'Denying He’s the Dad' & 'Drugs Destroyed Mother-Daughter Relationship" & Much More

0:01 Plain Trisha Vincent dated the defendant and she

0:04 claims he cheated on her throughout their relationship,

0:08 including when she was pregnant with his son.

0:11 Trisha claims the defendant has at least eight

0:14 children and now he's denying paternity of her son.

0:17 So, she petitioned the court for a paternity test.

0:21 Defendant Jerome Robinson admits that he has eight children,

0:25 but he says four of them live with him and he financially supports them all.

0:30 Jerome admits that he had doubts about fathering the plaintiff's son,

0:34 so he agreed to take a DNA test today.

0:37 Start with you.

0:39 I met Jerome in 2008.

0:41 My cousin introduced us.

0:43 Um, our relationship was rocky from day one, but I was badly in love with him.

0:48 I thought our relationship was going to work, but it didn't.

0:51 How was it, Rocky?

0:53 Um, he cheated on me with numerous people.

0:55 Um, I got told about it a lot.

0:59 Um, he also when I was pregnant, he also continued cheating.

1:03 I constantly took him back.

1:05 How many women you think?

1:07 Uh, I really don't know, your honor.

1:08 I don't even think he knows.

1:09 I don't even think he knows how many kids he have.

1:11 That's why we're here because he's trying

1:13 to eliminate kids because he has too many.

1:15 That's why we're here.

1:16 Don't say it like that.

1:17 eliminate his the possibility of paternity.

1:21 Yes.

1:25 Just the way you said that threw me off.

1:28 All right.

1:30 I'm scared to ask you how many you think you have.

1:34 I know for a fact that he has at least eight.

1:38 At least eight.

1:39 For a fact.

1:41 That's just what of I know.

1:43 Is that the case, sir?

1:44 You have eight children?

1:45 Yes, I do.

1:47 Okay.

1:47 You able to financially care for all eight?

1:52 Yes.

1:51 Okay.

1:51 You pretty wealthy man.

1:53 What type of work do you do?

1:55 Well, I'm doing I'm on jobs right now.

1:57 Pardon me?

1:58 I'm on jobs right now.

2:00 I'm doing different jobs right now.

2:01 I'm doing Uber.

2:02 What type?

2:03 I do Uber.

2:03 I do um I'm a handyman.

2:06 So therefore, we do different labor.

2:07 I work with different people.

2:09 And you think you're able to financially care for eight children?

2:13 Yes.

2:14 No.

2:14 Yes.

2:16 No.

2:18 How many live with you?

2:20 Um, four.

2:22 How much child support do you pay for the other four?

2:25 Um, none.

2:29 Why?

2:29 Why?

2:29 And oh, the other four.

2:30 I I take care of them.

2:32 How much?

2:34 How much?

2:35 How much do you pay?

2:35 You don't even know what the word means.

2:39 How much do you pay in child support for the other four?

2:43 I said it twice.

2:44 This is my third time.

2:45 If you like, I'll make it four even.

2:50 Okay.

2:48 So, I will How much do you pay

2:51 for the four children that you do not have custody of?

2:57 How much in child support?

2:59 Yes.

3:00 Okay.

3:00 Um I pay like $300 $400 a month

3:04 for all for each.

3:06 Well, each is like uh like $75 per kid.

3:10 Per month?

3:11 Yes.

3:11 And you think that's enough for them to live off of?

3:15 No.

3:14 You admit that you don't pay enough and that you can't afford those?

3:18 Actually, I do pay more.

3:20 It's not documentated.

3:21 Four of them live with him.

3:23 I don't I doubt that they live with him.

3:25 He may live with their mother on and off.

3:27 All right, sir.

3:28 Let me hear from you about this child.

3:32 Well,

3:32 and your relationship with her if you want to give me some background.

3:35 Well, I met Trisha and I had the understanding we had an open relationship.

3:39 you know, we never committed to each other,

3:41 so therefore that's the way we we um took it.

3:44 Um

3:45 is that true?

3:46 No, it's not true.

3:47 Did you all ever live together or anything?

3:49 We stayed together maybe 4 months.

3:52 We lived together maybe four months.

3:54 He lived with me.

3:55 Yes.

3:57 Really?

3:57 And did you ever uh complain to him about seeing other people?

4:01 Yes.

4:01 And what did what would he say?

4:02 We He lied all the time.

4:03 All right.

4:04 And that's not true.

4:05 No, it's not true.

4:06 All right.

4:06 Go ahead.

4:06 Continue.

4:07 Never had a committed relationship.

4:09 What else?

4:09 Never committed.

4:10 Um um we had she had Giron and um she

4:16 told me she wanted to give him my last name.

4:18 So it had me a little puzzled.

4:20 So therefore, I was a little confused.

4:22 I was a little upset about the situation.

4:25 Uh he wouldn't give my I also didn't give him his quiet ma'am.

4:28 Let him finish.

