LIVE from the Canadian Club in Toronto: A real plan for an affordable & autonomous Canada
Pierre Poilievre
0:00 a great Albertan and a wonderful Canadian,
0:02 and if you have any doubt that she's an Albertan,
0:05 her husband is a former rodeo rider.
0:07 And he's right there taking autographs, making autographs afterwards.
0:10 It's an honor to have you here, Rona,
0:12 and it brings back memories of a better time,
0:15 a time when our country was affordable and autonomous,
0:18 and when we were able to stand on our own two feet as an economy.
0:23 In fact, that is really the the theme of my speech today.
0:28 Uh we are here today gathering at a time uh
0:32 a time when we're in need of both optimism and realism.
0:38 In fact, it has been said that optimism without realism is a fantasy.
0:48 Realism without optimism is surrender.
0:53 I ask today that we do both of these things.
0:57 We bring forward optimism for what our country can be,
1:01 and realism about where we are today.
1:04 The good news is that Canada should be the richest,
1:09 most affordable, and autonomous country anywhere on Earth.
1:12 Those are the three We have more resources per
1:30 person than any country in the history of the world.
1:34 It should be laughably cheap to buy a house,
1:38 to heat that house, and to drive a car off its lot.
1:42 Food prices should be so affordable that price is an afterthought when
1:45 you walk down the grocery aisle with all the farmland we have.
1:49 Our mission should therefore to be to be make
1:52 Canada affordable and safe at home and unbreakable abroad.
1:55 That is our potential.
1:58 Now, let's look at our present day reality.
2:04 On electricity, we have the world's third largest supply of uranium,
2:09 the most rivers to power power hydro,
2:11 the cheapest natural gas anywhere on Earth to power stations.
2:16 And yet, this year, for the first time ever,
2:21 Canada is unable to produce enough electricity to supply itself.
2:27 We have the fourth most oil anywhere on Earth,
2:29 and yet we are now importing from Saudi Arabia and Nigeria.
2:33 We have the most oil in the G7,
2:34 and we are the only G7 country without an oil reserve.
2:39 We have the most land, but we have 10 times more land per person to live
2:44 on, and yet we have the fewest homes per capita in the G7.
2:50 We have the third most farmland per capita in the world,
2:53 and yet 2.2 million people line up at food banks every month.
2:57 That is a 100% increase over the last 7 years,
3:00 and the bad news, I'm afraid, continues.
3:04 Under Mark Carney, Canada has the highest household debt in the G7,
3:07 the most unaffordable housing in the G7,
3:09 the lowest investment per worker in the G7,
3:11 the worst food price inflation in the G7,
3:14 the second lowest productivity in the G7,
3:17 and the second highest unemployment in the G7.
3:21 An outflow of a half trillion dollars of investment has
3:24 left our country under the Liberals for the United States.
3:27 Twice as much investment has left Canada in the last 10 years than has returned,
3:32 according to an RBC report released just 2 days ago.
3:35 And twice as many Canadians are opening
3:38 businesses in the United States as in Canada.
3:43 Let that sink in.
3:45 Twice as many Canadians are opening businesses
3:49 in the United States than in Canada.
3:51 And we got a solution to this problem at the Liberal convention.
3:55 They want to put a half million dollar
3:56 exit tax on anyone threatening to leave the country.
4:00 Any country that feels it must punish people
4:04 for fleeing is not a place of hope and optimism.
4:07 The Canadian Federation of Independent Business wrote
4:09 this week that after a year of Mark Carney,
4:12 quote, more businesses have been closing than opening in Canada.
4:16 It's time to admit it.
4:17 We're in an We're in an entrepreneurial drought.
4:21 High costs, red tape, labor challenges,
4:23 and never-ending uncertainty discouraging the next
4:25 generation of entrepreneurs stands in the way.
4:28 More businesses in Canada have closed than opened for six consecutive quarters.
4:33 More than half of small business owners say
4:36 they would not recommend starting a business right now.
4:40 In the second quarter of 2025,
4:42 exit rates reached 5.6% while entry rates fell to 4.8% in Q4 2025,
4:50 marking some of the highest closure rates
4:52 and weakest startup activity outside of the pandemic.
4:55 High costs, taxes, payroll pressures, complex rules,
4:59 and ongoing labor challenges again also against a backdrop of persistent
5:03 global uncertainty all make entrepreneurship more difficult and less attractive.
5:08 Canada's economic foundations, and I'm quoting here, are crumbling.
5:12 Governments need to stop papering over the cracks and really
5:15 focus efforts on policies that improve small business environment.
5:20 We cannot afford to regulate ambition out of our country when more than half
5:25 of small business owners are telling us
5:27 that they wouldn't recommend starting a business, it is time to listen.
5:30 End quote.
5:32 Under these numbers are real lives.
5:36 Canada's happiness ranking on the global happiness index has gone
5:42 from fifth in the world 10 years ago to 18th last year,
5:48 and now we have risen to 25th under Mark Carney.
5:53 What's worse is that among youth, we rank 71st.
5:59 There are 70 countries in the world
6:01 where young people are happier than young Canadians.
6:03 And we're not just behind the United States, the United Kingdom,
6:05 and Australia, but we're now behind Kazakhstan, Vietnam, and Moldova.
6:13 Young people in Kazakhstan are happier than young people in Canada.
6:18 Something bad is happening here, and it's only getting worse.
