Conversa de casal: Brasileira e Português

0:00 Hello and welcome to the Portuguese

0:04 With Leo Intermediate Level Podcast, episode number 100.

0:09 A special episode because I have my fiancée, Marcela, as a guest.

0:15 Hi!

0:16 Welcome!

0:17 Hello!

0:18 Marcela is from Brazil, so in this episode you'll hear a Portuguese accent.

0:23 And from a Brazilian, an accent from the interior of São Paulo, Brazil.

0:27 Exactly.

0:29 By the way, before we begin, as always,

0:31 I recommend you click on the first link in the description

0:35 to access the transcript of this episode and all the others,

0:40 because that way you'll be able to follow what we're saying more easily.

0:46 Why do I have Marcela with me today?

0:48 Because I thought it would be a good idea,

0:51 in this 100th episode, to talk a little about, to give an update,

0:55 an update on my life in the last year and a half,

1:00 and basically our life, my life since I met Marcela and how it's been.

1:06 It's good because we really met a year and a half ago,

1:10 and I think a lot has happened, right?

1:12 Exactly.

1:13 We first met through an app called Tinder.

1:20 Can we talk about it?

1:22 Of course, it's a great app that I recommend.

1:25 At the end of April of this year, of last year,

1:29 so April, January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August...

1:34 Four months.

1:36 A year and four months.

1:37 It's not even a year and a half,

1:39 we've known each other for a year and four months and we're already engaged.

1:42 We're already engaged.

1:43 It's true, and I proposed, I asked you to marry me on June 30th of this year,

1:50 so a year and two months after meeting you.

1:56 Exactly, when we...

1:58 But the truth is, I already knew I wanted to marry you,

2:01 so four months after we met, I already knew I wanted to marry you.

2:05 When you find someone who's like you, right?

2:09 I think it's easier to make that kind of decision, right?

2:12 I think it was very easy for you to make that decision.

2:16 Well, I've loved you since the first day I saw you...

2:20 Thank you, that's great.

2:23 Okay, but I think there's also the fact that we're very similar, right, love?

2:28 And that's what we're going to talk about,

2:31 we're going to structure this episode chronologically.

2:33 So we met here in Lisbon, through Tinder,

2:37 and we haven't been apart since day one.

2:41 Exactly.

2:42 And I had a trip planned through Europe, I went...

2:48 Poland, right?

2:49 I went to the Poliglot...

2:50 no, I went to Berlin with two friends, that was in May,

2:54 then I went to the 2024 Poliglot Gathering

2:57 and then I went to Poland to visit another friend.

3:01 It was a 20-day trip.

3:03 And unfortunately, I had this trip scheduled for 10 days after I met Marcela.

3:10 Exactly, in other words, we met, we had our first date on a Sunday,

3:14 I remember it was on a Sunday.

3:16 Exactly.

3:17 We were together...

3:18 We went to the Senhora do Monte viewpoint,

3:20 which is my favorite viewpoint in Lisbon.

3:22 And well, I didn't know it, but it was mine too,

3:24 so that was a sign for me that things are going very well here.

3:29 Exactly.

3:30 And then we spent 10 days together, like, every day,

3:36 we saw each other and then I was like...

3:40 what now?

3:41 He's going away for 20 days, I'm completely in love with this man, what do I do?

3:48 I was thinking, well, I'm going away for 20 days,

3:51 a beautiful girl like Marcela, for sure...

3:54 I didn't know she was so in love with me.

3:56 In other words, there was clearly a lot of chemistry, but I thought,

4:01 I'll come back and she'll have already moved on, so

4:05 I decided to give her the key to my house.

4:08 That is, 10 days after meeting you, I already trusted you enough,

4:11 I gave you the key to my house and Marcela stayed, you stayed in my apartment.

4:15 Exactly.

4:15 Because I lived alone, but Marcela shared an apartment with other people,

4:20 so it was more convenient for her too.

4:23 And I think it was a sign,

4:24 it was a way for me to show that I was really interested in you.

4:28 Exactly.

4:28 And then, well, you came back,

4:31 so we won't go into details and all that, but just to...

4:33 No, but when we got back,

4:36 we got into a routine of exploring Lisbon together and going to...

4:40 We used to go to the gym together, remember?

