knowing when to quit

0:00 You always hear people say, "Don't quit.

0:03 Don't give up.

0:04 You got this.

0:05 Persevere.

0:07 The only way you fail is if you quit.

0:10 So, don't quit." And you never hear people saying, "You know, it's okay to quit.

0:15 Sometimes quitting is a necessary step

0:18 in accomplishing your ultimate goals in life.

0:21 Sometimes quitting is the bravest thing you can do." You

0:24 never hear people saying that cuz it's not as sexy.

0:28 There's something easy and sexy about don't quit.

0:33 And we've been hearing it our whole lives,

0:34 or maybe I should just speak for myself,

0:36 but I've been hearing that my whole life on Nike t-shirts,

0:41 in little story books for kids.

0:44 Don't quit.

0:45 I feel like I grew up thinking that quitting

0:48 was a negative thing, was a bad thing.

0:50 And that definitely stuck with me.

0:54 Even though now I'm an adult who has the ability to sort

0:57 of shade in these ideas that I absorbed as a child,

1:02 there's a weird thing that happens when you absorb something as a child.

1:06 Even when you get older and you have the ability to color

1:10 things in and sort of look at things with a more nuanced perspective,

1:15 these beliefs that were sort of cemented into the brain

1:19 as a kid sort of remain there subconsciously even if you know better.

1:25 And that's how I feel about quitting.

1:26 Like I know that the advice don't quit does

1:30 not just apply to everything 100% of the time.

1:33 I know that there can be value in quitting an endeavor.

1:38 I know that.

1:39 But, because when I was a kid,

1:41 there was sort of a negative connotation around quitting because

1:45 a lot of the times quitting isn't the answer, right?

1:49 Persevering, pushing through is the answer.

1:52 Because as a kid, I was constantly being told not

1:55 to quit and that failure only really comes when you quit.

1:59 I just always felt sort of guilty about quitting.

2:04 Even when in my rational mind I know that quitting

2:07 can be the bravest thing that you can do.

2:10 So, in today's episode I thought we could

2:12 dissect the complicated dilemma of when to quit.

2:16 When is quitting the move?

2:19 And when is it the move to persevere?

2:21 But, I think this episode is going to be more focused on trying to figure

2:25 out when to quit and how to accept quitting as a necessary part of our journeys,

2:33 because I feel like that's the more challenging feat.

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3:06 Now, back to the episode.

3:07 I mean, listen, sometimes quitting sounds easier.

3:11 Often times quitting does sound easier.

3:13 But, I think a lot of us feel guilt about it, right?

3:17 Whereas none of us are feeling guilty about persevering.

3:20 And maybe I have a unique perspective on this.

3:23 Like maybe this isn't the universal feeling around quitting.

3:27 Maybe this is sort of unique to me.

3:29 I mean, nothing's unique.

3:30 But, nothing can be unique to me.

3:32 Like there's no way I'm the only one experiencing this.

3:35 That that's not possible.

3:37 But, I imagine there are some people out there that have the opposite problem.

3:40 Like perhaps they feel like if if things aren't working,

3:44 then that is a sign to quit and move on.

3:46 And maybe they actually need to sort of work on persevering

3:50 in those moments and potentially taking it

3:53 as a growth opportunity or utilizing it

3:55 as a growth Maybe what I'm saying is maybe some people struggle

3:58 to persevere when they actually should persevere

4:02 and they miss out on growth opportunities.

4:04 Whereas for me, I think I have the tendency to stay

4:08 in a situation for too long out of guilt of quitting

4:12 even when quitting can be a really important step in this journey

4:16 of life and can actually lead to success and fulfillment.

4:23 It can be a step in that, you know, and I struggle with that reality.

4:27 But I do imagine that some sort of struggle with the opposite reality,

4:31 which is like quitting too easily.

4:33 And perhaps that's the default sort of approach

4:37 to deciding whether or not to quit something.

4:39 And perhaps that that's why the advice that we

4:43 grow up with is don't quit no matter what.

4:46 Don't quit.

4:47 Keep going.

4:49 Because maybe we we're prone to quitting as humans, which makes sense.

4:53 But I I guess I have a tendency to take things too far.

4:58 I don't know.

4:58 I think I'm I'm a perfectionist.

