Saagar BREAKS DOWN Trump's UFO File Release
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0:00 Turning now to UFOs, my favorite subject.
0:02 A lot of people have thought about this with consternation.
0:04 Is this a distraction from the government?
0:06 So, let's get this out of the way.
0:07 Almost certainly it's almost certainly is.
0:09 Now, does that mean that some
0:11 of the information released by the administration isn't interesting?
0:14 No, it doesn't.
0:15 Now, is anything earth-shattering?
0:16 Let me just say at the top, absolutely not.
0:18 It's not like we've gotten absolute confirmation of nothing.
0:21 However, as usual with government files, Emily,
0:23 the way that I like to look at it is what they choose
0:26 to show you is probably less important than what they chose not to show you.
0:31 And what they have chosen to show us is a few new things and you know,
0:35 with this aura of transparency, a lot of it is recycled video and or things
0:41 that anybody's been in the UFO the interest for quite some time,
0:44 very little in this will shock you.
0:46 But nonetheless, what we have learned from it so
0:49 far is that in terms of the transparency that's promised,
0:53 it basically confirms what a lot of us had already thought about the subject,
0:57 which is yeah, are there some videos
0:59 and others in US possession which are shocking?
1:02 Absolutely.
1:03 Certainly.
1:03 We'll show you some of those.
1:05 However, they're not like the best videos.
1:07 But the real stuff, if it exists, which I, you know,
1:10 support your right to believe, if it doesn't,
1:13 none of that is really in government possession.
1:15 And if it is in government possession,
1:17 it's either hyper compartmentalized or spread out amongst defense contractors.
1:21 It's set up in such a way where it can't even make
1:25 its way to the type of people who are trying to do disclosure.
1:28 And so, to give your general reaction and your read of these files,
1:32 I'll turn to Dave Grusch, one of the whistleblowers here,
1:35 who was gave an interview to Fox News.
1:38 And he's basically saying that the administration is being blocked,
1:41 and this is according to his own information,
1:43 by these elements within the government which may have
1:45 some insight into these files from any sort of release.
1:48 Let's take a listen.
1:49 What you're saying is we are on the cusp of of getting
1:52 a lot more details that deal with actual alien beings,
1:57 however you're going to describe them.
2:00 That's certainly up to the president's team, and I certainly support them,
2:03 but it has come to my attention actually recently as of today.
2:06 Uh there are some actors within certain intelligence agencies,
2:10 to include DIA and CIA specifically, that are actually blocking some
2:14 of the president's uh presidentially appointed team
2:17 in getting access and getting control on some of these historical records.
2:21 So, I I really expect that under
2:23 secretary of defense for intelligence and security,
2:25 uh Bradley Hantzel, uh to uh take care
2:28 of that as some of that's under his cognizance,
2:30 especially on the national program side,
2:32 which is directly under his organization,
2:34 uh to reveal some of the historical national security council records on this.
2:38 Right.
2:38 So, what Grusch is saying there is that the DIA and the CIA
2:41 are blocking some of the team from getting access and getting control.
2:44 And this is why this stuff really matters,
2:46 because you can only declassify what you have access to.
2:49 And remember, this has already happened with Epstein.
2:50 Oh, well, we found 89 million files.
2:54 That's just just this the case.
2:55 It's been going on since 2019.
2:57 Now, imagine a subject from 1947,
2:59 possibly uh even earlier, that you continue to look at.
3:02 And I tend to look not just at Dave,
3:05 but at many of the congressmen who have much
3:08 more of visibility into this subject than you or I.
3:11 From Tim uh Burchett or and or even some
3:14 of these Democrats like or Eric Burlison or, you know,
3:17 uh who who am I thinking of?
3:18 Jared Moskowitz.
3:19 Like all of them continue to just make comments where they're like,
3:21 "Yeah, it's not really everything uh that's been shown." Let's put uh C2,
3:25 and let's take a listen to that of a Democratic
3:27 Congressman Subramanian talking about the UFO files.
3:30 Let's take a listen.
3:31 No, I don't think so.
3:32 I'm underwhelmed by the release, honestly.
3:34 Uh given things that I've heard and things that I've seen,
3:37 uh I'd like more to be released.
3:39 The American people deserve to know what we do have
3:42 uh and any sort of evidence of of anything we've seen.
3:46 So, he's on the oversight committee,
3:47 and really what they're saying is either the things
3:50 that they've heard or the things that they've seen,
3:51 either in a classified setting or have been testified to from witnesses.
3:55 We just know that this is not the full breadth of it.
3:57 Now, there's some interesting stuff in there.
3:58 We'll get to it, you know,
3:59 a lot of This is always a problem with this subject is
4:01 that the stuff that's really flashy
4:03 attracts all the attention, which I understand.
4:06 I get it, you know, as somebody who's interested,
4:08 but it's really about the nitty-gritty whenever
4:11 it comes to the US military videos,
4:14 their own internal assessments, their knowledge and or not lack of knowledge,
4:19 let's say, on certain things.
