:13 Can you help me?
4:14 So, you know, it is something that will come
4:16 around and you will be the last one laughing.
4:19 You talk about finding your voice and editing yourself.
4:21 Like what was that process like how did you come to find your voice?
4:24 What was it that really made you feel like?
4:26 I think I just, like, found my demographic,
4:30 which was the college girls, and I was relatable to them.
4:33 I was doing like, my hung over content, my blue raspberry content.
4:36 I don't know if anyone remembers that, but that's when people like, really,
4:39 if you find your niche and you get people
4:41 to enjoy it and feel like they're there with you,
4:44 then they're along for the ride.
4:45 And it's not just like, hey, watch me do what I'm doing.
4:47 If you are somebody that you know is wanting to get into the social space,
4:51 and that is as a creator, as somebody in the back end with marketing
4:54 is if that is like bringing your company online,
4:57 whatever it is, any time you're using
4:59 something with social media, finding your niche.
5:01 You know, like Bri when she was first starting the college content,
5:03 what she was going through on the day
5:05 to day of partying and trying to juggle school,
5:08 having that chaos be the content of juggling both lives,
5:11 was relatable to a lot of people,
5:13 and then people were able to, become a part of that community
5:15 and feel like they were connected to you in one way.
5:17 so you're able to kind of, you know, give that message along a lot easier.
5:20 Yeah.
5:21 How did BFFs even become a thing?
5:23 Because that I feel like is what kind of catapulted us
5:26 and Dave just like into a different universe of social media.
5:29 I made a diss track and it went online, went viral,
5:33 and then David tweeted out about it and being like,
5:36 why are these wiggle dickers showing up on my feed?
5:38 Those were his exact words.
5:40 And so in that moment, you know, look at that and you go, okay, like,
5:43 how can we bring somebody that so outside of this world,
5:46 into this world of drama, fill them in.
5:48 And then now you have like a one plus one equals three situation where
5:52 the two of us are bringing completely
5:54 different audiences together to focus on one thing.
5:56 So we went live on Instagram together had good chemistry on there,
5:59 and we're able to go back and forth.
6:00 And from that, a brand actually came in and was like, hey,
6:04 we would love for you guys to do a show on our platform.
6:07 What brand?
6:08 And it was, it was Snapchat.
6:09 So then it's like me kind of improving
6:11 and pivoting as we're on the call, being like, well,
6:13 what if we took this series that I have called TeaTok
6:17 and we turn it into a podcast and it's me and you,
6:20 and I teach you all the drama that goes on in the world,
6:22 like what we just did on that livestream.
6:24 So then at this point, I'm just throwing out ideas,
6:26 hoping something, goes over well with Dave.
6:28 And he liked it and was like, yes, I'm down to do that.
6:31 Let's talk about it.
6:31 So then we figured that out, did it together,
6:34 didn't work perfectly with just us two,
6:36 and then brought and Bri and the show was great.
6:38 That's also something about social media that you
6:40 kind of have to know when to keep
6:42 doing something and when to leave it in the past and move on to the next thing,
6:47 because there are so many things that people
6:48 grasp on, onto and keep trying to make work.
6:51 not a bad thing to leave it.
6:53 It's just the start of the next story.
6:54 Right.
6:54 So, talking about that though, Bri, after BFFs, what is the next moves?
7:01 Obviously, you've done reality TV, now What's the next big thing for Bri?
7:04 Yeah, well, that's the scary thing about ending
7:07 something that was the biggest part of your career.
7:11 You don't really know what you're going to do and how you're going to pivot.
7:14 And especially with social media,
7:15 it is one of those jobs where you don't really know what's next, and with BFFs,
7:20 I think it gives you a perfect lane and a voice where you
7:23 can shift into other things where you're not just one, Reality TV perfect.
7:26 Lame.
7:27 And you can get into other TV and then you can just like
7:30 kind of network with what you've already had and just move the spiderweb.
7:34 For sure.
7:35 For sure.
7:35 What are some hard lessons you think you learned through social media?
7:39 you know, how have you balanced either a good, personal and work life balance?
7:43 How have you balanced the mental health of it all?
7:46 What's that like for you?
7:46 I mean, I think I've learned all the lessons,
7:48 but, There's so many people in this industry where they want to work with you,
7:54 they want to collaborate with you,
7:55 it's icky because it's a social it's kind of like a social ladder very much
7:59 teaches you how to interact on this is
8:02 work life and then separate it from friendships,
8:05 which, I think is a really good skill to have.
8:08 And once you kind of are able to balance the two,
8:11 then you see your business rush,
8:13 because if you mix the both like I did a lot, you kind of saw it crumble.
8:19 this business is scary and cut throat,
8:20 and you have to know who to trust and what questions to ask.
8:23 Like with Alix Earle joining.
8:26 Alex Cooper's unwell network, she was so excited to join it.
8:30 So she just signed whatever.
8:31 And you kind of lock yourself into contracts.
8:34 You don't know who to trust because everything's looks shiny and new.
8:37 That's a big lesson I've learned to, like ask questions and make sure you
8:41 have the right people in your corner
8:42 backing those up and, like, read everything.
8:45 But do you think there's anything that the audience that watches us online
8:49 wouldn't know that you struggle with, with social
8:52 media maybe it's not biggest struggle,
8:54 but I think people's preconceived notions about you.
8:58 Like when people think that they know who you are before,
9:00 and obviously we're the ones that are exposing ourselves to the social media.
9:03 So we asked for it.
9:04 Right?
9:05 But I think like the weird thing is when
9:08 you meet people and they tell you like, oh, I thought you were going to be like
9:11 this or that, and it's like a negative thing, you know?
9:13 I think that's strange.
