It’s Official: 7 Life-Changing Peptides are BACK.
Dr. Alex Tatem
0:00 So, if you follow the channel, you probably already know, but about a week ago,
0:03 I had the honor of sitting down with Steven
0:04 Barlet for an episode of Diary of a CEO.
0:07 That episode should be out by the time you're watching
0:08 this, and I'll drop the link in the description down below.
0:11 And before I get into anything else today, I just want to say this sincerely,
0:14 Steven and his entire team are an absolute class act.
0:18 I thought I had done media spots before,
0:20 but Diary of a CEO is hands down the most professional
0:22 outlet that I have ever had the pleasure to work with.
0:25 From the first email to the final handshake,
0:27 every single person on that team made me feel welcome,
0:29 respected, and like they actually cared about getting the content right.
0:33 Steven himself was even more thoughtful
0:34 in person than he comes across on camera,
0:36 which is saying something because he comes across pretty thoughtful on camera.
0:39 The prep was meticulous, the questions were sharp, and the studio was gorgeous,
0:43 and the whole experience was genuinely one
0:45 of the highlights of my career so far.
0:47 So to Stephen, Winnie, Zack,
0:48 cause and the rest of the team if you're watching this, which I'm going
0:51 to be realistic and assume you're probably not
0:53 because you have a whole company to run,
0:55 but just in case, thank you from me, from Ronic, and from the whole channel.
0:59 That was an experience of a lifetime.
1:01 And while I'm being sincere, I want to say something to you.
1:04 Yes, you, the person watching this video right now,
1:07 somewhere around the time when this drops,
1:09 we should be crossing the 100,000 subscriber mark on this channel.
1:12 And I don't take that lightly.
1:13 Everything this channel is, everything it's built,
1:16 everything it's going to become.
1:17 The podcast appearance, the AUA talk, the reach, the platform.
1:20 None of this exists without you.
1:22 You are the reason that I get to do this.
1:24 You have trusted me with your time,
1:26 and time is the one thing that none of us gets back.
1:28 And I take that responsibility very seriously.
1:31 Our goal from day one has been to use
1:32 this platform to do real good for real people.
1:35 Evidence-based, honest, occasionally stupid,
1:37 but always pointed at making the information landscape a little
1:40 less terrible for people trying to figure this stuff out.
1:42 and we're just getting started.
1:44 So, thank you for every like, every comment, every share, every DM.
1:48 Every time you passed a video along to a buddy who needed it.
1:51 I see it.
1:52 I appreciate it.
1:53 And I'm going to keep trying to earn it.
1:55 Okay, so here's where the video actually begins.
1:59 So, this video is two things at once.
2:01 First, it is a deep, detailed refresher on the exact legal status of peptides
2:04 in the United States as of right now.
2:06 what they are, how they got regulated,
2:08 how they got deregulated, how they basically got banned,
2:11 and how they're now literally as of a few days ago possibly on the road back.
2:14 It's a messy story.
2:16 It involves a fungal menitis outbreak,
2:18 a Supreme Court decision about breast cancer genes,
2:20 a mysterious FDA website swap, a Joe Rogan appearance,
2:23 a Federal Register notice,
2:25 and a whole lot of biohackers stabbing themselves in the belly
2:27 with vials they bought from websites that accept Dogecoin.
2:29 It is a truly American saga.
2:32 And second, this video is actually a preview
2:34 of a talk that I'm going to give later in May.
2:36 So consider this the public facing version of that lecture.
2:38 Same content, fewer slides, more profanity.
2:40 You've been warned.
2:41 Now, before we dive in, I need to ask you three things real quick.
2:44 And I know every YouTuber says this, but hear me out because
2:47 this video is going to take about 15 minutes of your life.
2:49 And it's genuinely one of the most
2:51 important topics that we've covered on this channel.
2:53 The first is that if you find this sort of content useful,
2:56 smash the like button.
2:57 The algorithm decides whether this video gets shown to 10,000 people or 10.
3:01 And whether or not you click the thumbs up in the first couple of minutes.
3:03 It's free.
3:04 It only takes half a second.
3:05 Do it.
3:06 Two is hit subscribe if you haven't already.