4:43 It was something, and working too, but going to the gym was something I

4:48 thought was very difficult to find in relationships.

4:52 In my previous relationships, I had never had that.

4:55 I had never been with someone who also liked the same type of workout as me,

4:59 who had the same openness to training,

5:02 to eating in a way that isn't the way people normally eat.

5:06 My diet is very carnivorous and a little less conventional,

5:10 and you align yourself with the ways I eat and everything else.

5:15 But we also need to say, right?

5:17 People need to know that I'm a very, very easygoing person too.

5:21 So, I'm a very...

5:23 That's it, it wouldn't be a difficulty for me either,

5:27 even if I didn't like it...

5:29 I also like carnivorous eating and all

5:32 that, but I'm also very open to trying new things,

5:36 so I didn't know this way of eating either,

5:39 and we started together and I started to like it too.

5:42 It's a carnivore/keto/paleo, that's one thing.

5:46 But the gym thing was really good because it brought us closer together,

5:51 because exercising together is good.

5:53 In other words, we both have the same

5:57 mindset about training and the importance of health.

6:00 Health is very important, yes.

6:02 We both stay in shape, which is important to me, you being gorgeous.

6:08 It's also important to me that you're gorgeous, my love.

6:11 Thank you, and I think it's important in a relationship to maintain that desire,

6:17 but we also spent 20, 25 minutes,

6:20 half an hour walking to the gym and back, it was a walk,

6:25 and we talked during those walks, and it was also an opportunity to...

6:29 In other words, it could have been a time when I went to the gym alone,

6:33 you stayed doing your things, it could have been a time of separation,

6:36 and this was a moment that brought us together and even today we

6:39 have the habit of going to the gym four or five times a week.

6:42 Exactly.

6:43 The gym where we are now is a half-hour walk away, so it's half an hour to go,

6:46 half an hour to come back,

6:49 and we always do that walk talking and we talk about many things.

6:55 That's right, combining...

6:56 I won't even say combining the useful with the pleasant,

7:00 the pleasant with the pleasant, right?

7:02 Because we already enjoy working out.

7:04 But I think it's useful in the sense that it's exercise.

7:07 In other words, we don't even realize

7:09 that we do many good things for the relationship.

7:12 Yes, it's true.

7:14 We do a lot.

7:15 I think it's useful for the relationship.

7:16 It's very useful for the relationship.

7:17 Developing this conversation, this communication, talking about various topics,

7:22 we talk about everything we think, our reflections.

7:27 Yes, yes.

7:27 Look, we really talk about everything when we go, this really unites the couple,

7:31 but I think it's even good to give this advice to people,

7:34 because I don't know if people have this vision, but in fact,

7:38 working out, let's think about working out first,

7:41 working out together with the person you like, the person you love,

7:45 creates a very strong connection because

7:48 this physical activity releases all the happiness hormones,

7:52 endorphins, dopamine and everything else.

7:54 I think it's something that's very good for relationships.

7:57 So, that was already a very positive point.

8:00 But, in addition to that, talking, right?

8:03 Talking is so important.

8:04 I know it might sound strange what I'm going to say,

8:08 but sometimes people forget to talk;

8:10 they're so immersed in life, in their daily routines,

8:14 in work, they arrive home tired,

8:16 and I completely understand, it's not a criticism,

8:19 but conversation is such a basic thing,

8:22 and sometimes we forget to reinforce this practice,

8:26 which is so good for a couple.

8:29 And I just remembered, we were talking about how we talked about many things.

8:32 That was also a very good thing from the beginning,

8:37 because we both have very similar passions.

8:41 In other words, on our first date we made a toast to grammar,

8:46 which is typical of language nerds, right?

8:48 So, we're both passionate about languages ​​in general,

8:52 about literature and everything else, so that brought us together right away.

8:55 I didn't think you were going to tell me that.

8:56 Of course I'm going to tell you that.

8:57 But it's a good thing, really, we made a toast to grammar.

9:00 And what I do, podcasts, YouTube, you too, you're a language teacher...

9:07 From French, and now you have your own YouTube channel too.

9:10 By the way, I'm noticing that we're talking while looking at the camera,

9:14 when in reality in a podcast we should just

9:17 be talking to each other and the camera is there.

9:20 We're used to making YouTube videos where we look at the camera.

9:22 It's true.