5:00 So maybe it's a little bit of that going on.

5:03 But regardless of where you fall on the spectrum,

5:06 regardless of if you're somebody who tends to quit too easily

5:10 or you're somebody who could work on a perspective shift about quitting,

5:15 seeing that it's not necessarily always a failure,

5:18 I think it's safe to say that the decision

5:22 of whether or not to quit something is a challenging one.

5:24 I don't think it matters where you are on that spectrum.

5:27 I think it is always a challenging decision,

5:31 especially in a certain category of dilemmas and situations in life.

5:37 In fact, I think it'd be useful if I if I defined

5:40 the types of situations that are so challenging to figure out, okay?

5:46 Because there are certain things that you definitely shouldn't quit,

5:50 and there are certain things that you definitely should quit,

5:52 and it's obvious, okay?

5:54 You definitely should quit anything that's toxic,

5:59 bad, unhealthy, detrimental to your well-being.

6:03 Like, that's obvious, right?

6:05 Any sort of bad habits,

6:07 any sort of toxic environments or situations, obviously you should quit that.

6:11 That's obvious.

6:12 And not always And I'm not saying I'm not saying that to insult people

6:15 who are struggling to quit something that is perhaps toxic or bad for you,

6:18 because it's not easy, okay?

6:21 I mean, it can be easy.

6:23 It also can be really challenging.

6:25 So, I'm not saying, "Oh, that's obvious, you know,

6:28 and if you don't see that that's obvious, you." That's not what I'm saying.

6:31 I'm saying, coming to the conclusion that you

6:35 need to quit those types of things is easier.

6:37 The process of quitting is still going to be

6:40 challenging in a lot of these types of scenarios.

6:44 But, I think the answer is usually pretty obvious to the person.

6:48 It might be scary, it might be uncomfortable,

6:50 it might be challenging, but I think it's more obvious.

6:53 And same thing goes for like an overarching goal in life, right?

6:58 Like, if your goal in life is,

7:01 "I want to be fulfilled in my career." If the goal in life is,

7:05 "I want to find love." You know, whatever.

7:08 If you have a big goal like that, you

7:10 should never give up on those goals, you know?

7:13 Those sort of overarching life goals that are

7:17 abstract and could come to fruition in any way,

7:20 those goals we should never give up on, right?

7:24 Those we should never quit in the pursuit of those goals, right?

7:28 The types of situations I'm talking about today are much more complex,

7:34 more specific, more isolated situations or dilemmas, where the answer abstract?

7:43 There's no right or wrong answer.

7:46 These situations or dilemmas are a jumbled mix of positive and negative

7:51 that make coming to a conclusion of whether or not to quit more challenging.

7:55 Like these situations are neither super positive or super negative.

8:00 Or maybe they are kind of positive or kind of negative, but it's not obvious.

8:06 Do you know what I'm saying?

8:06 Like the answer is not obvious.

8:09 Let me give you some examples.

8:10 I think that'll help paint the picture.

8:12 A great example would be whether or not to quit your job.

8:15 When your job is okay, you kind of like it, and you know,

8:20 maybe financially it it's comfortable, but maybe you have bigger dreams.

8:25 You're like, "Ah, this is not ultimately the career I

8:29 want to be in for the rest of my life, right?" But also it's comfortable,

8:33 and maybe like maybe this could turn into a career.

8:37 Like maybe I could climb the ladder,

8:39 and this could become a a really fulfilling career for me.

8:44 But also it might not.

8:45 That's a great example.

8:47 Another example, shutting down a business.

8:50 If you're an entrepreneur,

8:51 the dilemma will arise at some point of whether or not to continue the business,

8:57 unless you have some sort of miraculously

9:00 genius business plan that is foolproof,

9:03 and from day one you never take a wrong step,

9:06 which probably happens to some people, but not not many.

9:09 Um entrepreneurial ventures are ripe with challenges.

9:13 You know, on one hand, a lot of really successful entrepreneurs failed,

9:19 like 20 times before they had their successful business.

9:24 You know, you hear stories time and time again

9:27 about entrepreneurs who's who started all these different businesses,

9:31 and then failed, and then but then they got back up,

9:34 and they started a new one, you know?

