Erika No-Shows JD Vance. Public Relations Lies About Why. | Candace Ep 325
Candace Owens
0:01 All right, you guys, Shabbat Shalom.
0:03 Mommy stayed home for the first time, I might add, ladies and gentlemen.
0:07 Congratulations, Erica Kirk.
0:09 I got to tell you, I am getting too old for this.
0:11 I'm being serious.
0:12 How old am I getting?
0:13 My birthday is coming up in a couple of weeks,
0:15 and this morning I was having the team help me pick out a microscope
0:20 that I want as a present because I'm I'm in my dweebing out era.
0:24 I'm suddenly interested in DNA and cells,
0:26 and I'm watching TikToks from phlebotomists.
0:29 Like, why do we need to go to the doctor for everything?
0:30 Can't I figure this out with the microscope?
0:32 That's how old I'm getting.
0:33 Too old to have to take time out of my precious
0:36 day to work through the latest Turning Point public relations blunder.
0:41 Blunder after blunder, lie after lie.
0:43 They treat us like we are toddlers.
0:46 They want us to make believe.
0:49 Yesterday, Erica no-showed an event last minute,
0:52 an event featuring the Vice President of the United States.
0:56 How disrespectful.
0:58 Well, not as disrespectful as the excuse that currently handing us as to why.
1:04 Plus, Victor Marx, Pastor Victor Marx, have some respect.
1:08 He replied to me, and to be honest, the response was kind of weird.
1:12 It's just weird.
1:13 I can't explain it.
1:13 I'll let you guys be the judge.
1:15 Welcome back to Candace.
1:32 So, last night, in case you missed it, in case you've been hiding under a rock,
1:35 Erica Kirk was slated to appear alongside her friend Vice President J.D.
1:40 Vance at the University of Georgia, and she just completely no-showed it.
1:45 She stood him up.
1:46 That is not casual.
1:47 That is the sitting Vice President of the United States.
1:50 It is low-key disrespectful outside of a real emergency.
1:56 Emphasis on the word real.
2:00 It was mystifying at first, really,
2:02 especially since the decision very clearly had to have been made.
2:07 We were left to assume that it had been made in the umpteenth hour.
2:11 Because the announcement was made by none
2:13 other than than Andrew Kolvet on stage.
2:16 This means that ticket holders were not
2:18 informed until the very moment of the event.
2:21 Actually, the Turning Point leaders who put together the event
2:24 were not informed that she was not going to be there.
2:27 How do we know?
2:27 Because they were posting and promoting
2:30 her appearance just 50 minutes before doors opened.
2:33 Here is a video of a TPUSA staff promoting her.
2:37 Take a listen.
2:38 Hey everybody, my name is Grant Toler,
2:40 I'm the field representative for the Peach
2:41 territory and also the University of Georgia.
2:43 And I'm Carolyn and I'm the University of Georgia chapter president.
2:46 And we are here at the Aiken Sport Arena about to host J.D.
2:50 Vance and Erica Kirk.
2:51 Doors open at 1:50, so come out and support your country.
2:54 We'll see you there.
2:56 They look sweet and happy and clearly not informed of what was going on.
3:01 So, if the story that they are going to sell to us, that there's a threat,
3:06 uh then we we have to assume Erica was on the ground, right?
3:10 On the ground in Georgia, something happened and she pulled out, but she wasn't.
3:13 She was back home, which means that decision had to have
3:16 already been made long before those students made that video.
3:21 Yet, Andrew Kolvet is going to, as you are about to see,
3:25 last minute on stage inform and surprise
3:28 even the event planners with this message.
3:30 Take a listen.
3:32 For those of you wondering why uh I
3:34 don't have really flowing long blonde hair right now.
3:37 Um So, I'm going to address it right at the front.
3:41 Uh Mr.
3:41 Vice President, I'm on stage here instead of our friend Erica Kirk.
3:45 That's right.
3:46 Um because unfortunately,
3:48 she has received some very serious threats in her direction.
3:53 Which is terrible.
3:55 It's a terrible reflection on the state of reality and the state of the country,
3:58 but it underscores a larger point that she has received a lot of attacks.
4:06 Um from some surprising places, perhaps.
4:11 Tell us what you think about that and some of the people that have made,
4:14 you know, part-time jobs out of attacking Erica and this is the net result.
4:20 Oh my I Is the implication here that it's our fault?
4:24 Is it my fault?
4:25 Why do I feel like they're talking about me?
4:27 Is that weird?
4:28 Uh uh She's not here and Come on, Veep.
4:32 Come on.
4:32 Explain to everybody how it's actually
4:34 Candace Owens's fault because she's being attacked, more broadly speaking.
4:38 What do I have to do with her going to an event?
4:40 And by the way, this is weird, but I told you guys I'm aging.
4:43 I am so old that I distinctly
4:45 remember when the messaging was the exact opposite.
4:49 They were sort of gaslighting us the other way.
4:51 Remember, right after Charlie was assassinated,
4:53 a lot of people were like, "Look, um she's doing a lot.
4:58 She's kind of just like doing a lot.
5:00 Like, I would be pretty scared.
5:01 Most of us, even people who didn't know Charlie,
5:04 were scared to go out their door.
5:05 The world felt less safe,
5:06 but his wife was just fearlessly trotting through all of these events,
5:10 attending, speaking,
5:12 massive uh sold-out 21,000 spillover crowd at State Farm Stadium.
5:18 And the PR machine was like, "Oh, you notice that she's doing a lot.
5:22 Well, let let us explain to you why she has no fear.
5:25 Let me explain to you why she's she's abnormal.
5:28 She's just she's just a sits above you all.
5:30 In fact, Erica Kirk herself jumped in and this was
5:35 the reason that we were given via her interview with Jesse Watters.
5:39 Take a listen.
5:40 Do you feel safe?
5:43 I do.
5:44 What are they going to threaten me with?
5:46 Going to heaven sooner to be with my husband.
5:48 And I don't say that to be reckless.
5:50 I do not.
5:51 I do not say that because I'm out in the streets like here I am, come find me.
5:55 And that's not at all.
5:56 It's It's It's a fearlessness that's rooted in the understanding
6:01 that I will have my day and my time, whenever that is.
6:06 When the Lord knows that it's I've completed my my mission.
6:12 And I'm not afraid.
6:14 Charlie wasn't afraid either.
6:15 We never lived in fear.
6:16 If we did, we wouldn't get anything done.
6:18 And I can't help run alongside this mission
6:23 of Turning Point USA and raise my babies with fear.
6:26 I can't.
6:26 That's not a life to live for anybody.
6:30 So, that was in her godlier-than-thou era, right?
6:33 When we had, like I said, normal concerns like,
6:35 "Hey, wouldn't you be kind of scared for your kids?
6:37 You're doing a lot, right?" N- No,
6:39 Erica is on fire for the Lord, and that's why you don't understand it.
6:42 It's supernatural because the Lord has given her this courage.
6:44 So, I'm just asking the common sense question, what changed 7 months on?
6:49 What was the threat that Erica endured
6:51 that was so severe 7 months later that she
6:54 had to last-minute cancel an event with the number two man of this great nation.
6:58 What threat could be so severe that she
7:01 didn't even trust that the Secret Service, right?
7:05 The nation's Secret Service, who's the Vice President.
7:07 He just got back doing negotiations with Iran overseas.
7:11 Like, it has got to be a pretty good Secret Service.
7:13 She did not feel that even they could alleviate it.
7:17 Well, we can always rely on Andrew
7:19 Kolvage to further illuminate matters on Fox News.
