Roblox Forsaken RESPONDED.. (SoulDrivenLove)
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0:03 There have been so many responses released about this situation,
0:06 but literally just 24 hours ago,
0:08 Soul Driven Love, otherwise known as a previous owner of Roblox Forsaken,
0:12 released their 64page response document to all of the allegations
0:16 that they have been facing for over the last decade.
0:18 And after personally reviewing everything, the entire response,
0:22 not only was the whole document possibly written by AI,
0:26 but it also completely undermined what Soul's victims
0:28 went through by just completely downplaying everything by saying,
0:31 "Oh, Soul was only 13 years old," or just
0:34 in general using very stupid counterarguments that make no sense whatsoever.
0:39 Soul being 13, 14, or however old he was when all this was happening,
0:44 it doesn't excuse anything.
0:45 And in this video, I go over the whole document and try
0:48 to break it down the best way possible so you guys can understand it.
0:51 But before we get into that though, please be sure to like this video,
0:54 subscribe to the channel,
0:55 and comment your thoughts about this whole entire response.
0:58 Now, considering it's been a while since I've covered this situation,
1:00 let me quickly do a recap of what happened.
1:03 In my last videos regarding the situation, I went in depth on Souldriven Love,
1:06 also known as robotic developer, the original creator of Forsaken,
1:09 who built the reputation on lies, manipulation,
1:12 and he was originally accused of using Forsaken funds to support Fungus,
1:16 a teenager who attempted a racially motivated and actually ended up someone,
1:21 and things only got darker from there.
1:23 Soul was caught manipulating minors, blackmailing them with private images,
1:26 and even distributing images of a minor.
1:29 He also kept no on his development team while he still owned
1:32 Forsaken like Stoppy Blue and only removed them after a massive public backlash.
1:37 Leaked DMs also showed him emotionally manipulating victims
1:40 to the point where some ended up hospitalized.
1:42 When the whole situation spiraled,
1:44 Soul staged a fake ownership transfer for Ssen as a PR damage control,
1:48 claiming he'd handed off the game to Hitoko and Basil.
1:51 The leaked messages later proved that it was all staged,
1:53 and his girlfriend Ava even admitted privately
1:56 he's still going to direct it in private.
1:58 I know Soul and I are still the owners of the game behind the scenes.
2:01 It was all an act.
2:02 Soul never actually stepped down from the game, at least not at that point.
2:05 Only later, it came out that after quote unquote leaving,
2:08 he and his associates still controlled 40% of Forsaken's revenue,
2:12 earning nearly $300,000 a month as of September 25th.
2:16 It wasn't a transfer, it was a cover up to protect his profits.
2:20 That's the whole story leading up to this so-called response document.
2:23 Better part of a decade of manipulation, deception, and behavior.
2:27 now rewritten in a 64-page AI crafted document
2:31 to try to save his image with deflections and excuses.
2:34 From the very first page, it's clear that this entire thing wasn't
2:37 written by a human being taking accountability,
2:39 but it was most likely written with AI.
2:41 Every sentence sounds artificially polished and emotionally hollow,
2:45 filled with generic phrases like,
2:46 "I take full accountability for my actions," or, "I was
2:49 in a dark place and made mistakes." The language structure,
2:52 repetition, and formatting are textbook signs of AI generated text.
2:56 It repeats the same empathetic tone over
2:58 and over again while saying almost nothing specific.
3:01 But what really gives it away is how carefully legal it sounds.
3:04 Every serious act from leaking material to blackmailing
3:08 victims is described in the softest possible language.
3:12 It's the same kind of phrasing a defense attorney
3:13 would use to turn criminal behavior into a moral mistake.
3:17 And here's what makes it worse.
3:18 Soul does admit to some of these crimes in this document,
3:21 but only in ways that protect himself legally.
3:23 He acknowledges that he shared the material,
3:26 but immediately follows it by saying he didn't fully understand what he was
3:29 doing or that he was also a victim of it's a manipulative half admission.
3:34 The kind is crafted to sound remorseful while
3:36 quietly trying to shift blame away from himself.
