From 2018: Media mogul Ted Turner
CBS Sunday Morning
0:00 Any list of the legends of American business
0:03 would have to include the name Ted Turner.
0:07 Bold and frequently controversial,
0:10 Turner was very much a disruptor in his prime.
0:14 But time and age have put him in a reflective mood,
0:17 as senior contributor Ted Cppel found when
0:20 he visited Turner at his Montana ranch.
0:30 You ever ride your whole property here?
0:34 No,
0:34 but I've ridden quite a bit of it.
0:36 You need a wide lens on your camera to capture the many sides of Ted Turner,
0:43 especially out here on his sprawling
0:46 113,000 acre ranch outside Bosezeman, Montana.
0:51 You've always been a bit of a dreamer, haven't you?
0:54 Well, what a lot of my dreams have come true.
0:56 Yes, they have.
0:58 Hey, Taylor, what did we We We were 15 and 38 yesterday.
1:02 60 Minutes has been covering the fulfillment
1:04 of those dreams for almost 40 years.
1:08 He's just convinced he can do almost anything he sets out to do.
1:12 And so far, he's been right.
1:15 Get the bullpen ready, Dodgers.
1:17 When Harry Reisner made that observation, Ted Turner had not yet created CNN,
1:23 but he had bought the Atlanta Braves and the Atlanta Hawks.
1:31 And by transmitting all those baseball and basketball
1:34 games via satellite to cable stations around the country,
1:39 Turner transformed his not very successful local Atlanta TV station.
1:44 Super family entertainment comes your way on Atlanta's WTBS
1:49 into his own creation which he dubbed a super station
1:54 programming.
1:54 You know, we've got the best of any independent station.
1:59 Around the same time, Turner, a man of many parts,
2:02 had already skippered the yacht courageous to a four
2:05 nothing sweep of Australia in the America's Cup,
2:09 arguably the world's most prestigious yaching race.
2:15 I'm a lot of different people if you don't know that by now.
2:17 I'm a I'm a multifaceted person.
2:20 I've got a lot of different personalities.
2:22 You ought to see me at midnight on the full moon.
2:30 By the time Diane Sawyer got to Turner in 1986, CNN was well up and running.
2:36 We intend to cover all the news all the time.
2:39 And Ted had his sights on acquiring CBS.
2:44 What happened to the man who said that CBS
2:46 was a cheap wh house taken over by sleas artists?
2:51 I said that years ago.
2:53 I was more of a crusader then than I am uh than I am now.
2:57 But uh I really felt that way at the time.
3:01 Ted Turner was a loud practitioner of political incorrectness years
3:06 before Donald Trump rode that pony into the White House.
3:10 Italians.
3:10 Italians.
3:11 Imagine the Italians at war.
3:13 I mean, what a joke.
3:14 They didn't belong in the last war.
3:16 They were sorry they were in it.
3:17 They were glad to get out of it.
3:19 You know, they'd rather be involved in crime
3:21 and just making some wine and having a good time.
3:25 They called him the mouth from the south, captain outrageous.
3:30 But when Turner sat down with Mike Wallace in 2003,
3:34 CNN was already an international powerhouse,
3:38 and Ted Turner had begun putting his money where his mouth had been.
3:43 I got a letter saying that I was going to be
3:44 honored by the United Nations Association as their man of the year.
3:48 And I thought, well, what am I going to say?
3:50 Cuz I had to make a little speech.
3:52 What am I going to say?
3:53 Since money talks, money.
3:55 Give him a lot of money.
3:56 I said, "How much you going to give him?" I said,
3:58 "He's got to, you know, he's got to get in the newspapers.
4:01 It's got to be a big figure.
4:02 How about a how about a billion?" You know, I mean, and he did.
4:06 Turner fulfilled his pledge of $1 billion to the United Nations.
4:12 He also contributed somewhere north of $250 million toward limiting
4:18 the spread of nuclear weapons out of the former Soviet Union.
4:23 Oh, mama mia.
4:25 That's a real nice fish.
4:27 As Morley Safford discovered in 2008 though,
4:30 Turner sometimes got his numbers a little confused as in this conversation
4:36 about the disastrous merger between Time Warner CNN and AOL.
4:43 You were losing nearly $10 million a day for 2 and 1/2 years.
4:47 A million a day.
4:48 A million a day for two and a half years.
4:50 Wait a minute.
4:50 That'd be 700 million.
4:52 You're right.
4:52 10 million a day.
4:53 I listen I it didn't I get thousands, millions and billions mixed up.
4:58 The confusion, the episodes of outrageous behavior,
5:02 the euphoric highs and dark lows were
5:05 initially diagnosed as symptoms of manic depression.
5:10 Turner says that was a misdiagnosis, but he openly acknowledges having
5:16 a progressive brain disorder called Louisbody dementia.
5:22 Can you tell us what that is?
5:24 It's a um mild case of what people have as Alzheimer's.
5:32 It's it's similar to that, but not nearly as bad.
5:36 Alzheimer's is fatal.
5:39 Thank goodness that I don't have that.
5:44 But I also got um what's I can't remember the name of it.
5:53 That's all right.
5:54 Tell me what the It's dementia.
5:56 I can't remember what my what my disease is.