7:23 Take a listen.
7:24 It was a really unfortunate experience for me, too,
7:27 just to have to watch that very difficult decision get made,
7:31 which I think is the first time that we've
7:33 ever had to make that decision in Turning Point history.
7:37 But, everything that happened with Charlie,
7:39 obviously, his assassination, we're still, you know,
7:43 grieving that and you saw what happened with Savannah Hernandez,
7:46 one of our TPUSA Frontlines reporters in Minneapolis.
7:51 And to see the security team, you know, tell us we cannot guarantee your safety,
7:56 we recommend that you don't do this, was a really chilling moment for all
8:01 of us to kind of have to internalize
8:03 and experience and realize that Erica Kirk is,
8:07 you know, her children are one parent away from being orphans.
8:10 And sometimes you just have to say, "Listen, right now,
8:15 what's most important is your safety,
8:17 is your security, and your children, your family.
8:19 Let your team handle this, let us do what we can do." And so, you know,
8:24 I obviously was horrified at the reason why,
8:26 but I was honored to stand in and pinch hit for Erica last night.
8:31 And I was grateful for the vice president
8:32 to that we didn't have to ultimately cancel the entire event.
8:36 He was willing to do it with me and it was very gracious of him.
8:41 I'm sorry, guys.
8:42 I'm just getting whiplash.
8:43 I really I just I feel like that's what we were saying.
8:46 Like, what could be more important than
8:48 being home with your children when she was
8:50 just all on the book tour and she botched it and we were just told,
8:54 "No, she's a brave soul.
8:55 This is what she wants to do." And she want
8:57 the worst thing was she she would be reunited with Charlie.
8:59 And now it's so bad that it's requiring a level of Hazmat, right?
9:03 They're even going to bring in their Hazmat friends over at the Daily
9:06 Wire to further substantiate the matter cuz people are going, "This feels weird.
9:10 What could be so much of a threat that they just let the VP,
9:14 vice president of the United States, carry on with the event?
9:16 The people are noticing this doesn't sound right to us." And so,
9:21 since Charlie's passing, the Daily Wire,
9:22 you will note, always has the inside scoop
9:24 on what's going on with Erica Kirk for some reason.
9:27 And here is what they said Twitter.
9:29 They said, "Regarding the threats of Erica, threats to Erica Kirk that prevented
9:35 her from attending today's events with Vice President Vance,
9:38 a TPUSA official tells me that their security had been
9:41 monitoring the situation in the days leading up to today's event.
9:45 People were doxing her travel location and trying
9:49 to track her arrival and departure, I'm told.
9:52 And there were multiple direct threats against Erica specifically.
9:56 This ultimately led to her security's assessment
9:58 that they could not guarantee her safety.
10:00 The event venue itself was fine, especially once VP was on site,
10:03 but it was the travel portion that was the chief concern,
10:07 the official tells the Daily Wire.
10:08 Her children are one parent away from being orphans,
10:11 and so we take the security's assessments and advice seriously.
10:16 Okay, so a couple things right off the bat wrong with that.
10:19 Um Erica now worried about her kids.
10:21 Yeah.
10:22 Okay.
10:23 Uh this feels like a level of propaganda that they have not hit before.
10:27 Uh you're also telling us now because
10:29 you're realizing they're always responding when the public
10:31 doesn't accept the you know the first sloppy
10:33 meal that they tried to feed feed us.
10:35 They're like, "Okay, no, no, okay, you're right,
10:36 doesn't make sense that the VP would be
10:38 able to attend this event and Erica would not.
10:40 So let's switch gears.
10:41 We'll say it was related to travel,
10:43 that people were tracking her plane." Um okay,
10:46 people had been actually tracking Erica's plane since the very beginning.
10:49 People were doing entire shows about where she was going and how much she
10:51 was traveling and how ridiculous it was and she never canceled a single thing.
10:55 So that's just on its face not true.
10:57 Secondly, um if you're going to be a person who is
11:00 a public figure and you are going to travel privately, as she does,
11:05 then yeah, people are going to be able to easily guess which
11:08 which airports you're going to which private terminals you're going to fly into.
11:12 They're not going to know which FBO, but you're telling me what is the threat?
11:15 What could possibly be the threat to her travel?
11:18 She flies in and she flies out on a private
11:20 plane that they just could not alleviate it.
11:23 What what did they threat?
11:24 We're going to be at the FBO.
11:25 We'll be at every FBO.
11:26 We'll be at Signature.
11:27 We're going to be at Atlantic.
11:29 We will be there and we are going to boo you.
11:31 What is the What is the threat?
11:32 Tell us more about this threat,
11:34 which was specifically taking place with doxing her travel schedule.
11:39 What does that even mean?
11:40 Her event is listed publicly.
11:41 People buy tickets, or I guess not buy tickets,
11:44 but they register their tickets to go to these events for free.
11:48 So, you're you're doxing yourself.
11:50 In order to be a public figure that goes on a tour, right?
11:53 If you're a singer, songwriter, you got to say where you're going.
11:57 You're doxing yourself, but someone's tracking your plane.
12:01 Well, what is the concern there that could not be alleviated?
12:03 You couldn't have somebody on the ground just waiting there
12:05 to make sure nobody was inside the private terminal, by the way.
12:09 This This woman does not fly publicly.
12:12 Yeah, like I said, it had to have been something bad.
12:15 I'm not buying this plane tracking excuse.
12:17 It seems to me, especially they're mentioning the kids now.
12:20 Every time they do that, that's that they're basically using
12:23 every tool that is not even available in Erica's emotional shed.
12:27 So, what actually happened?
12:30 Let me back up here and give you some facts about the University of Georgia.
12:33 There are over 43,000 students that are enrolled at the University of Georgia.
12:38 Uh this event was, as you heard him say,
12:40 scheduled to take place at the Akins Ford Arena uh at the Classic Center,
12:45 which is near the University of Georgia.
12:47 The stadium holds just 7,000 people.
12:50 So, they were hoping, with the announcement that the Vice President
12:53 of the United States was going to be attending,
12:55 that it was a guarantee that they would be able
12:57 to peel off something like 15% of the student body to attend.
13:02 But actually, they needed even less than
13:03 that because to make matters easier for them,
13:07 they also opened the tickets, the free tickets, to the general public.
13:11 So, forget having to get 15% of the student body to sign up,
13:16 they just needed generally 7,000 people in the area
13:21 that wanted to support MAGA and/or the rockstar widow, Erica Kirk.
13:27 Reality?
13:28 Nobody wanted to attend.
13:30 The ticket numbers were abysmal.
13:32 That is what happens,
13:33 and I want you to know that that is what has been happening.
13:36 So, in the umpteenth hour, they decided to cancel her appearance.
13:40 And here is the evidence of uh what that event looked like uh looks like.
13:44 Here's a tweet with an accompanying clip,
13:46 which was taken from reporter Jake Trailor, who is reporter with MS Now.
13:52 Uh take a look at this tweet.
13:54 And the accompanying video of the auditorium, he wrote,
13:57 "Turning Point USA seems to have mis estimated crowd size for Vance.
14:01 The Aiken Ford Arena less than 25% filled for the vice president." Now,
14:06 he's assuming it's because of Vance.
14:10 Right?
14:10 That people are not showing.
14:12 Uh could be another reason.
14:15 A person who was supposed to be there until the umpteenth hour,
14:17 people could be turning down that particular opportunity,
14:20 and I'm sure everything Vance and Trump are
14:22 doing at this current moment isn't helping much, either.
14:25 In fact, it was so bad, right?