3:08 This channel is where we drop long-
3:10 form evidence-based content on men's health peptides,
3:12 peeds, and the stuff most primary
3:14 care doctors probably aren't comfortable talking about.
3:16 There are a lot of people making videos on peptides right now,
3:19 but most of them are selling peptides.
3:21 I'm not.
3:21 I'm a board-certified urologist with a men's
3:23 health fellowship and a questionable nicotine dependency.
3:26 different vibe.
3:27 And number three, drop a comment down below.
3:29 Specifically, I want to know, have you used peptides?
3:32 Are you using them now?
3:33 Are you thinking about it?
3:34 Or are you watching this video purely
3:35 for entertainment purposes because you heard a urologist
3:38 was about to try and explain
3:38 the administrative procedure act to a fitness audience.
3:42 Whatever your answer, tell me.
3:43 I read every single comment, as does Ronic.
3:45 It tends to fixate on the ones that mention his editing.
3:47 So, if you really want to screw with him, try critiquing his B-roll choices.
3:50 He gets all sassy.
3:51 I'll find her ID.
3:54 All right, let's get into it.
3:56 Okay, quick refresher.
3:57 And if you've watched our peptide deep dives before, I know, I know,
4:00 I keep doing this, but every time I post a peptide video,
4:03 a couple new people wander in from Tik Tok or Reddit or wherever,
4:05 and I just can't assume that everyone's up to speed.
4:07 So, here's the rapidfire version.
4:09 A peptide is a short chain of amino acids linked together by peptide bonds.
4:14 That's it.
4:14 That is the entire definition.
4:16 Amino acids are the building blocks of all proteins in your body.
4:19 So, you can think of peptides as the Lego
4:21 instructions right before you finish the spaceship.
4:23 They're intermediate.
4:24 They're the middle child of the protein world.
4:26 Your body already makes thousands of peptides.
4:28 Insulin is a peptide.
4:29 Oxytocin is a peptide.
4:30 Vasop prein is a peptide.
4:32 Growth hormone releasing hormone or GHR, it's a peptide.
4:35 These aren't all exotic compounds from a lab in Beijing.
4:38 Although, God knows a lot of them are these days.
4:40 At their point of origin,
4:42 these are really molecules your body already uses to help run the show.
4:46 As mentioned, anything 40 amino acids or shorter is classified as a peptide
4:50 and regulated under the standard new drug application pathway, the NDA.
4:54 That's the same pathway as conventional
4:56 small molecule drugs like Lipur or Viagra.
4:58 Anything longer than a 40 amino acids is classified as a protein
5:01 or a biologic and it gets regulated
5:03 under the biologics license application pathway, the BLA.
5:07 That pathway is significantly more expensive and significantly more restrictive.
5:11 So why does this matter?
5:12 Because the FDA has never in the entire history
5:14 of the agency granted a compounding pharmacy a BLA license.
5:18 Not once.
5:19 Same framework as why you can't walk into your local
5:21 compounder anymore and get HCG or FSH like you used to.
5:24 Biologics don't get compounded.
5:25 Period.
5:26 The cost of establishing a BLA capable facility
5:29 is conservatively somewhere between 80 and $150 million.
5:32 So a compounder could apply for a BLA the same
5:34 way that I could win the Arnold Classic next year.
5:37 Not technically impossible,
5:38 but essentially a guaranteed dumpster fire for everyone involved.
5:41 Become Mr.
5:41 Olympia.
5:42 I could be the best bodybuilder in the world.
5:43 I could go to the moon if I wanted to and then I'm going to get rich.
5:46 And here's another key conceptual point that I
5:48 want every single person watching this to internalize.
5:50 Peptides are defined by their structure, not by their therapeutic effect.
5:54 This is totally different from how we usually think about drug classes.
5:57 Statins are defined by what they do.
5:59 Beta blockers are defined by what they do.
6:01 ACE inhibitors, again, defined by what they do.
6:04 Peptides are defined by what they're made of.
6:06 The metaphor that I used with Steven Bartlett,
6:08 and which I think actually landed pretty well,
6:10 is that peptides aren't a drug class.
6:12 Think of them more like a platform.
6:14 They're like apps on your phone that are
6:15 all running on the same operating system, which just happens to be your body.