9:36 And a lot of times when you hear that story, it's like, well,

9:39 I had to know when to give up on one venture and start a new one, right?

9:43 But then you also hear stories about entrepreneurs [snorts] who

9:46 started a business and it hit rock bottom and they

9:49 hit bankruptcy and then they got back up and then

9:51 they kept pushing because the the founder believed in the business,

9:56 you know what I mean?

9:57 It's a tricky one.

9:58 In a moment of challenge in a business, do you persevere?

10:02 Do you let it hit rock bottom and and pick it back up?

10:05 Or do you let it go and start something else?

10:07 That's another example.

10:09 Another example would be moving back to your hometown.

10:12 Maybe you move to a big city and that was

10:16 sort of your dream for a period of time,

10:18 but perhaps moving to the big city isn't what you thought it would be.

10:22 Maybe it's more lonely.

10:23 Maybe the opportunities that have arose aren't actually

10:27 as fulfilling as you expected them to be.

10:30 Maybe you're feeling homesick.

10:31 Well, this could be a huge opportunity for growth.

10:34 Pushing through that discomfort and finding comfort in this unfamiliar place,

10:39 finding fulfillment in this place where fulfillment

10:42 isn't coming as easily as maybe you thought,

10:45 could be an incredible growth opportunity.

10:47 It could also be that you had expectations about the situation and they

10:51 didn't end up living up and the reality just simply isn't what you want.

10:56 You could quit and move home or you could persevere.

11:00 Another example of this kind of dilemma.

11:03 Last example, mediocre relationship.

11:06 Romantic relationship specifically because I

11:08 feel like friendship friendship's different, right?

11:11 Because you can have a bunch of different friends and you

11:13 can have a bunch of different levels of closeness with your friends.

11:18 Whereas if you're somebody who practices monogamy,

11:22 you can only date one person at a time in a in a serious way.

11:26 And so there's more pressure on that one relationship

11:30 and it's more important that you check certain boxes, right?

11:35 Whereas in friendship, you can have a funny friend,

11:37 and then you can have like a super supportive friend,

11:39 and then you can have a party friend,

11:41 and then you can have a shy, nostalgic friend from your childhood.

11:46 Like, you can have all these different types

11:47 of friends that check different boxes in different ways.

11:51 Whereas with a romantic relationship,

11:53 it's [snorts] more important that you you check certain boxes, right?

11:57 Because you can't check those boxes with other people.

12:00 Unless you're polyamorous, in which you can.

12:03 But a decent portion of us are not.

12:05 So, I think this really applies with romantic relationships,

12:08 particularly mediocre ones.

12:10 One where it's like, let's say, you're in a relationship, and it's good.

12:15 You know, it's okay.

12:17 There's a decent sort of companionship.

12:20 There's a good amount of potential, but it's maybe not amazing, right?

12:25 You love them, but maybe you're not really sure if you're in love with them.

12:29 But at the same time, like, it's good.

12:31 It's not bad.

12:32 It's not toxic.

12:33 It's not necessarily unhealthy, but maybe it's not electric.

12:36 Well, that happens in relationships sometimes, you know?

12:39 Like, the reality of romantic relationships is that it's

12:42 not always going to be this like explosive, obsessive sort of situation.

12:47 In fact, sometimes that's actually not a good thing,

12:50 because that's like a sign of almost a state of sort of delusion, in a way.

12:55 I would That's my opinion.

12:57 That can be sort of an unhealthy dynamic, actually.

13:00 But we love that dynamic, cuz it's so exciting and so fun.

13:04 [snorts] So, perhaps the relationship is just in a lull,

13:07 and it's actually a really beautiful relationship.

13:09 It's just not super exciting in this moment.

13:11 And it's worth staying and and blooming in the relationship, because, you know,

13:17 it actually does have a lot of potential,

13:19 [snorts] and it's just having a normal low point.

13:21 Or, maybe it's just not right.

13:23 Maybe it's just not your person.

13:25 Although, actually I should be careful with that type

13:27 of verbage verbiage because I don't know if that exists.

13:32 Your person.

13:33 Does that exist?

13:34 Up for debate.

13:36 Up for debate.

13:37 And I think there's a lot of smart people out there that would say,

13:40 "No." Uh who are much smarter than me.

13:43 So, I should probably um trust them.

