"No Deal!" Iran rejects Trump's Peace Plan, Strait of Hormuz FULLY Closed + HantaVirus Updates

0:00 What are they trying to hide from you

0:02 as it relates to the Iran war and the opening

0:05 of the Strait of Hormuz because to hear about

0:07 from President Trump and the Trump administration project freedom.

0:11 We're taking a pause right now in order to protect

0:13 the I guess sensibilities of the Iranians and Iranians saying no,

0:16 sorry, the Strait is not opening and we reject your peace plan wholeheartedly.

0:21 It's a farce.

0:22 So what is actually happening?

0:24 We're going to dive deeply into this today.

0:25 The markets are roiling as a result of it.

0:28 They were skyrocketing on the news that yeah,

0:30 look where we're close to this thing being done

0:32 and then boom once Iran responds and says sorry,

0:35 uh we reject this categorically, then the markets go crazy once again.

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1:11 Yeah, we're also Professor Robert Pape is going to be joining us here

1:13 as [clears throat] well as this seems to be spiraling out of control.

1:17 You know, he's written of course about these uh you know, the escalation trap.

1:22 How much further along this escalation ladder are we now?

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1:30 Why are members of the Trump intelligence team leaking information to the press

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3:03 Well, a short time ago, Iran said no deal.

3:06 Sorry, President Trump.

3:07 Your terms are total garbage and frankly don't make any sense.

3:11 Iran publicly rejected the latest uh US peace deal.

3:14 They will not open the Strait of Hormuz,

3:16 calling the US plan completely unrealistic.

3:21 Completely unrealistic.

3:22 But, if you listen to like Fox News

3:24 and the US president and you listen to the US media,

3:28 it seems like we were pretty close to a deal here.

3:30 The markets responded.

3:32 Everything was exploding as a result of it.

3:34 Wait a minute, was that all a lie?

3:36 Was that an exaggeration?

3:38 Project Freedom has now been shelved, according to the president.

3:41 Trump was forced to stop that after Saudi Arabia reportedly

3:45 refused to allow the US military to use its airspace,

3:48 its airbase, a key airbase in the region.

3:50 So, there's no way for President Trump to essentially implement Project Freedom.

3:56 So, game over?

3:57 Where are we on this escalation ladder right now?

4:00 Are things getting better or worse?

4:02 Professor Robert Pape is the director of the Chicago Project on Security

4:05 and Threats at the University of Chicago and the author of Escalation Trap

4:09 on Substack and he's absolutely been nailing it weekend and week out

4:15 with with his assessments and predictions on this and it's based on data.

4:19 Professor Pape joins us once again.

4:20 Great to see you.

4:21 Welcome back to the show.

4:22 Oh, thank you for having me back.

4:25 And I wish I could say next time you bring me back I'll have something wrong.

4:29 So, [laughter] why not making me feel that great.

4:34 This is a this is a tragic situation.

4:36 It really is.

4:37 So, what is your assessment of this latest back and forth?

4:39 The Iranians saying, "Sorry,

4:41 this is completely unrealistic." The President of the United States saying,

4:44 "We're calling off Project Freedom in order

4:46 for the Iranians to save face." I mean,

4:48 that's literally what what they're basically saying.

4:51 Where are we on this escalation ladder right now?

4:53 Uh where we are is we are stuck

4:56 in the trap and where we are with the negotiations

4:59 is what I've been warning about now for days on Substack, on X, and so forth.

5:04 Um the fundamental set of issues has not really changed.

5:09 That is since um almost 70 days now uh when the bombs first fell,

5:15 our military has been tactically terrific.

5:20 Uh I taught for the US Air Force.

5:22 I'm not surprised we would be tactically terrific.

5:26 Um and the fact is what you're

5:27 seeing is whether it's bombs against leadership targets,

5:31 the bombs are hitting targets, killing uh leaders,

5:34 whether it's the naval blockade, whether it's the air campaign,

5:37 the military at a tactical level is doing every single thing that we would want.

5:42 This is not a case of bad execution of tactics.

5:47 This is a case of horrible strategy.

5:49 This is a case where we are going down a road where

5:53 that tactical success is not leading to any strategic result that matters.

6:00 Now, just to pick one example, yes, we sunk Iran's navy.

6:04 You remember a month ago,

6:05 we were bragging about how much that was going to matter,

6:08 and now notice it doesn't matter at all.

6:11 And the reason it doesn't matter at all

6:13 is because Iran's growing is built on two factors.

6:18 One is geography, and the other is

6:20 really cheap technology called drones and mines.

6:24 You put those two factors together,

6:27 and you have Iran emerging as the fourth center of world power because

6:32 those two factors are more than sufficient to tighten the grip of Hormuz.

6:39 And now, what you're seeing is it's more than sufficient

6:42 for Iran's power to grow even during the naval blockade.

6:47 So, what happened with Operation Freedom wasn't just

6:50 that this failed and it got canceled right away.

6:53 It's that when Iran struck target near the UAE's key pipeline,

7:00 they had a pipeline that was bypassing Hormuz with nearly 2

7:05 million barrels of oil a day that was actually getting getting out.

7:09 Once Iran did that, that sent a clear message

7:13 to everybody in the Gulf that Iran has more than

7:18 enough technology and geographic power in order to hurt them

7:24 even more than they've been hurted they've been hurt already.

7:28 So, this is why you see the Gulf states themselves say, "We're not playing.

7:33 We're not getting involved with this because all it's doing is hurting them.

7:38 It's not protecting their security." Another way to put it is,

7:42 we are losing more power day by day, including this week.

7:47 And that is really just such a tragic situation,

7:51 but it's not changing because President Trump is he doesn't have that military

7:58 option to just reach to that's going to break the back of Iran,

8:03 and suddenly we're going to get this lap of good benefits,

8:08 and it's all going to have been worthwhile.

8:10 I'm really sorry to say, this this trajectory can go on for months.

8:15 And I know nobody wants to hear that, but sometimes

8:19 you just got to hear the bad news,

8:21 which is this is going to this is unfortunately going to go on for for months.

8:27 You might see not just $5 gas, $6 gas here.

8:31 In Chicago, we're already at 520 where I fill up.

8:34 I'm expecting this to hit $6 by the end of May.

8:38 Jeez.

8:38 You know, some military experts have said that they expect the war,

8:43 the actual combat portion, to heat back up,

8:47 which would only make this worse because United States

8:50 doesn't have an easy win from so far away.

8:53 We mentioned earlier that Saudi Arabia now is saying no landing on our airspace.

8:57 That was a key ally that we have alienated.

9:02 So I you know, I would like to ask you about

9:05 what would happen if there is a renewal of hot battle,

9:09 and I just push you a tiny bit because the tactically terrific part,

9:14 you know, obviously not the school of girls.

9:16 Can we just pull that out?

9:19 no, absolutely.

9:20 I'm sorry.

9:20 I should have definitely, and in fact,

9:22 that's going to come back to haunt us with Oh my good You know,

9:25 I'm pretty Thank you very much for giving

9:28 me that chance to qualify what I meant.

9:30 So no.

9:31 I just I think that as Americans we should not forget it.

9:34 It shouldn't be I I don't mean you.

9:37 the best we can, we're making mistakes,

9:39 and those mistakes are a bad are enough to kill Americans down the road.

9:44 So, this isn't just an oops here.

9:46 This is that will be haunting us as there are I hope not,

9:52 but future attacks against Americans.

9:55 So, let me say two things about the point about stepping up.

9:58 Why is it that we would step up?

10:00 There's an assumption,

10:01 and this is one of the big things when I teach for the US Air Force,

10:05 when I teach at the University of Chicago,

10:07 and this is an assumption by smart people.

10:09 This is not a dumb person's assumption.

10:12 This is an assumption by generals.

10:13 This is not an assumption just by civilians,

10:16 which is punishment if we're not a nice guy, and we put our morals aside,

10:22 once we hurt the enemy enough,

10:25 we kill enough civilians, we make them unemployed,

10:28 what we're going to do is they will bring them to their knees here.

10:33 And that is what you are seeing with the blockade.

10:37 The idea is we're going to crush their economy,

10:40 and that's going to bring them to their knees.

10:42 Or now, if we go after the electric power,

10:44 that's going to hurt them more quickly,

10:47 cause the punishment to happen more rapidly.

10:49 And here's the bottom line,

10:51 which is hard in just a short period of time to get across to your audience,

10:55 but punishment almost never works.

10:58 And it can be extreme.

11:00 In World War II, during I'll just pick

11:02 the most damaging punishment campaign with conventional weapons that ever

11:06 happened was when the United States turned loose our B-29s

11:11 on Japanese cities before we dropped the atomic bombs.

11:15 Starting in March 1945 until the end of July, we picked out 58 cities in Japan,

11:21 and we bombed them one after one after one,

11:25 and we killed 700,000 Japanese civilians.