14:29 The The turnout was so bad that if we go back and rewatch that Fox News clip,
14:34 they're actually showing you fake footage.
14:37 Well, it's not fake footage, it's real footage,
14:39 but it's fake B-roll because it's from old Turning Point events.
14:43 This is how sloppy the Hazbra is.
14:45 We'll show you this.
14:45 We'll scroll here.
14:47 Not the venue.
14:49 Not the venue.
14:49 And yet, in the corner, it says Andrew Colvett via X on Tuesday
14:54 cuz they went and it says says Athens, Georgia.
14:56 This is not true.
14:58 This is true propaganda, and we took a closer look at it,
15:01 and they actually spliced together three separate events so
15:06 that they could show something of substance when Andrew spoke.
15:10 That is humiliating.
15:12 That is humiliating, and he's there pitching a story, a sad story,
15:16 about why they couldn't do it because uh it's your guys' fault.
15:20 You didn't keep Erica safe.
15:21 Now, I am told by Turning Point USA college
15:24 students and volunteers that this has been a repeat problem.
15:29 That they similarly had a very hard time
15:32 moving tickets for her event in Washington, D.C.
15:35 with Caroline Levitt.
15:36 They just could not hit capacity.
15:38 They never did despite effectively turning these events.
15:41 They're not I don't even know why it's called a college tour anymore.
15:43 It's just anybody in the public, general admission,
15:46 that is willing to come listen to Erica Kirk speak for free.
15:50 Please come.
15:51 They're going to eventually start paying people to attend these events.
15:53 And they cannot sell out to even a small auditorium.
15:57 And yesterday it looks like was
15:58 the worst audience turnout in Turning Point's history.
16:03 Okay, let me repeat that.
16:04 Under Erica Kirk's stewardship, Turning Point USA is now facing a crisis.
16:08 It is the worst turnout in the organization's history even
16:11 with a feature alongside the Vice President of the United States.
16:15 Similarly, they had to move the Believers Summit,
16:18 something that they advertised for last year.
16:21 It was slated to take place back in October,
16:24 but they could not move any free tickets.
16:28 Erica knew that she was not coming long
16:32 before Andrew Kolb made the announcement on stage.
16:35 Yet, she did not make a statement herself until after the event began.
16:40 What gives?
16:41 Here's what she wrote on X.
16:41 She retweeted a clip from the event and she wrote this.
16:45 I was so looking forward to tonight's event
16:47 at the University of Georgia with our Vice President.
16:50 But after all our family has been through,
16:52 I take my security team's recommendations extremely seriously.
16:56 Thank you to our amazing Georgia chapter for your support.
17:00 God bless you all.
17:01 I I I I can't stand the lying, the constant lying.
17:07 And she is not being honest.
17:10 Okay, she she moves things off of her calendar.
17:13 She will make it work.
17:14 I White House here If she the weekend,
17:16 she was at Bettina Bettina at Mar-a-Lago, the one who's marrying Don Trump Jr.
17:22 She was at her bridal shower.
17:23 Erica will be wherever it is that she needs to be.
17:27 That is not the reason that she chose not to show up.
17:29 And how do we know that this was
17:31 not some last-minute cancellation related to a threat?
17:34 Well, first off, common sense.
17:36 I knew they were lying as soon as Andrew announced it on stage.
17:39 Take it from someone who has endured a great many threats.
17:41 The last thing you do is announce a threat on stage when one is happening.
17:45 In fact, I have dealt with threats at Turning Point USA events,
17:48 where we have had to inform them this guy who was completely
17:51 insane and escaped a mental institution or he was a mental hold.
17:55 And they didn't know where he was.
17:57 They alerted us and I was doing an event in Nashville with Charlie.
18:01 We had to alert the security team.
18:03 Nobody goes out and says, "Hey, Candace has a threat.
18:06 That's why she's not here." And you know what?
18:08 Would you like to, JD?
18:10 Let me give you the stage to blame everybody for her having this threat.
18:13 That is so performative and outlandish that I
18:15 instantly knew that it didn't pass the sniff test.
18:19 But another way that we can confirm that we know that this is not real
18:22 and they're making this up is because Erica
18:24 was also slated to speak yesterday at 1:30 p.m.
18:27 in Georgia at a local high school.
18:30 But she canceled that event.
18:31 And she didn't cancel it last second.
18:33 She canceled it the day before on Monday.
18:36 Okay?
18:37 So Tuesday, yesterday,
18:39 she has a 1:30 event and then she has an evening event with JD Vance.
18:43 But on Monday at noon, she had already informed the high school that she
18:47 was not going to be in attendance a full
18:49 day before her last-minute on-stage cancellation of her event
18:53 with JD that the students did not even know about.
18:55 So she honored the high school students with information
18:58 but did not honor the college students with any information,
19:00 making them look like fools outside.
19:02 Okay?
19:03 And they How did they do it?
19:05 They emailed and they texted and informed the parents at school
19:09 that her appearance had been canceled and they gave a reason,
19:12 and that reason was not security.
19:15 Let's read it together.
19:15 Here is the text that went out canceling the high school event.
19:19 It reads, first you can see they set this event up on March 30th.
19:23 On Monday, you can see that it reads parent alert,
19:28 due to scheduling complications,
19:31 the optional Turning Point USA high school event scheduled for tomorrow,
19:34 September 14th, has been canceled.
19:36 We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused
19:39 and are hopeful for other Turning Point opportunities in the future.
19:42 Okay?
19:44 A scheduling conflict.
19:46 A scheduling conflict, not a threat, but a scheduling conflict.
19:49 Now, if there were a viable threat,
19:52 wouldn't have been prudent to inform the administration of a high school?
19:56 Even if it was an airplane-related threat that oh,
19:58 it must be if it's so serious,
20:00 like someone's going to harm her, you tell the high school,
20:03 "Hey, we have a very viable threat right now.
20:05 We don't want to bring this to you." They were not informed that.
20:07 They were just told it was a scheduling issue,
20:09 and there was not some significant thing that was pending in the background,
20:15 um, which caused her to abandon her previous God's Got Me philosophy.
20:20 So, like I said, don't don't you think her staff would
20:22 have let the high schoolers know if there was a a threat?
20:25 That would have been the responsible thing to do.
20:26 I am told the truth is again that there was
20:30 immediate parental backlash already that kept
20:32 happening because she was announced, and they basically said, "Okay,
20:35 this is an optional event." They then ended
20:38 up that there was going to be abysmal attendance,
20:41 meaning nothing that they could record on social
20:43 media to make it look like she's, you know, got the crowd going crazy,
20:47 and so it was nothing for her to look forward to, and so she skipped it.
20:50 This keeps happening.
20:51 Parents and students are organizing against her for a variety of reasons.
20:56 Some of them, those reasons that we have laid out on the show,
20:59 they do not trust her, they do not believe
21:01 her, and I can give you provide more proof for you, uh,
21:05 by way of a parental chat on Facebook that is currently going on right
21:09 now regarding another event that she has coming up at a high school in Phoenix,
21:14 uh, right in her backyard, no less.
21:16 And this is a Pinnacle High School.
21:18 The parents are organizing.
21:19 Look, take a look at this chat.
21:21 Uh, this is a parent that posted saying,
21:23 "I am very concerned learning that Erika Kirk is going to be speaking."
21:26 And then you can see an anonymous member wrote below, "As as a teacher,
21:30 I find this highly inappropriate inappropriate and a safety
21:33 risk to our students and staff." "Also, as a teacher, I know the district may
21:37 care more about attendance more than anything else.