4:29 He didn't say a word when you were talking.

4:31 Um Geron was born and people was telling me he don't look like me.

4:35 You know what I mean?

4:36 I um I always took care of Jeron like on my other ones I take care of.

4:41 Um and then um he then like so I did

4:44 a home DNA test and the um results came back.

4:48 I wasn't a father.

4:49 So therefore I confronted um Tanisha and she denied it.

4:53 Well, let's go get DNA and I had told her I took one.

4:56 I was like who will play games like this?

4:57 Did you show her the DNA?

5:00 No.

5:01 No, I didn't.

5:03 Why?

5:03 Because the result was on my um email.

5:05 I was trying to get the results faxed to me

5:07 and um I tried to get them and I couldn't um rece.

5:10 How long ago was that?

5:12 Um when I did the DNA test, Jeron was 5 years old.

5:15 So it was roughly about a year ago.

5:17 So if you've gone a year without being able to show her something,

5:21 you could have taken another one.

5:23 That wasn't the case.

5:23 I was a little hurt about the situation.

5:25 You know what I mean?

5:26 I was going through some things.

5:28 Ma'am, why wouldn't you give him the child's last name?

5:30 Um I didn't give him my son's last name

5:32 because he did not come to the hospital, your honor.

5:34 I was in there two, three days.

5:36 He did not even come to visit nor see my son and he had a heart problem.

5:40 He didn't come up there at all.

5:41 So, no, I did not give him his last name because he didn't come to visit me.

5:44 So, I figured you didn't even come see about him.

5:46 So, so you punished the child.

5:48 Yeah, that's what I did.

5:49 And it was my fault.

5:50 I take the blame for it.

5:52 Playing games with these kids,

5:55 playing games with their lives because he didn't come visit you for three days.

6:01 Horrible.

6:02 Horrible.

6:03 I was pregnant.

6:04 He also continued cheating.

6:05 I constantly took him back.

6:07 How many women do you think?

6:08 Uh I really don't know, your honor.

6:10 I don't even think he knows.

6:11 I don't even think he knows how many kids he have.

6:13 That's why we're here because he's trying

6:14 to eliminate kids because he has too many.

6:17 That's why we're here.

6:17 Don't say it like that.

6:18 Eliminate his the possibility of paternity.

6:24 Yes.

6:24 Plain Trisha Vincent insists the defendant is

6:27 her son's father, but he denies it.

6:29 So Tisha petitioned the court today for a paternity

6:32 test to find out the truth once and for all.

6:36 Sounds like you feel that you taking care

6:39 of them and you do perhaps what you can, but nine children, sir,

6:46 you cannot properly care for them with the amount of income you have.

6:53 And those children no doubt live in poverty.

6:57 And you may not even understand that.

7:00 You may not know they're living in poverty, sir.

7:03 And poverty is where the influences of crime

7:06 and drugs and destructive and criminal behavior come from.

7:11 Living in poverty.

7:12 So you're exposing these children to a life that might lead to drugs,

7:18 crime, violence, and criminal activity.

7:22 The majority of those engaged in criminal activity are living in poverty.

7:30 That's one of the root causes of crime.

7:34 Like they say, like I tell people, the best answer to crime is a job.

7:39 And you won't be able to provide college for nine kids.

7:42 And these days, you got to go beyond high school.

7:45 High school is not enough.

7:46 when they finish public school,

7:48 they're going to need some money to go to skilled trade school or college,

7:52 community college, university, something.

7:55 And you can't afford that for nine kids, sir.

7:57 Unless you're rich, period.

8:01 And so, you need to give a lot of thought to that.

8:04 And you need to get a lot more jobs.

8:07 Two jobs.

8:11 You need to do a lot.

8:13 You need to do a lot more, sir.

8:15 you or get a business that you might be able

8:18 to build and uh later have enough money to support your kids.

8:23 Some folks start out with small businesses and build them

8:26 up to a level that they can afford nine children.

8:30 What are you going to say?

8:31 Well, we never didn't say that.

8:33 I didn't own my own business.

8:34 I have owned a business before.

8:35 It failed, but I you know what I mean?

8:37 Okay.

8:37 But all right.

8:38 So, go and try again, sir.

8:40 because you're not going to be able to afford uh to pay for nine children living

8:46 a decent life in a decent community and get

8:49 a decent education off the jobs you have.

8:53 I'm done with it, sir.

8:54 I just want to open your eyes and because you really

8:57 are convinced that you are doing enough and from what I'm hearing,

9:01 you're doing something,

9:02 but I don't think you realize you're not doing enough for their future.

9:06 And uh ma'am, I'm just outraged quite frankly

9:10 that you would deny this child the name

9:13 of their father if the father wants the child

9:16 to have the name because he didn't visit you.

9:20 It's either that or perhaps you know it's

9:22 not his cuz that just doesn't sound rational.

9:25 Well, I know

9:26 I think at one day 30 days later you would say, "Okay, I'm not so mad.