11:29 This did not budge Japan 1 in and there's many

11:34 cases of this and so the problem here is this basic

11:38 assumption that people think and it's a basic assumption I

11:42 know because I've been teaching smart people for 30 years

11:46 they need to see the evidence up close and personal

11:49 that's what's in my books that's what's in the lectures

11:53 I give to the military that's what I'm showing them

11:56 I'm taking them through this in detail and quite honestly they

12:02 change their mind once they see enough cases they realize

12:05 oh it's not just about we're not nice it really

12:09 does stiffen the back of the enemy because what it

12:13 does is it makes them want to fight back and kill

12:17 us even more and that's why that's not going

12:20 to work now why do we go to that we go

12:22 to that because people like President Trump he's a real

12:26 estate guy he has no real experience in military history he's

12:30 never really sat down and had a even a 20

12:33 minute version of how punishment has really failed in in history

12:38 to do this and so this is we we

12:41 are run by civilians we have civilian control we never

12:43 want to give that up but this is this is

12:47 how you end up going down these roads here and unfortunately

12:52 if we do launch that bombing campaign what you can

12:55 expect is the lashing back here they're going to come

13:00 at us eye for an eye or maybe two eyes

13:03 for an eye and they're going to hit the Gulf

13:06 infrastructure really hard and that may that may play out

13:11 over weeks and when that happens then we're not talking about

13:15 $6 gas anymore in Chicago we're going to be talking

13:18 about eight or nine dollars gas this is really going

13:21 to have that big of a consequence because you're when you

13:24 have the infrastructure of anything damage It's like in your house,

13:29 um you can have um a little tiny weak roof,

13:32 but have you ever had the water running

13:35 in your basement where there's holes in your basement?

13:38 Now you're talking not about a $3,000 weak uh roof repair,

13:43 you're talking about a 30, 40, $50,000 basement repair.

13:49 That's the difference here when we start taking down

13:52 the infrastructure in of oil and the gas and the fertilizer,

13:57 um not just simply uh threatening ships.

14:00 And that's where we're headed.

14:01 Couple of uh news items that have just kind

14:03 of moved over the past few minutes, Professor Pape.

14:05 One, I want to get your take on this, a new um drone attack

14:09 and there's been reports of an explosions

14:11 on uh Qeshm Island from on the Iranian side.

14:14 Iranian state media reporting explosions.

14:17 Said um they were caused by air defenses intercepting several drone attacks.

14:22 Um so where is that coming from?

14:24 The United States, Israel?

14:25 And then we also just got word from senior uh

14:29 Iranian officials just a short time ago even before we

14:32 came on the air that says they're not going

14:33 to consider ending this war uh under two under two conditions.

14:37 First, all compensation for all damages and the second,

14:42 the United States must withdraw from the Gulf.

14:44 So to your point, we're sort of trapped.

14:47 just on Times of London radio a few hours ago saying you

14:50 were going to start to see the Iranians will likely pull out.

14:53 They want the withdrawal of all forces here, which I haven't heard much about.

14:57 So I'm I'm sorry to say that it's not just the generalities,

15:01 it's even the details are actually fully Well,

15:04 not fully, but but they're quite predictable in this uh in this situation.

15:09 Now what would that drone attack be?

15:11 Of course, you just laid out the possibilities,

15:13 but we do need to recall that um we've

15:16 been talking for a long time about seizing certain islands,

15:20 either Kharg or right near Hormuz.

15:22 That island is one of the ones right near uh Hormuz.

15:26 We have all the forces there, those 10,000 Marines, the special forces.

15:30 They are there.

15:31 They're on a hair trigger,

15:33 and President Trump has been warning here in his post now

15:36 for actually several days that he's going to move right away.

15:41 So, I can't say for sure this is the beginning

15:44 of an actual effort to take one of those islands,

15:47 but I would hardly be surprised that that would

15:50 be where this White House would go.

15:53 And it's It is the escalation trap.

15:56 It's What Iran has just done is humiliated yet again President

16:03 Trump who's who's been bending over backwards begging for any deal whatsoever.

16:09 And they're not giving them What you just

16:12 showed is they're not even giving a hint

16:14 of a fig leaf here because what they want

16:17 to do is they want to wreck his presidency.

16:20 The goal here is I believe by Iran

16:22 becoming more and more revealed by their behavior.

16:25 They don't want to talk to us face-to-face

16:27 cuz that would give us too much prestige.

16:30 They're in the driver's seat at every step,

16:33 and the only way you're going to knock them off the driver's seat is with force,

16:37 but even then I'm telling you that's probably not going to work.

16:42 But what that doesn't mean we're not going to try it.

16:45 And we're trying it for the reasons I just said.

16:48 Unfortunately, we're you know,

16:51 I hate to be so blunt cuz I I'm I'm not trying to be political here,

16:54 but I mean the bottom line is I I teach people coming

16:57 in all the time who are real estate agents and they're they're you know,

17:01 pilots and so forth,

17:02 and they think right away coming in and these are folks with 120, 140 IQs.

17:07 These are not dumb people.

17:09 And they think right away that oh,

17:11 the only thing holding us back say from winning

17:13 in Vietnam is we didn't hit them hard enough.

17:16 If we had just killed more than 900,000, you know, ratcheted up,

17:21 we would have And once they see the real data,

17:24 and I take them through it, they Not all of them,

17:27 but most of them really come out much more sober and realize, "Oh,

17:31 this is just not going to work." Professor Robert Pape,

17:36 got to follow his incredible work on his Substack.

17:38 He has been absolutely I mean, follow him on X,

17:40 but read his great Substack because he's been nailing it left and right.

17:44 Correct, correct, correct, correct.

17:46 Like you said, hope you'll come back when you're wrong.

17:48 And uh Yeah, please.

17:50 Yeah, I'm I'm there.

17:51 I'm there.

17:53 [laughter]

17:53 Maybe the professor's Maybe the professor's predictions are causing it.

17:56 Maybe it's causing it.

17:57 Maybe he should just predict the other way.

17:59 Yeah.

18:00 happen that way.

18:00 Exactly.

18:01 I've tried.

18:02 If you recall, I don't know if you recall, but earlier in the war,

18:05 I was trying to give all these off-ramps to President Trump.

18:08 Here So so it's now being lost, of course, because we've moved past that.

18:13 But believe me, one of the reasons I've been

18:14 on News I've been on Newsmax almost Not every day,

18:17 but my goodness gracious, how much more can I go on?

18:20 I'm trying to talk directly here to all sides, really.

18:25 But I've tried to give a lot of it You say predictions or advice.

18:29 That was there.

18:30 Had Had we just decided after the first few days.

18:33 So President Trump said, "This was only going to be on Feb.

18:36 28th in the opening When he's asked it's going to be a couple days.

18:40 We've only got a couple days.

18:41 I've got all these off-ramps." I was trying to give him those ideas.

18:45 Take the off-ramp then.

18:46 GO NOW.

18:48 YEAH.

18:49 YEAH.

18:49 Didn't happen.

18:50 And it didn't happen.

18:50 And when you're controlled by the Israeli intelligence operation,

18:53 it's not going to happen.

18:55 Uh Professor Pape, great to see you.

18:56 Thank you.

18:57 actually tell if it's his predictions or not.

18:59 So you're like Schrödinger's cat.

19:01 We have to put you in a box.

19:03 Well, I'm Yeah, I'm so I'm sorry to say it's What's happening here

19:06 is that it's not the Pape predictions that are that are driving it.

19:10 It's the reality of the limits of punishment and the fact

19:14 that when a state has great power as Iran does now,

19:19 the idea they're just going to give it up because President Trump's

19:22 going to bamboozle them with some charisma or some tweet or so forth.

19:28 This is not This is great power politics of the first order.

19:33 And when President Trump gets to if if he even goes to meet with President Xi,

19:37 you know, he always said in the campaign that he could stand up to President Xi.

19:41 Well, he's about to find out what that looks like because Xi has got now a lot

19:46 of cards here to play with and our we

19:50 are the ones who are coming on bended knee.

19:52 And this is just not a good situation here.

19:55 I'm not I'm not sure President Trump should even go.

19:58 I mean, it's you know, it's just really It's hard to believe this is

20:02 going to work out in a positive way.

20:04 You never say never.

20:06 I understand he's gotten reelected in a miracle.

20:09 I really I've been to his rallies.

20:11 I really understand so much about how you know, this is been a miracle here,

20:17 but the bottom line is that this isn't

20:20 just getting reelected here in a democracy.

20:23 We're up against great power politics and what

20:25 you're seeing is Iran has got us and they're

20:28 not going to let that grip up because

20:30 they're suddenly bored or they don't like their power.

20:35 And look at them They got Kuwait now saying, "Oh my god,

20:37 we can't get it." Iran's looking at that and they're saying,

20:41 you know, this is mana from heaven for them

20:43 cuz they want to get American forces out.

20:46 Well, we got a base in Kuwait.

20:48 Now Now you see there if this is the leverage that Iran is using.

20:53 Yes.

20:54 Well, thank you again for that.

20:56 It's always a pleasure to read your work

20:59 and to have you explain it to us in person.

21:00 Please come back.

