Your Mind Is Programmed To Keep You Stuck (Here's How To Rewrite It) | Brendon Burchard
Lewis Howes
0:00 Our preferences are our ceiling.
0:02 Everybody listening right now,
0:04 you have a preference and you've had it your entire
0:06 life of how much problem complexity you wanted to take on.
0:10 I prefer hard problems, complex multivariant problems.
0:15 Other people that go, you know what, I like no problems.
0:19 No problem people never become great.
0:22 Number one New York Times bestselling author
0:24 and the author of high performance habits,
0:26 how extraordinary people become that way.
0:29 We have the inspiring Brendan Bashard in the house.
0:32 We read all these like little books on habits like do this little habit,
0:35 do this little habit, this, you know,
0:36 tiny habit, incremental habit, atomic habit, all all these.
0:39 They're great except they sold this story to the world that like,
0:43 oh, make it easy for yourself.
0:45 The way to have a great habit is make it easy.
0:47 I'm like, go talk to high performers.
0:49 Is it easy?
0:50 Did you set it up to try to be easy?
0:51 They're like, no, actually I kind of did it the hard way and bumbled in.
0:55 We've been around people at the highest level of what
0:58 they do and there's certain non-negotiables that they seem to have.
1:02 What is underneath the non-negotiables that support
1:06 them to actually accomplishing their wildest dreams?
1:09 This is a huge insight I didn't get until maybe 4 years ago.
1:16 You have coached some of the biggest influencers,
1:19 business leaders, sports athletes,
1:22 spiritual leaders on the planet for over a decade, almost two decades now.
1:29 And we both have, you've coached them, I've interviewed a lot of them.
1:33 We've been around people at the highest level of what they do.
1:39 Mh.
1:38 And there's certain non-negotiables that they seem to have.
1:42 Mh.
1:42 whether it be around their health,
1:43 around their relationships, around business, there's certain non-negotiables.
1:47 And I'm curious, is there a few
1:49 key non-negotiables that the greatest leaders have?
1:52 And everyone's got different personalities
1:54 and styles on how they've gotten there, right?
1:56 But what is underneath the non-negotiables that support
2:00 them to actually accomplishing their wildest dreams?
2:03 I love this.
2:04 Uh, this is a huge insight I didn't get until maybe four years ago.
2:09 The non-negotiable doesn't sound like non-negotiable, but it is.
2:12 It is that their preferences do not
2:16 win over their performance or their aspirational vision.
2:21 What does that mean?
2:22 Like I prefer to have sugar all day.
2:25 Totally.
2:25 But I'm not going to eat sugar all day.
2:27 Yeah.
2:27 And in performance, what I found out is like our preferences are our ceiling.
2:33 Most people have a way they prefer their life to be.
2:36 And more importantly, there's some very specific things we'll talk
2:39 about preferences that prevent them from even trying.
2:41 So, for example, uh everybody listening right now,
2:44 you have a preference and you've had your entire life,
2:46 whether you're conscious or unconscious,
2:48 you had a preference of how much problem complexity you wanted to take on,
2:55 right?
2:56 Elon Musk goes, I'm willing to take on the problem of going to Mars
3:00 and running a car company and doing this and doing and it's all good.
3:04 Yes, I will take on this much problem complexity.
3:07 I prefer hard problems.
3:10 I prefer complex multivariant problems.
3:14 Other people they go, you know what?
3:16 I like no problems.
3:19 No problem people never become great.
3:22 Other people, they go, you know,
3:24 I just want this one problem or this two problem,
3:26 but they're not going to go very far.
3:28 I'll give you an example.
3:30 Uh, you know, when I was learning math in elementary school, I was great.
3:34 I was getting A's.
3:36 When we got into like algebra trig two and three,
3:39 I didn't like the complexity of using the calculator
3:42 to figure this out and this multi-step problem solving.
3:46 It freaked me out.
3:47 It had nothing to do with my childhood,
3:50 had nothing to do with my spirituality, had nothing to do with my values.
3:54 It was just like people have a preference
3:57 of problem complexity and that is most people's ceiling.
4:01 Interesting.
4:01 Is there a way to break through the preference of your what would you call it?
4:07 The what ceiling?
4:08 The complexity ceiling.
4:09 Really?
4:10 Is there a way to break through the preference
4:11 or to expand the pallet to expand the plate of complexity?
4:19 Yeah.
4:18 Of problem solving and make it seem like it's actually easy.
4:22 Yeah.
4:22 That's the non-negotiable.
4:25 They don't care if it seems easy.
4:27 They do it anyway.
4:28 We read all these like little books on habits like do this little habit,
4:31 do this little habit, this, you know,
4:32 tiny habit, incremental habit, atomic habit, all all these.
4:35 They're great except they sold this story to the world that like,
4:39 oh, you know, it make it easy for yourself.
4:43 The way to have a great habit is to make it easy.
4:44 I'm like, go talk to high performers.
4:46 Is it easy?
4:48 Did you set it up to try to be easy?
4:49 They're like, "No, actually, I kind of did it the hard way and bumbled in."
4:53 The non-negotiable is they don't tell themselves it should be easy.
4:58 They don't expect it to be easy.
5:00 They honor the struggle.
5:01 They go, "I know what I'm going after is impossible, is hard.
5:05 No one's done it before." When you read Jeff Bezos investors letters,
5:08 when you listen to Elon Musk, when you lead listen to Jensen, you know, Nvidia,
5:13 it's like Nvidia is like, "It's supposed to be hard.
5:16 It's supposed to be brutal.
5:18 That's why you're achieving greatness.
5:19 You're taking on problems that most people were like,
5:22 I don't want to solve that.
5:24 Detroit did not want to solve electric vehicles.
5:27 It was too hard of a problem in their system.
5:30 It was not elegant.
5:32 So Detroit said, I guess we're not going to do that.
5:33 And Tesla rolled in.
5:35 And so you can really look back at your life and go,
5:39 where did I really struggle?
5:40 Where did I really fail?
5:41 Where did it not go well?
5:43 And I promise you, you had a preference.
5:46 I don't want to take on problems that hard.
5:48 Second thing they did in terms of preferences, we all have people preferences.
5:55 We have people preferences in depth and frequency and volume.
6:01 Let me give an example because this I know this is being very specific,
6:03 but this is the high performance stuff.
6:04 This is like the differentiator in what makes somebody great.
6:09 Those who don't achieve greatness, they don't like people.
6:14 They don't want to deal with people.
6:15 They want to be solo.
6:16 They don't have relationship depth because guess what?
6:19 To go deep with somebody that introduces problems,
6:23 right?
6:23 Uh when you want to make a massive impact in the world, guess what?
6:26 You have to deal with more people.
6:29 You want a major major difference in the world,
6:30 you have to deal with more people more often.
6:32 team.
6:35 But a lot of people, and by the way, I was at this way at some point,
6:39 and I want to really emphasize
6:40 this to everyone listening because it's not like uh,
6:44 you know, I didn't have these preferences, too.
6:46 For me, I'm like the nutty professor in the morning.
6:48 I want to be by myself.
6:50 I want to be solo.
6:51 I'm really great.
6:52 I mean, if I was in Pluribabus, if I was the last person alive,
6:55 I think I could make it a year or two without worrying about people.
6:58 I'm really good solo.
6:59 Yeah.
6:59 Yeah.
7:00 And that took me to, you know, uh, just under eight figures in revenue.
7:05 And sometime I want to reach more people, make a bigger difference.
7:07 I need a bigger team.
7:09 Now, that is not my preference.
7:12 Having a team is not my preference.
7:14 If you said, "Well, Brendan, have a team.
7:16 Maybe my preference could go up to five people, right?
7:19 Could I ever imagine over a hundred?" No way.
7:23 A 100 employees is against my preference.
7:26 But the question is, does my preference win?
7:29 or does the vision win?
7:31 Interesting.
7:31 So, who do you have to become to overcome the preference of the ceiling
7:35 that you currently have in order to get
7:37 to the next level of accomplishing the vision?
7:40 Yeah, you must who do you have to become?
7:42 You have to become the person who's
7:43 willing to set a priority of your aspirational
7:46 self or the concrete vision that is more important than your natural style.
7:52 Gosh, this is why I tell people everyone thinks
7:55 that their life ceiling is based on circumstance or their psychology.
7:59 Well, Bren, I'm an introvert or I'm an extrovert or I'm open.
8:01 I'm like, actually, your preferences correlate more
8:04 to your success than your quote unquote psychology.
8:08 Really?
8:07 Yeah.
8:08 Cuz guess what?
8:09 Think about an introvert expert and whether they succeed or not.
8:13 Well, we could say, well, it's just, you know,
8:15 it's some kind of false dichotomy there that only one or the other can succeed.
8:19 But no, the layering effect that actually happens on top
8:22 of those things is do you take on complex problems or not?
8:27 Can you stay with the hard problem for a long
8:29 time that we might maybe we can call that some
8:33 element of conscientiousness in the you know the big five
8:36 personality traits but it's not necessarily extroverts as an example.
8:40 I'm an extrovert at like halfway.
8:43 I'm like half extrovert, half introvert.
8:46 But I have a very strong preference about
8:47 the volume of people and how long I'm with people.
8:51 Yes.
8:51 Then then I freak out.
8:51 So it's not about necessarily the trait.
8:53 It's about these preferences.
8:56 So if a person is not willing to overcome their preferences,
8:59 their natural style their you know their their natural preference for problems
9:06 or people depth complexity um they won't achieve more than their natural style.
9:14 My natural sty is be home, be alone, uh not work that hard.
9:19 Uh pina colada time,
9:21 relax, sleep in relax like what makes me comfortable and natural.
9:27 For example, you and I've talked about
9:28 this and you've coached me so well about like this.
9:32 I'm it being the subject of an interview is very hard for me.
9:37 It is not natural.
9:38 It's why you can look for, you know, 20 years now.
9:42 My career was direct to camera or on stage teaching solo curriculum.