21:40 So, call your kids out of school and that will send a message.
21:43 They are Basically, 36 likes.
21:45 They are organizing essentially a walkout, a boycott of Erika Kirk.
21:50 Okay?
21:51 I haven't reported on this stuff in the past.
21:53 I've been very aware that this is going on.
21:55 The reason why I am now laying this out today is because what enrages me so much
21:59 about the messaging the set up there by Andrew
22:01 Colvin is that it is akin to narcissistic abuse.
22:05 They can never admit that they have
22:07 failed or that they have done anything wrong.
22:09 So, what do they do?
22:09 They tell the public that it's our fault.
22:12 It's your fault.
22:13 If If this wouldn't happen This wouldn't happen
22:16 if you guys would just stop criticizing her.
22:18 That's completely psychopathic.
22:20 We don't accept that.
22:20 We reject that.
22:22 Okay, no one does this.
22:23 People cancel events last minute for a variety of reasons.
22:26 He got drunk last night.
22:27 He's hung over.
22:28 Their PR comes out, makes an excuse.
22:30 He had a mental breakdown backstage.
22:32 We've seen a lot, especially in the land of rock and roll.
22:36 Oh, I lost my throat.
22:37 I lost my voice.
22:38 I won't be able to sing tonight.
22:39 Probably was partying.
22:41 I want you to actually go through your mind of all
22:44 the famous people that you know who have canceled events last minute.
22:46 When do you ever recall management coming out
22:49 with messaging that implies that actually it's your fault.
22:53 It's the public's fault.
22:54 You didn't keep this person safe.
22:58 They couldn't come out tonight because you failed this person.
23:02 Well, that's exactly what the messaging was
23:04 and you should be infuriated about it.
23:06 It is ridiculous.
23:06 They are now paying influencers.
23:08 Oh, if only everyone would just leave her alone.
23:11 No one would track her plane.
23:13 What?
23:14 Do you not think people are tracking J.D.
23:16 Vance's plane?
23:17 Elon Musk took his notoriously off of something.
23:19 Taylor Swift.
23:20 People get their planes tracked all the time.
23:23 By the way, there's no remedy for that situation.
23:26 What's the future remedy?
23:27 We're just not going to announce when it
23:28 We're just going to pop up and surprise people?
23:31 The messaging was crappy.
23:32 I'm so sick of there never being an adult
23:35 in the room that will just come out and say, as a leader would, "You know what?
23:39 Ticket attendance wasn't great.
23:41 Um, we want to remedy that in the future.
23:43 We want to figure out what we can do,
23:44 changes we can make so that we can establish
23:47 Erica as the new leader of Turning Point USA.
23:49 You know, they're still getting to know her." That's responsible messaging.
23:52 But, these guys, it's your fault.
23:55 And shame on J.D.
23:56 Vance uh for taking the bait on that in response to Andrew Kolb questioning.
24:01 He's going to lecture us.
24:02 He's going to come in and he's going to lecture us.
24:04 Take a listen to what J.D.
24:05 Vance has to say.
24:07 Again, if your instinct is to go after not the left-wing radicals
24:11 who are assaulting Savannah or not the people who shot Charlie Kirk,
24:16 but if your instinct is to go after a a young mother because
24:19 she's grieving in a way that you find in a you you find wrong,
24:24 well, why don't you stay in your lane and mind your own business?
24:27 Yeah, amen.
24:27 Grief is complicated and I just Grief is complicated.
24:32 And I you know, so you know, there's there's another angle to this, Andrew,
24:36 which is just so absurd, which is that, you know,
24:38 people will say that, you know,
24:41 Erica, you know, she she's she's been doing this or she's been doing
24:45 that and I would be doing something different
24:47 and it's like first of all, that's fine.
24:49 Like if if you want to criticize somebody because you have a disagreement,
24:52 disagree with my politics,
24:54 disagree with something that Erica or Andrew say on the Turning Point podcast.
24:59 We do.
25:00 But, But this desire to go after
25:02 her for the way she's she's grieving her husband,
25:05 that's the most preposterous thing I've seen in a very long
25:08 time and I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in politics.
25:11 Okay, first off, we do criticize them all
25:13 the time for what they say on the podcast.
25:16 The whole public has been doing that actually since everything happened.
25:18 Please stop saying this repeat phrase that everyone grieves differently.
25:21 It doesn't matter how many times you say it, doesn't make it true.
25:23 Okay, you can't just say stuff.
25:25 Everybody grieves differently.
25:26 Yeah, no, for sure.
25:28 Everyone that I know does that No one,
25:30 that's why it stands out to people and people go this is strange.
25:35 Most people would fear going out.
25:37 They would want to be closer to their kids.
25:39 Stop trying to constantly feed us this slop.
25:42 But the the audacity to say something like he just said,
25:46 he said that it was the most preposterous thing
25:50 that he has seen in politics in a very long time.
25:52 People criticizing Erica Kirk.
25:55 That's the most preposterous thing he's seen in politics in a very long time.
25:58 Disagreeing with the new CEO and chairman.
26:01 This is not just a widow, this is a new CEO and chairman of TPUSA,
26:04 a position that she did not earn.
26:06 Nothing that she has done warrants her being in that position.
26:10 Uh and that to him is like, "Whoa, I can't believe people are doing
26:12 this." I've seen some preposterous things just over
26:14 the last few weeks in politics that should
26:16 probably rank higher on your list, okay?
26:19 Like when you guys blew up that school,
26:22 150 Iranian schoolgirls were killed and then you lied about it.
26:26 That to me feels a little more preposterous.
26:29 I mean, it was not just even 2 days ago
26:30 that Trump said that he thought Jesus was a Red Cross doctor.
26:34 That was a little preposterous.
26:35 Y'all are just out here lying about things.
26:37 I don't know, Epstein files?
26:39 Did you have time to go through that, Mr.
26:41 Vice President?
26:41 Nothing in there ranked more preposterous
26:44 for you than us criticizing Erica Kirk?
26:47 How about Trump just generally attacking a pope because he's calling for peace?
26:52 How about Trump saying that Brigitte Macron is hot?
26:55 That was pretty preposterous.
26:57 That she's got it.
26:58 It's not even close.
27:00 The literal ticket you guys ran on was calling for peace.
27:03 Now you're attacking the Pope or Trump is
27:05 attacking the Pope because he's calling for peace.
27:06 That feels pretty preposterous.
27:08 Going to war with the explicit aim of opening the Strait of Hormuz,
27:13 which was already opened before you began the war, is pretty preposterous.
27:18 Gas prices right now are pretty preposterous.
27:21 Us criticizing a grieving widow who
27:23 can't keep her story straight about anything?
27:26 No.
27:27 That's not That's not even That shouldn't even hit your radar.
27:30 So please do not lecture us, JD.
27:33 Do not, okay?
27:35 The lecture that is coming from you is exactly why we don't like Erica,
27:40 because we see it for exactly what it is.
27:42 It's elite.
27:43 She has money and connections.
27:45 She can call Vice President JD Vance.
27:47 She can get the Secretary Scott Bessent to issue a letter on demand,
27:52 demanding you stop looking into their finances.
27:54 She can get Trump to say how much Charlie loved her in his Easter speech.
27:58 It's the balcony approach that makes us sick.
28:01 We feel it, you guys,
28:03 looking down in the crowd like we're animals and you're somehow more dignified.
28:08 Okay, Mr.
28:09 Vice President, respectfully, our friends aren't in the Epstein files.