6:19 Insulin and oxytocin are both peptides, but they do wildly different things.
6:23 They just happen to be written in the same biological language.
6:26 Think of it like using the same programming language.
6:28 But that biological language is going to matter a lot when we
6:31 get to why a lot of these things are so hard to commercialize.
6:35 And I want to kill one specific myth right at the top.
6:38 Peptides are not new.
6:39 They are not some fancy biohacker invention from the last 10 years.
6:42 We've been making, injecting,
6:44 and saving lives with peptides for over a hundred years.
6:46 Quick timeline.
6:47 1921 to 1922.
6:49 Banting and best isolate insulin at the University of Toronto.
6:52 Insulin is a peptide.
6:54 It's 51 amino acids,
6:55 which you'd think means it's technically a biologic here
6:57 in the good old US of A, but it actually got grandfathered in as a peptide since
7:01 it was discovered before the FDA created that rule.
7:03 This was the first therapeutic peptide and it
7:05 fundamentally changed the trajectory of human medicine.
7:08 Type 1 diabetes went from a dissence
7:09 to a manageable chronic condition essentially overnight.
7:12 It's impossible to overstate what a big deal this was.
7:16 1954 Vincent Duvenyad synthesizes oxytocin in a lab at Cornell.
7:20 This was the first time a biologically
7:22 active peptide had been synthesized from scratch.
7:24 He got the Nobel Prize for it the following year,
7:26 which is how you know it's kind of a big deal.
7:28 And here I am, Ronic.
7:29 I just want my 100K subscriber plaque.
7:31 Oxytocin, for those of you who don't know,
7:33 is the molecule that makes you feel warm
7:34 and fuzzy when you hug someone you love.
7:36 It's also the molecule that causes uterine contractions during childirth.
7:39 Biology is not always subtle.
7:40 1982, recombinant human insulin made by Genentech and Eli
7:44 Liy just down the street, hit the market.
7:46 It was the first recominant drug ever approved.
7:49 We could now manufacture peptides at industrial scale
7:52 instead of harvesting them from pig and cow pancreases,
7:55 which yeah, that's exactly how we used to do it.
7:57 1985 to 1989 lupide and gazerellin
8:00 are approved for prostate cancer and endometriosis.
8:03 Lupralide is a peptide, a synthetic nonopeptide to be specific.
8:06 Namino acids, hence the nana.
8:08 It is a G&R agonist and by continuously stimulating the pituitary,
8:12 it paradoxically downregulates G&R receptors, suppresses luteinizing hormone,
8:17 and drops testosterone to castrate levels.
8:19 This is now a foundational tool in urology.
8:22 Every urologist in America has put a patient on Lupron at some point.
8:25 This is our poster child and we're going to come back to it later.
8:28 Poster child of course because I'm a urologist I'm biased that way.
8:30 And then we have 2005 to the present day.
8:33 GLP-1 agonist emerge lagglutide simaglutide trespatide.
8:37 These are also peptides.
8:39 The whole ozimpic wgoi mjaro zeppbound revolution is a peptide revolution.
8:43 The reason your aunt lost 40 lbs
8:45 before your cousin's wedding is peptide pharmacology.
8:48 As of today there are roughly a 100
8:49 peptide drugs approved globally with many more in development.
8:52 This is a mature, wellestablished, clinically validated class of molecules.
8:55 We know how to make them.
8:56 We know how to test them.
8:57 We know how to dose them.
8:58 We've been doing this for over a century.
9:00 So, anyone who tries to tell you that peptides are some cutting edge,
9:02 untested, unproven, probably dangerous new thing,
9:05 they're either lying to you or more likely,
9:07 they just don't know what they're talking about.
9:08 Peptides as a category are extremely legitimate.
9:11 What's new is which peptides we're talking about, how they're being sold,
9:15 and the regulatory environment that they have to move through.
9:18 Which brings us to the 19 peptides that have set the internet ablaze.
9:22 Between about 2014 and 2023,
9:24 compoundingarmacies in the United States could legally
9:27 prepare a specific list of peptides for patients.
9:29 The list wasn't infinite.
9:30 They had to go through a nomination process, which we'll get to.
