Bibi BLAMES SOCIAL MEDIA For Anti-Israel AS NYT HORRIFYING Report Drops

0:00 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in his splashy

0:03 60 Minutes interview on Sunday night,

0:05 which Crystal and I covered yesterday also made some

0:08 comments in regard to what he sees as rising anti-semitism.

0:12 And he has a theory of why this is apparently happening.

0:16 It is related to, you guessed it, social media.

0:19 Let's take a listen to this first thought.

0:21 We have seen the deterioration of support for Israel in the United States almost

0:29 uh I would say it correlates almost 100% with the geometric rise of social

0:35 media and that by itself is not what caused it and I I don't

0:39 believe in you know in censoring them

0:42 or anything but I'll tell you what happened.

0:44 We have several countries that basically

0:47 manipulated social media with bot farms,

0:51 with fake addresses to break the American uh sympathy to Israel,

0:57 to break the American Israeli alliance

0:59 because they think it's in their interests.

1:02 And they do it in a clever way.

1:03 You know, it's like uh you hear a text message.

1:06 I'm a, you know, red-blooded Texan.

1:08 I always supported Israel, but I can't stand what they're doing.

1:11 I'm turning against Israel.

1:12 And then you trace the address to some basement in Pakistan,

1:16 you know, and that's that's something that has hurt us badly.

1:20 While we were fighting the physical military

1:22 battle on seven battlefields, seven front war,

1:26 we were completely exposed on the eighth front,

1:29 the media war, really the the social media war.

1:32 in a healthy uh political climate,

1:35 he would be asked to apologize for those comments

1:37 because he is implying that the American people are so

1:39 stupid that dumb little text messages are what swayed

1:43 them to start especially he's talking about the American right.

1:46 You can hear because he talks about this red-blooded American Texan.

1:50 that's his way of talking specifically about Republican voters,

1:53 conservatives, right-leaners in the United States,

1:56 uh are just so dumb that their opinions

1:59 can't possibly be informed that if they have lost,

2:02 if they are if their support for Israel is declining,

2:04 it's because they are misinformed, ill-informed, disinformed,

2:09 or too stupid uh to actually just have an opinion

2:13 that differs uh from Prime Minister Netanyahu's as Americans,

2:16 by the way, people who believe their country's interest,

2:18 their interest, their family insurance interests,

2:20 their their uh children's interests are out of line with the party that Netany,

2:26 the Lood party essentially.

2:27 And Saga, toss this over to you with also the news that Israel

2:31 is now is bragging basically about banning Tyler Ala from entering the country.

2:37 This is the next element.

2:38 It's a Laura Loomer exclusive.

2:40 She posts uh Israel's minister of diaspora and coma

2:43 combating anti-semitism exclusively tells me quote it was his pleasure

2:47 to make sure Tyler Alivera could not enter Israel

2:50 today upon landing in the country from the US.

2:54 She mentions of course also that Tucker just completed

2:56 an interview Tyler just completed an interview with Tucker Carlson

3:00 in which which they bashed Israel with lies and then

3:03 Tyler hopped on an LL flight to Israel sagger.

3:07 So, it's all just an op uh from foreign countries manipulating Americans,

3:13 manipulating Tucker Carlson, uh using him.

3:17 He's he's all this is all from foreign money.

3:19 It's couldn't possibly be American people saying this is what is in my rational

3:24 interest based on uh the best information that they could come up with.

3:27 Yeah, you really should read actually uh what this guy said,

3:30 the minister of the diaspora.

3:31 He says, "The party is over.

3:33 Anyone who comes here with this aim of spreading

3:35 hatred will be sent back where they came from.

3:38 This follows the implementation of the new policy entry into Israel or activity

3:41 within Israel will not be permitted

3:43 for anyone who disseminates anti-semitic content,

3:46 supports BDS or incites against the state of Israel and the Jewish people.

3:50 The rule is simple.

3:50 Whoever incites against us simply will not be here.

