You Can Get Arrested In Dubai For Saying This...

0:00 You say some dumb[ __] in the UAE, bro, online, even a threat.

0:03 You leave a negative Google review, you'll get fined.

0:06 One star review, you got fined.

0:07 You will get fined.

0:08 Potentially go to jail depending on how bad.

0:10 I love America, bro.

0:11 I'm born and raised here.

0:12 I love all my people.

0:13 But it's like when you go to a place like Dubai,

0:15 dude, the epidome of luxury is just next level.

0:26 All right, guys.

0:26 Got Signature Illy here today.

0:28 artist blowing up in Dubai.

0:30 Good to have you, man.

0:31 Thanks for having me, bro.

0:32 I think you're the first guest I've had from Dubai.

0:35 Yeah.

0:35 I mean, I I can't see a lot of people from the UAE coming out here right now.

0:39 I mean, it's paradise over there, right?

0:40 Yeah.

0:41 Yeah.

0:41 Why would you leave?

0:42 Yeah.

0:42 Depending on even um with the what the news is telling you right now, you know.

0:46 Yeah.

0:46 Let's get into that cuz you know,

0:48 Americans watch these news headlines and they see bombings and all this stuff.

0:52 What's actually going on?

0:53 Because you were there last week.

0:54 Yeah, I just Yeah, I just got back last week.

0:55 Um fortunate to be back.

0:57 It was a absolute um it's a nightmare getting out obviously, but um yeah, man.

1:03 It's uh I feel like it's not a place

1:06 you'd actually expect for stuff like that to happen.

1:09 Um being like super safe and and it is really safe, you know.

1:13 Uh the government did a great job on like mediating everything.

1:16 And they actually got the most um drones and missiles

1:19 launched at him out of all the Gulf States.

1:21 Wow.

1:22 Which is it's unusual to me.

1:23 Like what did Dubai do, right?

1:24 I mean, I know they're going for Abu Dhabi and stuff like that, but like

1:28 where I was staying on the Palm was

1:30 like like the hot spot like over my apartment.

1:33 I'm just seeing like

1:35 missiles and drones just getting intercepted and I'm

1:38 just like everyone's in shelter and stuff.

1:39 I'm just like on my balcony [laughter] just just in awe, you know?

1:42 Like if you die, you die, right?

1:43 But it's like I'm just like this is unbelievable, bro.

1:46 It's like[ __] you see on the news happening in like real life.

1:49 So you accepted death at that point,

1:51 you know?

1:51 Cuz it's like when it's your time, it's your time, right?

1:54 I'm not I don't really think death is what we're meant to believe it is.

1:58 That's a whole different story.

1:59 Um I used to fear it growing up.

2:01 Yeah.

2:01 Now I think it's more of an it's a transitional point.

2:04 Yeah.

2:04 I've accepted it.

2:05 Yeah.

2:05 I don't think you actually I don't think anyone actually ever dies.

2:08 It's just um we move forward like energy can't die per se, you know?

2:14 So I don't know.

2:15 I um I don't welcome it but I don't it's not something I fear and anything.

2:20 So, especially over there, bro,

2:21 like when [snorts] I get a phone call from my my aunt,

2:25 she's like, "Yo, I'm just letting you know, stay inside.

2:27 Like Abu Dhabi just got hit." This was the first day

2:29 I finished all like we had I had shows out there

2:32 and we finished all of our shows and then uh the future

2:35 shows that were coming up like that last like two weeks ago.

2:39 Cancelled all of them obviously.

2:40 Obviously, my my team safety was everything cuz I had

2:43 my engineer and other people from the US with me.

2:45 So, I sent them all back and I I said I'll just keep my original flight.

2:48 So, [laughter] I get a message saying, "Uh, Abu Dhabi just got hit." So,

2:52 everyone's like, "No one knows what's going on." Like, I just got a phone call.

2:56 So, like everyone's just living life.

2:58 I call my driver.

2:59 I'm like, "Yo, we're going to Abu Dhabi now." So,

3:02 it's like the bombs are happening there.

3:03 I I just wanted to like I don't know.

3:05 It's It might be I wanted to see [laughter] I wanted to see what was going on.

3:08 So, I'm like I call my driver.

3:09 I'm like, "We're going to Abu Dhabi now." He's like,

3:11 "Didn't did you not hear attacks just happened there?" I'm like, "Exactly.

3:14 Hurry up.

3:14 Like, we got to go." Wow.

3:16 So then I get to Abu Dhabi and then I'm on the palm palm jra

3:19 and something in my head's like I feel like the palm's going to get hit.

3:23 I I'm not a negative person by any means,

3:25 but like something was just telling me a palm's going to get hit.

3:27 I have people with like residents, all my resident friends there,

3:29 they're like you're out of your mind.

3:31 Like the palm is all tourist is not going to get hit.

3:34 Like you're you're smoking something.

3:35 And I'm like all right, whatever.

3:37 So I get to Abu Dhabi.

3:39 [laughter] It's just beautiful at the Emirates Palace.

3:43 like you don't hear any I a missile flew over us and then they like fell

3:46 in the desert and I have it like

3:47 I was like recording everything from my glasses.

3:49 This random[ __] was just like going over us and I was like wow.

3:52 So I get to the Emirates Palace and everything's just kosher.

3:56 Like there's a wedding going on down there.

3:57 We have like the full balcony and this nice Indian restaurant.

4:00 I get a phone call from uh Chris, my friend that lives like at 5 palm.

4:05 He's like, "Bro, you're not gonna[ __] believe this shit." sends me

4:09 videos of literal like missiles just

4:11 getting intercepted and like um they're saying

4:14 it was it was um debris like scrap shrap metal or whatever

4:19 but it was definitely like a small drone that fell on the palm and

4:23 it was like a giant explosion.

4:24 So the palm ended up getting hit.

4:26 So then like think about like when my friends were telling me

4:28 earlier they're like yeah it's not going to get hit and then I

4:30 and I'm like the palm's getting like hit right now and I

4:33 call my driver I'm like we got to get back to the palm.

4:35 Jeez.

4:35 So, cuz I live on the palm, so I just want to make sure everything's good.

4:38 So, the Fairmont got hit.

4:41 Um,

4:41 and yeah, bro, it was just it was a movie.

4:44 That's nuts, dude.

4:45 Insane, bro.

4:45 Have you always had that six sense where you predict certain things?

4:48 Yes.

4:48 Um, and I It's not stuff I usually

4:51 want to be right about because that's like why

4:53 the why would I ever want to be right about like my home getting hit by a drone,

4:57 right?

4:58 I Something was just telling me and it was so far-fetched.

5:01 Like, why would the palm get hit?

5:02 like there's downtown, there's the Burj,

5:04 there's a lot of like um civilian infrastructure there.

5:08 Um but that was so early like um I got

5:10 back from Germany cuz I I had to go handle some, you know, music stuff there.

5:14 I get back and literally that next week after the shows,

5:18 dude, everything just like from February 28th,

5:21 it was just all you hear is just like shock

5:24 waves in the ground and things just like cuz I

5:25 told I was I was with my girl at the time

5:27 there and I was like um that was an explosion.

5:32 you know, like for sure.

5:33 And she's like, "Oh, no.

5:34 It could have been construction." I'm like,

5:35 "What kind of[ __] construction is that?" Dubai is under construction.

5:37 You hear construction all day.

5:39 But dude, it was I'm like,

5:41 "That was an explosion." And then all you hear is just like boom.

5:44 Like just like it's not some like stuff you'd be like,

5:47 "We're not expected to hear that from the US."

5:50 And then just just seeing all that, bro.

5:52 It was

5:53 Dude, that is nuts.

5:53 It was mindboggling.

5:54 You're on the front lines.

5:56 Absolutely.

5:56 But honestly, bro, like as much as all like the the interceptions and the bombs,

6:01 I personally think like the UAE is much safer than here in the US.

6:08 Even during wartime, I would rather be there.

6:11 I mean, I could see that argument just and I'm a proud American.

6:14 I love America, bro.

6:15 I love this country, everything it stands for.

6:17 But I'm telling you,

6:18 even with all like this uncertainty and and regional tensions,

6:22 10 out of 10 times, I would 100% still be in the UAE.

6:27 You could make that argument because our borders were open.

6:30 Yeah.

6:30 We don't know who's inside the country.

6:31 No, UAE.

6:32 You kind of know who's there, right?

6:34 Yeah.

6:34 Absolutely.

6:34 Cuz they they don't play games.

6:35 The government's like very efficient and and that's why it makes

6:38 me think like how are we like I got to ask Sh.

6:42 How the[ __] are we the best country in the world?

6:44 Once again, I love America, bro.

6:46 I love it.

6:47 I'm I'm born and raised here.

6:48 I love all my people.

6:49 Love like what we stand for.

6:51 But it's like when you go to a place like Dubai

6:53 or like anyone in Saudi or like you know the UAE and stuff,

6:56 dude, the like the epidome of luxury is just next level.

7:01 Like food, it's not that expensive.

7:04 It's world class.

7:05 Like we have all these chemicals and all this[ __] here.

7:07 Like food coloring red 40.

7:09 Like what what's going on?

7:11 Like over there all that shit's banned.

7:13 So it's like bro, I'll eat three.

7:14 Like I barely eat in the US cuz it's like I love food and all

7:17 but it's like I just don't trust it and I have a small appetite.

7:19 Yeah.

7:20 Over there, dude.

7:20 I'll eat three, four times a day and I'll lose weight.

7:23 It's it's wild.

7:24 You know what I'm saying?

7:25 So it's like I don't know.

7:26 I I would rather still be there to be honest.

7:28 I think we're the best in certain categories, but not overall.

7:31 Yeah.

7:31 And that's where like the thing like people get

7:33 mad when you say that, but it's like dude,

7:34 there has to be some sort of self-awareness.

7:36 Yeah.

7:36 Let's be honest.

7:37 I mean, I think we're one of the best when it comes to free speech, dude.

7:40 Oh, there's another thing.

7:42 That's what we're like that that's what we could be number one in.

7:45 You get saying some[ __] in the UK get cooked.

7:48 You say some dumb[ __] in the UAE,

7:51 bro online like even a threat or like I have a friend over there that like one

7:56 of like like his like his wife and some

7:58 other dude's wife was drunk and buddy's wife said,

8:01 "You're a terrible wife to the other female." She goes to the police.

8:06 This girl gets arrested just for saying that.

8:08 Just saying you're a terrible wife.

8:09 What?

8:09 So it's like, dude, that's one thing.

8:11 You can't even talk[ __] over.

8:12 You can't talk[ __] there, bro.

8:13 You start a fight, straight jail.

8:16 You say something stupid about like the government

8:18 or if you you leave a negative Google review.

8:21 I'm serious, bro.

8:22 You'll get fined.

8:23 One star review, you get fined.

8:25 You will get fined.

8:25 Potentially go to jail depending on how bad.

8:27 What if the restaurant just wasn't good, though, bro?

8:29 Take it with you.

8:30 __] was ass.

8:32 Wow.

8:32 It was [laughter] ass.

8:33 You know, like I've seen like people were

8:35 trying to be funny like at the Fairmont

8:37 like uh they were leaving negative Google reviews like one out of five stars

8:41 like no air defense windows like one out of five stars my my room got

8:44 hit with a rocket like it's that's funny you know like no one I hope

8:48 no one takes that[ __] seriously but if you say something stupid like out

8:51 of pocket about people the like forget

8:53 the government like that's obviously you say something bad

8:56 about them you know like it's it's I that's why it's like it's a good

8:58 place to be but you just got to be like a law-abiding citizen per se.

9:02 You can't have that degen[ __] like what

9:04 we're used to in America over there, you know?

9:06 How's the night night scene out there?

9:08 Can you go out pretty late,

9:09 dude?

9:09 It's insane.

9:10 They party every single every on a Monday.

9:13 It feels like it's Friday out.

9:16 What?

9:15 There are people there's traffic till like 3:00 or 4 in the morning.

9:18 I don't know.

9:19 It's kind of like LA.

9:20 Like, where the[ __] are these people going?

9:22 Yeah.

9:22 But they definitely like it's it's not like um unnecessary traffic.

9:26 There's so much construction, bro.

9:28 They have 24-hour shifts.