3:39 That's not genuine accountability.
3:40 That's called legal polishing.
3:42 The entire document sounds like something that was vetted and rewritten
3:45 by lawyers to limit liability while still giving the illusion of honesty.
3:49 And the entire goal of this is completely obvious.
3:52 Soul wants to rewrite history and protect his own public image.
3:56 The document doesn't deny everything, but it strategically reframes it,
3:59 admitting only what can't be disproven,
4:01 omitting context and softening the rest under
4:04 the excuse that he was young and dumb.
4:05 And again, that doesn't count as accountability because regardless of age,
4:09 the things Soul did,
4:10 for example, the distributing content of a minor, those aren't moral mistakes.
4:14 Those are federal crimes, which we'll get into a little bit later.
4:17 It doesn't matter if you were 13 or 30.
4:20 The act itself crosses legal lines.
4:22 Claiming youth as an excuse doesn't erase
4:25 the fact that real people were traumatized,
4:27 harassed, and manipulated as a result of these actions.
4:29 So, when this document opens up with a perfectly formatted apology
4:32 paragraph that sounds like it came straight out of Chat GBT,
4:35 it sets the tone for basically everything in this document.
4:37 Not a genuine attempt to make amends, but a calculated PR move designed
4:40 to minimize crimes under the guise of self-reflection.
4:43 So, we'll start off with what was said in the document.
4:45 Soul tried to rewrite the entire Fungus situation by claiming that Fungus,
4:49 the teenager who somebody in a racially motivated attack,
4:52 wasn't actually a neo dictator.
4:54 Soul says Fungus was just a severely mentally ill kid influenced by older
4:58 manipulative people and insists that he
5:00 didn't understand the gravity of his situation.
5:02 He even said that he spoke with Fungus's mother who supposedly told him
5:05 that the police charged Fungus with attempted
5:08 and that he was facing 6 years in jail.
5:10 Soul also said in that same document, this is the main point here,
5:14 I do not think it is immoral or wrong to lend financial aid to his mother,
5:18 knowing it supports both their family's
5:20 recovery and Fungus's chance at proper treatment.
5:23 He admits that he gave money directly from Forsaken funds to support them,
5:27 and even added Fungus' character to the game's map at the time.
5:30 The only line of genuine accountability in this section is when
5:33 Soul briefly conceds that attempting to take a life is inexcusable.
5:37 Wow, grass is green, Soul.
5:38 But that small acknowledgement doesn't undo the rest of the defense.
5:41 There's overwhelming evidence, including direct messages that Soul included
5:45 in this document where Fungus told Soul,
5:47 "We need to mass-produce ovens to more Jews." And Robo,
5:51 "We need more money quickly." Robo being Soul.
5:54 That proves that this was absolutely racially motivated.
5:56 Or at the very least, that this guy had some behavior stuck in his head.
6:01 At the time, Fungus used a German themed profile picture
6:04 and explicitly said he wanted to Turkish man because he was Turkish.
6:08 Soul's claim that this wasn't a hate crime was flatout false.
6:11 The law doesn't excuse violence because of mental illness or age.
6:15 Intent is what defines hate crime motivation.
6:17 Anyways, by funding Fungus and his family,
6:20 Soul indirectly provided material support to someone
6:23 who was convicted of a violent hate-based crime.
6:25 an act that could fall under title 18,
6:27 United States Code section 2339A, which prohibits
6:31 offering material assistance to perpetrators of violent offenses.
6:34 So no matter how soul tries to frame it as empathy or rehabilitation,
6:38 the truth is simple.
6:39 He knowingly defended, funded, and worked with a racist attempted.
6:43 In the next part of his document, Soul addressed his connection to Stoppy Blue,
6:47 claiming that he removed him from Forsaken
6:49 the same day he learned about his background.
6:51 He wrote that his original plan was
6:52 to simply remove Blue's animations by having them remade.
6:56 When the remake stalled, he readded his in-game credit after Blue allegedly
7:01 threatened to file a DMCA claim against the game.
7:03 Soul admitted that this was the absolute worst choice he could have made,
7:07 saying he bowed down to an manipulative
7:10 degenerate instead of just removing his content outright.
