How Much Protein Is TOO Much? (Doctor Explains the Truth)
Dr. Alex Tatem
0:00 All right, let's talk about the most overhyped,
0:02 under-understood, under-understood, misunderstood, whatever,
0:05 and most aggressively marketed nutrient on the planet, protein.
0:09 Listen, we've all seen the ads and we've all heard the bros at the gym.
0:12 Bro, you got to eat your protein.
0:13 You need at least a gram per pound.
0:15 Bro, if you don't drink your shake within 30 minutes,
0:17 your gains literally evaporate into thin air.
0:19 But how much about what you've heard about protein is actually true?
0:23 And how much is bro science nonsense?
0:24 And how much protein do you as a regular human actually need?
0:28 What's up, guys?
0:29 Dr.
0:29 Alex here.
0:30 And I'm a board-certified urologist with fellowship training in men's health.
0:33 And today, we're going deep on protein.
0:35 And I mean deep.
0:36 We're actually talking about what protein is on a molecular level,
0:40 why your muscles care about it, and how much do you really need,
0:43 whether you're a couch potato, a casual gym-goer, a serious athlete,
0:47 or a bodybuilder who may or may not
0:48 have a little bit of a pharmacologic assistance.
0:51 We're also going to dive into whether all protein sources are created equal.
0:54 And spoiler alert, they definitely aren't.
0:57 And I'll be referencing some excellent content from Dr.
0:59 Mike Israetel on protein source quality, which you're going to want to hear.
1:02 So, buckle up.
1:03 This is going to be a masterclass in protein.
1:05 And stay until the end because I'm going to tease an upcoming
1:08 deep dive video specifically on protein powder that you won't want to miss.
1:12 Let's get into it.
1:13 Before we can truly understand protein,
1:15 we've got to zoom out and look at the big picture.
1:17 Everything you eat falls into three main categories of macronutrients.
1:20 And no, alcohol is not a macronutrient,
1:23 even though some of you are trying really hard to make that happen.
1:25 The three macros are carbs, fats, and protein.
1:28 Carbohydrates are your body's preferred energy source.
1:31 They break down into glucose, sugar,
1:33 and your muscles and brain absolutely love this stuff.
1:35 When you eat bread, rice, pasta, fruits, vegetables, you're eating carbs.
1:39 Carbs provide about 4 calories per gram.
1:42 Fats are essential for hormone production,
1:44 including testosterone, which I know you care about,
1:46 cell membrane integrity, and absorbing fat-soluble vitamins like A, D, E, and K.
1:51 Fats are calorie-dense at 9 calories per gram,
1:54 which is why eating a a of almonds will absolutely destroy your caloric goals.
1:58 And finally, there's protein, the star of today's show.
2:01 Protein also provides about 4 calories per gram, but unlike carbs and fats,
2:05 protein's main job isn't to be burned for energy.
2:07 Protein's primary role is structural.
2:10 It's the building block for your muscles, organs,
2:12 enzymes, hormones, and basically everything that makes you you.
2:15 Think of it this way, carbs and fats are the fuel in your car's tank.
2:18 Protein is the actual metal, rubber, and parts that make up the car itself.
2:22 Now, let's talk about why protein matters so much,
2:24 especially for athletes and gym enthusiasts.
2:27 Believe it or not, your body is in a constant state of protein turnover.
2:30 Right now, as you're watching this video,
2:32 your body is breaking down old, damaged proteins and building new ones.
2:35 This process is called protein synthesis.
2:38 And when you exercise, especially resistance training,
2:41 you create microscopic damage to your muscle fibers.
2:44 Damage may sound bad,
2:45 but this is actually the stimulus that you need to tell your body, "Hey,
2:48 we need to build these muscles back bigger and stronger."
2:50 It's the entire basis behind all of strength and hypertrophy training.
2:54 But here's the catch, your body can't build muscle out of thin air.
2:57 It needs the raw material to do so.
2:59 It needs amino acids, and it needs protein.
3:01 And we've got objective data to back this up.
