What Makes a Strong Startup CEO (Startup Mini-Series)
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0:00 so over the years I learned the hard way that there
0:03 is a direct link between the founders leadership skills and the outcome
0:07 of their startups but the reality is that it's really two
0:10 different things there are the managerial skills being a good manager
0:13 and the leadership skills and these are two separate things
0:15 and the reality is that you've got to excel at both of them
0:18 if you want to get your startup to the right place so
0:20 the first part of being a great startup CEO is to be
0:24 a good manager in over the years I found a way
0:27 to represent what I think the startup CEO role is as a manager
0:32 and it includes a very simple cycle so this cycle basically
0:36 could be painted like this defining your strategy recruiting the team
0:43 that can execute it setting goals assisting where needed and monitoring
0:54 progress and basically this is the cycle that includes the CEOs
1:04 role as a manager and when you look at it defining
1:06 the strategy is basically the part in which you set the vector
1:10 in which your company is gonna run this is the first
1:13 thing you need to do once you define that vector the next
1:16 thing you need to do is recruit the best team they
1:19 can execute and run in this direction and build what you're
1:22 trying to build then you basically set goals these goals are
1:26 the goals that are going to make sure that the team is
1:29 running in the right direction and that everything is measurable because
1:32 if it's not measurable you can't manage it what you then do
1:36 is the CEO is your job is to continue assisting the team
1:40 as much as you can on their way so that whenever
1:43 they run into any kind of trouble or any problem they
1:45 can come to you or you can come to them and clear
1:48 the problem for them so that they continue running and then
1:50 you basically monitor progress when you finish this cycle you arrive
1:55 to a point of checking on yourself and now saying okay I'll
2:00 define my strategy now it's time to basically check it and see
2:04 that the strategy so holds and if I need to now
2:07 change the vector a little bit that's great I'll change the vector
2:10 a little bit the next thing I've looking at the team
2:12 and I'm saying now I need to verify that I still have
2:16 the best team and as we know as the company evolves
2:18 and grows and changes maybe not everybody that was great in the team
2:22 the beginning is still great as you need to verify
2:24 the team in terms of the goals you set them but now
2:29 you basically reset them to make sure that they're the right
2:32 goals and so and then you continue assisting you continue monitoring
2:36 and this cycle goes on on and on and on and if
2:39 in the past in large companies I used to think that you
2:43 need to run this cycle every quarter or so when I
2:46 think about start-up management today this is something that you need
2:49 to do almost weekly you need to constantly ask yourself do
2:52 I have the right strategy do I have the right people are
2:56 my goals pushing everybody in the right directions and vice versa
3:00 and so that's the role of the founder CEO as a manager
3:05 and that's super important right this is what you need to do
3:08 in order to make your company to run but that's not
3:10 enough actually if you just do that you're not very likely
3:13 to succeed because on top of it there is the leadership part
3:17 and the leadership part is different requires totally different set of skills
3:21 much softer skills it is less mechanic and it's much tougher
3:24 to achieve and without it it's going to be very difficult
3:27 for you to get your people to get your company to where
3:30 you want it to go and so the way I look
3:33 at it the leadership part is kind of orbiting the management part
3:38 that is basically if I need to summit to bring it down
3:41 to three things it revolves around people vision and culture and just
3:51 like we can look at this cycle for the managerial part
3:55 we have a similar cycle for the leadership part and as I
4:04 said leadership is tougher than just management it is mostly tougher
4:09 because unlike everything that you do on the management side leadership is
4:14 tough to pass on by just speaking it mostly depends on how
4:19 you behave it depends on this example that you set yourself
4:23 and if you're not going to behave based on the same
4:28 values that you want your company to be run by it's not
4:31 gonna work and that's why the beginning of any part of leadership
4:36 is behaving yourself the way you want your people to behave
4:41 and so the first thing in leadership is people and when
4:47 I talk about leading people we can talk about that for hours
4:50 but there are three things that I would like to stress
4:52 today the first one is hiring the second one is caring
4:58 and the third one is listening and when we talk about
5:04 hiring hiring is maybe the only place where in a start-up I'm
5:09 willing to sacrifice speed for results and this is because especially
5:13 the young startup the DNA of the people that you bring in is
5:17 a critical part of the culture building and if you bring
5:21 somebody that has a great CV that does all the right
5:23 things that you need but comes with a toxic DNA you're
5:27 basically not just gonna lose that person later on but you're going
5:31 to start inflicting the wrong DNA into your team which will
5:35 have a horrible effect on your company later on and so hiring
