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0:00 Tom Pelisero here on the Rich Eisen Show, everybody.
0:02 Tommy P.
0:04 Oh, hoodie day.
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0:09 It just means you didn't do an NFL network hit where
0:12 this this is like one of my only weeks off per year from TV Rich.
0:16 So this quite frankly this is as dressed up as I have been uh since last Friday.
0:21 So okay, great to be with you.
0:22 Great to be with my boys in the studio.
0:24 What's up fellas?
0:24 Tom,
0:26 my mom is so happy.
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0:31 I don't know what she doesn't.
0:32 Every time he's on, she's like, "Tom,
0:35 hey, just like Norm walking in." Cheers.
0:38 There's Tom Pig.
0:39 Uh, all right.
0:42 So, uh, what's everybody talking about right now where they're hitting you
0:47 up or or is there less traffic on your phone right now?
0:50 What's everybody?
0:51 There's There is less,
0:53 which is again why this is one of the only weeks a year that I'm not on TV.
0:56 But you still have there are still plenty of uh outstanding items.
1:01 Um obviously the Aaron Rogers saga which does remain uh ongoing at this point.
1:08 You still have some loose ends in terms
1:10 of the AJ Brown situation and then you have
1:13 something that may come to a head and be
1:15 finalized even before this uh segment is over.
1:19 I would be anticipating good news on the officiating front.
1:27 The vote has now closed for the NFL referees association.
1:32 The people I have spoken to anticipate ratification of a new
1:36 labor deal which will ensure peace for years to come.
1:40 We'll keep the replacement officials off the field.
1:42 Again, nothing is finalized.
1:44 They have to have an auditor go through the votes.
1:47 Uh but fully anticipating we'll get uh good news on that front soon.
1:50 Okay.
1:50 So let's just assume we're getting good news on that front.
1:53 Tom Pelisero, let's just do that.
1:55 Our radio audience has returned.
1:56 Tom Pelisero just dropped on our TVonly portion that he believes
2:01 there's going to be a deal between the NFL and its officials.
2:05 So there will be labor peace there, which is awesome.
2:08 Um so let's just assume this deal gets ratified.
2:11 any changes that we should know about um in the way that uh officials are rated,
2:18 put out on the field, uh replay chiming in on uh some of their calls.
2:24 Is there anything in this CBA based on on that that you can drop for us here?
2:30 A big focus for the NFL was on expanding
2:34 the investment and in terms improving the quality of officiating.
2:39 One of the big sticking points um
2:42 and this goes back for years was this dark period.
2:45 Basically after the Super Bowl for multiple months into the spring,
2:49 they couldn't have any contact with their officials.
2:52 You couldn't do training sessions, you couldn't do film sessions.
2:55 You really couldn't do anything.
2:56 And that was all protecting um you know
2:58 the working hours as unions do uh for the officials.
3:01 I would anticipate based on what I know that that is going to change
3:04 that there's going to be expanded access to officials as part of a new deal.
3:09 The NFL has also pushed for and I believe will get
3:12 the ability to establish a bench of officials so that if you have,
3:16 let's say, underperforming officials,
3:19 you would have other people who are ready to be called up just like it is,
3:22 you know, with players and a practice squad
3:24 and the inactives who can go to the active list,
3:26 you potentially can have officials who can rise or fall uh within that.
3:31 And then the other part of it was,
3:32 you know, expanding their training programs into the off season.
3:36 Um, I know the union made a comment at one point about, you know,
3:39 interesting that they were going to put the replacement officials out there
3:41 in training camp when they no longer have us at training camps.
3:45 That also should change here, Rich.
3:47 Uh, they should be able to have officials out there,
3:50 you know, from joint practices to training camp to mini camp,
3:54 just more time on task, more reps, the same stuff that they were going to do
3:57 if they had to initiate um the replacement officials.
4:00 At this point, it appears that is going
4:03 to be necessary pending the final audit of the vote.
4:06 Um, but some significant changes basically just expanding
4:09 the amount of training they can give officials who are
4:12 also financially I fully anticipate are going to get
4:15 the best deal that NFL officials have ever gotten.
4:17 Okay, that's good news.
4:18 It really is because nobody wanted that.
4:20 Certainly, the league didn't want to put um, you know,
4:23 replacement officials out on the field in Australia
4:26 for the first game of the year internationally.
4:29 Rams and the ners and seeing all of that and and and also officials um you
4:35 know deserve what they what they can get and also um I I think they didn't
4:42 want to see maybe put into place let's just see how efficient the uh Art McN
4:48 ruling in chiming in on on actual calls
4:51 on a field um would be because that could
4:54 be pretty darn efficient at the end of the day Tom you And to go back
4:58 back to the March meeting that was approved
5:00 on a one-year basis contingent on replacement officials
5:04 that they would be able from the league office to change any call on the field
5:09 that was clearly and obviously wrong which would just
5:12 far expand um where replay has always cut off.