9:47 Yeah.
9:47 No one's there.
9:48 It's you to a camera.
9:50 No one's watching you.
9:50 No one's there.
9:51 Or live on stage, too.
9:53 But yeah,
9:54 it's you teaching, but not someone questioning you or asking you questions.
9:57 Yeah.
9:58 But that preference only allowed me to reach so many people.
10:01 If I want to get my message out, I had to learn to talk.
10:04 I had to learn public speaking.
10:06 I had to learn video.
10:06 I had to learn to do interviews.
10:08 None of that is my preference.
10:10 So you must understand high performers override their preferences.
10:15 They choose a priority that is bigger than preference.
10:17 And that priority is a future vision, a concrete vision or an aspirational self.
10:21 That's the difference maker.
10:23 That's really the difference maker.
10:24 If someone wants to be successful, but they have a ceiling of success
10:30 or a belief of success or how much they could actually achieve.
10:34 If their success goes greater than the ceiling that they have in their mind,
10:39 yeah,
10:39 if they earn more than they think they're supposed to earn,
10:41 if they get more followers than they ever imagined was possible,
10:44 if they get an award that they didn't even know was possible, whatever it is,
10:47 they get some type of a success their mind didn't even think it was possible.
10:51 who went beyond their success preference.
10:56 What happens if they don't believe they're meant to accomplish that?
11:00 Mhm.
11:00 Two big things that everyone knows commonly.
11:03 Number one, imposter syndrome.
11:07 You know, yeah, I'm in this room with these stars,
11:10 but I don't really belong here, you know?
11:13 Or number two, which is the real insidious thing is lack of fulfillment.
11:20 really even when you succeed and achieve
11:22 and accomplish beyond your wildest dreams.
11:24 So many people who have so much money, so much fame,
11:27 so much success, so much external achievement
11:29 and also inner peace are not fulfilled.
11:32 And here's the crazy thing is think about this.
11:36 You and I have talked a lot about belief.
11:38 You have this amazing work on your on your greatness mindset book.
11:42 Belief is such a primary thing for us.
11:46 But what is belief?
11:49 Okay, I believe that something is possible.
11:52 I have faith in this motion, right?
11:56 I believe this thing will turn out.
11:57 I believe in myself.
11:59 I believe it will turn out.
12:02 Mhm.
12:01 When you achieve, if you believed it and you achieved it,
12:06 you fulfilled the belief.
12:11 Yes.
12:11 So fulfillment is I saw it, I believed it, I manifested, it happened.
12:16 So now I feel fulfilled.
12:17 I fulfilled the belief.
12:20 I fulfilled the faith.
12:22 If something just amazing happens,
12:24 it might happen.
12:25 You might appreciate it.
12:26 You might be happy for it.
12:27 You might be grateful to God for it, but you won't sense fulfillment because you
12:31 never believed for it in the first place.
12:33 So the belief was never fulfilled.
12:36 You just have the result.
12:37 Interesting.
12:37 And that's why people who are handed, you know, a bag from their parents,
12:42 people who win a lottery,
12:44 people who succeed in their first thing, but they didn't really try.
12:50 You follow them up years later, they've lost the money.
12:54 Uh they don't feel like they belong.
12:56 They have all this like like sense of inadequacy
13:02 because they got something they didn't earn or believe for.
13:04 M
13:05 it's very dangerous to just give people tons
13:08 of stuff because they can become entitled, right?
13:10 And I know that's a controversial word.
13:12 I'm not using that socially.
13:13 I'm just using that in terms of our own belief systems.
13:16 If we just get stuff, we tend to we didn't do the work.
13:19 We didn't believe for it, labor for it, desire for it.
13:22 And so when it happened, it was kind of like, wow, that's amazing.
13:25 But there's no fulfillment and there's no identity there,
13:28 which is the aspect of imposter syndrome.
13:30 So, if someone's struggling right now or they're
13:32 just kind of going through the motions and they're
13:34 not clear on what they want in their life
13:36 and they start to gain clarity and they say,
13:39 "Okay, I know I don't want to be in this current situation that I'm in.
13:42 I want to get out of this stuck
13:43 feeling and I want to create something more powerful,
13:46 more empowering, bigger for my life.
13:48 I want to accomplish something or I want to
13:50 break through a certain financial limit.
13:51 Whatever it might be, what do they need to do first?
13:56 Is it get clear on what they want exactly?
14:00 Is it start to reinforce new beliefs of what is
14:04 possible even if they've never actually accomplished those things before
14:07 that it is possible or is it just about taking
14:10 action and then allowing for things to unfold through the action?
14:15 What would you say is the first step there?
14:18 Yeah, I think first step is always job one.
14:22 Job one is no matter what your goal is, what your dream is,
14:24 where you're at in your life, you have one job.
14:27 Job one is teaching yourself to summon the best of who you are.
14:33 That's where it begins.
14:34 Like you don't have to have a distant clarity.
14:35 It's like, okay, how how do I pull the best
14:37 out of myself today to deal with my difficulties,
14:40 my challenges, the awful things in my life, you know?
14:43 Let's start there.
14:44 So, I I love clarity as a concept.
14:46 And a lot of people like me use that as a concept of a future aspirational self.
14:50 Here's where I'm going.
14:51 Here's what I want in the future.
14:52 Yeah.
14:53 I'm going to give people an acronym right now.
14:55 And the acronym is free.
14:56 F re and it'll just simple framework for people to remember like
15:01 what you want the clarity that you want uh the the the thing
15:05 that will take you to the next level is f re e
15:08 number one the f is about feeling you're after an aspirational feeling
15:14 in life and you need to clarify what that is like how
15:17 do I really want to feel each day for example I know I
15:20 want to feel centered I want to feel mentally strong and I want
15:25 to be bold like I want to feel that like that's an example.
15:29 Some people go, "Oh, I just want to feel loved,
15:33 cared for, and relaxed." What whatever it is for you,
15:36 that's a preference right now.
15:38 It will probably change later.
15:39 It's just a current preference.
15:40 Let's just identify what's the feeling you want.
15:43 And your job one each day is to live
15:45 into that feeling to generate the feelings you want.
15:48 You've got to create it.
15:48 It's not just it's not gonna magically I want to feel
15:51 this way and I'm waiting for the feeling to happen.
15:53 When's someone going to make me feel this way?
15:55 Yeah,
15:56 you need to bring the feeling, right?
15:57 That's it.
15:58 You need to be generative.
15:58 Yeah.
15:59 So, it's not you don't have a feeling, you generate a feeling.
16:01 And so, I have to Okay.
16:02 What is the feeling I want to generate?
16:04 For example, centeredness is a big one for me.
16:08 And so, I don't necessarily feel it.
16:11 Like before we began this day, I was a little nervous like my buddy Lewis,
16:13 I want to do a good job for him.
16:15 I like Bren sit down in the chair, get yourself centered,
16:19 look at your friend, let's have a good time.
16:20 So, I have to I have to do the selft talk to have the feeling that I desire.
16:24 Mhm.
16:24 So if we're trying to get clarity for people,
16:26 number one, what is the feeling you're after?
16:28 And you have to start generating that more consistently each day.
16:31 That's why I say job one is to summon that.
16:33 And I have a lot of strategies I use for myself to create those feelings.
16:39 Yeah.
16:39 For example, one of my feelings I want to create every day is connection, right?
16:42 So it's like my preference would be to kind of daydream and wander, right?
16:48 Or kind of do my own thing.
16:50 But in order to create connection, I have to connect with someone's eyes, right?
16:53 I have to.
16:53 And the more I look someone in the eyes, yeah,
16:55 you're creating a connection.
16:57 Just being in the room and looking around you and not looking at you,
17:00 you're not going to feel connected.
17:01 And I'm not going to feel we might be close to each other,
17:04 but that's not true connection, right?
17:06 So, it's I start the morning with my wife.
17:09 Okay, you know, maybe I don't feel like looking her in the eyes
17:11 and really connecting for two minutes every morning, but I'm tired.
17:14 I'm a little sluggish.
17:15 I'm waking up, but it's this is an important feeling to have.
17:18 I want her to feel connected to me.
17:20 I want to feel connected to her.
17:21 Yeah.
17:21 And that's one, I guess, strategy that I would use to like put myself
17:26 in generating the feeling that I want to experience.
17:30 Not what's she going to do for me or what's
17:32 someone else going to bring to me to feel this way.
17:35 Like you say, you've got to bring the joy.
17:38 Bring the joy.
17:38 You got to bring the feeling you want to create in your life.
17:41 Another thing I have is I used to be
17:43 so scared of going to these kind of networking events
17:46 and business meetings early on in my kind of mid20s
17:50 when I was just getting to the business world.
17:53 And I just said, "How can I smile every time
17:57 I enter a room where there's people I'm intimidated by?
18:00 Like if I'm going to an event or if I'm
18:02 going to a party or a networking thing or a conference,
18:05 how can I smile and just look around the room and just smile at everyone?"
18:08 I love that.
18:09 And even though I'm nervous, let me just smile.
18:11 Even though I don't know what I'm going to say, why don't I just smile?
18:14 You know, it's like creating this way of like an engaging energy
18:19 to hopefully allow other people feel comfortable to talk to me, right?
18:22 As opposed to being, I don't know, this tall intimidating
18:26 figure, athletic guy or whatever.
18:27 It's like smile, put my arms open.
18:30 You know, when I see you, it's like I put my arms out to bring in a hug.
18:32 It's true.
18:33 And I hold you a little longer.
18:34 I pick you up.
18:35 It's like I'm generating the feeling that I want to create
18:39 and you have to do it based on, you know,
18:40 I can't do that with just some random stranger,
18:42 but it's like doing it in context the best way possible.
18:46 But I think I love this as a framework to start the F being feeling.
18:50 How do I want to feel?
18:51 And you have to bring that energy.
18:55 Yes.
18:54 And bring the feeling.
18:57 Yes.