28:13 And I have enough common sense to know that the reason we referred
28:16 to it as common sense is because
28:19 it's shared amongst the commoners, us, the majority.
28:22 And right now, the left and the right, the internet,
28:25 we have correctly identified the nature of your friend Erica Kirk.
28:29 So please, I beg of you.
28:31 We are 7 months into this thing.
28:32 Please do not give us more bed slop.
28:36 We have had our fill.
28:37 And if it is truly your desire to transform hearts and minds about Erica,
28:42 might I very humbly suggest that you start with a story
28:45 that makes sense about a September 10th, what happened?
28:49 One that doesn't feature magical bullets and Superman necks and that write
28:54 out entire confessions in the spirit of a Jane Austen novel, my love.
29:00 One which doesn't feature uh company employees who witnessed
29:03 the shooting and for some incomprehensible reason neglects to call 911,
29:08 but instead rushed to remove cameras within minutes.
29:12 That would be my advice.
29:12 Rather than lecturing us from a balcony,
29:15 string together a coherent story and a timeline for the commoners.
29:20 Please and thank you.
29:23 Anyway, moving on from that onto some
29:24 other things that are happening behind the scenes.
29:26 Essentially, Turning Point is now just in the business of creating an illusion.
29:30 And by an illusion, I mean that even when they are
29:33 posting events of her being greeted at events with like, you know,
29:37 thunderous applause behind the scenes,
29:39 you should know that middle schoolers and high schoolers are
29:42 being forced in some scenarios to sit in these events.
29:45 It's mandatory.
29:46 Okay?
29:46 They have no option.
29:47 So, remember when you went to school and there was assembly?
29:49 When you had to go to assembly in the middle of the day?
29:51 That is the state of affairs at Turning Point USA.
29:54 They are the administration.
29:56 It's an assembly.
29:57 Surprise, Erica Kirk is here.
29:59 And they're like, "Look,
29:59 the room the auditorium is filled." Like I I guess to be to keep it real,
30:05 if I was in high school, I was really bad at chemistry, if he offered like,
30:08 you know, five extra points and was like, "Candace,
30:11 like you can bring up this this really bad grade that you got if
30:15 you go sit with Erica Kirk in the assembly right now or after school.
30:21 No, I still wouldn't do it.
30:22 But I'd think about it.
30:24 I'd think about it.
30:27 I don't wish them bad.
30:28 I just wish them truth.
30:29 I want them all to stop lying about
30:33 everything and anything and thinking that a J.D.
30:37 Vance or a Sprinkle of Trump is going to change things.
30:39 Please stop abusing the public with lies.
30:41 And, already, since more things are leaking, Andrew is commuting the story.
30:49 Right, yesterday it was,
30:49 "This is happening because of the people back at home." Now,
30:52 he knows stuff is coming out about
30:53 the high school event that was canceled on Monday,
30:56 but he's trying to fit it into this puzzle.
31:00 Um trying to make it work somehow that he
31:03 announced it on stage suddenly that Erica wouldn't be attending.
31:07 Um and here he is on Charlie Kirk's
31:08 show this morning with their latest excuse that's dropping.
31:13 Take a listen.
31:14 Obviously, the big part of the news was that Erica was uh she canceled
31:19 her appearance at that because of security
31:21 threats uh that were made against her.
31:24 It was something we were you know, monitoring for days before the event.
31:29 We actually had a high school event that was
31:31 planned to be before the college event in the area
31:35 that we had to cancel a few days before
31:36 because of the increased online chatter that we were monitoring.
31:39 Our security team, I should say, was monitoring.
31:42 And so, we thought, you know, we got the Secret Service,
31:45 everything should be fine at the main event,
31:46 but what ended up happening uh and I have to be
31:49 somewhat careful here because the security uh our security team does,
31:53 you know, obviously wants to be a little bit uh circumspect in the way that we
31:57 talk about this cuz we don't get want to give the bad guys any more ideas.
32:01 But, it was a situation where they were
32:03 trying to dox her travel and monitor travel,
32:06 suggesting different ways to that people could attack her, and it was
32:09 like something we were actively trying
32:12 to navigate and change itineraries, move locations.
32:17 Nobody wants to live that way.
32:18 Um it was a terrible experience in many many ways,
32:21 and I feel terrible for Erica.
32:23 And ultimately, you know,
32:25 when you're in that moment and the security team looks at you and says,
32:28 "We can't guarantee your safety." At some point, you just have to say,
32:32 "There's we'll do this a different way." Tough job, Andrew.
32:39 It It's truly a tough job that Andrew Kolb has.
32:44 I just just got to keep up with the crowd and pivot the stories,
32:48 try to make it make sense.
32:49 The plane There was a threat, you know,
32:50 he tried to move the FBO in the charter a different plane.
32:55 We don't know the tail number.
32:56 You don't know the tail number.
32:57 Or were they sharing?
32:58 I mean, it's like what are we talking
32:59 You guys have multiple planes during the USA?
33:01 Oh, it just was a threat.
33:02 We just can't tell you too much.
33:03 We can't tell you even though we announced it on stage.
33:05 We know that people are asking for more.
33:07 We just we just want to honor the security
33:10 and these threats are very serious and that's why when Charlie
33:12 multiple times texted me and the security team the day
33:15 before saying he thought he was going to be killed,
33:17 we don't like to talk about that.
33:19 We don't talk about that threat.
33:20 That threat we we don't want to talk about this one.
33:22 We want you to know it's your fault.
33:23 So, don't criticize Erica.
33:26 Um yeah.
33:27 Emotionally manipulative, narcissistic.
33:30 We do not I reject this and you should, too.
33:33 Anyway, we are going to be back after
33:35 a brief break with an update regarding Pastor Victor Marx.
33:39 He responded.
33:41 Um and it's interesting.
33:42 We'll be right back.
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37:11 Pastor Victor Marks, what can I say?
37:13 He was a difficult subject to cover.
37:16 We A lot of editorial decisions had to be made cuz there was just so much.
37:21 There was just so much to choose from.
37:23 And I want to be clear,
37:24 the information that we got about his biography, that came from Victor Marks.
37:27 We could have put together tons of clips.
37:29 He tells his story many times, many ways, and we just were like, "Okay,
37:33 let's try to reduce this to the facts about his life,
37:37 who his father was, who his stepdaddy was,
37:39 the things that he has said." And um we we didn't
37:42 even include the stuff going on with his family, his daughter,
37:47 um very public back forth that went on where she was
37:51 accusing him of abuse and um There's a lot of that.
37:55 And then she retracted her statement after they
37:58 began speaking again and okay, we're like, "Okay,
38:00 we don't need to include that." We didn't include the young
38:03 woman who alleges that Victor Marks kidnapped her from Canada.
38:07 She's The people had her on the shows and she discussed how she was kidnapped,
38:11 but there was a lot going on with Pastor Victor Marks.
38:14 I think it is fair to suggest that he has a checkered background.
38:20 And we have never received more emails and more tips about
38:23 anyone actually um in our tips inbox it was a recurring theme.
38:27 You need to look into Victor Marx, Victor Marx, Victor Marx,
38:29 Victor Marx allegedly was the first person who announced
38:32 that Charlie Kirk had died and then he deleted that post.
38:36 I remember that from all of the things that were happening.
38:39 It was like why did Victor Marx announce it first and then he deleted that post.
38:43 So yeah, we I think we did a good job to kind of sizing
38:47 it down to the relevant portions of what these pastors seem to get up to.
38:52 I don't even know where he pastors.
38:54 Where is he a pastor at?
38:55 I think that was one of the the points that was raised by Corby Hall.