6:20 Now, we can take the comforting tranquilizer
6:25 of blaming global factors for these problems.
6:30 But all the other countries that we're falling behind face those same factors.
6:35 They all face tariffs, they face COVID, wars in Ukraine and Iran.
6:40 Why is it that we're doing so much worse than all those other countries?
6:44 Why is it that our economy is crumbling only here under this Liberal government?
6:50 Now, it's also comforting a comforting illusion to say
6:53 that these are the problems created by the earlier Liberal government,
6:58 but that they've learned and changed.
7:01 That's what Mr.
7:02 Carney promised in the last election.
7:04 He promised that he would backtrack on everything he had said and written
7:09 for 10 years and everything that his party had done in the previous decade.
7:14 So, what has changed?
7:17 Really?
7:18 Strip away the adjustments for style,
7:20 image, ignore the speeches and the promises.
7:23 What has really changed?
7:25 If you asked a neutral and objective AI bot to go
7:30 into all of the policies on the books of the government of Canada,
7:35 what would you find has actually changed in the last year?
7:38 Deficits and spending are both higher, a lot higher.
7:42 Taxes, they're both the same.
7:44 Laws passed by Trudeau to block resource development and free criminals,
7:49 all of them are still on the books.
7:51 Those are the facts.
7:52 Everything else is an illusion.
7:54 Speaking of illusions, let us go through Mr.
7:56 Carney's words and promises one by one.
7:59 He promised to spend less and invest more.
8:03 He since doubled the deficit.
8:05 He's increased federal spending by 7% above levels he inherited from Trudeau.
8:10 Outside of COVID, government spending is a as a share
8:14 of GDP higher than it's been since 1996,
8:18 and the deficit is the biggest in our country's history.
8:21 He has stacked 90 billion dollars of net new
8:26 spending above and beyond the spending Trudeau had already budget.
8:30 This is net of promised savings, most of which are not yet realized.
8:35 And by the way, 2/3 of the new spending is on operations,
8:39 not the famous capital expenditure we were promised.
8:43 There's been no tax reform if other than to change
8:46 the name of the carbon tax to the clean fuel standard.
8:50 Mark Carney promised to cut red tape and remove barriers.
8:52 He has not removed a single Trudeau era anti-development law,
8:57 but he has stacked new laws on top of old ones.
9:00 He's not removed a single government department, agency,
9:03 or Crown corporation, but he's created 12 new ones.
9:07 He solemnly promised that because we are in an existential crisis,
9:11 we would needed to use to move at speeds
9:13 not seen in generations at an unmeasurable scale.
9:16 So, last June, I instructed our parliamentary team to help him
9:21 pass in 5 days unprecedented legal powers to fast-track new projects.
9:27 Get them going immediately.
9:28 There's no time to waste.
9:31 How many projects has he approved since June with those new powers?
9:35 Zero.
9:36 Not one.
9:38 Not one single new major project, not one oil pipeline, not one port, nothing.
9:44 And speaking of pipelines, that great symbol of our national sovereignty,
9:47 after a year of Mark Carney's unprecedented speeds,
9:50 the proposed pipeline to the Pacific has no permit,
9:55 no route, no proponent, no timeline to start or to finish.
10:02 In fact, the only company that could conceivably build it, Enbridge,
10:06 one of our sponsors today, has said that liberal laws and taxes that Mr.
10:11 Carney has kept in place make it impossible
10:14 to produce enough oil to put in that prospective pipeline.
10:17 And Mr.
10:18 Carney says he will never approve the pipeline unless
10:21 Alberta builds a $20 billion carbon capture and storage project,
10:25 a project that has never been done anywhere
10:27 in the world and that, based on the most rosy scenarios,
10:32 will lose money forever after $20 billion of expenditures to build it,
10:37 if it can ever be built at all.
10:40 By the way, there's no proponents to build that, either.
10:42 The only thing this we're seeing here is an illusion.
10:46 And the only thing real is the cost.
10:49 Then there's the famous Davos speech about the need for a middle power alliance.
10:54 While it had many prep cloud proud um cloud uh cloud-pleasing lines in it,
11:00 the rhetoric was short of details.
11:03 What does it amount to in reality?
11:05 Middle powers.
11:06 It's been a year.
11:08 Mr.
11:08 Carney has not negotiated a single new free trade
11:12 agreement anywhere in the world in the last year.
11:16 There have been dozens of unenforceable MOUs that say
11:22 in the text they have no legal weight.
11:25 But there has not been a single new trade agreement of any kind.
11:29 The rhetoric simply doesn't match the results.
11:31 And illusions are not reality.
11:32 Lofty summit speeches, meaningless MOUs,
11:35 symbolic signing ceremonies do not pay your mortgage,
11:38 gas your tank, or fill your grocery cart here at home.
11:41 They do not grow the economy, make us ungre- uh un- uh breakable abroad.
11:47 So, what is really going on here?
11:49 How can Mark Carney talk such a big game abroad while
11:52 doing so little to fix the real problems here at home?
11:55 And why does it feel so much like
11:57 it's all announcements and statements rather than results?
12:03 At the most basic level, Mr.
12:05 Carney is and always has been a big government liberal.
12:11 He believes in the same top-down government-run economy
12:13 that concentrates money and power in the hands
12:15 of a small group of political authorities
12:17 for the benefit of corporate insiders like him.