18:56 Your life doesn't change until you learn
18:58 to generate that which you want to feel.
19:01 That is the moment life changes.
19:02 when you can generate your experience versus just taking what
19:06 hits you because that's where you're in stimulus response forever.
19:10 Instead, it's like, oh,
19:11 regardless of what's happening around me, what can I generate?
19:14 And I always give people that metaphor because it was it's still
19:16 I I know I talked to you before on on a previous podcast,
19:20 the the the changing metaphor of my life
19:22 was the power plant does not have energy.
19:26 No power plant has energy.
19:27 A power plant is taking energy from one lower level of utilization.
19:31 It is transforming it into a higher level of utilization and transmitting it.
19:36 That's what we do in our personal or spiritual lives.
19:39 It's like we're able to tune into the world
19:42 and instead of like getting let the negative things ruin us,
19:45 we're no I can I can take all this energy
19:47 about me and I can transform it into a higher level.
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20:46 Listen, I feel just exhausted, drained, burnt out.
20:49 I don't feel like I have the energy to generate energy.
20:52 You know, it's like, yeah,
20:53 I don't have the energy to create it because it's got so much going on my plate.
20:58 What would you say to someone like that who's not maybe
21:01 at peak performance right now,
21:02 but more at a state of like a lower energetic state?
21:07 Mhm.
21:06 And I'm sure you've heard this all the time of like,
21:08 well, I've got responsibilities.
21:09 I've got my kids.
21:10 I've got two, three jobs.
21:11 It's I'm behind on bills.
21:13 How do I generate energy when I'm exhausted?
21:17 Yeah.
21:17 Um, the only way out is to shift your priorities.
21:23 And at that stage, when you're there,
21:25 the priority might have to shift to taking care for yourself again.
21:29 You might be wiped out because you're taking care of everybody else.
21:32 Yes.
21:32 You might be wiped out because you're running
21:34 the business and not leaning enough on the team.
21:36 You might be in a terrible state financially because you've prioritized
21:41 things that were big risks or you prioritized things that weren't needed
21:46 or you, you know, didn't prioritize getting help.
21:50 You tried to do it your own by yourself.
21:53 So there you have to shift a priority to have a different result.
21:57 And so we've all been there.
21:59 But once we know that's the lever.
22:01 Oh, the lever is the priority or the lever is so the lever is either I
22:05 generate something differently inside or I change
22:08 a priority so I can get a tactical result.
22:11 Yes.
22:11 And that's why I like that metaphor of the power plant.
22:13 Power plant doesn't have energy.
22:15 It's generating.
22:16 It's transforming it.
22:17 We can sometimes do that from within.
22:18 That's what changes our life.
22:19 We do something new from within.
22:22 But sometimes at a tactical level, we got to shift a priority.
22:25 And you have to be bold about that.
22:28 You can't wait on it.
22:29 you can't wait seven more years on it.
22:30 Shifting a priority means like now.
22:33 Yes.
22:34 So step number one, the F is how do I want to feel
22:36 and generating that feeling on a consistent basis or as frequently as possible.
22:41 What is the R?
22:43 R is less sexy.
22:44 R is responsibility.
22:47 Wow.
22:46 And what this means is when we have clarity or aspirational self,
22:50 the F meant well you have a feeling your aspirational self wants to feel.
22:54 Start learning to generate that.
22:55 Now responsibility is your aspirational future
22:57 self handles responsibilities a specific way.
23:03 Your current self with your obligation,
23:05 your responsibilities, you might complain, you might blame,
23:08 you might not, you know, get you might get angry,
23:11 impatient, insecure, you know, beat yourself up.
23:15 The way that you handle current responsibilities and obligations
23:18 is probably not the way your future best self would.
23:21 Yes.
23:22 So clarity is going, okay, future best self, aspirational Brendan,
23:26 how are you going to deal with this argument with your spouse?
23:30 How are you going to deal with the insecurity at the event?
23:32 How are you going to deal with
23:34 So again, intention is acting
23:38 from the aspirational self versus just the preference.
23:41 Now, my preference is I'm not even going
23:43 to open up the bills because guess what?
23:45 I know what's in them.
23:46 So I'm going to stack the bills over in the corner and I'm going to avoid them.
23:49 That's my preference.
23:50 A lot of people's preference in life is avoidance, not assertiveness.
23:55 Yes.
23:54 And so they've avoided and avoided
23:56 avoid they've avoided themselves into deeper holes.
23:59 The priority have to shift into an assertive lean into the future
24:03 and say, "How do I want to handle problems?" You know,
24:08 when my competitor lines up next to me on the block, that's a responsibility.
24:14 How do I want to handle that?
24:17 when I got to pay the bills,
24:18 when I got to turn on the camera, and I don't feel like it.
24:20 I mean, I I would love to hear how you feel about this cuz
24:23 I'm sure a million times you've turned on one of the cameras and you just,
24:26 you know, you're on day five of filming your 17th
24:29 guest and your eyes are bugging out a little bit like,
24:32 but they traveled to see you.
24:36 Mhm.
24:35 You got millions of people watching you.
24:38 You have a responsibility to get on.
24:40 Yeah.
24:40 Even though you might want to turn off.
24:43 So, how do you do it?
24:43 It's funny.
24:44 I was just telling Caroline before you were coming in here.
24:45 I was like, you know, this will be in less than two weeks,
24:51 it'll be 13 years of doing the podcast every single week.
24:56 Cheers, brother.
24:57 Come on, man.
24:58 You're such a 13 years.
25:00 Every single week, three times a week for the last 10 or 11 years.
25:04 Wow.
25:04 It was once a week for the first year, then twice a week,
25:06 then uh three times a week for the last 10 or 11 years.
25:09 And I was just telling her, I was like,
25:12 sometimes in the afternoon if I've got multiple interviews,
25:14 I've got to recalibrate, shift the energy because I'm training for my Olympic
25:21 dream in the morning hard with a trainer.
25:23 And so I'm getting up and I'm pushing my body.
25:26 Then I'm with my twins and my wife, you know,
25:28 then I I got to be on the whole rest of the day.
25:31 I was telling her, I was like, pro athletes, they train really hard,
25:34 but then they're kind of like they're they have a lot of downtime, too.
25:37 You can only train for so many hours and then like you're recovering,
25:41 you're resting, you're playing video games,
25:42 you're just hanging out with your friends,
25:43 whatever it is or your family, but you're not on
25:46 all the time unless you're playing a game or a practice.
25:51 Yeah.
25:50 I'm training for an Olympic sport and then I'm on the rest of the day.
25:56 I've got to shave every day.
25:57 I've got to do my hair.
25:58 I've got to put myself together.
26:00 I've got to be presentable.
26:02 Yeah.
26:02 to then deliver value to the audience and to my guests and and be present.
26:07 And Matt always jokes about me.
26:08 He goes, "It's not hard sitting there
26:10 and asking some of my questions." You know, he always says this as a joke.
26:13 And I'm like, "But when you're giving your full time and attention and present,
26:16 actually, it is so hard.
26:18 Like, and you do it two or three times a day after you've trained,
26:22 you know, in the morning." And I've seen you, I mean,
26:23 I've watched you this whole time
26:24 and and and you know these little things about them.
26:27 So, you've done your homework, you've done your research, and you're bring that.
26:30 So intellectually you're so engaged that's tiring.
26:35 Yeah.
26:33 Yeah.
26:33 Yeah.
26:34 It it can be.
26:35 But I have to constantly stay focused on the vision.
26:39 And this is why every week we talk about guys
26:41 our mission is to reach and serve 100 million lives weekly.
26:45 Why?
26:45 Because this is meaningful work for us.
26:47 And if we're going to do something to make money,
26:50 why don't we make it meaningful?
26:51 Why don't we change lives?
26:52 Why don't we impact people's lives and and better people?
26:55 Why don't we do something where we get
26:57 to learn also and help other people like Yeah.
26:58 Yeah,
26:59 what a gift, you know, at least that's how I see it.
27:01 And I'm like, even if I had all the money in the world,
27:04 I'd still want to do some type of format of this, helping others.
27:09 Yeah.
27:08 What a gift.
27:09 And so, it's um it's a constant reminder.
27:12 And it's it's shifting priorities.
27:14 Like you said, I have had to cut back on like I don't go out at night.
27:19 I don't go to parties or dinners or these things.
27:23 Like I come home, I see my kids now.
27:26 I see my wife.
27:27 I recover and recharge and relax and because I
27:31 know I got to prepare for the next day
27:33 and I got to show up again the next day early morning training hard and have
27:37 the energy to do what I'm doing next day
27:39 which is being on camera most of the time.
27:42 And so it's it's making sure my priorities have
27:45 to shift in order to reach new levels of performance.
27:49 Mhm.
27:51 And whereas I used to say yes to meetings all the time and do lunch
27:54 meetings and dinner meetings and you know
27:57 networking it's like I don't do that anymore.
28:00 Right.
27:59 Once in a blue moon if there's like something special like okay I really
28:02 plan it but it's not yeah let's go hang out tonight or this and that.
28:06 It's like my priorities change to serve the goals that I want to create
28:13 right
28:12 and it's it's not my nature.
28:14 You know, I wish I could just kind of show up
28:16 and not shave and not do my hair and wear sweatpants,
28:20 but uh I have to shift my preferences based on the priorities.
28:23 That's right.
28:25 Yeah.
28:24 Yeah.
28:24 And you've got I want to acknowledge Lewis and everyone
28:29 hear this because when we talk about responsibilities,
28:31 people often think that those are things that people don't want.
28:38 Yeah.
28:37 High performers want responsibilities.
28:39 And the difference is they choose their responsibilities
28:43 and they choose how to show up for them.
28:45 So they prioritize things that shouldn't be responsibilities like hey let
28:49 me delegate this let me not go out to those dinners.
28:52 So part of the responsibility set like when your aspirational self I always tell
28:56 people it's like it's not just how
28:58 does your aspirational self handle difficult responsibilities.