9:31 Let me go change the child's name." 60 days,

9:34 90 days, a year, second year, third year.

9:39 It's been five years and you still won't give this child

9:45 his father's name because of the three days he missed.

9:50 What else you want to do to the child because of that?

9:52 Anything else you want to do to the child because of his failure?

9:57 Sir, you want to give me any more background

9:59 on why you think the child might not be yours?

10:04 Why do you now suspect it isn't yours after five years?

10:08 Because of the test, you say the test and also you didn't show her.

10:11 But what else?

10:12 The test didn't look like me.

10:13 Um, I have pictures.

10:16 Okay, let's see the pictures.

10:36 go and get the results.

10:38 When you've mentioned this to her, what type of responses do you get?

10:42 She always said, "Well, let's get a DNA test."

10:46 And you took your own and didn't show her the results.

10:52 If you were that convinced, sir, you made that much distraction in the world.

10:58 So, I did a home DNA test and the um results came back I wasn't a father.

11:03 So, therefore, I confronted um Tanisha.

11:06 Did you show her the DNA?

11:09 No.

11:10 No, I didn't.

11:12 Why?

11:12 Pliff Tisha Vincent insists the defendant is her son's father, but he denies it.

11:17 So Trisha petitioned the court today for a paternity

11:20 test to find out the truth once and for all.

11:25 All right.

11:25 It shows you ma'am the probability.

11:31 All right.

11:32 You can just read where circle and sir I hope you're ready for this.

11:37 And ma'am I hope you're ready for that.

11:39 What does it say?

11:40 Where circle concern probability 0%.

11:45 It is not his child.

11:48 Well, you still have eight.

11:52 Good luck to you.

11:53 Have a good day.

11:59 I'm sorry about it, but I was thought I was positive.

12:02 I guess I wasn't.

12:04 I knew the results.

12:05 How much I'm going set five years taking care of him for nothing.

12:12 But he's still my son.

12:17 Planiff Jessica Miles says ever since she was young,

12:21 her mother, the defendant, has been addicted to drugs.

12:24 Jessica claims the defendant, was clean when she was born.

12:28 But when she was 12, the defendant left and started using crack again.

12:32 Jessica is suing her today for impound fees and the value of a watch.

12:39 Defendant Stara Maxwell admits that she made bad choices and was hanging

12:43 out with the wrong crowd and that's how she got addicted to crack.

12:48 Stara says she's struggling to get clean but admits

12:51 that she's still an addict to this day.

12:54 Stara denies owing Jessica for anything.

12:57 Start with you.

12:58 Um, so basically we're here today because ever since I was young,

13:02 my mom has just been um addicted to drugs and it has affected our relationship.

13:08 And when I was 12 and my sister was 6 months,

13:10 she ended up leaving and my dad has raised us ever since.

13:13 Um, she's I I did not leave.

13:16 We were we went through a custody battle that I lost.

13:24 Okay.

13:23 What uh what type of drugs?

13:25 um crack.

13:27 And um just to clarify, one day she went out and never came back.

13:31 You went to a party and you never came back.

13:34 And so yeah, ever since then it has affected our relationship.

13:37 How old were you?

13:38 I was 12 and my sister was 6 months.

13:42 And ever since then, you

13:43 How old have you been since that time?

13:46 Um unfortunately, I have had some health issues.

13:48 I've had Crohn's disease which caused me

13:50 to have a liver transplant in October of 2010.

13:53 And you know, my mom has tried to be there for me,

13:56 but just due to her addiction, it just hasn't worked.

13:59 How about um your uh social development or educational development?

14:06 Oh, it's fine.

14:06 I will be starting school next week actually on the

14:10 It has interfered with that.

14:13 Uh she has some uh anger issues that sometimes can get out of control.

14:20 Jessica grade point average is 3.999 and uh she could

14:26 h she could I think she could have excelled faster.

14:30 It has interfered but uh she's working on it.

14:35 All right, ma'am.

14:36 In spite of her parents.

14:38 I feel so sorry for you.

14:39 I'm not going to even come down on you.

14:42 Thank you.

14:42 Because she don't need to do anything if she got a 3.9999.

14:53 All right.

14:53 She needs to get her degree and not let that go.

14:57 Just just be 3.999.

15:01 Yes, ma'am.

15:01 Thank you.

15:02 All right.

15:04 Yeah.

15:04 And I'll be starting school May 16th, which is

15:07 college or where?

15:08 Um at Pasadena City College.

15:10 I'll be attending there, majoring in philosophy.

15:12 Good.

15:12 All your financial aid paid for?

15:16 Yes.

15:17 Submitted.

15:17 All right.

15:17 And your sister, how's she doing?

15:19 She's good.

15:20 Very well, actually.

15:22 Good.

15:22 How old is she?

15:23 She's 12, about to be 13.

15:25 No, this is my friend.

15:26 Okay.

