I Love My Mac - WAN Show April 10, 2026

0:00 Welcome to the WAN show.

0:02 We got a great show lined up for you guys today.

0:04 It is week two of the positive WAN show.

0:08 I had more fun last week than I probably have in over a year doing Wan.

0:14 Maybe we just keep it this way.

0:16 I'm not skimming through the dock today and I was just like, yeah,

0:20 yeah,

0:20 awesome.

0:20 I want to talk about all these.

0:21 We got a lot to talk about.

0:22 One of the big ones is that I have

0:25 spent about the last week with my MacBook Neo.

0:28 I am ready to talk about some of my experiences with it,

0:31 both good and also not as good.

0:34 And in other news, that I got right before the show started.

0:37 You bought one.

0:39 Technically, not for me, but yes,

0:41 I freaking called it.

0:42 So, I can't believe how hard I called that.

0:45 Yeah,

0:45 I I don't know.

0:45 Usually, you're the one who's predicting

0:47 things out here like freaking Nostradamus,

0:50 and now I get to do it.

0:52 Y, it's a small win.

0:54 Y, but it's a win nonetheless.

0:54 Speaking of winds, nonetheless, the French government is ushering in Lan Linux,

1:02 which I assume is how they would say it.

1:04 The year of Linux.

1:06 We'll be talking about that.

1:07 What else we got today?

1:08 Uh, I mean, there's more Linux news on top of that.

1:11 Deer, John Deere settles US right

1:13 to repair lawsuit agreeing to a hundred million

1:16 dollar fund for farmers and other things

1:19 that I think is arguably like more important, but we'll talk about that soon.

1:23 Also, Steam uh just this is actually so exciting to me.

1:27 There's going to be a I can't find the topic,

1:29 but there's going to be a frame rate

1:30 estimator for games when you're looking at them

1:33 in the store so you can tell how well

1:34 it might perform on your machine, which is so sick.

1:38 And they would have the data.

1:41 They would have the data.

1:42 It's awesome.

1:43 And I would have the intro.

2:04 The show is brought to you today by Dbrand, ODU, Squarespace,

2:09 and Proton alongside our rap partner Dbrand and our chair

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2:20 Do we need to have a policy that you're only

2:21 allowed to sponsor the WAN show like once at a time?

2:24 You know what?

2:25 No.

2:26 No, I don't think we do.

2:29 Let's jump right into the headline topic, which this week has just got to be.

2:33 I mean, it's MacBook Neo Mania out there.

2:37 And now that I've switched over to it, dude,

2:40 I got to say it's it's the real deal.

2:45 Yeah.

2:45 Yeah.

2:45 It's funny cuz the one that I purchased, which again wasn't for me,

2:48 but the one that I purchased is the same color.

2:50 Yeah.

2:50 Okay.

2:51 So, you like the uh you like the the the yellowish yellow.

2:55 I think it's just fun.

2:56 There's so many things these days that are just either black or white.

2:59 Yep.

2:59 And it's like Okay.

3:02 So, it's fun to just have something else.

3:03 I don't want to bore you guys.

3:05 And I know that, you know, the LTT audience tends to swing a little bit less.

3:10 Hey, I'm so excited about Apple.

3:11 Please tell me more about Apple.

3:13 So, why don't I talk about some of the challenges that I've had with it?

3:16 It turns out that while the MacBook Neo has

3:19 been an absolutely fantabulous sort of daily driver machine,

3:24 uh, web browsing, word processing,

3:28 uh, chat, you know, all the things that I mostly spend my days doing have been

3:34 I don't know how to describe it other than enjoyable.

3:38 It's just such a nice machine to use.

3:41 every aspect of it that you interface with directly is so good.

3:47 But there have been a few challenges that have

3:50 reared their head over the last little bit.

3:52 And the one that's probably been the most

3:55 disruptive to me is the limitations on the IO.

3:59 If you're the kind of person that never connects your laptop to anything,

4:03 I think I could recommend the Neo without hesitation,

4:08 unless you use software that you, you know, you know,

4:11 you're going to need more RAM, you're going to need more performance for.

4:15 If you're just someone who uses a browser on your laptop, heck yeah.

4:20 If you dock, I've had some issues.

4:24 Really interesting.

4:25 We got a one of those like dual USBC port out into a big breakout box.

4:30 It just runs along the side.

4:32 I think there's one from Anker, U Green, a few different brands.

4:34 Yeah.

4:35 And it's been totally fine, but it's not a

4:39 dock fully.

4:40 So,

4:40 it kind of is.

4:41 There's HDMI out and stuff.

4:42 In fairness to Apple, the display that I'm connected to,

4:46 not the most compatible.

4:48 It's that Dell 6K one that we did a video on a little while ago, and there's

4:53 two problems.

4:53 So, first of all, it doesn't run at 6K, obviously,

4:56 because that there's no way that this would be able to drive it.

4:59 It runs at 4K, which would be fine.

5:02 Um, except that Mac OS's native handling of non 16x9 and non

5:11 the same aspect ratio as their displays displays is frankly unacceptable.

5:19 There's already the weirdness with how Mac handles

5:22 your like where setting your resolution rather sets your DPI

5:27 like it sets your scaling is is how we would sort of think of it on Windows.

5:32 Um and that can already be a little bit confusing.

5:35 But on top of that, when you go through the list,

5:39 even when you say expose all resolutions or or show me

5:42 every resolution or something like that, when I'm connected to that Dell,

5:46 even when I close my lid, which from the last time I did a MacBook challenge,

5:51 if I recall correctly, is the only way to fully disable this display.

5:54 You can't just like turn it off in the display manager.

5:57 Um, and if I'm wrong about that, guys, hit me up in the chat.

6:00 Um, but even if you close the lid

6:02 and you're just only using your ultrawide display,

6:06 I don't get a single ultra wide resolution.

6:09 There is a tool that I downloaded, uh,

6:11 it's called better, I think it's called better display.

6:15 Yeah, better display.

6:18 But frankly, after spending about 3 minutes on it,

6:21 I didn't figure it out immediately.

6:23 And it is seems pretty pretty obtuse.

6:27 So, the the stretching for my display has been pretty freaking annoying.

6:33 Not nearly as annoying as the occasional complete disconnects.

6:36 Oh, weird.

6:37 It'll just disconnect, go back to this for a second,

6:39 and then fire the display back up.

6:43 I haven't messed with an external display, so I haven't ran into any of that.

6:46 Another big one is that I'm getting occasional Wi-Fi issues that Oh.

6:51 I don't know if it's related to Apple's Wi-Fi chip or uh

6:57 or or if it's related to our Ubiquiti access points or what it is.

7:03 But I'm going to I'm going to fire this over to Dan just so I can show you guys.

7:07 But occasionally I will just run into a situation where I can't stream video.

7:15 Weird.

7:15 Yeah.

7:15 I was trying to review a video today on Frame.io and I just couldn't.

7:19 And I was like, "Okay, that's really annoying,

7:22 but maybe it's Frame.io." I have seen it before.

7:25 I've seen it on YouTube as well, but I was like, "Okay,

7:28 maybe it's maybe it's just Frame.io being a derp." And so,

7:31 I fired up YouTube and I had exactly the same issue.

7:35 I literally could not watch a YouTube video.

7:38 I'm not going to I'm not going to make you guys watch the whole clip here,

7:40 but Dan, did you did you get that?

7:43 Yeah.

7:43 Let me know when you get a chance.

7:44 And uh

7:47 for me for me just while he's figuring that out the

7:52 there there was some stuff that was just like learning

7:54 curve things right cuz I have no real experience with Mac

7:56 OS so trying to figure out how to like set

7:58 it up properly and stuff was just a little weird.

8:00 Um but it wasn't it wasn't that bad.

8:02 It's just kind of different and you know coming

8:04 off of being on the Linux challenge for 2

8:06 months or whatever like learning new things about

8:09 an operating system is kind of fresh right now.

8:10 So not a big deal.

8:11 You might say you're more used to thinking different.

8:14 Yeah.

8:14 Yeah.

8:16 Yeah.

8:16 Yeah.

8:17 Um, the thing that really got me,

8:21 sorry.

8:20 The thing that really got me though was installing stuff.

8:23 Okay.

8:23 You ready for this?

8:25 Mhm.

8:24 It's very strange if it's not in the app store.

8:27 The drag and drop thing.

8:28 It's like, oh, drag and drop.

8:30 Give us one second.

8:31 Um, it's like, oh, oh, drag and drop.

8:34 But you drag and drop and nothing happens.

8:36 You have to like drag and hold and then like put it

8:40 in an open spot in the folder and then it sort of happens.

8:44 It's like what?

8:45 I don't even think you have to do that.

8:46 I think it's I think it's already doing it and then you're just

8:48 fidgeting around more and it's doing it in the background and then you're like,

8:52 "Oh, it's done." I I've

8:54 There was also a lot of like ghost loading

8:57 where that's what I want to call it is where

8:59 like you'd go to launch something and just nothing happens.

9:02 Your your mouse doesn't go beachball.

9:03 Just nothing happens.

9:04 Nothing comes out.

9:04 And then you wait and then you Oh man.

9:12 And then you you wait a while and then it just launches.

9:16 People are saying wrong and stuff like Yeah, probably.

9:19 I have no idea what I'm doing.

9:21 It's just those are the things that kind of felt weird so far.

9:24 And I mean to me it's like I get it that that's the Mac way.

9:27 You you drag the thing over what?

9:29 Why?

9:31 Yeah, I already doubleclicked it.

9:31 Yeah, that was the weirdest part for me was like, what even is this step?

9:35 What is the point?

9:38 Yeah.

9:37 Why?

9:38 Just how about just know?

9:39 I I'm willing to bet this is one of those things

9:41 where I understand why other people are used to it.

9:45 Totally get it.

9:46 But hear me out.

9:48 Would you notice or care if that step just

9:51 went away and then nobody ever saw that ever again?

9:55 Yeah, probably not.

9:56 Why does it like mount the installers?

9:58 Maybe I was doing something weird.

10:00 Very likely I was doing something weird because

10:02 I don't know what the heck is going on.

10:03 I was dis I've been disappointed by how

10:05 many things I couldn't find in the app store.

10:09 That too.

10:10 Discord.

10:13 Yeah.

10:12 Wasn't in the app store.

10:13 Why wasn't Discord in the Yeah.

10:15 Why isn't Discord in the App Store?

10:17 Very weird.

10:17 And maybe that's on Discord.

10:18 Because I I went to install something and then realized like,

10:21 oh, I'm probably being such a boomer.

10:23 They have an app store just like Linux has a package manager.

10:26 I should just go use that.

10:28 And then yeah, it just wasn't in there.

10:30 It's very odd.

10:31 I thought and that was one of the steps where I was like,

10:33 "This is for sure a me problem." So, I checked, did I spell Discord right?

10:36 Maybe it's buried for some reason.

10:38 I scroll the whole time.

10:39 No, it's not there.

10:40 Teams, too.

10:41 What the heck?

10:43 Didn't look for teams.

10:44 Yeah.

10:44 And there's so many things and be like because

10:47 people will take advantage of of vacuums in available apps.

10:52 There's all these things that are kind of similarly named

10:56 trying to entice you to download them in the app store.

10:58 It's like, no, it's obviously that's not what I want.

11:02 Obviously, I just want teams and I just want my Discord.

11:05 Yeah.

11:05 But other than that,

11:07 it's actually been wonderful.

11:09 And like I did the the body flex thing.

11:11 I did that as like a demo to show them like,

11:13 "No, it's actually made really well." Yeah.

11:14 It didn't budge.

11:16 Let's uh let me show you how wonderful the experience I had earlier today was.

11:19 Made laptop.

11:20 Yeah.

11:20 But you don't know that this is

11:23 Oh, no.

11:24 No.

11:24 I I rebooted it and the issue

11:26 went away.

11:26 Went away.

11:27 Okay.

11:28 And it's happened a few times.

11:30 Got it.

11:31 I don't think we ran into this.

11:33 I wonder if this is a problem with your unit or something.

11:36 We'll see if other people in chat have experienced this.

11:39 We're not going to be able to watch this whole thing.

11:41 It's a minute of of us watching this YouTube video not load.

11:46 Ah, yeah.

11:46 So, there's definitely been some It just wasn't working.

11:48 It just It was not working.

11:50 It did.

11:51 It did not want any part of any of this.

11:53 I don't think we can go back down, but yeah, there you go.

11:56 Um, let me just see if there's anything else that's kind of stood out.

11:59 The performance is really great until it's not great.

12:03 Search is incredible.

12:06 Oh, Spotlight.

12:06 Oh.

12:06 Oh, you use Spotlight now.

12:08 I don't think I've ever used Spotlight before.

12:10 It made me just mad again cuz I'm like, why why isn't Windows so much better?

12:15 But Spotlight seems awesome.

12:16 The funniest part of this is that,

12:19 correct me if I'm wrong, but over the last few years,

12:21 I feel like the Mac community has soured

12:23 on Spotlight a little bit and feels it's gotten worse.

12:28 Wow.

12:28 It used to be like even better, like god tier

12:33 and now it's still like a tier in my Oh, it's way better than in my opinion.

12:38 But um but from my understanding, Mac users are a little bit like,

12:43 "Come on, Apple.

12:44 We can do better than this." cuz they know they can.

12:46 Spotlight is like I really really liked Spotlight.

12:50 I find the uh navigation of like, you know,

12:54 your local storage and stuff to be pretty simple.

12:57 Like none of it feels like too bad.

13:00 It It was kind of nice coming in with a little bit of pre-existing knowledge,

13:03 knowing that if I had like my active window,

13:06 the controls for it were going to be up in like the top bar,

13:09 whatever you want to call that.

13:10 Like knowing that ahead of time was kind of helpful.

13:13 Um, learning how to use the I think it's the called the dock,

13:17 the bar at the bottom.

13:19 Learning how to use that in different ways and like what

13:21 things mean like if it's to the right of the vertical line,

13:25 it's not actually on your dock, it's just there right now and okay,

13:28 I want to actually pin that to the dock and blah blah blah blah blah.

13:31 I continue to be annoyed that Apple just kind of gets a free

13:34 pass for some of the included software that is basically an ad.

13:40 Um, like the fact that Apple TV is just literally front and center.

13:46 That's okay.

13:47 The Apple TV is probably fair.

13:49 I did think it was kind of neat that games is there though.

13:52 And there's like chess pre-installed and there's like some fun stuff like

13:56 when you want chess, you don't want bejeweled with microtransactions.

14:00 Yeah, this is See, this is my point

14:02 is like Microsoft used to come with cool stuff.

14:04 I used to get pinball and pre-sell.

14:07 Yeah.

14:07 And now it's just like ad garbage and I I get the Mac open and I'm

14:12 suddenly like excited to check out some of the apps.

14:14 I'm like, "Oh, I wonder what the chess app is like.

14:16 I wonder what some of these other things are like."

14:19 Um I I appreciated that not to already pivot it to Linux,

14:22 but when I did my switch to KDE,

14:24 KDE came with a bunch of pre-installed fun little games.

14:27 I was like, "Oh, that's pretty sweet." They're so tiny.