29:03 It's what responsibilities did the great you in the future choose
29:09 and how do they show up for them?
29:11 So you chose kids.
29:13 Yes.
29:13 You chose Uhhuh.
29:15 Yeah.
29:15 It's amazing.
29:16 I chose it.
29:16 Yeah.
29:16 Yeah.
29:17 So how do you show up for them?
29:18 Right.
29:18 That's It's interesting you say this cuz as you're
29:21 saying this, I'm 42 and I just went back
29:24 to my 20 years ago at 22 in my mind and I can remember where I'm at.
29:29 You know, I'm finishing college dreaming
29:32 of playing professional football and also
29:35 dreaming of like how am I going to make money in this world?
29:37 You know, what's my future going to look like?
29:39 And I don't want to be living off my parents or living on my sister's couch,
29:44 which I ended up doing.
29:44 And I don't want to be struggling in my life.
29:46 I want to have this future where I have a beautiful home,
29:49 a beautiful wife, a beautiful family, uh a mission that I love.
29:53 I want to have this dream life and I
29:57 am living the dreams of my 22-year-old self, right?
30:01 I'm living it every single day.
30:03 And I think it's a responsibility to continue to show
30:07 up for that 22 version of me that had that dream.
30:10 I get chills thinking about it because it's like, I love this.
30:13 And we have to remind ourselves that this pressure
30:16 is a privilege at this season of life
30:20 when we've been creating the life of our dreams
30:23 that our younger self couldn't even imagine.
30:25 Or maybe we imagined it, but we had no clue when or how it was going to happen.
30:29 Mhm.
30:29 I had no clue when or how this life would happen today.
30:33 And I'm freaking living it.
30:35 Yeah.
30:34 It's incredible.
30:35 It's so incredible.
30:36 And it's it's something to have a responsibility
30:38 of appreciation for what we've been given.
30:42 And then also to rep prioritize like you said like
30:44 okay maybe if you're feeling overwhelmed or stressed you got
30:46 to delegate things differently and you have to think about
30:49 what are only the things that you should be doing.
30:52 Don't take on everything take on less but do it better.
30:56 You know what I mean?
30:56 So it's we were talking about this off camera too is like
30:59 you know I'm trying to go more all
31:00 in on building my personal brand but that means I got
31:03 to let go these other things I've been doing that's
31:05 not going to help me with my time and energy right?
31:07 So, it's it's constantly shifting priorities based
31:10 on the season of life we're in.
31:12 Yes.
31:12 I think it's so important people hear us talking this way
31:14 about responsibilities because I love I love what you just shared.
31:17 It's like a lot of your responsibilities are a privilege.
31:20 Yeah.
31:21 You got to take the kids to school.
31:23 Yeah.
31:23 You you used to dream of having the kids.
31:27 Exactly.
31:26 You know, I work with this guy uh you know,
31:29 big financial guy and the other maybe this is like two weeks ago.
31:33 He's complaining so much about having to do all this, you know,
31:37 basically financial diligence.
31:39 And I was like, do you remember when it was just a checkbook?
31:43 Yeah.
31:43 Yeah.
31:44 Yeah.
31:45 And you were just trying to round out a few
31:47 zeros to make an extra 10, 20, 30, 50 bucks.
31:49 Like, bro, this responsibility to do this diligence for your investors, what a
31:57 privilege.
31:57 Reset to that, man.
31:58 Yeah.
31:58 Look at the life you have now.
31:59 Yes.
31:59 Because of this responsibility.
32:01 And I would just say, and this is very controversial, uh, but I don't care.
32:05 I believe that high performers and people of greatness and people of excellence,
32:10 they view responsibility as a positive thing.
32:14 And when you are underperforming and when you are selfish
32:17 and when you just have not done as much personal empowerment,
32:22 every frustration, inconvenience, obligation, and responsibility looks negative.
32:29 where other people go, I can't wait to do that well
32:34 and show the kids that it can be done well.
32:36 I can't wait to do that well and show my teammate I can do it well.
32:39 I can't wait to take on the challenges and responsibilities of life as a mature,
32:44 competent, capable adult who's doing job one, managing me.
32:48 I can't wait to see how I perform
32:51 at the Olympics.
32:52 I can't wait to see how I perform when they're faster.
32:56 I can't wait to see how I show up when I'm 30 points down, bro.
32:59 Yeah.
32:59 Yeah.
33:00 Those guys, they eat it up.
33:02 The great people eat that responsibility of greatness up.
33:06 They like it.
33:07 It's interesting.
33:08 Something else is coming up for me.
33:09 There's been two moments in the last six years.
33:14 Can you believe it's been six years since co Oh, yeah.
33:18 In two months, by the time of us recording this,
33:22 it'll be six years since CO hit.
33:24 But when COVID hit, because I got into I
33:28 guess the the working world around 2008 2009,
33:32 right like in the middle of the the housing
33:34 crash and so I was sleeping on my sister's couch
33:37 2007 to 2009 and they weren't hiring at that time
33:41 and the economy was crashing and it was like,
33:43 you know, they weren't hiring some, you know,
33:45 college football bum who played arena football
33:47 and broke his arm and I had no skills.
33:49 I had no education really.
33:51 They weren't hiring people with master's degrees,
33:53 let alone someone who barely graduated college.
33:56 And I remember feeling so helpless and so like powerless because I was like,
34:03 I don't have any control or it doesn't feel like I
34:05 have any control on how to get off my sister's couch,
34:08 how to make a living, and how to get out of debt.
34:10 It just felt powerless.
34:12 I was like, what do I do?
34:13 And I remember I was like, I never want to have this feeling again.
34:16 So as I started earn finally learning how to earn
34:18 money through having mentors and working hard and all
34:21 the stuff I've talked about I remember saying I
34:24 never when there's another crisis I want to be ready
34:29 like I want to be ready whether that's having the right investment
34:31 strategy the right savings the right whatever so if some when something happens
34:36 I'm ready yes when co hit
34:38 like you said I wasn't excited but I was like
34:41 I have been staying ready so I don't need to get ready for this moment
34:45 And this is a nightmare for the world obviously and it's not fun
34:51 and there's a lot of sadness happening and loss of life.
34:54 But I am ready for this moment like I'm ready
34:56 to take on the challenge of what's being thrown my way.
35:00 Love it.
35:00 And I felt like we myself and my team we thrived
35:04 in that season and other
35:06 my personal relationship struggled and another relationship,
35:08 you know, other stuff struggled but I was ready for the business moment
35:12 like I'd prepared for it.
35:13 And the second moment that's coming out for me
35:15 was in the last three months, you know,
35:19 I felt like last year I got married,
35:24 Martha got pregnant and then we had twins within,
35:27 you know, 10 months essentially
35:30 and
35:30 and you re-engaged the Olympic
35:31 and I re-engaged and all these different things, right?
35:34 So, I was taking on a lot.
35:36 And I remember thinking to myself, for the last five years,
35:40 I'd been doing my own healing journey in intimacy
35:43 and relationships to get me ready to get married.
35:47 Like, I felt like I've been doing the inner healing journey.
35:50 To create a new preference in relationships.
35:54 That's right.
35:56 New priorities to have different results
35:59 and a different feeling that generated from the relationship.
36:03 And I remember just thinking like I need to be emotionally ready for marriage,
36:08 for kids because I have no clue what's coming.
36:12 And it's been a beautiful journey.
36:16 And at the same time when Martha, you know, gave birth to our twins,
36:20 she had about 6 to 8 weeks of extreme complications.
36:24 She went to the ER twice after coming back from the hospital.
36:27 She was in the hospital three times within a month.
36:30 And there were some scary moments,
36:32 but I remember just thinking, "Thank God I invested four,
36:37 five, six years ago in emotional healing to be ready for this.
36:41 It was extremely uncomfortable.
36:43 It was challenging emotionally, spiritually, physically,
36:46 all these things." And it was scary.
36:48 But I was like, had I not trained myself to prepare
36:51 for these moments of my future self stepping into marriage and kids,
36:55 while having to run a business,
36:56 while having to do this, while training, while and keep everything going, right?
37:02 There's no way I'd have been able to handle it well.
37:04 I would have been reactive.
37:05 I would have been, I can't handle this.
37:07 I would have been broken down emotionally and spiritually
37:11 and probably crumbled had I not invested years ago.
37:15 Love that.
37:15 in staying ready.
37:17 So I didn't need to get ready.
37:19 And I think when we are able to have a vision of our future self that we want,
37:24 it starts now in doing the actions and creating
37:27 the habits and creating new preferences like you talked about,
37:30 which is owning responsibility.
37:32 We we don't like being responsible sometimes, but owning it
37:36 allows us to be ready for when hits the fan.
37:41 You know, it's like when crap happens, you may not handle it perfectly,
37:45 but you handle a lot better than if you didn't prepare for this, you know.
37:50 So, responsibility is a huge one.
37:51 I've seen that arc for you, too.
37:53 If I can just say it, like as a friend, I can share like as a friend.
38:00 Watching you grow into the man for Marta
38:06 has been amazing.
38:07 And and there's no way if if if you and Mart had intersected five years earlier,
38:12 it would have been a mess.
38:14 And she always tells me that.
38:15 She goes, "God, why didn't we meet each other 10 years ago?
38:17 Why didn't?" And I go, "Cuz I wouldn't have been ready." No.
38:20 And I would have blown it and I would have ruined this.
38:22 And
38:24 yeah,
38:23 like you didn't want to be with me back.
38:25 You had to do the work.
38:27 I needed.
38:27 And so I Everyone listening, I have a phrase.
38:30 It's hard to hear, but I want you to think about the last three months, okay?
38:36 And just tell you, again, I just want to refer to everyone.
38:38 I'm a high performance coach.
38:40 This is what I do for a career.
38:41 In high performance coaching, we have this phrase, you're paid to push.
38:44 So sometimes I say things, it sounds flippant.