9:30 So it'll be like all day people are working

9:32 in like three separate shifts because they're growing so fast.

9:35 Wow, dude.

9:35 It's in I don't even know where like all these people are going to live.

9:38 Yeah.

9:38 Like you know what I'm saying?

9:38 So many people are moving there.

9:39 They can't keep up with the demand.

9:41 It's insane.

9:41 But like I think most people they it's just

9:44 I don't know.

9:44 Everyone in their mom's a real estate agent there.

9:47 Yeah.

9:47 I've seen a lot on Instagram.

9:48 Oh, dude.

9:48 It's literally it's all it is.

9:49 Like it's you talk to like I'm sure like

9:52 50% of people you'll talk to be like, "Oh, yeah.

9:54 I'm I'm real estate.

9:54 Like you want anything?

9:55 Like come with me." And like they get a crazy fat commission there, bro.

9:59 It's like 20%.

10:01 Damn.

10:01 So, if they sell a million dollar house, they get 200

10:04 200k.

10:04 Holy crap.

10:05 Yeah.

10:05 I was looking at a villa out there and um this dude was on my ass.

10:08 And then I cuz like the villa was somewhere in the four

10:11 or five m and then I found out about the the commission.

10:16 I'm like, "Of course he's on my ass." It's like out here it's like 1%.

10:19 Yeah.

10:20 Oh, like 20% of Yeah.

10:21 It's like they split it out in the pirate if he sells a villa.

10:25 Oh my god.

10:25 Of like normal money.

10:26 Like

10:27 I'd be doing that[ __] [laughter] I'll take a million for selling one house.

10:30 Yeah, for real, dude.

10:31 So, yeah, man.

10:32 Dubai was definitely a trip, you know.

10:34 Yeah, that's what I have.

10:35 There's a lot of benefits, too.

10:36 I I love the tax laws there.

10:37 Yeah.

10:37 Yeah.

10:38 The tax that's what they reel you in with, bro.

10:39 It's very expensive.

10:40 To go back on your thing with the night life,

10:42 like, bro, there's parties till like 5 in the morning.

10:45 I stay at 5 Palm, which is like my residence home there, and it's like, bro,

10:49 they party seven days a week till 4:00 or 5 in the morning.

10:52 So, you just go downstairs and party.

10:53 It's insane.

10:54 And they have like you you only think you're in the UAE.

10:56 It's all like Russians and Europeans and[ __] I barely saw any Americans there.

11:01 Really?

11:01 The Americans I did see, I automatically become friends with them.

11:04 I'm like, "Yo, you from the States?

11:05 No way.

11:06 Dap them up." Like, you know, I met some artists out there, too.

11:09 Um, so it's just like, yeah, it's

11:11 music scene's pretty solid out there.

11:12 Music scene solid.

11:13 Um, they if you have like that's like when I do my shows out there,

11:17 um, you definitely feel a much different like approach on people.

11:20 Like I'm very like loved out there.

11:22 Like and it's it's like when I say me,

11:24 it's like it's like people just have a new level of respect for everyone, right?

11:28 And maybe that's kind of like a thing like you know like

11:30 in America like you know when you know everyone's armed you're like oh hey

11:33 how you doing so everyone's going to wave back right so it's like

11:36 same thing over there like no one wants to get in trouble bro

11:39 they were like oh hey how you doing you know

11:40 I feel that yeah you get in trouble out there good luck

11:42 bro you're so cooked [laughter] you know it's so

11:46 bad like people think like uh and that's the thing

11:49 love freedom love it all but sometimes I feel like there's a such thing as too

11:54 much freedom because people can act up I

11:56 understand people get upset it's fine But bro,

11:58 you say some dumb[ __] out there like have the entitlement of America,

12:04 you're so[ __]

12:06 Yeah, it's so bad.

12:07 Part of me likes it.

12:09 Yeah, I love it.

12:10 Cuz it shows there's consequences.

12:11 Yes.

12:11 Yes.

12:12 Out here.

12:12 I mean,

12:13 like the too much freedom thing.

12:14 I think it's too much, which is crazy to say, right?

12:17 It's wild.

12:17 And I love it.

12:18 Like I'm I love like saying whatever,

12:20 but like when you live on both sides and you realize,

12:23 okay, like, oh, I don't want my freedom, get taken.

12:25 But like dude, if you're not like uh like

12:27 a piece of[ __] it shouldn't really affect you.

12:30 Exactly.

12:30 You know what I'm saying?

12:30 If you're like if you don't care if you mind your own business,

12:33 you do your own thing,

12:33 you have love for other people, and you know,

12:35 you just um you embrace all like that that frequency, dude.

12:40 People would thrive out in Dubai, even during a war zone.

12:43 Like I'm telling you, I'm trying to go back like soon.

12:45 Like I I don't like Yeah.

12:47 The whole the whole like, you know, people like missiles getting intercepted.

12:50 It

12:51 whatever.

12:52 Yeah.

12:52 You know what?

12:53 It's that good that like I'd rather be there during wartime than in the US.

12:57 I mean, dude, let's be honest.

12:58 If you walked in LA with what you're wearing right now, you would get robbed.

13:02 Yeah.

13:02 Yeah.

13:03 But I'm in the right place, right time.

13:04 Thank God.

13:05 Thank the universe for all that.

13:06 Um, but yeah, I don't take that for granted.

13:08 And usually I try to make good like intuitive decisions.

13:10 But the fact that you can even say that like

13:13 that can happen and it will it can happen.

13:15 But over there, you could rock all your jewelry, right?

13:18 Where you could leave I could take the roly off, leave it somewhere.

13:20 And like people do that[ __] just for like testing stuff out.

13:23 I mean, bro, there's there's like crime everywhere.

13:27 Like UAE is not going to probably say anything about it,

13:31 which is fine, but like it's petty crime.

13:33 It's not like over here, bro.

13:34 Like people you'll get robbed in broad daylight here.

13:37 Yeah.

13:37 And there will be no like the cops won't give a[ __] No, they don't care.

13:41 You know what I'm saying?

13:42 I heard you could leave your watch at a restaurant out there.

13:44 Yeah.

13:44 Yeah.

13:44 You can leave whatever.

13:45 What'll happen is like they will do a full

13:47 like investigation case to see like where you are.

13:50 There's CTV everywhere.

13:51 So, just to return you an item, like if I lose this ring,

13:54 they'll be like, "Oh, this guy had this ring on.

13:55 We have to find out where he came." Like, wow.

13:57 There's cameras everywhere.

13:58 There's cameras everywhere.

13:59 Do you like that or There it is.

14:01 Right.

14:01 Like I'm over there, bro.

14:03 And I like I'm not like a degenerate by heart.

14:07 Like even here, right?

14:09 But it's like I will that too much freedom thing.

14:12 Like things are legal.

14:12 Like if the dispensary is open, you smoke weed, whatever.

14:15 Like bro, dude,

14:17 you can't smoke out there.

14:18 you don't even want to like think about that[ __]

14:20 It's just like there's so much more to live for.

14:23 Like the the vibration in the air is just different.

14:26 Like everyone's just trying to get it.

14:28 So it's like when you're sur it's like people would compare it to Miami.

14:31 __] no.

14:32 You know, maybe like with like the like no one cares about supercars there.

14:35 Like every people care about the license plate.

14:37 I heard that.

14:38 Yeah.

14:38 So it's like if you drive a Rolls

14:40 whatever you drive like I see wraiths everywhere, bro.

14:43 everywhere.

14:43 There's like supercars, Lambo, Ferrari, trucks.

14:45 This the real flex and there's like five-digit number plates.

14:49 The real flex is when you see like a two or three

14:52 digit number plate or if you see a onedigit number plate, bro,

14:55 how much does that cost?

14:56 So, it's like uh like if you get like the number eight,

14:58 which is like my number over there.

14:59 You have the number eight?

15:00 Yeah.

15:00 No, no, no, no.

15:01 Like that's the number that I would want.

15:03 [laughter]

15:03 Oh my god.

15:04 I was going to say, damn.

15:06 Um eight.

15:06 So, let's say like the rolls cost you a million.

15:09 That number plate would be like 10 to 30.

15:12 So it would cost 10x the car.

15:13 10 to 30x the car.

15:15 Holy crap.

15:15 At least at least.

15:17 So it's like they have like[ __] you money, bro.

15:19 That's like that's like cuz everyone has money out there.

15:21 So you need more than money to have like game.

15:24 So it's like cuz they expect you to have money, right?

15:26 So if you have money now it's like everyone

15:28 has money like you could still be like cornball.

15:31 Yeah.

15:32 You know.

15:32 Was that the cuz I know you have a business side of you too.

15:34 Was that kind of the main reason you went out there for business?

15:37 Main reason?

15:38 Well, well, music in like in the music industry.

15:40 Like I love it out there.

15:41 Like obviously like the living purposes and stuff and I

15:43 definitely like when I like have a family like I'm still

15:47 thinking about that like I want to live out there

15:48 in the winter but like how would that work with a kid,

15:51 you know, with school and[ __] you know,

15:53 like they would have to be and my, you know,

15:54 my my wife at the time has to be like super understanding,

15:57 you know, with all this stuff.

15:59 Um, so yeah, I mean, bro, like it's just it's just wild times, you know?

16:05 Like I think Dubai, like I still have my wing stops and um

16:09 is that in Dubai or in there?

16:10 No, that's I'm actually looking into like buying the UAE branches over there.

16:13 Wow.

16:14 But like that's just to add on to, you know, stuff,

16:16 but most of my stores are in Chicago and like Indiana and stuff.

16:19 And I have a super team that I've developed over a decade, bro.

16:23 Like I bought my first store when I was 21.

16:25 Wow.

16:25 Working open to close every single day.

16:28 all day all like didn't take a day off and that's

16:30 how I like got the essence of business and brought

16:33 like you know learned you know like being in the in a hospitality

16:37 industry and just making sure it's like it's bigger

16:39 than the food and the transaction it's an experience like

16:42 from this moment they walk in to the moment they walk out

16:44 it's it's more than what they eating is probably 15 20

16:47 minutes but what about like the whole hour they're in there

16:49 that's what I noticed living in Vegas

16:51 yeah restaurants are competitive out here

16:53 yes dude so you got to stand out

16:54 dude it's even crazier and like Vegas being asospitable

16:57 as it is and the service is all right.

16:59 It's good, bro.

17:00 It's not compare.

17:01 Like, that's why I want you to go to Dubai

17:05 and just watch the service from like anyone from working

17:09 inside the bathroom to like uh the top manager there.

17:12 They're all going to show you the same amount of love and apprec It's just like

17:16 it's just next level, bro.

17:18 Like everything.

17:19 It's like, you know, the experience is great,

17:20 but it's like you just compare everything to that cuz

17:22 it's like I we have high shoes to fill.

17:25 It's the US, damn it.

17:26 You know, we're supposed to be the best at everything.

17:28 Then you come back here, I landed in Jersey.

17:29 I was like, Jersey, dirty Jersey.

17:32 Oh, actually, I landed in JFK,

17:33 then went to Jersey, and I'm just like like drove.

17:35 And no disrespect to my my Jersey people, but bro,

17:38 I went to like my my driver took the wrong

17:40 turn from uh we were supposed to go to Parramis.

17:42 I went to Elizabeth.

17:43 Oh god.

17:44 Bro, imagine coming from Dubai.

17:46 Just like got off the A380, like took a shower on board,

17:49 you know, getting I'm just like all good, ready to like be back in the US.

17:52 So grateful.

17:53 Just like come out.

17:54 It's foggy as[ __] cold as[ __] And I

17:57 go to Elizabeth and I'm physically getting sick.

18:00 I'm like, where the[ __] are we, dude?

18:03 This isn't There's no way.

18:04 Yeah, the vibration was too low.

18:06 Oh my god.

18:07 I'm like, take me back now.

18:08 Like, I I don't even care if there's missiles falling, bro.

18:11 Yeah, Jerseyy's uh and I love Jersey, don't get me wrong.

18:13 I have a lovehate with Jersey.

18:16 Yeah,

18:15 but certain cities, like whenever I fly out of New York,

18:17 I know it's going to be a miserable experience.

18:20 Like that airport is just Have you been to that airport?

18:22 Yeah, that's the only airport I fly out of.

18:23 A lot of international flights leave out of Newark,

18:25 but everyone's so miserable there.