13:46 But, that's a dilemma.

13:48 You know, what do you do?

13:49 Do you stay in it?

13:50 Do you leave?

13:51 What do you do?

13:52 I think for me, my baseline, right?

13:54 As I said earlier, is to stay in it.

13:57 To keep pushing.

13:58 Not to quit.

13:59 Because I don't want to fail.

14:02 No one wants to fail, you know?

14:04 That is That's No one wants to fail.

14:07 And I also don't want to miss out on a growth opportunity, right?

14:10 So, oftentimes my default is like, "Okay, I'm going to I'm going to stay in it.

14:14 I'm going to keep pushing." And I think that that can be the right approach.

14:19 And I think it can also be the wrong approach.

14:21 But, it's really really hard to tell which.

14:26 Let's discuss the pros and cons of quitting.

14:28 Just like what what good can come

14:31 from quitting and what good can come from persevering.

14:35 Which should we start with?

14:36 Let's actually start with the value of persevering, not quitting.

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15:10 Now, back to the episode.

15:12 What's the value in sticking with it?

15:15 Number one, growth.

15:17 Because I think the trickiest part of this dilemma

15:21 is that we grow when we persevere through challenging situations.

15:27 You know, when pursuing a goal, working in a particular career,

15:32 starting a business, moving to a big city,

15:35 or moving out of your hometown to pursue something,

15:38 being in a romantic relationship,

15:40 we do these things because they're usually like goals that we have, right?

15:46 Like we want to have a certain type of career.

15:49 We want to be in love.

15:51 You know, those are goals that we have.

15:53 And the pursuit of those goals inevitably will bring challenges.

16:00 Inevitably.

16:02 And persevering through those challenges is how we grow.

16:06 If we buckle and we quit every time there's a challenge, we don't grow.

16:11 There can be so much value in persevering because

16:15 the only way to get through the challenge is to grow.

16:18 The only way out is through.

16:20 And I think the drive from the goal is

16:24 what pushes us to overcome the challenge in the situation.

16:29 And then we come out the other side a better person.

16:31 You know, that's sort of the beautiful thing

16:33 about having goals and working towards them is

16:35 that not only are we working towards a goal

16:38 that could be potentially very fulfilling in our lives,

16:41 but also the journey is sprinkled with beautiful growth opportunities.

16:47 And I think anything worthwhile is going to challenge

16:50 us and force us to grow as people.

16:53 Okay, moving on.

16:54 There's often less regret if you fully see things through.

16:58 When you don't quit,

16:59 you're never left with a haunting thought what could have been, you know,

17:03 like what if I had stuck with it a little longer,

17:06 what could have happened, you know?

17:09 You almost never regret persevering.

17:11 That's not actually necessarily true though.

17:13 That's not necessarily true.

17:14 You definitely can regret persevering.

17:17 But we're not going to talk about that yet.

17:19 Cuz we're talking about the value of persevering right now.

17:22 So, we'll we'll save that for later.

17:25 You can regret persevering, but I will say, at least in my experience,

17:30 I'm less likely to regret persevering because

17:33 that what if can really haunt a person.

17:37 And lastly, I would say persevering helps us get into a practice of getting

17:44 up after we fail and or pushing

17:47 through a challenge instead of automatically quitting.

17:49 Like practice makes perfect, right?

17:52 And the more you persevere when things get tough,

17:56 the more that will become a practice

17:57 in your life and the better you'll get at it.

18:00 You know what I mean?

18:01 And I think that that's a really great way to live.

18:04 Like I I don't give up when gets gets tough.

18:08 I push through and I see it through.

18:10 Practice makes perfect.

18:12 And so, I think the more you do it, the better you get at it,

18:15 the less discouraged you get when things go wrong, you know?

18:18 And I think that's a really beautiful thing.

18:20 But, let's get into the value of quitting.

18:23 Sometimes we have to make space for the next venture in our lives.

18:28 You know, the saying close one door to open another.

18:32 I don't know if that's the saying.

18:33 What is the saying?

18:33 It's like you got to close one door to open another to open a new one.

18:38 Whatever, you get the idea.

18:39 You've heard that before.

18:40 Your grandma's probably said it to you, your mom, your uncle, okay?

18:44 Your friend.