38:46 When someone clips it, they're like, "Oh, he's a jerk." And I'm like, I'm
38:49 I just say things because I think that this is true.
38:52 If you look at your last three months, I want to tell everybody listening,
38:58 you have been training to be able to handle your future dreams responsibilities.
39:07 Mhm.
39:07 Or not.
39:08 You have and and how you've been training is either going
39:10 to prepare you for it or you're not going to be prepared.
39:12 You're in training.
39:12 You're doing it now.
39:13 You are training.
39:14 How you are training to overeat?
39:15 Are you training to be mean?
39:17 Are you training to disengage?
39:18 Are you train?
39:20 Yeah, exactly.
39:20 You're training.
39:21 And so I also think that's a really compelling thought for many people.
39:25 It took me a long time to realize you don't have future dreams.
39:30 You have future dreams and responsibilities that come with them.
39:35 Yes.
39:35 And so for example, I knew uh in my business, you know,
39:38 we have growth day and we serve people all around the world.
39:40 And I said, you know, one day I'm going to have the software platform.
39:43 We're going to serve people around the world.
39:44 Well, I had that that dream and I thought
39:48 I actually how how does taxes work around the world?
39:52 If I'm selling into Europe or Africa or Asia, how does that work?
39:58 So, I literally went and watched videos, hired a coach, an expert,
40:03 uh went and studied a bunch of books,
40:05 and had to learn like, wow, how does that scale?
40:07 Cuz I wanted to be earning tens and tens of millions.
40:10 And you know this was this is long before you
40:13 know one of our companies you know became a unicorn company.
40:16 It was like how does all that work?
40:19 I was looking at that 10 years ago.
40:22 It wouldn't it would be years until I sold
40:24 you know millions and millions in all these other countries.
40:26 So I had to figure that out and because the dream
40:29 is reach millions people but there's also taxes team blah blah.
40:32 So responsibilities the question I I'll go back to the re of the of of the point
40:37 is you have to have clarity and aspirations for future self and part of that
40:43 yes
40:43 is the feelings you want start generating them now part of that is
40:46 responsibilities how would your future self
40:49 handle your current responsibilities that's fr the
40:53 before you go on there I have a couple other examples I add there
40:55 throw in please I love this by the way
40:57 one one is early on my mentor Chris Hawker I
41:02 was broke woke on my sister's couch and I was like,
41:03 God, I wonder really want to make some money.
41:05 But I'd been working for maybe 6 to 8 months.
41:07 I wasn't really getting a breakthrough financially.
41:10 I was just kind of struggling, barely getting by.
41:12 And I was like, gosh, I just want to figure out how to make more money.
41:16 Because when you are poor and broke and in debt and living off credit cards,
41:20 it feels like you're suffocating.
41:22 It feels like you can't breathe.
41:23 I don't know if anyone can relate to that, but for me,
41:25 that's how it felt for me.
41:25 this life and if you don't know the solution
41:28 on how to get financially out of that suffering,
41:32 you're just like grasping for anything.
41:34 Mh.
41:34 And I was like, gosh, I really want to make some money.
41:36 I just don't know how to do it.
41:37 And he said something that has stuck with me for the last 18 years.
41:39 He was like, money comes to you when you're ready for it.
41:42 And I was like, I feel pretty ready.
41:44 You know, I'm ready.
41:46 I feel want this.
41:49 But then, you know, maybe a year and a half, two years later,
41:53 the reason it stuck with me is because I started to earn more money
41:57 and it started to come pretty quick after about a year and a half later.
42:00 Like, it started to accelerate once I kind of figured it out.
42:04 And I remember reflecting back on that conversation.
42:06 I go, gosh, just like if I met Martha 10 years prior,
42:09 I wouldn't have been ready for it.
42:11 I wasn't internally ready for it.
42:14 If I started making all this money that I was making two years later,
42:17 I probably would have blown it.
42:18 I would have spent it on stupid stuff.
42:20 I'd still feel scarce around it.
42:21 I'd feel anxious around it.
42:23 I wouldn't have the right energy and responsibility to it
42:27 as when the time when I started to make it
42:29 based on the things I shifted inside of me around it.
42:35 And so that was one of them.
42:36 And and one of the things I'm doing now and something my therapist a few
42:40 years ago once I felt like I was got really resolved with certain things
42:47 I needed to heal and I felt like I integrated a lot of the lessons
42:50 and I was taking the actions and I felt like man I really feel peaceful.
42:54 Doesn't mean I'm perfect or I still
42:56 have challenges but I felt like internally peaceful.
43:00 She'd be like what do you want to talk about this week?
43:02 And I was like gosh I just feel so good.
43:03 I feel good all the time, you know.
43:05 But I was like, what are the problems that your 60,
43:08 70 year old ma successful male clients have?
43:13 She's like, a lot of the problems are they
43:15 like make mistakes in their marriages or they worked so
43:18 hard for 40 years that they weren't there for their kids
43:21 and they don't have a relationship with their kids
43:23 and they're kind of just like, you know,
43:26 they've messed up their life, their family, their marriage, their kids.
43:29 I was like, "Oh, I don't want that." You know,
43:32 and I've heard so many great wise older men say that success in their 50s,
43:38 60s, and 70s is their adult children wanting to hang out with them.
43:43 Love that.
43:43 Not because they have money, but want to spend time with them just because.
43:48 I was like, "Yeah, that would be a beautiful future self,
43:51 right?" And this was before I had kids.
43:54 I was like, "Who do I need to be?" Yes.
43:56 to emotionally handle and navigate the emotions and ups and downs of children
44:02 in the world and what they need and how can I best prepare myself.
44:06 So, I'm training now for my daughters to be teenagers.
44:11 Uhhuh.
44:11 You know, it's like they're a couple months old,
44:13 but I'm training like what am I need to learn
44:16 so that when they're 2 years old, 6 years old,
44:18 10 years old, what are the things that happen around those ages?
44:22 How do I navigate those things now emotionally
44:25 so that I'm ready for it?
44:27 And I think that's what high performers also do is
44:30 they're seeing the future that they want to, you know,
44:32 I want to go to the Olympics.
44:33 I want to create this in my business.
44:35 I want to have a beautiful family.
44:36 And they're training now for something that won't
44:39 pay off for years or if not decades.
44:43 They're doing the emotional training now, the skill training, the development,
44:47 whatever it is for something that won't pay dividends for a long time.
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46:48 I can see that's one reason we're huge friends.
46:51 Yeah.
46:51 And uh you know for those listening,
46:53 many of you guys know Lewis and I run a mastermind called Ultra.
46:57 Yes.
46:57 And I can tell you cuz I've run that several
46:59 years now that the differentiator the people in that room.
47:03 You can tell that they want the responsibilities
47:06 of life that demand more of them.
47:09 Yes.
47:09 And I I would urge everyone to really think about it.
47:12 The group of people you hang out with or your team or your family or the friends
47:17 you've chosen when they talk about responsibilities,
47:21 is it a negative conversation or is it I'm leveling up conversation?
47:27 Yes.
47:26 If it's a leveling up conversation, you're probably in the right group.
47:30 It's a group that can see past problems and see a potential future and believe
47:35 in something for you beyond what maybe you
47:37 even believe or beyond where you're at circumstantially now.
47:41 If you're around people who
47:42 only complain about responsibilities and obligations,
47:44 you probably need a new peer group, need a coach, need a mastermind,
47:49 need a better company culture, need to move on next job.
47:51 I don't know what it is for you but you have to be really attuned to that
47:56 because there is that level in which there's a speaking
48:00 of co there there's a viral nature of human energy about responsibilities
48:08 and I've been there I grew up in a very
48:10 difficult place you know economically depressed mining town you know parents
48:16 my dad did three tours in Vietnam came back to United
48:18 States didn't like it soldiers anymore are my mom's from Vietnam and
48:24 for Vietnam.
48:25 I didn't know that.
48:26 It's cool.
48:27 Yeah.
48:27 Yeah.
48:27 French Vietnamese.
48:27 You can't see the Vietnamese on can.
48:30 But um Yeah.
48:32 So, dad grew up in Montana.
48:35 Uh wanted to see the world.
48:37 Joined the US Marine Corps.
48:40 Uhhuh.
48:40 Ended up going to Vietnam in three tours.
48:42 Got all shot up.
48:45 Wow.
48:44 Came back to the US.
48:46 um end up recruiting in the South right during
48:49 and right after Vietnam when no one wanted that.
48:52 So he'd be spit on, things thrown at him, just awful.
48:55 Recruiting people to join the military.
48:57 Yeah.
48:59 Wow.
48:58 My mom uh she had grown up in Vietnam under the first war,
49:02 what used to be called the Indina War,
49:04 which was a French Vietnamese conflict, which is before the American conflict.
49:07 So the French Vietnamese conflict,
49:09 her father was a French soldier with her mother who's Vietnamese.
49:14 He got killed when she was oh gosh 8 n 10.
49:21 Yeah.
49:21 So she got shipped to France for the child of war program.
49:25 She speaks French.
49:26 She
49:27 speaks French.
49:27 Yeah.
49:27 Grew up in you know convents basically.
49:30 So she grows up has a terrible time there.
49:32 Abused treated really terribly.
49:34 You know separated from her family in France.
49:36 Separated from her mother who was still in Saigon.
49:39 And so mom has terrible she turns 18 19.
49:42 She like I'm out of here.
49:43 goes back to Vietnam, meets another American, marries him, comes to the US.
49:49 He's terri terrible to her.
49:51 They get divorce.
49:52 She ends up meeting my dad.
49:55 Wow.
49:55 So my dad had to go to Vietnam, come back to the US.
49:57 My mom, Vietnam, France, Vietnam, US, and they meet in Washington DC.
50:03 Wow.
50:02 And uh love at first sight.
50:04 Just amazing.
50:05 Bam.
50:06 Love at first sight.
50:07 And uh just had nothing.