14:30 Like Katos says you should try the Windows Power Toys equivalent of Spotlight.

14:35 It's so sad it's not built in.

14:38 No, it's infuriating that I'm not It's good news and show week.

14:43 I'm not going to be infuriated today.

14:45 But

14:46 good call.

14:46 Good call.

14:47 But the number of times that I've read that comment in float plane chat

14:51 is more than a dozen over a span of at least a couple of years.

14:56 At which point, it's not on me for not installing it.

14:59 It's on Microsoft for not implementing it.

15:01 Like

15:02 if Windows is good by default,

15:04 I will likely be inspired to do things like

15:07 that to mod it to make it even better.

15:09 But Windows has to be good by default.

15:12 Um, if Linux isn't quite there, I'm much more willing to do stuff to

15:18 Well, I didn't pay for it because this is free.

15:20 I didn't pay for it.

15:21 This is a very different they they cannot be seen as equivalencies in my mind.

15:25 even if you're uh putting the the hat on and pirating Windows,

15:29 I still think it's it's not the line is different.

15:32 Um, and if I can spend a little bit of time and get Linux to a great spot

15:36 and then just use that, I would rather do

15:38 that than fight something that actively seems to hate me.

15:41 Um, there extremely different vibes.

15:45 Oh, Dan, I have another fun one for you.

15:48 Uh, I don't think this is really like actionable in any meaningful way.

15:54 Um, but I just thought it was so funny that here

16:00 I'm let me let me send this over to you, Dan.

16:02 Let's do a topic really quick that is related to the MacBook

16:04 Neo and then we'll come back to something really funny.

16:06 You're going to love this.

16:07 Um, the Neo has apparently been so popular that Apple is running out

16:11 of the A18 Pro Bend chips that were not quite iPhone 16 Pro ready,

16:18 but work fine for the less constrained thermal situation in the Neo.

16:24 Uh, Apple reportedly only planned to make 5 to 6 million units

16:27 with the leftover supply they had and are

16:29 now scrum scrambling to get more chips.

16:32 I mean, freaking How does a Don't take this the wrong way.

16:36 I mean this in the most respectful way because Apple

16:40 is a modern-day masterclass in supply chain management and forecasting.

16:45 How the did Apple think they were only going

16:48 to sell 5 to 6 million units of these things?

16:51 I Joe Schmo who can't make enough cables

16:54 to save my life could have told them triple it.

16:59 Like this thing is an absolute game changer.

17:02 And that's probably before the educational

17:04 institutions have even validated this thing.

17:07 Like dude, there's going to be a lot more.

17:11 How can they not?

17:12 How could they that this is the kind of thing that I just I find so baffling.

17:17 Like you remember back in the days when you were always working on like some

17:20 review of some CPU or some GPU

17:24 and we'd release our video where we're like, "Yeah,

17:26 it's not that good." And then the brand would they'd

17:29 call you up or they'd email you and they'd be like,

17:32 "What do you mean?" And we're kind of sitting here going like,

17:35 "You can run the same." Yeah.

17:37 You can run the same benchmarks that we can.

17:39 What are you talking about?

17:40 And in a lot of cases, okay, this might explain some of it,

17:44 which is in a lot of those cases.

17:46 They did it.

17:48 The the the technical teams totally understood.

17:52 Yeah.

17:52 And it would it would end up they would

17:53 just end up being like, "Ah, I don't know.

17:54 It got to marketing." And then they just said

17:56 some stuff and like that's not what we found.

17:59 And this is like this is the opposite of that.

18:01 This is like how could they possibly not have known that they had the product

18:07 launch of the decade on their hands in at least in the laptop category.

18:11 Seriously, name a laptop from the last 10 years as impactful as this one.

18:18 I am not trying to shill.

18:20 I don't have an investment in it.

18:21 I think framework has been very impactful.

18:24 I think if you'd said M1 MacBook I would have massive.

18:29 I still think this takes both of those though.

18:31 I think so too just because of the accessibility.

18:34 I think both of those are up there for different reasons because to me

18:38 the the long-term picture is also really important.

18:41 This is not just today.

18:43 This is a $350 laptop on the secondhand market 2 and 1/2 3 years from now.

18:52 that that and the thing is with its build quality, it'll last probably.

18:56 It's probably gonna be fine.

18:57 Like you you kind of had it slip a little bit earlier in the show and it

19:01 bonked the table and part of me went like

19:04 and then I was like actually it's a tank.

19:06 Yeah, it's probably it's not going to care about that at all.

19:09 And like the fact that there's so little battery in it

19:11 to achieve the kind of battery life that I'm getting.

19:14 It's not class well it is class leading

19:16 but it's not it's not gamechanging battery life

19:19 especially for a MacBook but it's outstanding especially

19:23 when you consider the size of that battery.

19:25 The fact that it's cooling isn't stellar is kind of fun.

19:29 Yeah.

19:28 Like Alex's video just putting the thermal pad under there.

19:31 Like that's cool.

19:32 That makes me want to go mod a laptop.

19:35 I um I've always kind of wondered um like you know how there's laptop docks

19:42 that are supposed to assist with cooling

19:43 by just blowing another fan at the bottom.

19:45 Turns out they don't really do that much,

19:47 at least for any laptops that we've ever tried it with.

19:50 But I've always kind of wondered if there could be

19:53 a thermal interface material that's non goopy sticky enough that you

19:58 could like you could add a bit of surface area

20:00 to some like would that be a good product for LT store?

20:03 Just a machined aluminum thing that you sit your MacBook Neo on.

20:07 Are we on the same wavelength?

20:09 Did you get this from someone?

20:10 Did you hear this from someone?

20:11 You haven't heard this from anybody?

20:13 From who?

20:13 So, I've been pushing this idea that there is a dock that you

20:17 put your laptop in that you have to have like almost press it into

20:21 like a switch too.

20:22 And then uh kind of but flat.

20:27 Okay.

20:26 I was thinking flat but however it works.

20:29 Um and then it could like that you know where the USBC's are.

20:31 So, if it's machined well enough,

20:33 maybe as you press it in, it could like move a lever arm that plugs

20:36 in USBC or something and it puts it on some type of cooling surface.

20:41 And I was thinking it would be really cool if it was like an actual thermal pad,

20:46 but they're probably all going to be too goopy and when you pull it away,

20:49 it's going to pull some material off of it.

20:51 So, like we need some way.

20:52 And then I kind of came down to like uh um what are they called?

21:00 basically a piece of metal with uh one

21:02 of those frick the electrical coolers that create heat on peltier are cool

21:10 probably not the answer

21:11 they're super inefficient

21:13 yeah and you've got to get rid of the heat somehow and so

21:16 you end up with a fan and it ends up see I

21:20 would want a passive solution for this and I don't think I would

21:23 need active cooling I think that as long as I could get more

21:28 and this is ignorance It's not impossibility.

21:31 I don't know how you transfer that heat super effectively without goop.

21:36 Yeah.

21:36 What what my ideal my ideal for something like this cuz like we've

21:40 we've dabbled in improving the cooling

21:43 of passive Apple devices over many many years.

21:46 I I remember water cooling the original USBC MacBook

21:50 back in what was it like a tray of water or something like that.

21:53 Yeah.

21:54 using plasticine or like play-doh or something to shield

21:57 the ports and then just putting it in an ice bath.

22:00 Yeah.

22:01 Um it made a big difference.

22:02 Made a big difference.

22:03 It was pretty cool.

22:04 Um, but ever since then,

22:06 I've always felt like the best solution would be something

22:09 more like a um uh like a a hot cold pack,

22:13 like a freezer pack, like some kind of like a bladder that um that you could,

22:20 in a perfect world, you could actually circulate fluid through.

22:24 So, you could like water cool it,

22:25 but without actually having the water touching.

22:27 Well, I think you could.

22:29 Yeah, probably.

22:29 I've just We've never We've never put

22:31 the development cycles into making something like that.

22:34 what the market would be.

22:35 I have always adored the idea like I was pissed

22:37 with the Switch one that the dock

22:38 didn't offer any potential performance improvements.

22:41 I have always adored the idea that like it works when you're mobile,

22:45 but then you can there there's like an incentive

22:48 to plugging it in that isn't just big screen now.

22:52 The incentive is like this is performance mode.

22:54 I always thought that was really cool.

22:56 Um, and realistically, yeah, uh, Avian,

23:00 this probably is an example of the type

23:02 of device that you could just have a a laptop

23:05 stand with a fan on it and it would probably get you 98% of the way there.

23:09 Yeah.

23:10 Yeah.

23:10 Yeah.

23:11 But the idea of like a big machined piece

23:13 of aluminum with fins in it or something like

23:14 that that you like that you put it on in order

23:17 to get max performance and do a It's pretty cool.

23:19 it might make more sense once we get something with an A19 Pro,

23:23 maybe a year, a year and a half from now or something like that.

23:26 Anyway, back to our actual topic here.

23:28 According to Tom's guide,

23:30 Amazon seems to have the best availability of these things,

23:32 which matters because if you're ordering direct from Apple,

23:34 apparently you're looking at up to four week delays.

23:38 Wild.

23:38 I got I got mine from Oh man, this is kind of unfortunate.

23:42 I got mine from Best Buy.

23:44 Um they were totally sold out on the lower capacity no Touch ID model.

23:50 Um so got the higher capacity with Touch ID model.

23:53 I think that was especially Touch ID.

23:55 I think that was a good move because I

23:57 I I was ended up being kind of happy about it because Touch ID is pretty sweet.

24:01 I have not only ended up missing Touch

24:04 ID just cuz it's like convenient and nice.

24:06 Um, but I've noticed that there are some

24:08 software flows that Apple or their their software

24:12 partners don't seem to have um factored

24:15 in um for devices that don't have Touch ID.

24:19 So, you'll like get prompted to to do Touch ID and like I don't have one

24:24 and it's not like if you search in settings um for like Touch ID,

24:28 it doesn't just tell you you don't have Touch ID.

24:32 Like it just

24:34 interesting.

24:34 if you don't understand that you ordered one that doesn't have Touch ID.

24:39 Okay.

24:39 Sorry.

24:39 Sorry.

24:40 That could be confusing to to like an average user.

24:44 So, speaking of confusing to an average user,

24:46 we we didn't know that the So, the the Touch ID,

24:50 see how yours has like a power button or a lock button or whatever

24:53 it is on that key on the Touch ID one, there's no logo.

24:57 Oh, right.

24:58 Cuz it's a fingerprint sensor.

24:59 So, we were trying to have her do Touch ID and she would press it in.

25:04 We're like, "Why the heck does the computer keep going to sleep?" We're

25:08 like trying to do basically anything

25:11 and the computer keeps just shutting itself down.

25:13 We're like, "What is happening?

25:15 Why is this thing so buggy?" And then Yeah, I know.

25:18 It's We were pressing the power button.

25:19 That makes sense.

25:20 Um,

25:21 what was I going to say?

25:22 Oh, yeah, man.

25:23 The Best Buy experience, dude.

25:25 I I walk right in, tell them exactly what I want,

25:28 and they're like, "Okay, I'll get it from the back.

25:30 I'll meet you here in a couple minutes." Okay, sounds good.

25:33 Goes and gets it from the back, like, "Uh,

25:35 can I tell you about our service plan thing?" And I was like,

25:38 "I mean, yeah, but I'm not getting it." And he was like,

25:42 "Okay." And he pitched it to me.

25:43 He was like, "Worse than I even thought because

25:45 now it's a subscription instead of a one-time buy." Um,

25:48 and he keeps going through the details

25:50 and I'm like literally just sitting on my phone.

25:54 Like I'm not buying this.

25:56 And it goes on for so long and every once in a while

25:58 I look up for my phone and he's like, "Oh yeah,

26:00 you can bring it into uh GeekWad anytime

26:02 and they'll they'll repair it for you." And I'm like,

26:04 "You guys just ship it off, right?" And he was like,

26:06 "What?" I was like, "You're repairing it through a depot.

26:08 You're not repairing it here, right?" And he's like, "Yeah,

26:09 but we give you like a loner laptop while

26:12 yours is out for repair." And I'm just like,

26:14 "Wow, that sounds bad." like, "Okay,

26:18 back to my phone." And it was like a long time.

26:23 Yeah.

26:23 I mean, let him do his job.

26:25 No, I did.

26:26 Yeah.

26:26 You know, no disrespect to the guy.

26:29 You got to you got to do what you got to do, but product service plans.

26:32 Eh.

26:33 Yeah.

26:34 Especially on Yeah.

26:36 I don't know.

26:36 So, to address the availability shortfall,

26:38 Apple is reportedly considering asking TSMC

26:41 to restart A18 Pro production, which is wild.

26:45 Uh, but TSMC is apparently already maxed out on it 3 nometer process.

26:50 So, other options that Apple is rumored to be considering are dropping the base

26:54 model entirely and only selling the higherend

26:57 model to hopefully slow down sales.

27:00 It's not going to do much.

27:01 Even at $700, it's incredible value.

27:05 Or accelerating the release timeline of the MacBook Neo2 with A19 Pro silicon.

27:11 Interestingly, the MacBook Air M5 is readily available,

27:14 but um that's probably because it starts

27:16 at nearly double the price of the cheapest Neo.

27:18 So, it's not exactly uh you know, filling the same niche.

27:22 The Neo is kind of eating Apple's own lunch.

27:24 But that's what that's what hungry companies do.

27:29 They eat their own lunch.

27:30 They compete with themselves.

27:32 If if A series silicon ultimately makes the lowest end

27:36 M silicon kind of redundant in the lineup, so what?

27:40 That's fine.

27:41 Great.

27:41 No problem.

27:42 That sounds fantastic.

27:43 Apple like they're going to get serious market share

27:45 for Mac OS if if they can keep up.

27:48 This thing destroys.

27:49 Like there's no there is no other option that would

27:51 have been even close to as good for the person.

27:54 Well, I think it's pretty clear.

27:55 I bought it for my mom.

27:56 But I I think there's there's no there there was

27:59 no other option for her that would have even competed.

28:02 One thing that has been kind of nice is on a on a hunch I thought it might

28:06 have been better for her because she uh adapted

28:09 to iPhone a lot easier than she adapted to Android.

28:13 iOS and Mac OS have so little in common that it's

28:15 kind of shocking to me they come from the same company.

28:18 But widgets on the desktop.

28:21 I was off like working on something else for a second and she just like set up

28:24 a ton of widgets for herself and kind

28:26 of like organized her desktop the way that she wanted.

28:28 I was like okay cool.

28:30 That wouldn't have been natural to me at all.

28:31 Um, and there was one of her apps where the like

28:35 native app support for Mac OS is kind of crap,

28:39 but uh when you click on the widget,

28:43 it just launches um I don't know what it's actually called,

28:47 but it just launches like her phone on her Mac.

28:51 Yeah.

28:51 Screen mirroring.

28:52 Yeah.

28:52 And it just launches that up and then she just

28:54 uses the phone version of the app and it's totally fine.

28:57 And it's like, okay, she figured out all of that on her own.

29:00 Sweet.

29:00 So that that part kind of worked.

29:03 There are a couple things about Mac OS that weren't entirely intuitive,

29:05 but we ended up figuring it out.