18:46 You've heard it.

18:47 And it's very true.

18:48 I think particularly in relationships, you know,

18:51 you really got to close a door to open another one a lot of times.

18:54 If you're still hung up on well,

18:57 if you're still hung up on a relationship or you're still in a relationship,

19:00 you can't be opening another door, right?

19:03 But, I think this also applies to in career as well.

19:07 If you're putting all of your energy into one sort of path career-wise,

19:12 it's very challenging and sometimes impossible to see what's out there,

19:16 explore other options, unless you let that go.

19:21 You know what I mean?

19:22 We only have so much time and energy,

19:24 and it's our responsibility to use it wisely.

19:29 And if something is really not working, it's okay to say, "You know what?

19:33 I think the wisest move right now is to let this thing go,

19:38 quit, and pursue something else." And you know what?

19:41 Worst-case scenario, if I go and pursue something else, and I was wrong,

19:45 and I let a good thing go,

19:47 there's always an opportunity to return back to that thing.

19:50 I mean, it might not work.

19:52 Like, if you might not be able to get your old job back,

19:55 you might not be able to go back to your to your ex, but you could at least try.

19:59 It's our responsibility to say, "Okay, the situation isn't terribly bad,

20:04 but I think it's preventing me from reaching my highest, fullest potential.

20:09 And I know that being in this situation is preventing

20:12 me from exploring that, and I need to explore that." Next,

20:16 in the same way that practicing perseverance can be incredibly valuable,

20:21 I also think the practice of knowing

20:23 when to quit something is also really valuable.

20:26 See, that's why it's tricky.

20:27 It's like I think both skills are really important.

20:31 And so, I think there's value in looking

20:34 at a situation and saying, "You know what?

20:35 I I think that there's more for me out there.

20:38 I'm going to quit this and try something

20:40 else." There's also a lot of value in that.

20:43 And I think the the beautiful learning from that is

20:46 becoming comfortable with this sort of feeling of failure.

20:51 Like, because I I think we've all been taught over

20:54 the years that quitting is the ultimate form of failure.

20:57 And quitting in some ways is it's failure.

21:00 But it's failure on a small scale, right?

21:02 If you quit something, that doesn't mean you're a failure in your life.

21:06 It just means one little thing failed, and that's okay.

21:09 That that might be a crucial step in your journey to ultimate success.

21:14 As I said earlier, there are so many stories of entrepreneurs who started

21:18 10 businesses and failed at all of them before they started their 11th,

21:23 and that was the one that succeeded.

21:24 You know, and I think getting comfortable with failure is a challenging

21:30 but really valuable thing to do because I think a lot of times,

21:34 in order to ultimately succeed,

21:36 sometimes you have to let things go completely and completely quit.

21:40 Another value in getting comfortable with quitting

21:43 is quitting can be really discouraging, right?

21:48 And when you quit something completely, you're like,

21:51 "I'm done with this." It takes a lot

21:54 of strength to start something new again, right?

21:59 But I think that experience can be not only really

22:03 productive and ultimately be a step in reaching your ultimate goals,

22:08 but I also think, too, it teaches you resilience.

22:12 It's a growth opportunity, as well.

22:14 There's growth in deciding to quit, as well.

22:18 In the same way that there's growth in perseverance,

22:21 there's also growth in quitting.

22:23 It's just a different type of growth, but both opportunities can invite growth.

22:29 And last but not least, I think the value of quitting can be the time.

22:34 Now, I I don't I'm I'm I'm like nervous to say this cuz

22:38 I don't know if it's the right way to look at quitting.

22:42 Like, I think this sort of mentality can get toxic,

22:47 so I'm going to be careful about how I say it.

22:50 But also, I'm just going to say it.

22:52 Um you can waste a lot of time in a situation that's not ultimately

22:59 pushing you to become the best person you can be and reach your ultimate goals.

23:05 You can waste a lot of time in situations like that.

23:08 But I also don't think time's ever wasted.

23:10 Everything is a lesson.

23:11 So, that's why I'm hesitant cuz I'm like it might just be

23:15 part of your journey to be in a situation for too long,

23:18 probably, that is not maybe serving you.

23:21 Like that might be a part of your journey.

23:23 So, I'm like hesitant to say that not

23:26 quitting could cause you to waste your time.