50:09 neither man had anything, you know,
50:11 left the east coast to Montana to raise us kids
50:15 because dad wanted to raise us kids in Montana and, you know,
50:19 grew up in but Montana and tiny little town called Conrad and then Great Falls.
50:24 Tiny little towns.
50:25 Um, and but had been economically depressed for a long time.
50:28 It used to be a mining town and uh it's tough place to grow up, brutal.
50:33 mom and dad working as many jobs as they could get, trying to raise for us.
50:39 And there was a lot of alcoholism in that town.
50:43 It was a very physical town.
50:45 Lots of bullying, lots of fighting, just an awful town.
50:49 And I can look back at that kid
50:51 as me being raised through those towns and thinking
50:56 about the times we had and I can
50:58 My dad kept getting better jobs as we moved throughout.
51:02 nothing ever wild or crazy.
51:04 End up managing the DMVs of the state.
51:07 Okay.
51:07 Well, and uh you know, from one little one to many of them and
51:12 hopefully the lines were faster there.
51:15 Yeah.
51:15 I I wouldn't bring that up to my dad,
51:17 but you know, he um he got better and better jobs.
51:21 And I noticed that well,
51:23 they're not the jobs we all talk about in the media world,
51:25 multi-million dollar jobs.
51:26 What what I did notice was the people
51:28 were getting around when they talked about problems,
51:32 you know, they had some ownership to them.
51:35 It wasn't the government's fault.
51:37 It wasn't, you know, this town's fault.
51:40 It wasn't the economy's fault.
51:42 They kind of like, yeah, this is hard,
51:43 but here's all the things I'm doing about it.
51:45 And I started noticing a change in the culture.
51:47 Then I went to college.
51:48 I started noticing a change in the kids who succeeded and the kids who didn't.
51:52 Then I went to, you know,
51:53 San Francisco and I worked for Accenture, this global consulting company.
51:55 Then you know now I've been a high performance coach for 20
51:58 plus years and it work with the world's best teams athletes
52:02 and everything and one thing is the way they talk about responsibility
52:06 one complains blames hates it another goes I wonder I have to be
52:10 to handle that next level of complexity and difficulty like who like
52:15 what skill set what competency would I need to deal with and they
52:18 want the challenge it is the tell of the high performer they
52:22 want the challenge it's the tell of positive psych ology called flow, right?
52:27 Flow state is you are you're like going
52:29 just beyond your current skill set or competency
52:32 in a challenge you're engaged in and it's
52:34 timely and you need to be quote unquote engaged.
52:36 And I think it's just interesting like are you a person who is fully
52:40 engaged taking on hard things that are
52:42 responsibilities maybe you didn't want or you did.
52:45 But we all know somebody who's a deadbeat dad.
52:48 We all know somebody who just refuses to own up to the lie.
52:54 We all know somebody who refuses to give
52:56 back even though they were given to so generously.
52:59 We we know people who don't take life's responsibilities and you just
53:05 you can't change your life until you get that self-reliant responsibility ethic.
53:10 And I don't know it's hard to say that
53:12 you can't achieve something great being a victim either.
53:15 Yeah.
53:15 So that's like taking responsibility versus you know reacting
53:18 and being a victim to the circumstance that you have.
53:21 And so we're talking about becoming free
53:23 with your acronym and that's creating the feeling.
53:25 How do I want to feel?
53:27 Taking responsibility as well for where you're at and where you want to be.
53:30 What would the E be and free?
53:32 The next E which is related again
53:34 to your clarity and your aspirational self is expression.
53:38 The future you has a way that he or she expresses yourself.
53:45 And a way another another way to say this people is like
53:48 the future you deals with people in a specific way.
53:52 You treat people in a specific way.
53:55 You're generous with people in a specific way.
53:57 You're patient with people in a specific way.
53:58 If you think about the absolute best self,
54:01 it's not just that you express yourself in the way you look in terms of status,
54:05 you know, money, power, fame, or even clothing and stuff.
54:09 It's that you're aware I express myself confidently.
54:14 Uh, it's like you talked about earlier, I walk in a room and I smile.
54:18 Yes.
54:17 It's like you talked about early, I I'm I'm there and present for my kids.
54:22 It's like they're really conscientious about how they treat other people.
54:26 And you become more aware of your expression.
54:28 For example, my natural preference isn't that charismatic
54:33 when I teach because I kind of like
54:35 to go way deep in the and talk about
54:37 the research and the key points and the curriculum.
54:39 I'm the guy who gets lost in the content
54:42 and I have to pull myself out and go, "Oh, Brendan, project, dude.
54:46 Entertain a little bit." Yeah.
54:47 You know, move your hands a little, you know,
54:48 I I have to now it's natural for me because I've been doing it for 20 years.
54:52 But the very beginning,
54:54 everyone I grew up around was like
54:56 this all the time or they were like, you know, going to hit you.
54:58 It was like there was not a lot of free flowing,
55:00 especially masculine expression where I was from.
55:03 And so I had to learn that.
55:04 I thought my future self, I see him differently.
55:08 I would imagine like for example at the time being
55:13 on stage I would grip the side of the podium.
55:17 I would have three or four or five pages of notes and I would grip it.
55:20 I would be terrified.
55:22 But when I thought about a future speaking,
55:25 I would see this kid like walking across stage laughing with people,
55:29 calling up people, like dancing and jumping to music,
55:32 having a good time up there.
55:34 And like I could just see him so joy, so free in expression.
55:39 And that seemed like light years away
55:41 from where I was where I'm gripping the podium, flipping the paper, sweating.
55:46 I mean, I was like in an awful state.
55:49 But the idea that I could become that when
55:52 you realize expression is not about your natural ability,
55:57 but expression like all communication is actual competency.
56:01 I was like, I can get better.
56:02 like you've been coaching me how to be better interviewing.
56:05 I'm asking you all these detailed questions.
56:06 I'm like, "Lewis, this is so amazing how you just do this.
56:09 I'm I'm awkward and weird.
56:10 I don't I don't know how to do this." And it's just fun to see you you do it.
56:14 But I know you developed that over 13 years of the show.
56:17 Yeah.
56:17 And I didn't know how to do it originally.
56:18 I had to learn over years.
56:20 You know, it's like just like you
56:21 learned public speaking and I learned interviewing.
56:23 It's like I didn't know what I was doing.
56:25 You know, you just figure it out and you build that competency,
56:27 which again in high performance habits,
56:29 you talk about competency creates more confidence.
56:32 The more confident you become, the more confident you are on stage now.
56:35 Now you can be on stage
56:36 and deliver what that kid in the podium dreamed of doing,
56:40 dancing and singing and jumping around and getting
56:42 knocked over by me in the air.
56:45 That's right.
56:45 When I introduce you, boom.
56:47 I don't know if you guys know that story,
56:48 but Lewis nearly knocked me off my own stage.
56:50 He hit me with like this like jump shot.
56:53 Yeah.
56:54 Yeah.
56:55 And I can't I don't know if they can tell on camera now,
56:57 but he's like significantly taller, bigger than me.
56:59 You really knocked me off.
57:00 But yeah, you you you have an expression.
57:03 Now, I want to really qualify this for people
57:04 cuz they're watching this and like, "Yeah, yeah,
57:06 I don't want to do the stage up and I'm I'm more quiet." I'm like,
57:09 I want you to know expression.
57:11 When I say you have an aspirational vision of expression,
57:13 it doesn't need to mean like you're a clown like me.
57:16 What it means, what it might mean is
57:19 you find the fullest expression of your authentic self.
57:25 You find comfort in being who you naturally are
57:29 around people of the best of who you are.
57:31 Yes.
57:31 you you you become intentional in relating
57:35 with other humans where you're generous, caring, giving,
57:39 uh you know, affirming of them and and you have to teach
57:43 that because most people your natural thing is you're judgmental of them.
57:46 Your natural thing is you're judgmental of self like I'm insecure of self.
57:49 I'm judgmental of other people.
57:50 So, I'm gripping life by the podium.
57:53 Your natural incredible, great, aspirational self is not that.
57:59 So you identify like oh the fullest expression.
58:02 Uh I I remember a family member one time came to the holidays and he was
58:08 telling us uh you know older older member
58:11 of the family said I'm redoing my closet.
58:15 I redoing okay.
58:17 He's like yeah cuz the way I see myself now is more like James Bond.
58:21 I'm going to express myself like that at this stage of my life.
58:23 I was like it's cool.
58:24 All right bro you know it was like all right.
58:27 He was he saw and he was going to build and live into that.
58:30 So I just want to encourage people.
58:31 Your future self can start right now.
58:33 How would your future self express yourself?
58:37 Yes.
58:36 Like my future self asks more questions.
58:38 My future self gets centered.
58:39 My future self is so excited to see people.
58:42 Uh you know I smile at people.
58:43 All these things we've talked about here I think is so important.
58:46 Yeah.
58:46 It's great.
58:46 So that's the expression.
58:47 What would the final E be?
58:49 Or was there an E before that?
58:51 Yeah the final E.
58:52 So it's free.
58:52 F R E E.
58:54 So it's your future self.
58:56 You have a vision and a clarity of the feeling you want.
58:59 Start generating it.
58:59 The responsibilities and how you handle them, handle them that way now.
59:02 The expression of how you express yourself and treat other people.
59:05 Do that now.
59:06 And the last key is is expansion.
59:10 Mhm.
59:10 You've expanded your wealth.
59:12 You've expanded your network.
59:14 You've expanded your skill set.
59:17 You've expanded your impact.
59:19 Every single person has that expansive desire even
59:22 if it's been covered up because the universe is
59:25 expanding and we are multi-dimensionally expanding as human
59:29 beings at all times at all stages of maturity.
59:32 And so how have you expanded in the future?
59:35 How are you a bigger person?
59:37 How are you having more impact?
59:38 How are you earning more?
59:39 Where is the growth of where you're going to go?
59:43 So you have to see and imagine and think about expansion.