3:54 And of course Tyler Olivivera to my knowledge, you know,

3:58 the video which they are the most upset with him about is the uh

4:03 one about I think it's was a hetic Jewish community I think in New Jersey.

4:07 Okay, listen.

4:08 Go watch it, you know, for yourself.

4:10 You can decide, you know, whether it's anti-semitic or not.

4:13 I would say it fits within the broad catalog of the work that they've done.

4:17 And that's I mean to me that's the hypocrisy.

4:20 Like if he does a video about uh like illegal migrants in Europe,

4:25 everybody loves him, right?

4:27 Yeah.

4:27 At least right-wingers, but they love Somalians.

4:29 They love it.

4:30 Uh oh, no, you can't do that, right?

4:33 And see, that's the problem.

4:34 And that's, by the way, why that guy has what,

4:36 like 9 million subscribers on YouTube.

4:39 This is We're just a politics show.

4:41 This is like a cultural phenomenon.

4:43 It is.

4:44 My favorite Oliver's video is when he went to like

4:46 Alabama and tried to find people who had kissed their cousins.

4:49 Like this is the content America needs.

4:52 Like this is like culture.

4:53 You know what I'm saying?

4:54 Like it's like pop culture era stuff.

4:56 Like this is a YouTube tier which we are never going to be in.

5:00 Don't want to be

5:01 We send Ryan Grim out to Alabama and try to find cousin kissers.

5:04 Could be interesting.

5:05 We could send Ryan Grim to find fish fans uh in Alabama.

5:07 That would be uh just it'd be like uniting of brothers.

5:10 Uh but I think the point you know that remains here is

5:14 they view it as a social media problem not a reality problem.

5:19 And you know look it's trit and it's funny Tyler Olivera.

5:22 Haha.

5:23 Okay that's not serious.

5:25 What's serious are stories like the one we're about to show you

5:28 which actually really do shock the conscience and make you go huh.

5:34 Is this something that you want to be either complicit

5:38 in or supportive of andor you know it makes you just

5:43 think is this the country which we were told that it

5:46 is right and I think for a lot of pe

5:48 a lot of younger left lefties humanitarians what happened in Gaza

5:52 is really shocking uh from a right-wing perspective it's also

5:56 been the humanitarian but the the biggest discomfort comes

6:00 from the level of control over discourse in our own country, right?

6:04 Is because you really start to be like, well, hold on a second.

6:07 You know, not some bleeding heart liberal,

6:09 but you don't get to tell our bleeding heart liberals what to say and or do,

6:12 and you definitely don't get to throw them in prison, right?

6:15 Like, that's our business.

6:16 It's not your business.

6:17 And that's what I think really starts to great,

6:20 I think, and it becomes something that's now happened altogether.

6:22 It's been almost 3 years since October.

6:25 It just blew the doors really off of this.

6:27 And then, you know, finally,

6:28 it's long-winded way of getting to the New York Times story,

6:31 but I do think it's important because the reaction now

6:34 from the pro-Israel diaspora or the Israeli government to the story pales

6:40 in comparison to the way that they reacted when Ryan and many

6:45 others started investigating the claims over mass rape on October 7.

6:51 And look, this is the most difficult and uncomfortable

6:53 thing to talk about, but so be it.

6:55 You know, it's become a ma major part of the discourse around this subject.

7:00 The point remains that the New York Times story,

7:02 which they published about mass rape on October, screams without words.

7:07 Screams without words, had several holes within it that did

7:11 not hold up to serious journalistic scrutiny.

7:15 I'm not saying necessarily it didn't happen,

7:16 but many of the claims that they made within that that were investigated again,

7:20 not just by Ryan, but many others that looked into them systematically,

7:24 many of them did not hold up over time.

7:27 Okay.

7:27 So then let's compare that, and I'm going to let you set this up to this now

7:30 New York Times story from Nick Kristoff

7:33 about rape of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli custody.

7:36 Well, yeah.