15:26 She's 12.

15:28 She doing all right in school?

15:30 Yes.

15:29 Who all helped you?

15:30 Your dad.

15:31 You think you attribute uh your success to him?

15:34 Um,

15:36 somebody raised you in and um taught you

15:38 the right values and made sure you were um

15:42 God Jehovah.

15:44 Okay.

15:44 Yes, ma'am.

15:45 Made sure that Yeah.

15:46 Sure didn't do it.

15:47 Money did it.

15:48 Yes, ma'am.

15:51 Yeah.

15:50 And made sure that you developed properly and the biggest

15:55 the biggest uh asset is a good education.

15:59 So, someone gave you the biggest asset in life you could get.

16:02 And so that was your father made sure you got that education or

16:07 Yes.

16:07 And I did have the help of my teachers in school.

16:10 You know, they helped.

16:11 Good.

16:11 Your father had to make sure you went there every day and when you got home,

16:15 he had to make sure you did that homework and he

16:17 had to make sure that you lived a life that wasn't destructive.

16:21 So, uh, what's your dad's name?

16:24 My dad's name is Kevin.

16:26 All right, Kevin.

16:27 Congratulations to you and you did a good job.

16:29 Let's give Kevin a hand, TOO.

16:38 DON'T YOU THINK KEVIN DID A GOOD JOB?

16:40 UH, I wouldn't change my experience for the world.

16:44 It's been a good one.

16:45 You wouldn't.

16:46 I say Kevin did.

16:47 I said I wouldn't change my experience.

16:49 But did Kevin do a good job?

16:51 Uh, he did.

16:52 God did it.

16:53 Like I said, so you say you would you'd get high all over again if you could?

16:59 Yeah.

16:59 Go through this one more time.

17:02 Huh?

17:03 Yeah.

17:02 All right.

17:03 At least you're honest.

17:04 Uh-huh.

17:05 Crack is good.

17:06 Anything to some folks.

17:07 That'll keep me sane.

17:09 Yeah.

17:10 Yeah.

17:09 You need a crack to keep you sane.

17:11 Uh, it kept me from laying down.

17:15 Okay.

17:15 What do you think caused your addiction?

17:18 Uh, bad choices.

17:20 And give me some background on that.

17:22 Uh, what got you started?

17:23 Uh, the choices I made were bad.

17:26 You know, my mom certified public accountant,

17:31 single parent, watched her go to school,

17:35 you know, from uh being on welfare and raised her three kids.

17:41 So, I could have made better choices.

17:44 I have no I don't play the blame game.

17:46 You'd get high all over again if you could.

17:50 Yeah.

17:50 All right.

17:50 At least you're honest.

17:52 Uh-huh.

17:52 Greg is good.

17:54 Anything to some folks.

17:54 That'll keep me sane.

17:56 Yeah.

17:58 Yeah.

17:57 You need a crack to keep you sane?

17:59 Uh, it kept me from laying down.

18:03 Plaintiff Jessica Miles is suing her mother who

18:06 admits that she's struggling to kick her crack addiction.

18:10 How did you get exposed to uh crack?

18:13 Uh, bad association.

18:16 I said, "Let me try that." Right.

18:18 And it hasn't been the same since, unfortunately.

18:25 Yeah.

18:24 All right.

18:25 Well, you're honest.

18:28 Very, very honest.

18:29 You say you'll do it all over again the same way.

18:32 It just hurt so bad that that pacified me for the moment.

18:37 Pacified you from what?

18:39 From feeling the pain.

18:40 I said it hurt so bad.

18:43 The loss of my children.

18:45 No, but you were using crack before then.

18:47 No, but I was eight years clean with them.

18:50 So, and I was working and mothering my children at the time.

18:53 So, why do you think the courts took them from you?

18:56 Because you had to handle it appropriately.

18:59 I went in there angry.

19:02 You know, I was emo.

19:03 My emotions got

19:05 They didn't give you a drug test.

19:07 Excuse me.

19:07 They didn't give you a drug test.

19:09 I I passed all my drug tests.

19:11 They still removed the children from

19:13 because of my anger.

19:15 The way I handled it.

19:16 A lot of people get mad in court, ma'am.

19:18 But they don't take the children.

19:19 That's not the consequence.

19:20 They might give you a fine, a sanction for contempt to court.

19:24 They don't take your children for contempt.

19:26 Well, they did that.

19:28 They did that.

19:28 And I didn't find out until two years later.

19:31 You didn't know your children were gone until two years.

19:34 I didn't find out in order, right?

19:38 Real hot.

19:40 No.

19:41 No.

19:42 No wonder.

19:45 No wonder.

19:46 You said you would go back cuz that's

19:48 You were getting can hide in a mother scooter.

19:52 All right.

19:53 No, I'm not trying to make light of it.

19:55 You turned out very well.

19:57 So, you can make light of it.

19:58 That's her problem.

19:59 That's her issue.