12:20 The theory they have, it's trickle-down economics,
12:22 is that a group of credentialed central planners can spend your money,
12:25 take from one industry and give to another, and decide who gets what.
12:30 It's the same liberal approach that doubled our debt
12:33 and drove up the cost of living over the last decade.
12:35 Nothing has changed.
12:36 And the problem is that when politicians decide who gets what,
12:42 those with the most power end up getting it all.
12:46 And everyone else gets the bill.
12:49 The well-lobbied for corporate insiders fill their pockets with tens
12:52 of billions of dollars of projects that go over budget,
12:55 over schedule, and often belly up.
12:58 Governments block competitors from taking on political favorites,
13:03 and they redirect resources
13:04 from money-making businesses to money-losing businesses.
13:08 Take the Alto Rail project as the worst example.
13:12 It's a project whose whose proponents say it will
13:16 cost $90 billion to build $8,000 per family in Canada,
13:20 after which it will continue losing a billion dollars a year forever.
13:26 All of this, by the way, not to take cars off roads,
13:29 but to take passengers out of airplanes.
13:32 So, we're going to take people out of a faster,
13:34 money-making mode of transportation to put them
13:38 in a slower and money-losing mode of transportation.
13:43 According to According to McGill University,
13:47 uh that project will never make money and will
13:50 never be able to pay back the original governmental investment.
13:53 Furthermore, if you look at the real result,
13:57 it will be that insiders will get the contracts and the lobbying benefits.
14:02 The project will not even be completed for the next 12 years,
14:05 during which time Canadians will pay taxes
14:08 for consultants and insiders to receive more and more.
14:11 Every time we prop up money money-losing projects like this, Canada gets
14:15 poorer while a small group of insiders get rich off the grease.
14:18 And Canada is plunged into a cycle
14:19 of bad policy to compensate the original bad decision.
14:24 This is how it works.
14:26 To pay the cost of a bad investment,
14:27 the government raises taxes, further slowing economic growth.
14:30 So, it begins printing money.
14:32 And as money outgrows the stuff it buys, prices rise, inflation grows.
14:35 Mark Carney not only supports this agenda, he is its global symbol.
14:40 It's the policy he pursued as a central banker
14:43 and then as Mark as Justin Trudeau's economic advisor.
14:47 And now that he is prime minister, he's doing it all over again.
14:51 And none of this is to despair or disparage Mr.
14:53 Carney, who's a perfectly fine gentleman.
14:56 It's just to point out, and with the greatest respect, that Mr.
15:01 Carney has been wrong about every major economic issue of the last decade.
15:06 When he was the head of the Bank of England, he printed money,
15:09 leaving that that country with the worst inflation in the G7
15:14 and a housing crisis that deprived
15:15 an entire generation of youth of homeownership.
15:18 He wrongly predicted that COVID would cause deflation, that prices would drop.
15:23 And the result was that he advised
15:25 governments to print copious amounts of money,
15:27 giving us the worst inflation in 40 years.
15:32 And all through 2020, while I was warning that inflation would result
15:36 from this spending and printing, what did Mr.
15:38 Carney say?
15:40 In a 20 December 2020 interview,
15:43 well after the realities of COVID were very well known,
15:46 he said, "Do I worry about inflation?
15:48 Look, in the horizon of a normal central banker, two or three years,
15:52 the horizon of for monetary policy,
15:55 it is unlikely to materialize to a serious extent." End quote.
15:59 Two years later, on schedule, we had the worst inflation in 40 years.
16:06 I say this because he's doing the same thing all over again.
16:09 He also wrongly opposed the Enbridge pipeline to the Pacific.
16:14 He wrongly argued that in his book that we
16:15 should keep half of our oil in the ground.
16:17 He founded the Glasgow Financial Alliance of Net Zero,
16:20 a global coalition whose stated purpose was
16:22 to financially starve off the oil and gas sector,
16:24 which employs hundreds of thousands of people in Canada.
16:27 That alliance attracted enormous attention and considerable prestige,
16:30 and then it collapsed.
16:32 Its members fled, and the alliance dissolved.
16:35 And sure enough, he was gone before the bill came.
16:39 He was wrong to enthusiastically support carbon taxes and EV mandates.
16:45 Then he became prime minister, claiming that he had changed his mind
16:47 on those things before bringing them back under different names.
16:49 Now, his defenders will call them
16:52 these decisions and these reversals pragmatism.
16:55 But in reality, it is an illusion.
16:58 As the London Telegraph wrote, "The years Carney spent running the Bank
17:01 of England were characterized by stagnant growth,
17:03 stalled living standards, and declining productivity.
17:06 While there are many explanations for the for that, the rockstar governor
17:11 clearly did not did nothing to improve the performance of the British economy.
17:17 By the time he had left office,
17:19 Carney had created a mess which his successors have struggled to clear up.
17:23 Inflation spiked to 11% in the UK compared to 5% in France and 8% in Italy.
17:31 All because the bank princh printed far too much money.
17:35 The gap between Mr.
17:36 Carney's boasting and his results is perhaps unprecedented.
17:42 As Daniel Boorstin said, "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance,
17:47 it is the illusion of knowledge." And he's
17:50 doing it all over again here in Canada.
17:53 What all Mr.
17:53 Carney's policies have in common is that they drive
17:56 costs up and wages down for the working class people,
17:59 and they drive wealth into the hands
18:01 of a small group of well-connected political elites through subsidies,
18:04 grants, and other payouts.