5:39 is the first thing and making sure that the people that you're
5:42 recruiting into your company have the right DNA once you bring
5:45 the right people and you need to lead them maybe
5:49 the one thing that I've found that is the most important thing
5:51 in start-up leadership and actually every
5:54 company leadership is caring this sounds
5:57 the beauty so tarik what's the what's caring connected to leadership
6:01 but the reality is that it all starts from caring when
6:04 you care for your employees they care about their job they care
6:08 about their employees they care about their colleagues and so by caring
6:11 by truly caring which is tough to fake you're creating this cycle
6:16 in which eventually your entire company will be much better
6:19 and people will care for each other and so once you recruited
6:22 the best people you care for them and that's where the magic
6:25 starts and then the third thing is listening what's the point
6:29 of recruiting the best people and letting them work if you don't
6:32 listen to them and our listening basically has two parts the first
6:35 part is simply being there you cannot listen to people if
6:40 you don't meet them enough you cannot listen to people you don't
6:43 have meetings with them you cannot listen to people if you
6:45 don't have face time with them and many times all of us
6:48 are in such a rush that all these meetings are getting
6:51 cancelled and so don't cancel them if you don't spend time
6:54 with your people they're never gonna be able to listen to them
6:57 but even then when you're with them one of the mistakes
7:00 I used to do as a CEO years ago I would go
7:04 into a meeting and say okay the here's our problem this is
7:06 what I think and guess what how easy is it
7:09 for people to then challenge what you're saying when you're the CEO
7:12 and you just say to this so people just not and you
7:15 basically lost the entire impact of everybody sharing their opinions and so
7:20 listening is not just about being with them it's also about
7:23 letting them speak and then even speak before you say what
7:26 you think and so the first part of leadership is about
7:30 people hire the right people with the right DNA care about them
7:35 to ensure that they care about their job and about the rest
7:38 of the company and listen to them by being with them
7:41 and by letting them speak and letting them say what they
7:43 think this is the core and the first part of leadership
7:47 as a CEO once we have the people in place and they're
7:52 caring and you're listening to them the next part is the vision
7:55 of the company and that basically if I need to break it
7:59 down that comes down to finding your why repeating it and verifying
8:06 that people know it let's explain that so I think you've
8:10 all know the concept of finding your companies why why do
8:14 you do the things you do and there's a founder CEO
8:17 most of us think about that why in the context of customers
8:21 right if I find my why my customers will like my products
8:24 more they will know what we're doing why we're doing it
8:26 you think about it in the context of investors if I
8:30 can express my why properly I'm gonna raise a lot of money
8:33 but the reality is that the place where your why is
8:35 the most critical is with the people that work with you
8:38 in your company and this is because working in a start-up is
8:41 really difficult many hours usually you're not getting paid that much and it's
8:46 a roller coaster emotionally and the only reason why people stay committed
8:50 is because they have a wide that they believe in and so
8:54 when you clarify and crystallizer why it's not just for the outside
8:59 world it's not just for investors it is predominantly first
9:03 and foremost for your team for your employees for your managers
9:06 they need to know and connect to your wine if you don't
9:09 know your why it's very difficult to wake up in the morning
9:12 and again and again do it whatever you need to do
9:14 because it's just emotionally tiring and so you've got to understand
9:19 your wife so crystallizer why and then you've got to repeat
9:22 it again and again and again and many people make the mistake
9:24 of thinking I just said it a month ago we had
9:28 an O hand meeting and I presented the company's wine strategy
9:31 everybody knows it it's gotta be that simple right I mean I've
9:34 showed it people are smart I recruited the best people it can't
9:38 be that they did not understand well maybe they did but it's
9:41 very difficult to remember it's very difficult to absorb things change
9:44 you as the CEO make constantly think that everybody knows everything
9:48 but not everybody knows everything and as long as people don't know
9:52 that why you're gonna have leadership issues and so repeat your why
9:56 a lot more than what you intuitively think you need
10:00 to repeat it what's the right frequency once a week not too
10:03 much once every meeting and repeating it also okay in a tough
10:06 period make sure that you repeat it enough and then once
10:11 you repeat it enough you've got a verify that people actually
10:14 know this one of my one of my favorite things to do
10:17 to CEO sometimes is that I ask them are you sure
10:19 that everybody knows their strategy
10:20 of course everybody knows the company's strategy
10:23 are you sure that everybody knows what's the why of the company
10:26 of course I just said it last week in the meeting
10:28 great can we call a bunch of people and check
10:31 and then when you call people in and you ask them what's