29:07 Um, and then the just the laptop itself, like dude,

29:11 if you if you hand this to either of us three months ago or whatever,

29:17 ask at least minimum minimum.

29:20 And probably more than that.

29:22 Yeah.

29:22 Like, got him.

29:24 Damn.

29:25 Okay, but here's a funny one.

29:27 Dan, roll the clip.

29:33 If I had a nickel for every time this has happened to me, I'd have two nickels,

29:42 which isn't a lot, but it's funny.

29:46 It's happened twice.

29:48 How, DUDE?

29:56 How is that even possible?

29:58 I don't know.

29:59 How do you do this?

30:00 I don't do anything.

30:07 Oh my god.

30:10 Oh man.

30:12 I don't know how to deal with this anymore.

30:15 It's like I I have this reputation I feel for like being a hater, you know,

30:20 like complaining that everything's a buggy piece of It's like,

30:24 Adam and I'm so legitimately happy that it's working great for you,

30:30 but it doesn't change my experience.

30:35 That's so funny.

30:36 We even installed Steam.

30:40 I'm sure you did.

30:43 Ah, man.

30:43 That's really funny.

30:45 Sofa says, "Thank you for getting footage." I have I have some

30:48 I have a pretty I have a I have pretty good footage.

30:50 It's not on this phone, but I have pretty good footage of my screen on my uh

30:54 my folding phone registering clicks offset

30:57 by about a centimeter as well, like regularly.

31:00 Like, dude, I just I get I get so much weird I get so much weird stuff.

31:06 Here's a fun one.

31:07 And um someone I know um pulled up their Samsung was it a Samsung?

31:13 Ooh, I don't know if it was actually a Samsung,

31:15 but it was a uh definitely a folding phone.

31:18 and um compared.

31:21 Oh, okay.

31:22 LT store.

31:22 We have new stuff.

31:23 Uh we'll we'll get to that in a second.

31:25 First, let's uh click on one of these products.

31:28 Uh oh, what the He clicked so aggressively.

31:30 Sorry.

31:31 There you go.

31:32 I get duplicates of our product photos on our site.

31:37 And his folding phone didn't get it.

31:40 That's strange.

31:41 I don't I don't understand.

31:43 I don't know how to deal with this stuff.

31:45 That might not be a problem for long.

31:48 I don't know if you want to announce that or not, but I'll just leave it.

31:51 Announce what?

31:52 I don't know.

31:52 I don't know.

31:53 Sure.

31:53 Go for it.

31:54 I don't know.

31:54 The new site.

31:56 Oh, yeah.

31:56 Yeah.

31:56 Yeah.

31:57 So, there's a new LT store site.

31:58 Yeah.

31:58 Yeah.

31:58 Yeah.

31:58 I think we've I think we've talked about that.

32:00 Okay.

32:00 I have no idea.

32:05 Um

32:04 but in in like semiclassic fashion,

32:07 development on the old site is not super attractive right now.

32:11 Oh, I get it.

32:13 So, I get it.

32:13 It is what it is.

32:15 Yeah.

32:15 Anyway, we can move on to another topic.

32:17 You want to pick one?

32:19 Sure.

32:19 So much good stuff.

32:20 This Steam one, dude.

32:22 This is so sick.

32:23 Steam client files point to frame rate estimator feature in the works.

32:27 Data miners were sifting through a recent Steam client file release,

32:31 and they uncovered references to a new feature called the frame rate estimator,

32:36 which would let you pick a game, input your CPU, GPU, and RAM.

32:39 I also suspect eventually if you do the hardware survey,

32:44 it will just have that information.

32:47 your display resolution.

32:49 Yeah.

32:49 If you do the hardware thing.

32:51 Yeah.

32:51 Uh and you can get a a chart of expected frame

32:54 rates based on crowdsource data from other Steam users running similar hardware.

32:59 The groundwork appears to have been laid 2 months

33:01 ago when Valve added an opt-in option in the Steam

33:05 beta client that let users share anonymized frame rate data

33:09 initially focused on Steam OS devices like the Steam Deck.

33:12 Um, at the time Valve said that the data

33:14 was meant to improve game compatibility and Steam performance.

33:18 Valve is not officially Valve has not officially announced the feature,

33:22 confirmed a release timeline or really anything at all.

33:25 Um, but yeah, it exists as unreleased code and it sounds awesome to me.

33:32 This would legitimately Okay, I was about to say in a vendor agnostic fashion,

33:40 but it's not it's not vendor agnostic.

33:43 It's it's Steam,

33:45 but they actually technically very specifically now have

33:47 their own operating system which really throws that.

33:50 But for me, this would pretty much address the problem of, you know,

33:57 minimum requirements and what graphics card should I get

34:01 and what CPU should I get to play this game or this is amazing.

34:04 Should I should I buy this?

34:05 And I don't know.

34:07 I I'd like to think that maybe this had something to do with some

34:11 of the feedback that I gave Valve

34:12 a little while ago on the Steam hardware survey.

34:15 It's been about a year, so they've legitimately had time.

34:18 But basically, I said, "Hey guys, I love the hardware survey.

34:22 It's really cool, but there are some aspects

34:25 of it that are kind of antiquated now.

34:27 If the goal is for developers to understand

34:30 what hardware they should be targeting and if

34:32 the other goal is for users to understand

34:35 what kind of performance they can expect,

34:37 then only reporting things like the number of cores,

34:43 the frequency that they run at, and I I believe it even does it cap

34:46 at quad core or uh I don't even think it will don't quote me on that.

34:50 The granularity is fairly limited from what I remember for core count.

34:54 And then especially frequency.

34:56 What I pointed out to them is I gave them examples of CPUs that were released uh

35:01 oh yeah 10 years apart that have the same core

35:04 count and the same frequency but vastly different performance.

35:09 Um and kind of laid out why we need a little bit better

35:13 granularity with respect to the generation

35:16 of the hardware that we're looking at.

35:18 Um, and that would be beneficial to everybody, users,

35:22 game developers, realistically Valve themselves, and selfishly media who,

35:29 you know, we will often lean on Steam hardware

35:32 survey data in order to bring the most relevant content.

35:36 like um I don't remember a single GPU review scrum that hasn't

35:42 involved pulling up the Steam hardware survey at some point to just

35:45 just to have the right reference points like oh okay you

35:49 know blah blah blah let's do this this this and this holy

35:52 crap 6% of people on Steam are running a 3060

35:56 we should throw that in just for context so that 5%

35:59 of the people watching can go oh this is how it

36:01 compares to exactly my GPU right now that's really important to us.

36:06 And so I would I'd like to think that they took that seriously.

36:11 Realistically, Valve has very smart people working there.

36:14 And I'm sure somebody thought of it, but you know what?

36:18 I'm going to give myself.1% of the credit.

36:23 You think, can I get away with that?

36:25 I don't know.

36:25 We'll see.

36:26 If if it happens, maybe that that credit will have some value.

36:30 1% 1,000th.

36:32 Can I get away with it?

36:33 I don't know.

36:33 I can't guarantee anything.

36:35 Uh I'm looking here and yeah the for CPUs specifically it's still kind of

36:41 Yep.

36:41 This is not 3.7 GHz and above really

36:45 and no we do have exact core count so that is useful

36:47 but the frequency is a is a major issue in my humble opinion 2.7% of users

36:58 with 24 cores 24 uh but I believe that's logical so that would

37:02 be 12 core CPUs if I recall correctly.

37:03 Check 30.

37:04 Check 30.

37:05 Physical CPUs.

37:06 Oh, is that physical?

37:06 Oh, okay.

37:07 So, those would be thread rippers then.

37:08 Yeah.

37:10 Really?

37:10 2.74% of users are thread rippers.

37:12 That's Wait, wait, wait, wait.

37:13 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

37:14 No, that would be um Intel uh Intel 24 cores.

37:18 Yep, that's Intel.

37:21 So, that would be like 14900 KS and stuff.

37:26 Oh, yeah.

37:25 Eight performance cores, 16 efficiency cores.

37:28 Yeah, sorry.

37:28 Oh, see, but even that bundling in efficiency cores with physical.

37:34 Exactly.

37:35 There's just there's so much more granularity gives me the ick

37:38 that that we could use to make more informed decisions.

37:41 Either way, I am I am excited to see Valve build out their tools beyond just

37:47 their one their one console for the benefit

37:50 of all PC gamers that are using the Steam platform.

37:54 Do you need me to go back to your laptop?

37:55 Well, I was interested.

37:56 This is This is certainly too old,

37:58 but I'm really interested what happens to the OSX numbers in the near future.

38:04 I just think it's funny they still call it OS 10.

38:06 I don't think it's been called OS 10 for like a thousand years.

38:10 Sure, but I like the the Oh, man.

38:15 Okay, I want to I want to look this up.

38:16 Google search history for like running games on Mac cuz these are

38:22 selling like freaking crazy and they can run a ton of stuff.

38:25 Like it can run Cyberpunk.

38:27 I was looking up for my dad to see if it could and it can run SnowRunner.

38:30 Like it can actually run a lot of different random Steam games.

38:33 It can run Cyberpunk.

38:35 I played it today.

38:36 It's not a great experience.

38:37 15 to 30.

38:40 Uh yeah,

38:41 that's pretty good.

38:42 It's good for things considered.

38:44 Yeah, it's good for what it is.

38:46 Um hold on.

38:47 I'm going to go worldwide uh last uh I don't know.

38:51 Sure.

38:52 2004 to present.

38:53 Here we go.

38:55 Damn.

38:57 Oh, wait for it.

39:04 Wait for it.

39:07 Ready, Dan?

39:09 Dang.

39:09 This is what I'm saying, man.

39:13 Yep.

39:12 Dang.

39:13 So, like it's like these laptops matter.

39:15 They're making they're making a huge impact right now.

39:18 And that's going to apply to gamers and which

39:20 is actually really really interesting for the overall

39:25 like because when I'm looking at it now

39:27 for March 2026 Windows saw a 4.28% drop in user

39:32 share and the vast majority of that went to Linux but 1.2% of that went to Mac

39:36 and then we have these laptops coming out

39:39 and there's the Linux surge seems to be continuing.

39:41 I see threads about it constantly talking about pal people.

39:44 Wow, I haven't used this in a few years.

39:45 I gave it a shot for whatever reason.

39:47 Maybe it was us.

39:47 maybe something else and it's working right now.

39:49 Tons of trends about that.

39:51 And then also these laptops are moving like crazy and Windows is

39:54 getting Windows at least for gamers is getting hit on both sides.

39:58 I think there's a chance that Windows falls

40:00 below 90% of the install base for Steam in the next Yeah.

40:05 Do you think it could happen this year?

40:06 For sure.

40:06 I I think if Apple had an unlimited supply of A18 Pros, I would say yes.

40:13 I agree 100%.

40:14 Yeah.

40:14 Yeah.

40:15 If they only have six 7 million of them, then I'm not I'm not as sure.

40:22 I'm not as sure.

40:23 But that is wild that Windows might be less

40:27 than 90% of market share for for for Steam.

40:33 That's Wait, are they going to fall behind like Nvidia?

40:36 I'm gonna be I'm gonna be I'm going

40:38 to be writing a video next week that tentatively

40:41 is titled the humiliation of Microsoft Windows or Windows's

40:46 year of humiliation or something something along those lines.

40:49 It might not be the year of the this is not a title but it might

40:52 not be the year of the Linux desktop

40:53 but it definitely is the year of Windows humiliation.

40:57 Yeah.

40:57 and just kind of talking through how how tenuous how how dominant their market

41:03 share still is and yet how tenuous

41:06 their position is becoming if that makes sense.

41:09 And I'm going to kind of talk through um some

41:12 of the overall trends that we're observing both in the Linux

41:14 world and the Mac world and simultaneously amongst Windows

41:19 users who are just so tired of it, you know.

41:24 Yeah, it's exhausting.

41:26 Uh why don't we jump into uh why don't we pick a good news topic?

41:32 Hey, that's any topic.

41:34 Nintendo in a shockingly pro-consumer move like I did.

41:45 Wow.

41:46 Um has divorced digital and physical game pricing.

41:53 Um, the complete quote is from a Games Radar

41:57 article and this is uh this is a quote.

41:59 My guess that is that this is actually them lowering prices

42:02 of digital games and not raising the price of physical games.

42:04 That's where I'm at with this.

42:06 I think generally no I don't agree with this part.

42:08 Nintendo tries to do right by their customers

42:10 and I think they do also disagree with that.

42:12 I look at this as a proconsumer move.

42:14 I think it's a smart move, too.

42:17 But it does appear to be that Nintendo will be decoupling

42:23 physical and digital pricing.

42:25 We don't know that this means that digital pricing is going

42:28 to go down and all the pricing is going to stay the same.

42:30 We don't know that.

42:31 That is just an assumption.

42:32 It could be that hardware that physical game pricing will go up.

42:37 But given that they already increased pricing for the Switch 2 generation,

42:42 given that given that they've allegedly cut production of the Switch 2,

42:47 my guess is that they're looking at their business.

42:50 They're looking at their business going, "Okay,

42:53 we've got some good titles for Switch 2.

42:56 They're very expensive.

42:58 How can we address this in a way that doesn't that isn't

43:02 a price drop that doesn't devalue our software which Nintendo never wants to do?

43:08 But that but that's that's kind of what I'm saying is it would be a price drop

43:12 but only on the digital copy.

43:14 Yeah.

43:14 So to me, the way that I'm reading

43:17 this, and maybe this is maybe this is hopeful,

43:20 good news, April Wan, show Lionus, reading it this way,

43:22 but the way that I'm reading this is that Nintendo

43:26 is going to be the first to blink and go,

43:31 "All right, digital's cheaper and I'm here for it." Or maybe

43:37 not maybe not the maybe not the first to blink.

43:39 I mean, there's certainly no doubt that you can

43:41 buy a PlayStation game on sale on the, you know,

43:44 PlayStation store for cheaper than a physical copy at, you know,

43:46 GameStop or whatever.

43:47 I mean, it is pretty cool,

43:49 but Nintendo for the first time going, "Okay, yeah, it's it's cheaper online."

43:56 Yeah.

43:56 And it always should have been probably.

43:59 I mean, I think there was maybe an argument in the early days of Steam

44:04 that this infrastructure was so new and the investment

44:08 in it was so colossal and the value

44:12 free and the value of cloud save

44:13 and the the convenience of just downloading it whenever

44:15 you know maybe there was an argument to be made at that time but I

44:19 think in the years after that it's been pretty hard to justify the price being

44:26 the same for a digital copy of a brand new title versus a physical copy.

44:31 Yeah, you can't you can't completely remove all

44:33 the cost of making the physical copy because

44:36 there is expense in keeping the infrastructure up

44:40 of distributing digital copies and stuff like that.

44:42 But like man, they are not even sort of close.

44:45 Uh Aroine actually brings up another kind of um I don't know about good news,

44:49 but certainly funny news.

44:50 Uh Nintendo lost the patent covering character summoning and battle mechanics.

44:55 Did you see that?

44:56 like the the the Pokeball patent and No Man's

44:59 Sky apparently immediately added the mechanic to the game.

45:01 They did.

45:02 Yeah.

45:05 Yeah.

