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0:00 Why would the president,
0:01 who was spied on illegally by the intelligence
0:04 and law enforcement agencies of this country back in 2015,
0:08 2016, 2017, why would he put so much
0:12 of his authority behind more wild warrantless spying on Americans?
0:21 That's hard for me to understand.
0:24 Uh, some people think it's because he wants that ability to you know,
0:28 while as long as he's president to use
0:30 his own FBI and DOJ to have these same tools.
0:33 Um, but then that begs the question, why would the Democrats, the uniparty,
0:39 right, if you will, why would they want to give President Trump this authority?
0:45 You would think they might agree
0:47 to a three-year hiatus on spying without warrants, right?
0:51 But no, they don't want any lapse in the program,
0:54 and the president doesn't want any lapse in the program.
0:57 But But if Democrats are so afraid of Trump, if he's really Hitler,
1:01 he's this authoritarian crazy person who's going to eliminate civil liberties,
1:05 why would Democrats be giving that guy the power
1:09 to spy without a warrant on American citizens?
1:12 That.
1:13 Exactly.
1:14 You've re- rephrased it better than I said it.
1:17 Um, in fact, I found myself in a really weird position
1:21 last week on the floor of the house on flyout day.
1:25 Most people uh, had already booked their planes
1:27 to leave before this debate was going to happen.
1:31 The House of Representatives uh, sent the Senate a deal to reauthorize FISA
1:36 if the Senate would ban Central Bank Digital Currency.
1:39 Now, I would I would ban Central
1:41 Bank Digital Currency and not reauthorize FISA, right?
1:44 [laughter] But the some of the Freedom Caucus decided that was an okay trade
1:49 to trade part of the Fourth Amendment for another part of the Fourth Amendment.
1:53 And I am terrified of Central Bank Digital Currency.
1:55 It's an on-off switch for your participation in society.
1:59 Of course.
2:00 Um They'd starve you to death if you disobey.
2:02 Yeah.
2:02 Just They won't let you put gas in the tank.
2:05 You won't be able to travel.
2:06 Um they'll just, you know,
2:07 they can control everything if they can control the currency.
2:10 It's bad enough.
2:11 But we sent that deal to the Senate.
2:13 I um I didn't vote for that deal, but some people did.
2:16 It went to the Senate,
2:17 and the Senate laughed at that deal, threw it in the trash,
2:20 and sent a clean reauthorization of FISA back
2:22 to the House with a 45-day ex- expiration.
2:26 And everybody sugge- everybody but me suggested we
2:30 should just let that pass by unanimous consent,
2:32 and folks could get on their airplanes and go home.
2:36 And I said, "I don't think so.
2:37 Like, an infringement of the Constitution for 45
2:41 days is still an infringement of the Constitution,
2:43 and by the way, we've known about this problem
2:45 for as long as I've been in Congress.
2:47 I've been offering and passing amendments
2:50 to defund this part of the FISA program.
2:53 It's not something new.
2:55 It's like a uh a florist being surprised by Valentine's Day.
2:59 We knew this date was coming.
3:01 And so um I stood up, and I objected.
3:05 And they said, "Okay, well,
3:06 now we got to have a debate over this bill." And Jim Jordan got 20 minutes,
3:11 and Jamie Raskin got 20 minutes as the chair
3:14 and the ranking member of the committee of jurisdiction,
3:17 the Judiciary Committee.
3:18 And at that point, I I stood up and I and told
3:22 the speaker that I want 20 minutes in actual opposition to the bill.
3:26 Wait.
3:26 I'm confused.
3:27 You have one of the most liberal Democrats in the House,
3:30 Jamie Raskin of Maryland.
3:31 You have one of the most conservative
3:32 Republicans in the House, Jim Jordan of Ohio.
3:36 But they're on the same side on spying on Americans?
3:39 For at least 45 days, they're on the same side.
3:42 Well, how could Jim Jordan, this ferociously conservative freedom guy,
3:47 be in favor of spying on Americans without a warrant?
3:51 Uh well, the president told him to.
3:55 Yeah, but that's like a core That's a core issue.
3:57 It's always been a core issue of his.
4:00 And in the debate of his specifically.
4:02 Correct.