10:34 the company's why what's the strategy where are we heading or even
10:37 more than that what are you working on now and could
10:40 you explain to me how that relates to the why of the company
10:44 how that relates to what we're trying to achieve you're shocked
10:48 at what small percent of people can actually explain that never
10:53 let yourself get in that position because these people that can't explain
10:56 it these people that don't feel that what they do relates
11:00 to the companies why they're never gonna contribute the most they can
11:03 and they're very likely to not stay with you for a long
11:05 time so always remember crystallizer one for the team repeated as much
11:11 as you need and verify that everybody knows it and everybody
11:14 knows how what they're doing relates to that big y and big
11:17 vision and so the last part after you've got your people
11:20 and you have your vision that everybody knows is basically setting
11:24 up the right culture now of course this is the whole
11:26 topic of its own and we could talk for hours about
11:28 that but or bring up a few points around culture so
11:31 the first one is collaboration the second one is transparency the third one
11:39 is self-awareness and the fourth one is optimism and these are like
11:46 four cornerstones of what I always try to put into my companies
11:50 to make sure that we have the right culture now they're
11:53 there other lists and there's tons of other things to talk
11:55 about that but these are like four cornerstones and if you
11:58 got these four rites you're likely to have a good building block
12:01 for your culture so let's start with collaboration so collaboration basically
12:05 is all about creating an organization where people work together now clearly
12:10 that the you know the cliche is that you've got to build
12:12 an organization well one plus one equals more than two but it
12:15 really is so any an organization that is collaborative by design
12:19 where the culture the norm is that you work with others
12:23 you cooperate you always look at any problem as something that you
12:27 can contribute to that creates a much stronger organization that go
12:31 to solve problem much faster and in general be a faster
12:35 organization and so collaboration is really critical part and the way
12:39 to deal with it is that whenever you see anybody behaving against
12:43 that value of collaboration you've really got to act hard on it
12:46 because people will only believe that that is a core value
12:49 if they will see that whenever there's no collaboration you're basically coming
12:54 in and immediately telling everybody look if you're not going to collaborate
12:58 that's not going to work and so this is really critical
13:00 collaboration the second thing is transparency and so in order for you
13:05 to know what's happening in order for you to be able
13:06 to create the right culture and the right management in the company
13:09 you need to know what's happening you need to have transparency
13:12 people need to be able to share with you people need
13:15 to be able to tell you the truth they need to tell
13:16 you what they're fearing they need to tell you the problems
13:19 they need to tell you what's not working well and then
13:21 the last thing of you do despite all of these things
13:25 that I said before you've got to be up to this you've
13:26 got to be optimist because being in a start-up is so difficult
13:30 emotionally every day a new competitor arises the large companies are doing
13:34 something you know Google's releasing a product that's close to your product
13:37 you don't know what's gonna happen fundraising it's tough it
13:39 is an emotional roller coaster to work in a start-up and so
13:43 if you're not optimistic and if this optimism is not part
13:46 of the culture of the company where we believe that we
13:48 can do it we believe that our when we know that logically
13:51 many startups fail but we truly believe that we're gonna succeed if
13:55 you cannot put this into the minds and hearts of your people
13:57 it's gonna be very difficult for them to wake up every
14:00 morning and work as harder than seriously as you want them
14:03 to and so as I said there's tons more to talk about
14:06 leadership but for me the cores of leadership around these management cycles
14:11 is to handle the people hiring them caring and listening to make
14:16 sure they've got your vision your Y and that everybody knows
14:18 it and everybody constantly hears it again and again and then
14:22 to create the right culture which
14:24 includes collaboration transparency and not complacent
14:27 self-aware organization and an optimist one when I ran companies over
14:32 the years and this is also what I tell founders that I
14:34 invest in I kept asking myself almost every day am i
14:38 just managing or am I also leading am i taking my team
14:42 to where they ought to be am i leading by example
14:46 and the days where these answers were yes for a good days
14:49 and these were the days where I could see the impact
14:51 I was making as a start-up CEO and the days where several
14:54 we were knows I knew that I was slowing down my startup
14:57 and I was slowing down my team instead of helping them
14:59 and sorry try to be better the next day and so
15:02 remember to ask yourself these questions am I only managing or also
15:06 leading am i taking my team to where they oughta be
15:09 the place where maybe they won't want to go on their own
15:12 but I can take them and am I really leading by example
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