3:03 In 2018, there was a landmark meta-analysis by Morton
3:07 that was published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine.
3:09 This was a study that analyzed 49 other studies with over 1,800 participants,
3:14 and protein supplementation was shown to significantly enhance muscle strength,
3:18 fat-free mass, and muscle fiber size during resistance training.
3:21 Without adequate protein, you're literally leaving gains on the table.
3:24 Your body wants to build muscle.
3:26 It has had the stimulus it needs from training,
3:28 but if you're not feeding it the raw materials,
3:30 it's like trying to build a house without bricks.
3:32 So, we're going to get really nerdy here for a minute.
3:34 What actually is protein at the molecular level?
3:37 Proteins are long chains of smaller molecules called amino acids.
3:40 And think of these amino acids like LEGO bricks.
3:43 Individual amino acids link together
3:45 in specific sequences to build different proteins,
3:48 just like different LEGO combinations build different structures.
3:50 There are 20 different amino acids that combine in various ways
3:54 to create the tens of thousands of different proteins in your body.
3:57 And if we're going to get even more specific,
3:59 out of those 20 amino acids, nine of them are considered essential.
4:02 Now, why are these called essential?
4:04 Not because they're any more important than the other 11,
4:06 but these are essential because your body can't make them on their own.
4:09 You must get them from your diet.
4:11 So, that means that they are essential to consume.
4:13 And those nine essential amino acids are: histidine, isoleucine, leucine.
4:17 This one's super important for muscle building, remember this name.
4:20 Lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan.
4:24 Shout out to Thanksgiving.
4:26 And lastly, valine.
4:27 Now, three of these, leucine, isoleucine, and valine,
4:30 are known as branched-chain amino acids, or BCAAs.
4:33 You've probably seen BCAA supplements at the store.
4:36 Leucine in particular is like the ignition switch for muscle protein synthesis.
4:40 It activates the mTOR pathway,
4:42 which is the molecular signal that tells your muscles,
4:44 "Okay, start building." The other 11 amino acids are called non-essential.
4:48 Again, not because they're not important,
4:49 but because your body can manufacture them on its own from other compounds.
4:53 Also, don't go out and buy a BCAA supplement, that's a whole other video.
4:56 Now, this is one of the most important
4:57 sections of this whole video, so listen up.
4:59 Not all protein sources are created equal.
5:01 And this is where Dr.
5:02 Mike's video on the topic did a really good
5:04 job of breaking things down for the fitness community.
5:06 Here's the question you need to ask:
5:08 Are the 10 g of protein from a steak the same as 10 g from a protein shake?
5:12 And what about the 10 g of protein from beans or bread?
5:15 And the answer is, absolutely not.
5:17 There's actually a scientific scoring system called the PDCAAS,
5:22 protein digestibility corrected amino acid score.
5:25 It sounds complicated, but it's actually pretty straightforward,
5:27 and it measures two things.
5:29 The first is amino acid profile.
5:31 Does this protein source contain all
5:32 nine essential amino acids in adequate amounts?
5:35 And the second is digestibility.
5:37 How much of that protein can your body actually absorb and use?
5:40 The PDCAAS scale goes from zero to one, with one being perfect.
5:44 And a score of one means the protein provides 100%
5:47 or more of all essential amino acids needed with excellent digestibility.
5:51 So, let's look at some common protein sources.
5:53 So, let's start out with our 1.0 scoring food sources.
5:56 These are considered to be perfect scores,
5:58 which make them excellent sources of protein.
6:00 This includes whey protein.
6:02 Again, this includes concentrate, isolate, and hydrolysate.
6:05 They're all 1.0.
6:06 The next is casein, followed by egg protein, and soy protein isolate.
6:11 Other 1.0 options include milk, chicken, beef,
6:14 and fish when digestibility is all accounted for.
6:17 So, after all these perfect scoring sources,
6:19 we have food sources with a PDCAAS of 0.5 to 0.9.