9:33 But during that window, there were roughly 19 peptides that drove
9:36 the bulk of modern clinical and biohacking interest.
9:39 Let me group them for you because 19 peptides
9:40 is a lot to throw at you all at once.
9:42 Group one is what we're going to call
9:44 the growth hormone and IGF-1 access peptides.
9:46 These are the anti-aging and potentially muscle-building darlings.
9:50 CGC-1295, which is a GHR analog.
9:53 Ipamorin, a selective growth hormone secret.
9:56 Abutamorin, which is also known as MK677,
9:58 which is also not technically a peptide because it's
10:00 an oral ghrelin agonist and it's a small molecule,
10:02 but it got selected in the band anyways.
10:04 Then we've got CAX, which is sometimes pitched for lipolysis,
10:07 but really it's more of a neotropic.
10:09 And then PEG MGF, which is pitched as a post-injury muscle repair compound.
10:12 These are the peptides the anti-aging clinics and teleahalth
10:15 bros have been shouting about for over a decade.
10:17 Group two is tissue repair and regeneration peptides.
10:20 BPC57, which we've covered extensively on this channel.
10:23 TB500, the other half of the Wolverine stack.
10:26 KPV, which we're about to record a video on and we'll be dropping soon.
10:30 And then LL37, which is actually an antimicrobial peptide.
10:33 And then we've got GHKQ,
10:34 the copper peptide that dermatologists and biohackers fight over.
10:37 Group three is going to be longevity, sleep, and neuotropic peptides.
10:41 Epalon pitch for tomeres activation and longevity which
10:44 is the kind of claim that makes me
10:46 want to take a long sip of my energy drink and sigh audibly can't keep doing
10:54 to be fair epalon has shown the potential
10:56 to actually regenerate the pineal gland which would
10:59 really help with regulating your circadian rhythm which
11:01 Ronic gave up on his 20 years ago.
11:03 So I am actually interested in it.
11:04 We just need more data.
11:07 Stephen is overated at Yeah.
11:09 Yeah.
11:09 as your continued existence proves.
11:12 Well, people have a view video preferably this week.
11:18 Everyone's gonna be like sleep next video.
11:21 And then we've got Matsi pitched as an exercise mimedic.
11:24 DIP, Delta sleep inducing peptide.
11:26 CMAC shows up here too because it's also pitched a stroke recovery agent.
11:29 And then we've got Selen, which is a non-sedating anzolytic.
11:32 and dhexa which is a potent synaptogenic compound that like
11:35 MK677 isn't technically a peptide but it got canned anyways.
11:39 Group four includes immune genital urinary and alpha MSH peptides.
11:43 This is the group probably most relevant to my fellow
11:45 penis surgeon audience and it starts out with something called
11:48 thyosin alpha 1 which is actually approved in other countries
11:51 for the treatment of both hepatitis B and hepatitis C.
11:54 We've also got kissepin 10 which triggers G&RH release and is a research tool
11:57 of genuine GU interest and melanotan 2
12:00 which activates melanocorton receptors MC1, MC3 and MC4.
12:03 Melanitin 2 is also the one that gets marketed as an injectable tan and also
12:07 incidentally gives you raging erections that might just get you put on a list.
12:10 I live near a school.
12:11 I have to consider these things.
12:12 But yeah, it is a wild compound.
12:14 So those are the 19.
12:15 Well 17 technically if you don't count MK677 and DHEXA 19 if you do.
12:19 And then the FDA itself sometimes counts different numbers
12:22 depending on how they're batching the CJC1295 salt forms.
12:26 But you're going to hear everything from 14
12:28 to 19 depending on which news article you read.
12:30 And they're all talking about basically the same list of molecules.
12:32 So don't let the numbers confuse you.
12:34 But what matters is that from 2014 to 2023,
12:37 these compounds were the engine of the modern peptide wellness market.
12:40 Anti-aging clinics, longevity docs, functional medicine practices,
12:44 sports recovery clinics, men's health clinics right here.
12:47 Even some legitimate urology and dermatology
12:49 practices use these peptides and a lot of people were using these compounds
12:52 on a lot of patients and getting good results.
12:55 And then on a random Friday in September of 2023, that all changed.