7:13 He then shifts partial blame to his girlfriend, Ava,
7:15 claiming that she was the one who later unbanned Stoppy Blue
7:17 from the Forsaken Discord server after being misled by one of his friends.
7:21 He ended that part by saying he won't speak too much
7:23 about it since Ava will hold herself accountable in her own response.
7:27 But this explanation only raised more red flags.
7:29 First, Soul's claim that he wasn't responsible
7:31 for the unbanned doesn't erase the fact
7:33 that he personally reinstated credit and platformed
7:36 a known to avoid a legal threat,
7:38 something no responsible developer would ever do.
7:41 Using fear of a DMCA claim as an excuse doesn't hold up either.
7:44 It shows willful complicity, not a mistake.
7:46 By keeping Stoppy Blue's work in the game,
7:49 Soul effectively allowed the creations of someone who was
7:51 involved in conduct to remain active in a platform
7:54 made for kids and trying to offload the blame
7:57 onto Ava only further shows that Soul isn't taking accountability.
8:01 He's distancing himself from the consequences of his own decision.
8:04 In the next part of the document, Soul dedicated a couple pages to addressing
8:07 what he calls leaking illegal material, sending and catfishing.
8:11 He opens with an apology claiming he wants to be honest and take accountability,
8:15 but immediately starts softening everything that follows.
8:18 He admitted that in 2021, when he was 13 years old,
8:21 he showed an photo of someone he says was between 16 and 18 years old.
8:26 I'm just going to interject here right off the bat.
8:28 In the title of that same place, he admitted that the person was 16 years old.
8:32 I have no idea why he's now trying to elevate their age by saying, "Oh, no.
8:37 They they weren't just 16.
8:38 They could have been 18, too.
8:40 It's stupid." Anyways, back to what I was saying.
8:42 He said that the person sent the image thinking he was older and that he
8:45 later shared it out of anger because
8:47 an image of himself had been circulated online.
8:50 Soul claims that he was taken advantage of by multiple
8:52 adults and lashed out by playing a cool,
8:54 edgy villain persona to appear unbothered.
8:57 He also admits to sending graphic, but blames it on growing up in a toxic
9:01 online circle where racist and violent content was normalized.
9:04 As for the catfishing,
9:05 he says that he only lied about his age and gender out of insecurity,
9:08 not manipulation, and that he didn't know
9:10 that transgender people were real at the time.
9:12 I don't think I need to add more to that.
9:14 This segment is pretty obviously one
9:16 of the most manipulative parts of the entire document.
9:18 Soul admits to committing crimes,
9:20 then spends paragraphs reframing them as mistakes from youth.
9:23 Admits to sharing an image of someone aged between 16 to 18,
9:27 regardless of intent, retaliation, or age, it's still child under title 18,
9:33 United States code section 2252 A-2, which makes it
9:37 a federal crime to distribute or transmit material involving a minor.
9:42 The fact that he was 13 doesn't erase the crime.
9:45 It only changes how it would be prosecuted.
9:48 But the act itself still violates federal law.
9:51 Using that same image or threats of exposure
9:54 to emotionally control victims can also fall under title
9:57 18 United States code section 875 which covers coercion
10:01 and blackmail using any threats of reputation or person.
10:05 Also his claim that the police
10:07 found no illegal material is completely meaningless
10:09 because distribution doesn't require current possession
10:12 and he already admitted to sharing it.
10:14 As with the catfishing thing,
10:15 Soul tended to frame it as insecurity, which doesn't undo the harm.
10:18 Catfishing isn't a federal crime necessarily,
10:20 but it does become illegal when it's used to deceive or manipulate people
10:23 into sending content or to emotionally them
10:27 conduct that could violate federal harassment laws.
10:30 But I I do have to look into that.
10:31 The same goes for sending and racist imagery.
10:34 So, blaming him being desensitized to the whole thing doesn't make it harmless.
10:39 It shows a repeated lack of empathy and intent to shock.
10:42 Every part of this section is written
10:44 to sound remorseful while quietly minimizing accountability.