6:23 This includes sources like pea protein, which has a score of 0.89,
6:28 chickpeas and lentils, which have a score between 0.6 and 0.7,
6:32 and rice protein, which has a score of 0.4 to 0.5,
6:35 primarily limited by its lack of lysine.
6:38 So, now we get to food sources that are relatively poor source of protein,
6:41 which includes PDCAAS scores below 0.5.
6:45 And what do we find there?
6:46 It's wheat gluten.
6:47 So, bread only has a PDCAAS of 0.25.
6:51 So, what does this mean practically?
6:53 If you 10 g of protein from wheat gluten,
6:55 your body can only use about 2.5 g of that for muscle building,
6:58 but 10 g from whey, your body can use all 10 g.
7:02 Now, in Dr.
7:02 Mike's video, he recommended that about 75% of your daily
7:06 protein intake should come from those high-quality sources,
7:08 which are those with a PDCAAS above 0.9.
7:12 And here's some good news for my vegan and vegetarian friends.
7:14 While individual plant proteins may be incomplete,
7:17 you can combine them strategically to create a complete amino acid profile.
7:21 For example, rice protein is low in lysine, but high in methionine.
7:25 Pea protein is the exact opposite.
7:26 It's high in lysine and low in methionine.
7:29 You combine them, and boom,
7:30 you've got a complete protein profile approaching a score of 1.0,
7:34 which is why many vegan protein powders
7:36 blend both rice and pea protein together.
7:38 One more thing, collagen supplements are everywhere right now.
7:41 People are putting them in their coffee, their smoothies, their prayers,
7:44 and while collagen may have benefits for skin and joint health,
7:47 it has a very low PDCAAS score for muscle
7:50 building because it's missing several essential amino acids.
7:53 So, you can't count your scoop of collagen
7:55 as part of your protein goal for muscle gains.
7:58 All right, this is the section you've been waiting for.
8:00 Let's talk numbers, and I'm going to break
8:02 this down by population because the answer truly
8:04 depends on who you are and what you're
8:05 trying to accomplish when it comes to protein goals.
8:08 First, some context.
8:09 The RDA, or recommended dietary allowance,
8:11 set by the government for protein is only
8:13 0.8 g per kilogram of body weight per day.
8:16 But, here's the thing.
8:17 The RDA is designed to prevent deficiency in sedentary individuals
8:21 and was measured with nitrogen balance studies that were far from optimal.
8:24 It is not a realistic goal for maintaining
8:26 any sort of performance or overall health.
8:29 It's basically the bare minimum you need
8:31 to keep from turning into a human skeleton.
8:33 All right, we're starting off with my people,
8:35 the couch potatoes, non-athletes and sedentary adults.
8:38 For women, you want to shoot for about 0.8 to 1.2 g per kilograms per day.
8:43 That's about 50 to 80 g of protein for a 150-lb woman.
8:46 For men, it's going to be about the same.
8:48 You also want 0.8 to 1.2 g per kilos per day,
8:51 which is about 60 to 100 g for a 180-lb man.
8:54 Moving on to recreational exercisers,
8:57 or as I like to call them, weekend pickleball people.
8:59 For men and women, you're going to want to shoot
9:01 for around 1.2 to 1.6 g per kilograms per day.
9:05 So, although the FDA's RDA may not be worth the paper it's
9:07 printed on, the International Society of Sports
9:10 Nutrition in 2017 published a position
9:12 statement that actually advocated for a pretty reasonable protein goal of 1.4
9:17 to 2 g per kilograms per day
9:19 for physically active individuals engaging in exercise.
9:22 And it makes sense.
9:23 The more physically active you are, the more protein you're going to need.
9:26 So, let's get into it.
9:26 Let's talk about serious athletes and resistance trainers.
9:29 The Morton 2018 meta-analysis I mentioned
9:32 earlier found that muscle and strength gains
9:34 tended to plateau around 1.62 g per kilo per day of protein intake.
9:38 But, and this is a big but, the 95% confidence
9:41 interval ranged from 1.03 to 2.2 g per kilo per day.
9:46 That is a pretty wide range.