18:27 It's like,

18:27 damn, man.

18:28 I usually fly United only um from Newark.

18:30 Yeah.

18:30 So, they have like a hub there.

18:31 That's their hub.

18:32 Yeah.

18:32 So, it's like usually it's more it's it's seasoned, but Yeah.

18:36 Dude,

18:36 you travel a lot.

18:37 What's the best airline in your opinion?

18:38 Oh, by far, hands down, not even a comparison, uh Emirates.

18:43 Wow.

18:42 Thousand%, bro.

18:43 And Singapore is cool.

18:44 Ethiod's cool.

18:46 I mean, bro, United is just ass.

18:49 Is terrible,

18:49 you know?

18:49 But it's like I thought they were supposed to be

18:51 one of the best in the US, you know?

18:52 Like what is a good airline in America?

18:55 JetBlue.

18:57 Like I do JSX out here.

18:58 What's JSX?

18:58 Jet Sweet X.

18:59 It's like semi-private.

19:01 It sounds like it.

19:02 Yeah, but it's only West Coast.

19:03 Yeah, but you see like with with any commercial airline like

19:06 you're toast on commercial,

19:07 dude.

19:07 It's cooked.

19:08 First class isn't worth it.

19:09 No, it's it's terrible.

19:10 Like they have the trip 7 that flies from here to LA or Chicago to LA on United.

19:15 Bro, it's so bad.

19:17 I don't know how they can even call themselves that.

19:19 Yeah.

19:19 Emirates, even on economy, you're going to get a better experience

19:22 on Emirates economy than first class in the US.

19:25 100%.

19:26 Billion%.

19:26 Not even close.

19:27 Yeah.

19:27 If you go business, that's next level.

19:28 If you fly first class,

19:29 if you're ever privileged enough to fly first class on Emirates

19:32 on the Game Changer suite or any of the dude, it's

19:36 I got to That's on my buck.

19:37 I've never been on Emirates.

19:38 Yeah, I've done Singapore.

19:39 Singapore was Singapore is nice.

19:40 You know, they have like uh like they have the Ethi Residence uh from JFK,

19:45 which is cool, but that's only one seat.

19:46 But bro, I'm telling you, Emirates,

19:48 like from the service to the food to just like that frequency,

19:52 it's just unbelievable.

19:54 When I go to Dubai or or Sa, do they go to Saudi too?

19:57 Um, I don't I think they they do.

19:58 They have like the biggest hub.

19:59 I'm sure they go to Riad.

20:00 I want to go to Riyad.

20:01 They pay Mr.

20:01 Beast 160 mil

20:03 for what?

20:04 Just to promote Saudi Arabia.

20:06 Yeah, [laughter] that made

20:07 You know what's crazy?

20:07 The UAE and Saudi have uh crazy beef.

20:10 Oh, do they?

20:11 Yeah.

20:11 It's funny because it's like if you have any business in the UAE and this is

20:15 like uh this is this is kind of confidential but it's cool like this is wild.

20:20 So if you have um say you have like a business opportunity in the UAE

20:25 and then you go up to like the the shake or like the shakes's

20:27 people like the people that run the the governance and you're like well actually

20:31 I have an offer from Saudi from this much they'll be like do it now.

20:35 They'll be like do it now like just just sign him up now.

20:37 Whatever it is we'll hit the details later.

20:39 You mention Saudi, they just they just always want to them.

20:42 Yeah, bro.

20:42 I thought I thought the Gulf States were all in like cahoots.

20:45 Yeah, I thought they were alliance.

20:46 Oh, yeah.

20:46 I mean, I n they they they beef.

20:48 I think competition is good, though.

20:50 Yeah, compet competition's great when you're from like out here,

20:54 but over there, bro, like it's different.

20:56 [laughter] They're cut.

20:58 Yeah, bro.

20:58 Of course.

20:59 Of course.

20:59 You kind of have to choose one or the other.

21:01 I mean, I don't think so.

21:02 Like in in our position, absolutely not.

21:04 But when you're doing like bigger

21:06 like billions of dollars of like infrastructure,

21:08 I'm sure like they would like take care of you more like one or the other.

21:13 Yeah.

21:13 You know, but I mean I love like you know shout out to Saudi too, you know.

21:16 But yeah, bro, the UAE is the governance there is like more my style.

21:20 Like they're just like they take care of their people.

21:22 I feel that.

21:22 You know what I'm saying?

21:23 So when you're just walking around are

21:24 there just rich people just casually chilling.

21:26 You won't even know who's rich, right?

21:27 Cuz it's like if you live in the palm like bro the most

21:32 basic apartment of the palms and be like a million bucks dollars, right?

21:35 USA.

21:36 So it's like the most basic.

21:37 So it's like if you think about it,

21:38 every single person you see on the palm that lives there is a millionaire.

21:42 Wow.

21:42 You know, but it's like it's everyone's so desensitized to money.

21:45 It's like people are out here flexing, right?

21:47 You know, buying Lambos, all don't get me wrong, people buy Lambos there, too.

21:50 It's all good.

21:50 But bro, it's like not the same.

21:52 It's like flex.

21:53 They don't even like people aren't even paying attention to your car.

21:56 Wow.

21:56 They don't they don't give a[ __] about what you're driving.

22:00 You could pull up in a Toyota or you could pull up in in in a rolls truck.

22:04 Same outlook because like that person with the Toyota

22:06 could have like a $20 million villa

22:08 and they usually don't.

22:09 Usually the cars match the house that people live in.

22:11 But

22:12 the people it's actually the same thing spreads all over the planet.

22:15 The people that are trying to act rich will always drive like the nicest cars.

22:18 That happens in Dubai.

22:19 That happens everywhere.

22:20 That's just like I feel like that's just like staple.

22:22 That's like a human nature kind of trying to fit in type of

22:25 thing.

22:25 Yeah.

22:25 And I feel bad for that cuz it's like people will eventually realize that

22:29 if you're not happy at the $10 an hour mark, dude,

22:32 you will never be happy at the $100 million mark, you know?

22:35 Like I've always been so grateful and fortunate for every

22:38 like I I tell all of my team members like,

22:40 yo, you can't take a dime of business for granted.

22:44 Not even a penny, right?

22:45 These people can go anywhere else.

22:46 So that's kind of just like like rolled over to my entire life.

22:51 like every single thing is just an experience and like

22:54 you're you play a different character in someone else's life,

22:57 you know, a different character in everyone else's life, right?

22:59 So, I try to be like as um I try to make it

23:02 about like the other person like I it's so much bigger than me.

23:04 Yeah.

23:05 You know, so with that mixed in with like Dubai,

23:08 you could thrive in a place like that cuz Dubai is at the end

23:11 of the day it's beautiful and all but it's a me me like

23:15 people get anxiety there because it's like how

23:16 do I get bigger than the other people?

23:18 But that shouldn't be the mindset.

23:20 It's like how can I collectively how do

23:22 we collectively grow with the people, you know?

23:25 So, it's like that's why I love it there.

23:26 Like, bro, I I'm friends with all of like the employees everywhere like

23:30 the most like from like people clean

23:32 the bathrooms to management to the people servings.

23:34 Like, I know everyone on a name to name basis like hug to hug basis.

23:37 Like if I walk into five palm,

23:39 literally there'll be like the first 15 minutes is just me hugging like

23:43 at least a hundred people.

23:44 Like they're all walking up to me like, "Oh,

23:45 Siobh." And I'm just showing cuz I I talk

23:49 to them like I'll ask them how they're doing.

23:50 I I rarely talk about myself like in a public setting like that, you know?

23:54 So, it's like it's just Yeah, bro.

23:56 That's that's a rare trait, I feel like, to treat everyone the same these days.

23:59 Yeah.

23:59 I don't know why.

24:00 That's weird.

24:01 People are trying to social climb.

24:02 People are comparing themselves because of social media.

24:04 But you can social climb and not be a dick.

24:07 Yeah, I I agree.

24:08 I agree.

24:08 You know, like I could still be like doing my thing and be like, "Hey, man.

24:10 Like, how's like how are you doing today?

24:12 Like like tell me about yourself." and then still be a badass

24:15 and still like for the rest of my days like have that rockstar mentality,

24:18 do whatever, but like still like the person in front

24:20 of you is a person in front of you, you know?

24:22 Yeah.

24:22 It's a human being.

24:23 Yeah.

24:23 People like that.

24:25 Some people think they're just better, dude.

24:26 Let's be honest.

24:27 You know, they they make a certain amount of money.

24:29 They especially places like LA, Vegas, not Vegas, but LA, Miami, dude.

24:33 It's just like Miami.

24:34 Even New York.

24:35 New York, dude.

24:35 Chicago, too.

24:37 Chicago be nice.

24:37 Chicago's like they have some good chill over there, dude.

24:40 I love people in Chicago.

24:41 There's[ __] everywhere.

24:42 Yeah,

24:43 right.

24:43 Like New York, you know, um Miami, it's all just like a bankroll thing though.

24:49 It's like what if like tomorrow like all finances go to[ __]

24:53 right?

24:53 What are people going to like flex per se?

24:56 Like what do you have like if if all like monetary means nothing,

24:59 everyone's back to like square one.

25:01 Like how do you like stand out?

25:02 I'd love to see how that played out.

25:03 How do you stand out?

25:04 Love to see a movie on that.

25:05 You know what I'm saying?

25:05 Like all right, now it's like I had the the most rich baddest people.

25:09 What now?

25:10 You have no money.

25:10 like what did you actually bring to people's lives?

25:12 So, it's like the people that were

25:14 at that position that took care of everyone below them,

25:16 I feel like they're going to thrive and and succeed cuz

25:19 they took care of and then it just goes off like

25:24 um one of those like what's the thing those um bartering things?

25:27 Yeah, that's how it used to be.

25:28 Yeah, that's how it used to be.

25:29 Cuz now it's like now money doesn't you know mean a thing.

25:33 It'd be a cool little simulation.

25:34 I don't know if we'd want that as a society cuz it'd be a total like

25:37 No, it'd be a shock.

25:38 It'd be bad.

25:39 Yeah, it'd be bad cuz a lot of people

25:40 tie their identity to their money to their bank account.

25:43 Dude, it's everything.

25:44 You know what I'm saying?

25:44 Like they don't care about the way they look.

25:45 They're just like, "Oh, well, I made this much." And it's like, "Bro, great."

25:49 That's a piece of the puzzle.

25:50 Yeah.

25:50 It's like such a small It's a big

25:52 piece because like that can it doesn't buy happiness,

25:55 but it can eliminate a lot of your stress.

25:58 Most stress is financial and like the other half is like

26:01 relationships and stuff like that and making sure you have a good,

26:03 you know, good people around you.

26:05 So, I mean, yeah, bro.

26:07 It's a weird world we live in.

26:08 It doesn't matter if you're in like in Dubai or Chicago or Vegas or whatever.

26:12 It's just like it's because of social media.

26:13 We're all connected now.

26:14 Yeah.

26:14 You know.

26:15 Yeah.

26:15 In terms of happiness.

26:16 I I I think it's fleeting.

26:17 I try to chase fulfillment.

26:19 Yeah.

26:19 Yeah.

26:19 And that's like stuff that actually matters.

26:21 Like you you hear about all these people that like have these big ass companies,

26:27 100, 200, they sell their companies for like a billion bucks.

26:30 Then these people are depressed cuz it's like, "Oh, I have a billion bucks,

26:33 but now what?" like that [clears throat] was

26:35 my fulfillment like that I was doing something.

26:37 That's why it's like money won't buy that.

26:39 No.

26:39 But it buys you like privilege and it buys you like the honor

26:43 of like see I like how can I take money and make other people rich?

26:46 I'm at that point in my life now you

26:48 know like it's easy to make money for yourself.

26:50 But if I can take like 10 families that work with me at Wingstop Music and I

26:55 can change like 10 bloodlines and turn them

26:57 into like millionaires that's like huge for me.

26:59 You know what I'm saying?

27:00 And like cuz it's like once again it's easy

27:01 to do anything for yourself but if you can multiply that it is a great feeling.