4:03 It was It was a condition of being on the Judiciary Committee when I joined.
4:07 Like you had to believe that we needed warrants on FISA
4:10 or you couldn't be on the Judiciary Committee that he chaired.
4:14 That was like the first interview
4:15 question when you applied for Judiciary Committee.
4:18 Constitution still real.
4:19 Right.
4:20 And particularly with FISA 702, this particular program.
4:24 And he battled last Congress ferociously to get warrants.
4:28 And it came down to a tie vote where Mike Johnson was the deciding vote.
4:32 And we I don't know why, again, cuz Biden was president,
4:37 but enough Republicans voted to let Biden have
4:39 the power to spy on Americans without a warrant.
4:41 Because a lot of the information that intelligence
4:44 that's spying on Americans goes directly to Israel.
4:46 Like fact.
4:48 Absolutely.
4:48 Right.
4:48 So that's what this is really about is do we allow a foreign country
4:52 to spy Does our government make it easier
4:54 for a foreign country to spy on Americans?
4:56 It's like the ultimate betrayal.
4:58 Another fact, when X decided to show you where accounts were based,
5:03 where they were set up,
5:04 and where they were operated from, the DHS account showed
5:07 Israel that it was set up the the US Department
5:12 of Homeland Security's X account was set up using an IP
5:16 address from Israel using an Android app for purchased in Israel.
5:23 And that doesn't trouble people?
5:25 Like there should be an investigation over why
5:29 when the DHS set up its Twitter account, it was set up in Israel.
5:33 Now, they claim, if you ask Grok about this, he'll walk around the bush with you
5:37 Of course.
5:37 and and say that well,
5:39 there were some glitches back in the old day and there were some
5:41 contractors involved and you can you can never get to the bottom of it.
5:45 So, but back to the last week, um I was able to claim So,
5:49 but just be clear, Jordan was on the same side as Jamie Raskin, correct?
5:54 For the clean 45-day ex-
5:56 Did you feel like your head was spinning as you watched this?
5:58 It yes, but I've been here before, where it's me versus the UniParty.
6:04 And by the way, um this when they call me an obstructionist,
6:09 you can put this in the column of things that I try to obstruct,
6:12 like violations of your Fourth Amendment.
6:15 So, the speaker said, "Okay,
6:17 each side gets 20 minutes." And I rose up and I said,
6:19 "Well, in fact, each side is for this.
6:21 So, this is no kind of debate." Like [laughter] "I want my 20 minutes."
6:26 It's like the perfect metaphor.
6:29 [laughter] It's like a fake debate where both sides agree.
6:31 Right.
6:33 Yeah.
6:32 So, and it is in the House rules they had to give me 20 minutes.
6:36 And so, then it was going to be me
6:38 with 20 minutes and Jim Jordan with 20 minutes.
6:40 Ironically, a guy that I like,
6:43 who has been leading the charge to get warrants in FISA,
6:46 but in this situation was for reauthorizing
6:49 a program for 40 days 45 days without warrants.
6:53 And at that moment, one of the staffers came over to me,
6:56 this is where it's getting surreal,
6:58 and says, "Jim Jordan would like to give half of his time to Jamie Raskin."
7:05 [laughter] This is the last scene in Animal Farm where
7:06 the the farmers and the pigs are like in it together.
7:10 And they said, "Would you object?" And I said, "No, what the hell?
7:13 Let them both have time." So,
7:14 I had 20 minutes and Jim had 10 and Jamie Raskin had 10.
7:18 And then, um to their credit, Keith Self from Texas, Chip Roy from Texas,
7:24 and uh Warren Davidson from Ohio joined me in this debate.
7:28 Some other people in spirit came and sat down to to offer their moral support.
7:33 They didn't need time to debate.
7:34 And we had a a good debate on this issue.
7:38 Look, the FBI has used this program
7:40 to uh basically run their dating app prospects through
7:47 the database to see what they can find
7:49 about them before they swipe right or swipe left.
7:52 What?
7:52 Yeah, that's the kind of abuse that's gone on.
7:55 They've used it on on Congress,
7:58 they've used it on the president, they've used it on political parties.