38:58 It's like I realized he doesn't have a church.
39:00 I don't know why he says he's a pastor.
39:02 Um and I don't know why Erica can't make normal friends.
39:04 None of my friends have these sorts of backgrounds and um they're not
39:07 the people that I would want to see in the event of an emergency.
39:10 But like JD said, she be grieving differently y'all.
39:13 She be grieving differently.
39:15 Anyway, so Victor Marx clearly saw my episode very quickly and he
39:20 took to both his Instagram and X to issue a very quick response.
39:26 It's a little weird.
39:26 It's weird.
39:28 Let me know if you think it's weird.
39:29 This is this is this is what he said.
39:33 Ooh.
39:35 Well all righty then.
39:38 Love you Candace.
39:39 Let me know when you want me to come on the show.
39:43 Praying for you.
39:46 Okay, but like why do the glasses have to come off?
39:48 Why do we have to go all like Clark again about it?
39:51 Well all righty then.
39:52 Give it to me again.
39:53 Well all righty then.
39:55 Give it to me one more time.
39:56 I got I got I got to watch that again.
40:01 Well all righty then.
40:06 Okay, can you like can we get a DJ booth go
40:09 booth going where we just like get the sounds that we like?
40:11 That's a bite.
40:12 That's a bite.
40:13 You guys need to have that little whenever I'm feeling well all righty then.
40:17 Anyway, I don't know what the point of that was and he then published "Oh,
40:20 I've been accused or in this episode, this is what he suggested." Buddy,
40:24 you can't be accused of what you're telling us your bio is.
40:27 Now, I read Corby Hall's statement in its entirety,
40:31 flushed out what he had to say, felt like he was a very honest person.
40:34 And again, he was ready to come on the show and discuss everything,
40:37 bring all of his evidence.
40:38 So, I I my instincts are usually right about people
40:40 and my instincts about you were that I don't know.
40:44 You had supplements that you were doing with David Harris.
40:47 David Harris calls God Papa.
40:49 I don't know and he like you guys said that like
40:52 proceed like the supplements were going to help human sex trafficking victims.
40:55 It's too much.
40:57 It's just too much.
40:59 Okay?
41:00 My my senses, my spidey senses say no good.
41:04 Anyways, I obviously responded instantly.
41:06 I I wrote this beneath the post.
41:08 We are actually going to have Corby Hall of Fold AR
41:11 on and he is game to do the show with you.
41:14 I am happy to have you both on if you agree.
41:17 And Corby Hall said, "Yeah, I'm good.
41:18 Let's do this." He actually suggested it, Corby Hall.
41:20 He said it cuz he saw the post first and said,
41:22 "I would 100% do this face-to-face." Like he he's
41:26 very serious about what this man did to him.
41:28 And like I said, he has all the evidence.
41:30 So, it wouldn't make sense for me.
41:31 I I couldn't rebut anything that Victor Marx said about Fold AR.
41:34 We were already going to have Corby.
41:35 Let's make this happen.
41:36 And so, too because I wanted to make sure that we could establish a date.
41:42 I instantly then reached out privately.
41:44 I will show you guys that.
41:45 Um I wrote, "Hi Victor, give me the best number.
41:48 We would love to set it up.
41:49 Corby Hall is completely game to join.
41:51 Best to have him there since I read his letter and he has the proof etc.
41:55 of what you wanted from him plus the prayer that you prayed over him.
41:59 We have up until we hit go on today's episode, not heard back from him.
42:04 I don't even see that it's read.
42:05 He may not He may not have read receipts
42:07 on, but I obviously responded exactly where he posted the video.
42:10 We will keep you posted and I am totally game and very interested.
42:14 Finally, we got one of these pastors on the hook.
42:17 I want to reel him in.
42:18 I want to reel him in and talk about his relationship with Turning Point USA,
42:21 how we got found as a pastor.
42:24 Calvary, what goes on near that military base.
42:28 I I It feels to me like a whole military operation.
42:30 I'm going to be honest.
42:31 We done episodes, we have done our due diligence on Calvary Chapel as a whole.
42:36 I find it to be problematic, but that's my opinion.
42:39 I'm allowed to have it.
42:41 Anyway, I wanted to let you know that we then were hit
42:42 with another wave people emailing us from Turning Point USA inside and outside.
42:48 I love this, just so you know.
42:49 We have people that are saying that they will get jobs
42:52 at Turning Point USA just to give us information from the inside.
42:55 We have people volunteer They're like, I am going on an interview.
42:59 I replied, they want me in.
43:00 I will be I will be a mole.
43:01 Like that is how the world feels.
43:03 They're willing to go to work to get information.
43:07 It makes me happy and it makes me smile
43:09 because that is the influence that Charlie Kirk had.
43:12 Like that's incredible that people are willing to do that for him.
43:15 But anyway, people are still on the inside and and people
43:18 who were fired also informed me that yeah, no,
43:20 there's other people that have trafficking history
43:23 that are involved with Turning Point USA
43:25 and in particular there is someone who openly
43:29 discusses the fact that he used to traffic arms.
43:33 I'll say allegedly, but this is apparently
43:34 something he's very open about around the office.
43:36 He's very close with Andrew Kolb.
43:38 That's what I am told by again both current
43:40 and former Turning Point US to us Turning Point USA employees.
43:44 His name is Marcus Wada.
43:46 Okay, here is his bio from Turning Point's website,
43:49 which is interesting to me already.
43:51 He's the senior productions director.
43:53 Marcus Wada is the director of strategy of productions at Turning Point USA.
43:57 Marcus has spent a decade in film and television production working
44:00 on films that were internationally distributed
44:02 and television shows such as Miss Universe.
44:07 Okay.
44:09 That's a connection there.
44:10 Marcus works to raise financing for films and producing films.
44:13 He left Hollywood to work in the conservative movement producing and directing
44:17 Turning Point USA's documentary series Border Battle and The Great Global Reset.
44:21 Well, apparently he also, which I wouldn't put it in my bio too to be fair,
44:25 regularly tells people his testimony about how
44:27 he was involved in trafficking arms in Poland.
44:31 Poland, where you at?
44:32 I saw you in the chat.
44:33 Someone said watching from Poland and I said, "Ooh,
44:36 you guys are getting name dropped today." So yeah,
44:39 he used to be involved with trafficking in Poland.
44:42 But then, as the story always goes, he found God.
44:46 I am just so pleased to hear it.
44:48 I'm so pleased to hear it that so many
44:50 people involved with Turning Point are able to find God.
44:54 Uh Turning Point USA is out here, I guess,
44:56 just finding employees and partners in a manner that is it is unique.
45:02 It It is unique, I would say.
45:04 It's It's like a mesothelioma commercial.
45:09 Were you or someone you know involved in trafficking?
45:10 Give us a call today.
45:12 There may be a place for you in our faith department vibes, right?
45:15 So then I found out via these employees that Marcus Wada also says
45:20 that his brother is still involved in the game
45:22 somehow in the industry in some way.
45:24 Is it charitably?
45:26 Is there a difference?
45:27 I can't be sure at this point.
45:28 Anyway, I did end up finding the guy and prodding that narrative.
45:30 There seems to be something there.
45:32 I'm assuming it must be a half brother because he
45:34 has a different last name and this guy's got is Jewish.
45:38 Um and he runs a consulting company that consults in human trafficking.
45:42 What can I say?
45:43 It's a big industry, you guys.
45:46 And I want to be clear, these people are not involved in the trafficking.
45:49 They are charitable and want to alleviate
45:53 this global circumstance and these people also,
45:57 you know, have histories, but they it I don't know, guys.