9:15 But, I feel like with all these things,
9:17 when anything is mental health on the side of social media,
9:20 it's going and talking to someone like Gabby.
9:21 For me, it's going to talking to my mom and my dad or it's,
9:24 it's (shoutout Gabby), or talking to like a couple of my, my friends.
9:28 Like, I think there's like,
9:29 a few people that, I'm able to go and talk to and feel like,
9:32 okay, everything's good in the world.
9:34 So I if you have those people you're going to be, you're going to be just fine.
9:37 You guys ready for Q&A?
9:38 Yeah.
9:39 Let's do it.
9:39 Okay, so raise your hand if you have a question.
9:42 Think of those questions right now.
9:44 Oh, okay.
9:44 We have a question right here.
9:46 This is for Josh.
9:48 I was wondering when you talked about
9:50 pivoting areas and expanding out in your career,
9:53 going from social media to different industries,
9:56 and advice that you'd have to founders,
9:58 you whether they want to branch out from what they're currently doing,
10:01 maybe an influencer who's going to create a company
10:04 or something like that, or a VC fund.
10:06 Yeah, whenever you're pivoting out of one area to the other,
10:10 I think what's super important is going and seeing who's done it before.
10:14 for example, when I went to go start a fund,
10:16 I got on a lot of calls with Ashton Kutcher.
10:18 Ashton Kutcher is somebody that has been in the venture
10:22 space as an angel investor and a venture capitalist,
10:24 but also was in entertainment first, and he was able to make that pivot.
10:28 So I got on a phone with him and was like, hey,
10:30 How did you make people in this industry take you seriously when you're,
10:35 a comedy actor and you're going now and saying, hey, guys,
10:38 give me millions of dollars and I'm going to go invest this for you.
10:40 Really?
10:40 Well, make sure you get some money back.
10:42 Like what was the path you had to take to gain that trust.
10:44 And then I think it's also just a little bit of, of putting yourself out there,
10:49 which can be a little bit nerve wracking and can be a little bit scary.
10:51 But I always looked at it as like, what is the worst possible outcome I can
10:55 get from sending a cold email to someone?
10:57 They say, no, just making sure you put yourself out there and talking
11:00 to the right people and learning from them is is always the great first step.
11:03 already.
11:04 My name is Sammy.
11:05 I'm back here.
11:05 Oh, you see your head?
11:06 What's up man?
11:07 I have a big question.
11:08 So what if you don't like your niche?
11:10 And how do you, out niche your niche?
11:11 If that makes sense.
11:13 That's a really good question.
11:14 And that you see that happen to people all the time.
11:17 I think it's really hard to transition out of it,
11:19 especially if you build your fan base based off of that.
11:23 But if you solely, increment other content in, but you don't
11:27 rip your niche away immediately because your fans kind of feel betrayed,
11:31 then you gain a new audience while you're doing it,
11:33 and it's kind of like a slow burn into your new thing,
11:37 would agree with Bri where like, you don't want to just,
11:40 abolish this, this group of people that you've
11:42 built from that niche because they are your audience.
11:45 You were able to curate that.
11:46 You obviously know how to speak to them.
11:47 Every once in a while, sprinkling in a different post and see what works well
11:50 and what doesn't with a new niche that you would like that.
11:53 Gotcha.
11:54 Thank you.
11:54 Yeah.
11:55 No problem.
11:55 Because.
11:56 Hi, my name is Layla.
11:59 And, my question was, do you guys have a huge international audience
12:03 or are you planning to expand into international audience?
12:06 Because I know you're from Canada and you've lived in New York.
12:09 and I'm international.
12:10 That's why I was asking,
12:11 are you looking to expand or how has it helped you, maybe if you, for example,
12:15 speak a different language or if you can relate to other cultures,
12:19 how is it helped you in your path?
12:21 I think it's every creator's goal to be global and career spanned,
12:24 but it is really I think it's one of the hardest things to do.
12:27 I think with streaming, and with gaming and that whole aspect of it,
12:32 you see that kind of go global.
12:34 Speed.
12:34 Speed.
12:35 Yeah.
12:36 He's worldwide.
12:37 Yeah, sure.
12:38 I think everyone to an extent wants to, make
12:41 sure that their audience can transcend just America.
12:43 But, is a difficult crossover.
12:44 I think going to those countries is honestly the best way to do it.
12:48 Like whenever you're able to tap into those countries
12:50 and show them love and make some content for them,
12:53 I think they actually appreciate it more than anyone here does.
12:56 Anyone else, yeah.
12:57 And to the community talk.
12:59 You build a great community out of it.
13:00 So yeah.
13:00 Bri, you were talking about contracts earlier.
13:01 I was just wondering what's something you would want just to advise us to, like,
13:06 look out for when we're, like, reading contract signing contracts?
13:09 Ask everyone that you know.
13:10 Ask your mom.
13:11 Ask your dad.
13:12 Ask your teacher.
13:13 Ask a friend.
13:14 Don't be the only person to have eyes
13:16 on a contract because you're bound to miss something.
13:19 Also, you're young, you're impressionable,
13:21 and no one knows what the hell that thing says.
13:23 So make sure to get as many eyes on it as you can.
13:26 Especially I know when I first started
13:28 I didn't have lawyer that I knew directly.
13:30 So I just asked everyone that I knew to get it in the hands
13:33 of someone that could tell me what I'm reading and YouTube, dude.
13:36 Seriously, YouTube everything.
13:38 Yes.
13:38 Thank you.
13:39 All right.
13:41 Thank you so much for being here tonight.
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14:04 Want to balance school and social?
14:06 Yeah.
14:06 Nothing better nothing better.
14:07 And you guys are the best.
14:08 Thank you so much for coming out and hanging out with us.
14:10 Thank you guys Josh and Bri.
14:12 Thank you.