8:03 And people say, "Well, if there's if you're not doing anything wrong,
8:06 why do you care if the government spies on you?" Well,
8:08 it's the government's opinion of whether they like what you're doing or not.
8:11 Well, they used it on me and they got caught and no one was punished.
8:14 Yeah.
8:15 They've used it on Sheryl Atkinson,
8:17 spying on her, you know, spyware on her computer.
8:20 Uh they use it on the press.
8:23 Like this should concern everybody and we should And right
8:25 now we're in a 45-day extension because uh I did
8:28 call for the vote and um we had too many
8:32 Republicans and too many Democrats that voted for a clean extension.
8:37 So, let Can we just go through
8:38 the issues on which you disagreed with the president?
8:41 So, my read as a non-Kentucky citizen is that this race comes
8:46 down to the question of who is more on board with Trump,
8:50 who's more the MAGA guy,
8:51 you or the liberal you're running against funded by the casino owners.
8:57 Uh funded by Israel.
8:59 What are the issues that have separated you and Trump?
9:03 Can you just go through the list where the big issues where you have disagreed?
9:07 Um Let me Let me start with the ones I agree with.
9:10 Just real quick.
9:11 I voted to fund the wall,
9:12 I voted to keep men out of girls sports and the Olympics, I have voted
9:16 Wait, I've read that you were totally for mass migration,
9:19 illegal migration, that you love transgenderism.
9:24 You were encouraging people to castrate their sons.
9:26 That's not true.
9:27 Absolutely false.
9:28 I signed a an amicus brief to the Supreme Court
9:32 to support the repeal of birthright
9:34 citizenship for illegal children of illegals.
9:37 Um I've I've done all of these.
9:39 I voted for the Save Act, which is to require photo ID in federal elections.
9:45 Uh if you want to run for school board and or HOA, do whatever you want,
9:49 but if you're going to vote in a federal election,
9:50 you got to have an ID and prove you're an American citizen.
9:53 I've voted for these things.
9:55 Um I voted for DOD.
9:57 I've voted for all of that stuff.
10:00 Um but let's talk about the things where I have been an obstructionist.
10:05 Um most recently, they tried to put immunity
10:07 for pesticides and herbicides in the farm bill.
10:13 Immunity?
10:12 Immunity from liability and a ban on any state,
10:15 let's say a state finds out that one
10:18 of these chemicals causes cancer and if it's,
10:21 you know, applied in a certain way.
10:23 Right now, they're trying to ban any state's ability
10:26 to warn its citizens that that product causes cancer.
10:31 What?
10:30 Yes.
10:30 So, it would be a violation of the First Amendment,
10:34 um a violation of the 10th Amendment.
10:36 They had this in the base second.
10:38 So, if you say something crazy on this show, you can be sued.
10:42 But if you make some poison that gives people cancer and kills their kids,
10:45 you can't be sued because you have, quote,
10:47 immunity along with the vaccine makers given by Congress?
10:52 Correct.
10:51 And well, they were By the way, that's in front of the Supreme Court right now.
10:55 I went and listened to the oral arguments in the Supreme Court on this issue.
10:59 And they said in the oral arguments
11:01 that Congress could decide this issue, right?
11:04 And so, it was stuck in the farm bill and um I
11:07 did work with Democrats to offer an amendment to strip this out.
11:11 Anna Paulina Luna offered an identical amendment.
11:14 Her amendment was allowed to vote.
11:16 And we got enough Republicans and Democrats
11:19 to vote to take this out of the bill.
11:21 So, if you're saying that I'm an obstructionist
11:24 and I work with Democrats, it is true.
11:26 If you're trying to poison Americans that I will cross the aisle.
11:30 immunity right from tort law.
11:32 Like, why don't I get immunity?
11:34 Which is state law, by the way.
11:35 This would be They're not They're The vaccine immunity is wrong.
11:40 It's bad enough, but at least they pretend there's
11:42 some federal court will then take care of the problem.
11:45 Here they were pros- proposing that nobody you could get a venue nowhere.
11:50 By the way, that's a violation of the 7th Amendment to the Constitution.
11:54 It's in the Bill of Rights.
11:55 It says you have a right to a jury trial.