9:48 In a more recent analysis by Greg Nuckols
9:50 and the stronger by science team suggests that true
9:52 optimal intake for maximizing muscle growth might be
9:55 closer to 1.75 g per kilos per day,
9:57 which is about 0.8 g per pound of body weight.
10:00 For women, they recommend potentially going slightly higher up to 2.05
10:04 g per kilo per day as a better safe than sorry approach.
10:07 Some more info for female athletes.
10:09 A systematic review in 2020 found
10:11 that female athletes performing resistance, endurance,
10:13 or intermittent exercise need at least 1.28 to 1.71
10:17 g per kilos per day as an estimated average requirement.
10:20 And this goes up for male athletes.
10:22 Men were found to need 1.6 to 2.2 g per kilo per day,
10:26 which is going to be a commonly cited range with 2.2
10:29 serving as the reasonable upper target for those wanting maximum assurance.
10:32 Now, let's talk about the big leagues.
10:34 Strength athletes and bodybuilders.
10:36 These are going to be the big boys
10:37 and girls that are really trying to push limits.
10:39 A 2019 study using the indicator amino acid oxidation method,
10:43 which is a more sophisticated technique for measuring protein needs,
10:46 found that the estimated average requirement for male bodybuilders was 1.7 g per
10:50 kilos per day with a recommended intake of 2.2 g per kilo per day.
10:54 For natural bodybuilders, it was about 1.8 to 2.4 g per kilo per day,
10:59 especially during contest prep when calories are restricted.
11:01 Higher protein intakes help preserve muscle mass during a caloric deficit.
11:05 Now, let's talk about the enhanced community because we have to be honest,
11:09 the majority of bodybuilders are using pharmacological assistance.
11:12 No surprise there.
11:13 And if you're taking medication to help you build bigger muscles,
11:16 aka a bigger house, then you're going to need more bricks.
11:19 Anabolic steroids dramatically increase protein synthesis rates.
11:23 That's why we take them.
11:24 And we're talking about a protein turnover rate that's
11:26 two to three times higher than a natural athlete.
11:29 And this is one of those primary mechanisms by which all anabolics work.
11:32 They enhance nitrogen retention and allow muscles
11:35 to utilize more dietary protein for growth.
11:37 And because of this enhanced protein synthesis,
11:39 enhanced athletes can likely benefit from an even higher protein intake,
11:43 potentially 2.5 to 3 g per kilo per day or more.
11:47 But I have to be clear, there is limited direct research on this because,
11:50 well, good luck getting that through an ethics board.
11:52 But what we do know is that enhanced
11:54 athletes can handle more training volume, recover faster,
11:56 and build muscle more rapidly,
11:58 all of which increases the demand for dietary as a raw material.
12:02 So for enhanced athletes, the sky may be the limit.
12:05 Also, the old school advice that you can only absorb 30
12:08 to maybe 40 g of protein per meal is complete hogwash.
12:11 Data shows that it comes down to your daily intake of protein,
12:15 with studies showing that patients that have
12:17 a higher protein intake can actually maintain
12:19 muscle protein synthesis for many hours longer
12:22 than patients only getting 30 g per meal.
12:25 But what's the practical takeaway from all this?
12:27 The classic 1 g per pound of body weight
12:29 recommendation that the bro at the gym gave you,
12:31 it's actually pretty close to what most science supports for serious lifters.
12:34 It's a little higher than the minimum effective dose,
12:36 but it provides a good margin of safety and it's easy to remember.
12:39 For most people engaged in serious resistance training,
12:42 aiming for 0.7 to 1 g per pound of body weight is a solid evidence-based target.
12:47 Unless you're enhanced, then you're going to need a lot more.
12:50 Okay, so now you know how much protein you need.
12:52 The next logical question is,
12:53 can you get all of that from food or do you need to supplement?
12:56 The honest answer is, it depends.
12:59 Can you get 150 to 200 g of protein per day from whole foods alone?
13:03 Absolutely.
13:04 A chicken breast has about 30 g.
13:06 A can of tuna has about 20 to 25 g.