45:04 Uh look, I my relationship with Nintendo as a brand is deeply complicated.

45:12 There's so many things they do.

45:14 I don't like you and I'll also buy everything you make.

45:16 That if they were anyone but them, I would um I would just patently,

45:22 pun intended, refuse to buy anything from them.

45:26 But on the other hand, like

45:29 I don't I don't know of anyone who so lovingly cares for their IPs.

45:37 With that said, I haven't seen the new Mario movie yet.

45:40 Um, many of the reviews I've read of it were very negative.

45:44 However, however, however, I did my due diligence and I went back and read

45:49 the same people's reviews of the first one and they were also negative,

45:54 which to me is just an indication that they're

45:57 probably not a lot of fun at parties

45:59 and the kind of people that suck the life out

46:00 of the room because the first one was just fun.

46:04 Not everything has to be that deep, man.

46:07 Maybe I just need an excuse to eat popcorn.

46:10 And if as long as the second one is a good excuse to eat popcorn,

46:14 I think I'm going to be pretty happy with it.

46:16 Nice.

46:17 All right.

46:18 I want to go see a movie in theaters for the first time in many years.

46:22 I want to go see Hail Mary.

46:24 Oh, yeah.

46:24 Yeah.

46:24 Yeah.

46:25 Yeah.

46:25 Yeah.

46:25 I want to see that, too.

46:27 There's actually there's quite a few uh kind of interesting movies right now.

46:30 My son really wants to see Goat.

46:32 I have no idea.

46:33 Sports movie, but like animated with a with a goat.

46:36 Like greatest of all time, but also a goat.

46:37 I

46:38 No, I put that together.

46:41 Yeah.

46:40 Oh my god.

46:41 Is it like this generation's Airbud?

46:46 I don't know exactly what it is, but he's excited about it,

46:48 which uh you know is cool, I guess.

46:54 Who is it done by?

46:57 Um

46:56 Sony Pictures Animation, man.

46:58 Where the heck is Disney

47:02 and like all these other It's Anyway, sorry.

47:04 We can move on to something else, but that's is uh we can talk about Netflix.

47:08 Here's a fun one.

47:11 Netflix, get owned.

47:13 Luke and I have talked about this extensively on the WAN show.

47:17 We've taken what I feel is not necessarily it shouldn't

47:24 be an exceptional approach to the subscription fees on Flowplane.

47:28 Whatever you agree to when you sign up is our agreement.

47:34 And while technically for some reason platforms

47:39 are within their rights to alter the deal,

47:42 pray I don't alter it any further, we've never taken that approach.

47:46 And it looks like Netflix was just informed

47:50 that in Italy you're supposed to do it

47:52 the float plane way unless you explicitly say

47:56 that you have the right to do it your way.

47:58 An Italian court in Rome has

48:00 ruled that Netflix's subscription price increases between,

48:04 get this, 2017 to 2024 over a span

48:08 of 7 years were illegal under the country's consumer code,

48:13 which requires companies to provide

48:14 a stated justified reason before raising prices.

48:20 Netflix now has 90 days to notify its roughly 5.4 4 million Italian

48:25 subscribers of their right to a refund or face a €700 daily fine.

48:32 Lawyers for the consumer group Muimento Consumtorio,

48:38 sorry I'm sure I butchered that, estimate that premium subscribers who

48:41 have been paying since 2017 are entitled to roughly €500 each.

48:48 Wa!

48:47 While standard subscribers are owed about €250.

48:51 That's That's like That's like tidy little tax return territory.

48:58 Like that's not that's that's not pocket change.

49:00 That's freaking crazy.

49:02 That's go get yourself something nice.

49:03 If every eligible unfortunately

49:05 if every eligible subscriber claims this, Netflix's

49:08 total liability could exceed $2.3 billion.

49:12 On top of the refunds,

49:13 the court ordered Netflix to roll monthly prices back to the 2015 launch levels.

49:19 €1199 euros for premium,9.99 euro for standard.

49:24 Sounds like a lot of people are gonna be VPNing to Italy.

49:27 Netflix says it will appeal and insists

49:30 that its terms have always complied with Italian law,

49:32 but the ruling could have a knock-on effect across Europe.

49:35 Consumer groups in Germany, Spain, the Netherlands,

49:38 and Poland have filed parallel challenges on the same legal basis,

49:41 and German courts in Berlin and Cologne have

49:44 already struck down the same Netflix pricing clauses.

49:47 Now, it is worth noting that Netflix has

49:50 updated their terms of service now and any

49:52 price changes that they implement going forward

49:55 will be legal from my understanding of it.

49:58 That's not in our notes,

49:59 but that is my understanding of it from just my own reading before.

50:02 Um, but this is still a a pretty nice little, you know,

50:08 a nice little W for consumers in Italy who are tired of, you know,

50:14 getting squeezed on every freaking stupid subscription service under the sun,

50:18 just casually casually raising prices all the time.

50:22 Um, it's good news, WAN show.

50:24 So, this isn't one of the topics for this week, but uh,

50:27 YouTube had a had a premium subscription increase that, you know,

50:32 just I don't know, it's that premium subscription increase uh,

50:35 like last time they say it's to improve

50:38 the service and like last time it seems to be

50:40 more aligned with just general inflation and less aligned

50:44 with any kind of meaningful improvement in the service.

50:47 So,

50:49 make of that whatever you will.

50:50 I still, even at the new price, I still think YouTube Premium is one

50:53 of the best bang for the buck subscriptions out there.

50:56 YouTube is full of incredible content.

50:58 Uh, I'd like to think like you're watching right now.

51:01 I use it so much that it's worth it to me still.

51:03 And the fact that it includes YouTube Music,

51:04 which I find to be a perfectly chulant music streaming service, it's fine.

51:09 And the fact that you can get it on a family plan

51:11 for a deep discount and share it with up to five family members.

51:16 It's just it's it's a great it's a great value.

51:19 It's an outstanding value.

51:22 All right.

51:22 You want to pick one?

51:24 Oh, wait.

51:24 No.

51:25 Oh, I'm good.

51:26 Oh.

51:26 Oh.

51:27 Oh, guys.

51:28 Guys, that uh pull up the store, right?

51:32 Um we have a very exciting launch on LT store this weekend.

51:38 It is the flex and flow collection.

51:43 The first item from this collection is our multi-pocket leggings.

51:48 They're finally here.

51:51 We started development of LTT um I don't want to call them yoga pants,

51:57 but they're yoga pants.

51:58 LTT leggings like I don't know 3 years ago or something like that.

52:04 Um, I am constantly reminded of this project

52:07 because Ivonne loves her prototype ones so

52:10 much that I fold them every week even though we never actually made the product.

52:17 Um, so you're going to get more now.

52:20 They're just like the leggings that you know you could

52:23 get at one of the other stores that sell these leggings.

52:26 Let's be real, right?

52:27 Except they've got seven total pockets.

52:31 two on the thighs for your phone

52:33 and five in the waistband for your smaller stuff,

52:36 so you can actually carry your things without needing a bag.

52:40 The fabric is soft, breathable,

52:42 and moisture wicking with Lycrest spandex for great stretch and shape retention,

52:46 so you can wear them for workouts, errands, or just all day.

52:50 People in the office have been really excited about

52:52 these, and they've already been wearing them to Pilates,

52:54 tennis, and just around the house.

52:56 You can now get yours at lmg.gg/leggings.

53:00 And I'm gonna take a moment to kind of go, hey,

53:05 our women viewers out there, we hear you loud and clear.

53:09 You've been disappointed with the assortment of women's products on LT store.

53:16 Here's your chance to help us invest in this category.

53:20 This is a great product.

53:22 whether you wear leggings or not,

53:25 spread the word or wait for a few reviews to come in and then spread the word.

53:31 It's a really good product.

53:32 It is, I would say, up to or at the top

53:35 of our game in terms of how quality this product is.

53:38 Um, if you want to see more women's products, you're going to have to buy some.

53:45 There's also I saw people in full chat earlier asking about like,

53:48 "Oh, I fit uh whatever size from whatever brand." Yes.

53:53 Um will I fit these ones?

53:55 There is

53:56 a size guide.

53:58 So um right here, some people don't see it cuz it's just like hyperlink text,

54:03 but under the sizes on pretty much every product on the store,

54:06 there's a size guide.

54:07 You can click it and it will be Yeah.

54:10 A lot of like the the pictures and stuff are are generic,

54:13 but this grid will be for the specific product.

54:17 So, you can see your inseam length, your hip width,

54:19 your your pants, blah blah blah, waist, relaxed, whatever, something.

54:24 And all your sizes that go along with that.

54:26 Yep.

54:27 Very important.

54:28 All right.

54:29 These ones are for the guys.

54:31 These are great.

54:32 The flex pants.

54:33 They're kind of inspired by like mountain biking pants.

54:37 So, they are built to move.

54:39 We've got reinforced knees, a gusseted fit,

54:42 and a stretchy waistband with a do not drop draw

54:44 cord that can be tied on the outside or the inside.

54:49 And they've also got seven pockets, six with YKK zippers,

54:53 so you can carry basically everything and not worry about anything falling out.

54:58 They're really comfortable.

54:59 They uh in like a weird way, like they're not soft.

55:03 They're like um shear.

55:04 Oh, here.

55:06 Right.

55:08 I don't really know how to describe them.

55:10 They're like a

55:11 Oh, interesting.

55:13 Yeah.

55:13 And they're on the inside.

55:15 They're like uh

55:18 I don't know.

55:18 I don't know how to describe them.

55:19 I can see that they're nice,

55:20 but I understand what you mean by that being a little bit.

55:23 Yeah.

55:23 So, kind of like um kind of like some of the French terry hoodies.

55:26 Like they're they're soft, but they don't sit like right on your skin.

55:30 So, they're not super warming.

55:31 Not like terry at all, though.

55:32 I don't want someone to hear that and get the the raw.

55:35 But the the effect is like that where it's

55:37 it kind of it kind of holds off your skin

55:40 a little bit so it makes it feel more breathable

55:43 uh but still not not cold like it's still you know

55:46 I don't know there it's a it's a really cool garment.

55:49 Sure.

55:50 Do they fit you?

55:50 Uh I don't think they would cuz these are a small.

55:53 They're No, the the inseam length on all of them is 29.

55:58 Um

55:58 sorry these are not in tall.

56:02 Yeah.

56:01 It's pretty normal to have a 32, but okay.

56:06 All right.

56:06 So, those are those are pretty exciting new products.

56:09 Uh, and now is a great time to order one because if you're new to the WAN show,

56:14 then I'm about to explain the coolest

56:16 thing about the it's not the coolest thing,

56:18 but it's a cool thing about the WAN show.

56:20 Instead of like other streams,

56:22 just throwing your money at the screen and like I don't know,

56:26 hoping senpai notices you or something.

56:29 Uh, we don't do Twitch bits or super chats or anything like that.

56:32 We do checkout messages.

56:34 So, if you want to send a message, all you got to do is head to ltstore.com,

56:39 add something to your cart, and when we are live,

56:42 you will see the interface to send a checkout message.

56:45 You pick your color, you fill in your checkout message, you can be anonymous,

56:49 or show your first and last name,

56:51 and once you place your order, it will either go up there.

56:55 It'll just pop up like, "Thanks, Richie P over there." Um, oh no.

56:58 It'll go to producer Dan who will pop it up like that, reply to it,

57:02 or curate it for me and Luke to respond to.

57:05 Should we do a couple curated ones to show the folks how it works?

57:08 Yeah, sure.

57:08 I got lots here already.

57:10 Thanks for enabling my wife to get some highquality active wear.

57:14 As for my question, what's the worst part of dealing with asbestous removal?

57:18 The price.

57:20 Besides the price, was that in the checkout message?

57:27 Yeah.

57:27 I thought that's why you jumped in with that.

57:30 No, the worst part is the price.

57:32 Nothing worse.

57:33 Uh, well,

57:33 it's not the asbestous getting into your lungs and giving a mess of urine oil.

57:36 Well, that's the thing is I didn't do that.

57:37 I paid someone to do it.

57:38 So, the worst part is the price.

57:40 I mean, I'd say my bigger concern when I was

57:43 crawling around in the basement was like mold, not asbestous.

57:47 Like, if I if I end up with some kind of weird

57:49 mold lung disease or something like that, it's definitely from doing that.

57:53 But I don't think there was really anything in the way of asbestous down there.

57:58 Yeah.

57:58 And I didn't really disturb anything like I

58:00 didn't I didn't break any I didn't like touch

58:03 any cocking or like uh break any uh like

58:06 like um uh break any materials apart or anything.

58:10 I just like hauled like soggy carpet and stuff out of there.

58:15 Okay.

58:15 Up next, just finished a computer vision project for school.

58:19 What is a project that felt super rewarding after completing?

58:25 I have a pretty critical version of that, which is the mineral oil computer.

58:28 That thing got me everything.

58:31 It got me grants to go to school.

58:33 It got me friends when I was at school.

58:34 And it got me this job.

58:37 That was a highly rewarding project.

58:42 Nice.

58:42 Really worked out.

58:43 Yeah, that's uh um I'm not going to be I'm not going to be able to beat that.

58:49 hiring Luke.

58:50 Really?

58:51 Yeah.

58:52 Yeah.

58:52 Is that a present project?

58:54 Let's go for the feels.

58:55 I mean, it was a long interview.

58:57 It was a very long interview.

58:59 Yeah, that's true.

59:01 Yeah.

59:02 Uh, super a project that felt super rewarding.

59:05 You know what?

59:06 I'm I'm not going to go with like the most rewarding,

59:08 but I'll go with one that was quite rewarding recently.

59:11 Um, I bought a couple of RC cars for me and my son back when he was well,

59:17 it was like 10 years ago,

59:18 so he was just little and I was I was probably jumping the gun a little bit.

59:22 We didn't use them much and they sat for 10 years.

59:24 And in that time, all the differential fluid leaked out.

59:28 All the shock oil leaked out.

59:30 Um, the batteries like died died like not just were were drained.

59:35 They they died.

59:36 And um uh there were some broken parts

59:39 on them from the little that they were used cuz

59:42 I was reckless and he didn't know really how

59:44 to control it cuz he was just a little kid.

59:46 And over the last few weekends we've worked together.

59:49 We learned how to uh strip apart uh reseal and uh fill a a diff on an RC car.

59:57 We fixed up the shocks.

59:59 We replaced a bunch of like broken pieces.

1:00:02 And then um with everything repaired, we went out,

1:00:05 made like a makeshift ramp, and uh we're playing around with it last weekend.

1:00:08 It was super cool.

1:00:15 I crossed the pool cover with some water pulled on it, burned my motor.

1:00:21 So, um we're not quite there on the reward on this project yet,

1:00:26 but we're we're getting there.

1:00:27 We're getting there.

1:00:28 Cuz it was really fun.

1:00:28 working on it though cuz you're working on repairing

1:00:30 it with your son which is like so valuable.

1:00:34 Yeah, he's learning a little bit.

1:00:35 Really cool.

1:00:36 Um we we had to 3D we had to make like design and print

1:00:39 some 3D printed parts in order to finish the repair cuz it was like

1:00:42 Did he like lead that portion?