21:02 Okay, thank you very much.

21:03 Bye-bye.

21:03 All right.

21:04 Coming up, we're going to talk about

21:05 intelligence failures inside of the Trump administration.

21:08 Why this continues to be such a fallout and like Professor Pape just said,

21:12 it feels very much like we're playing a child's game,

21:16 you know, at on a in an adult world right now.

21:20 You can't just win this with media savvy.

21:23 Well, we'll explain in why

21:25 these intelligence this intelligence coup is unfolding

21:27 right now inside the administration and when you have members of the Trump

21:31 administration who are patriotic Americans who are now trying to get

21:34 information out to all of us about what's actually happening in Iran.

21:38 The lies that of course are being told by the Israeli intelligence service

21:42 to the United States and President Trump is going along with all of this.

21:46 We're going to talk about that when we come back from this quick break.

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23:03 Trump's strategy is not telling you his strategy.

23:06 A humongous shift is I That That gives him

23:09 the uh benefit of the doubt of having a strategy,

23:12 which we're just not sure is true.

23:15 Uh So, Trump can be drawn into everything just like Fauci and COVID.

23:20 What does that mean?

23:21 Like Fauci COVID.

23:23 Like he can like with Operation Warp Speed.

23:25 was drawn into that.

23:27 Yeah, of course.

23:27 Good point.

23:28 Yes, he was.

23:29 He wasn't he?

23:30 All right.

23:31 Well, um and uh Okay, we all looking good guys on the team here?

23:35 Have everything lining up good?

23:37 Yeah, Philip?

23:38 I want to ask you a question.

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23:55 Uh Fauci crouchy.

23:57 Thank you for that.

23:58 Uh 2 minutes.

23:59 Okay.

24:00 Um All right, well, let's just dive into it and get to it here.

24:03 So, so we don't waste any time.

24:06 Um Well, the American people were told that reports of major Sorry,

24:10 let me do this again.

24:12 What's going on here?

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24:21 Okay.

24:22 All right.

24:23 Well, Americans better buckle up for some hard truths.

24:25 We can exclusively report here on Redacted that something

24:28 very big is happening inside of President Trump's intelligence operation.

24:32 And if you care about the national security of the United States,

24:35 then this should alarm you.

24:37 Sources are telling Redacted that there are American

24:40 intelligence professionals inside this administration who are furious.

24:45 They believe the American people are being lied

24:47 to about what's really happening in the war with Iran.

24:49 They believe the official story coming out of the White

24:52 House does not match the actual intelligence at all.

24:55 And they believe Trump's Iran policy has been hijacked

24:59 not by America first national security officials not by silver

25:02 military planners not even by the CIA or the DIA

25:07 but by the Israeli government and its intelligence apparatus.

25:10 In other words Trump's intelligence operation is

25:13 truly being run out of Tel Aviv.

25:16 And now those US officials are leaking

25:18 information to the media including the Washington

25:21 Post in order to get these stories out about what's really happening in Iran.

25:25 I'm going to show you examples of that here in a minute

25:28 but first we've all been spoon-fed lies about this war.

25:32 The mainstream media is feeding you fake stories

25:34 about what's really happening in Iran what's happening

25:37 in the Gulf states like this laughable gem

25:41 over the last 24 hours from Jesse Watters watch.

25:45 President says based on the request of Pakistan and other countries we

25:48 have mutually agreed that while the blockade will remain in full force

25:52 and effect project freedom will be paused for a short period of time

25:57 to see whether or not the agreement can be finalized and signed.

26:02 We suspect the president is letting the Iranians save face.

26:07 The enemy just yesterday said they controlled the straight

26:10 that was obviously a lie and watching the Americans escort ship

26:14 after ship out of the Gulf and them not being

26:18 able to do anything about that was going to be humiliating.

26:22 Not only were they going to lose whatever military

26:25 prestige they had left in the region their negotiators

26:28 weren't going to be able to fight

26:29 for their position after they lost their last bargaining chip.

26:35 The commander-in-chief must believe that the Iranians

26:37 are serious about surrendering if

26:40 he's going to pause project freedom for the sake of a deal.

26:44 Because you could also continue project freedom during the negotiations.

26:49 You know you You want to get these foreign ships moving.

26:52 The president must know what he's doing.

26:55 And we're about to find out how insane in the brain the regime really is.

27:00 I wonder what it feels like to have your head that far up your ass.

27:03 I mean and up the up the ass

27:05 of the president and regurgitating Marco Rubio talking points.

27:09 Okay.

27:10 So right Jesse right.

27:12 So Trump is losing on purpose because he

27:15 wants the enemy to feel good about itself.

27:18 That's so nice.

27:19 That's why project freedom has been put on hold.

27:22 The Zionists pumping these lies out

27:24 to the American people think that you are stupid.

27:26 The truth cannot be revealed by the Israeli run run White House.

27:31 Trump watches Fox News nonstop.

27:33 So the information loop is happening in real time.

27:36 One of his favored cabinet folks begs to go on Fox News

27:40 does an interview pushes propaganda fed to them by the Israeli intelligence.

27:44 Trump watches it then on Fox News.

27:47 And the circle repeats itself.

27:49 Megyn Kelly recently summed it up summed up this loop perfectly.

27:52 Watch.

27:53 I've spoken to many people at Fox

27:56 who've told me that administration figures will come

27:59 to them saying please put me on because

28:01 I have something the president has to hear.

28:04 And also if their fortunes are dwindling,

28:07 they want a hit like on Fox and Friends

28:09 for example because they want to show I'm on TV.

28:12 See I'm relevant.

28:13 I'm making your points.

28:15 They know the shows he watches and they try very hard to get on them.

28:19 But look we know that the case was made

28:21 because we know that Tucker Carlson got in front

28:22 of him three times in the month leading up

28:24 to this war and you know just he wasn't persuaded.

28:27 So but there were just so many other voices.

28:29 It was nine to one you know that he was listening to pushing him into it.

28:33 Not to take agency away from the president at all but I

28:35 do think a full assessment we know Trump made the call.

28:38 That's not a mystery but who pushed him

28:41 into it who made these representations also matters.

28:44 So So, is what we're watching unfold in real time.

28:47 Now, you have brave patriots inside Trump's

28:50 intelligence team at ODNI revealing the truth.

28:53 And the leaks are starting to tell a very different story

28:55 from the one that the Trump administration

28:57 has been selling to the American people.

28:58 For weeks, President Trump and his team have told us that Iran is being crushed,

29:03 that Iran's missile program has been

29:04 obliterated or decimated, to use their words.

29:08 Jesse Waters and his types have been telling you that the US

29:10 blockade of the Strait of Hormuz is is breaking Tehran economically,

29:15 that the US military assets in the region are secure,

29:18 nothing to see here, and that it's all going going according to plan.

29:23 But now, look at what leaks are coming out this morning.

29:27 The Washington Post is now reporting that a confidential CIA

29:30 assessment delivered to the administration policymakers says Iran can survive

29:34 Trump's naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz for at least

29:37 3 to 4 months before facing more severe economic hardship.

29:42 That directly undercuts what the White House narrative is,

29:45 that Iran is on the verge of collapse, or that they've already collapsed.

29:49 So, the Israeli intelligence team running

29:51 the White House messaging is lying to you, and they're lying to President Trump,

29:54 selling him falsehoods about Iran's ability to control the Strait of Hormuz.

29:58 Here's the Daily Mail.

30:00 Another leak from the patriots in Trump's

30:01 ODNI reports that despite what you've been hearing,

30:04 Iran still retains 75% of its mobile launchers,

30:07 70% of its pre-war missile stockpiles, not 18% as they're telling us.

30:15 And they're not mostly decimated.

30:17 70%.

30:19 And according to these folks inside Trump's intel team,

30:22 they've even reopened much of the underground tunnels and missile production.

30:27 So, we have to ask ourselves,

30:28 why is that information only reaching the American people through leaks?

30:32 Why are we learning from like anonymous intelligence officials that Iran's

30:35 underground storage facilities have largely been recovered or even reopened?

30:40 Why are we learning that Iran has repaired some damaged missiles,

30:43 even assembled new ones?

30:46 They've been producing missiles during this time period?

30:50 I thought they were decimated.

30:52 This is the intelligence problem Trump has on his hands right now.

30:54 And since Trump only watches Fox News

30:57 and gets his information from Israeli intelligence, how is he being informed?

31:01 So, Tulsi Gabbard is supposed to be

31:03 there every morning providing the intel assessment, right?

31:06 Is that still happening?

31:07 Has she been pushed out?

31:09 Is he seeing this truthful info or is it being kept from him?

31:14 I know Megan Kelly's giving him, you know,

31:16 credit saying he he has agency here, but does he?

31:20 Either he's not being told the truth or he knows the truth

31:23 and is allowing the public narrative to continue anyway to save face.

31:27 But it gets worse cuz the Washington Post this week also,

31:31 thanks to these leakers inside ODNI,

31:34 published satellite imagery analysis showing that Iranian

31:37 strikes damaged or destroyed at least 228 structures,

31:40 pieces of military equipment at US military sites across the Middle East.