18:07 And here's the point, my friends.
18:09 After a year of Mark Carney, the economy is poorer,
18:13 weaker, and more expensive than ever before.
18:16 Tout le monde est politique de Mark Carney on shows en commun.
18:19 C'est politique font augmenter le coût de la
18:21 vie et font baisser les salaires de nos travailleurs.
18:24 Tout ça pendant qu'une certaine élite font prof-
18:27 profitent avec le baisse coopérative et les subventions.
18:31 En même temps, après une année libéraux,
18:35 on voit que notre économie était en déclin.
18:37 Le coût de la vie augmente plus rapidement
18:40 et les gens ne peuvent plus payer leurs factures.
18:42 His plan in government has been to repeat the same top-down,
18:45 insider-driven policies of centralizing control.
18:49 Instead of fixing the many boo- boondoggles left behind by Trudeau,
18:52 he has compounded and layered on top of them.
18:55 We in Canada believe that there is a better way.
18:58 But consider the paradox.
19:00 Mr.
19:00 Carney keeps in place laws that block resource development.
19:04 Then he creates new laws to go around the old laws.
19:07 He puts in a heavy carbon tax on the steel sector,
19:11 and then he subsidizes the steel sector.
19:13 He keeps taxing home building,
19:15 and then he subsidizes home building with a brand new agency.
19:18 He keeps high taxes on business and investment,
19:21 and then he subsidizes business and investment.
19:25 It might seem like a contradiction.
19:27 Fact, you might reflect on the words of Ronald Reagan when he said,
19:30 "When a liberal sees something that moves, he taxes it.
19:32 If it keeps moving, he regulates it.
19:35 When it stops moving, he subsidizes it." Why not just get out of the way?
19:40 Ultimately, that would mean no role for the government and the people in power,
19:44 no need to bow before Caesar,
19:47 sign another application form, or get in line for approval.
19:50 What we need is leadership with humility to get out of the way
19:55 of government and get out of the way of economic activity and prosperity.
20:00 [applause] [applause] And that is the conservative approach.
20:08 The answer is clear.
20:09 We want Canada to be a free market economy to unleash the genius and work
20:13 ethic of the common people to build
20:15 affordable abundant lives filled with home ownership, family, nutritious food,
20:19 a nation that stands on its own two feet and bows before no other.
20:23 To be an affordable strong country here at home and unbreakable abroad.
20:28 And at the same time to have both economic autonomy and free enterprise.
20:34 These are not contradictions.
20:36 So often we think the only way to become
20:38 self-reliant is for government to get involved and run things.
20:41 In reality, if we want to become more abundant and self-reliant,
20:45 we need to unleash the free enterprise system,
20:47 which is the greatest system in the history of the world
20:50 to to benefit the material situation of working people.
20:55 Now, the work has to be concrete.
20:57 And our approach and our pillars are fourfold.
21:01 Affordable abundant energy, low inflation and taxes,
21:05 free market competition, national self-reliance.
21:26 The first of these pillars is affordable energy,
21:28 which is the key to defeating poverty and powering our economy.
21:33 Energy is not a luxury.
21:35 It is the flow-through price of every single thing we buy.
21:39 It heats our homes, runs our businesses, powers our farms,
21:42 delivers all of the goods that we bring through
21:45 the veins of our country that we call highways, railways, and power lines.
21:50 When it is abundant, it is a cheap to buy and it is affordable for the people.
21:55 Everything else becomes abundant when energy is abundant.
21:58 And that is why conservatives propose to get rid of all
22:00 taxes on gas at least for the rest of the year so
22:03 that we can make it affordable for people to get to work
22:06 and we can power the transportation of our goods and services.
22:10 We also understand that in order to have abundant energy,
22:14 you ultimately need to have that energy come above the ground.
22:19 We need to be able to to to power the farmer who who who harvests in our fields.
22:24 We need to be able to power the factories
22:26 that deliver the goods where we need them to go.
22:29 And we need in in order for that to happen,
22:32 we need a change in our entire legal system to make it possible.
22:36 And so that moves me to the issue of the second pillar, which is strong money.
22:42 Governments that print money destroys value.
22:45 Governments that control their money supply and ensure
22:48 it only grows at the the rate
22:50 of the output in the country allow it to to retain value.
22:53 Money is simply a technology to move value over space and time.
22:58 And when we keep inflation low,
22:59 we reward earnings and savings and that is the way
23:02 that you protect and grow the purchasing power of your people.
23:06 We know how to do it.
23:07 The Swiss are the model.
23:09 The Swiss have had almost no inflation for 25
23:11 years including during COVID where it it peaked around 3%.
23:15 Why?
23:16 Because they do not print money to spend it.
23:18 They protect the purchasing power of the franc,
23:20 which by the way is the greatest currency on Earth.
23:23 They they they did this by avoiding out
23:25 of control deficits and returning quickly to balanced budgets.
23:28 A future conservative government will do what we did in the Harper era.
23:32 We will balance budgets, we will keep spending low,
23:35 and we will keep our money strong.
23:37 We will [applause] We will cut back the $26 billion spent on consultants.
23:47 On we will cut back foreign aid, corporate welfare, handouts to false refugees.
23:52 We'll get rid of the Alto rail projects
23:54 and similar other projects and bring in a dollar
23:56 for dollar law that requires we find $1
23:58 of savings for every new dollar of spending.