4:20 And then the most important thing is when they have a video something they go,
4:22 "We have no idea what it is." And then what usually happens
4:26 in that no idea what it is is it just gets buried.
4:28 They're like, "Oh, wait, we're on deployment.
4:29 We don't want to deal with it." But that's the interesting thing, right?
4:32 And that's what a lot of these subject, you know,
4:34 these internal like Arrow and all these other departments were set up to find.
4:40 And every time they inevitably come out and be like,
4:41 "Oh, there's basically nothing to see here.
4:43 Don't worry about it." There's never been any real effort.
4:46 Trump allegedly is trying to get here to the bottom of it,
4:50 but the unfortunate thing is I think they see it
4:52 as like a fun thing as opposed to a very serious endeavor.
4:56 Now, that doesn't mean necessarily that nothing serious won't come out,
4:59 but I'm personally a little bit skeptical
5:01 in the terms that it's gone down so far,
5:03 and especially because the way it was
5:05 received initially is people are like, "Wow,
5:07 like the Apollo astronauts saw aliens." It's like,
5:10 "Guys, that's not what happened." Right?
5:11 Like what happened is they saw some shapes or And by the way,
5:14 all of this has been reported now for years.
5:16 Like we literally know all of this from the photos,
5:18 from the testimony of the astronauts and others.
5:20 I'm glad it's reigniting discussion,
5:22 but that doesn't necessarily mean there's any sort of smoking gun.
5:25 So, go ahead.
5:26 Well, I was just saying the feeding frenzy around this is
5:28 becoming so it's it's made it so much less serious
5:33 and accessible because this is obviously now a tool of theatrical
5:38 transparency because we're in an era where institutional trust is really low.
5:42 And so politicians have decided that it will make them
5:45 look really good to kind of flex their muscles of disclosure,
5:49 but nobody That's the thing with disclosure.
5:50 Nobody knows if you're actually fully disclosing anything.
5:53 And so, when you see some of these establishment
5:56 type politicians starting to enter the discussion,
6:00 when you start seeing uh you know,
6:02 really establishment-friendly scientists enter the discussion,
6:06 when you see whistleblowers enter the discussion,
6:08 and then you have to compare and contrast all of these different perspectives,
6:12 one person trashing the other person,
6:14 this person trashing it just becomes impossible
6:16 to disentangle what is limited hangout type information,
6:21 what is real, uh are things real but also limited hangouts?
6:25 Like this is the most This last several days, I think,
6:28 have been some of the most frustrating because it's a feeding frenzy.
6:33 There are a lot of new people trying to like pick at things
6:36 who haven't been deep in the space like you have for many years,
6:38 and it's just all so impossible now.
6:42 It's always been hard, but now it's it's gotten to where
6:45 it's actually like probably the government's plan,
6:47 it's almost impossible to really sort the wheat from the chaff.
6:52 I told Very well said.
6:53 So, we picked some of these videos which are actually interesting, nonetheless.
6:58 Let's put them up here on the screen.
7:00 We have some of They're all clearly labeled.
7:01 Actually, this one is the most interesting one.
7:03 INDOPACOM submitted a report of a UAP consisting of 1 minute and 39
7:07 seconds of video from an infrared sensor aboard a US military platform in 2024.
7:12 You can actually see it right there in front
7:13 of your screen just flying there among windmills.
7:16 I haven't seen somebody be able to geolocate it just yet,
7:19 but this is consistent with some of the videos that we've seen,
7:23 things that are flying just over the water at a rate
7:25 of speed which we don't exactly know how it's moving,
7:28 no visible forms of propulsion.
7:30 Now, I'm going to give the caveat that in many of these cases,
7:34 what ends up happening is it's a camera flare or it's,
7:37 you know, some sort of uh you know,
7:38 tech tech like some sort of technical glitch, let's say, within the system.
7:43 That's why you need rigorous review of all of these things
7:45 and you don't just put it to the side.
7:47 But this was an interesting video, definitely, for sure.
7:49 Let's go to the next one, shall we?
7:50 Uh so, what we have here is a report of a UAP
7:54 consisting of 9 seconds of video from an infrared sensor,
7:58 again, aboard a US military platform in 2024.
8:01 What is it?
8:02 I mean, it's a bit hard to say, right?
8:04 We can't exactly see,
8:05 it's kind of blurry uh from everything that we're able to to know.
8:09 I mean, at first glance,
8:11 it might look like almost like the space shuttle or something like that.
8:14 It could be a blimp, right?
8:16 But I don't think so,
8:17 just because of some of the things that have been ruled out now
8:20 in the past and especially that's usually you're very a- able to uh identify.
8:25 However, I should Again, I always give the caveat with these things,
8:27 sometimes it's a weather balloon.
8:29 Now, that's also been used as an excuse, like at Roswell.
8:32 Let's go to the next one, shall we?
8:34 Okay, here we have NORCOM submitted a report here of a UAP consisting of 21
8:39 seconds of video from an infrared sensor
8:42 aboard a US military platform, again, in 2024.