13:09 Four eggs have about 24 g and a cup of Greek yogurt has about 15 to 20 g.
13:13 If you eat three meals a day with 40 to 50 g of protein each,
13:17 plus a couple high protein snacks, you're there.
13:19 But is that realistic?
13:20 And here's where we have to talk
13:21 about where supplementation becomes really valuable.
13:24 The first issue is convenience.
13:25 Let's be real, not everyone has time
13:27 to meal prep five chicken breasts at 6:00 a.m.
13:29 before work, and a protein shake takes 30 seconds to make.
13:32 Two is cost.
13:33 Gram for gram, whey protein is actually
13:35 one of the cheapest protein sources available.
13:37 Cheaper than chicken breast, definitely cheaper than steak.
13:40 The third is caloric efficiency.
13:42 If you're trying to lose fat while maintaining muscle,
13:44 you need high protein with relatively low calories.
13:47 A scoop of whey isolate gives you about 25
13:49 g of protein for about 100 to 120 calories.
13:52 Try getting that ratio from a fatty ribeye.
13:55 Fourth issue is timing.
13:56 For new lifters, post-workout, they're going to want a fast-digesting protein
14:00 to capitalize on that elevated muscle protein synthesis,
14:03 also known as the anabolic window.
14:04 Again, that's a whole other discussion.
14:06 It's much wider than people think it is, especially for trained athletes.
14:09 But if you're looking at whey protein, that's only 30 to 40 minutes to digest.
14:12 If we're talking chicken, maybe 3 to 4 hours.
14:15 So, do you need to supplement?
14:17 No, but should you consider it for practical reasons?
14:20 Probably yes, for most people.
14:21 If you walk into any supplement store or any Costco for that matter,
14:25 you're going to be hit with I can only describe as a wall of protein chaos.
14:29 Whey, casein, soy, pea, hemp, rice, beef,
14:31 egg, collagen, blends, hydrosols, plant blends, mass gainers.
14:35 It's overwhelming, and the marketing, don't even get me started.
14:38 Extreme anabolic matrix,
14:40 ultra-bioavailable quad release technology, protein for women.
14:44 What does that even mean?
14:45 Dude, it's just protein.
14:47 Let me simplify this for you.
14:48 What actually matters for protein are a handful of things.
14:51 Priority number one, always emphasize whole food protein sources.
14:55 Chicken, fish, beef, eggs, dairy, legumes, tofu.
14:59 These should form the foundation of your protein intake.
15:01 They should come with additional nutrients, fiber,
15:03 and satiety that supplements just can't replace.
15:06 Priority number two, you got to use supplements to fill gaps.
15:09 That's it.
15:09 That's what they're there for.
15:11 They supplement your diet.
15:12 They should never replace it.
15:13 So, what's the best bang for your buck?
15:15 It's going to be protein powder, specifically whey protein for most people.
15:18 It's cheap, it's high quality, it tastes decent,
15:21 and has decades of research to support its efficacy.
15:23 Bars, ready-to-drink shakes, and other formats have their place for convenience,
15:27 but they typically cost more per gram of protein
15:29 and often come with extra macros that you may not want.
15:32 Let's start off with the basics, and we're talking whey concentrate.
15:35 This is the most basic, least processed form of whey.
15:37 It's typically about 70 to 80% of protein by weight,
15:40 with the remaining 20 to 30% being carbohydrates,
15:42 including lactose, fats, and minerals.
15:44 The pros are it's usually the cheapest option, and it retains more beneficial
15:48 milk compounds like immunoglobulins and lactoferrin,
15:51 and it often has better flavor due to that fat content.
15:54 The cons are it's higher in carbs and fat, and it also contains lactose,
15:57 which can cause some digestive issues for some people,
15:59 or for the people that have to live with those people.
16:02 And then we move on to whey isolate.
16:04 Now, isolate undergoes additional filtering to remove
16:06 most of the fats, carbs, and lactose.
16:09 The result is a product that's about 90% protein by weight.