9:23 But it's true, Marcela created her YouTube channel,

9:26 "French with Mar," which by the time this episode comes out,

9:31 will already have passed a thousand subscribers, for sure.

9:33 So, if you´re listening to this and you're learning French,

9:38 I recommend Marcela's YouTube channel.

9:41 Thank you, my love.

9:43 And you also released your first video on the day I proposed to you,

9:47 two months ago, June 30th, which is Marcela's birthday.

9:51 Exactly, that is, it was a very important day because it was my birthday.

9:57 I won't say how old I was turning, better not, and on that same day,

10:06 Leo proposed to me and I started making videos for YouTube,

10:11 so it was really a very special day.

10:14 But going back, that day was two months ago, back in 2024, we met,

10:20 we immediately created a very good connection from the beginning,

10:24 I took that trip and came back,

10:27 and then we traveled, you challenged me to travel together in July,

10:33 you had a trip planned with a friend of yours to see the midnight sun in Norway,

10:39 and I accepted right away.

10:41 And I think that, another of our great passions is travel,

10:46 and you had the dream of being a digital nomad and working in what you love,

10:52 which is teaching French, and being a content creator.

10:56 And Marcela had that dream before she met me.

10:59 And it was a huge coincidence, right?

11:01 You meeting me and me doing exactly that.

11:04 It really was, it was an incredible thing because that's it, it's like...

11:10 Well, for those who don't know,

11:12 I'm a person who doesn't believe in coincidences, right?

11:16 I think there's an intelligence orchestrating

11:19 all of this, because it really was...

11:22 the perfect encounter, right?

11:25 I already had this idea of ​​creating a channel;

11:30 I'd wanted to create content for quite some time.

11:32 I was already working online,

11:34 and being a digital nomad was a project I was starting,

11:38 including coming to Lisbon- just to give you some context,

11:41 I was in France, right?

11:43 And coming to Lisbon was my first trip, let's say.

11:47 Oh, yes.

11:48 Marcela is Brazilian, but you moved to France in 2017?

11:54 2017, so...

11:54 Since 2017 you've been living in France.

11:57 She came to spend some time in Lisbon to see what it's like,

12:01 and that's where we met.

12:02 Yes, so we also had many trips back and forth

12:07 to France in that year and a half, but anyway.

12:11 And so, it seems that's how it was,

12:15 the universe orchestrated this meeting because I wanted all of this.

12:18 I wanted to be a digital nomad, I wanted to record content,

12:23 and suddenly I meet someone who already does it,

12:27 who had already been doing it for four years at the time, right?

12:33 And I already knew the whole process, right?

12:37 So...

12:37 And I, and I wanted, I thought I had this dream of being a digital nomad.

12:42 If you've been listening to my podcast for a while,

12:45 I've talked about it in a few...

12:48 A past episode where I talk about my life, I've had this dream since 2017,

12:53 when I discovered that it's possible to live, work online, and travel.

12:58 It became my dream.

13:00 And now that I finally have a stable

13:04 YouTube channel and a stable online business,

13:06 in the relationship I was in before, my ex-girlfriend didn't want this life.

13:10 So I felt that I either had to choose...

13:13 for me, and most people don't want this life, let's be honest.

13:17 So my mindset was either I have the free

13:20 life I always wanted or I'm in a relationship.

13:23 It's not possible to have both.

13:25 And with Marcela, I realized that...

13:27 with you, I feel even freer.

13:29 And so that's it, like, I thought it was impossible, and in the end, it wasn't.

13:35 And here's what I wanted to say:

13:36 that first trip to Norway was the first time we traveled together,

13:39 and it showed that we're compatible when it comes to travel.

13:43 Was that in July, June, or July?

13:45 It was July.

13:46 Then we spent August here in Portugal,

13:48 and then in September we set off to live the life of digital nomads.

13:52 For the great adventure, right?

13:54 You delivered, so I think that needs to be said too.

14:00 In just under, I don't know, two months,

14:02 Leo had already given me the key to his apartment,

14:06 but I hadn't fully settled in yet.

14:09 I had the keys, I could go there whenever I wanted,

14:12 but I was still sharing the house...

14:14 The other house where you lived.

14:15 The other house where you lived.

14:16 And when did you move into mine?

14:18 And I moved in with you a little before that trip to Norway.