31:44 That includes barracks, hangers, fuel depots,

31:46 aircraft, radar, communication systems, air defense equipment.

31:51 We talked to Colonel Macgregor yesterday.

31:53 He says uninhabitable most of these places.

31:57 Probably never to be used again.

31:59 Now, the post says that level of destruction is

32:02 far larger than what the US government has publicly acknowledged.

32:04 Think about that.

32:05 The American people were told the reports of major US losses were fake news.

32:09 Exaggerations, propaganda.

32:12 Same kind of propaganda that Israel sells to its own people.

32:15 The Iron Dome stopped all the missiles.

32:18 Uh no, it didn't.

32:20 The satellite imagery shows that US facilities were hit and destroyed.

32:23 It shows that Iran's targeting was more precise than officials wanted to admit.

32:26 It also shows that American bases across the region may be far

32:29 more vulnerable than the Pentagon has been willing to say out loud.

32:33 And this is exactly why intelligence sources appear to be

32:35 going outside normal channels right now trying to leak this info

32:38 to the American people because sources are telling redacted that they

32:42 believe the war is being run through a foreign intelligence apparatus.

32:47 And this brings us to Joe Kent.

32:49 Kent was the head of the National Counterterrorism Center.

32:52 He was close to Tulsi Gabbard.

32:54 He was a Trump supporter.

32:55 He was not some left-wing resistance nut job.

32:59 And he resigned over the Iran war.

33:02 In his resignation letter, Kent said he could not support the war.

33:04 He said Iran posed no imminent threat to the US

33:07 and that was the assessment of the intelligence agencies.

33:10 And he said the US went to war because

33:12 of pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby.

33:16 So, the Washington Post reported

33:18 that Kent accused high-ranking officials and influential

33:21 media figures of pushing misinformation about a swift path to victory.

33:25 It was going to be 4 days in order to sell the American people on this war.

33:29 It didn't work.

33:30 The American people hate this war.

33:32 So, I don't know what selling they were really be doing anyway.

33:36 And then Kent went even further in an interview with Tucker Carlson.

33:39 Kent said that senior officials who had doubts about the strikes

33:41 were not allowed to share those concerns with President Trump.

33:47 He said that Israeli officials were providing information

33:49 that US officials could not confirm through intelligence channels.

33:52 That's shocking.

33:52 Meaning our own CIA didn't trust what the Israelis were selling.

33:57 And notice something else here.

33:58 Where the hell is Tulsi Gabbard?

34:00 Tulsi Gabbard is the Director of National Intelligence.

34:03 She's supposed to be the person overseeing the intelligence community,

34:05 advising the president on national security,

34:07 but since this war began, you don't see her doing Fox News hits.

34:11 She's not popping up on Fox News so that she can sell anything to the president.

34:15 Not being even allowed to do those hits.

34:18 And that tells you something.

34:19 And here's something else.

34:21 The John Brennan investigation.

34:22 We were told for months that accountability

34:24 was coming and indictment was coming.

34:26 We were told the former CIA director was under serious

34:29 scrutiny whether he lied to Congress and then also I mean,

34:33 criminal, really demonic stuff that they were apparently uncovering.

34:37 And then suddenly the lead prosecutor was no longer on the case.

34:41 Subpoenas withdrawn, replaced with like voluntary interview requests.

34:44 CBS News Barry Weiss at CBS News reported the lead prosecutor overseeing

34:51 a criminal investigation was no longer assigned to the case, done, gone.

34:54 So, John Brennan now has a cushy consulting gig.

34:57 Piers as a contributor on MSNBC.

34:59 So, all good.

35:00 Nothing to see here.

35:02 And former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter is saying the quiet

35:04 part out loud in a recent interview with Glenn Greenwald.

35:07 He said that US policy towards Iran is not being written by the CIA,

35:11 not by the DIA, but by the policy circles aligned with Israel.

35:16 So, former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter

35:19 joins us now to dissect all of this.

35:22 Scott, great to see you.

35:23 Welcome back to the show.

35:25 Thanks for having me.

35:26 So, you when you hear these leaks coming

35:28 out of the Washington Post and other media right

35:31 now from sources at ODNI and others trying

35:35 to get this information out to the American people,

35:37 what does that tell you about the people that are surrounding Trump

35:40 right now who are providing him with intelligence assessments of the Iran war?

35:46 Well, you know, Washington DC is always leaked.

35:48 Um I had my first experience of that was

35:51 in the late 1980s um with the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty,

35:56 and we saw there were elements inside the United States Congress who had

36:01 allies in the US intelligence community who didn't want this treaty to work.

36:05 And so, they would leak misleading intelligence uh uh to you know

36:11 the the the Washington Times that would publish it on the front page,

36:14 and suddenly became a talking point.

36:16 So, we we've seen leaks used for a number of reasons.

36:19 Just because something's leaked doesn't mean it's right.

36:21 It means that uh there are interested parties within the United

36:25 States government who take umbrage at uh the official line.

36:30 So, this isn't new.

36:31 The the the leaking of Washington D.C.

36:33 has been leaking like a sieve forever.

36:36 But, what it tells us about the Trump

36:37 administration is that there is pushback from within

36:43 the system to the narrative that's being promulgated

36:46 by the White House and the people surrounding them.

36:50 Then, what makes this interesting is

36:53 that the facts tend to align with the leakers, not the policy makers.

36:58 Sometimes, it's the opposite case as was with the INF

37:01 treaty where the leaked information was factually incorrect.

37:06 They leaked it not not to tell the truth,

37:08 but to create perceptions because perceptions create their own realities.

37:12 Here, we have the White House in the business of manufacturing perceptions,

37:17 and the reality is being suppressed, and we have people seeking to release

37:21 fact-based evidence that contradicts the narrative.

37:25 Um I I'd always like to believe that our policy aligns with truth.

37:31 And, what we see here is that it doesn't.

37:33 We have a White House that's been lying to the American people,

37:37 a White House that's been lying to itself.

37:39 I mean, just listen to what Megyn Kelly said.

37:41 I mean, you I know you did cuz you you you spoke about it,

37:44 but just for a second, understand the dysfunction.

37:48 You're somebody who um was brought into your position to advise the president.

37:55 You were picked for that purpose.

37:57 But, because this president operates in such a tight

38:00 circle of sycophants who exist only to appease his narcissism,

38:06 you can't get access to the person you're supposed to advise.

38:10 So, you have to go to a non-governmental entity, you know,

38:14 a mainstream media outlet, Fox News, um in order to send a message.

38:19 I mean, this is dysfunction at its at its worst.

38:22 This is dangerous dysfunction.

38:24 This is the kind of stuff

38:25 that should prompt immediate congressional investigations.

38:29 Um but instead and and it also should prompt the outrage of the American people.

38:34 Um we went to war.

38:36 And I know the president is playing stupid, you know, games.

38:39 It was a skirmish.

38:40 It was a No, this was a war.

38:41 This is one of the the most serious

38:44 strategic air campaigns launched since Operation Desert Storm.

38:48 Um this is a big deal.

38:51 Tens of billions of dollars of American taxpayer money was expended,

38:55 perhaps over a hundred billion dollars of damage has

38:58 been done to um American assets in the region.

39:02 And um you know, the this president treats

39:06 it as if it's some sort of parlor game.

39:07 This is insanity uh personified.

39:10 When you hear the assessments from these leakers inside the administration

39:14 are trying to get this information out about like the military,

39:16 the US military bases destroyed,

39:19 Iran's ability to with- withstand months of Hormuz closure pressure,

39:25 uh their stockpiles of missiles, etc.

39:28 Do those leaks sound accurate to you based on your assessments?

39:35 First of all, I'm always a little bit uh reticent

39:38 to talk about battle damage assessment because um I'm an American.

39:42 And although I'm not uh in favor of this war,

39:45 uh the last thing I want to do is give somebody who's firing missiles

39:48 at American service members an indication

39:50 of how successful those uh those strikes are.

39:53 So, I'm always a little hesitant to talk about battle battle damage assessment,

39:57 but I'll take the Washington Post at its word.

39:59 I will also say this about the um the the the assessments

40:03 coming out from the US intelligence community about uh you know,

40:06 surviving percentages of missiles, etc.

40:09 I think that these are inaccurate numbers.

40:12 Um uh I think that they uh underplay uh actually

40:17 the survival rate of the um of the Iranian missiles.

40:22 You know, we in the because they're derived from you know,

40:24 reporting that that includes you know,

40:28 battle damage assessments from the people launching the strikes.

40:32 The president is straight up lying.

40:33 So when he says 18 percent is a manufactured number.

40:35 We know that.

40:37 But the US intelligence community always you know,

40:42 leans towards what the the operators say.

40:46 And I just go back I I I can

40:47 speak on personal experience here during the Gulf War.

40:51 Um if we say we destroyed you know, if there's 70% left there's 90% left.