23:29 I think it's kind of a dangerous statement and maybe I shouldn't be saying it,

23:33 but I think quitting can sometimes save you time in a way.

23:37 Like, you know, if [snorts] you're in a mediocre relationship,

23:40 quitting that relationship and being like,

23:41 you know what, this is not I I think there's more out there for me.

23:45 Now you have more time to find who's next.

23:48 Do you know what I mean?

23:49 But then at the same time that's sort of toxic

23:50 cuz that there is no time There's no specific timeline.

23:54 There's no right or wrong timeline.

23:56 So, maybe I don't Maybe I don't stand by that one.

23:59 So, how do you figure it out?

24:00 How do you figure out what to do?

24:03 [snorts] You're in a situation where you're not sure whether

24:04 you want to persevere or quit and let it go.

24:07 How do you figure it out?

24:09 Well, over the years,

24:12 I've gathered some questions that I ask myself when I'm in this dilemma.

24:19 And I'm going to share those with you all.

24:21 And that's not to say that I have it all figured out, okay?

24:24 But this is what in the past has helped me.

24:28 And it was actually really helpful to write these down in a way because

24:32 I feel like I've had these questions sort of floating around in my head,

24:37 but I've never written them down and I'm

24:39 take I'm copy and pasting these questions

24:42 and putting them in a document titled should I quit or not or something.

24:46 And I'm going to return to these moving forward and go down the list, okay?

24:51 I might even journal about these things, right?

24:52 Like these might make their way into the journal.

24:55 Because I think that having them all written down as sort

24:58 of like a questionnaire could be really helpful for me moving forward.

25:02 But these are the questions that I ask myself.

25:05 Number one, is this situation challenging me

25:09 to grow or preventing me from growing?

25:12 Okay?

25:13 Is this situation uncomfortable and the only way I could get through it

25:17 is by becoming a better version of myself in one way or another?

25:22 Or is this situation just completely stagnant and there's no room to grow?

25:29 It's just not a good situation or it's just not a great situation.

25:33 It's just almost kind of like a neutral

25:35 blah situation where there's no push to be better.

25:39 It's just kind of blah.

25:42 Do you know what I'm saying?

25:43 Okay, next.

25:44 Question number two.

25:45 Am I persevering in this situation because there's potential here or because I'm

25:50 stuck in the belief that quitting is bad and I'm afraid of failure?

25:55 Like am I just in this for the ego?

25:57 Am I just in this to prove a point to someone or to myself?

26:00 Or am I persevering here because there's genuinely potential?

26:05 Next.

26:05 Question number three.

26:06 How much damage is this situation doing to me and my life

26:09 and what is the likelihood that it will get better and be worth it?

26:13 Get rational with it.

26:15 What's the data?

26:16 What's the data showing here?

26:18 Is this ultimately doing more harm than good?

26:20 And it can be sometimes hard to tell in these sorts of situations that are sort

26:24 of jumbled messes of positive and negative where

26:27 there it it's not obviously bad or obviously good.

26:32 It's just kind of both.

26:34 Sometimes you have to really dig in and analyze to see where it's leaning.

26:39 Is it leaning more positive or is it leaning more negative?

26:42 And what's the likelihood of it going in a positive direction

26:45 and what's the likelihood of it going in a negative direction?

26:48 And what's the likelihood of a miracle and is that worth the risk?

26:53 You know, if it's like, uh most likely it's going to go bad,

26:56 but it could go good if there's a miracle.

26:59 Well, that's not something to ignore.

27:01 Miracles do happen, you know?

27:03 And that's valid.

27:05 You're not completely, you know,

27:07 kooky for giving that a chance or believing that that's possible.

27:13 But, how down bad will you be if the miracle

27:15 doesn't happen and it ends up going in a negative direction?

27:17 [clears throat] Next question, number four.

27:20 Is there something else I could be putting

27:21 my energy towards that would be more fulfilling?

27:24 Is this situation getting in the way of me progressing in my life?

27:28 Like, is this particular situation so consuming that there's no

27:33 way to explore options outside of it while within it?

27:38 Do I have this sort of innate feeling

27:40 that there's more out there for me and that I'm

27:43 not pursuing it because I'm in this I'm

27:47 kind of complacent in this sort of situation.