5:16 Um there is always been broad difference uh
5:18 from the competition committee to allowing the people who are
5:20 on the field to not have their judgment swapped out
5:24 for the judgment of someone who is not on the field.
5:26 this would have been a seismic shift.
5:29 Um, like many things that the NFL did and said over the past several months,
5:34 I'm sure that there is a leverage aspect to it of, hey,
5:37 if we don't get this deal done,
5:38 and this the current deal is set to expire on May 31st.
5:41 If we don't get this done,
5:43 you may come back to a completely different work environment where we are,
5:48 you know, overhauling everything around you.
5:50 There is still going to be some limited
5:52 expansion um of replay specifically for ejectable offenses.
5:57 Now the league office can eject players even
5:59 if a flag is not thrown on the field.
6:01 They also can for the first time put down a flag for an ejectable offense.
6:04 So both a flag and an ejection
6:06 for something that is completely missed on the field.
6:08 You think of situations like uh DK Metaf on the sideline.
6:12 Could that have been an example of it?
6:13 Certain hits that don't get flagged and then you see 10
6:16 different replay angles that just are missed because the game's so fast.
6:19 the league now would be able to insert themselves uh on those matters,
6:24 but it will not be the broad expansion,
6:25 the fix everything sky judge, which I would personally say,
6:29 and I know there are some people who've been campaigning for this forever.
6:32 There is no earthly way in, and I know we just released the UFO files today,
6:37 so maybe they'll find some,
6:38 but there's no earthly way to make that efficient in the in the near
6:43 term that you don't have enough of the highly qualified,
6:46 you know, sky judge type people to be doing that.
6:48 you would have a real questions about where the line is drawn,
6:53 where what is clear and obvious.
6:54 Is it the 100% call?
6:56 Is it the 95% call?
6:58 It's such a slippery slope.
6:59 I I personally hope the NFL doesn't go there.
7:02 Technology continues to improve.
7:03 The league will continue to do things incrementally.
7:05 Having the full-time, not full-time, but the real officials,
7:09 whatever you want to call them, on the field, not replacement officials,
7:14 it'll allow them to continue to move incrementally toward technology as opposed
7:17 to a broad experiment that would be virtually impossible to roll back.
7:20 Tom Pelisero here on the Rich Eisen Show.
7:22 Uh, a nice rarity, which is a Mother's Day week bonafide free agent signing.
7:28 Uh, Jawan Jennings, a one-year reportedly $13 million deal
7:32 to join the Minnesota Vikings right there in that town.
7:35 And that means Addison and Justin Jefferson and Jawan Jennings.
7:40 That is a nice trio of receivers for which starting quarterback, Tom?
7:47 Well, let's start with how Jawan Jennings fits into this.
7:50 No, I don't wish to start with that.
7:52 I won't te it immediately raises questions about, okay,
7:57 are they plan to move on from Jordan Addison?
8:00 Like, why would he come to Minnesota?
8:02 It's a one-year $8 million deal.
8:03 can earn up to 13 million with incentives.
8:05 He was the free agent left on the market other than
8:08 Aaron Rogers who was going to make the most money somewhere.
8:12 So the Vikings end up getting him at what can only
8:14 be called a cut rate at this stage in the offseason.
8:17 The vision, as I understand it,
8:19 is Jawan Jennings effectively will fill the Jaylen Naylor role.
8:22 He had a lot of productivity,
8:23 cashed in on a big deal with the Raiders in free agency.
8:26 It does not bear on Jordan or Justin Jefferson.
8:29 and they envision the three of those guys all being out there along with TJ
8:33 Hawinson um and having a really diverse
8:36 passing game for whichever quarterback ends up starting.
8:39 My understanding has been and I will continue to say this Rich,
8:42 we got OTAAS getting going in a couple weeks.
8:44 That'll tell us more about what the actual landscape of this is going to be,
8:48 but they envision it being a true competition.
8:50 Kyler Murray versus JJ McCarthy.
8:52 And both these guys are going to go
8:54 into this believing they're going to win this job.
8:57 You know, I don't know, frankly,
8:58 how friendly that quarterback room is going to be.
9:01 It is going to be a very competitive uh quarterback room.
9:04 They are two players that have some things
9:06 in common in terms of their skill set.
9:08 You know, nobody moves like Kyler, but JJ's got good mobility as you know.
9:11 Well, Rich, from watching him at at Michigan.