27:06 I love it bro

27:07 whether it's employees or friends and you can help them make some money

27:10 like in the music and well music's a whole different industry like doing

27:13 music and then going back into saho

27:15 mode for Wingstop it's literally like non-stop

27:17 like I I'll have like I I'll have conversations with like complex GQ

27:21 and like all these things and immediately like like thanks have a good day.

27:24 One of my managers call me I'm like hey what's up Jose what's

27:26 going on like all tell me like let's get a group chat right now.

27:29 So, it's like dealing with like all these like shows and like

27:32 whole like my entire management team and just going down be like,

27:35 "Hey, one of our cooks is angry.

27:37 All right, let's get him on a video

27:38 chat." Like my normal basic like cook and you

27:40 know people have been with me for years

27:42 like turnaround business and turnaround time in food, bro.

27:45 It's quick.

27:46 Yeah.

27:46 You know what I'm saying?

27:47 I've had people work with me for like the better half of decade now, you know?

27:52 So, that's you know that's it's so much bigger than money.

27:56 Yeah.

27:55 You know, because it's like I make sure everyone's good.

27:57 Yeah.

27:57 Yeah.

27:57 You started when you were 21 owning a a wing shop.

27:59 How many do you got now?

28:01 Um almost 10.

28:03 So one a year.

28:04 Yeah.

28:04 So it's like I actually well it was crazy cuz I had one store for six six

28:07 or seven years of it and all these new

28:09 stores was in the last like 2 three years.

28:10 But it's like I had opportunities to open like 20 30 50 of them.

28:14 But I'm like bro I'm big in the community.

28:17 So I do like a lot of like community stuff.

28:20 Like Wings Giving is something I started, you know,

28:22 we close on Thanksgiving at all the stores,

28:24 but we're open for three hours and everyone

28:26 is just welcome to come eat for free.

28:28 I I pay for everything out of pocket.

28:29 So, I've been doing that for nine years now.

28:30 And then we do it like a toy drive for like,

28:33 you know, the the cancer ward at the ped pediatrics hospital.

28:37 And we just implement this at all the stores.

28:39 So, I'm like, okay, if I'm doing all these community things,

28:41 you know, we've take care of our first responders, all this stuff.

28:44 I don't want to just open up like 10, 20, 30 stores.

28:47 I want each store to make an impact, you know, like it's Yeah.

28:51 It's once again it's bigger than the money.

28:53 Also, when you scale too quick, like it's tough, you know?

28:56 But now I'm like everything that's happened in my life like is from music

29:00 to this like I I went through all the[ __] So now I'm like I'm like ready.

29:05 I'm like built for it now, you know,

29:06 with everything going on like with like music's a full-time job.

29:10 Wings like business is a full-time job.

29:12 So, it's just like just being completely present and not

29:15 like getting like too caught up in the moment.

29:19 I just know everything's going to, you know, happen in phases.

29:21 So, just let it flow.

29:22 Yeah.

29:22 You got a great energy to you.

29:24 Do you think navigating the music industry

29:25 for 10 years has desensitized you at all?

29:28 100%.

29:29 Dude, it's crazy cuz like I have to be so cutthroat

29:32 in the US cuz I deal with[ __] People you've dealt with.

29:36 Yes, dude.

29:36 labels and people from like videographers and all this like people

29:39 are just like I don't know what their sense of time is.

29:42 I just don't understand.

29:44 So I have to be very cutthroat on my expectations

29:46 and what I want and I'm going to get it.

29:49 My team is the same way that it took me a while to build

29:51 that team that understand what I want and what we're doing as a collective.

29:55 So I have to be like borderline[ __] right?

29:59 But then I go to Dubai and the whole culture is different there, you know?

30:04 Like I if I'm like my cutthroat self, I'm not trying to be a dick,

30:07 but they'll like there'll be people that will start crying, bro.

30:09 Like guys, yeah.

30:10 So, I'm just like, "Oh shit." Like they're dear friends of mine.

30:13 So, I'll give them a hug.

30:14 Like, yo, I'm I'm sorry, bro.

30:15 I'm not I'm not even an apologizing type,

30:17 but like my apologies cuz like I realize like I'm I've dealt with so

30:21 much[ __] in the music industry that I have to be like cutthroat here.

30:25 I can't do that out there cuz it's like it's not the same.

30:27 And now, and then I have to tell them something once and they get it.

30:30 But, bro, it's to that.

30:31 So, it's like I have to now.

30:32 That was a learning thing I had to do to like all right now it's like I

30:36 can't even be the same type of like

30:38 showing like diligence or like expectation or like [snorts]

30:41 uh if I'm trying to teach someone something like on how they should be doing

30:44 this I have to be completely different

30:46 over there because it's just a cultural difference.

30:50 Interesting.

30:49 So I've just realized now it's like

30:50 I'm just you know what whatever happens happens.

30:52 I'm just going to

30:55 continue delivering the highest expectations in life with with everything is

30:59 whether it's business or music or just making sure everyone's good.

31:02 Yeah.

31:02 Yeah.

31:02 I'm sure navigating it out here, there's been offers, you know.

31:05 Oh, absolutely.

31:06 Yeah.

31:06 Um I've I've turned down I would say like two handfuls Yeah.

31:12 Probably.

31:12 Yeah.

31:13 Almost two handfuls of labels.

31:14 Wow.

31:15 Just[ __] deals.

31:16 And I'm just like I'm not in the business of being owned.

31:18 Like it's not about the money with me.

31:20 Like if I needed, you know, cuz

31:23 you do need money to navigate anywhere in the industry for sure.

31:26 But I've worked very hard on that to secure my own funding.

31:30 So, it's like if I'm going to do something with a label,

31:32 it'll be like a partnership.

31:33 Like, all right, if you guys want to market and do this and that, I'll bring

31:37 $5 million of my own money on on, you know, into the deal.

31:41 So, I don't need a loan from you guys.

31:42 You guys just market.

31:43 And they don't like that.

31:44 Yeah.

31:44 [laughter] Money is their leverage.

31:46 Exactly.

31:46 So, it's like, but I'm I'm very like I'm not

31:48 a type of like I want to see everyone win.

31:51 I'm not going to be like one of those artists

31:52 that are just like trying to start issues all the time,

31:54 political artists and[ __] you know?

31:56 Like, it's just like, you know, there's a time and place for everything.

31:59 Like but it's like bro I just I refuse to be owned.

32:02 Yeah.

32:02 You know it's probably for the better.

32:04 I think these days I mean these days with social

32:06 media the one benefit is you can be independent.

32:08 Yeah.

32:08 Russ kind of proved the model

32:10 bro.

32:10 But it's like think about there's one Russ and there's like a 100,000 artists.

32:14 So it's like I think with everyone you can give courses,

32:17 you can give your talks and all

32:19 that but for every single person every single thing is different.

32:22 It's very selective case by case study.

32:24 Yeah.

32:24 You can never put one artist into like what worked for him won't work now.

32:30 The space evolves.

32:31 Yeah.

32:31 Cuz it's like there's it's all the stuff he said plus luck.

32:35 Yeah.

32:35 You know, to get that little push cuz think about how many

32:37 songs 100,000 dude's 100,000 minimum uh songs uploaded on Spotify a day.

32:43 Holy crap.

32:44 Like who the[ __] is like like what's the percentage that's good music though?

32:48 Yeah.

32:48 Like 100,000 songs.

32:49 Just let's just say all of them are good

32:51 and all m music is beautiful to someone, right?

32:54 You like that's your competition, you know, 100,000 songs a day.

32:57 So like how do you stand out?

32:58 Like you can't tell me luck doesn't pay play a little bit of it.

33:01 I think luck and timing are here.

33:02 Yeah, luck, timing.

33:03 And then you also need talent and self-awareness,

33:06 but dude, that luck and timing is that universe's kiss.

33:09 You need it.

33:10 Do you feel like you caught a good wave when you were getting into the scene?

33:12 Abs.

33:13 I mean, bro, I came into the scene with like no love.

33:16 like my best friends not showing any love on music

33:20 or like people not sharing my[ __] at all.

33:23 So, it's like I had to deal with a lot of and that's why it's

33:26 like you have to be in love with yourself and be like that delusion comes in.

33:29 But like I'm very self-aware.

33:30 Like I know my music's lit, right?

33:32 But it's like if they don't show the love.

33:34 A lot of people will get, you know,

33:35 will will confuse that with, oh, maybe my music's just not good.

33:38 But people don't want to see you like especially people you grew up with, right?

33:42 They're like, "Oh, this guy, you know, he's, you know,

33:45 they just look at you as that[ __] goofy kid." You know,

33:47 like, and I I feel like all of us,

33:49 and it's it's you have to get through that heartbreak, right?

33:51 But it's to the point where now everyone's sharing my music.

33:54 All of my friends, like, dude, people I don't even talk to, like,

33:57 they'll post it in their real just like

33:58 doing their own[ __] playing Illy in the back.

34:00 And I I think it's a really good feeling as an artist, but it's like, damn,

34:04 took so long just to just for and I'm just getting started.

34:08 It just took so long to get to the ground level.

34:12 you know, so

34:12 I feel that I definitely relate.

34:14 I feel with entertainers, a lot of them are misunderstood.

34:16 Oh, yeah.

34:17 Of course.

34:17 And you deal with a lot of them, too.

34:18 I'm sure you see you see like uh people

34:20 in a very different point in their lives, too.

34:23 You know,

34:23 a lot of them cuz and I feel like you almost have to be to be an artist.

34:28 Yeah.

34:27 You got to be different.

34:29 See that too, but then there's like that whole like persona.

34:35 Like, how do I look like a dick?

34:36 Like, you know what I'm saying?

34:37 Like I have my sunglasses on right now.

34:38 Be like, "Yeah, man.

34:39 Cool." Like, "Yeah, for sure." Yeah, like cool.

34:43 It's just like what are we trying to get done here?

34:45 So, it's like I think like because

34:46 we've um we've glorified that like super mysterious

34:49 not giving a[ __] versus people that actually try and we give them[ __] for it.

34:54 That was an error.

34:55 Look at him.

34:55 He's trying.

34:57 No, that was definitely an error.

34:58 Especially in rap with uh they had to put on a tough persona, right?

35:01 Say you grew up in the hood and did some crimes.

35:04 Did some crimes.

35:05 Yeah, that was definitely like a a Soundcloud

35:08 era or whatever that was, you know.

35:09 Oh jeez, that was dark time [laughter] music, bro.

35:12 Face hats and like all this[ __]

35:13 That was probably tough for you as an Indian growing up, dude.

35:16 It's not even like that.

35:17 Like me being an Indian in the hip-hop like

35:19 industry and like I make American like English hip-hop music.

35:23 So, it's like it's like just, you know,

35:26 going and finding like where I'm at, like finding my fan

35:28 base and this and that and then realizing, you know,

35:30 I thrive in Dubai and my my all of my shows and my biggest fan

35:34 bases are like in these little pockets in the UAE and India and stuff like that.

35:39 Like I love going to India, too.

35:40 Like India's lit.

35:41 Yeah.

35:41 Let's talk about India.

35:42 I've never been there.

35:43 I've been to China, but what was your experience in India?

35:45 India's cool, man.

35:46 I mean, it's[ __] it's hectic obviously.

35:48 There's like depending on where you go.

35:50 I'm from Aabad, which is Gujarat, you know.

35:52 Shout out to Gujarat.

35:53 It's super safe.

35:54 You can go there and like walk around as late as you want and all that stuff.

35:57 Like cuz like it's a dry state,

35:59 but don't let that that means no liquor server, but bro, they drink like crazy.

36:03 Indians drink, bro.

36:04 They party, bro.

36:05 They[ __] party.

36:06 What do they drink out there?

36:08 They They love their whiskey.

36:10 Whiskey.

36:10 Okay.

36:10 They love their whiskey.

36:11 Whiskey.

36:12 Like I don't even know.

36:13 They're drinking like[ __] Jack Daniels and like Johnny Walker and[ __]

36:16 Wow.

36:16 [laughter] Blue label.

36:17 Dude, you would be surprised.

36:19 Cuz I have like my 40-year-old cousins, bro.

36:22 They party harder than me.

36:23 No way.

36:24 I don't even party like that.

36:25 Like they're like, "Oh, we can't keep up with you." Like they're talking like,

36:28 "You can't keep up with Illy." Then they'll take me out.

36:30 I'm just like, "Dude,

36:32 like it should be the other way around.