8:45 You know why these are interesting to me?
8:47 Is the windmill video and other is we have had so
8:51 many reports over the years now about UAPs with no visible means
8:56 of propulsion that can move in all of these different ways
8:59 and it's usually over bodies of water and it's also they Again,
9:04 this is not I know this sounds crazy,
9:05 but what the testimony that comes from it are
9:08 they ability to move both underwater and over it, right?
9:12 And so, you actually have some reports right up
9:13 things going into the ocean or out of the ocean.
9:16 So, the fact is that you actually were able
9:18 to see some of these things very, very high,
9:20 you know, over the water and it's in a small
9:22 uh type of uh cra- or at least small movement.
9:26 is from 2024.
9:27 This is 20- All of these were from 2024.
9:29 That That's actually what kind of made it interesting.
9:31 I will say there's several videos which are
9:33 coming out in a new documentary by Jeremy Corbell.
9:36 He's got eight out of 24 videos, which members of Congress want to be released.
9:39 So, those videos will all be able to see in a documentary.
9:42 And again, many of these are leaked or, you know,
9:44 provided to them, which they heavily scrutinize.
9:46 And they do so uh to get it out because of things
9:49 like this, where they don't want it to be covered up.
9:52 Many others continue to say that there are
9:54 better videos inside of the Department of Defense,
9:57 which haven't been released, or the CIA and some That's what Avi Loeb
10:00 I've heard I've heard about these for years.
10:02 At certain point, I'm not going to lie, you know,
10:03 it's getting frustrating uh that they're not being released.
10:06 But so far, I mean, I wouldn't compare this to the Epstein release.
10:10 I wouldn't compare it to Actually, you know,
10:13 let's take the Epstein one as a good example.
10:15 Why did we ultimately get what we got with Epstein, which is not everything?
10:20 Yes.
10:18 It was a It was a huge movement behind Ro Khanna
10:22 and Thomas Massie to have a bill that was signed by Congress.
10:25 Massie made a good point in his interview
10:27 with Tucker Carlson is that in the long run,
10:30 this this bill survives all administrations.
10:33 It's not just a resolution.
10:34 So, even if this current administration isn't doing what it's supposed to do,
10:38 in the future, they future administrations still have to comply with the bill.
10:42 Well, it's also and he told Ryan and me here that it's prosecutable.
10:46 So, they added that in the bill,
10:47 which I think went really under the media's radar.
10:50 That was part of how I mean, people were upset about the bill because
10:53 it had national security exemptions and the like.
10:55 And so, we were talking to Massie about it and he said,
10:57 "Well, if there's another administration
10:59 that comes in and is doggedly anti-Trump,
11:02 and they find evidence that some of what
11:04 Pam Bondi did not release was not national security,
11:08 was not relevant to national security, then guess what?
11:11 You're on the hook still." Yeah, I think it is Look,
11:14 I just think that that's good evidence and there's a reason
11:16 that almost every bill like that hasn't moved through Congress.
11:19 And so, to my UFO friends,
11:21 what I would say is we don't we don't rely on executive orders.
11:24 We don't rely on any of that.
11:26 If you really want to see something happen, then you're going to need a bill.
11:28 And by the way, don't forget the JFK Records Act was signed in what, 1991?
11:33 I was going to say even a bill
11:34 Still even a bill isn't necessarily going to get you everything that you need.
11:37 It's going to be a long slog, all right?
11:39 And so look, we got something that's interesting,
11:41 but did it prove, you know, any did it prove really anything?
11:45 Not really.
11:45 We got a few interesting videos out of it and you know, that's good,
11:48 but I'm not I'm going to treat it
11:49 with some of the skepticism that I think it deserves.
11:51 I just want to say that video's
11:52 from 2024 as we're just talking about those videos.
11:54 2024, JFK 1963.
11:57 We heard up until what, the Biden administration?
11:59 Actually early Trump administration Trump 2.0 if I'm remembering correctly,
12:02 that people alive could be harmed by the release of the JFK files.
12:06 And so any bill that you get is going
12:08 to have national security exemptions and you were going
12:11 to hear the same damn thing for the next
12:13 100 years about people who were alive or 80 years,
12:16 people who were alive in 2024 who could theoretically be
12:18 harmed by releases of things from 2024, let alone 1947.
12:23 I'm sure they still have some excuse why things
12:25 from 1947 can't be released because of people who are impacted,
12:29 affected potentially.
12:30 So yeah, I mean it's just you'll you'll always be putting together the pieces
12:34 of a puzzle without knowing what the picture of in the puzzle looks like, right?
12:38 Like you don't have the box and you
12:40 so you don't know when the puzzle is complete,
12:42 you don't know what the picture is.
12:43 You're just assembling all of the different pieces or trying to.
12:46 And some of them are to a different puzzle.
12:48 Some of them are fake pieces.
12:50 Yeah, some of them are decoy pieces.
12:51 Very well said.
12:52 All right, let's move on.
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