9:15 You've got um Sorry, my uh Siri thought I was saying something.
9:18 I was not.
9:19 What was that?
9:20 Kyler Murray.
9:21 That's that's what you wanted.
9:22 No, I was about to say is Siri trying giving you information.
9:26 Who the Maybe I had a message.
9:27 Yeah, that would be that would be the ultimate
9:29 AI if it starts sorting out quarterback competitions.
9:31 But Kyler comes in.
9:32 Listen, he hasn't played in this offense.
9:34 JJ's got two years in it.
9:35 It's been a roller coaster ride.
9:36 There's been some really good moments.
9:38 There's been some not so good moments and there have been a ton of injuries.
9:41 Kyler also has dealt with injuries in recent years, you know,
9:44 since the the torn ACL and then obviously last year
9:47 with the foot injury they never made it back from.
9:50 It's going to be interesting to watch these guys duke it out
9:52 because you've got JJ who's got at least a foundation in the offense.
9:55 You've got Kyler who has shown ability.
9:58 He's been to Pro Bowls.
9:59 He's been to the playoffs.
10:00 He's only 28 years old.
10:02 Um, this is to me is going to be
10:03 the most fascinating quarterback competition in the NFL.
10:06 And from everything that I have understood, it is truly wide open.
10:10 They're keeping an open mind as a coaching
10:11 staff and we'll see what direction it goes.
10:13 That was maybe maybe that was Nick Sriani chiming in.
10:17 Oh, what do you think?
10:18 What do you think?
10:19 All right.
10:20 Um, so Rogers, what what like we're talking money now, right?
10:25 Is that what it is?
10:26 Is it now money?
10:27 I mean, it can't be a scheme.
10:28 Can't be anything else other than,
10:31 you know, um 15's the base based on on the procedure
10:36 procedural maneuver the Steelers made right after the draft, right?
10:40 Is that what it is?
10:42 Is he there today?
10:42 Is he now?
10:43 Is he there now?
10:44 Right now.
10:46 First of all, Aaron Rogers is believed to be in Pittsburgh.
10:52 Okay.
10:53 There is no meeting scheduled.
10:54 There is not a visit to the facility scheduled.
10:57 No,
10:58 it does not sound from what I was told this morning
11:00 that there's even been communication right now in terms of like,
11:03 hey, you're going to pop over or something like none of that's happened.
11:06 There has been communication.
11:07 What's he there for?
11:08 Is he getting a penny brothers made of bark?
11:10 Is that what it is?
11:11 Bark
11:13 Rogers.
11:13 we're talking about.
11:14 I'm just trying to frame this for you as accurately
11:16 as I can because like everything with Aaron Rogers,
11:19 there could be many, many stops and starts to the point on money.
11:22 I do not believe based on what I know
11:24 that the contract is going to hold this up.
11:26 There has been communication between the Steelers and Rogers agent Dave Dunn.
11:29 That communication has been positive.
11:32 Uh they have talked numbers.
11:34 They don't have an agreement.
11:36 Aaron Rogers has made about $400 million in his career.
11:39 If he's making 15 or 20,
11:41 I don't think that that's going to have a great impact on his life.
11:46 If Aaron Rogers is coming back, it's not to make a few extra bucks.
11:49 It's to go and try to win a championship with a locker room that enjoyed
11:54 him last year with a head coach and Mike McCarthy who's new to Pittsburgh,
11:57 but knows Aaron Rogers as well as anybody, an offense he's hyper familiar with.
12:02 Aaron has to ultimately decide what he wants to do.
12:06 I believe that this all ends with Aaron Rogers being the Steelers quarterback.
12:11 I believe most likely it ends with Aaron Rogers
12:13 out there when OTAAS get going on May 18th.
12:16 Does that take place this weekend?
12:18 Does it take place next week?
12:20 It is Aaron Rodgers.
12:22 He is going to decide on his own terms, but not about money.
12:25 Not about, you know, you know, beating each other up over the contract.
12:29 This is just about Aaron making a full and final decision, a commitment.
12:33 I'm coming.
12:34 I'm gonna be the Steelers quarterback.
12:36 He can walk in the door in three minutes for all we know, Rich.
12:39 But right now, no meeting is set and we continue to wait.
12:43 Okay.
12:44 Uh what else is there then?
12:45 What's on what's in your reporter's notebook
12:47 or people blowing you up about this team?
12:49 We're not talking about that team enough.
12:51 Anything like that?
12:52 Any as we're waiting for the schedule?
12:54 Could it be schedule related?
12:56 You got anything for me there, Tom?
12:57 I think we're really into now that you know the draft is settled.