36:34 You guys [laughter] are wild." Yeah, bro.

36:36 Like I have I have like friends out

36:37 there that are connected to like the biggest families.

36:42 Mhm.

36:41 Like the Adanis, Amanis, like like the billionaire families of India, right?

36:46 And bro, those kids party harder than like celebrities I know.

36:50 And they're just normal kids driving like Geraris

36:53 and[ __] Just like smoking and drinking while driving.

36:55 Like they don't give a[ __]

36:56 That makes sense.

36:57 When you grow up in a family like that.

36:58 Yeah.

36:58 When you're like in in a country like that with political,

37:01 bro, like that's like almost just growing up like a prince.

37:03 Like you have no like rules basically.

37:05 It's not a good thing, you know?

37:06 It's not a good thing at all.

37:07 It doesn't end up well for most statistically.

37:09 No.

37:09 Yeah.

37:10 Not if you're acting like a fool that early, you know, like

37:12 because you're trying to find purpose because when you grow up with money,

37:16 you know.

37:18 Yeah.

37:17 I've I've seen it go either way.

37:18 I mean, I've seen it like if you have good parenting, it can actually be good.

37:22 I feel like good parenting can be bad, too,

37:24 because like it's like there's like a fine line.

37:27 Like I'm a first generation immigrant.

37:29 You know what I'm saying?

37:30 Like my my parents were very strict, but like also like so chill with me, right?

37:34 Like like I'm like, "Dude, I'm Indian.

37:36 I'm an artist.

37:36 Like I'm traveling the world tourism.

37:38 I'm tatted up.

37:39 Like I do a lot of like you know stuff

37:40 that you would think like Indian parents would be cool with.

37:42 My my mom and dad are my biggest fans

37:45 of my music from day one.

37:46 You know what I'm saying?

37:47 So that's like that's so priceless for me, right?

37:49 But dude, India is u it's a trip.

37:51 I mean you see all those videos on the internet

37:54 with like the street food and[ __] Listen,

37:56 for the record, I would not eat [laughter] I

37:58 wouldn't eat anything like street food in India, bro.

38:01 I get food poisoned all the time when I go there.

38:03 Same.

38:03 I got uh I went to Bolivia.

38:05 Have you been there?

38:06 Oh my god.

38:06 No.

38:06 But I

38:07 I ate a cow heart on the side of the road

38:09 and I got the sickest I've ever been, bro.

38:11 A cow heart?

38:12 Yeah.

38:12 Well, he cooked it, but on the side of the road.

38:14 Yeah.

38:14 Literally like a street vendor.

38:16 And I was sick for a week and we had to fly back the next day.

38:19 It was the worst[ __] experience of my life.

38:22 Cow heart.

38:22 I was throwing up, diarrhea.

38:24 It was awful.

38:24 Yeah.

38:25 Cow heart.

38:26 That's crazy.

38:26 I don't think I'm ever going to eat it

38:27 from a street vendor in a third world country again.

38:29 No[ __] bro.

38:31 That is insane.

38:32 I won't even drink the water.

38:33 I heard that with Bali and India,

38:35 dude.

38:35 If you you can't even drink ice

38:37 like I've seen them like dude I do not want

38:40 to down talk India but there has to be like

38:43 there has to be some change they need like

38:45 a health department or something bro like in Dubai bro if

38:48 if you get sick off if one person gets sick

38:51 of your food there's like Indian there's a kurama which

38:53 is like little India like Indian street food I will

38:55 eat everything they're hot cold whatever you'll never get sick really

38:59 bro cuz if one person gets sick they will shut down that restaurant forever.

39:03 No way.

39:03 Yeah it's done.

39:04 Wow.

39:04 I like that, man.

39:05 I love that, bro.

39:06 Over here, they don't give a[ __] They have health departments on everything.

39:09 I think it's more like with us, it's like fines.

39:11 They want fines and how do we find this person?

39:13 Get it's money, money, money.

39:15 But, bro, what about the experience?

39:17 We're talking about food.

39:18 Food has to be good.

39:19 But it's like how do you trust these people, bro?

39:21 In India, you could be in the nicest restaurant ever.

39:24 I still don't trust like what they're doing in the back.

39:26 Bro, that's

39:27 that's India.

39:27 That's sketchy.

39:28 Like I usually just eat at home and like

39:30 I'll eat at nice restaurants too and I'll be fine.

39:32 But bro, that's a shame, man.

39:34 Cuz I love Indian food.

39:35 Yeah.

39:36 Oh, Indian food is[ __] amazing.

39:37 It's in my top three.

39:38 Yeah, but Indian food outside of India.

39:40 A1.

39:42 Yeah.

39:42 Pretty good in Jersey.

39:42 Yeah, dude.

39:43 [laughter] Well, that's Little India, per se, right in Chicago.

39:46 Great Indian food.

39:47 I went to Jim Kana here.

39:48 Oh, yeah.

39:49 How is that?

39:49 I haven't tried it yet.

39:50 So good.

39:50 Really?

39:51 Yeah.

39:51 I went I was going to go to the one

39:52 in uh New York and then we just never got a chance.

39:55 So I got the last table yesterday

39:57 at the ARA.

39:57 Right.

39:57 Yeah.

39:58 at the Ara and then so I'm just like food was lit.

40:00 Damn, I got to try it.

40:01 Yeah, honestly um it was like the Ka non food was good, bro.

40:05 But I've had better Indian food at like like

40:08 10x cheaper like normal Indian restaurants in the UAE like a mom and pop.

40:12 Yeah.

40:13 Way better food than That is the one thing with the strip.

40:15 It's it's the experience you're paying for.

40:16 You're not paying for the food there.

40:17 No way.

40:18 No.

40:18 They all use the same vendors.

40:19 I like the food.

40:20 Yeah.

40:20 [clears throat] It's just like who can cook the the best food from Cisco?

40:24 Yeah, pretty much.

40:25 That's literally what it is now.

40:26 like all restaurant business, you know.

40:27 Yeah.

40:27 All the VCs own the strip now and they they're all about the margins.

40:30 Yeah, dude.

40:32 That word right there[ __] up like generation margins, bro.

40:36 Oh, margin.

40:37 Everything's margins, bro.

40:38 In the restaurant industry.

40:39 Yeah.

40:39 Look, I from a business point of view,

40:41 I get it because it's thin margins in restaurants.

40:42 I invested in a restaurant.

40:44 I lost all my money.

40:45 I know how thin the margins.

40:46 It was um he actually ended up getting arrested by the FBI.

40:49 It was fraud.

40:50 So, it wasn't totally on the restaurant.

40:52 He was moneyaundering and[ __]

40:53 Okay.

40:53 Was it like a a chain or Yeah, it was some guy in Utah.

40:56 Dirty bird chicken or something.

40:58 Dirty bird chicken.

40:59 Something like that.

40:59 Yeah.

41:02 Damn.

41:01 Um but I know the margins are thin in restaurants.

41:04 It's wild, bro.

41:05 Payroll and stuff.

41:06 And I know Wing costs went up a lot in the past.

41:09 And the Wing Stop we actually they have their own um chicken farms now.

41:12 Oh, they do.

41:12 Yeah.

41:13 Just to like lock in costs and stuff.

41:15 So we have to do stuff like that to mediate

41:17 cuz I it went to the point where it was like

41:19 and this was all business like from where when I started you know

41:22 in in the field to like even like 3 years ago chicken prices doubled.

41:27 Jeez.

41:27 You know what I'm saying?

41:27 And like that's per case cost.

41:29 So it's like if it's 60 bucks it goes to like 130.

41:31 I'm just like dude what

41:33 your food cost even if you're doing millions of dollars

41:35 in sales it's always going to be like damn.

41:38 Yeah.

41:37 You know and then the my payroll too.

41:39 Payroll is crazy.

41:40 Yeah.

41:40 I pay very well, too.

41:41 But like,

41:42 you think you'll ever replace some of your employees with AI?

41:45 I I don't know.

41:46 AI.

41:46 Everyone's just talking about AI [laughter] all day, bro.

41:49 I'm so annoyed.

41:50 Like, who cares?

41:51 Like, yeah, I'm sure jobs will get replaced and all that.

41:54 I personally like I would We have AI right now as far as like smart kitchen.

42:00 Yeah.

42:00 But that's just for like predicting orders and[ __]

42:02 but as far as like service and standards, would I replace humans with AI?

42:08 __] no.

42:09 You're starting to see McDonald's and Burger.

42:11 Yeah, dude.

42:11 Well, that's all like margins.

42:13 How do we get the extra two 3% two% off five,

42:16 you know, four or$5 million in sales goes an extreme long way.

42:20 Yeah, cuz they got tons of location.

42:21 Yeah.

42:21 And I'm talking about one store.

42:23 If you're doing like five like three, four, five million a year,

42:25 what's you know, 1% is a half a [laughter] million.

42:29 Yeah.

42:29 Wait, no.

42:30 Am I doing the math right?

42:31 550k 50k.

42:32 But you multiply that by Yeah.

42:33 like 10 stores and then you have like, you know,

42:35 and that's like that one little place where it saves you 1 or 2%.

42:38 Well, this place can save you another 2%.

42:40 So then it adds up.

42:41 You know what I'm saying?

42:42 But yeah, I don't I don't know, man.

42:43 The whole robotic side of things.

42:45 And I know AI can make you a lot of money.

42:46 I have friends on Friends like utilizing AI to make money.

42:49 Oh, especially in Dubai.

42:50 Yeah,

42:51 dude.

42:51 It's insane.

42:53 Yeah.

42:53 But like it just I don't know.

42:54 It feels uh it feels a little like

42:57 like the internet bubble kind of thing with me.

42:59 It's definitely a bubble.

43:00 No doubt about it.

43:01 Most of these companies are going to fail.

43:02 Most of them aren't even profitable yet.

43:04 No.

43:04 You know what I mean?

43:05 They're selling the name.

43:05 It's like the the dot era.

43:08 Yeah, like even Open AI is losing a ton of money.

43:10 Ch.

43:11 I think that's more for like military[ __] though.

43:14 Probably like right now I think it's data.

43:15 Yeah.

43:16 Oh yeah,

43:16 they got so much data on us now.

43:18 It's insane.

43:18 Paliter,

43:20 big daddy.

43:20 People be [laughter] opening up to these AI

43:22 models like telling them their whole life story.

43:24 I've never used chat GBT in my life.

43:27 In my life, bro.

43:28 And and because I've had like people, oh, you know, use chat GBT.

43:31 I'm like, why?

43:32 Like especially as as an artist, bro.

43:34 I try to stay away from all that AI stuff cuz there's AI music,

43:38 there's all this happening with AI, but bro,

43:40 like these people are literally venting to their like Grank or whatever.

43:45 And I'm like and I'm like, you know, like everything's being heard, right?

43:48 So now it's like this person knows you better than you know yourself.

43:50 They've already announced they send some of that info to the government, too.

43:53 Of course.

43:54 Of course.

43:54 Cuz you could be talking yourself saying the craziest[ __] Yeah.

43:56 People have been arrested, I think, for certain search inquiries on Sha GBT.

44:00 Yeah, I've heard of that, too.

44:01 Like like it's it's more complicated than like how to make a bomb.

44:05 Yeah.

44:05 Someone got arrested on a teacher got arrested on Snapchat the other day.

44:09 Isn't that crazy?

44:10 For what?

44:11 Has to be

44:12 She sent a snap to someone or she might have posted on her story.

44:15 I forget.

44:16 But she said one of her students she

44:17 wanted to hurt and then the FBI arrested her.

44:21 Who told on her?

44:23 Snapchat.

44:23 For real?

44:24 They have they have an AI that like I guess goes

44:26 through all the snaps and if they see something suspicious they'll Yeah.

44:29 Send it to authorities.

44:31 Yeah, we're we're already in a mass surveillance state.

44:33 Yeah.

44:33 Oh, yeah.

44:34 And people don't people don't see that.

44:36 Like everyone's like, "Oh,

44:36 we can never be like China CCTV everywhere." I'm like,

44:41 "Dude, they have everything already.

44:43 We're just more We don't We're not about No.

44:45 Yeah.

44:46 It's more like China will like um advertise it."

44:49 Which I actually I'd rather them tell everyone about it.

44:51 You know what I mean?