59:46 And I want to talk about Lewis real fast everybody on this because
59:48 this is a real example in real time we were talking about today.
59:52 He like there's a stage in where Lewis
59:53 sees himself expressing himself a as a handball player.
59:58 Mhm.
59:58 Right.
59:59 But I don't know if everyone knows
1:00:00 but Lewis just bought a handball team an organization.
1:00:04 He expanded from I'm a individual player owning to I own a team.
1:00:09 Dude, tell us about that cuz that's like people
1:00:10 don't usually think that way but it's really aspirational.
1:00:13 This is the interesting thing you know.
1:00:14 I'm gl I'm glad you said that because I was
1:00:16 thinking about this when you were going over the expression.
1:00:18 My natural expression in high school and college as I started playing,
1:00:23 you know, sports at a higher level um was I was the receiver.
1:00:28 I was never the quarterback.
1:00:30 I was a role player.
1:00:31 I was never the star player.
1:00:33 I never wanted to be like this vocal leader.
1:00:35 It wasn't my natural preference or like my comfort zone.
1:00:40 But I could train really hard.
1:00:42 you tell me what to do and I could master that one role on the team.
1:00:45 You know, 11 players on football or five guys on a basketball team.
1:00:49 I was like, just give me the ball.
1:00:51 Let me score and do my job.
1:00:53 But I don't want to be communicating.
1:00:54 I don't want to be like leading.
1:00:56 I was like, just let me do my thing.
1:00:59 It was very uncomfortable to get outside of that comfort zone.
1:01:02 And my normal preference was to do the best I can do as a role player,
1:01:07 but not be a leader communicating.
1:01:08 I have had to train myself over the last 20
1:01:11 years to get out of this preference of just let me
1:01:16 be in my role and do well as a part of the team to let me lead the team as well.
1:01:20 And this doesn't mean I have to take over and control the team,
1:01:23 but how can I be a leader?
1:01:25 And still today, it's like not a com it's
1:01:27 not a natural state of mind to lead the team.
1:01:32 But I know my future self needs me to continue to do that and show
1:01:36 up that way to practice it if I want to create this desired result.
1:01:40 I have to develop the competence and the confidence
1:01:43 of leadership in a different way than only playing well
1:01:48 but also playing well, managing a team well,
1:01:51 connecting with every player individually, connecting with the team as a group.
1:01:55 There's different skills you need to develop
1:01:57 as a leader that's different than just playing by itself.
1:02:03 Yes.
1:02:02 And so how do I play well and lead well and you know
1:02:06 navigate the finances of the team and navigate it's like so much more.
1:02:10 But I'm like I feel this will help me be prep more prepared for the Olympics
1:02:16 by having the skill sets by overcoming
1:02:18 the challenges over the next couple years.
1:02:20 like this is only going to support my future self,
1:02:23 accomplish the dreams, and be ready.
1:02:28 Mhm.
1:02:26 You know, so I'm I'm staying ready so I don't need to get ready.
1:02:30 It's like I'm preparing and being ready now.
1:02:33 So when the time happens, man, I've I've just spent now it's easy,
1:02:37 you know, in two and a half years now.
1:02:39 Now it's natural because I've put in the last
1:02:41 four years of reps to prepare for this.
1:02:44 Just like it's natural for you to be on stage.
1:02:46 Sure, maybe there's a little nerves right before like
1:02:48 you want to make sure it's a good job, but spent 20 years behind the podium now
1:02:53 getting reps to be able to dance and sing
1:02:56 and do breakouts and coach and come back
1:02:58 and remember what you're saying and have joke,
1:03:00 all these different things and make it
1:03:02 a beautiful experience over five days, right?
1:03:04 It's easy now because you put in 20 years.
1:03:06 So for me that's been it's still not a natural state of being,
1:03:11 but it's something I show up to every
1:03:14 single time I have the opportunity to lead.
1:03:17 Even though it's not something I would normally do,
1:03:20 but it's what my future self demands of me.
1:03:23 I love this.
1:03:23 You know, it's like the future goal demands
1:03:26 I get out of my comfort zone every time.
1:03:28 Yeah.
1:03:29 Are you hearing the call of your future?
1:03:33 Yes.
1:03:32 And heeding it by showing up into that expansion.
1:03:35 Yes.
1:03:35 You're like, you're showing up into team expansion,
1:03:38 you know, where you show up into expansion of this media empire.
1:03:41 You show up in expansion of the team here and the handball team there.
1:03:45 Your family's expanding.
1:03:46 Same thing with the family stuff, too.
1:03:47 I was very comfortable for 15 years.
1:03:49 I lived in a two-bedroom apartment.
1:03:51 And I would just kind of bounce around from a parchment apartment,
1:03:54 maybe spend a little bit more on a nicer apartment,
1:03:56 but it was like my preference is minimal, two-bedroom apartment, nice.
1:04:02 Okay, maybe I have a door man now.
1:04:03 But it's like I don't need bigger, right?
1:04:06 I was like, I liked my comfort zone.
1:04:08 I knew where everything was.
1:04:10 I could manage it all.
1:04:10 There was not no one's coming over here.
1:04:12 It's like I got my space.
1:04:14 But my future self, you know, 10 years in the future was like, gosh,
1:04:18 but I have a dream of having children and walking around a house with laughter
1:04:23 in the halls and hearing laughter and play in different rooms and having family.
1:04:28 I was like, I really want family to be and visit me more.
1:04:31 I need more space.
1:04:32 They can't visit, right?
1:04:34 I want her family, her extended family to be able to come
1:04:36 as well and have different like
1:04:38 families coming together and activities and holidays.
1:04:40 And I was like, and I want to have a sanctuary where
1:04:43 I could also have my podcast set up if I need it.
1:04:45 If there's another co, I could do it at home.
1:04:48 I have a backyard where I can have friends over and play pickle ball
1:04:51 and I have a gym and I can do everything I need to do.
1:04:55 And that was expensive to think of that of like investing in a home.
1:05:00 And I remember I was going back and forth.
1:05:02 I live in this beautiful home.
1:05:03 Me and Martha have a beautiful home for the last three years.
1:05:05 It's my first home that I got at 40.
1:05:08 And I'll be 43 here in a couple months.
1:05:12 And as I was going through buying the pro the buying process,
1:05:16 I remember feeling like this resistance in my chest.
1:05:19 I go, man, that's a lot of money.
1:05:20 It's like, man, I'm going to have like zero dollars in the bank
1:05:23 after I put all this down and then the expense every month.
1:05:26 It's just a new zone that I'm not comfortable with.
1:05:32 Mhm.
1:05:31 And I remember I was talking to a coach that I had at the time cuz I really
1:05:36 believe in investing in coaches and masterminds and communities
1:05:41 that support you in seeing a greater version of you.
1:05:44 Right?
1:05:45 This is why we have our mastermind with Ultra.
1:05:48 We have hundreds of members in there who
1:05:50 are investing and getting closer to their future selves.
1:05:55 And I have that personally as well, right?
1:05:57 It's like I'm investing in support and coaches and mentorships.
1:06:02 And I had this call with her and I was like,
1:06:05 Claire, it's like help me get through this.
1:06:08 Like, is this worth spending all my money that I
1:06:11 have right now in this down payment for a home?
1:06:14 And she was like, what would your future self, you're turning 40 soon,
1:06:18 what would you at 50 say to you right now?
1:06:21 And I literally went into the future and timeraveled
1:06:24 and I was just like I had future hindsight.
1:06:28 I was thinking in the future as I was looking back on my life and I was like
1:06:33 my 50-year-old self would say this was the best investment you ever made.
1:06:37 This is the
1:06:38 sure it's going to be uncomfortable for 6 months or maybe a year because
1:06:41 your bank account's going to be zero and you're going to feel this pain.
1:06:44 But you're going to look back and say that was like the easiest investment.
1:06:47 That was the greatest investment.
1:06:48 You had a decade or plus of joy,
1:06:51 love, laughter, play, family, connection, games.
1:06:56 It provided this sanctuary for all your dreams to come true, right?
1:07:01 And so I had this conversation with my current self from my future self
1:07:06 and I was like, that was the decision.
1:07:09 Now, it doesn't mean it's comfortable.
1:07:10 It doesn't mean there's not some, you know, risk there.
1:07:13 There's a new way of being when I'm used
1:07:15 to living in a two-bedroom apartment for 15 years.
1:07:19 But man, it's been the greatest decision over the last three years.
1:07:22 It's been like every day I wake up like, "God, I'm so grateful for this space.
1:07:25 This is a dream every day." And I think
1:07:28 that um what's the fifth thing you were talking about?
1:07:31 Expansion.
1:07:32 Expansion.
1:07:32 You expanded.
1:07:33 It's like it doesn't mean it's going to be comfortable.
1:07:36 It's not comfortable to lead when you've never had the training on how to lead.
1:07:39 It's not comfortable to invest when you're not sure if it's going to pay off.
1:07:45 But that commitment, that action is going to create expansion.
1:07:50 And that's the only way you can really
1:07:52 create the abundance you're looking for in your life.
1:07:54 Yes.
1:07:54 Yeah.
1:07:55 And you did it.
1:07:56 And and you allowed that communication to happen
1:07:59 with the future from an optimistic Yes.
1:08:01 You know, believing place
1:08:04 versus shutting yourself down with negative selft talk or catastrophizing.
1:08:07 You you allowed that dialogue to happen with the future and you played with it.
1:08:12 Yes.
1:08:12 You asked a coach.
1:08:14 You got around people.
1:08:14 I'm sure you ask your friends like, "Okay, how does this work?" And you like,
1:08:18 you have to allow the dialogue of the future to happen.
1:08:21 That is how you connect with destiny is through dialogue with your future self.
1:08:26 Yeah.
1:08:26 We always think destiny is so much about hardcore action.
1:08:28 Like it's a dialogue first.
1:08:30 It's a it's a dialogue you're having in your mind.
1:08:32 It's decisions you're making along the way.