14:21 So, it was in July.

14:23 No, it was June, I think.

14:24 In June, okay.

14:25 So, in June I was already there,

14:28 because on my birthday last year I remember I was already at your house.

14:31 Okay.

14:32 Remember?

14:32 Yes, yes, yes.

14:33 You also had a trip already planned.

14:35 Yes, yes, as a tour guide.

14:37 But anyway, the point here is, we met at the end of April, so April,

14:43 May, June, not even two months later

14:46 I was already 100% settled in Leonardo's house.

14:49 I already had all my things there.

14:51 Well, it's also necessary to say that I don't have many things.

14:54 And another point of compatibility is that we're both minimalists.

14:58 And it wasn't very difficult; we both had that mindset,

15:01 you did too in your previous relationship,

15:03 you also wanted to live this digital nomad life, and it wasn't possible.

15:09 So we met at the right time, we both like the same things,

15:14 we're very much in love, we love each other very much,

15:18 and we both want the same lifestyle.

15:20 Exactly.

15:21 And then I gave up my house;

15:23 it was already scheduled to be handed over the keys to my house,

15:27 to end the lease at the end of August last year,

15:32 and since then, since September 1st, 2024, we haven't had a house.

15:37 We don't have a house.

15:38 We're staying at my mother's house for a while while we're here in Portugal,

15:43 but basically, in September,

15:44 we were traveling around Europe because we had some things going on.

15:48 We had events, yes.

15:50 Then we went to Bali in October, we lived in Bali for a month,

15:54 and that's how, I think, the big trip that brought us closer, right?

15:58 It was very special.

16:01 It was there that we started developing "French with Mar," your project.

16:04 First it was a podcast, and then the YouTube channel.

16:08 Now the YouTube channel too.

16:09 Then I went to Thailand, you had to go to France.

16:13 Yes, yes.

16:13 In November.

16:14 Then I went to meet you in France.

16:16 Yes, we stayed in France for a while too.

16:19 And then we went to Argentina.

16:21 We went to Argentina, to Brazil.

16:23 Wait, first we went to Argentina,

16:25 we spent Christmas with my family in Argentina.

16:27 Because I have family in Argentina,

16:29 my mother also went there for us and my brother.

16:32 And then it was South America from December until,

16:36 we go to Brazil, until Carnival, until March.

16:39 Exactly.

16:40 Yes, because we also spent...

16:41 And I met your family.

16:43 And we spent Carnival in Brazil and he met my family.

16:46 And already there, in January, when we were in Brazil,

16:49 in February, I asked your father for your hand in marriage.

16:53 So, I already knew I wanted to marry you.

16:55 Because that's also important to say.

16:59 I come from a very small town in the interior of São Paulo.

17:05 I don't know if the people who listen to the podcast realize

17:09 the size of Brazil and all that, but I believe they do;

17:14 Brazil is a huge country.

17:16 And in some places, like my town, for example, some traditions are maintained,

17:23 such as this thing of asking the daughter for her hand in marriage,

17:30 asking her father for her hand in marriage.

17:34 So, I, the potential husband, would ask her father for her hand in marriage.

17:41 Yes, it's something that's changing a lot; it's not done all over Brazil,

17:47 that's not what I'm trying to say, but I'm saying that...

17:51 Especially in more rural, more interior areas.

17:54 Exactly.

17:55 Like your case.

17:56 Which still preserves certain traditions.

17:59 In my case, for example,

18:02 it wasn't necessarily an obligation for Leo to do this, but it's well regarded.

18:07 So, my father was super emotional, very happy because...

18:11 I also think this is interesting to mention.

18:14 My father is a person...

18:16 He's more...

18:17 How can I say it?

18:19 He is more...

18:20 He is very tough...

18:22 He's that typical macho guy.

18:24 Exactly.

18:24 And he's that guy...

18:26 who believes that men don't cry, and all that.

18:31 But at the same time that he says all that, he's

18:36 a very sensitive person with a huge heart, a very dear person.

18:41 And of course, seeing this situation,

18:44 being in this situation, he really got very emotional.

18:49 Yes, and his family in general welcomed me very well in Brazil.

18:53 Very good.

18:54 It was my first time in Brazil too, but we'll be back.

18:57 We will.

18:58 Actually, now, after we come back from Brazil in March.