44:52 Cuz then you at least know what's going on.

44:53 Exactly.

44:54 But like that's why people be thrown off over here.

44:56 Like when they like Oh, there's cameras everywhere.

44:57 Bro, like they can like we're the US.

45:00 You know what I'm saying?

45:01 Like they have like all that[ __] License plate re readers like cops.

45:04 Like you don't even have to be behind a cop anymore.

45:06 It's like you can be if you see the cop, he sees you per se.

45:09 Yeah.

45:09 You know, like there's cameras everywhere.

45:11 They're reading faces.

45:12 Like have you have you been um Yeah.

45:14 You just got back from Australia, right?

45:16 So you see like I don't know how they do it in Vegas,

45:18 but like when you go through immigration,

45:19 they don't you just like take a picture and you walk through, right?

45:22 You don't even see anybody anymore.

45:25 Yeah.

45:25 Right.

45:26 It's all machine time.

45:27 two two years ago even even last year when I came back from um Dubai it was it

45:32 was I had to see a person it was literally just this year I think or like 2025

45:36 that they like you now it's there's no one in immigration

45:39 just like 2 minutes you take a picture you're done like nothing

45:42 that's where we're going yeah so it's like bro I mean I like

45:44 the convenience but like what's on the back end

45:47 yeah for sure have you been to China I haven't but like you haven't

45:50 I haven't I kind of want to go I've been

45:52 How's the food there I feel like is it sketchy as well like

45:54 uh I went to Beijing so it wasn't too sketchy.

45:57 But I'm sure rural parts are sketchy.

45:59 Like, you know,

46:00 reusing oil and[ __] Like,

46:02 I don't know what the hell they were using.

46:04 [laughter] These Chinese people love cooking in oils.

46:08 Yeah, dude.

46:08 Seed oil, sesame oil, any oil.

46:10 Just mix them all up.

46:11 I always feel so heavy after I eat Asian food.

46:13 Yeah.

46:14 And I feel like um do they do they eat

46:16 a lot of like animals that you wouldn't consider eating out here?

46:19 I

46:19 I've heard that.

46:19 Yeah.

46:20 The classic one's a dog, obviously.

46:22 I've heard that.

46:22 I didn't see any when I was in Beijing,

46:24 but I'm sure if you went to the farms or whatever.

46:25 Oh god.

46:27 Yeah.

46:27 What's the What's the weirdest thing you've eaten?

46:30 Definitely not a dog, bro.

46:31 __] I'm going to need a dog.

46:32 I I I just I love animals, man.

46:35 But like I think it's such a hypocritical thing to say

46:37 cuz you eat meat.

46:38 Yes, dude.

46:39 I don't know.

46:40 I haven't I haven't really dabbled with weird foods.

46:43 I mean, what would like because I

46:44 think everyone's considered like different thing weird, right?

46:47 Yeah.

46:47 Yeah.

46:47 It's subjective.

46:48 I've had eels, deer.

46:50 Um are those weird?

46:52 Those are kind of normal.

46:53 Normal.

46:53 I've had neither of those things.

46:54 Oh, neither.

46:55 Yeah.

46:55 I think like if dude Oh, the cow heart's my weirdest.

46:58 That's[ __] insane.

47:00 I think but the the story that you have on the side is way better too.

47:03 Like cow heart third world country side of the road.

47:06 I don't know what I was looking for.

47:07 [laughter] What are you talking about?

47:08 I was so in the moment and I think it's kind of rude to like deny

47:12 experience baby.

47:12 Yeah.

47:12 [laughter]

47:14 And I like supporting local people.

47:15 So when I see like Oh, don't even say supporting [laughter] local.

47:18 That's crazy.

47:19 I like supporting local.

47:20 Well, I go to farmers markets.

47:21 Like I'd rather pay double the price to support 100%.

47:23 Like get get the orange egg yolk eggs,

47:26 get the, you know, antibiotic free chicken.

47:29 All good.

47:29 Yeah.

47:30 Cow heart, bro.

47:31 That's your line.

47:32 You got to make sure it's a wagoo or something, you know.

47:35 Or maybe it's the side of the road.

47:37 Maybe Bolivia.

47:38 I don't know.

47:38 Yeah, Bolivia was a vibe, man.

47:41 Bolivia.

47:40 It was beautiful.

47:41 I love traveling.

47:42 I need to I need to experience more of like

47:43 the Asian slash um like South like American and like

47:48 you haven't been to Thailand or I haven't been to Thailand though.

47:51 I want to go to Thailand.

47:52 You could live like a king out there, man.

47:53 I know.

47:54 I have shows being planned right now.

47:55 Like teams working on like Bali and then one in in[ __] it.

47:58 Fukit.

47:59 Yeah.

47:59 I'm preparing backup plans if I need to leave

48:01 America and just doing research on some of these countries.

48:04 Dude, you could live like a boss.

48:06 Oh, dude.

48:06 Some of these places.

48:07 You can.

48:07 Yeah.

48:07 Thailand and Bali.

48:08 Like I don't know about Bali.

48:09 Like I know you can live like nicely out there,

48:10 but what's the like where's the infrastructure?

48:12 Like you know where from out here?

48:14 You can't just live in like a hut.

48:15 Yeah.

48:16 I mean you could say you could.

48:16 People like to backpack and[ __] I personally I couldn't live in a hut.

48:19 I know you couldn't.

48:20 Maybe for a couple days.

48:21 But

48:21 yeah, just for the experience.

48:22 But bro, I need like uh technology and like you know like

48:26 No, when I went to the Maldes,

48:27 I kind of got a little island fever after a few days.

48:29 Yeah.

48:29 See, dude, if you once you make your like if

48:31 you're if you want to live like I think Yeah.

48:33 Thailand, all that stuff is go Singapore.

48:35 Great.

48:35 Chef's kiss.

48:36 But bro, I see you.

48:37 I see you thrive in Dubai, bro.

48:40 I'm going to go, man.

48:41 You got to.

48:42 You got to make sure I don't get arrested.

48:43 No, no, of course not.

48:44 We'll go when you go there.

48:45 Just hit me up.

48:45 We'll get there together.

48:46 You know what I'm saying?

48:47 I'll show you.

48:47 We'll fly on Emoris together.

48:49 That' be lit.

48:49 First class.

48:50 Get the caviar.

48:51 Caviar, baby.

48:52 Let's go, man.

48:53 Well,[ __] What's next for you?

48:55 Yeah, dude.

48:55 Just uh growing on music, to go hard as I can.

48:58 Um continue to grow on the business side of things, you know?

49:01 Just see how I can make a difference in the world, bro.

49:04 It's like every day is just a gift, you know?

49:07 So, see how hard we can go.

49:10 Any uh tour dates coming or

49:11 uh right now all my shows are right now like they're

49:14 all pushed back because of the whole thing happening in Dubai.

49:16 So, uh, I think the next thing right now I have shows planned.

49:19 Um, I have a couple shows right now in Chicago.

49:21 Okay.

49:21 In the next couple weeks at like Joy Nightclub and like

49:25 I'm going there in June.

49:27 Treehouse.

49:27 Treehouse.

49:27 I heard about that.

49:28 Yeah.

49:28 Treehouse.

49:28 Yeah.

49:28 When you come to Chicago?

49:30 I'm going in June to play Pokemon Go cuz uh

49:33 Pokemon Go 10 year anniversary is in Chicago this year.

49:35 It's going to be packed.

49:36 Yo, I I love that you're Is Go still like

49:39 Did you hear about like the data they took, bro?

49:43 They gave it to like all like the CIA.

49:45 Yeah.

49:45 Like the No, I was more um Yeah, CIA is always involved.

49:49 But like, bro, they know every crevice of every neighborhood

49:52 because of Thanks to you, buddy.

49:54 I still [laughter] play it like even I I

49:56 know that and I It's just like nostalgic for me.

49:59 Of course.

49:59 Pokemon.

49:59 Were you a big Pokemon?

50:00 Uh growing up.

50:01 I played every Game Boy game, every DS game.

50:03 I collected the cards.

50:04 Ruby was the best.

50:05 Ruby was my favorite.

50:06 Yeah, Ruby was gas.

50:07 Yeah.

50:07 Groudon.

50:08 Groudon.

50:09 [laughter] Groud, baby.

50:11 Dude, that's the only Pokemon game I played.

50:14 Ruby.

50:14 Ruby on the Game Boy SP and I was just like God.

50:17 That's the only one you need, honestly.

50:18 Yeah, [laughter] right.

50:19 Yeah, it got downhill after that.

50:20 Yeah, really Sapphire, too.

50:22 Right.

50:22 It's the same thing.

50:23 Kyogre.

50:24 Different different God was kind of hard to get.

50:28 Yeah, they were very hard to get, but Pokemon will always Yu-Gi-Oh.

50:31 Yeah, I had Yu-Gi-Oh cards, dude.

50:33 I always huge into Yu-Gi-Oh.

50:35 Loved Yu-Gi-Oh more than Pokemon.

50:38 Really?

50:37 Yeah.

50:37 Like, yeah, like Dark Magician, like, you know.

50:39 Yeah, that one's still around.

50:40 It's not as big as Pokemon.

50:42 Magic the Gathering is huge now.

50:44 Yeah, that was like I feel like that's always been kind

50:46 of big with like the World of Warcraft kind of thing.

50:48 Yeah, that one's too too advanced for me.

50:50 World of Warcraft is way too advanced for me.

50:51 I see all those buttons, I'm like gez, bro.

50:53 I like to play Runescape.

50:55 I love Runescape,

50:55 dude.

50:56 Old school Runescape, dude.

50:57 I used to scam in that game.

50:59 That I[ __] My mom had to throw me off

51:01 of it cuz like I basically almost failed the seventh grade.

51:04 I got like straight D's.

51:07 Really?

51:06 Cuz dude, I was just like the moment I'd wake up 7 a.m.

51:08 like my best friend Mike was already on.

51:10 He's like, "Yo, it took you long enough, loser." I'm like, "It's 7 a.m.

51:13 on a Sunday.

51:13 We're 12 years old."

51:15 Savage.

51:15 [laughter] Did you have a maxed out account?

51:17 Oh, dude.

51:18 No.

51:18 I just My whole thing was just get to 94 mage, Ice Barrage,

51:21 finish desert treasure, and it's like to PK[ __] You know what I'm saying?

51:25 Now there's Oda Block, dude.

51:26 Now I watch him PK.

51:27 I'm just like, yo, what is going on?

51:29 You're a pKer, huh?

51:30 Yeah, I love PK.

51:31 I got PKed bad a few times.

51:32 Same.

51:32 I wasn't that good, but I was just like if

51:34 as long as I had ice barrage, I was so happy.

51:36 Dude, my heart would race as soon as I crossed over that PK line.

51:39 Yes, that if [laughter] you see like one dot and then like you see

51:42 like a 100 people spawn from that one dot and it was like cooked.

51:45 Yeah, good times, man.

51:47 I was a big clan war,

51:48 dude.

51:48 Yes, dude.

51:48 Times were so much simpler.

51:50 Grand so much before like the Grand Exchange came out.

51:54 Yeah.

51:53 And[ __] bro.

51:54 Times were just Yeah.

51:55 Grand Exchange made it complicated.

51:57 I I was a big merchant, too, though.

51:59 Yeah, dude.

51:59 Now, do you see like like prices of like Dclaws and[ __] Crazy.

52:02 They're in the billions, bro.

52:03 I used to have those.

52:04 Yeah, same.

52:05 Like billions.

52:06 I might have to log into my account.

52:07 Yeah, I got I don't know what happened to my account.

52:09 I think they took it down because I I like didn't play as much.

52:12 I think they take it down eventually if you

52:13 don't like I didn't know that was a thing.

52:15 Well, there was the old school one and then they switched to the new school.

52:18 I see.

52:18 I wouldn't even play RS3 cuz that's like World of Warcraft.

52:20 It's like too advanced.

52:21 Like I They went back.

52:22 I think too many people.

52:24 I think more people like play old school Runescape.

52:27 I attribute a lot of my mindset to Runescape, bro.

52:31 Grand Exchange like business like selling[ __] buying more.

52:35 Yeah.

52:35 Like trapping like that shit's literally from the GE, baby.

52:38 You know what I'm saying?

52:38 You had to grind, man.