1:00:45 Mhm.

1:00:45 Yeah.

1:00:45 That's kind of cool.

1:00:46 Oh yeah.

1:00:46 I I got to show him how to use calipers,

1:00:49 you know, just I don't just father son stuff, you know.

1:00:51 Yeah.

1:00:52 Yeah.

1:00:52 That's sweet.

1:00:52 Yeah.

1:00:52 It's good stuff.

1:00:53 It's good stuff.

1:00:55 I like that.

1:00:58 Should we do one more down?

1:00:58 Oh, no, we're not.

1:00:59 We're doing two more topics.

1:01:00 You can do one more if you want.

1:01:01 Nope, I don't want to.

1:01:02 We'll do it later.

1:01:03 Good.

1:01:03 Got away.

1:01:05 Hey, let's talk about Lan Linux.

1:01:08 The French government is apparently accelerating plans to reduce reliance

1:01:14 on extra European software in an effort to achieve digital sovereignty.

1:01:19 And when I say extra European, I don't mean super duper European.

1:01:23 I mean outside of European like like extracurricular

1:01:27 that like that sort of extra workstations at Denham DINUM

1:01:32 the French government's digital agency will be the first

1:01:34 to be moved to an as yet unnamed Linux distribution.

1:01:38 My notes say insert holy war here.

1:01:43 Yeah.

1:01:44 And other departments including the National

1:01:46 Cyber Security Agency will be following suit.

1:01:49 Okay.

1:01:50 All right.

1:01:50 Let's start it.

1:01:54 I already Okay, hold on.

1:01:55 I know my answer.

1:01:56 I know my answer.

1:01:57 Hold on.

1:01:57 Hold on.

1:01:58 Um, hold on.

1:02:03 Hold on.

1:02:04 Um, I'm going to go with um Okay, go ahead.

1:02:20 Um, hold on, hold on.

1:02:26 Mandrea, I think that was it.

1:02:28 Mandrea.

1:02:29 Mandrea.

1:02:29 I don't know how to pronounce it.

1:02:30 I looked at I looked up I was looking up dros before the show.

1:02:34 I was like, are there dros that are either

1:02:36 popular in France or largely maintained by French maintainers?

1:02:41 That's hacking.

1:02:41 You can't search stuff.

1:02:42 I had to just guess.

1:02:43 All right, fine.

1:02:44 Well, I don't know.

1:02:45 I could still definitely be wrong.

1:02:46 I have no clue.

1:02:47 I I think I think they're going to be

1:02:49 based and they're actually going to roll their own.

1:02:52 They wouldn't be the first government to do that.

1:02:54 And I think it's going to be based on Arch Mandreas or me Media or something.

1:03:00 Yeah, I know.

1:03:01 Can you just show me this word?

1:03:02 No, I What is this?

1:03:07 Oh,

1:03:07 M A G E I A.

1:03:09 I'm not any closer than you.

1:03:11 Maga.

1:03:12 Sure.

1:03:12 Something.

1:03:12 I don't know.

1:03:13 Um I I read something.

1:03:14 Yeah, that's the successor.

1:03:16 Whatever.

1:03:16 I don't know, classic Linux stuff.

1:03:18 It's not Mangaro.

1:03:19 I can I can say that.

1:03:22 Um, I have no idea what it'll be.

1:03:25 If you look at userbased installs,

1:03:27 it's very likely that it will be, you know, DBN based or Archbased.

1:03:36 People are suggesting names for a French government own Linux distro.

1:03:42 We've got Baguette OS.

1:03:44 We've got um Dro of Liberty, Linu Linux Arch Driump.

1:03:49 We've got um Dro de Liberty Bestie OS.

1:03:56 That's pretty good.

1:03:57 That one's pretty good.

1:03:58 I like that.

1:03:59 I'm I'm I'm liking a lot of these.

1:04:00 I'm liking a lot of these.

1:04:07 That is pretty good.

1:04:11 Oh man.

1:04:12 Oh man.

1:04:13 Um,

1:04:15 that's fun.

1:04:16 Uh, yeah.

1:04:17 I

1:04:18 I wouldn't mind Sakray Boon, too.

1:04:23 I I hope they I hope they don't roll their own.

1:04:26 Or if they do roll their own,

1:04:27 I hope there's a lot of uh up the chain development that happens.

1:04:32 I just, man, we don't need more fragmentation.

1:04:35 Oh my god.

1:04:36 No, we don't need it,

1:04:36 but it just seems like the kind of thing that would happen.

1:04:39 If you look at the Steam hardware survey in regards to dros

1:04:43 that are like on the more simple and easy side of things,

1:04:47 Mint has a lot of install base.

1:04:49 I don't suspect they're going to end up going there.

1:04:52 My my guess would be is that they don't end up on Mint.

1:04:55 Um, but we'll see.

1:04:58 I could see Red Hat, something like that.

1:05:00 Just something something with actual Red Hat, Fedora,

1:05:03 like real support grunt behind it.

1:05:06 Totally.

1:05:06 Yep.

1:05:07 that would that would probably make the the most sense.

1:05:10 Something along that line uh being said

1:05:12 by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about,

1:05:14 but still Red Hat is American though.

1:05:19 That might be fair.

1:05:21 I'm not sure if it matters as much.

1:05:24 I don't think it matters as much,

1:05:25 but there's still a company behind it and that company's in the States, right?

1:05:29 Yes.

1:05:29 Zusay is an open is Zusay is a is is a more

1:05:32 European centric and still very wellsupported and storied dro as well.

1:05:38 That could that could get it.

1:05:39 Yeah, I think there I think the origin there is German.

1:05:42 U definitely get it though.

1:05:44 That's interesting.

1:05:46 I don't know but it's exciting and there's there is a question here.

1:05:49 Uh we've seen similar programs elsewhere in Europe with the city of Munich's uh

1:05:53 limuk uh project running from 2003 to 2017

1:05:58 before they ultimately decided to reverse course.

1:06:00 Do you think France's efforts will be successful?

1:06:03 And I think they actually could be um the the difference between

1:06:10 I know I've said this probably every W show for a month,

1:06:13 but the difference between the last time we

1:06:15 did the Linux challenge and now is genuinely mind-blowing.

1:06:18 It's astronomical.

1:06:22 Whoa.

1:06:25 What?

1:06:24 Linux Mint has a French founder.

1:06:27 Really?

1:06:27 Someone in chat just said it.

1:06:28 I don't know if it's true or not, but someone in chat just said it.

1:06:30 If that's true, if there's a chance that it's Mint, that would be so sick.

1:06:35 That would be so cool.

1:06:38 You are actually rooting for Dros like a Linux dude now.

1:06:41 No, I'd just be happy.

1:06:42 I You clapped.

1:06:44 You clapped.

1:06:45 Happy.

1:06:46 That is the definition.

1:06:47 Happy little collapse.

1:06:48 That is the definition.

1:06:49 I'm happy.

1:06:49 I'm genuinely happy with whatever they go with.

1:06:51 I I don't actually care.

1:06:53 But it would be neat if it was Mint.

1:06:57 I just I I I'm not a I'm not a hater of other choices,

1:07:00 but I I get a little happy when when people use Mint because Mint is cool.

1:07:04 Speaking of Linux, patches to the Linux kernel and KDE should

1:07:09 give a noticeable performance boost to gamers with limited VRAM, which sick 2026

1:07:18 apparently includes cards that have only 8 GB of dedicated memory.

1:07:23 And that really has been a trend over the last couple of years.

1:07:26 Developer Natalie Voc has refined kernel level memory management and introduced

1:07:32 a KDE plasma component to enable

1:07:33 VRAMm prioritization for the foreground application i.e.

1:07:38 your full screen game.

1:07:39 The patches are out now initially for AMD and theoretically

1:07:43 Intel uh on Cache OS and on other archbased dros.

1:07:47 If you don't use KDE as your desktop, the improvements are also available

1:07:51 in newer versions of Valve's Gamecope compositor.

1:07:54 If you're after the technical details,

1:07:56 you can check out the developers blog post,

1:07:58 which um Dan will not be posting in chat,

1:08:05 so you'll just have to go uh Google pixel clusters GPU blog.

1:08:10 I can post it in float plane chat at least.

1:08:12 Thank you, Luke.

1:08:13 That's wonderful.

1:08:14 I appreciate you.

1:08:16 Excellent.

1:08:17 Um, it says two more topics and we're through two more,

1:08:21 but until he comes back, we're not Oh, you know what?

1:08:24 Yeah, we'll do sponsor spots.

1:08:26 Oh, wait.

1:08:26 I can't I can't without I did have some people ask like, "Oh,

1:08:29 why are you so happy about Mint?" If you're running Cashy,

1:08:31 I'm running Cashy on my desktop PC for the modern Cache and KDE

1:08:35 on my desktop PC for modern features and performance and power and raw.

1:08:40 And I'm running Mint on my laptop

1:08:41 for simplicity and stability and and work every timeness.

1:08:46 And that's why I would expect a government to go

1:08:48 more on the mint side than than a cashy side.

1:08:51 But I do think there's there's plenty of other

1:08:54 solutions that would make a ton of sense.

1:08:56 Um Fedora, Red Hat, things like that being among them.

1:08:59 Maybe not Red Hat again because the American company thing and that being

1:09:01 like the whole goal of what they're trying to get away from.

1:09:04 I don't think it's the same as using Windows,

1:09:06 but they'll probably still not go that route.

1:09:08 Uh I've got a micro topic.

1:09:10 This one isn't so much good news as it is hilarious.

1:09:14 Redditor posted a couple of screenshots showing an AI summary with some facts

1:09:24 about the company that acquired us 9 days ago on April the 1st.

1:09:34 FOMO Foundry.

1:09:37 This is great.

1:09:43 Uh, so apparently my browser thinks that FOMO Foundry is a real thing.

1:09:49 FOMO Foundry is an entity that acquired Lionus Media Group in April 2026,

1:09:54 pivoting the tech media company toward

1:09:56 a product first strategy that replaced its writing

1:09:59 and engineering departments with AI tools like

1:10:01 chat GPT and proprietary large language models.

1:10:05 Following the acquisition, LMG launched the Linus Coin,

1:10:08 a physical token minted from defective screwdriver parts,

1:10:11 which serves as a digital credit

1:10:13 with a 2:1 redemption rate to maintain financial solveny.

1:10:18 How could anything be so accurate and yet so fundamentally wrong?

1:10:29 Yeah, we did it.

1:10:28 We did it, Reddit.

1:10:30 We did it.

1:10:30 We bamboozled.

1:10:32 Uh what is this?

1:10:33 Is this uh is this Gemini then?

1:10:36 Yeah,

1:10:36 it looks like Gemini to me.

1:10:37 What's goggles?

1:10:39 Is this I just don't want to get this wrong.

1:10:41 Wait, what is goggles?

1:10:42 I don't know.

1:10:44 Yeah, my browser thinks so this this is it's some LLM somewhere.

1:10:49 Um so what seems to have happened here

1:10:54 um is that DNS records indicate that FOMO-foundry.com

1:10:59 was registered March 17th of this year.

1:11:02 So, it's possible that the AI is conflating

1:11:04 that network OS with our new corporate overlords.

1:11:08 Or it's also possible that it just ain't that deep and it's easily confused.

1:11:16 Um, if you're wondering, by the way, we did register FOMO.ai.

1:11:23 It's not Gemini.

1:11:25 Yeah.

1:11:25 So, it's it's something.

1:11:26 We bamboozled something.

1:11:27 So, we did register FOMOry.ai, AI,

1:11:30 but um you'll have to try it for yourself to see where it goes.

1:11:35 We worked on that for a while.

1:11:36 It's pretty good.

1:11:38 Yeah, actually I I think the developers who worked on that aspect

1:11:42 of the April Fool's joke are the unsung heroes of this whole endeavor

1:11:46 cuz so it was like actually a lot of effort and so

1:11:48 few people went to it and like it won't necessarily have legs,

1:11:52 but we worked on it for a while.

1:11:53 I know.

1:11:55 And like to be clear, the the physical merchandise team,

1:11:59 they did a lot of work getting the coin

1:12:00 design did a lot of work getting the coin going.

1:12:03 The video production guys,

1:12:06 they did a lot of work make bringing the whole video together.

1:12:09 Um Elijah died for this project.

1:12:12 So

1:12:13 that's true.

1:12:14 That was that was unfortunate.

1:12:15 But but

1:12:16 that still might not equal the effort of But FOMO foundry.ai AI I think was

1:12:21 more effort than all of those things combined.

1:12:24 Like Elijah's parents raising him for

1:12:28 over 20 years I still pales in comparison don't think equaled

1:12:33 how hard the developers worked on fomoofoundry.ai.

1:12:37 Yeah.

1:12:40 Yeah.

1:12:39 But they'll be remembered by us.

1:12:40 Um I I mean I'm never gonna give them up.

1:12:48 Yeah.

1:12:47 Or let them down.

1:12:48 No.

1:12:50 Uh, okay.

1:12:53 Scod develops a bike bell that can bypass,

1:12:56 speaking of bells, that can bypass noise cancelling uh,

1:12:59 headphones and then gives the technology away for free, which is awesome.

1:13:04 This is so bass.

1:13:05 This is so cool.

1:13:06 It sounds really cool, too.

1:13:08 SCOD has developed the Duo Bell,

1:13:10 a bicycle bell engineered to cut through active noise cancelling headphones,

1:13:13 which is a major problem right now cuz tons of people have them.

1:13:16 They've become very normal.

1:13:17 Uh in collaboration with researchers at the University of Salford,

1:13:21 the car company points to a 24% rise in bike pedestrian collisions in 2024,

1:13:29 partially blamed on the explosion

1:13:31 of ANC headphones drowning out traditional bells.

1:13:34 Researchers found a narrow safety gap between 750

1:13:38 and 780 hertz where ANC algorithms struggle to suppress sound.

1:13:43 So the bell rings at that exact pitch.

1:13:47 It's a range, but whatever.

1:13:49 Uh, a second resonator at a higher frequency keeps it

1:13:52 sound like keeps it sounding like a normal bike bell

1:13:56 and uh uh and an irregular striking mechanism produces sharp

1:14:00 sound bursts that ANC processing can't really react to in time.

1:14:05 Uh, the whole thing is fully mechanical with zero electronics, which

1:14:08 that's the coolest part.

1:14:09 That's awesome.

1:14:10 Also just so awesome.

1:14:13 Uh and in real world in real world tests with Deliveroo Couriers in London,

1:14:19 which I'm assuming is like

1:14:20 I don't know like Uber.

1:14:22 Yeah.

1:14:23 Uh

1:14:23 I actually don't know.

1:14:24 Pedestrians with ANC headphones detected the Duo bell from up

1:14:27 to 22 m further away than a normal bell.

1:14:30 That's awesome.

1:14:32 Giving cyclists a critical extra reaction window and a pretty decent one.

1:14:35 go to 22 meters in the context of like traffic movement.

1:14:42 That's that's awesome.

1:14:43 That's huge.

1:14:43 That's lifeaving.

1:14:47 Yeah.

1:14:47 Pretty sure it's called SCOD.

1:14:49 Okay.

1:14:50 Thank you.