40:57 If you know, it's it's that's the case cuz

40:59 we clearly don't know what the Iranians are capable of.

41:03 We don't know what they've done.

41:04 The same thing with we you know, this the estimates about you know,

41:09 three to four months worth of you know, sustainability on the energy side.

41:13 I I'd say that's probably three to four years

41:16 because we don't know the truth about Iran's economy.

41:20 There's a this is conventional analysis

41:22 done without any incorporation of you know,

41:26 the extensive gray markets that exist, the black markets.

41:30 I wonder if they calculated accurately how much oil is consumed domestically

41:34 by the Iranians that doesn't need to go into storage or what's

41:38 going on with the amount of oil that's being shipped across the Pakistani

41:42 border by trucks now from all accounts it is literally you know,

41:48 the entire border has been turned into a massive highway.

41:51 So I would say that the intelligence community

41:54 doesn't have as clear picture about Iran you know,

41:57 as some people want to give them credit for.

41:59 I give them credit for you know,

42:00 putting out assessment that isn't spun politically.

42:04 But I would say that the CIA doesn't insight into the reality

42:08 of Iran both in terms of their military and their economy.

42:13 So, Scott, I'll get your assessment and where you think things are heading.

42:16 We've been hearing reports from I think Larry Johnson and others believe

42:21 that new round of military action is

42:24 imminent maybe within 48 hours against Iran.

42:29 What do What do you What do you What do you hearing?

42:31 What do you think?

42:34 Well, I'm not as plugged in as Larry is so I can't say I'm hearing anything.

42:38 This is just purely assessment on my part.

42:41 But it's an assessment based upon reality.

42:45 And and there's there in lies the problem.

42:47 I think we need to acknowledge up front

42:48 that we're dealing with a president who is clinically insane.

42:51 The man is you know suffering from narcissistic

42:53 personality disorder of the most malignant nature.

42:56 It makes him anti-social.

42:57 If he lived in the state of New York,

42:59 he could be involuntarily confined because he represents a danger to society.

43:04 But he's the president of the United

43:04 States with his finger on the nuclear trigger.

43:08 You know, and I'm being serious here.

43:09 I'm not I'm not being facetious at all.

43:11 This is a man whose social

43:13 postings are clearly indicative of mental instability.

43:20 And so that means we don't know what is going to happen.

43:23 But what I can say is that the people surrounding the president

43:26 know exactly what would happen if we resumed attacks against Iran.

43:30 We can't beat the Iranians.

43:32 We proved that with 39 days

43:34 of incessant bombardment that accomplished literally nothing.

43:38 And we now know that the Iranians retain capacity to strike back.

43:44 The military knows that it can't accomplish any mission given to it

43:47 to you know eradicate in short

43:50 order Iran's ability to launch ballistic missiles.

43:52 We had 39 days to do that.

43:54 We didn't do that.

43:55 The Iranians only got stronger.

43:57 Now the Iranians are locked and loaded.

44:00 We know that they accurately they can

44:02 accurately strike targets that they aim at.

44:05 And the Iranians have made it clear that if there's renewed action against them,

44:08 the targets their energy infrastructure,

44:10 that they will eradicate the energy infrastructure of the Gulf Arab states.

44:14 That means that Kuwait will no longer produce energy,

44:16 Qatar will no longer produce energy, Bahrain will no longer produce energy,

44:20 and the United Arab Emirates will no longer produce energy,

44:22 and Saudi Arabia will no longer produce energy.

44:25 That's it for the global economy.

44:27 Game, set, match, shut it down, it's all over.

44:30 Um, you know, even though it's 22% when you

44:33 remove 22% as precipitously as it's being removed right now,

44:38 um, it will cause a collapse, a total collapse.

44:40 So, a building structure loses 22% of its,

44:43 uh, of its, you know, load-bearing capability collapses.

44:47 You can say, "Well, there's, you know,

44:49 78% remaining or 88% No, it doesn't matter.

44:54 When you remove that much of this fast without any shoring taking place,

44:58 the global economy collapses.

45:00 And this includes the American economy, and people,

45:03 I believe, are telling the president that, um,

45:06 you will be committing political suicide, that there is no recovery from this.

45:10 So, I believe that what's going on is a lot of posturing right now,

45:13 that this president is desperate for an off-ramp,

45:16 and, uh, the the the militant rhetoric that we're

45:20 hearing is simply flexing of muscles that no longer exist.

45:24 Uh, now, I could be proven wrong, as I said,

45:26 this man is clinically insane, and clearly the people,

45:29 uh, surrounding him are sycophants, uh,

45:31 whose job is to, you know, stroke his ego, um, not to tell him the truth,

45:36 but I think this president is politically savvy enough, and there's enough, um,

45:41 you know, the narcissist wants his legacy to survive,

45:45 and he's watching his legacy go down in flames right now.

45:48 And he recognizes that he needs to stop the damage, uh,

45:52 and pray for some sort of policy-based

45:54 miracle this summer that can reverse the, uh,

45:58 the poll, um, when it comes to, you know,

46:00 the support for his his policies, which is plummeting.

46:04 So, I personally believe that there isn't going

46:06 to be a resumption of military action against Iran

46:09 by the United States because to do so

46:11 would be the kiss of death for this president.

46:14 Mhm.

46:15 Interesting.

46:16 We just saw attacks on Qeshm Island,

46:17 some drone attacks that were intercepted by Iranian air defenses.

46:22 That's reporting just a few minutes ago.

46:24 Likely Israeli, I would imagine to to your point.

46:28 Which final question, Scott, then on take that Qeshm point, but also, you know,

46:33 is Trump's intelligence apparatus really just being

46:36 run basically out of Tel Aviv right now?

46:39 Yeah, you know, we we we've seen this in a lot of areas,

46:45 especially in the Middle East, especially pertaining to Iran.

46:49 You know, the CIA doesn't have a good track record.

46:51 We we know in the 1980s Steve Richter,

46:54 who is who ran the Near East directorate, you know,

46:58 through incompetence sacrificed it and, you know,

47:01 the the totality of America's human intelligence network in Iran.

47:05 We painstakingly have sought to rebuild it.

47:08 We sacrificed it about six years

47:11 ago when a Gmail-based communications capability

47:16 was was compromised and again everybody

47:20 communicating [clears throat] got arrested and killed.

47:23 And we attempted to reconstitute it again today.

47:26 We don't have a human intelligence capability.

47:28 We have totally farmed out our human intelligence in Iran to Israel.

47:35 Which, you know, which means now that when

47:38 whenever somebody's putting together a um you know,

47:41 an intelligence assessment to derive from all sources, you know,

47:46 you can sit there and say I have I'm looking at this photograph.

47:49 This is my assessment.

47:50 You know, photographic intelligence gives you a snapshot.

47:54 You can look at it over a sustained

47:55 period of time and derive some sort of insight, but at the end of the day,

47:59 if I'm sitting here telling you what I see based upon several snapshots in time,

48:03 and somebody else says,

48:04 "Yeah, but I got a human source close

48:06 to so-and-so inside Iran." Everybody likes the human source.

48:10 They like the sexiness.

48:11 The same thing with signals intelligence.

48:13 Unless you're monitoring a feed full-time,

48:16 you're only getting snippets of conversations.

48:18 And so, somebody who has the human intelligence can come in and say,

48:22 "I can bring additional context to that communication." Um

48:25 the Israelis right now run the human intelligence out of Iran,

48:28 and the United States is held hostage to it.

48:30 And the but even worse is that the US intelligence community

48:34 isn't even given a chance to to counter what the Israelis say.

48:36 The president will meet in private with Prime

48:39 Minister Netanyahu and the head of the Mossad,

48:41 who will brief him independent of any US intelligence personnel present.

48:47 And the president you know, is won over by the the strength

48:51 of the personalities delivering fundamentally flawed arguments.

48:55 Uh So, this is an absolute intelligence

48:58 failure on the part of the United States.

48:59 Again, something that normally would trigger congressional inquiry,

49:02 but Congress is asleep at the wheel.

49:04 Yeah, absolutely.

49:06 Scott, great to see you.

49:07 Thank you so much for your assessment on this.

49:09 Really appreciate it.

49:11 Thanks for having me.

49:12 Appreciate it.

49:13 Well, coming up we're going to talk about Hantavirus.

49:15 Do you need to panic yet?

49:16 Is it time to get a mask yet?

49:18 We're going to talk about whether or not we can trust these positive cases yet.

49:22 We're going to talk to Dr.

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49:25 Also, the social media surrounding it is very strange and inconsistent.

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49:31 And predicted inside of the X-Files a number of years ago.

49:34 mentioned the Hantavirus as a government psyop program.

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52:09 But, I prefer a phone call.

52:10 But, Lear redacted.com is the website if you want to go there as well.

52:13 But, give them a call.

52:14 1-800-613-3557 and an American will answer the phone and talk to you.

52:19 This won't be outsourced to some call center in India.

52:23 1-800-613-3557.