6:00 It's an unpleasant thing to remember.
6:02 So Matt
6:03 Yeah.
6:03 So just tell me what the what the symptoms are.
6:06 I mean one of the symptoms we're seeing right now.
6:08 You can't remember what it was you wanted to tell me.
6:12 But frankly, Ted, at at our age, you know, not being able to remember things
6:18 is pretty common.
6:19 Is pretty common.
6:20 I I know.
6:21 I know.
6:22 I know that.
6:23 But it's more extreme with you.
6:27 Tired, exhausted.
6:29 That's main symptoms.
6:31 And and forgetfulness.
6:34 Lift six.
6:35 Down and hold.
6:36 Ted Turner begins most mornings these days with some yoga.
6:41 He has never been a quitter.
6:43 His willingness to be shown on network television in what is certainly
6:47 a diminished state is a testament to courage and a surprising absence of vanity.
6:55 What do you think?
6:56 Looks pretty good.
6:58 Turner has been and remains to this day a passionate environmentalist.
7:04 Oh, give me land.
7:06 Lots of land under starry skies above.
7:10 Don't fence me in.
7:12 I'm not buying any more land.
7:14 I've got enough.
7:17 Yes.
7:17 Over the years, Turner has acquired roughly 2 million acres of land.
7:22 Most, but not all of it in the United States.
7:25 Much of it devoted to restoring the American bison.
7:31 Once there were literally tens of millions of bison in the American West.
7:36 By the early 1900s, they'd been slaughtered almost to the point of extinction.
7:42 Only a few hundred left.
7:46 So, how many bison do we have now in the United States?
7:49 Roughly, I think it's about 300,000.
7:53 Really?
7:52 And there's 200,000 in Canada.
7:54 So, there's about a half a million.
7:58 So, you saved the bison race.
8:00 Well, I don't know.
8:01 I We did it together.
8:04 Turner has a national chain of 45
8:07 restaurants under the name Ted's Montana Grill.
8:12 They serve bison.
8:15 If we make money raising bison,
8:17 and we make more money raising bison than we
8:20 do raising cattle on the same amount of acreage,
8:24 then uh the bison will be protected.
8:29 Turner has more than 50,000 bison grazing on his various ranches.
8:35 Hello.
8:37 Early one evening, we drove to a remote section of the ranch
8:41 in the hope of seeing or at least hearing some wolves.
8:46 It's hit or miss.
8:47 It's hit or it's a patient man's game.
8:51 Right now, we're a couple of old geysers looking into the sun.
8:55 We can't see a damn thing.
8:58 We were just killing time, chewing the fat.
9:01 I wondered if Turner had ever considered politics.
9:06 What about you?
9:07 Were you ever tempted to get into the ring?
9:11 Not really.
9:12 A little bit.
9:14 Closest I came to running for for office was when I was married to Jane Fonda.
9:21 And when I discussed it with her, she was married to one politician, Tom Hayden.
9:28 Yeah.
9:28 And she said, you know, if if you run for office, you run alone.
9:36 Were you thinking about going for the brass ring for the for the big job?
9:40 I was thinking I didn't think very much about it,
9:44 but I didn't see any point in doing anything else but that.
9:49 So, you were thinking about the White House?
9:50 Sure.
9:53 Drive and ambition were qualities his father instilled in Ted Turner.
10:00 I think your father may have had the greatest impact on your life.
10:04 Would you agree with that?
10:05 Of any individual?
10:07 Of any individual?
10:08 Probably.
10:11 Yeah.
10:11 And he took his own life at a young age.
10:15 53.
10:15 Yeah.
10:15 Well, that's young.
10:17 You told me yesterday that he he'd left you a note.
10:21 Do you mind telling me what was in the note?
10:23 Well, he just said he was sorry that he got in.
10:29 He felt like he was in over his head, but he wasn't.
10:33 He just apologized.
10:38 Sad.
10:40 I loved him very much.
10:41 and he was a hero of mine.
10:48 As you get older now, as you go into the last few chapters of your life,
10:58 do you ever think about suicide?
11:01 No.
11:02 I've got five children and 14 grandchildren,
11:06 and I wouldn't put them through that.
11:08 That was painful.
11:10 I it was painful for me.
11:12 I know when my father did it and I'm not going to uh
11:19 even think about doing anything like that for my children and grandchildren.
11:25 Even as he struggles with the symptoms of Louisbody dementia,
11:29 Ted Turner continues to engage great challenges.
11:34 Threats to the environment, nuclear war,
11:37 echoes perhaps of a poem he memorized as a classics major at Brown University,
11:44 recalling an ancient hero confronting insurmountable odds.
11:50 Then stepped forward Horatius, the captain of the gate.
11:55 He said, "To every man of woman born, death cometh soon or late,
11:59 and how can man die better than facing fearful odds for the ashes
12:05 of his fathers and the temples of his gods?" He down the bridge,
12:10 Sir Counsel, with all the speed you may.
12:14 I, with but two beside me, will hold the foe in play.
12:19 On Yandara span a thousand, might well be stopped by three.
12:24 Now, who will stand on either hand and guard the bridge with me?
12:30 How was Horatius at the bridge?
12:32 And that on the eve of his 80th birthday is Ted Turner.