46:00 You can I didn't know you I didn't even know you could consult in those things.
46:01 I thought the website was made up.
46:02 I was like, "What What does this mean?
46:03 You're a a consulting in drugs and Look at this.
46:07 Industry areas." National border security, money laundering,
46:11 human trafficking, sex trafficking, firearms and ammunition.
46:16 This is brother.
46:17 Controlled substances.
46:18 Okay.
46:20 What does it mean to consult in it?
46:22 How do you consult in it?
46:23 I don't know, guys.
46:24 I don't know.
46:25 I'm like I'm an old dog that can't learn a new trick.
46:30 That's my problem.
46:32 But I am good at spreadsheets.
46:34 Not so great at Excel,
46:35 but I know how to put together a timeline in spreadsheets and to organize.
46:38 You guys should see my pantry.
46:39 It is ridiculously organized, okay?
46:42 And I did put together You guys saw
46:43 this earlier the connecting themes spreadsheet because we
46:46 kept seeing these recurring themes and I did not use Excel as it should be used,
46:50 but I did put together these columns
46:52 and it's it's the trafficking and sex abuse.
46:56 I should write charity to make that clear.
46:58 Uh it's getting pretty long, you know.
47:00 Derek and Charlene Maxfield,
47:02 that was that plane that left and went to Page, Arizona that day.
47:05 They run a child abuse charity um a trafficking charity uh Sapria.
47:11 Colonel Auto Bucher, obviously the Romanian instance with Erica,
47:15 all surrounding what happened at the military
47:18 base and he worked with Romanian Angels, which was her charity.
47:22 Uh the civilian commander stationed at Fort Huachuca
47:26 uh charged with running a child sex abuse ring.
47:29 Turning Point USA faith,
47:30 Greg Laurie uh whose church Erica went right on tour with him.
47:34 Harvest Church is currently being accused
47:36 of trafficking children from Romania, okay?
47:40 They are fine with that partnership.
47:42 George Zinn, our decoy boy,
47:44 was arrested for having pornographic images of children on his phone.
47:47 Andrew Piskadlo, uh that was the person who was detained that day uh
47:52 works to ring the alarm on military
47:54 Ukrainian sex trafficking in the United States.
47:56 Calvary Chapel Church is obviously riddled with pastor abuse stories.
47:59 That's an aside, a Rob McCoy aside.
48:01 Going back Tim Ballard, that's Operation Underground.
48:04 Tim Ballard, um his name come up in the mix
48:07 early on as someone who was being met with that day.
48:11 Um Erica Kirk lived in China or in the days that followed rather,
48:16 if I remember correctly.
48:17 Erica Kirk says that she lived in China
48:19 and worked with child sex trafficking victims,
48:21 but she's mum on that now, tight-lipped,
48:22 does not want to talk about what charity that was.
48:24 No one seems to be able to find it on the internet.
48:27 We know she was living in Was it Chongqing?
48:29 Am I saying that right?
48:30 To Chongqing?
48:31 I think it's spelled Chongqing, maybe it's said Chongqing.
48:35 Uh that's interesting.
48:37 The TPUSA advisor, Paul Vallely,
48:40 retired army general who ran psychological operations
48:43 and co-wrote the book with Michael Aquino,
48:46 the Satanist and founder of the Temple of Set.
48:50 I didn't know Satanism had a great schism, but they did.
48:53 Some people thought that Satan was an idea,
48:55 some people thought that he was a real person,
48:57 and so the Temple of Set was born out of Satanism.
49:00 Just so you guys know, if you're not up on your Satanist theology.
49:03 Anyways, not a bar for entry as an advisor to Turning Point USA.
49:07 He was accused, I'm referring to Michael Aquino,
49:10 was accused of abusing children at Army Child Development Centers.
49:14 Victor Marx, as we learned, runs a charity for child sex abuse.
49:17 I I We got to add his his pills, too.
49:19 What are the What are the pills, man, that he's doing with David J.
49:23 Harris that a portion goes to help sex trafficking victims?
49:28 Nelde Buckman, the number one donor to Turning Point USA,
49:33 is extensively involved in rescuing children
49:36 that are being sexually abused and trafficked.
49:39 Uh the backstory that she gives with that her first husband,
49:42 this is this is her story, her first husband cheated on her with like
49:46 a lot of women that were in the industry,
49:47 and she was angry about that, but then she realized that she
49:50 wanted to understand these women and that brought her to the uh
49:55 trafficking industry and now she's doing she has a lot a lot
49:59 of angels this angels you know Texas angels and Austin angels I can't
50:04 remember all of them but that's another connection there and now we
50:07 have Marcus Warda involved I should probably change that to more responsibly say
50:13 formerly involved in trafficking arms in Poland according to Turning Point USA
50:17 current employees and past employees so we can just update that spreadsheet you
50:20 guys uh just so I can say that clearly formerly involved Marcus
50:23 Warda we just kind of type that as a note yeah we'll live
50:26 edit that just so that doesn't get misunderstood from the public formerly
50:30 comma he's not formerly Marcus Warda guys no he is Marcus Warda was
50:34 he formerly Marcus Warda I don't know actually I don't if people
50:37 change their names nothing would surprise me maybe he is formerly Marcus Warda
50:43 I think we're having a little bit too much fun today guys
50:45 I'm just like the stories are just getting so they're just so ridiculous
50:49 so what can I say what can I say ladies and gentlemen
50:53 um we will be right back after a quick break all right you
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53:02 I see someone in the chat was like,
53:03 "He does not look Polish to me, Marcus Wata." Well, it's on his LinkedIn.
53:06 He lived in Poland, so he maybe just speaks Polish.
53:09 I don't know.
53:11 I don't make these rules, guys.
53:12 I just research and listen to the people and present it to the public.
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54:04 Um, top comment from last episode, Jared Johnson wrote,
54:07 "Erica is the kind of friend to steal money
54:10 from you and then pray that you find it."
54:13 That one took me out yesterday because I just
54:16 I feel like you hit the nail on the head.
54:18 Erica is the kind of friend that will steal
54:20 your money and then pray that you find it is like,
54:23 "Jared, Jared, you win every award." I I
54:26 laughed out loud when I read that comment.
54:29 Pray for you.
54:30 Oh my god, you lost your wallet, honey?
54:31 Oh my god, I'm so sorry.
54:32 I'm going to pray for you.
54:34 I pray pray the Lord finds it, you know?
54:37 Elizabeth Broman or Brown wrote,
54:39 "She didn't know how to play the part of a human being." She's quoting me.
54:42 Exactly what woke up everyone.
54:44 Yes, hope you're paying attention, Daily Vance.
54:47 There is such a thing as having a spiritual intuition about things.
54:50 It's what keeps you safe.
54:51 Being aware of something about just this feels off,
54:53 and that is something was not tracking.
54:56 And then when she wasn't behaving the way that she should behave,
54:58 you guys basically told us that we were
55:00 crazy for noticing that, that she had no fear.
55:03 And now you're flipping the gear.
55:04 You're just completely doing a 180 now and saying she has fear.
55:08 Come on, guys.
55:08 Just stick to a script.
55:10 Stick to some form of a script.
55:13 Okay, comments on today's episode.
55:16 Smith writes, "Did JD just slip up by saying that the people
55:20 that killed Charlie?" I I didn't even catch that he said that.
55:24 And I do believe that there were people involved,
55:26 multiple people involved in killing Charlie Kirk,
55:28 and I do not believe that it was Tyler Robinson alone on a rooftop.