10:47 The truth is very simple.
10:49 Soul didn't act out of confusion or immaturity.
10:51 He deliberately distributed content of a minor,
10:54 emotionally manipulated his victims,
10:56 and tried to disguise that behavior as childhood mistakes.
11:00 He's literally describing calculated damage control.
11:03 After admitting to leaking material, Soul spends the rest of his document
11:07 reframing everything as an emotional collapse and misunderstanding.
11:10 He says that March 18th was one of the hardest days of his life,
11:13 claiming that his partner Ava's attempt left in spiraling,
11:17 which supposedly explains why he lashed out at people at two of his friends.
11:21 But tragedy doesn't erase accountability.
11:23 He wasn't a victim of panic.
11:25 He was someone who weaponized his instability to avoid responsibility.
11:28 He then defends the Forsaken sale by saying he never wanted to sell
11:32 and that he treated Forsaken as his child and that Ava pushed him into it,
11:36 even though leaked logs show that he
11:38 personally tried to profit while secretly keeping control.
11:41 On the charity funds, he blames the LLC paperwork and the Devex delays,
11:45 insisting no money was stolen.
11:47 Yet over 400 million Robux,
11:49 around $1.4 $4 million sat in group funds he controlled and some of it
11:53 ended up in his own personal
11:54 accounts which actually violates state charity laws.
11:58 Soul also claimed that his silence after
12:00 May 28th wasn't avoidance but a mental collapse.
12:04 He said that screenshots of him on Roblox or Minecraft
12:06 were just coping mechanisms which is not proof of indifference.
12:10 Another example of him painting himself as the victim.
12:12 Then there's his alt account called The Only Roblox Gamers 2,
12:16 which says was just a way to exist peacefully while helping a friend.
12:20 He ended that part by admitting that he continued appearing
12:23 under the soul-driven love name even after all the allegations,
12:26 saying that it's a step towards accountability.
12:29 But in reality, at least the way I view it,
12:32 it was just disrespectful to the people he hurt.
12:35 Throughout every section so far, the same pattern repeats.
12:38 Partial confession followed by an emotional justification.
12:42 Soul didn't grow or take accountability.
12:44 He kept lying, manipulating, and profiting off of Forsaken,
12:47 earning 40% of the game's revenue while pretending to have stepped down.
12:51 In the last part of the document that I think needs to be pointed out,
12:54 he tried to dismiss the leaked screenshot where he said,
12:57 "I'm not a good person, never have been,
12:59 and I haven't changed a slight bit from 2021." He
13:02 now says that he was just spiraling at that time.
13:04 And when he said it, he insisted that he's changed,
13:07 claiming he no longer uses slurs, no longer harasses people,
13:11 or no longer hacks account like he did when he was younger.
13:14 But his behavior contradicts that.
13:16 He continued to lie, manipulate,
13:17 and profit off of Forsaken long after claiming to have grown,
13:21 saying, "I used to be worse," isn't proof of change.
13:24 It's an excuse.
13:25 The reality is that screenshot was the most
13:28 honest thing he said in the last few years.
13:30 He hasn't changed.
13:31 He's only gotten a little bit better at rewriting everything.
13:34 That's everything that I believe was worth mentioning.
13:37 If there's something I missed, um,
13:39 Soul's full Google document will be shown in the pinned comment of this video.
13:43 And listen, I'm going to be honest.
13:44 I'm not here to tell you how you should feel about it,
13:46 but the evidence should speak for itself.
13:49 This was no redemption arc.
13:50 It was more or less a rebrand wrapped around in fake remorse.
13:54 Again, if you want to read the full 64page response for yourself,
13:57 I've linked it in the pinned comment below.
13:59 And as always, please make sure to like the video,
14:02 subscribe to the channel, and comment your thoughts on this whole thing.
14:04 I've been following this whole situation pretty closely,
14:07 especially with the whole Hitoko situation around the corner.
14:09 So, if any new information does come out,
14:11 I'll be sure to make another video about it as soon as possible.
14:14 Until then, I'll see you guys in the next video.
14:16 Bye.