1:08:34 It's how you're showing up each day.
1:08:35 And all of a sudden now it's it
1:08:36 manifests a reality and you have this beautiful house.
1:08:38 I've been there.
1:08:39 I've seen the pickle ball court.
1:08:40 It's like you have this stunning stunning beautiful compound.
1:08:43 Yeah.
1:08:44 You know, it's unbelievable.
1:08:45 It was scary at first cuz I was like this is something I've never done.
1:08:49 I'm not comfortable with.
1:08:50 I don't know how to do it.
1:08:51 I don't know what I'm going to do to generate more money quickly.
1:08:53 So I'm not at zero in my bank account.
1:08:55 Like all the unknowns.
1:08:58 But as you're talking about having
1:08:59 a dialogue with your future, something that Dr.
1:09:01 Jodispenza talks about he says remember the future.
1:09:05 I've heard him say this when I've interviewed him a bunch.
1:09:07 He's like we need to learn how to remember
1:09:08 the future not emphasizing the pain of the past.
1:09:12 When we hold on to the fear of well I did
1:09:14 this thing in the past and it hurt when this happened.
1:09:17 I took a risk on love and I got screwed over.
1:09:20 I did this thing in this business and I lost my money.
1:09:23 If we stay in the past and create from the past pains,
1:09:28 we're not going to create some beautiful future.
1:09:30 We need to remember a future of the result we're looking to create.
1:09:34 And going back to the feeling you want to have in the future,
1:09:38 the responsibilities it takes, the expression and the expansion.
1:09:41 It's like if you have to if you want to remember
1:09:43 the future of like you have this dream home, this dream career,
1:09:46 this dream business, this dream relationship, this dream health,
1:09:50 you have to have the feeling now, which is what I'm going to hear you say.
1:09:53 You have to take on the responsibility of doing the actions of the future now.
1:09:57 Yes.
1:09:58 And you may not have to pay off for years.
1:10:00 You may not see this result overnight
1:10:03 and expressing yourself from the future as well.
1:10:06 And then stepping into that expansion.
1:10:08 And I think when people can start to use this framework of free
1:10:12 that you've shared and I know you have more in the book,
1:10:14 high performance habits.
1:10:17 When you make that investment in this, your life is completely going to change,
1:10:22 right?
1:10:22 Cuz you're showing up now.
1:10:24 Yes.
1:10:24 for that future dream and all the responsibilities and the joys with it.
1:10:28 Now it just it otherwise what people do is you just go through the day.
1:10:32 Yeah.
1:10:32 And you're in stimulus and response throughout the day.
1:10:34 There's no higher intention or higher aspiration.
1:10:37 And if you actually talk with people about how they want to change their life,
1:10:41 it is that they want to feel the day differently.
1:10:44 Even if the same circumstances suck,
1:10:47 they want to go through it and sense it in a different way.
1:10:50 But you won't do that if all you do
1:10:51 is connect with the problems in the way today.
1:10:54 You have to connect with something in the future.
1:10:57 It's so hard to get people.
1:10:58 I love that.
1:10:58 Remember the future to to me it really is about knowing I'm
1:11:03 either operating from stimulus and response
1:11:05 and my minimal homeostasis baseline Brendan.
1:11:10 Y minimal self or aspirational self who showed up and won the day.
1:11:15 I it doesn't mean I don't have hours where I don't fall
1:11:17 into comfort or impatience or I'm not my best during an interview or whatever.
1:11:22 The minimal self shows up.
1:11:24 It's a ratio.
1:11:27 Does the aspirational show up and win the day more often than the minimal self?
1:11:32 And once you've I promise everyone listening once you're
1:11:34 in the aspirational self more often you find yourself higher performing
1:11:39 your results get better people are attracted to you.
1:11:42 You're in better groups.
1:11:43 You're leveling up the the peer set the success around you.
1:11:46 You're attracting different things.
1:11:48 And the weird thing is by making those hard choices things start getting easier.
1:11:53 Yes.
1:11:52 And you're like oh this this feels good now.
1:11:55 Not 5 years from now.
1:11:56 It's like it's starting to feel good now cuz I'm being responsible.
1:11:59 I'm handling these things.
1:12:00 And you handling life better and experiencing and generating into life
1:12:06 better makes you better.
1:12:08 And it makes today better, not some distant decade or, you know, 50 years.
1:12:12 You'll get there.
1:12:12 You'll your compound actions will lead into that, but you
1:12:16 might as well get to enjoy it today with that intention 100%.
1:12:18 And again, every day, today is all we have in this moment.
1:12:23 And do you want to live a crappy day or a beautiful day?
1:12:27 You know, you talked about the the minimal self and the aspirational self.
1:12:31 There's a great story or analogy about the two wolves that each one of us has.
1:12:36 The good wolf and the bad wolf inside of you.
1:12:39 And whichever one wins is the one you feed.
1:12:41 The wolf you feed that day inside of you.
1:12:43 And I, you know, I could have all the self-doubt and insecurity and anger
1:12:47 and frustration in the world if I chose to feed those parts of me.
1:12:51 Yes.
1:12:51 And I can also have all the joy
1:12:53 and beauty and gratitude and appreciation and generosity
1:12:57 and possibility thinking as well if I choose
1:13:00 to feed that part those parts of me daily.
1:13:05 Yes.
1:13:04 And if you want to live in a minimal part of your life,
1:13:08 feed those doubts and insecurities and speak about them and own
1:13:12 them and take and just let them take over your life.
1:13:15 Or say, I'm going to create a new life and I'm going to feed possibilities more.
1:13:20 I'm going to feed joy more, beauty, more, you know,
1:13:24 I'm going to I'm going to feed um forgiveness more.
1:13:27 I'm going to feed these things so I have more peace inside
1:13:30 of me and therefore I can create the freedom in my life.
1:13:34 Which again, going back to your free acronym,
1:13:36 I think a lot of people want to feel loved.
1:13:39 They want to feel free.
1:13:40 If you're not willing to take on life and new possibilities,
1:13:44 then you're going to always get what you've always had.
1:13:46 Mhm.
1:13:47 And again, I invest in coaching, in mentorship,
1:13:52 in deep personal relationships as well and masterminds.
1:13:57 And you have your book, High Performance Habits,
1:14:00 that helps people become extraordinary in their lives if
1:14:03 they're willing to take on new things in their lives.
1:14:06 Mhm.
1:14:07 And I want this conversation, I hope people go back and listen to this and watch
1:14:11 this over and over again cuz I want you,
1:14:13 everyone watching, listening to assess your life and just
1:14:17 say on a scale of 1 to 10, where am I at in my life?
1:14:21 Do I feel like my life's at a 10 in my health,
1:14:24 my relationships, my finances, my purpose?
1:14:27 Am I at a 10 or close to it?
1:14:29 Or am I down in the 2, three, four, five in certain areas?
1:14:32 And just take a simple internal assessment and ask yourself where am I at?
1:14:37 And do I want to live a life at a two,
1:14:39 three, four, or five or eight, nine or 10?
1:14:43 How do I want to live my life?
1:14:44 Do I want to be below a five or above an eight?
1:14:48 Not saying you'd have a perfect day, a 10 every day in every area.
1:14:51 But ask yourself that question.
1:14:53 And if you're not living above a seven right now,
1:14:57 it's time to start seeing where you can make changes, right?
1:15:00 and where you can take responsibility in your life to start
1:15:04 feeling different daily to draw on the future you want for yourself.
1:15:08 And we have a coaching program and a mastermind.
1:15:10 If if people want coaching and mentorship in a group mastermind setting with us,
1:15:16 they can go and check it out.
1:15:18 We'll have it linked up in the podcast or on the YouTube description,
1:15:21 or you can go right to lehouse.com/tra to learn more.
1:15:26 This is where you get to meet us
1:15:27 in person multiple times throughout the year in-person live events,
1:15:31 but also on an ongoing monthly basis virtually.
1:15:35 We'll share more about exactly what's involved and what
1:15:38 it's we just started it a few months ago.
1:15:40 It's been an amazing launch.
1:15:42 The people are so fired up.
1:15:43 It's incredible.
1:15:44 Taking action.
1:15:45 They're getting results.
1:15:46 The best teaching I've ever seen you do in Ultra.
1:15:49 Wow.
1:15:49 That was one of my I shared in a previous podcast.
1:15:51 I was like that was the it was for me expansive watching you do that on stage
1:15:56 for a day with our people.
1:15:57 It was just incredible.
1:15:59 I think it's been fun.
1:16:00 Yeah.
1:16:01 Put you back in that mentorship teaching role which
1:16:03 is so powerful because you have you've come so far
1:16:06 and you have so much to share with these people.
1:16:08 So I'm I'm glad you're doing that in Ultra and it's an honor to do it with you.
1:16:11 I'm excited.
1:16:12 And so if people are interested in really having
1:16:14 accountability and responsibility and ownership of their future results,
1:16:19 now is the time to take action and start shifting these things.
1:16:22 And if you want that support,
1:16:24 if you want that investment in your life for your future self,
1:16:28 then go to lis house.com/tra.
1:16:30 All the information will be there.
1:16:32 But this has been powerful, man.
1:16:34 I'm sure we could go on for another few hours on this, but again,
1:16:36 if you want to have a transformational life,
1:16:40 it starts here with high performance habits and really assessing
1:16:44 your life and seeing what it takes to get there.
1:16:46 This has been powerful.
1:16:47 Brendan Bashard, thank you so much for being here.
1:16:49 I appreciate I love you, brother.
1:16:51 So good.
1:16:52 You either use stress or stress uses you.
1:16:55 Yes.
1:16:54 And the way you use stress is, you know, the whole old whole phrase they say,
1:16:57 you know, when you're going through hell, keep going.
1:17:00 Yeah.
1:16:59 If you keep going, three things happen.
1:17:02 Number one, you discover how strong you really are.
1:17:05 You It's the only way you're going to find it is to push through it.