52:39 Oh, dude.

52:40 Buying Runescape me 30k.

52:41 Like before I was just, bro, all day.

52:43 You had to grind.

52:44 My typing skills by the time I was in eighth grade,

52:46 they're like, "Yo, this guy's crazy." I'm just like, "Runcape, baby."

52:49 Dude, my typing skills were nuts cuz they made us do Mavis Beacon.

52:51 Did they do that to you?

52:53 No.

52:53 Oh, it's like a typing class.

52:54 Yes.

52:54 Yes.

52:55 In seventh grade.

52:55 Yeah.

52:56 I was just like back and forth, back and forth, bro.

52:58 All I'm typing is buying Runescape in third grade, bro.

53:00 And I wouldn't even be looking.

53:01 I'd be like straight like my work ethic comes from Runescape.

53:06 I think [laughter]

53:06 you had to grind.

53:07 You had to grind, bro.

53:09 Like just to level up took like a week.

53:11 Yes, dude.

53:11 And now I see these accounts like like dude, back in the Zesma days.

53:16 Zma.

53:15 Zesma, dude.

53:16 Legend.

53:17 I wonder what he's up to now.

53:18 But

53:18 yeah, I got to get him on the pod.

53:19 He was the [laughter] first uh maxed out account.

53:22 Yes, dude.

53:22 He was like the most He's like the like the what's

53:24 the who's like a He's like the Michael Jackson of like Runescape players.

53:29 like known by every

53:30 Runes followed as soon as he logged in.

53:32 Oh dude, he had to be I'm sure he had to have like all his accounts off,

53:35 like his private accounts off cuz dude,

53:37 as soon as he'd log in, the whole world would max out.

53:39 Yeah,

53:39 you know, that's insane.

53:40 Being a celebrity Runescape.

53:41 Yeah, Runescape.

53:41 [laughter] They were like the VR before virtual reality.

53:45 Yeah.

53:45 Could you imagine VR and Runescape?

53:46 I would probably ruin my life.

53:48 Get back to it.

53:48 Yeah, that'd be lit.

53:50 Ice.

53:50 VR kind of failed though.

53:52 VR did fail.

53:53 Meta just announced they're giving up on the metaverse.

53:55 They sent 800 billion.

53:56 It was 80.

53:57 It was 80 billion or 80 something crazy.

53:59 It was like it was stupid.

54:00 But now it's like dude, think about NFTTS.

54:03 Those people are dumb.

54:04 I lost a lot of money on those.

54:06 [laughter] Yeah.

54:06 No, you could say that.

54:08 Like board ape and stuff.

54:09 I'm just like I have a mutant ape.

54:11 Yeah.

54:11 Okay.

54:12 It went from a 100 grand.

54:13 I think they're like 500 bucks now.

54:15 I thought they were less.

54:16 Yeah, it might be.

54:17 I haven't checked them.

54:18 Yeah.

54:18 Like like they were like But I mean, bro, it doesn't matter.

54:19 You go from six figures to like two three digits.

54:22 I lost six figures.

54:23 Yeah.

54:24 Den

54:26 Den.

54:26 I'm big in cryptos.

54:26 That was just a den phase of mine.

54:28 I was I was big in crypto when I like um back in the Silk Road days.

54:32 Silk Road.

54:33 I remember logging in there in college.

54:34 Yeah, dude.

54:35 I had um I think uh at one point I had like 2,000 Bitcoin.

54:40 Damn.

54:40 Are you serious?

54:41 You know how much that is now?

54:43 Yeah.

54:43 Hundreds of millions [laughter] and then the FBI had to take it away.

54:47 Ah, you had it on the platform.

54:49 You left it on there, dude.

54:51 So bad.

54:51 Oh my god.

54:52 Then my house got raided.

54:53 Oh my god.

54:54 And I was 18.

54:55 I remember logging on there seeing you could buy a Hitman for 5K.

54:58 Yeah, dude.

54:59 It was just like the drug market and all this stuff

55:01 and like I [snorts] was 18 years old one day

55:04 and then like USPS comes and it was like uh

55:06 Lincoln's birthday 2013 and then I realized like eight years later.

55:10 Wait, the mail doesn't come on Lincoln's birthday.

55:12 Oh god.

55:12 I just randomly like hear that mail doesn't come on Lincoln's birthday

55:15 like way years after all this happened and then clicked in my head.

55:18 So that was wild bro.

55:19 Then like

55:20 whenever I got packages I would like take a walk first.

55:22 Yeah.

55:22 like scope it out cuz they like be camping, bro.

55:25 Dude, I had literal USPS come to my house,

55:27 like full address USPS, like those box trucks.

55:30 Wow.

55:31 Everything.

55:33 And I was like, "Oh, sorry, man.

55:34 We lost this blah blah blah blah blah." And then I shut the door and I'm like,

55:36 "Um, I called my ex at the time.

55:38 Like, I got the package." She's like, "Yeah,

55:39 don't open it." And then my friends

55:40 that I'm still friends with today, they're like,

55:42 "Yo, bro, like whatever you need, like I'll pay you whatever.

55:45 Just open it." Like, and I'm like, "All right,[ __] it." So,

55:47 I open the package and I hear a knock at my door.

55:49 All I hear is boom, boom, boom.

55:51 And then I just turn, right?

55:53 Say there's like a door and there's like a blind

55:55 like like this right here with the lights coming in.

55:56 Yeah.

55:56 Pitch black, bro.

55:58 Pitch black.

55:59 And all I hear is like the door gets knocked open.

56:02 I'm all I hear is police search boy.

56:03 Get the[ __] on the I just throw the package hoping it disappear.

56:06 And then same dude in the USPS outfit

56:09 like as I'm getting walked out of my house, he's like leather jacket.

56:13 Like he's like, "Hey man,

56:14 thanks federal agent." And I'm just like this is straight out of a[ __]

56:18 They went in your house.

56:19 Yes, bro.

56:19 Oh, they raided my property.

56:21 Holy crap.

56:22 So, they had a warrant.

56:23 Yeah.

56:23 Like 12 cops like in street clothes, like machine guns.

56:26 Get the[ __] on the ground.

56:27 I'm just like, "Okay." And I was like super chill.

56:29 I'm handcuffed to like my couch.

56:30 My dogs there.

56:31 My parents aren't home or anything.

56:32 I'm 18.

56:33 I'm like, "Yo, if you guys are thirsty,

56:34 like there's water and like drinks in [laughter] the fridge.

56:36 I'm just trying to be nice, bro.

56:37 Like, you know, I'm already[ __] I'm already handcuffed.

56:40 Oh my god."

56:41 You know, to my couch with my dog.

56:42 I'm like, "Cops are funny, bro."

56:45 Dude, how'd you get out of that one?

56:46 Uh just like I my first defense kind of thing and I

56:51 and I had like I had a good really good lawyer,

56:53 you know, and plus, bro, I'm on the dark web.

56:57 Yeah.

56:56 Like what what do you want me to do?

56:58 Like this like here it is.

56:59 Like what the[ __] Like

57:01 you were you were probably on a small level too with ordering.

57:03 You weren't like a big dealer.

57:05 No, it was just like weed and[ __] bro.

57:07 It wasn't like anything crazy.

57:08 But that's before weed got legalized in order, you know?

57:11 Dude, I had two packages get seized.

57:15 Yeah.

57:14 Damn.

57:14 Cuz I used to order fake.

57:15 I take and one of them got seized and I got a letter in the mail from customs

57:20 like come pick it up come come see us.

57:21 They were no they were basically like we seized this and uh I forget

57:25 what it said but then I sent it to my friend's house that got seized.

57:30 Damn.

57:30 So they were like I don't know how they were finding out.

57:32 They big on big on IDs and[ __]

57:33 I was selling them in high school.

57:36 Yeah.

57:35 Yeah.

57:35 Cuz the drinking age is 21.

57:37 Of course.

57:37 Of course.

57:38 That was a little side hustle.

57:39 That's crazy.

57:39 Yeah.

57:40 But you had to use crypto to order them,

57:42 right?

57:42 Bro, if I kept that[ __]

57:43 dude.

57:43 I I spent uh 10 grand on the 2,000 Bitcoin.

57:47 Oh my god.

57:48 So to do the math, it was like my my first Bitcoin I bought for $6,

57:51 dude.

57:52 People think it's going to hit a million.

57:53 I think it will.

57:54 I think right now we're it's in the enemy year of, you know, Bitcoin.

57:57 Oh, you're in numerology.

57:59 Huge in the numerology, bro.

58:00 Huge.

58:00 Like what's your life?

58:02 Eighth.

58:02 Eight.

58:03 Everything that in my life adds up to eight.

58:05 Every like every room I stay in, like even if I it'll be like 107 or 404.

58:10 Eight's a number of wealth, right?

58:11 Yeah.

58:11 But like I don't even look at I think it's very karmic.

58:13 Like even one of my chains over here is just all eights,

58:15 you know?

58:16 It's just like I'm just very big on like living a righteous life,

58:19 but also like cuz I've been on both sides

58:21 of the spectrum of like being poor and then being like,

58:23 you know, having financial freedom.

58:25 And um so I'm very grateful for every little thing, you know,

58:29 every every transaction, bro, with a credit card or cash like I just say like,

58:34 you know, like I'll just be like, you know,

58:36 thank you for like having the privilege and the like to like buy gas,

58:40 buy food, you know, doing anything.

58:41 It's just energy.

58:42 I don't look at it as a number.

58:43 It's more just energy flowing, you know?

58:45 So that's what money is.

58:46 Yeah.

58:46 It's all energy.

58:47 It's just a flow of energy like how you like So I don't take it for granted.

58:50 So that's why when it comes to me I you know even if I'll spend

58:53 money like I'll indulge bro don't get me wrong like I'll buy a Lambo like I

58:57 I'll fly planes like whatever right but at the same

59:00 time like how can I deliver this either via experience or other people's lives

59:04 getting better through the process I feel that yeah but big into numerology

59:08 I'm huge into I think the universe runs on numbers

59:11 it's all numbers and the universe is all frequency so it's like once again

59:14 you can lie to whoever you want you can't tell a lie to the universe

59:17 yeah you can't fake your energy like when you meet someone, you give off energy.

59:21 Yeah.

59:21 And then if you're if you meet someone that's in tune Oh,

59:24 good luck fooling them.

59:25 Yeah.

59:25 You're[ __] You're[ __] Yeah.

59:26 Some of the smartest people I know are so in tuned.

59:28 Yeah, dude.

59:29 Numerology, baby.

59:31 What's your life path?

59:31 I'm a 33.

59:32 3 Oh, I'm a master number.

59:35 Yeah.

59:35 Master number.

59:35 I like eights, though.

59:37 Yeah.

59:37 33 is actually like the master number.

59:39 Yeah.

59:39 Yeah.

59:39 There's 11.

59:40 There's 22.

59:41 22 and 33, but 33 is like even in the Masonic game,

59:44 you know, like you know, it's like Yeah.

59:46 33 degree Mason.

59:47 That's a whole rabbit hole right there.

59:49 Oh, man.

59:49 Dude.

59:50 Yeah, you can.

59:50 I have friends that are just like inviting me to the lounges and stuff.

59:54 Oh gosh.

59:54 I'm just like I'm good, man.

59:55 Like maybe eventually like, you know, it's cool.

59:57 Knowledge is power, I guess, but like at what at what cost?

1:00:00 At what cost?

1:00:01 At what cost, bro?

1:00:02 Yeah.

1:00:02 You know, like I'm happy now.

1:00:05 Yeah.

1:00:04 So, it's like I think knowledge is cool, but like, man, I don't know.

1:00:08 I' I've heard some things.

1:00:09 There's certain things I want to not know about.

1:00:11 Yeah.

1:00:11 [laughter] I'd rather just not know.

1:00:13 You know what I'm saying?

1:00:13 Like, I'll just I'll just go off like uh speculation.

1:00:15 It's a cool thing to have an imagination.

1:00:17 Yeah.

1:00:18 You know, it's a lost thing.

1:00:20 Yes.

1:00:20 Because they dole it in school.

1:00:21 They dole your imagination.

1:00:22 Yeah.

1:00:22 Well, school is all for employees, right?

1:00:24 Like you follow a bell to go to lunch, get from lunch, come back from recess.