13:00 All the free agent movement in essence has settled.
13:03 There are some big names that are still sitting out there,
13:05 you know, in free agency.
13:07 Digs, right?
13:07 Diggs sitting out there.
13:09 Diggs, you know, Tyreek,
13:10 we don't know if he's going to be ready to play in 2026,
13:12 but he's still a free agent.
13:13 Debo is still a free agent.
13:15 Keenan Allen is still a free agent.
13:17 There's a bunch of running backs.
13:18 Um, you know, Naji and Eckler both coming off of significant types of injuries.
13:23 There's a bunch of pass rushers, Von Miller, Cam Jordan.
13:26 So, all those guys, you're at that stage where
13:28 you're not making the money that you used to.
13:30 And you're going to have to make a decision.
13:32 Do you want to play?
13:33 If so, what matters to you?
13:35 Do you want to take the most money?
13:36 Do you want to go to the right spot?
13:37 Do you want to go back to the team you've always been with?
13:39 Do you want to try something new?
13:41 Those can be anytime in the next four months here, Rich.
13:44 And we'll see exactly what those directions go.
13:46 But at this point, now you start to get into, all right,
13:48 we now know who's on what team.
13:49 There's no more speculating about the draft.
13:51 No more speculating other than Rogers about what quarterback is going where.
13:55 Uh, it's competition time.
13:57 Um, you I don't think that there's one at all in Los Angeles.
14:00 The full anticipation as Tai Simpson waits uh behind Matthew Stafford,
14:04 but we'll certainly await Stafford's contract getting done
14:06 as well as what he has to say on the subject of the Tai Simpson draft
14:09 pick uh whenever that ends up taking place.
14:13 Um, you've got Las Vegas obviously with Fernando Mendoza there.
14:16 We know what Clint Kubak has said um
14:19 that he would like to have a veteran starting quarterback,
14:21 but there's going to be competition on some level.
14:23 If Kirk Cousins goes and stinks it up in the preseason,
14:26 I don't think they're just going to default to Kirk has to be the quarterback,
14:29 but they are believers in um you want to give Fernando time,
14:32 especially when he's making this um significant transition out there,
14:36 you know, in Arizona, barring some wild scenario where Aaron Rogers all
14:40 of a sudden ends up in the Cardinals uniform, which I don't anticipate.
14:43 You know, you're gonna have Jacobe Brassette,
14:45 who from my understanding is still the clear QB1,
14:47 but he's got Gardenner Mchu there.
14:49 He's got a guy in Carson Beck there that was the first pick
14:51 in the third round and has won a ton of football games at the college level.
14:56 Um, that to me is going to be a really interesting competition.
14:59 Obviously, if Aaron doesn't come back,
15:00 which all indications are that he will, but if he doesn't come back,
15:03 then in Pittsburgh it'll be Will Howard
15:06 and Drew Aller and Mason Rudolph going at it.
15:09 This is the to me this is the fun time
15:11 of year Rich because now again all the speculation that we've had.
15:15 Let's actually see the guys on the field.
15:16 Let's actually see how these things um begin to play out
15:19 and then there's you know veteran competitions as well in places like
15:22 Minnesota and Cleveland where I know that you know everyone has
15:25 been saying that Deshun Watson's a top the totem pole it's May.
15:29 Let's see where we are uh come August.
15:31 Um you know this is again this is the part of the calendar where you
15:34 start to all right get past the theoretical
15:36 phase and see what happens in reality.
15:37 All right, Tom, you go back.
15:39 You go do your thing, man.
15:41 You know, like you you you're you're you tapped out of Tom Pelisero the civilian
15:47 to to throw your hoodie on and get your hair ready and and join us.
15:51 And I appreciate that.
15:52 I'm wearing a tuxedo next week just for you, Rich.
15:55 We're We're dressing.
15:56 If you do it, I'll What do you call a Canadian tuxedo?
15:59 What is that?
15:59 Canadian tuxedo is I can do the Canadian tuxedo, too.
16:02 That all denim.
16:03 All right, we can go and make that happen.
16:05 You going any t any of the T-Wolf games or no?
16:08 No.
16:09 Uh, not as of now.
16:10 We'll see.
16:11 My kids continue to bug me about it,
16:13 but those those 8:30 central starts that are actually 8:57 central starts.
16:18 Little rough.
16:18 Little rough on the kids.
16:20 Okay, I got it.
16:20 Uh, have a great Mother's Day with your lovely wife, sir.
16:23 Enjoy it.
16:24 Same to you, Rich.
16:25 Thank you.
16:25 That's Tom, brother.
16:26 That's Tom Pelisero, everybody, right here on the Rich Eisen Show.