24:01 That brings us to our next pillar, free enterprise.
24:04 Canada was not built by bureaucrats
24:06 and politicians in control rooms pushing buttons,
24:08 turning knobs, pulling strings to quote run the economy.
24:12 It grew because we freed our farmers,
24:15 workers, entrepreneurs, investors to make their own decisions.
24:18 Conservatives will cut corporate welfare,
24:21 the grants, subsidies, and loan guarantees,
24:23 and use the savings to lower taxes on all businesses.
24:27 You will no longer have to fill out an application
24:29 form in order to be a success in life.
24:31 Instead, you will reinvest your money here
24:34 in Canada with no capital gains tax whatsoever.
24:38 Taking [applause] Making it making it capital gains tax free to reinvest will
24:46 be a a form of economic rocket fuel for our country.
24:49 We'll take the sales tax off all homes that are sold for under $1.3
24:53 million anywhere in Canada and we will
24:56 incentivize our municipalities to speed up permits,
24:58 free up land, and cut development charges.
25:00 We will cut taxes on work, investment, home building, and energy.
25:04 And we will also ensure that you as businesses do
25:08 not have to interact with government in order to succeed.
25:11 The question you have to ask is do you want an economy based on carve-outs,
25:14 handouts, and bailouts or hard work and competition?
25:17 Do you want business to make money
25:19 by having the best lobbyist or the best product?
25:22 You want business to profit by having
25:25 a chance to please politicians or by pleasing customers?
25:29 Do you want a political marketplace where corporations
25:33 compete for wealth through power or a free
25:36 marketplace where they compete for customers
25:39 with lower prices and workers with better wages?
25:44 In short, do we want a political aristocracy or do we want economic meritocracy?
25:50 I know which one I want.
25:52 But we also need self-reliance because we cannot rely on the rest
25:54 of the world in this increasingly difficult and unpredictable time.
25:59 And that is why I've bundled our policies in this respect
26:01 into the Canadian Sovereignty Act designed to repatriate production
26:05 to our country and make Canada a magnet of economic
26:08 activity so that we are always able to provide for ourselves.
26:12 To be clear, we want to bring production to our country that makes us richer,
26:16 not money-losing projects that constantly need to be propped up.
26:20 That is the fundamental difference between
26:22 the current liberal approach and ours.
26:24 For example, while I said we don't want the Alto project,
26:27 we do want LNG projects.
26:28 These are money makers.
26:30 We can be selling natural gas for $11 overseas
26:35 that it costs us $3 to produce here in Canada.
26:38 That's why the single biggest infrastructure
26:40 project in Canadian history approved by Mr.
26:42 Harper, the LNG Canada Northern British Columbia project,
26:45 required no government subsidy and yet generated for $40 of investment.
26:51 We are going to get out of the way and let more of these projects happen.
26:53 Conservatives will repeal Bill C-69,
26:56 the anti-development law, remove the ban on shipping,
26:59 get rid of the industrial carbon tax to bring back production of steel,
27:02 aluminum, fertilizer, concrete, cement, gas, and oil.
27:06 Within the first 2 years in government,
27:08 we will reduce the paper burden of the federal state by 25% and pass
27:13 a two-for-one law requiring that every time
27:15 a department brings in one new regulation,
27:17 it will have to get rid of two existing ones,
27:19 all of which will have to be verified by the Auditor General.
27:23 We'll go from having the second slowest building
27:25 permits in in the OECD to the fastest.
27:28 We'll approve mines in 6 months, not 18 years.
27:31 We'll have one project,
27:33 one approval as a rule as we did in the Harper era allowing to us to approve
27:37 with a one-page document 23,500 projects from concept to completion
27:45 in under 2 years without a single environmental problem.
27:50 My friends, it can be done if we allow government
27:53 to get out of the way and allow builders to build.
27:56 We will aim to to approve roughly a dozen wildly profitable
28:00 LNG projects and not just will we will we produce it,
28:05 we will make sure we have strategic control over it.
28:08 I will initiate a plan for a strategic energy and mineral
28:11 reserve where our energy and our minerals that are necessary for warfare
28:17 and security will be stored at key locations across our country
28:22 and kept on reserve for the time when they are most needed.
28:25 Imagine, for example,
28:26 if we had two two 200 million barrels of oil in storage
28:31 when the prices spiked after the closing of the Strait of Hormuz.
28:35 We could profit while reducing global prices
28:38 and increasing our diplomatic leverage around the world.
28:41 We have 10 of the 12 NATO-defined critical minerals,
28:45 some of the most important to wage a war.
28:48 We should be using this, by the way,
28:50 as leverage in the United with the United States of America.
28:53 They understand that they need these minerals
28:56 and many of which they do not have them.
28:57 If we had them on reserve and made an agreement to guarantee their supply
29:02 in the event of a global crisis
29:04 to those countries that give us tariff-free access,
29:07 all of a sudden we would have massive power
29:11 in the forthcoming negotiation renewal and negotiations of Cosma.
29:17 And that is how we're going to get through these negotiations
29:19 properly by building up our leverage and converting it into our objectives,
29:24 which should be clear,
29:24 a tariff-free trade agreement with the United States of America,
29:28 the biggest market anywhere on on Earth.
29:31 We need to end the tariffs.
29:33 Yes, we do.
29:36 [applause] We need to end the tariffs on steel, aluminum, autos, and lumber.