1:00:28 It's all like a[ __] assembly line.

1:00:30 100%.

1:00:30 I always Yeah.

1:00:31 I always felt like imagination was punished in school.

1:00:34 Like when you had creative ideas.

1:00:35 Exactly, bro.

1:00:36 And now it's like uh intelligence is, you know, belittled,

1:00:39 which is weird to me, you know.

1:00:40 It's just we should be we should be

1:00:42 we should be rewarding We should be incentivizing these kids, you know,

1:00:46 in the future of our gener cuz now I I don't know, man.

1:00:48 I don't know, dude.

1:00:49 IQ is dropping.

1:00:50 Like we we grew up in like the best

1:00:51 generation ever cuz we grew up with no technology.

1:00:54 Saw everything in the '9s, you know, to playing on like a[ __] Game Boy, bro.

1:00:58 Like think about Game Boy Ruby like like you know,

1:01:02 Pokemon Ruby on Game Boy SP versus like the technology they have now for games.

1:01:08 It's insane.

1:01:09 Like they have like virtual reality where like you know,

1:01:11 they're getting better at it.

1:01:12 babies.

1:01:13 Oh, dude, iPad babies annoy me.

1:01:15 My niece and nephew love them so much.

1:01:18 But bro, like when they're on that iPad, zombie land, bro.

1:01:21 I'm like, "Yo, get your head out of your [laughter] ass."

1:01:25 They're disassociating from their body, dude.

1:01:26 They're not there.

1:01:27 And they're just like, they'll look up like, "Huh?" Look back down.

1:01:30 I'm like, "This has to be like close enough to fentanyl." It's a drug.

1:01:35 It's definitely a drug.

1:01:36 It's a drug, man.

1:01:37 I think uh IQ is dropping and now there's new studies

1:01:39 that AI is lowering your IQ because you're becoming so reliant on it.

1:01:42 It's like us using a calculator in school but worse.

1:01:45 See calculators are cool man but like AI once

1:01:47 you're like your therapist is AI any sort of any

1:01:50 sort of creative creative like outlet or question you

1:01:54 have like oh this work you ask a robot.

1:01:58 Yeah.

1:01:57 Which I get people are more like reserved nowadays.

1:02:00 People aren't talking but look what's like you know look at all

1:02:02 these people like technologically you know there you go to a club.

1:02:05 I don't even like going to nightclubs.

1:02:06 But you go into a club now, bro,

1:02:07 it's just people standing around on their phone.

1:02:11 That's wild.

1:02:11 They just paid like I haven't been to a club in a long time.

1:02:13 Yeah, I haven't.

1:02:14 When I used to go though, that was that wasn't the thing.

1:02:16 I just perform and then I leave.

1:02:17 I like do my you know,

1:02:18 show face uh like I'll perform and then bro, I am out the back door.

1:02:23 I feel that.

1:02:23 You know, I'll show love, you know,

1:02:24 just do whatever I have to do on the marketing side of things,

1:02:26 you know, hype the club up and then I'm

1:02:28 out of there cuz it's like, bro, it's just it's all like flexing now, right?

1:02:32 Yeah.

1:02:32 It's like what's the point?

1:02:33 Like this is not like a it's not like

1:02:35 a social gathering anymore where you used to go,

1:02:37 you know, go to, you know, dance, you know, meet a cute girl, this and that.

1:02:41 Now it's like, bro, I don't even want to interact with you heathens, [laughter]

1:02:47 you know?

1:02:48 I And I love people, right?

1:02:49 But it's like, dude, some of these people, man, energy, baby.

1:02:52 Yeah.

1:02:52 It's a low vi It's a low vibrational setting these days.

1:02:55 Very low vi everything, everywhere you go.

1:02:57 Like, and I don't like saying that cuz it's like the red car theory.

1:03:00 Like you you focus on negative stuff, negative stuff happens.

1:03:03 I'm only on that highest frequency.

1:03:05 Like try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.

1:03:07 Blas blas.

1:03:08 But dude, man, like I look at everyone.

1:03:10 I think God is internal.

1:03:12 Like I don't relinquish power to some sky daddy.

1:03:15 You know, everything like religion and all stuff.

1:03:17 Shout out to everyone for beliefs.

1:03:18 It's all good.

1:03:18 But like I think God is right here.

1:03:20 You know, the creator lives within the creation.

1:03:23 Vice versa.

1:03:23 So it's like I treat everyone like a god or a goddess.

1:03:26 But I tell them, make sure they see it

1:03:27 in you first or you'll just get walked over 100%.

1:03:31 You know what I'm saying?

1:03:32 So, yeah, man.

1:03:34 Been there, done that.

1:03:34 I've been that nice guy before.

1:03:35 It doesn't work, unfortunately.

1:03:37 I'd love to be nice to everyone.

1:03:39 You have to be nice.

1:03:39 It's It's cool to be nice to yourself and being uh understanding and empathetic,

1:03:44 but you have to be like stern like, "Yo,[ __] out of here.

1:03:46 You need a boundary.

1:03:47 Like, what are you talking about?

1:03:48 Like, don't talk to me like that." Or like,

1:03:49 you know, you have to like give people like

1:03:52 what they're, you know, what they have coming.

1:03:55 Yeah.

1:03:55 I know [laughter] what you mean.

1:03:56 I I used to let people run me over.

1:03:57 I grew up a single mother and I didn't have that father figure.

1:04:00 So, and you know what?

1:04:01 And and I think for the benefit of the doubt, us just being good people,

1:04:06 you know, karma, but bro, karma is is huge.

1:04:09 Karma is real.

1:04:10 Yeah.

1:04:10 Especially for AIDS,

1:04:11 like some people will um deal with karma in their next life or like, dude,

1:04:15 my[ __] will be like I'll tell you to[ __] off and they'll

1:04:17 turn around and hit my like head against the door right away.

1:04:20 That means you're in tune with your the quicker

1:04:22 I just learned this from a psychic.

1:04:23 quicker your karma cycles, the the more like elevated you are.

1:04:27 Yeah.

1:04:27 And my karma is immediate.

1:04:28 Yeah.

1:04:28 Some people, you're right, though,

1:04:29 they don't it doesn't hit their life because they're just not

1:04:31 Maybe their kid will get it or like their next life generational karma.

1:04:34 Yeah.

1:04:35 Dude, that's that's dangerous.

1:04:37 That's why it's like I treat that goes back to treating everyone like

1:04:40 that god figure from like the people working down here to like the CEO.

1:04:44 We've been there in past lives.

1:04:45 We've all worn those hats.

1:04:46 Yeah.

1:04:46 Like I'm big into like I'm born in the year of the dog.

1:04:49 So I'm stewed.

1:04:50 I see a dog I lose my mind.

1:04:52 I I see any animal I just like I just start freaking out.

1:04:55 Like I just like I want to go like interact with them.

1:04:57 I see like a straight animal or straight animal.

1:04:59 Bro, I'm there.

1:05:00 Like I'm trying to find out and like give him a head rub

1:05:03 like immediate like I don't know how to It's just the energy thing 100%.

1:05:07 Yeah.

1:05:07 I'm an ox.

1:05:08 Yeah.

1:05:09 Okay.

1:05:09 So it was in the last year when the year the horse

1:05:12 I think two three years ago was my year.

1:05:14 I I did very well that year.

1:05:16 Yeah.

1:05:16 Ox.

1:05:16 Now I got to wait another nine years.

1:05:17 I think my enemy year is in a couple years.

1:05:19 So I got to be careful.

1:05:20 Ox as enemy is not a rat, right?

1:05:23 No, it's uh is it rooster?

1:05:25 I always get them mixed up, but yeah, I know.

1:05:27 I know.

1:05:28 If like I'm dog, my enemy is dragon.

1:05:31 It was crazy, bro.

1:05:32 Like my most toxic relationship.

1:05:34 I was just going to ask you that.

1:05:35 My most absolute like the girl that changed

1:05:37 like the way I look at relationships.

1:05:38 Like I'm not giving her credit.

1:05:40 Like I just don't give a[ __] anymore.

1:05:41 Like I'm just like I'm so desensitized.

1:05:43 So it's like if someone wants to leave like bye.

1:05:45 Like see you.

1:05:45 You can't break my heart anymore.

1:05:47 __] you up that bad.

1:05:48 Yeah.

1:05:48 Well, she didn't[ __] me up.

1:05:48 I just like it kind of just like my heart.

1:05:51 You can't break my heart now.

1:05:52 Like it's just already like Is that good or bad?

1:05:55 No, I think it's it's it's a blessing and a curse

1:05:57 cuz I can literally just des I can detach like this.

1:06:00 You say one thing I you're not in my life anymore.

1:06:03 And that screws people up sometimes, right?

1:06:04 Cuz I used to be on the opposite end of that.

1:06:06 And I don't mean to do it on purpose, but

1:06:08 it wasn't until like I got big into numerology till I realized she was

1:06:12 um she was born in 2000 or 2001 was the year of the dragon.

1:06:16 Yeah.

1:06:16 And I'm like, "Fuck, that's my end of the year." Like,

1:06:19 of like like it made sense after that, you know,

1:06:21 because like I see more stuff, bro.

1:06:23 And it always goes back to numerology,

1:06:26 like random like every day I just study like numbers, numbers, numbers, numbers.

1:06:29 Like every time I look at my phone, it just be like 444,

1:06:32 but like I'm not looking at like the like it'll be

1:06:34 like eight or 12 everything like bro look at my phone,

1:06:37 it'll be like 1 2 3 4 and then I have 56 on my battery.

1:06:40 Angel numbers.

1:06:41 Wow.

1:06:41 Like it's 1 2 3 4 5 6 at the top.

1:06:42 And that'll happen like multiple times a day.

1:06:44 And it's not like I'm just looking at my phone.

1:06:45 Someone just tell me to look at my phone and then it'll just be like crazy

1:06:48 a constructed time that adds up to eight or 12 always.

1:06:51 That's nuts, dude.

1:06:52 Yeah.

1:06:52 All of my hotel rooms, every B&B I stay at adds up to eight.

1:06:55 Are you serious, bro?

1:06:56 For the last like two years, everywhere I go, holy crap.

1:06:59 Adds up to eight.

1:06:59 Why?

1:07:00 How?

1:07:01 I'm just trying to see like what does that mean?

1:07:03 Like, how is that working?

1:07:04 Like, I don't get it.

1:07:06 Yeah.

1:07:05 You know what I'm saying?

1:07:06 So, it's like I don't know.

1:07:07 I learned from one of the best numerologists in the world.

1:07:09 Yeah, Gary the numbers guy.

1:07:11 You know him?

1:07:12 Um, yeah.

1:07:12 Yeah.

1:07:12 Forget it.

1:07:13 GG33.

1:07:14 Yeah.

1:07:14 GG33.

1:07:14 Yeah.

1:07:14 Yeah, I'll connect you guys.

1:07:16 Yeah, he's Yeah, he's he's I actually wanted

1:07:18 to like reach out to him and be like, "Hey,

1:07:19 I've seen him do crazy stuff with numerology like with my own eyes." Wow.

1:07:24 Like he uses numerology to make money sports betting.

1:07:27 He uses it to um have kids on certain dates.

1:07:30 Yes.

1:07:30 That's huge.

1:07:31 Yeah.

1:07:31 Getting married, you're you know,

1:07:33 seeing like if that you're if you marry someone on your enemy year,

1:07:36 that's like from your enemy year.

1:07:39 Divorce.

1:07:38 I probably wouldn't do that[ __]

1:07:40 I would bet money that the percentage of divorce is higher 100%.

1:07:44 like over the 50%.

1:07:45 Like majority.

1:07:46 I would bet it's a little higher if not way higher.

1:07:48 That's insane though.

1:07:49 Yeah, it's power.

1:07:49 Numbers are powerful, guys.

1:07:52 Yeah.

1:07:51 Start keeping track of your numbers.

1:07:52 Um powerful.

1:07:53 Where can uh people find you, man?

1:07:55 Uh everywhere.

1:07:56 Signature Illy, baby.

1:07:57 Cool.

1:07:57 We'll link it below.

1:07:59 Yeah.

1:07:58 I'll see you in Dubai next time.

1:08:00 Yes.

1:08:00 You got to come, man.

1:08:00 Let's go.

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