52:25 [music] Well, the media is hysterical that people exposed to the hantavirus

52:30 from a cruise ship have disembarked and are just roaming the earth freely now,

52:35 sent back to all four corners of the earth, ready to infect you.

52:39 Should you panic?

52:40 Well, let's back up because the story goes

52:43 that people have tested positive for the virus

52:45 and they were sent off the ship and now

52:48 we're getting positive test cases from a flight attendant,

52:50 someone in Korea, someone in this country, that country.

52:53 But, what do we actually know about hantavirus testing?

52:57 Does it have the same reliability problems that the COVID-19 PCR tests have?

53:03 We are told that the Andes hantavirus test has a very high mortality rate,

53:08 but do we know that it's that strain?

53:10 How do they test that?

53:11 And is the morbi- mor- mobility rate the same

53:16 as people with comorbidities as it is for people without?

53:19 Now, thankfully, we've learned to ask

53:21 these questions because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

53:24 So, we have a few other things to note.

53:26 First off, hantavirus is not known to spread between humans.

53:30 If it is doing that now, this could indicate that it's been manipulated.

53:36 Also, hantavirus is an RNA virus, which could mean that ivermectin is

53:41 a possible therapeutic according to some doctors.

53:44 We're going to talk about that in a second.

53:46 Will the government prevent us from knowing that like it did before?

53:51 About strange, I linked you today to this video in the newsletter.

53:55 If you haven't seen it,

53:56 she's saying that the only people posting social media content around

53:59 this cruise outbreak are influencers or people who work for the cruise line.

54:04 It's very strange and inconsistent.

54:07 And two other oddities we should consider.

54:09 First of all, this has gone viral.

54:12 In 2022, someone posted that COVID would end

54:15 in 2023 and that hantavirus would pop up in 2026.

54:19 Is that a coincidence?

54:21 We don't know.

54:22 Um and also, as Clayton mentioned earlier,

54:25 it was also mentioned in an episode of The X-Files

54:29 in the '90s discussed as a way to expand government control.

54:33 Watch this short clip.

54:35 In July?

54:36 You know my work?

54:40 I was right about Dallas, wasn't I?

54:41 How?

54:41 How were you right?

54:43 Are you familiar with the hantavirus outbreak, Agent Mulder?

54:46 Yeah, it was a deadly virus spread by field

54:48 mice in the southwestern United States several years ago.

54:51 According to the newspaper,

54:53 FEMA was called out to manage an outbreak of the hantavirus.

54:56 Are you familiar with what the Federal

54:58 Emergency Management Agency's real power is?

55:02 FEMA allows the White House to suspend

55:04 constitutional government upon declaration of a national emergency.

55:08 Think about that.

55:09 What is an agency with such broad sweeping power

55:12 doing managing a small viral outbreak in suburban Texas?

55:16 A national emergency.

55:18 Okay, well, Dr.

55:19 Pierre Kory Great to be back.

55:20 Good to see you.

55:21 All right, good to see you.

55:22 So, let's just run down these questions systematically before we decide

55:26 to panic like the New York Post is telling us to.

55:29 First of all, can we trust these positive cases?

55:33 Uh what do you know about

55:34 hantavirus testing and specifically the strain testing.

55:39 You know, it's hard cuz it's a pretty

55:41 rare infection especially in the United States.

55:44 Um most of the time I mean now we have PCR which is ubiquitous

55:48 and you can use that, but it's typically

55:50 historically like even the CDC they use antibodies.

55:52 So you have to wait until they form antibodies to be I

55:55 think that's the much more uh I would say specific or accurate test.

55:59 Um but PCR really you can only test after symptoms.

56:02 So again, you know, we've gone through the testing with COVID uh you know,

56:07 the sensitivities and specificities of PCR.

56:10 Ultimately, any diagnosis it's really has to be in the proper clinical context.

56:15 So you really need to have the syndrome which fits Hantavirus, right?

56:19 And Hantavirus the two things that are make it relatively unique at least early

56:23 on, it's a severe viral infection like think of like the worst flu you've had,

56:28 but it's it's really known for severe myalgias like really bad muscle aches.

56:33 And so if if muscle aches are severe and predominating,

56:36 you got to really put Hantavirus much higher on your differential diagnosis,

56:41 but it has to be within a clinical context.

56:43 Otherwise, no no test really matters.

56:45 So um if those patients are really sick in terms

56:48 of a classic syndrome of a hemorrhagic virus, um could be real.

56:53 Could be real.

56:54 I don't know enough about those cases.

56:55 I just know that there were some deaths which which also suggests

56:58 it cuz Hantaviruses have like between 25 and 50% more mortality rate.

57:05 Um so [clears throat] if three people already dead on that cruise,

57:09 I wonder how many people on the cruise are sick.

57:11 Okay.

57:12 So you know, I see all the memes about Ratatouille

57:15 because you're supposed to really only get it from rodents.

57:19 It is not commonly known to be transmissible between humans.

57:24 What do you think of the idea that it could be transmitting

57:28 to a flight attendant possibly to someone who's been in, you know,

57:32 exposed to someone on the cruise ship,

57:34 that should not happen from what we currently know, right?

57:37 Yeah, I'm going to have to give two answers to that.

57:39 I'll give you the textbook answer and then

57:41 the new this brave new world we're in.

57:43 Um the textbook answer is that it's really poorly transmissible human to human.

57:49 Um in fact, there's really only one

57:51 strain that even concern yourself with and unfortunately,

57:53 that's the strain that was apparently on that ship.

57:56 It's called the Andes virus.

57:57 It's from South America.

57:58 The the American strains, the European strains,

58:01 really rare to have human to human transmission.

58:04 The other aspect though, even with the Andes virus,

58:07 it's not considered a common uh transmission route.

58:11 And really in order to have it transmitted,

58:13 you have to have really close contact,

58:15 like almost like intimate, you know, respiratory secretions, kissing,

58:19 you know, maybe like uh close physical caregiving,

58:21 but um it's not something you're going

58:23 to walk down the street and get from somebody.

58:24 So, I I I don't think we should go there,

58:26 but you know, in your intro, I listened to tell you, you know,

58:29 there's you know, what you what what you learn as a doctor

58:32 is you learn to be expert at seeing patterns and you know,

58:36 the patterns of anomalies make me uneasy here, like particularly,

58:40 I don't know that you mentioned

58:41 this, but like why would a pharmaceutical company

58:43 come up with a vaccine for a virus

58:46 that's not transmissible between humans to humans?

58:49 And uh they, you know, I can't remember which company did that, but they

58:52 did that in the last year or two.

58:54 And that that really kind of bothers me

58:56 because there's only one rationale for developing a virus

59:00 a vaccine for a virus that cannot be

59:04 really to any appreciable extent transmissible between humans.

59:07 And that's if you're preparing for a doomsday

59:10 scenario where somehow a highly uh transmissible strain emerges.

59:14 And so, um remember coronavirus used to be a cold, you know,

59:18 and then we saw one that uh became airborne and highly transmissible.

59:23 One of the most highly transmissible viruses we've seen.

59:25 And so, um you know, I don't want to go dark here,

59:29 but, you know, there's so much

59:30 monkey business going around the bioweapons research,

59:33 and they're, you know, they're doing, you know,

59:35 by the way, there's no such thing as defensive bioweapons research.

59:39 Like, anyone who's doing research in bioweapons,

59:41 there's no difference between offensive and defensive.

59:43 So, if anytime they're like monkeying around

59:45 with these viruses, you got to worry.

59:46 Right.

59:47 So, it's Moderna there that is when and Moderna did,

59:51 in fact, have a COVID-19 vaccine.

59:54 If we're looking at Can we put that back up on the screen, please?

59:56 2024 is the date of this when Moderna stock really was plummeting precipitously.

1:00:04 Uh, you know, because of the falloff of the COVID-19 vaccine uptake.

1:00:09 So, yeah, I mean, we're we're not saying we know why they would do this.

1:00:14 We don't.

1:00:15 But, we're You make a good point.

1:00:16 Why would they need to uh,

1:00:18 for a vaccine that you can only get from animals and has no human transmission.

1:00:24 So, okay.

1:00:25 Um, you know, Dr.

1:00:27 Robert Malone posted this if uh, this tweet today saying, you know,

1:00:31 your odds of being struck by lightning

1:00:33 are seven times greater than getting Hanta virus.

1:00:36 So, it should not be a big concern for the vast majority of Americans.

1:00:40 How do you feel about the odds?

1:00:42 I mean, that's not really telling us, you know,

1:00:46 the pathology, but it's just sort of the odds.

1:00:49 What do you think?

1:00:50 The The odds are tiny.

1:00:52 I mean, again, a traditionally textbook answer where you'd

1:00:55 only get it like the classic scenario is like um,

1:00:59 you get it from aerosolized like um, rat or mouse feces or urine.

1:01:04 And so, the classic transmission is like when you go to, you know,

1:01:08 sweep out or dust out like an old

1:01:09 shed or barn or something where rats have infiltrated,

1:01:13 and they're, you know, their droppings are there.