1:14:50 Cool.

1:14:51 Uh neat.

1:14:52 Uh SCOD is publishing all the research and findings publicly

1:14:56 for free so other manufacturers can build their own versions.

1:14:59 fitting given that Scod actually started out making bicycles

1:15:03 130 years ago before it ever built a car.

1:15:08 That is so cool.

1:15:11 Our discussion question is,

1:15:12 when's the last time a car company did something this genuinely useful

1:15:15 for cyclists and pedestrians without trying to lock it behind a patent?

1:15:20 Uh, I can't think of anything.

1:15:24 There's got to be something at some point, but yeah, I have no idea.

1:15:27 I don't I don't What this reminded me of was the seat belt.

1:15:29 Wasn't the seat belt something like this?

1:15:31 Somebody invented it and then made it free for everybody.

1:15:33 Yeah, but I don't know if that helps pedestrians.

1:15:37 You know what?

1:15:37 That's pretty based.

1:15:38 Volvo and seat belts.

1:15:39 Yeah, that was that was very cool.

1:15:40 No, I'm I'm down with it.

1:15:41 You know what?

1:15:42 Let's go.

1:15:42 Let's go shout out Volvo then.

1:15:45 Yeah.

1:15:44 I mean, to the extent that the original

1:15:46 Volvo even still exists as a car manufacturer.

1:15:51 I'm just I'm just saying.

1:15:52 Who knows?

1:15:53 I'm just saying.

1:15:54 Well, no.

1:15:54 Like they're they're owned by uh who owns Volvo?

1:15:59 Yeah, Gily.

1:16:00 I mean, everybody's, as far as I can tell,

1:16:02 basically everybody's been sold to somebody since back then.

1:16:04 No, no.

1:16:04 Uh VW is still VW.

1:16:07 They're out there.

1:16:07 Ford's still Ford, for better or for worse.

1:16:12 That's something.

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1:18:39 Did we talk about Linux on limited VRAMm already?

1:18:44 Yep.

1:18:44 Okay.

1:18:44 Yeah, topic wasn't crossed off, so I wasn't sure.

1:18:47 Sorry.

1:18:48 Nope.

1:18:47 Oh, I just I don't cross them off.

1:18:48 I just I just uh collapsed them.

1:18:50 I think Dan does.

1:18:51 Which one was it?

1:18:52 What a guy.

1:18:53 No, I got it.

1:18:53 I got it.

1:18:54 I think you were just getting water or something.

1:18:55 It's fine.

1:18:56 Cool.

1:18:56 Just wanted to check.

1:19:00 Blow plane announcement.

1:19:02 We let Mr.

1:19:04 David Pancratz vlog what his week at LMG is like.

1:19:09 Huh.

1:19:10 If you've watched any LTT videos in the last se six to seven months,

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1:19:23 of the more technical aspects of things over the line.

1:19:26 This week's float plane exclusive has him building a PC for Red Bull,

1:19:31 showcasing uh scripts for setting up our PCs and being part

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1:19:45 Let's see what people are thinking of this video so far.

1:19:47 Uh yeah, there people are people are liking it.

1:19:51 Pretty cool.

1:19:52 He um he is a wearer of many many many hats.

1:19:58 All right, more topics.

1:20:03 Uh yeah, there's uh one I want to jump into.

1:20:07 Sure.

1:20:06 Uh where'd it go?

1:20:08 It's on the dock.

1:20:10 Samsung Electronics fires first shot in departure from ARM.

1:20:14 Develops proprietary SSD controller based on open-source risk 5.

1:20:21 It's happening.

1:20:22 More risk news.

1:20:23 It's happening.

1:20:24 Risk is good.

1:20:25 Samsung is launching its BM9K1 uh cool uh SSD lineup with a custom

1:20:33 in-house controller chip built on the open source risk 5 architecture,

1:20:36 marking the first time Samsung has shipped

1:20:39 a commercial product using Risk 5 instead of ARM.

1:20:43 The move lets Samsung skip ARM licensing fees

1:20:47 um and customize the chip however it wants,

1:20:49 which is especially relevant given ARM's recent

1:20:51 legal fight with Qualcomm over chip design changes.

1:20:55 Samsung says the new design is 1.6 times faster.

1:20:59 That does not mean your SSD will be 1.6 times faster to be clear,

1:21:02 but still that's very cool.

1:21:04 And 23% more energy efficient.

1:21:06 That does not mean your entire SSD will be 23% more energy efficient,

1:21:09 but it's still cool uh than the previous generation.

1:21:12 Samsung is following Western Digital,

1:21:14 which has been using its own risk 5 chips in SSD controllers for years.

1:21:17 And Samsung has played around with Risk 5 and other projects since 2020,

1:21:21 sorry, 2019, but never shipped anything until now.

1:21:24 The BM9K1 is set to launch in 2027.

1:21:27 And that is awesome because any commercial project products

1:21:31 that ship with risk on them just makes it more normal.

1:21:35 To be clear, ARM is also risk, but he means risk five.

1:21:40 Yeah.

1:21:40 Yeah.

1:21:43 The I have a theory.

1:21:46 It's just a theory that's not trademarked.

1:21:49 Retired.

1:21:50 Nope.

1:21:50 He's retired.

1:21:51 A computer theory.

1:21:52 Sure.

1:21:53 A computer theory.

1:21:53 I have a computer theory.

1:21:54 I have a theory that as long as the transition took between

1:22:00 x86 and ARM or not even transition because they're very much still

1:22:06 coexisting today but as long as that took I think risk 5's

1:22:14 rise will be at most a third of the amount of time

1:22:20 we're going towards a very interesting future because with the like

1:22:26 mind share divestment that's happening from Microsoft and Windows right

1:22:30 now of people interested in Mac and people interested in Linux

1:22:36 and just kind of moving off of off of that.

1:22:38 Um, and hardware just getting a little funky like pricing has been really crazy.

1:22:46 a lot of Chinese manufacturers are starting to kind

1:22:48 of prop up and look at that consumer market and go,

1:22:51 we might be able to take some of that, especially if

1:22:53 pricing is going to be 2,000% higher than it used to be.

1:22:56 Um, companies like more and more

1:22:59 companies I'm finding discussions about risk five

1:23:02 to be much more common these days than it was even 3 4 years ago.

1:23:07 Um, there's, you know, Google making their own stuff.

1:23:14 Intel interested in being a fab potentially more than even their own.

1:23:18 Like Speaking of Intel, I had this queued up already.

1:23:21 I don't give financial advice on this show,

1:23:23 but if you bought Intel when I said that I thought it was looking kind of cool

1:23:28 and laid out all the reasons I thought it

1:23:30 was kind of cool in the medium to long term,

1:23:33 um, you're doing pretty good so far.

1:23:35 Just throw that.

1:23:36 I I I don't know, man.

1:23:39 I It's It's real tempting sometimes when I can just

1:23:42 kind of like see the tea leaves and I'm like,

1:23:47 "Mhm, this is the direction." Me being

1:23:53 invested in Intel would be pretty bad though.

1:23:55 That would be pretty bad.

1:23:58 Anyway, yeah.

1:24:02 Yeah.

1:24:02 So, it's like it's it's interesting.

1:24:03 A lot of things are moving towards like actually

1:24:06 genuinely moving towards open source setups for things um which is very based

1:24:15 interesting.

1:24:15 It's cool.

1:24:16 I don't know what that future necessarily looks like.

1:24:18 Probably a lot of fragmentation but I think it'll be fun.

1:24:21 I'm excited.

1:24:24 Okay, next topic.

1:24:29 Stay the path says, "Yeah,

1:24:30 that'd almost be as bad as like the president of the United States shilling

1:24:34 a ticker or like a crypto or NFT or something." You're You know what?

1:24:38 You're right.

1:24:38 I think that um if it's their own name, I think they have to.

1:24:43 That would never happen.

1:24:46 Yeah.

1:24:45 Yeah.

1:24:45 That's that's pretty far-fetched.

1:24:47 I I wouldn't want to live in a world that's so corrupt that the politicians

1:24:52 at the highest level would shill stocks

1:24:54 and also almost as bad YouTubers would do it.

1:24:59 I don't want to live in that world.

1:25:01 Almost almost as bad.

1:25:04 Uh, speaking of far-fetched,

1:25:07 Apple approves drivers that let AMD and Nvidia eGPUs run on Mac.

1:25:11 Okay.

1:25:12 I was so excited when I read that much of it.

1:25:14 Carry on.

1:25:15 Yeah, it gets a little worse.

1:25:16 Uh, the software is designed for AI though and not built for gaming.

1:25:21 Apple has officially signed off on those drivers.

1:25:23 Uh, the drivers are developed by Tiny Corp,

1:25:26 the company behind the Tiny Box AI accelerator,

1:25:29 and Apple's approval means users no longer need hacky

1:25:32 workarounds like disabling system integrity protection to get eGPUs running.

1:25:38 This is specifically for AI workloads, not for gaming.

1:25:42 The drivers are built for running large language models.

1:25:45 So, if you were hoping to plug a GPU into your Mac and fire up games,

1:25:48 that's unfortunately not in the cards.

1:25:51 Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.

1:25:54 Nice.

1:25:54 Solid.

1:25:54 Solid.

1:25:56 Tiny Corp first got an eGPU working on Apple Silicon back in May 2025.

1:26:01 That was not me, by the way.

1:26:02 That was the writer.

1:26:03 Um, back in May 2025, but that required unofficial methods.

1:26:07 Now, with Apple's blessing, installation is straightforward.

1:26:11 For context, Tiny Corp sells some serious AI hardware.

1:26:14 Their lineup ranges from 12,000 from a $12,000 box with four AMD 9070 XTs

1:26:20 all the way up to a $65,000 system running four RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell GPUs.

1:26:30 The reason that this is in good news wow I feel like I should explain that

1:26:34 it's still good is that this is the first step

1:26:40 sign of a potential future

1:26:44 thaw in the frosty relationship between Apple and Nvidia.

1:26:49 I would love to see at some point.

1:26:52 Um, you know, I think asking for an Nvidia

1:26:56 GPU baked onto Apple silicon in a multi-d package,

1:27:00 that's probably unrealistic,

1:27:02 but I'd love to see a future where I could hook an Nvidia eGPU up

1:27:07 to my MacBook Neo3 or MacBook Neo4 and run serious games off of an iPhone CPU.

1:27:17 Be sweet.

1:27:17 And Nvidia's down.

1:27:20 We know this because they actually went and did the work and made a driver.

1:27:25 And this was a number of years ago.

1:27:27 And Apple intentionally blocked it from working.

1:27:31 Ever since Bumpgate, things have been frosty between between the two.

1:27:38 But I just I feel like both of them have come so far and been

1:27:42 so successful that you would think it would be time to bury the hatchet.

1:27:49 You know, maybe.

1:27:52 Yeah, maybe.

1:27:53 Maybe when pigs fly and, you know, me and Gamers Nexus make up and kiss.

1:28:03 I had a segue plan for the next topic and it's gone.

1:28:07 is I have no idea what it was.

1:28:10 Uh I have genuinely How's that for an image in your mind?

1:28:14 Oh no.

1:28:18 His hair just draping around your face.

1:28:22 Hey, what makes you think I would be on the bottom?

1:28:26 So many things.

1:28:33 Keyron,

1:28:33 I feel like he would.

1:28:33 Yeah,

1:28:34 Keyron has made their keyboard and mice designs

1:28:39 source available, allowing anyone to design or 3D print parts for their devices.

1:28:45 This is so cool.

1:28:47 They published a GitHub repository containing production grade CAD

1:28:50 files for 83 of their keyboard and mouse models.

1:28:54 files are available in step for 3D CAD work,

1:28:56 DXF for 2D plate cutting, and DWG for engineering drawings.

1:29:01 Meaning that owners can 3D print enclosures, CNC a replacement plate,

1:29:06 even in a new material like brass or carbon fiber,

1:29:09 or design their own mods without reverse engineering any of the measurements.

1:29:14 Despite widespread reporting though, calling this open source,

1:29:18 Keyron founder Nick Zoo has clarified it's actually source available.

1:29:22 So personal builds, hobby projects, and educational use are fine,

1:29:28 but commercial use is strictly prohibited,

1:29:30 and you can't use the files to manufacture or sell competing products.

1:29:35 Keyron had already published QMK and ZMK firmware source for many of its boards.

1:29:40 So this adds the physical hardware dimension to an already pretty open stack.

1:29:45 They are miles ahead of basically every other

1:29:47 keyboard and mouse brand as far as this goes.

1:29:49 uh who all seem to treat physical geometry as proprietary and lock it away.

1:29:55 I got to say this is this is admirable.

1:29:57 I don't know if I would be able I don't

1:29:59 know if I would have the stones to follow this step.

1:30:02 This is incredibly cool.

1:30:05 Um, now this is for discontinued products.

1:30:07 And so I'm kind of I'm trying to think like screwdriver is one that we've had

1:30:10 people ask for the CAD for and I

1:30:14 think upon request we've provided the outside dimensions,

1:30:18 but we have never provided the drawings for the entire thing.

1:30:23 Um, I think if you're a if you're a manufacturing

1:30:27 shop in wherever and you want to rip off their keyboard,

1:30:32 I think you can take it apart and figure those things out.

1:30:36 Like I think at like deep commercial level,

1:30:38 you could already steal it from them.

1:30:40 Um, so I think there's probably some amount

1:30:44 of recognition there and them just being like, "Hey,

1:30:48 the people who wanted to rip this off

1:30:50 already could have and we can be really cool

1:30:52 guys to a lot of the people that that just

1:30:56 want to do good things with this." So,

1:30:58 I mean, it sounds sounds like a great move to me and I

1:31:00 I don't really think they're setting themselves up for anything super horrible.

1:31:05 No, I don't think so.

1:31:06 I just don't know if I have the stones.

1:31:07 It's It's so unconventional.

1:31:09 And maybe someday, maybe this is the first

1:31:11 step in a move like this becoming conventional.

1:31:14 That'd be cool.

1:31:15 And um pretty sick.

1:31:17 I'll have to do some reflection on it.

1:31:20 You know, maybe someday, deity willing, I could be this based.

1:31:28 Um speaking about things that are based, dear.

1:31:32 Uh like like John Deere, that deer.

1:31:36 Yeah.

1:31:35 Like like go yourself.

1:31:37 I'm not calling them based to be clear,

1:31:39 but what has happened to them is is good.

1:31:42 And I don't know enough about this case to say that this was enough,

1:31:45 but I'm happy that something happened that they are probably not happy about.

1:31:48 Uh deer settles US right to repair

1:31:50 lawsuit agrees to $99 million fund for farmers.

1:31:54 Couldn't couldn't make it one more, just make it 100, but I guess that's fine.

1:31:58 Uh they they put that into a settlement fund

1:32:00 to resolve the 2022 class action lawsuit that accused the company

1:32:04 of monopolizing repair services and conspiring with author authorized dealers

1:32:09 to force farmers to use them for tractor and equipment fixes.

1:32:13 The fund covers farmers who paid deer uh or its authorized

1:32:16 dealers for large agricultural equipment repairs dating back to January of 2018.