7:37 And let's just also I mean Ryan is always very careful to say this.

7:39 He thinks the chance that there was no rape on October 7th is zero.

7:44 is it is not it is unrealistic to say

7:47 that there was no sexual violence or rape on October 7th.

7:51 Almost certainly there was and there is evidence.

7:54 The question is whether these claims were uh inflated for the sake of propaganda

8:00 and then misreported by outlets who uh

8:03 had lapses in journalistic uh ethics essentially.

8:07 And now this is being turned around

8:09 against New York Times columnist Nick Kristoff.

8:12 He is on the opinion side of the paper and he ran this story just yesterday.

8:17 We can pop it up on the screen here.

8:19 D4 uh the headline is the silence that meets the rape of Palestinians.

8:24 He started by saying it's a simple proposition.

8:27 Whatever our views of the Middle East conflict,

8:29 we should be able to unite in condemning rape.

8:32 Supporters of Israel made that point after the brutal sexual assaults against

8:36 Israeli women during the Hamasled attack on Israel on October 7th, 2023.

8:41 Now, he's very clearly starting on a point of agreement

8:45 with many of the people who are now his detractors.

8:48 He goes on to say, "Yet in wrenching interviews,

8:51 Palestinians have recounted to me a pattern

8:54 of widespread Israeli sexual violence against men,

8:57 women, and even children by soldiers, settlers,

9:01 interrogators in the Shinbet Internal Security Agency,

9:04 and above all, prison guards." Now,

9:08 people took issue with the fact that Kristoff

9:10 cited a report from the Eurommed Human Rights Monitor,

9:14 which people who are pro-Israel see as anti-Israel and biased for that reason.

9:20 Kristoff in the piece, I will say,

9:22 he does describe it as quote a Geneva based advocacy group,

9:25 often critical of Israel.

9:27 So, in the piece, he caveats

9:28 the evidence with that identifier descriptor of Eurommed.

9:33 But we can go on.

9:35 probably the biggest piece of information that he included

9:38 in the piece were allegations of trained dog uh sexual abuse.

9:45 So this became an absolute u this became a an absolute

9:52 attack against him on X from people like Deborah Lipstat.

9:56 We can put this next element up on the screen.

9:58 This is D5.

10:00 Uh this was Lipshat uh saying the New York Times I know who she was.

10:05 So she's she's a premier Holocaust scholar

10:08 who also was the Biden administration's anti-semitism.

10:12 Very very big supporter.

10:14 So like a center left center left.

10:16 Yep.

10:16 Yep.

10:16 Exactly.

10:17 Uh so they Adam Lewis Klein publishes this graphic that says

10:21 the New York Times published the anti-ionist dog rape liel.

10:25 Uh and Deborah Lipshack quote tweets this.

10:27 have they the New York Times

10:28 no sense of decency and journalistic responsibility.

10:32 Uh the Adam Lewis Klein Post compares the New

10:34 York Times to Dar Shurmer uh and includes Striker.

10:39 Yes.

10:39 And includes the reminder as uh one New York

10:43 correspondent from Herets notes that Striker was quote hanged.

10:49 Mhm.

10:48 I mean the fire Nick Kristoff social

10:50 media graphics were blazing all over X yesterday.

10:55 Continue this morning.

10:56 continuing this morning

10:57 from the Israeli government, too.

10:58 Let's be clear.

10:59 It's not just about commentators.

11:00 We're talking about the government of Israel, like the prime minister of Israel.

11:03 Yes.

11:04 And it there there have been efforts to debunk

11:07 over and over again the Kristoff story and and Saga,

11:09 I just want to toss this to you.

11:10 I read the story after reading the backlash to it.

11:15 So, I read the Yeah.

11:16 With all the caveats in your head.

11:18 Yes.

11:18 So, I read the story and I expected

11:20 it to be much different based on the debunking

11:25 because the debunking of the story is actually really

11:28 a debunking of a couple different pieces of it,

11:31 but not the broad picture of the story.