1:01:15 And so, it creates a little dust, and you you could inhale it.

1:01:18 But, like Robert said, it looks it's really rare,

1:01:21 and you shouldn't be concerned about it except

1:01:23 for the question mark that I keep bringing up.

1:01:25 Again, I don't want to falsely fear monger

1:01:27 because that's also part of the tactics, right?

1:01:29 I mean, I hate going back into COVID,

1:01:31 but we know all of the the that was a catastrophe and it was

1:01:36 man-made and we saw how it rolled out and we saw how so much

1:01:41 action was taken against early treatments

1:01:44 that were effective in pointing us to vaccines

1:01:47 and do we see that same sequence of events starting to line up here?

1:01:52 I I I would I really hope not, but you know what?

1:01:56 I'm going to say something without being boastful.

1:01:57 You know, those of us on the front lines who treat infections,

1:02:00 we learned so much from COVID.

1:02:02 We have so many different things that are broadly effective antivirals.

1:02:06 And like you mentioned,

1:02:07 Ivermectin would be a great candidate to once again save the day.

1:02:11 It's it's highly effective against RNA viruses, which is like hantavirus.

1:02:15 And so, have your Ivermectin ready.

1:02:18 Right.

1:02:18 So, I brought along this tweet by Dr.

1:02:21 Bowden who put online that because this is

1:02:24 an RNA virus that Ivermectin should work against this.

1:02:28 And then immediately she's community noted.

1:02:31 The community notes talk about Well, can you read them there?

1:02:34 They talk about how, you know,

1:02:36 it has it it's more to do with the nucleus than anything else.

1:02:39 So, you know, I I'm always I don't know.

1:02:42 Okay, this happened during the COVID-19 pandemic where we were

1:02:47 not allowed to even use the term Ivermectin on YouTube.

1:02:50 We would have gotten punished.

1:02:51 We didn't even say the word because our channel would have been punished for it.

1:02:55 So, I'm interested in what we are not allowed to know.

1:02:59 So, what do you think of this community note?

1:03:02 Yeah, I mean, it's the same pattern

1:03:05 that we've seen a lot throughout COVID, right?

1:03:06 Anytime anyone suggests that something might work

1:03:10 against a treatment when it goes cuz remember,

1:03:13 with COVID they had treatments that they wanted us

1:03:15 to use and rely on and they constructed evidence

1:03:18 bases around them to make them the only ones

1:03:21 with sufficient evidence to use on a national level.

1:03:24 And so, anything that doesn't reach their threshold

1:03:26 for evidence is always going to be, like, as you said, community noted, right?

1:03:31 And with the same thing all the time,

1:03:32 insufficient evidence, insufficient evidence.

1:03:34 It might work, but don't rely on it.

1:03:36 And, um, you know, I'll tell you, when COVID broke out, right,

1:03:41 and I I wrote the book The War on Ivermectin,

1:03:44 which is really detailing a massive

1:03:46 coordinated disinformation campaign against Ivermectin,

1:03:50 and it started right at the foundations of science in the manipulated,

1:03:54 uh, fraudulently designed trials trying to show that Ivermectin didn't work.

1:03:58 And then, finally, what do you make of this, um,

1:04:02 so people on social media are getting really anxious that hantavirus

1:04:06 was listed as a possible adverse event for the COVID vaccine?

1:04:10 Is it just because, you know, they're talking about anything that you can

1:04:14 catch because a vaccine would lower your immunity, or what do you make of this?

1:04:19 That is That's a bizarro one that I don't have a neat, uh, assessment of.

1:04:23 Like, it's funny because a a colleague had sent me that today,

1:04:26 a screenshot of the fact that it was listed as the side effect,

1:04:29 and I'm like, why would First of all, why would they list it?

1:04:32 Why would you think that possibly it could be related to COVID?

1:04:35 And I guess maybe there was just one person

1:04:37 who had gotten hantavirus after cleaning out an old shed,

1:04:40 and so it went on there.

1:04:42 So, I I think it's a weak association at best,

1:04:44 but what actually intrigued me more, and tell you about what you said,

1:04:48 is is a colleague told me that there was like 100,000 articles

1:04:54 written around the world on hantavirus in the last couple of days,

1:04:58 and that's not typical for a hantavirus outbreak.

1:05:01 Surely, there's always attention, and people get scared,

1:05:04 but like, that's the other thing with COVID.

1:05:06 It was COVID COVID COVID 24/7.

1:05:09 And then, when you told when you said it

1:05:10 in your intro about how it seems to be driven by influencers,

1:05:14 I'm sorry if I'm getting too like I don't know I actually never

1:05:17 want to use the word tin hat cuz I'm not a tin hat,

1:05:19 but these patterns are are anomalous.

1:05:24 Why with just this little outbreak of a few

1:05:26 cases suddenly like it's consuming the world's media cycle?

1:05:30 Like for instance, I'm on talking about it today.

1:05:32 What you know, it's because it's being driven by something.

1:05:35 Right.

1:05:36 Well, that's I mean again why I wanted

1:05:39 to talk to you because it the hysteria is beginning.

1:05:42 You know, is it time to buy the toilet paper?

1:05:44 Is it time to get the masking?

1:05:46 Is it just a media cycle because it's profitable for the media?

1:05:50 But you know, then you see these mortality rates and you're like,

1:05:53 oh well, okay, what do I need to know?

1:05:55 But like you said, doctors learned during the pandemic

1:05:59 how to treat things in a new way, how to diagnose things, how to look at things.

1:06:04 Journalists should have too.

1:06:06 So, I'm asking the questions up front

1:06:09 that we should have asked in December of 2019.

1:06:12 So, that's why we're here.

1:06:15 Yeah.

1:06:15 You know, let me tell you I want to make a point on that.

1:06:16 In medicine, when you are faced with a patient presents to you with a problem,

1:06:21 let's say the classic is chest pain.

1:06:23 They're complaining of chest pain.

1:06:24 You do not immediately say that it's heartburn, right?

1:06:27 And dismiss heart attack.

1:06:28 You generally medicine we're trained to always

1:06:31 rule out the worst possibility first, you know,

1:06:34 uh instead of dismissing it as benign and and and eventually

1:06:38 I'm not saying that everyone should you know, start or getting toilet paper,

1:06:40 doing all these things, but um you know,

1:06:43 that's kind of why I'm bringing up, you know, possible treatments,

1:06:48 you know, if if the worst if our worst

1:06:50 fears are realized and this is another you know,

1:06:53 monkey business from bioweapons research and that's

1:06:55 why there's a vaccine that's ready and waiting

1:06:58 and suddenly there's a media firestorm that's bringing

1:07:01 us a lot of attention to a cruise ship,

1:07:02 you know, that that whole sequence of events

1:07:04 if that keeps going and that and then and then next week maybe you have me back

1:07:08 on and we're talking about a very different situation.

1:07:11 I God forbid, I really don't want that to happen,

1:07:14 but I know how to treat it and I'm sitting

1:07:16 here sitting pretty not worried about it for me personally,

1:07:19 but I I I would hate for another catastrophe unfold.

1:07:23 Right.

1:07:24 Okay.

1:07:25 Well, hopefully this is just a media cycle, you know,

1:07:28 like shark attacks and pedophile priests, but if it's not, we'll talk again.

1:07:33 And uh we'll learn from this.

1:07:36 We're not going to do this again.

1:07:37 This is not a fun sequel.

1:07:38 We never meant to do it.

1:07:41 All right, let us know.

1:07:42 Let us know how your paranoia is about hantavirus.

1:07:45 Are you going to go and I don't know, buy some masks or what have you?

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1:09:33 Um How we doing, boys?

1:09:35 Are you feeling How are you feeling about hantavirus?

1:09:40 Or Uh you know, I'm I'm I'm just I'm just curious about

1:09:42 like why why Moderna would have would have had that vaccine.

1:09:47 And I'm wondering if maybe they they were they created a vaccine to the strain

1:09:51 of hantavirus that they had modified to make

1:09:55 it to make it the right the correct one,

1:09:58 so that the vaccine is already ready to go.

1:10:01 That is the question.

1:10:03 That is the question that we have a high confidence in asking, right?

1:10:07 So, yeah, exactly.

1:10:09 And so, how is your feeling about it?

1:10:12 Like, you know, Uh well, cuz and it's like cuz like I said,

1:10:16 I I studied uh I went to school for molecular biology,

1:10:19 and I and I did uh I had a fascination with virology.

1:10:22 I don't really I don't remember much about hantavirus.

1:10:24 I mean, I did The only thing like when when I heard about that outbreak,

1:10:27 the only thing I was like,

1:10:27 I thought that was a like a like a mouse like a rat virus.

1:10:30 Yep.

1:10:31 That was the only thing I remembered about it.

1:10:32 So, it's just like I just I don't I'm not buying it as the the next pandemic,

1:10:37 but we'll see what they've got in store, I guess.

1:10:39 Right, exactly right.

1:10:41 All right, what about you, David?

1:10:42 On a 1 to 10 scale, are you feeling panicked about it?