1:32:22 More importantly, and this is where I got actually excited,

1:32:26 Deer has committed to providing the digital tools, software,

1:32:29 and manuals needed to diagnose and repair its tractors, combines,

1:32:33 and sugarcane harvesters for the next 10 years on a license.

1:32:38 I only READ THE FIRST HALF.

1:32:40 On a license or subscription basis,

1:32:42 formalizing a memorandum that had previously

1:32:45 existed but was never legally binding.

1:32:48 License or subscription basis.

1:32:49 Ah, that feels like that's going to be abused horribly.

1:32:53 This is better than them having it under lock and key.

1:32:57 Yeah,

1:32:57 because hopefully just gets pirated immediately.

1:32:59 I was going to say anything that exists

1:33:01 on a license or subscription basis exists on the high seas.

1:33:07 Yeah.

1:33:07 Yeah.

1:33:07 Hopefully that gets on the high seas like immediately.

1:33:09 Um, dear insists the settlement comes with no admission of wrongdoing.

1:33:15 Uh but right to repair advocates are calling it a landmark win

1:33:18 that could set precedents for similar

1:33:20 cases against automakers and consumer tech companies.

1:33:23 And hopefully it does.

1:33:26 Our discussion question is deer had to be dragged through four years

1:33:31 of litigation and a $99 million settlement

1:33:33 to let farmers fix their own tractors.

1:33:36 How many other industries are running the same playbook?

1:33:39 Oh, tons of them.

1:33:40 Most importantly, I think is is in medicine.

1:33:43 like the fact that fixing people is

1:33:47 also bound by these same douchebaggery moves.

1:33:52 Now, to be clear, I'm not saying it should just be a free-for-all

1:33:55 because when something is so important that it it keeps a person alive,

1:34:02 I am not saying that just any random schmuck should

1:34:06 necessarily be working on it with any random schmuck parts,

1:34:10 but there's got to be a middle ground.

1:34:13 Yeah.

1:34:13 There's got to be a middle ground.

1:34:16 Yeah,

1:34:16 I can tell you from experience that aviation has some of this nonsense in it.

1:34:21 Uh my uncle showed me a light bulb, a little incandescent bulb.

1:34:24 I should bring it in.

1:34:24 I'll bring it in uh maybe next week if I remember.

1:34:27 But it's about this big, which

1:34:28 I think I get it if for aviation cuz if you're if you're totally average size,

1:34:33 light bulb this size.

1:34:34 Um it's $20 because you can only get it from Deso directly.

1:34:40 No one else is allowed to make it and it's the only one that's certified

1:34:43 so that you can put it behind like a little illuminated switch in a dashboard.

1:34:46 It's like freaking ridiculous.

1:34:47 I just don't want people with big shiny

1:34:51 metal objects in the sky to necessarily have an easier time when it could result

1:34:56 in that big shiny metal object smacking into somebody.

1:35:00 And but I mean that's the oh man see that's the dangerous sort of territory

1:35:05 that we end up in because that's the kind

1:35:07 of justification that's given for locking things down.

1:35:11 So I'm just saying there's got to be a middle ground.

1:35:14 Yeah.

1:35:14 And with something like tractors,

1:35:15 it seems pretty obvious because the only person who could be

1:35:18 harmed by it not operating correctly is the operator of it.

1:35:22 So at least by by fixing it yourself and doing your own thing to it,

1:35:26 it's your own liability that you are ultimately creating.

1:35:29 Yeah.

1:35:29 And it's sticky because I I very much

1:35:31 support right to repair when it comes to cars.

1:35:33 And cars has a similar problem to the plane.

1:35:36 I think I'm just a lot less worried about protecting people

1:35:38 who own planes than I am protecting people who own cars.

1:35:41 I think you're just worried that, you know,

1:35:42 if anything bad happened to me that you'd be sad.

1:35:46 Thank you.

1:35:46 I appreciate that.

1:35:50 Um, you know what I'm worried about though

1:35:53 is that the flatearthers are going to have

1:35:56 a field day with how good those photos of the solar eclipse look from Artemis 2.

1:36:03 Oh man, they look almost too good to be real.

1:36:06 Do you want Do you want to do you want

1:36:07 to fire it up while I just talk through the thing?

1:36:09 The full NASA gallery is based, so I'll go there.

1:36:12 The Artemis 2 crew took a bunch of photos of the moon during their lunar flyby,

1:36:18 and the images look like something out of Asimov's Foundation series.

1:36:22 So, honestly, even even some of the ones from inside the ship,

1:36:24 like that is such a sick photo, dude.

1:36:28 Wow.

1:36:28 Wow.

1:36:29 Absolutely.

1:36:30 This is about as based as a photo can be yet a moon base.

1:36:34 This is probably the coolest photo of someone taking a photo.

1:36:38 Uh but okay, we'll get to we'll get to real ones.

1:36:41 You can download these.

1:36:42 They are really high- res.

1:36:44 Fantastic background bait for for people who want to make cool stuff.

1:36:49 Um, some of these are just Yeah.

1:36:51 Wow.

1:36:53 Isn't that incredible?

1:36:55 Um, okay.

1:36:57 That one to the right there.

1:36:58 This one?

1:36:59 No.

1:36:59 Uh, left.

1:36:59 Left.

1:37:00 Yeah.

1:37:01 Oh, I I love this one.

1:37:05 That is so just like OLED friendly background.

1:37:11 Yeah.

1:37:11 Wow.

1:37:13 Maybe there's a little bit too much contrast along the bottom left, but still.

1:37:17 Oh, that's so cool.

1:37:18 Um, there's a recreation of the iconic Earthrise photo from Apollo 8.

1:37:26 It's a It's Yeah.

1:37:27 Uh, hold on.

1:37:28 This one.

1:37:29 They're very similar.

1:37:30 I mean, they were taken they were taking a lot of photos.

1:37:33 They were taking a lot of photos.

1:37:34 This one's specifically called out, is it?

1:37:36 But yeah.

1:37:37 Uh, here's an eclipse shot.

1:37:39 Oh man, so good.

1:37:43 So cool.

1:37:44 So good.

1:37:45 Oh man.

1:37:48 Edge of the moon in nighttime is visible in the background

1:37:50 as the sun is setting on the opposite side.

1:37:53 The image captures the beginning of a total solar eclipse that astronauts

1:37:56 were able to observe at the end of their lunar observation period.

1:37:59 Ah ah it's just it's just the the writeups are

1:38:04 just exactly what was happening and yet they sound so cool.

1:38:09 Commander Reed Wisman told mission control it

1:38:12 was a surreal experience and said he'd need

1:38:14 to invent new adjectives because no existing words

1:38:17 could describe what they were seeing out the window.

1:38:20 NASA has shared the full metadata for the photos to prove

1:38:22 that they are real unprocessed captures from the Orion capsule.

1:38:26 They're not renders.

1:38:27 They're not composites.

1:38:28 Just breathtaking photos.

1:38:30 And yet I I firmly believe

1:38:34 photos of a set.

1:38:35 I firmly believe that because they look too good,

1:38:39 someone out there will believe they are fake.

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1:38:43 I believe that they're real.

1:38:44 And I firmly believe that I don't care because I choose to live in a world

1:38:50 where it is real and that is more interesting and more fun and more exciting.

1:38:55 It was um I I I I made the mistake

1:38:59 of watching a a small amount of a reaction video

1:39:06 of someone watching a stream of some flatearthers watching the launch

1:39:12 and like talking about how they were faking it and um

1:39:17 faking the launch

1:39:18 like fake.

1:39:19 Yeah, of course.

1:39:20 just go

1:39:21 cuz a rocket launch has to be fake if if the earth is, you know, flat and stuff.

1:39:27 You can see it from so far away and you can go not that far away.

1:39:32 Dude, they start talking about like how many

1:39:34 camera angles there are and how many cuts

1:39:36 there are to conceal like the I don't know the set or like the fakeness of it.

1:39:42 They they cut that.

1:39:43 It's like you know how many you know how

1:39:44 many camera angle cuts there are in a soccer game?

1:39:47 Does that mean nobody has ever played soccer?

1:39:50 What are you even talking about?

1:39:52 Like it's watching watching these people

1:39:56 twist themselves into mental gymnastic pretzels

1:40:01 to continue to believe something that is just so obviously not true.

1:40:06 Like you can just

1:40:07 You think any of it's bait?

1:40:10 I wish it was.

1:40:13 Like some of it's got to be bait.

1:40:15 Some of it.

1:40:16 I'm sure there's also people

1:40:18 here's the thing that believe it.

1:40:19 If the influencers are all are 100% of them if 100% of them are grifters

1:40:24 dude my NASA paycheck came in.

1:40:27 Sure.

1:40:27 So if a 100% of the influencers in the space are grifters,

1:40:33 then if nobody actually believed it, who would be following them then?

1:40:43 Like I'm saying, even if the people who are who are

1:40:46 most active in propagating the conspiracy theory are in on it, okay,

1:40:51 obviously somebody's not because they wouldn't be watching this.

1:40:55 So, so I can't So, I can't accept

1:40:58 But you watched it.

1:40:59 No, I watched someone making watching it to make fun of it.

1:41:03 But I think there's a lot of people that will rage stuff like that.

1:41:06 Okay, I'm going to say something sadder.

1:41:09 Um, a peripheral family member.

1:41:12 Oh, no.

1:41:13 I ended up in like a fairly

1:41:16 I don't know about heated,

1:41:17 but definitely firm conversation with about it at some point.

1:41:21 So,

1:41:21 that's unfortunate.

1:41:22 Yeah.

1:41:22 And there was like it wasn't it wasn't like at the end of it they were like

1:41:27 I'm just kidding like you know there there was emotion.

1:41:34 So no no I'm sorry I the level of commitment to something so sad.

1:41:43 It's almost admirable.

1:41:44 It's just a No, it's not a less interesting world.

1:41:49 It's like there's so much like I don't know.

1:41:51 I think a flat I think a a flat like pancake

1:41:55 thing rotating around amidst all the other round planets is pretty interesting.

1:42:00 But like also to believe that we've never made

1:42:02 it out there and we've never learned these things.

1:42:04 We've never you know mankind never took that step like it's just it's smaller.

1:42:10 It's narrower.

1:42:11 It's uh there's only a small step.

1:42:15 so much dark there's so much darkness and like sadness

1:42:18 and negativity in the world very heavily right now not on the land show

1:42:23 and there's there's these there's these moments of like human

1:42:27 brightness that happen and to deny that is just so sad

1:42:31 I I that that's why it's like I fully believe

1:42:33 that it's real and even if I didn't I would want to

1:42:39 okay this might not be a topic for wow but would you extend that logic to

1:42:46 I do with placebo things.

1:42:50 Dragons.

1:42:51 Do you choose to believe Abominable Snowman is real?

1:42:53 Because that's more interesting.

1:42:55 I think Abominable Snowman is pretty interesting.

1:42:57 It's not good, though.

1:42:59 That's interesting, but it's not good.

1:43:01 Part of this is that it's good.

1:43:02 Sure.

1:43:02 I mean, the vacuum of space is not good, but it's interesting.

1:43:07 There's nothing to lead me to believe either of those things are legitimate.

1:43:11 Uh,

1:43:12 okay.

1:43:12 So, you want some evidence.

1:43:14 vaguely interesting.

1:43:15 I don't think they're anywhere even in the same

1:43:18 stratosphere as interesting as as as this.

1:43:21 And I don't see them as good.

1:43:23 So like I don't think there are equivalencies.

1:43:25 I understand what you're trying to go for.

1:43:27 There might be other things.

1:43:28 I think for me it's placebo.

1:43:29 So within limits of you know things

1:43:32 that you have actual any evidence for whatsoever,

1:43:36 you choose to believe the more interesting and exciting version and good

1:43:39 for now.

1:43:40 And that's one of the like I will I will

1:43:42 repeatedly tell myself that if I take like a a drug

1:43:46 or a treatment for something I will like push into my brain

1:43:51 repeatedly like it's good that I'm taking this cuz it works

1:43:54 right.

1:43:54 Oh yeah.

1:43:55 And I'll like fullheartedly believe that cuz I'm like all right

1:43:59 come on in some way in some way this will work.

1:44:03 So like, yeah, I think I do that with more than just NASA stuff,

1:44:07 but then I also I mean I've I've seen a rocket take off,

1:44:11 so like I don't know, bro.

1:44:14 You can just go.

1:44:16 The ducks are free.

1:44:17 Like I don't know, man.

1:44:20 Um, in other space related news, the FCC is set to supercharge

1:44:25 satellite internet performance and potentially lower costs.

1:44:29 They just announced they'll vote on April 30th on an order

1:44:32 to overhaul satellite spectrum sharing rules from the 1990s,

1:44:36 replacing the old equivalent power flux

1:44:38 density framework that limits how much signal

1:44:41 um how much signal power low Earth orbit satellites like Starlink can use.

1:44:45 FCC chair Brendan Carr said that the change

1:44:48 could boost capacity for space-based broadband

1:44:50 by as much as seven times current levels using the same number of satellites.

1:44:54 The rule change would mean faster speeds, potentially lower costs,

1:44:57 and better service for rural rural and remote users with the FTC

1:45:00 estimating more than $2 billion in economic benefits for the US alone.

1:45:04 SpaceX, which has lobbied heavily for the change, stands to gain the most.

1:45:08 Starlink accounts for about 65% of all active satellites in orbit,

1:45:11 and they have more than 10 million subscribers worldwide.

1:45:14 The timing is pretty excellent for them right now,

1:45:16 too, with the rumored IPO coming.

1:45:18 Interestingly though, not everyone's on board.

1:45:20 Geostationary satellite operators like Vioat, SCS,

1:45:23 and Direct TV opposed the change, arguing that loosening the power limits

1:45:27 could cause interference with their existing fleets.

1:45:33 In other NASA news, that uh fan testing video that we released this week,

1:45:39 it took a long time, which was not great.

1:45:41 Like I think Adam's trip was like a year ago,

1:45:44 but the timing ended up being really good because

1:45:46 to the point where a lot of people thought you guys didn't intentionally.

1:45:49 Don't think you did.

1:45:51 Definitely not.

1:45:52 There was just a lot of math and a lot of coordination and a lot

1:45:55 of just things taken a long time and we eventually got it done.

1:45:59 Uh Dr.

1:46:00 Lewis Edelman, former NASA scientist,

1:46:02 delved into the details of the fan testing equipment

1:46:04 and methodology in an article on the LTT labs website.

1:46:10 How freaking cool is that?

1:46:13 We have a special guest writer.

1:46:17 Awesome.

1:46:19 You guys are definitely going to want to head over there and read this because

1:46:23 there's only so much that we can cover in a video format and while keeping it,

1:46:27 you know, not a snoozefest.

1:46:29 And you can see as I go through this, clearly not all of this was in there.

1:46:35 And just because it's not a snooze via text or sorry,

1:46:40 just because it would be kind of snoozeworthy

1:46:41 in video doesn't mean that it's snoozeworthy via text.

1:46:45 It's an excellent read and that is power supply turn on and turn off timings.

1:46:58 It's something that I had never thought about before.

1:47:01 And don't get scared by this because um Lucas

1:47:06 actually does a really good job breaking stuff down

1:47:09 of explaining all these values and why they exist and why they matter.