16:12 The pros are is that it has
16:13 a really high protein percentage and very low lactose, usually less than 1%,
16:17 which is generally tolerable for most lactose-intolerant individuals.
16:20 And it also has very few calories per gram of protein.
16:23 The cons are is that it's more expensive than concentrate.
16:26 And then we move on to whey hydrolysate.
16:28 Hydrolysate is the whey protein that has
16:30 been pre-digested through exposure to heat,
16:32 acids, or enzymes that break the protein
16:34 chains into smaller peptides and amino acids.
16:37 It's essentially partially digested before you even drink it.
16:40 The pros are it has the fastest absorption of any form of protein,
16:43 and it may be easier to digest for those with sensitive stomachs.
16:46 The cons is just that it's super expensive, and it can often have a bitter taste
16:50 that they have to mask with more artificial sweeteners.
16:53 So, which should you take?
16:54 My honest opinion, for most people, whey isolate.
16:57 That's it.
16:58 The research shows no meaningful
16:59 difference in muscle building between concentrate,
17:02 isolate, and hydrolysate when total protein intake is equated,
17:05 and a 2019 meta-analysis found that all forms
17:07 of whey effectively support muscle growth and fat loss.
17:10 And the benefit of isolate is that it's processed enough to minimize the gut
17:14 effects of maybe some of the lactose issues that a lot of people have,
17:17 but it's nowhere near as expensive or processed as hydrolysate.
17:20 Now, if you're on a budget, that's fine.
17:22 Go concentrate.
17:23 If you're lactose intolerant and you're watching every calorie,
17:26 again, you're going to be fine with isolate.
17:28 But if money is no object and you want the fastest absorption,
17:31 I mean, hey, go hydrolysate.
17:33 But know that you're paying a premium
17:34 for what could be a relatively small advantage.
17:37 The truth is is that really expensive protein,
17:39 no matter what it may claim on the box, is usually just ripping you off.
17:43 Don't get fooled by purity marketing or sky-high prices.
17:46 Now, I know I just gave you a lot of information about protein powder,
17:49 but here's the thing, we've only scratched the surface.
17:52 In my next video, I'm doing
17:53 a complete deep dive specifically on protein powders.
17:56 We're going to cover how to read protein powder labels like a pro,
17:59 red flags that indicate low-quality or amino spiked proteins,
18:03 and the best protein powders in each category.
18:05 We're talking whey, casein, or plant-based.
18:08 Then we're going to get into third-party testing
18:10 and which brands actually deliver on what they promise.
18:13 And finally, we're going to close out
18:14 with my personal recommendations at various price points.
18:17 We're going to do a plant protein showdown for all my vegan brothers out there,
18:20 talking soy versus pea versus rice versus hemp.
18:23 And then we'll close out with my personal
18:25 recommendations at all the various price points.
18:27 So, make sure you're subscribed and hit that notification
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18:31 All right, let's wrap this one up with some quick takeaways.
18:34 Number one, protein is essential for muscle building,
18:36 repair, and countless bodily functions.
18:38 And we all need more than we think.
18:40 Number two, not all protein is created equal.
18:42 Aim for high-quality sources with a PDCAAS score close to 1.0.
18:47 Number three, if you're training seriously,
18:49 target at least 1.6 to 2.2 g per kilo per day.
18:52 And if you're enhanced, you're going to need even more.
18:55 We haven't found that ceiling yet, but um it's really high.
18:58 Number four, supplements are useful tools for convenience and cost,
19:01 but you have to prioritize whole foods first.
19:03 There are still micronutrients that are critical for your diet
19:06 that go beyond just carbs, fats, and protein.
19:09 Number five, whey protein concentrate or isolate is
19:11 the best bang for your buck for most people.
19:13 So, if you found this video helpful,
19:15 smash that like button, subscribe to the channel,
19:17 and drop a comment below telling me what's your favorite protein source.
19:20 I read all your comments and I want to hear from you.
19:22 And that's it.
19:23 It's Dr.
19:24 Alex signing off, and I'll see you in the next one.