55:31 And so, we're going to continue to read the court documents and stay
55:35 on top of them and force them to be honest about things for a change.
55:40 Uh CC writes, "It's extremely nuts to be screaming
55:43 make heaven crowded while canceling appearances because of a threat.
55:47 The irony of Charlie still making his event after
55:49 telling people that they were trying to kill him.
55:51 Go home and be a mom like Charlie wanted.
55:53 You just can't have it both ways.
55:54 You can't You don't get to be a public figure
55:56 and to say I don't want to have any attention,
55:59 but I do want to be the CEO and the chairman of Turning Point USA.
56:02 It's always like they they they are the people
56:05 that present the problem and then when everyone's like,
56:07 "Okay, well, you're you're the person.
56:08 You're the one that brought the public into this." They go,
56:11 "Oh, no, no, no, no, never mind.
56:12 I just want privacy." It's giving Meghan Markle.
56:14 Do you know what I mean?
56:15 Like I I want I want to be the princess, but I also want privacy when I want it,
56:18 but I also want Netflix cameras when I want it.
56:20 Life is just doesn't work like that, okay?
56:22 You can't take us into the casket and then pretend
56:25 to be aghast when people ask you where you buried him.
56:29 Did you bury him?
56:30 Do you think that they cremated Charlie?
56:31 I ask myself that question.
56:33 Right?
56:34 I ask myself occasionally whether or not they cremated Charlie.
56:38 Cuz that is starting to make sense to me that they would do that.
56:41 I don't know.
56:42 Cuz now she can't she can't share the details cuz she says
56:45 people are are are going to come and try to destroy I mean,
56:47 I can't think of a single figure
56:49 that's deeply hated in American history that has
56:52 suffered having um people go after the grave site and I I I I I I
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57:14 I I and she's making decisions and she's
57:15 reversing course on the things that Charlie believed
57:18 and reversing course on the things that she
57:20 alleged that she believed when Charlie was alive.
57:22 And people are going to call that out and they have a right to call that out.
57:24 And so I encourage people to continue to do that.
57:27 If she doesn't want to play the role of the CEO and chairman,
57:30 she's welcome to step down.
57:32 Okay?
57:32 She's more than welcome to the day-to-day criticisms of how
57:36 Turning Point USA is being run into the ground.
57:39 Uh but otherwise, you know, put on your big girl pants, so to speak.
57:43 Sarah Miller writes,
57:44 "Loved ones of missing and murdered people regularly get dissected
57:48 in their interviews with the press for how they are grieving publicly.
57:50 I guess you are only allowed to grieve
57:52 differently when you're a part of the Epstein class.
57:54 It's bogus." Yeah, that's I mean, that's completely right.
57:56 People absolutely tear apart people every second of every day.
58:00 Especially given the size of this case, and as I said earlier,
58:04 their inability to just string together a a comprehensive
58:08 story regarding what took place on September 10th.
58:10 It just it They're relying on us to accept make-believe.
58:15 This is a This is a This is a fairy tale story.
58:17 And then they're like, "Well,
58:18 why don't you believe that Rudolph had uh a red nose, Candace?
58:21 Why don't you believe that he was carrying
58:23 Santa's big butt all across the North Pole?" Like,
58:26 I just don't believe that, actually.
58:28 And oh, they How do Do not How could you not attack that?
58:31 And it's godly, and it's this, and the Lord,
58:33 and then it's suddenly not the Lord,
58:34 and they have real concerns, and it's just all over the place.
58:37 It's very sloppy.
58:38 Caroline writes, "Candace, please let me help you with your Excel.
58:41 I can do wonders." No, I am just using it to organize the columns.
58:45 I am ignoring the rows.
58:46 We are just doing the columns on connecting themes because I was like,
58:49 I could make this in Word,
58:50 but why would I when Excel has already made this for me?
58:52 Thank you.
58:54 Yeah, we're keeping that forever.
58:55 In fact, I am inspiring an entire generation to misuse Excel spreadsheets.
59:00 I'm very proud of myself.
59:01 Jolie writes, "TPUSA is no longer considered to be Turning Point.
59:04 It should now be known as Trafficking Point.
59:07 I It It's topsy-turvy point.
59:09 It's tumbling point.
59:10 It's certainly not the organization that I knew, that I supported,
59:15 and that I loved, and it is It's feels like it's been infiltrated by Zionists.
59:19 I think from the very beginning we felt that.
59:20 I think that's honest.
59:21 That's a That's a a fair take.
59:23 And um even in their like I said,
59:25 there's this like bizarre partnership that they
59:27 just keep having with the Daily Wire.
59:28 Like we know what the Daily Wire is.
59:29 So, when we see that, we go, "Hmm, that's weird.
59:33 Why That's not That's strange." And we have
59:36 a right to comment on that and to recognize that.
59:38 Lastly, Granny Manny writes,
59:40 "They were screaming for your arrest and worse on X last night.
59:44 I could not believe how hostile it was.
59:46 Love you so much, Candace." These people are insane.
59:48 Like if if Erica literally like fell and scraped her knee.
59:53 If she did what I did and she broke her foot,
59:55 they'd be like, "This is Candace's fault." That's what they want.
59:57 They're trying to create that environment and so
59:59 we need to be conscious of that, okay?
1:00:01 Everything we have done on this show has been fair.
1:00:04 Charlie Kirk was murdered.
1:00:05 We are being lied to about the details surrounding that murder.
1:00:07 And I granted her grace beyond what the internet was willing to give her.
1:00:11 She lied to my face.
1:00:11 She has lied multiple times and the lies are inexplicable.
1:00:14 They won't clarify any of these lies.
1:00:15 They are pretending like she's too busy,
1:00:17 like she's some grieving powerful widow behind the scenes.
1:00:20 She's not.
1:00:21 Actually, she plays very nasty, just so you guys know.
1:00:23 Here's a fact.
1:00:24 Erica personally made phone calls trying to get people not to go
1:00:29 to the Catholic event that I spoke at the other week.
1:00:32 Okay?
1:00:32 She plays dirty behind the scenes.
1:00:33 The people who were fired told me who was behind this PR push.
1:00:37 Erica was behind this stuff the entire time.
1:00:40 So, you can completely miss me.
1:00:41 I don't play that way.
1:00:42 With me, you get what you get.
1:00:44 I'm going to say it on my show.
1:00:45 I'm not going to wheel and deal.
1:00:46 I'm not going to call a PR person and be like, "Could we get this article?
1:00:49 Could we try to see if we can get Candace canceled from this event?
1:00:51 Could we try to see" It was sold out.
1:00:53 The event was sold out.
1:00:54 Um it's cuz I don't play that way.
1:00:55 I don't have that karma building up in the background.
1:00:58 I don't have to worry about I don't treat people that way.
1:01:01 I'm always up front and I was up front
1:01:03 with her when I sat down with her and she lied.
1:01:05 Okay?
1:01:05 So, she got onto my list of people
1:01:08 that I find to be suspicious because of her own
1:01:11 actions and her behavior and her lack of interest
1:01:15 in the very many holes in this case,
1:01:17 her anger at Joe Kent for trying to investigate foreign involvement.
1:01:21 Who do you think is orchestrating all that?
1:01:22 Does it sound to you like Andrew McCabe has a brain
1:01:25 or like there could be someone more conniving behind him?
1:01:29 I offer you the latter, okay?
1:01:31 It is definitively the latter.
1:01:34 I will leave it at that.
1:01:36 Um I guess that's it for today's comments.
1:01:38 We will see you guys tomorrow.