1:10:47 No, not at all.

1:10:47 I got plenty of Clorox here.

1:10:49 Okay, sounds great.

1:10:52 [laughter] Yeah, no, I'm not I'm not worried.

1:10:54 I'm in Thailand, they're not even talking about it.

1:10:56 No?

1:10:57 Okay.

1:10:58 Um well, why don't we move on to our super chats?

1:11:01 That stream was up, but now it's not.

1:11:05 Do you see it?

1:11:06 Ah, here it is.

1:11:07 Okay.

1:11:08 Um let's see.

1:11:11 Uh from ADV Ride Rider bloke.

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1:11:24 Um okay.

1:11:25 Sure, Jesse cheaters no cheaters.

1:11:27 That's about the Jesse Waters clip that I found absolutely comical.

1:11:30 Uh Natalia Annani.

1:11:33 Uh go ahead.

1:11:35 Well, I just that just absolutely like I I

1:11:38 could I I don't know I don't know how like

1:11:41 much of the Kool-Aid I could drink to where they

1:11:43 could get me to say that on air I know.

1:11:45 with a straight face.

1:11:45 Like if somebody told me like we want you to say that, I'd be like, "No.

1:11:49 No, I'm not doing that." [laughter] No, I have to face my kids.

1:11:53 Yeah, I can't say things like that.

1:11:56 Absolutely not.

1:11:58 Okay.

1:11:59 We're winning We're losing on purpose.

1:12:01 [laughter] Yeah.

1:12:01 Like, "What the hell, dude?" We're humiliating them.

1:12:03 We have all the control.

1:12:05 Says the government.

1:12:07 Okay.

1:12:08 Uh Natalia, thank you for your uh donation.

1:12:10 Thank you so much.

1:12:12 Okay, this is a good one.

1:12:14 Uh Southern Grits Comm.

1:12:16 If the media lies so often,

1:12:17 how do viewers know independent media isn't also falling into confirmation bias?

1:12:22 Well, you don't.

1:12:23 You got to be on guard, right?

1:12:25 We tell you all the time you shouldn't really trust people.

1:12:28 They're um uh David Icke recently did a great piece.

1:12:33 He's like, "Don't believe me.

1:12:35 Follow the information.

1:12:37 If something I say is I say to you make sense, look that up.

1:12:41 Follow it for yourself." If there's an influencer who's like,

1:12:45 "I always tell you the truth.

1:12:46 I'm always going to get it right." Well,

1:12:48 then you have to be wary of that person, right?

1:12:50 So, we all have to do our best to admit that the more

1:12:54 you study the less you know and just commit to constantly studying.

1:12:58 So, you can never know that uh but it's a good question.

1:13:01 Absolutely and I think it's it's also a good reminder.

1:13:04 Break your loyalty to people and brands and you [music] know,

1:13:07 only have a loyalty to the truth.

1:13:09 Um okay, anybody uses sycophant [music] narcissist as part of the script.

1:13:15 I don't know what that is.

1:13:16 Sycophant you meant sycophant.

1:13:17 I think they they spelled sycophant wrong.

1:13:20 Okay, Fed profiler Joe Navarro said it.

1:13:25 [music] They hide.

1:13:24 That's in the MK Ultra puppet brainwashing.

1:13:28 Okay, [music] do you know know what that means, you guys?

1:13:31 Mhm.

1:13:32 No.

1:13:33 Okay, but thank you for that super chat very much, Mario or Maria.

1:13:38 Maria Torres, 9789.

1:13:41 Um and then this is something someone [music] thinks the Ayatollah is saying,

1:13:46 "Suffer, Trump, suffer." [laughter] Maybe.

1:13:50 Yeah, I get what you're saying.

1:13:52 Absolutely.

1:13:53 All right.

1:13:54 Well, uh yeah, and Jen says, "Trust you and your intuition." Absolutely.

1:13:58 [music] My mom was talking to me about my Scofield piece the other day.

1:14:02 She'd never heard of the Scofield Bible.

1:14:04 My mother is a Jehovah's Witness.

1:14:06 [music] Um we talked about what Clayton had said

1:14:08 about the King James Bible and I was like,

1:14:10 "Mom, how do you ever know, you know, these religious leaders, [music]

1:14:14 even the ones of her own religion,

1:14:15 had their own uh scoundrel crises as well." And she was like,

1:14:21 "Just pray on it." You know,

1:14:22 that that's that was her answer [music] is trust your instinct and pray on it.

1:14:26 So, yeah, and don't lock in.

1:14:28 Really, don't lock in to anything.

1:14:30 Um I was just seeing Well, and also as far as like influencers

1:14:35 and creators or whatever that are out here making content,

1:14:37 the ones that I respect the most are the ones

1:14:39 that will admit even the littlest thing they got wrong.

1:14:44 Yeah, cuz there's so many of them that will never like they'll they'll say

1:14:47 something wrong and then they never admit it and a lot of them double down.

1:14:52 Yeah.

1:14:52 You know, so it's like if they if you if

1:14:54 you're watching somebody and they they have a bit of humility,

1:14:56 those are the people that I trust.

1:14:58 Yeah.

1:14:59 And I don't know.

1:15:01 I mean, don't don't do things because other people, you know, are doing them.

1:15:06 Just listen to what other people have to say, make your own decisions.

1:15:09 I was seeing that Nick Fuentes was like,

1:15:11 you know, "Republicans went back on every campaign promise.

1:15:15 I'm voting Democrat." And I was like, "Yeah,

1:15:16 you're right." I don't know that I can vote Democrat though.

1:15:19 I mean, like I can't vote for either of them at this point.

1:15:22 They're a uni-party.

1:15:23 I don't know that voting Democrat is going

1:15:25 to help us do anything, but I don't know.

1:15:27 Let us know how you feel about that because it's a uni-party choice.

1:15:31 Go ahead, David.

1:15:32 I'm writing myself in.

1:15:33 There you go.

1:15:34 This year.

1:15:35 I'm voting for Grover, my dog.

1:15:36 I can tell I would I'll boast all over the internet that I had one vote.

1:15:40 Okay.

1:15:41 [laughter] For president.

1:15:42 Maybe I'll vote for you.

1:15:44 Hey, then I have two.

1:15:45 Yeah, but may- maybe maybe I will.

1:15:47 It depends.

1:15:47 If you accept me as your running mate, then maybe.

1:15:50 The Foster boys.

1:15:53 Well, that's three votes.

1:15:54 There you go.

1:15:55 We're onto something here.

1:15:57 Yeah, I mean, but would you do it

1:15:59 if you had to actually like campaign for something?

1:16:02 No.

1:16:03 I'd be no cuz I'm weird around strangers.

1:16:06 thought if I have to leave my office thought like I

1:16:08 always thought like what would I do if I did that?

1:16:10 I would go out there and I would say

1:16:12 cuz like I do like every other politician did.

1:16:14 I'd go out there and say, you know, we need to bomb Iran and bomb all this other

1:16:17 stuff and then get in and do the opposite.

1:16:19 There you go.

1:16:20 Or they're like, "We're not going to bomb anybody." And they do the opposite.

1:16:24 I'd just be like, "They're Wow, this guy is like on fire." Yes.

1:16:30 And I and I also thought to myself that if I ever campaign.

1:16:34 I'm going to do the opposite of everything [laughter] I say.

1:16:36 And I and I also thought if I ever did become president,

1:16:38 I would have to spend my first 6 months in a bunker

1:16:41 with one person that I trusted so nobody could get

1:16:43 to me and poison my food cuz I know that they would

1:16:45 want to take me out for the things that I would do.

1:16:48 Okay.

1:16:48 Yeah.

1:16:49 Public enemy number one.

1:16:51 Yeah, for me it's just the timing.

1:16:53 Like I I only have time between like 10:00 and 2:00 and then I'm too tired.

1:17:01 [laughter] Can you run the run the run the free world from 10:00 to 2:00?

1:17:04 That was like Joe Biden, remember?

1:17:06 They said he's only really good in the middle of the day.

1:17:09 I'm like already there and I'm 47.

1:17:12 We can we can we can extend his day just

1:17:14 a little bit if we can get him some ice cream.

1:17:16 Yeah.

1:17:17 But I'm already like that.

1:17:19 I don't want to do anything fancy.

1:17:20 I won't go to banquets.

1:17:22 No ball gown, nothing like that.

1:17:24 I'm getting my 3:00 p.m.

1:17:26 nap.

1:17:26 That's not going to that's not negotiable.

1:17:28 Exactly.

1:17:29 So.

1:17:29 Yeah.

1:17:31 So, anyway, well, okay.

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1:17:46 And I hope you have a fantastic weekend.

1:17:48 My middle child is turning 14 tomorrow.

1:17:52 My baby.

1:17:53 My baby girl.

1:17:53 So, that's what I will be up to.

1:17:55 So, yeah, happy birthday to my my middle daughter.

1:17:59 She's amazing.

1:18:01 Okay.

1:18:02 Have a great week weekend everybody.

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