20:00 I know you love your mother, but you heard what she says.

20:03 Let her live her life.

20:04 That's the way she want to live her life.

20:05 You came out fine.

20:06 Love her just the same.

20:08 In my opinion, you can.

20:09 But don't love her in a way that it causes you problems.

20:13 Don't love her in a way that it interferes with your life.

20:16 And mama don't mind.

20:18 You sound like you still want a hit.

20:20 If I gave you a hit, you

20:22 I blow smoke in here.

20:24 How about that?

20:26 Hey, at least you ain't shame.

20:28 What else you want to tell me, ma'am?

20:30 Have you been in recovery?

20:31 I

20:32 I haven't really been in recovery.

20:34 However, I've been abstinent.

20:36 You know, it's time for Stara to work on herself.

20:40 Okay.

20:40 Have you gone to rehab?

20:41 Uh, not not yet.

20:43 I've been in rehab before.

20:45 It's been a struggle.

20:46 Yeah.

20:47 How many times?

20:47 Uh, uh, quite a few times, sir.

20:50 Over three or four?

20:52 Maybe more than that.

20:54 Okay.

20:54 Maybe more than that.

20:57 36.

20:56 I've had eight years here clean.

21:01 Uhhuh.

21:00 I've had 11 months there.

21:02 It's just been a struggle for me.

21:04 I'm asking so the other folks watching can get an understanding.

21:08 Well, what right now I I've stopped long enough to get

21:11 my housing cuz I was homeless for 10 years and um for 10 years.

21:17 Yeah, for 10 years.

21:19 I just went out.

21:20 I know how it goes.

21:21 You go from place to know time flies.

21:23 However, I've gotten my sh housing and now I'm just working on being

21:29 still and one day at a time because it is my struggle.

21:34 I've known plenty of folks struggle um with the crack addiction

21:39 and they've gone um rehab several times and many of them ultimately they

21:45 make it but they just keep going and the primary um solution

21:51 I've seen or way of recovery is going to those NA meetings

21:55 like starting out like twice a day.

21:58 Well, they say 90 meetings in 90 days, but I think AA is preferably.

22:03 I know, baby.

22:04 You need NA.

22:05 You on crack.

22:06 You ain't no alcohol.

22:10 All right.

22:14 You something else.

22:15 All right.

22:16 Tell me what you suing your mother for.

22:19 What happened?

22:20 Okay.

22:20 So, on um March 19th, I was admitted to the hospital.

22:23 And on the 23rd, my mom stole my car from the hospital.

22:27 And so I'm suing her for the price of the impound fee, which

22:30 How did she get the car?

22:32 Um, she said she was going to get her wig

22:34 out of the car and she never came back.

22:35 She was visiting you

22:37 and you gave her the keys to go and get her wig

22:40 and she never came back.

22:42 And I'm suing her for the cost of the impound fee and then my item,

22:46 my watch that was missing from the car when she returned it.

22:50 Okay.

22:50 So, she did come back at some point.

22:53 Oh, well, the car um excuse me, the car was impounded.

22:56 So, um, at midnight

22:58 somewhere where where did they find it?

23:00 They found it at her house.

23:01 So, at midnight, I ended up calling the police because she didn't return.

23:04 I'm sorry.

23:05 I ended up calling the police.

23:06 I have the police report right here.

23:08 I made a police report and I also have the the

23:12 How long?

23:12 I bet you called her all night or had someone calling her all night.

23:16 But she turned her phone off.

23:17 So, I was texting her and um she wasn't responding.

23:20 And so, I just notified her as well that I was calling the police.

23:23 The police told me to notify her that they were there.

23:26 I also have the text messages as well.

23:28 How many days did she keep it?

23:30 Just that one?

23:31 No, she kept it just one day.

23:33 But I just was um worried about my car.

23:35 I didn't know who she had in there and I have valuables in there.

23:38 So, they impounded it at 3:00 a.m.

23:40 And unfortunately, I had to pay a fee.

23:42 Pliff Jessica Miles is suing her mother who

23:45 admits that she's struggling to kick her crack addiction.

23:49 Ma'am, what do you say to this?

23:50 I say that I owe nothing because the car was

23:53 in my driveway and uh why was the police involved anyway?

24:00 Because you took and kept it without authorization.

24:04 Why was the police involved anyway?

24:06 I'm her mother.

24:08 The car was parked in my driveway.

24:11 Why did they take it out of my driveway?

24:13 Without authorization.

24:15 Okay.

24:15 Wherever you leave it, you've taken it without her authorization.

24:19 She didn't know where it was.

24:20 You out on the bench.

24:23 How you know what I I know what you were doing.

24:26 How I know.

24:28 You know there smoking up Peru.

24:34 He was out there being a rock star.

24:37 Bean me up.

24:38 Scotty, how you know?

24:43 All right, ma'am.

24:45 I've been around watching hundreds in where I come from addicted to crack,

24:52 including family members, and I know just how it goes.