29:42 We need a tariff-free tariff-free pact
29:45 with the United States on automobile capabilities
29:49 and supply chains and we need to do it by limiting Chinese vehicles.
29:53 We will make it clear to the Americans that if
29:55 they let our vehicles in, we will keep Chinese vehicles out.
29:59 We need a full exemption to buy America so that we can supply
30:03 the US military and government and and state
30:05 level administrations as well and we
30:07 need to relaunch even if we have to rename the Keystone pipeline
30:12 to move another 800,000 barrels of oil oil down to the US Gulf Coast.
30:17 And we have learned that the Americans they might
30:20 have hit us with these tariffs in the past,
30:24 but they just got a lot worse on April the 2nd.
30:26 In a in a whole spate of new tariffs that very few people even talked about.
30:31 We've seen the American administration now expand aluminum and steel
30:37 tariffs to apply to unrelated products that are in similar components.
30:44 And just today I was on the phone with businesses out of out of Windsor
30:49 who are going to be hit by a billion dollars in that city alone.
30:53 The tariffs from the United States are actually getting much worse.
30:57 There is an urgency for the Prime Minister to finally get moving
31:01 and deliver the deal that he ran on and promised in the last election.
31:05 There's no more time to waste, no more jobs we can afford to lose.
31:10 Finally, we've already seen how Mr.
31:13 Carney was wrong about every major economic issue of the last decade.
31:17 But he's wrong again about something else and perhaps even more dangerous.
31:21 He's wrong to suggest that we can have
31:23 a permanent rupture with our biggest customer and closest
31:28 neighbor in favor of a strategic partnership
31:30 for a new world order with the regime in Beijing.
31:34 A regime the Prime Minister said himself
31:36 a year ago was the biggest threat to Canada.
31:40 Let's get real.
31:41 We sell 20 times more to the United States than we sell to China.
31:47 That ratio might change a little bit.
31:50 It might moderate.
31:51 But at a fundamental level, they will always be our biggest customer.
31:55 We need a tariff-free deal.
31:57 We need to get these obstacles out of the way.
31:59 And removing obstacles is really the theme of the speech,
32:02 unleashing our potential.
32:04 Antoine de Saint-Exupéry said that perfection is not achieved when there's
32:08 nothing left to add but when there's nothing left to remove.
32:12 And when we remove the obstacles, burdens,
32:15 and entanglements of the last 11 years of Liberal government,
32:17 we will add so much more to our economy.
32:20 We will liberate the energy and brilliance of our workers,
32:22 entrepreneurs, inventors, and creators.
32:25 When they are free to exchange, build, invest, undertake,
32:29 they will make themselves and all of us richer.
32:32 There is a Canada that lives in the heart of every man and woman
32:35 who has ever arrived at the shores
32:37 with nothing but calloused hands and unbreakable will.
32:40 A Canada that lives in the memory of every family that cleared a field,
32:43 dug a well, or built a business from the ground up.
32:47 Not because someone in Ottawa told them to do it,
32:50 not because the government paid them to do it,
32:52 but because they were free to do it.
32:55 That Canada is not just a memory, it is a promise.
32:59 Imagine, if you will, a Canada like that.
33:02 A Canada that is in our reach.
33:04 A land where young tradesmen and women can afford the homes they built.
33:09 Where a mother can fill her grocery cart without choosing to forego her rent.
33:14 Where a family that has worked and saved can breathe freely,
33:18 not gasping beneath the weight of tax upon tax upon tax.
33:21 Where an entrepreneur can wake up in the morning
33:23 with an idea and by nightfall get it off the ground.
33:26 Where our reserves of oil and gas our forest timber
33:30 and veins of mineral wealth flow not into the coffers of foreign
33:35 governments because we have tied our own hands but into the prosperity
33:40 of Canadians and our people because we have unshackled them.
33:44 There are no limits to our potential, my friends.
33:47 When Canadians are free to achieve their dreams,
33:49 we will be a nation that fulfills our destiny.
33:53 That Canada, affordable, autonomous,
33:57 and bursting with opportunity is the Canada that we must build.
34:01 We must be realistic and optimistic because while a realist counts the odds,
34:11 an optimist changes them.
34:13 Let's do both.
34:14 Thank you.
34:16 [applause] here today, Pierre, um at the Canadian Club.
35:00 Um it's where leaders do come to speak, so we're so welcome to to host you.
35:04 And where they face some of the most thoughtful, curious,
35:07 and frankly well and global tensions that you mentioned that continue to rise.
35:22 So we're going to talk a little
35:22 about policy and removing obstacles that you mentioned,
35:25 a little about politics and some of the personal.
35:28 Um I'm going to start with some of the personal.
35:30 Um over the last year you've stepped outside
35:32 your usual political media circuit and done more long-form interviews,
35:37 podcasts, um international conversations,
35:41 and conversations where we really got to to know you a little bit more.
35:45 What from those conversations allowed you to say
35:47 or learn that traditional media uh didn't?
35:52 Well, listen, um I think that those formats are much more free-flowing.
35:59 They they ask more open-ended questions and leave time for the answer.
36:04 Sure.
36:05 Uh and you know, in some instances, like when I was on the Bartlett show,
36:09 he asked a lot of personal questions that I really didn't anticipate.
36:12 Um we had a brief call with his team beforehand
36:15 and he they were asking all about our policy agenda Yeah.