11:33 Yeah.

11:34 So, it it they're mad about Eurommed being cited, but actually

11:37 there's like one particular account that they call

11:40 into the question the motives of the Now, why are we going through all this?

11:43 Because what they're saying is that that's

11:44 evidence that the entire thing is made up.

11:46 And at the end of the day,

11:47 it's firsthand account from what is it 14 Palestinian men and women,

11:50 lawyers, human rights workers, family members,

11:52 the detailed account of rape and sexual assault with objects,

11:56 genital abuse, forc searches by mixed gender groups,

11:59 threats of rape used to intimidate detainees into silence

12:01 or cooperation with intelligence services victims including men,

12:04 women, and children as young as 15.

12:07 And yeah, go ahead.

12:08 Well, I was say it's not just Euromemed.

12:10 It's also Betsm.

12:11 There are other groups that are cited in here.

12:13 There are other people than the person who

12:14 has this this story uh that is horrific about

12:19 being raped by a dog who is as a prisoner

12:23 uh that the the identity of that person who goes on the record is then being

12:26 called into question by uh people who support

12:30 Israel and are trying to debunk the story

12:32 because they say this person is supportive of terrorism.

12:35 and they are again on the record in this New York Times piece,

12:39 but they are not the only source in the story.

12:41 And when I went into the piece after reading all of the debunking,

12:43 I expected it to be a story that was mostly based around

12:46 the EU Euromemed report and this one person's um this one person's claim.

12:52 No, as you just pointed out,

12:53 it is multiple human rights organizations reports and it is 14 different people

12:58 that Kristoff interviewed and then the New

12:59 York Times obviously vetted in their editorial process.

13:03 They have attorneys.

13:04 So, do I think the New York Times gets a lot of things wrong?

13:07 Yes.

13:08 This is a very hot story.

13:10 How about this?

13:10 Sue them then.

13:11 Go for it.

13:12 You know, that's my my critique is look,

13:15 Israel and everybody else, you say it's all fabricated.

13:18 Go for it.

13:19 All right.

13:19 Sue them.

13:20 Let's let's open it up for discovery.

13:22 Open yourselves up for discovery.

13:24 Do it in US court in in new in New York State.

13:27 All right.

13:27 Let's go.

13:28 Fine.

13:28 Let's see what you've got.

13:30 Sue Nick Kristoff and let's see what you've got.

13:33 And if what you've got is if you can open up all your files and you

13:37 can prove in each of these individual

13:38 cases that what they're saying is not true,

13:41 then you will win and you are correct

13:42 that this would be some fake blood liable andor hit job.

13:46 And what Kristoff can do is he can reveal what he was told,

13:50 the factchecking, you know,

13:52 that and all that stuff that went behind it and then we can see

13:55 for ourselves or they can jawbone on social

13:58 media and we will continue to see basically,

14:01 you know, calling this a blood liel or any of that.

14:04 uh any sort of like actual you know ability

14:07 to quote debunk doesn't you know you said something

14:10 about there about oh this is not just human

14:12 rights I I would put all that out of there and I would say to not just look

14:17 necessarily at the because that's other problem these people

14:20 are often such an information vacuum that this is

14:22 the only first time they ever heard anything do

14:25 we not all remember the case of the Israeli

14:27 soldiers who were literally on camera uh being

14:30 caught doing this to Palestinian prisoners who then were

14:32 jailbroken out of by their own citizens and celebrated.

14:36 That was called a blood label.

14:37 No.

14:37 Yeah, that's true though.

14:38 That actually happened.

14:39 And this is here's the thing.

14:41 It was a scandal inside of their country.

14:43 All you need to do is read Israeli media.

14:46 So, if you were to read that and have

14:48 knowledge of that and then read this, you're like,

14:50 "Okay, well, that kind of makes sense, doesn't it?" Uh,

14:52 and if you were to read not even just about

14:54 the conditions or some of these other things that happened,

14:57 you know, with a lot of Palestinian detainees in Israeli prison.