19:02 And what did we do?

19:05 Oh, there was so much, we went to...

19:08 We were here, we were here.

19:09 We were in Prague and...

19:10 Wait, but that was in May, June.

19:12 Wow, seriously, I'm losing track of time already, so many trips.

19:15 I think we stopped here at the beginning of March.

19:18 I also work as a tour guide.

19:19 So I did some...

19:21 I had to do some trips, I went to Japan.

19:23 Yes, meanwhile I went to France.

19:25 I went to Egypt, you were in France.

19:28 Okay, so there were some moments when we were more apart, which is also good.

19:31 That is, this big trip that started in September of last year and went until

19:37 March– which was n't even a year– we didn't know each other for even a year,

19:40 I think it allowed us to get to know each other.

19:42 Usually, when two people travel together,

19:44 you can quickly understand their compatibility.

19:46 And that's when we realized it.

19:48 It also explains why we're getting married so "soon," in quotes,

19:52 after meeting each other.

19:54 We know what we want and we've already been

19:57 through so much together in such a short time.

19:59 Exactly.

20:00 I think we've talked about this many times, right?

20:03 In such a short time together, we've experienced things that, unfortunately,

20:08 many couples don't experience in 10 years.

20:12 All the trips, all the...

20:14 We made many friends, because that's also important.

20:17 We are very open people who like to talk to people, who like to make friends.

20:23 So, our life never...

20:25 falls into a routine, like it has a certain routine.

20:29 We have a healthy work routine that allows

20:34 us to be open to spontaneity afterwards.

20:38 I think it's important to say this because we both have our own jobs.

20:43 I have a YouTube channel, and Marcela now teaches French and is

20:47 creating and growing her own YouTube channel.

20:52 Exactly.

20:53 And we have a very good, very structured routine.

20:57 We wake up early, we work,

20:59 and we have a routine for health, gym, diet, and work.

21:03 I think it's important to say this because only this allows us

21:07 to have a lifestyle where we can travel and be in different places;

21:09 it's having a routine that we don't give up when we're working.

21:16 Exactly.

21:17 But this routine being so, how should I put it?

21:22 Planned and structured.

21:23 No, it's not structured; it's being so,

21:26 so precise with this routine that allows us to then

21:30 have the spontaneity to say yes to other plans.

21:34 Because our day-to-day life is controlled.

21:37 Yes, I agree.

21:38 And because in this routine we also have free time.

21:41 Exactly, and that's it, that's the point.

21:42 We plan, when we give ourselves tasks to do,

21:46 we purposely give ourselves fewer tasks,

21:48 that is, we assume that we give ourselves tasks for, I don't know,

21:56 3 or 4 hours of work,

21:57 because we already know that afterwards the work stretches on and so

21:59 on, but when it doesn't stretch on, we gain free time.

22:01 Exactly, exactly.

22:02 But then...

22:03 This forces us to better select what we do at work.

22:06 Exactly.

22:07 And not just...

22:07 Doing the important things.

22:08 Because I think yes, everything you said is exactly like that.

22:12 But when I say that we don't have a routine, I wasn't talking about that part,

22:17 I was thinking about the fact that, since we plan even our free time,

22:21 our free time ranges from dinners with friends to...

22:25 I don't know, a visit to the Oceanarium,

22:29 to traveling to a different city that we haven't yet visited.

22:33 Yes, many times free time is just sightseeing.

22:35 It's just sightseeing, but that, for our relationship, is very good.

22:40 Because it truly allows, to reiterate what we were saying,

22:45 that's what makes it possible, in just one year and two months,

22:51 We were already absolutely certain that we wanted

22:53 to be together for the rest of our lives.

22:55 Even if it was less time, yes.

22:57 Yes, I mean, the official proposal and everything.

23:00 But I think that's why, because we have this, right?

23:05 This life that's so good and...

23:08 very easy.

23:10 Very easy, yes.

23:13 So we were, we came back from Brazil in March of this year, then we were at...

23:17 It was my first Carnival in Brazil too, in São Paulo.

23:21 Then we were at...

23:23 Did you like it?

23:24 I liked it.

23:25 We went to the Polyglot Gathering at the beginning of June,

23:29 and after that we were in Greece.

23:31 And that's where I proposed.

23:34 To you.