36:18 what are the major issues in Canada.
36:20 So I was sort of cramming all this economic and military data
36:24 into my brain expecting that and then he asked about, you know,
36:27 my my childhood and family life and So a lot of people say, "Well,
36:31 what was your strategy in talking about all these things?" Well,
36:34 I was asked a question, so I answered it.
36:36 He just caught you.
36:37 He just uh he just asked the questions and I
36:39 think those sorts of formats allow people to get
36:42 to know their leaders better than compressed sound bites
36:45 that are unfortunately uh part of the more traditional media environment.
36:51 For sure.
36:51 I I I heard that interview and as many others did, I'm sure.
36:54 And with Stephen, he really did go beyond the policy into the personal,
36:57 family background, upbringing.
36:59 Yeah.
36:59 What do you think there's something that's still left um when
37:03 you meet people that they assume about you that's not right?
37:08 Well, I think people know that I'm a fighter.
37:10 I don't think they always know what I what why
37:12 what I'm fighting for and why I'm fighting for it.
37:15 And I think it it is related to my upbringing.
37:17 I I was very blessed to live in this country where
37:19 you can get a great opportunity no matter where you start.
37:22 And that fundamentally motivates me in everything I do.
37:25 So sometimes the political pugnacity that you see is a reflection
37:29 of that I'm frustrated that that opportunity's
37:32 been taken away from other people.
37:34 Um so you know, if you have to you have
37:37 to be known for fighting against something but also for something.
37:40 Mhm.
37:40 And what I'm really fighting for is to make it possible
37:43 for anybody to do a version of what I was able to do,
37:47 which is to pursue their dreams and achieve it here in Canada.
37:50 And that's the country that I want to restore.
37:52 So it's about that motivation.
37:54 That's Well, that's why I do it.
37:55 And I think the why is the most important question that you should ask.
37:58 Is not, you know, the the what and the how are are also necessary,
38:03 but you have to ask what is your purpose in all of that and that is my purpose.
38:07 Um moving just on to policy, conscious of time.
38:10 Um thinking about perception and reality and some of the comments that you made.
38:13 As you look at the numbers and statistics on Canada,
38:16 it's actually quite troubling right now.
38:18 Per capita GDP, as we all know, has been declining for a decade.
38:21 There's a big gap now with the United States, our closest neighbor and ally.
38:25 Our productivity is only 75% of the United States and importantly,
38:28 these trends predate uh recent global tensions and certainly US tensions,
38:33 as we know it with Trump.
38:34 It's so troubling, especially as a young family,
38:36 to think about where Canada goes from here.
38:39 So what went wrong and what's what has to change to turn it around?
38:44 Well, we have we have one thing standing in the way and it's the government.
38:47 I know that we we like to complicate things,
38:50 but we can look at all these external factors,
38:53 but why are these factors impact impacting us more than everyone else?
38:58 It it doesn't make sense that we have the most expensive housing
39:01 in the G7 even though we have the most land to build on.
39:03 All those other countries have to contend with tariffs and and foreign wars.
39:07 It doesn't make sense that we have the worst investment levels in the G7.
39:11 All the other G7 countries are contending with the same global factors.
39:14 So it might be a As I said in my speech,
39:17 a comforting tranquilizer to say that there's some
39:20 faraway cause of the problems caused here at home, but that won't fix it.
39:26 And um frankly, in the last year, uh Mr.
39:30 Carney has compounded every single one of these problems.
39:32 The government is bigger, it is spending far more money.
39:36 Uh Mr.
39:37 Mr.
39:37 Carney doesn't look like someone who would spend
39:39 more than Justin Trudeau, yeah, but he is.
39:41 He's spending vastly more than Trudeau.
39:44 His government is much bigger and more intrusive.
39:46 He's got more bureaucracy than he inherited.
39:49 And he continues to block the essential industries of our country.
39:53 So, if we can get the government off the back and out of the way,
39:56 we can unleash the potential of the Canadian people.
39:59 The good news is we know what to do.
40:01 The the blueprint is there.
40:02 We just have to do it.
40:03 Got you.
40:04 Um how aware do you think Canadians are of the of the challenge?
40:07 I mean, you're out meeting with people every day.
40:09 Well, they're living it.
40:10 Right.
40:10 Uh I think that some people have been hit harder than others,
40:14 but no matter where you go, young people can't afford a place to live.
40:17 Uh increasingly seniors are are forced to uh choose
40:22 between heating their homes and paying and paying their rent.
40:26 Uh we see we see now so many people who have to go
40:30 to food banks because they can't afford the their incredible cost of food.
40:35 And folks tell me that every day.
40:37 And the good news is that we can restore affordability to this country.
40:41 That is our That's got to be our single most practical priority.
40:44 Make this a country where people can afford to live and have good lives again.
40:48 Um after Monday, the government now has
40:50 a clear majority and control of its agenda.
40:54 What excuses are gone now,
40:55 and what should Canadians expect to actually see delivered in the next year?
41:01 Well, I would argue they never really had any excuses for the last year.
41:05 You know, I saw I saw a headline Mr.
41:06 Carney said it's time to get serious.
41:08 Yeah.
41:09 I mean, what has he been doing for the last year?
41:11 Right.
41:12 Has he Has he not been serious for the last year?
41:14 I mean, I thought we were in a very serious time all along.
41:18 Parliament has given incredible grace to this government.