15:00 Now, at the end of the day, why do they care so much?

15:03 The reason that they care so much about this story is because

15:06 it makes them look like the same people that they're fighting, right?

15:12 And that's the pro for them.

15:13 The moral high ground is so important.

15:16 Whereas it's the predicate for us a it's the predicate not just for us

15:19 a for this declaration of we are a western country.

15:22 We're just like you.

15:24 We're blood brothers.

15:25 Right?

15:25 That's what they try to say.

15:27 It's not true.

15:27 Okay.

15:28 They don't operate like that.

15:29 They haven't been like that a long time now.

15:31 Are there a lot of people like that over there?

15:32 Absolutely.

15:33 Don't get me wrong.

15:34 But that does not mean that the government itself

15:36 with Ben Gavir and Smootrices and all of these people like,

15:40 you know, listen to the these liberal liberal Zionists will

15:42 even tell you these people are in a different league.

15:44 And they combine this with uh let's say how they operate

15:47 in the West Bank and some of these lynchings and other things that happen,

15:50 these killings of uh either US citizens or others and the settler movement.

15:55 And then you've got this treatment of some of these Palestinian prisoners

15:58 or detainees or this new law that they just passed about execute.

16:02 You got to add it all up in totality and you would say, "Wow,

16:05 you look a lot like Saudi Arabia actually,

16:07 which you claim you're a lot better than,

16:09 but maybe you're just the same." Uh, and if you are the same, well,

16:12 that's going to change the security calculus

16:13 because then we're going to start being like,

16:14 "Oh, this isn't an emotional relationship.

16:16 This is like what's in it for the both of us argument." And yeah,

16:19 maybe not a lot actually.

16:20 Well, and this is why Netanyahu is is right now

16:23 working to convince the American government to further crush Iran.

16:28 It's why he said in that same 60 Minutes interview that his plan is

16:31 to help Israel be weaned off his words uh US support within the next decade.

16:38 Now, Sucker, you could take the dog elements

16:40 out of the story and you could take Eurommed

16:42 out of the story and you would still have

16:44 uh a strong piece from Kristoff who also cites,

16:49 for example, the Committee to Protect Journalists,

16:51 which has surveyed 59 Palestinian journalists who

16:54 were released by Israeli authorities after October 7th.

16:58 Quote, 3% said they had been raped and 29%

17:01 29% said they had endured other forms of sexual violence.

17:06 you can remove the elements of the story that are being u

17:10 most the most high-profile elements of the story that are being picked

17:12 apart right now and you still have a a story that can't

17:17 really be uh picked apart in whole and this is why there's

17:23 a significant sign the these back backlashes like this one uh are

17:28 actually counterproductive for Netanyahu's purposes

17:32 and I really mean that for people

17:34 who support Israel backlashes like this one actually backfire because what they

17:39 do is ex people see the backlash then they go read the story

17:43 right and that's an an experience for them where they can

17:46 contrast and compare what they're being told with then what they see

17:50 in the story and it's one of those things I think one

17:53 of the big reasons s that support has declined for Israel in the United

17:57 States is that people because of social media not because of foreign

18:01 ops but because of a lot of accurate information that is bypassing

18:06 uh the media gatekeepers because of a lot of that they have

18:09 been able to compare what they were told for a really long time

18:13 with some actual videos, some actual testimonies.

18:17 And listen, people can make up their own minds.

18:21 Yeah, read it.

18:21 Go ahead.

18:22 You know, if you think it's read this Emily

18:24 presented the what they said is the criticism,

18:27 you make up your mind for yourself.

18:28 All right.

18:30 I'm I'll pres you know, look at the Israeli government's response and all that.

18:33 might find it very revealing.

18:34 I certainly do.

18:35 Take my own thoughts out of it, take her thoughts out of it.

18:37 You can go read it and you can decide what you think uh for yourself.

18:41 All right, let's move on.

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