24:56 Ma'am, uh, what defense do you have to the watch?

25:00 Uh, I I had no clue there was any watch in there, sir.

25:04 All right.

25:04 What happened to the wig?

25:06 The wig?

25:07 Yes, ma'am.

25:08 Actually, somebody I let somebody You borrow the wig?

25:13 Yeah.

25:13 which I'm mad at them now cuz they didn't bring it back.

25:17 No, but she did call me yesterday about the wig

25:20 evening when I was in that room.

25:23 A nice room.

25:23 You don't need any help with us getting you uh some rehab.

25:27 Do you need placement anywhere?

25:29 Can we help you?

25:30 Uh I'm open for I'm open.

25:32 Okay, good.

25:33 I'm I'm glad to hear that.

25:38 I'm going to have my staff get you some help.

25:40 We do a lot of that here.

25:42 So, I'm going to grant you the judgment.

25:44 Have a good day.

25:45 Thank you.

25:51 I just want the best for you.

25:53 I just want to ultimately have a good relationship with you,

25:57 but not if it's going to interfere with me moving forward in my life.

26:02 I want all of what you want for us, and I'm open to it.

26:08 I love my daughter.

26:11 whatever it takes.

26:13 After the case was heard,

26:14 Starlo went to an inpatient rehab center where she completed a 60-day program.

26:20 Stara was a stellar patient while in rehab

26:23 and has remained sober since her release.

26:30 Plaintiff Angela Buyers dated the defendant and they lived together for 3 years.

26:36 Angela claims the defendant was addicted to pornography

26:39 and as a result their relationship deteriorated, so she moved out.

26:44 Angela is suing her ex-boyfriend for unpaid wages.

26:49 Defendant Clarence Bullet Jr.

26:51 says he wasn't addicted to pornography,

26:54 but Angela was addicted to sex and she nearly broke down his door every night.

27:00 Clarence claims he kicked Angela out after she had him falsely arrested

27:04 and then robbed him and he's counter suing for stolen money and rent.

27:09 Start with you.

27:10 Okay.

27:11 Um we met almost eight years ago.

27:13 Um and since thou 2013 we lived together full-time

27:18 and I quickly realized that he had a porn addiction.

27:22 He would watch pornography 10 12 14 hours a day every day.

27:26 And

27:27 he didn't work.

27:28 No, he quit working the day we met to do that.

27:33 No.

27:32 Um, maybe a few years later.

27:35 Yeah.

27:36 But no, 2008 was the last time he worked.

27:38 But from 2013 on, he looked at pornography full-time every day.

27:43 Um,

27:44 was he getting paid?

27:45 You say full time.

27:47 10, 12 hours a day.

27:48 That is a job.

27:49 I think.

27:50 Um, that's what I'm saying.

27:52 That's what he did to pass.

27:53 He retired.

27:55 Yeah, he is retired now.

27:57 Were you were you there when this?

27:59 Yes sir, I was.

27:59 Yes, I was.

28:00 Um I You didn't try to interfere?

28:02 Oh, yeah.

28:03 I tried to make a nice home for us um and be entertaining.

28:06 And

28:07 I'm talking about when you saw him doing that.

28:09 Oh, yeah.

28:10 I tried to

28:10 You saw him watching all the porn.

28:12 Did you step in front of the TV and say no?

28:15 Yes.

28:15 Or turn the channel?

28:17 Um the internet?

28:17 Yes, I would.

28:18 Yes, it would.

28:19 Did he fight you?

28:22 Yes.

28:21 That's addiction.

28:24 Yes, sir.

28:25 Is this true, sir?

28:26 Not at all.

28:26 Not at all.

28:27 She You want You want this thing based on fact.

28:29 You should hear the facts.

28:30 She's a liar.

28:32 She's lied all her life.

28:33 She's a good liar.

28:33 She's lied to her family.

28:34 Her family don't like her.

28:35 In my retirement, I was 65 64 years old when I retired.

28:39 I'm a retired engineer.

28:40 I had I have a settlement for my sister.

28:42 I didn't have to work anymore.

28:44 All right.

28:44 And when do you say he was doing all this?

28:46 He did it full-time since 2013 when we lived together.

28:50 And that much Viagra in the world for 12 hours.

28:53 Yeah.

28:54 Right.

28:55 Go ahead, ma'am.

28:56 What else you want me to know?

28:57 Um, well, in January of this year, I moved out.

29:01 I couldn't take it anymore.

29:02 Um, it was dehumanizing, demoralizing, frustrating, and hurtful as a woman.

29:07 So, I moved out.

29:08 And because of that,

29:10 yeah, it was hard to compete with that many women.

29:13 You told him that.

29:14 Your honor, your honor, she's lying.

29:16 I threw her out.

29:17 She didn't quit, leave.

29:18 I threw her out because she stole everything I had.

29:22 She took every penny out of my bank account.

29:25 She had taken she she took $700 out of my checking account with my debit card.