23:34 And since then we've been to France and then

23:37 we came back and now we've been here in Portugal.

23:40 Exactly.

23:41 And that's it.

23:42 And from now on we're in a moment of enjoying the summer here too.

23:47 We work in the summer, we work because we want to, and right now we're working

23:52 quite a lot because in October we're going back to South America.

23:59 While our first trip was really about traveling and working at the same time,

24:05 now we intend to focus on what we need to do so

24:10 that this trip to South America will be more of a trip, a "vacation," in quotes.

24:17 Because that's important to say, right?

24:20 We joke that we're always on vacation, but we're also always working, right?

24:26 In other words, this nomadic life works very well for me.

24:31 I know it's not for everyone because it requires a certain

24:36 amount of planning so you don't get lost while traveling.

24:43 I think the word "planning" isn't really necessary because

24:46 our routine works because it's not a very difficult routine;

24:49 our routine is very simple.

24:51 The simpler the routine...

24:52 Because sometimes people think of routine as having

24:55 to do a morning routine of 10,000 things, having to do a thousand and one things

24:59 throughout the day for the day to be right.

25:01 No, our routine is to wake up,

25:04 have breakfast (I don't, you do), work for four hours.

25:10 What else?

25:11 Go to the gym, and if we only do four hours of work and go to the gym,

25:16 we already feel like we've won the day.

25:18 And so, having this very basic, very simple routine,

25:21 the rest of the time we can work if we feel like it,

25:25 or we can go see friends, or we can go for a walk.

25:29 Because sometimes when we talk about planning and routine,

25:32 the listener might get the idea that we have a super structured routine,

25:36 like, the whole day planned.

25:38 It's precisely the fact that there are only a few things,

25:41 two or three things that we do.

25:44 Yes, there's no...

25:45 Always.

25:45 We feel like we've won the day and then the rest is open.

25:49 It's open.

25:49 To do what?

25:51 To go for walks and learn languages,

25:54 because Leo is learning Greek now, by the way.

25:58 That's it.

25:59 And you?

25:59 Well, but the channel is yours, right?

26:02 Isn't the channel your podcast?

26:03 Can I talk a little about myself?

26:06 I'm learning English because my life is kind of strange.

26:15 I started by learning French, I mean, Spanish first.

26:21 I learned Spanish, then I learned French,

26:24 and modesty aside, I learned it very well.

26:27 I also lived in France for so long, you know?

26:32 And English fell a little behind, even though it's such a useful language.

26:37 It's the most useful language, exactly.

26:39 Especially now that we're traveling the world.

26:41 Exactly.

26:42 Marcela is realizing that it's a language she needs.

26:45 I need it, I need it.

26:46 I think you always avoided English.

26:48 Yes, because I always had this enormous affection

26:51 for French and always wanted to be improving,

26:54 always being very perfectionist, you know?

26:56 And I didn't leave time, I didn't leave myself space for English, you know?

27:02 And now...

27:04 This is the job.

27:04 And we go back to the beginning of the video,

27:06 which is that this passion for learning languages

27:09 ​​was also something that united us, and yes.

27:12 You know what that reminded me of?

27:14 What?

27:14 When we met, we had only talked through messages, like,

27:20 through the app, through Tinder, then we moved to WhatsApp, we started talking,

27:26 and Leo, well, Leo knew I was a French teacher,

27:31 but he didn't imagine that I actually had such a good level of French.

27:34 Marcela speaks with a 100% French accent, and the truth is...

27:39 And when you saw me, remember?

27:39 So, my experience meeting Brazilians who learn languages

27:41 ​​is that they usually have a strong Brazilian accent.

27:44 And that's what I expected.

27:46 So the first time I heard you speak French I was...

27:49 and I fell even more in love.

27:51 That's it, I think there were two things that night that made it so special.

27:56 For Leo, okay?

27:56 Not for me, for me there were other things, but for Leo.

28:00 It was the toast to grammar and the fact that I speak French so well.

28:05 He was, like, incredibly impressed.

28:07 And thank goodness, look, thank God, I can speak French.

28:14 Okay, and with that I think we can conclude this episode.

28:18 I hope you enjoyed listening to us talk about our lives since we met.

28:26 Once again, I remind you,

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28:34 to access the transcript of this and all podcast episodes, and until next time.

28:39 Bye, bye!