1:47:16 Uh which is pretty cool.

1:47:17 There's a lot more to the ATX specification than just like 12vt go burr.

1:47:24 It's really cool stuff.

1:47:28 And once you understand it more,

1:47:33 you properly appreciate just how smart the folks who

1:47:37 design these standards are and how important they are.

1:47:41 Like Intel, it's hilarious.

1:47:44 It's like Intel's never Intel never made a power

1:47:46 supply for you to put in your gaming rig,

1:47:49 but here they are sort of foundationally involved in the design

1:47:54 of functionally every single one you've ever used in your lifetime,

1:47:57 unless you're very, very old.

1:47:59 Um, pretty cool stuff.

1:48:00 Definitely worth a read as well.

1:48:02 LT Labs has been doing some really neat stuff over the last little while.

1:48:06 Anyway, our discussion question is,

1:48:08 have you ever made a really poor fan placement decision in a previous

1:48:13 build that this video from the collaboration with NASA would have prevented?

1:48:20 I don't think so, but mostly because I haven't

1:48:23 had a lot of builds that had glass in them.

1:48:26 There are a ton of cases out there that this would

1:48:28 have actually potentially impacted where I put my fans,

1:48:32 but I haven't built in a lot of them.

1:48:34 Um, the only case that I've ever had that had like front panel glass Yeah.

1:48:41 is the one that I currently have and there's no fan slots there.

1:48:45 I think for me it's less front panel glass and it's more bottom intakes.

1:48:50 There have been many cases that have short enough feet.

1:48:56 No feet.

1:48:56 Yeah.

1:48:57 That they're bottom intakes.

1:48:58 Now that I am, now that I understand how much spacing we actually need,

1:49:03 um, simply just are not intaking air efficiently.

1:49:07 That doesn't mean that I wouldn't still put the fans there,

1:49:10 but I might not rely on them as much.

1:49:12 I might go I might opt for a different

1:49:14 configuration of the fans in the rest of the case,

1:49:16 knowing that those ones in the bottom are not really drawing in that much air.

1:49:20 or I might run them at a lower speed

1:49:22 knowing that they're going to be they're going to have

1:49:25 an outsized effect on the overall noise of my system

1:49:29 because of all that turbulence in their intake.

1:49:34 Mhm.

1:49:34 I I am trying to find something.

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1:51:41 Did you find what you're looking for?

1:51:43 Uh chat helped me figure it out.

1:51:46 Nice.

1:51:46 Good job, chat.

1:51:47 I need another second to actually bring up the actual video,

1:51:51 but we're talking about power supply timings,

1:51:53 and it made me think of a video I watched recently from Lori Wired,

1:51:58 uh, which is this one.

1:51:59 Your RAM has a 60-year-old design flaw.

1:52:02 I bypassed it.

1:52:03 Oh, that was sick.

1:52:03 I watched that recently, too.

1:52:05 This is incredible.

1:52:07 Amazing video.

1:52:08 It's so awesome.

1:52:09 I didn't know it worked this way.

1:52:12 Um, I don't want to go way too deep into it,

1:52:14 but the storytelling is really good.

1:52:16 Her work is really good.

1:52:17 I I personally like long format videos on YouTube.

1:52:20 It's just an awesome watch if you're into that kind of stuff.

1:52:22 Usually I'm pointing you guys for these types of things to the labs website.

1:52:26 Um and you should go check that out

1:52:27 for the NASA fan video and the power supply timings thing.

1:52:30 But you mentioned timings reminded me of this amazing video.

1:52:33 Um, I don't want to spoil too much of it, but yeah,

1:52:36 a very very old design constraint from like when we were

1:52:41 trying to figure out how to do PC memory has your RAM

1:52:45 modules effectively like kind of turning off so capacitors can recharge

1:52:48 and then turning back on and that is technically a performance loss.

1:52:53 And then diving into like why that is required and blah blah blah blah.

1:52:58 Very very good video.

1:52:59 I don't want to say too much but check it out.

1:53:00 It's fantastic.

1:53:01 Is this the one where it involved having multiple copies of the same data

1:53:05 on the RAM and then hitting the one

1:53:08 that had the lowest latency or something like that?

1:53:10 Or was that a separate RAM?

1:53:11 I think that's a separate article this week.

1:53:13 Okay, Dan, do you remember?

1:53:15 I'm pretty sure that's a separate thing.

1:53:16 It might be a separate thing.

1:53:17 It's incredibly complicated.

1:53:18 There were like two copies though, but I don't know.

1:53:22 Yeah.

1:53:26 Sorry.

1:53:26 One of the top comments is randomly absent memory.

1:53:28 And I just think that's really funny.

1:53:30 Um, they got to play with trains.

1:53:33 Yeah, it's cool.

1:53:34 I There's been a lot going on.

1:53:36 It's not that old a video.

1:53:37 It's only 3 days old.

1:53:38 It feels like I watched this weeks ago.

1:53:41 I would have said I would have said like two weeks.

1:53:43 There's been a lot going on.

1:53:44 Um, so I don't remember all the details super super well,

1:53:48 but it's it's a great video and I just really recommend checking it out.

1:53:52 Um, all right.

1:53:52 Cool.

1:53:53 Anyways, that's it.

1:53:54 Hey, in other good news, it's real.

1:53:57 The 5 TBTE Google One upgrade.

1:53:59 Google has bumped Google AI Pro subscribers from 2 TB to 5 TB of cloud

1:54:04 storage at no extra cost with the $19.99 per month price staying the same.

1:54:09 The extra space works across Gmail, Google Drive, and Google Photos.

1:54:13 This only applies to AI Pro subscribers.

1:54:15 Standard Google One tiers haven't changed and will

1:54:17 start at 100 gigs for $2 a month.

1:54:19 Um, Google announced it on April 1st,

1:54:22 which had some users wondering if it was a joke,

1:54:24 but VP uh, Sherid Benier confirmed it on Twitter.

1:54:30 Um, part of me kind of goes, yeah,

1:54:34 are they just trying to get more of your data?

1:54:36 It's like, yes, but also if we were going to have

1:54:39 to pay for it for them to get more of our data,

1:54:41 at least I guess they can get moreer of our data, which is

1:54:44 I know it's expensive right now, but home labbing is sick.

1:54:48 Yeah, but hey, I we so rarely find

1:54:52 a subscription service these days that is just

1:54:56 a subscription service from a big tech company that got better instead of worse

1:54:59 spontaneously is more

1:55:02 rare more rather than less.

1:55:03 So we're we got to call out bad stuff when we see it, but we also got to like,

1:55:09 you know, on the other side we got

1:55:10 to be like good job when something doesn't suck more.

1:55:15 Yeah.

1:55:15 say the past a heads up though home lab is an enormous rabbit hole.

1:55:19 Yeah, there's I think there's I think people have

1:55:22 a tendency to dive in further than they necessarily

1:55:26 need to and I think you can start

1:55:28 with home labby stuff without really going way too hard.

1:55:31 And there there are content creators out there

1:55:33 that can help you not dive past either your capabilities,

1:55:39 your desire to invest time or your desire to invest money.

1:55:43 You can do it in simpler ways and cheaper ways.

1:55:45 anything into a dick measuring contest.

1:55:48 Home lab is for sure one of those.

1:55:51 I have so many AI GPUs in my in my house.

1:55:55 I don't even use them because I just And that's cool.

1:56:01 They were for other people.

1:56:03 You just don't have to, you know, you don't you don't have to do that.

1:56:06 You can keep it pretty simple.

1:56:07 Yeah.

1:56:07 You don't have to do that.

1:56:09 Uh do not do that.

1:56:14 Hey Oh, you know what?

1:56:15 I'll save this one.

1:56:16 Our last big topic, neural compression.

1:56:19 Speaking of AI, is coming for your VRAMm.

1:56:21 And both Nvidia and Intel are racing to ship it.

1:56:25 They both showed off new neural texture compression tech this week.

1:56:29 Nvidia's approach, neural texture compression, NTC,

1:56:32 had their demo showing VRAM usage dropping from about 6

1:56:36 1/2 GB with traditional compressed textures to just 970 MGB.

1:56:42 Oh, all while keeping image quality close to the original.

1:56:46 The core idea here is instead of using traditional block compression,

1:56:50 which chops textures into small blocks and approximates them,

1:56:53 NTC uses a small neural network that learns a much more efficient compressed

1:56:57 representation of the texture data and reconstructs

1:56:59 it on the fly during rendering.

1:57:01 Yeah, I'm a little skeptical, too.

1:57:03 I'll need to see it in action.

1:57:05 Just here, just just relax.

1:57:08 Okay, you're you're brow furing.

1:57:11 I can feel it from here just meanwhile Intel's approach texture set neural

1:57:18 compression TSNC had Intel showing two variants.

1:57:22 Variant A delivers up to nine times compression with minimal quality loss.

1:57:26 They say around 5% perceptual difference while variant B

1:57:30 pushes to 18 times compression but starts showing artifacts.

1:57:35 Intel's approach works at the texture set level.

1:57:37 Instead of compressing each texture individually,

1:57:40 their system looks at all the textures for a material together, color,

1:57:43 uh, normals, roughness, etc.,

1:57:45 and trains a neural network to learn patterns across all of them at once.

1:57:49 At runtime, a tiny AI model reconstructs the full set from that compressed data.

1:57:54 If these results hold up in real games,

1:57:57 if the practical impact could be significant, smaller installs, lighter patches,

1:58:02 and more headroom for higher quality assets on the same GPU hardware.

1:58:07 Nvidia also showed a companion technology called neural materials.

1:58:11 Instead of storing tons of texture channels and running heavy shading math,

1:58:14 it encodes material behavior into a compact representation

1:58:17 that a small neural network decodes at render time.

1:58:20 In one example, a 19 channel material setup was reduced to eight

1:58:24 channels with a 1.4x to 7.7x improvement to render speeds at 1080p.

1:58:30 Uh, our writer says, "I had to look up what channels meant in this context.

1:58:33 I'm going to drop a definition here in case you need it.

1:58:35 Channels are the separate texture layers

1:58:37 that make up a single surface like color,

1:58:39 roughness, normals, metallicness, etc.

1:58:42 One key distinction, guys, this is very important.

1:58:45 This is not DLSS 5.

1:58:48 DLSS, as far as we can tell,

1:58:51 works at the end of the pipeline on the final image.

1:58:54 There's a little bit of muddying of the waters there lately.

1:58:57 So, let's see what DLSS 5 actually ends up being.

1:59:00 Uh, but as far as we can tell, that's what it is.

1:59:04 These neural compression techniques are

1:59:05 embedded deeper inside the render engine,

1:59:07 handling specific tasks like decoding textures and evaluating materials rather

1:59:11 than acting as a big Instagram filter at the end.

1:59:13 That distinction matters because both developers

1:59:15 and players had something of an extreme

1:59:17 reaction to the effects of DLS 5 on the original artistic intent.

1:59:22 And now and now layer these two things together.

1:59:25 Like how far can we stray from the original vision?

1:59:28 Well, it depends.

1:59:29 If the original vision is for them to use this at the start,

1:59:33 then I guess it was the original vision

1:59:35 maybe.

1:59:35 But this is even like Okay, fair enough.

1:59:37 But I don't know that that's happening.

1:59:39 And also it's going to be inconsistent for each user.

1:59:43 Um, I won't know that until I see it.

1:59:46 I want to see it.

1:59:47 Like, if this is something where I end up with like boiling on every texture

1:59:50 in my in my game or something like

1:59:52 that, then obviously I'm going to be pretty against it.

1:59:55 Um, I I I I'm

1:59:59 layers and layers of interpretation is a is a bit of a scary thing.

2:00:03 I wasn't sure that DLSS super sampling or super resolution or sorry,

2:00:09 not super whatever the stupid upscaling.

2:00:11 I I wasn't convinced that DLSS was ever going

2:00:15 to be something that I'd want to turn on.

2:00:18 4.5 is something I would turn on without hesitation.

2:00:22 So,

2:00:24 while I fully understand and I'm on board a lot of the hesitancy and a lot

2:00:29 of the skepticism around Nvidia's marketing

2:00:32 of their DLSS various technologies and AI various technologies,

2:00:37 I'm going to take a wait and see approach.

2:00:39 Yeah.

2:00:39 I mean, I'm gonna wait.

2:00:40 going to see it cuz it's going to happen.

2:00:42 Nothing else really m Exactly.

2:00:43 There's nothing else that really matters.

2:00:44 Like there's nothing you can do.

2:00:45 It's not like I can call Jensen and be like,

2:00:47 "Hey, uh that thing you were working on, stop it.

2:00:50 It's bad.

2:00:50 Just cut top the presses.

2:00:52 Forget it.

2:00:52 We We don't like it.

2:00:54 Turn it off now." It's just It feels like a telephone game problem.

2:00:57 Oh, sure.

2:00:58 Garbage in, garbage out.

2:00:59 Pretty intense telephone game.

2:01:01 And how many layers of garbage in before all

2:01:04 we could possibly get out of it is garbage?

2:01:06 It's a good question.

2:01:07 Yeah, but we'll see.

2:01:12 Have you seen that like looking at the Ubisoft

2:01:13 logo from the side thing or whatever?

2:01:16 Oh, where it's a turd?

2:01:17 Yes.

2:01:17 Yes, I have.

2:01:18 Uh, Intel says that an alpha SDK is planned later this year,

2:01:22 while Nvidia hasn't given a specific timeline,

2:01:24 but is framing this as part of its

2:01:25 broader neural rendering road map alongside DLSS 5.

2:01:31 Um, right now it's hard for me to reflexively hate on anything

2:01:38 that makes it so we don't need quite as much RAM.

2:01:42 I guess I'm just concerned.

2:01:44 You should be.

2:01:46 And uh I think I would have been concerned already

2:01:49 and then having seen that stuff from DLSS 5, I am concerned.

2:01:55 I don't remember if I mentioned this back when we did that segment with Riley,

2:01:59 but one of the one of the first things I said to Nvidia about the DLSS5 demo

2:02:04 is that like I think the worst thing

2:02:10 that they did was show it before it was cooked.

2:02:13 I am usually uh uh the kind of person who enjoys seeing

2:02:18 things be developed in the open and watching the progress in real time.

2:02:23 In this case, I think they I think they did so much

2:02:28 harm and so much damage to what maybe will end up being

2:02:33 better than what we saw by showing it to us in that state

2:02:36 because it's not like this was on the verge of launching.

2:02:38 It's not like it was going to launch in a week.

2:02:41 Yeah.

2:02:40 Like it's it's months away.

2:02:43 Oh.

2:02:43 Uh Rod Rod said they're sharing DLSS 5 demo at PDX land tomorrow.

2:02:49 Oh, interesting.

2:02:50 Okay.

2:02:50 Well, Rod, are you going?

2:02:52 I assume you're going.

2:02:53 Are you going to Are you going to report for us?

2:02:55 You can be our correspondent.

2:02:56 Yeah, you can.

2:02:57 You can be our DLSS uh eye in the sky.

2:03:03 Yeah.

2:03:03 He says, "I'm at the I'm at the land." Yeah.