29:29 That was in January or the late December 2015.

29:33 You say you moved because he was watching uh porn.

29:36 Our relationship had deteriorated.

29:38 Yes, sir.

29:38 Your honor, she broke my door down every night trying to get sex.

29:41 I I didn't have a porn addiction.

29:43 She had a sexual problem.

29:44 She wanted me and I didn't want her.

29:46 And I threw her out.

29:46 She didn't walk out.

29:47 I threw her out because she lied to the police saying

29:50 that I scratched her and got me thrown in jail for domestic violence.

29:53 And then 12 hours later, they let me go and dropped all the charges and I went

29:57 back to my house 12 hours later and it was been robbed.

30:00 I thought it was her, of course, you know,

30:02 first thing, but I found out later it wasn't.

30:04 She said it was.

30:04 I couldn't find a thing.

30:05 Ma'am, would you call the police on him for domestic violence?

30:07 No, sir.

30:08 Um, I called him to keep the peace so I

30:10 could get the last of my stuff out of the house.

30:11 And when they came, they seen the scratches and arrested him.

30:15 And she said I scratched her.

30:16 That was Yeah, that's what she did.

30:18 They arrested him without you telling them that.

30:23 They asked where the scratches were and I said he grabbed me.

30:26 And you didn't think that uh meant domestic violence?

30:32 Yes, I know it does.

30:33 And they arrested him as a result of you telling him that?

30:35 Yes, sir.

30:36 All right.

30:36 So, you're playing games with me?

30:38 Don't go away.

30:39 More of Judge Matthysse is coming up.

30:45 Plainif Angela Buyers dated the defendant,

30:48 but she claims she broke up with him

30:50 because he was severely addicted to pornography.

30:54 Let's get to the wages, ma'am.

30:55 But, uh, so far it sounds like he has more credibility than you.

30:59 Go ahead.

31:01 Okay.

31:01 Um, I went back in February to start taking care of him because in January,

31:05 a month later,

31:06 about six weeks later.

31:06 Yes, sir.

31:09 Yes.

31:08 You told me you left in January.

31:10 January 10th.

31:11 I went back February 25th.

31:13 Okay.

31:13 Is the day exact day I went back for about a month.

31:16 I did.

31:16 And then I told him he was going to have to start paying me that I was

31:19 starting to get a little bit of a life 50 miles away in another town on my own.

31:23 And he needed to start paying me.

31:25 And I asked for $100 a day and he refused.

31:28 So we settled on 50

31:30 as of February.

31:33 In March, right?

31:34 End of March, beginning of March.

31:35 Middle of March.

31:36 March 23rd, I think, to be exact.

31:38 Your honor, let her finish and then I'll get back to you.

31:41 Mid-Marchch you all agreed he would pay you.

31:44 And what were you to provide?

31:45 What type of uh care?

31:47 Care caregiving duties.

31:49 Anything that he needed like taking care of the house,

31:51 listening to him cooking, entertainment,

31:54 listening to him cook.

31:55 No, listening to him talk, you know, political talks.

31:58 Um cooking, cleaning, um dusting with no top on.

32:02 Um being entertainment.

32:04 You were the dust with no top on.

32:06 A couple times.

32:07 A couple times.

32:08 That was part of the agreement, ma'am.

32:10 Yes, sir.

32:12 And you agreed to that?

32:15 Yes.

32:15 Why?

32:17 Um for $50 a day.

32:22 Strippers get more than $50 a day, ma'am.

32:24 Yes, sir.

32:24 They do.

32:27 Go ahead.

32:29 What else was the agreement, ma'am?

32:30 Cooking, cleaning.

32:32 Cooking, cleaning, waiting on him, helping him with personal needs and hygiene,

32:35 talking to him.

32:37 I worked there 45 days.

32:39 We had $50 a day.

32:40 Um, I basically was living there with him.

32:42 I got a bed and stayed in the spare room.

32:44 Yeah.

32:45 What do you mean by basically?

32:46 I lived there.

32:47 I had Why did you say basically?

32:49 Because I didn't have any furnishings there.

32:50 I had moved out in January.

32:51 That's not what that means.

32:52 Your credibility.

32:53 You heard in about a moment, ma'am.

32:54 Let me hear from you, sir.

32:56 Um, well, where do you want me to start?

32:58 Go

32:59 about whether you had an agreement with her uh to pay her $50

33:03 a day beginning in mid-March to be your caretaker and to walk around topless.

33:09 She didn't quit or walk away.

33:11 I fired her.

33:12 Told her to get out.

33:13 You fired her for for walking around topless?

33:16 No.

33:16 I used to lock my door up at night to keep her away from me.

33:19 The thing is is she worked for the county for a couple months

33:22 and she got nine hours a day to work to do my needs.

33:25 That's all she got.

33:27 But I fired her.

33:28 And when I come back and my debit card was taken.

33:31 Nope.