27:50 Next question, am I ready to make a decision?

27:53 Have I tried everything?

27:54 Are there any rocks left unturned?

27:56 Will I regret not giving it more time?

27:59 Have I given it enough thought and analysis?

28:02 Am I jumping to conclusions?

28:04 I think a lot of times when it comes to these types of situations,

28:08 really marinating on it is the move.

28:12 Jumping to conclusions based on emotion is not the move, you know?

28:18 Really taking the time to let the decision process and waiting

28:23 until you're as certain as you think you can possibly be,

28:26 I think is is the move.

28:28 And last but not least, how much damage will quitting cause?

28:32 Am I in a place where I can reasonably leave

28:34 this situation right now and it won't cause serious issues?

28:37 Sometimes you might want to quit something,

28:40 but you're like, I actually literally can't.

28:42 And that's okay, too.

28:44 You know, quitting can sometimes be a journey.

28:47 Right?

28:47 It can be a process.

28:49 It doesn't need to be this boom night and day

28:52 now I was doing this thing and now I'm not anymore.

28:56 You know, sometimes it's a process.

28:58 Let's say you obviously like you don't have another job lined up.

29:01 You can't just quit your job or let's say you live with your partner.

29:05 Um you can't just leave the relationship.

29:07 You live with your partner.

29:08 It's like a weird you know, sometimes it's a process.

29:11 And you never want to be you know,

29:13 too irrational and sort of irresponsible with these with these sorts of things.

29:17 That's not good.

29:18 You want to be prepared and make sure you set yourself up properly to quit.

29:23 I'm trying to think if there are any

29:24 other questions I ask myself that I didn't mention.

29:29 No, I think that's it.

29:32 It's so hard.

29:34 It's so hard and you know, I'm I'm actually in a place in my life

29:38 right now where particularly in my career,

29:41 I'm trying to figure out the next five years of what

29:44 I do with my time and I've been deeply analyzing you know,

29:50 what to continue pursuing and what to let

29:52 go of and it's been an incredibly uncomfortable journey.

29:57 I'm really struggling with it to be honest

30:00 and that is why I'm making this episode.

30:02 That's why this episode is relevant because

30:05 I'm trying to figure that out and I'm looking at every single facet of my career

30:10 and and asking myself all of these questions.

30:13 And it's a journey.

30:14 I'm taking my time, but let me tell you it's driving me nuts.

30:18 It's driving me nuts and it's scary and it's scary and it's weird,

30:22 but I'm like I I'm I think I'm ready for the next

30:27 kind of version of my career and some stuff's got to go.

30:32 Like I might have to quit some stuff or maybe I have to maybe not.

30:35 Maybe I need to evolve things.

30:38 Like it's a whole dilemma and so I'm really deep in it right now.

30:42 But this episode was really helpful for me

30:44 honestly because it was sort of healing

30:46 to discuss the value of quitting certain things

30:49 at times because I'm somebody who's prone to persevering

30:53 and I think there might be certain things in my in my career right now where

30:58 I'm like I actually think this is preventing

30:59 me from my next wave of God knows what.

31:03 But also it might just but also maybe not.

31:05 I don't know.

31:06 Anyway, I'm going to go reflect on these questions that I just gave you

31:10 all of what to ask yourself when you're faced with a dilemma like this.

31:13 I'm actually going to go really journal on these things.

31:16 So I got to go.

31:18 But thank you all for listening and hanging out.

31:19 Hopefully this episode was enjoyable to you in one way or another.

31:23 If you enjoyed it, new episodes every Thursday.

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31:36 I love you all.

31:37 I appreciate you all.

31:39 Hopefully this episode was coherent honestly because I just

31:42 got over the flu and my brain is not working.

31:45 It's not working well.

31:47 It's like foggy foggy fog up there right now.

31:50 I mean I I don't even know how I just talked

31:52 to you all for this long because my brain is not working.

31:55 Also if you heard weird sounds coming from my throat,

31:58 it's because I have mucus in my throat

32:00 and my chest is like making weird mucus sounds.

32:03 So hopefully that didn't gross you out.

32:06 Okay, I love you all.

32:07 I appreciate you all.

32:08 I'll talk to you in a week.

32:10 Bye.