41:20 As I said at the outset, we we helped Mr.
41:23 Carney pass a law speeding up projects in 5 days.
41:26 Yeah.
41:27 He had no problem passing his budget, um his crime bills.
41:31 We've been trying to push his albeit
41:34 watered-down insufficient crime bills to move faster.
41:37 So, he's the only thing standing in his own way.
41:40 And now but you know, now that he doesn't even have a rhetorical excuse.
41:45 And it's going to be time for him to to produce.
41:49 You know, Mr.
41:50 Carney's been in power now a year.
41:51 When will groceries be affordable?
41:53 Right.
41:53 When will the pipeline be under construction?
41:56 When will that famous deal with the United States actually happen?
41:59 By the way, I understand there haven't been negotiations in 5 months.
42:03 Mhm.
42:04 What's happening there?
42:05 I think it's going to be time for him to deliver
42:07 on all the very lofty promises he made in the last election.
42:10 And we'll be there to hold them accountable on all of those things.
42:12 It's good to hear.
42:13 The government now is using a lot of language and ideas you've used for years.
42:18 Uh affordability, competitiveness, getting things built.
42:21 I haven't read an article this morning that was previewing
42:23 your speech here today asking who was going to be
42:26 in the room from the Prime Minister's office to lift a few
42:29 of your great ideas so that they can next be introduced.
42:32 So, is that a validation of your agenda, or where does it go from here?
42:35 Because you do uh generate a ton of great ideas.
42:39 It's shaping the national discussion as it was introduced as Rona said,
42:42 but where does it go from here?
42:44 Well, I'd love to say that that imitation is the highest form of flattery,
42:48 uh but unfortunately, it's only imitation in words.
42:51 In reality, he has not implemented any of the ideas that I I ran on.
42:56 Even the things that you might think he has,
42:58 he didn't get rid of the carbon tax.
43:00 He brought in a new newly named tax.
43:03 It's a little lower right now,
43:04 but it will rise to the previous same level, and it it applies more broadly.
43:08 That's the the so-called clean fuel standard.
43:11 Um he hasn't got rid of the anti anti-development laws.
43:13 They introduced some crime laws.
43:15 They haven't passed any of them.
43:16 Right.
43:17 Uh they're sitting in the Senate.
43:18 Uh I said we needed to have balanced budgets and low low spending.
43:22 Spending has gone up quite dramatically.
43:23 So, I agree that Mr.
43:25 Carney is has used a lot of my words, and I thank him for that.
43:29 I think I thanked him in person for it.
43:31 But I would like to actually see them implemented.
43:34 Then I would be very flattered.
43:36 Well, we'll have to see, I guess, a year from now.
43:38 I think he did promise more substance,
43:41 less showboating, I think, was the Prime Minister's language.
43:43 So, this in 12 months we'll invite you back, and you can let us So,
43:45 I guess the the last 12 months has been about showboating, then.
43:48 Yeah, it feels that way, right?
43:49 Um let's finish with a quick light lightning round,
43:52 conscious of time and getting you back to the office.
43:54 Um early morning or late night?
43:57 I'm more of a late night guy.
43:58 Double-double or double espresso?
44:00 Double espresso.
44:01 More stressful question period No, quadruple espresso.
44:05 All right.
44:05 Keeps the energy up.
44:07 Yeah, I've got two kids, so.
44:09 Uh more stressful question period Our son is
44:12 actually making us coffee in the morning now.
44:14 That's great.
44:14 It's like a little butler.
44:15 Incredible kid, yeah.
44:17 Most days I'm his butler, but he's doing that.
44:20 Sorry.
44:20 Need to have more.
44:21 Yeah, that's right.
44:22 Um more stressful question period or Toronto traffic?
44:25 Well, obviously Toronto traffic.
44:28 Question period is fun.
44:29 Uh most overused word in Ottawa right now?
44:33 Oh my goodness.
44:34 You want to give me some hints from the crowd here?
44:37 unprecedented I'll catalyze it.
44:39 I'm unprecedented.
44:39 Who's voting for catalyze?
44:41 Who's voting for unprecedented?
44:43 All right, we'll go with unprecedented.
44:44 One word for Canada's economy today?
44:48 Um Can I have a combined adjective, hyphenated?
44:53 Yeah.
44:53 Below potential.
44:54 Okay.
44:54 And what it should be?
44:57 It should be the most affordable in the world.
45:00 And Leafs next year, yes or no?
45:02 Uh that's an easy one.
45:05 [laughter] I I think you know the answer to All the Leafs fans here.
45:10 So, look, I know we're we're we're tight on time.
45:12 Thank you, Pierre.
45:13 That was great.
45:13 I think we got more direct answers in this 10
45:15 minutes or so than maybe years at question period.
45:18 So, Pierre, thank you for that.
45:19 We can fix that.
45:20 We just need to someone new answering the questions.
45:22 Right.
45:23 Uh so, ladies and gentlemen, please join me in thanking Pierre Poilievre.
45:26 Thank you.
45:27 And um Pierre, Ready to go.
45:30 thank you.
45:31 Thank you.
45:32 Thanks, guys.
45:33 Appreciate it.
45:34 On behalf of the Canadian Club, thank you to TD and to Enbridge.
45:38 Thank you.
45:38 Thank you.
45:39 Thanks, everyone.
45:40 Great.
45:40 Well done.
45:41 Thank you.
45:44 All right.