11:58 And they're taking away first amendment, 7th amendment, and 10th amendment.
12:02 Why would Trump want that?
12:05 Uh it's I think he's a busy guy.
12:08 And I think um he's not paying attention to this.
12:12 Although I will caution listeners that when I went to the Supreme Court
12:18 it was very much like the debate that I had in Congress on FISA.
12:25 There were actually three attorneys, not two.
12:27 Usually in the Supreme Court there attorneys
12:29 arguing the plaintiff side and the defendant side.
12:32 In this case, the US DOJ joined the German company Bayer,
12:39 Bayer Monsanto, who makes glyphosate in arguments.
12:43 So, the DOJ helped a German company make the point
12:47 that they should be immune from any state liability.
12:50 A German company should be immune from lawsuits
12:53 by Americans if it turns out their product kills them.
12:55 Correct.
12:57 This is so bonkers.
12:58 I It's hard to believe that's I mean, you can you know,
13:01 there's an argument about is it worth it to put dangerous chemicals
13:04 on farmland because maybe the benefits outweigh the risks or I don't know.
13:09 There's like an argument.
13:10 What could possibly be the argument for stripping
13:13 people's rights to redress if the product is faulty?
13:19 It's because We we've got court corporate capture of I think of the EPA.
13:24 And so, But EPA was set up ostensibly to protect people and the environment,
13:29 but now they've morphed into an organization that would give immunity,
13:33 they would give get out of court free cards to any company that could
13:37 convince them to put a light label on it that says um you know,
13:42 a warning label instead of a danger label, right?
13:45 Wait, so the EPA was in favor of giving
13:48 full liability protection to Bayer Monsanto out of Germany?
13:53 Correct.
13:53 Who's running the EPA?
13:55 Uh Lee Zeldin right now.
13:57 And he was for that?
13:59 Uh this case predates him, but it's going on right now under him.
14:04 And you might think the EPA,
14:06 the federal EPA is going to argue for as much authority as they can get.
14:11 And so they would like and the corporations
14:13 would love to have one-stop shopping.
14:15 They don't want to be subject to courtrooms in 50 different states.
14:20 They want to be able to say, "Well,
14:22 we're we got a get out of court free card because the EPA
14:25 said we don't need to put a skull and crossbones on this product.
14:28 All we need's a little warning label on it."
14:31 Um I know we've gone deep into that issue,
14:34 but let me tell you why it's important because the president is
14:37 the president and we're in the majority because there was a coalition formed.
14:41 I do believe that he and his advisers were genius
14:44 in setting up this coalition and I was part of it.
14:47 Um when I endorsed the president
14:50 to try to bring on libertarians and independents, but we also brought on Maha,
14:55 which is I was one of the people who helped put that together.
14:58 Yeah.
14:58 Cuz I believed that Well, then you're the genius.
14:59 I'm not a genius.
15:00 It's just like that seemed like an obvious issue.
15:02 It's obviously they told us banning smoking was going
15:05 to make us healthy and life expectancy went down.
15:07 I just noticed that and I'm like,
15:09 "This country's super unhealthy and why wouldn't you make it
15:13 easier for people to be healthier if they want to?"
15:17 So and by the way, I have a standalone bill, too,
15:19 to uh this is this is a no immunity for glyphosate act.
15:23 And I have Republican and Democrat co-sponsors on that, but it's
15:28 that's what Maha is and here's the problem.
15:30 If you keep if your DOJ and your USDA and your EPA
15:37 are all going to be captured by a German company and and argue
15:42 that Americans don't deserve their day in court if they're harmed
15:45 by a chemical that's being sold and mislabeled according to their state,
15:51 um, then you're going to alienate that part
15:53 of the Maha the Maha part of the coalition.
15:56 And that's another thing that could lead
15:57 to a bloodbath in the November elections.
16:01 to it's going to.
16:02 Yeah, there are a lot of sort of liberal
16:04 moms or moms who thought they were liberal,
16:06 but they just watched too much media,
16:09 but they basically [clears throat] had good values.
16:12 They're for their kids, they're for nature, you know, those are good values.
16:16 Those people are very disappointed and betrayed, I think.
16:20 Yeah, don't you?
16:21 I I think so.
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