33:31 Did she move in to She thrown out a contractor on her.

33:35 It's right here.

33:35 On the third month, 18 of $100 a day.

33:39 The back of a paper plate.

33:41 $100 a day.

33:42 And I told her at that point, she's crazy.

33:45 I would not pay her $100 a day.

33:47 She didn't do anything anyway.

33:48 What did you agree to pay her, sir?

33:50 She also put perks.

33:51 What did you agree to pay her?

33:53 I I said nothing.

33:54 exchange was rent.

33:55 She had to pay me rent if she wasn't going to do anything.

33:58 And how much was that?

33:59 She begged to get back in the house.

34:00 How much was that to be?

34:02 $65 a day, sir.

34:04 $65 a day in rent, right?

34:06 $65 a day.

34:07 Multiply that up by 30 days.

34:08 No, that's for 45 days.

34:09 Yeah.

34:10 Okay.

34:10 So, let's do 45 days.

34:12 45 time 65 is $2,925.

34:16 He's right.

34:16 2925.

34:18 2925.

34:18 How much were you paying?

34:20 I paid uh $775 a month, but that was the rent.

34:24 But she had my car.

34:25 She drove my car anytime.

34:26 She didn't pay insurance.

34:27 What was she to get for taking care of you?

34:29 That was what she was going to get.

34:30 She was going to get the rent.

34:31 She's going to get my car to drive.

34:33 She had Wi-Fi.

34:34 Free Wi-Fi.

34:34 She had a telephone in the house.

34:36 Yeah.

34:37 What was she drive your car?

34:38 Did she ever drive it to provide anything for you?

34:41 Whatever.

34:42 Whatever I needed her to drive me to get something from the store,

34:44 I expected her to be there.

34:45 She was never there.

34:46 She was gone all the time in the store.

34:48 never did drive and get.

34:49 No, she never got things for me.

34:50 She never did a thing for me.

34:52 All she did is drive around and freloadad off

34:54 my money when I gave her $100 to go get $20.

34:56 Cared for you?

34:57 Oh, once in a while once maybe at the average of about 30 minutes a day.

35:01 The dishes was constantly dirty.

35:03 I couldn't even get in the floor in the kitchen cuz it was wet.

35:06 There was nothing done.

35:07 The bathroom was terrible.

35:09 It it it just turned into a a big ball of mess.

35:12 Plainif Angela Buyers dated the defendant, but she claimed she broke up with him

35:17 because he was severely addicted to pornography.

35:21 Ma'am, you stayed there all that time and when

35:24 you asked for money, what would he say?

35:26 Um, that he had money coming to just hold on.

35:29 Did he tell you when it would be coming?

35:31 Any and yes, in the end there, I it was any day then.

35:34 And then when the check came, he didn't pay me.

35:36 He kicked me out.

35:38 Why did he kick you out?

35:39 Cuz he said he wasn't going to pay me.

35:40 and he cursed at me and said I never was going to cuz I said get up.

35:43 I'm getting you dressed.

35:44 We're going to the bank.

35:45 I'm going to get paid.

35:47 She stole $700 out of my out of my check.

35:50 That that's account claim.

35:51 What happened there?

35:52 She I come out of the hospital.

35:53 I looked into my checking account.

35:55 My card, my debit account or my checking account was debited $700.

35:59 It was unauthorized.

36:00 She took it.

36:00 I confronted her.

36:01 What what did you do with the money or did you take the money?

36:03 She says, "Yeah, you forced me into this." Well,

36:06 that wasn't the money that I She supposedly says I owe her for the 45 days.

36:09 That's before that even happened.

36:11 That's why I threw her out because she stole that.

36:13 Ma'am, did you take $700 out of his account without his permission?

36:17 Yes, sir.

36:18 So, why don't you think you should be held accountable for that?

36:21 And why wouldn't you think that's theft?

36:24 Um, I didn't think it was theft because I felt

36:27 like he pushed me into that when he would not

36:28 let me use the car after I've always drove

36:31 a car all my life and drove the car we had.

36:34 Wouldn't let you use his car.

36:35 It was our car.

36:36 Yes, it was my car paid for it by a shirt by me.

36:40 None.

36:40 I sold mine and drove his.

36:43 All right.

36:44 Yeah.

36:45 Ma'am, you're very confused today.

36:47 It sounds like I'm going to conclude

36:50 that uh the wages were in exchange for rent.

36:55 I'm going to go with what he's saying.

36:57 I'm not going to grant you any rent, though,

37:00 because I believe you did receive care from her while she was there.

37:04 I will grant you your $700.

37:06 Somehow you think that uh you could

37:09 remove money from his account without his permission

37:12 because of a car he would not let you use that you paid zero toward.

37:18 Your claim is dismissed.

37:20 Judgment for the defendant in the amount of $700.

37:24 Have a good day.

37:30 She's going to be gone and I'm going to be living okay.

37:33 I'm going to be happy but broke.