12:59 But before we can talk about that fateful day and what
13:02 it happened and why it was such a big deal,
13:04 we actually have to rewind the clock even more and go back to 2012.
13:08 In the fall of 2012, a compounding pharmacy in Framingham, Massachusetts,
13:12 called the New England Compounding Center shipped
13:14 contaminated steroid injections to clinics in 20 states.
13:17 Don't get excited.
13:18 They weren't those steroids.
13:19 We're talking about injectable methyl predniscolone acetate,
13:22 the type of steroid your Mima needs for her rheumatism.
13:25 But this particular batch of steroids was actually
13:27 being used for epidural injections for back pain.
13:30 And yeah, they were contaminated with a black mold called exosereroym rostratum.
13:35 If that sounds like something out of a horror novel,
13:37 that's because it basically was.
13:39 We're talking upside down place level bad.
13:42 751 patients got sick and 64 people died because of this.
13:47 This is one of the worst pharmaceutical disasters in modern American history.
13:51 And almost nobody talks about it anymore
13:53 because it's been overshadowed by the opioid epidemic,
13:55 COVID, and every other horrible thing we've been subjected to.
13:58 But it fundamentally changed how compounding is regulated in this country.
14:03 When investigators went into the NECC facility,
14:06 they found visible mold growth, bacterial contamination in the clean rooms,
14:10 and what the prosecutor later described as quote,
14:12 "a fungal zoo." The owner eventually plead guilty to manslaughter, 64 counts.
14:18 So, Congress had to act.
14:19 You know, back when they actually did things.
14:21 In November of 2013, they passed the Drug Quality and Security Act, the DQSA.
14:26 And the DQSA did something really important.
14:28 It created a two-tier system for compoundingies in the United States.
14:33 Tier one is 503A.
14:35 These are traditional pharmacy compounders.
14:37 They fill patient specific prescriptions.
14:39 Your local compounding pharmacy, if your physician,
14:41 writes you a prescription for a custom strength testosterone
14:43 cream or a weird dose of liothyine or whatever,
14:47 that pharmacy is operating under 503A.
14:50 They're regulated mostly by state boards of pharmacy,
14:52 but with the FDA as backs stop authority.
14:55 Tier two is 503b and they're way up here.
14:58 These are actually called outsourcing facilities.
15:00 They operate more like pharmaceutical manufacturers.
15:03 They can compound very specific drugs in larger
15:05 quantities without individual prescriptions for sale to hospitals,
15:08 clinics, and surgery centers.
15:10 They have to comply with current good manufacturing
15:12 practices which are super super strict and they're
15:15 the same standards that pharmaceutical manufacturers operate under
15:18 CGMP and they are directly regulated by the FDA.
15:22 I've had the privilege to tour empoweries 503b
15:25 manufacturing facility and I will tell you it
15:28 is the most impressive industrialcale manufacturing facility I've
15:32 ever seen and I live in Lily's backyard.
15:35 Now here's where peptides enter the picture.
15:37 Under 503A, a compounding pharmacy can only prepare a bulk
15:40 drug substance if one of three conditions is met.
15:43 Number one, the substance has a USP or NF monograph.
15:47 Number two, the substance is a component of an FDA approved drug.
15:51 Or number three, the substance appears on what's
15:53 called the 503A bulks list for peptides at that time back in 2013 and 2014
15:59 that were not already FDA approved and didn't have monographs.
16:02 The bulk list was the only path.
16:04 And so the FDA opened the nomination process in 2013.
16:07 Industry submitted over 2,000 nominations.
16:10 The FDA refined that down to about 740
16:13 substances and then categorized each one into separate buckets.
16:17 Category 1 included substances that were
16:19 still considered to be under evaluation, but they appear to be safe enough
16:22 that the FDA was going to exercise enforcement discretion.
16:26 In plain English, category means we're still looking
16:28 at this, but you can compound it in the meantime.
16:30 Category two are substances that the FDA
16:33 has determined present significant safety risk.
16:35 Compounding these is prohibited.
16:37 Full stop.
16:38 And then we have category three, which are substances that the FDA
16:41 just didn't have enough information to evaluate.
16:43 These are in regulatory purgatory and they're basically stuck there.
16:46 For nearly a decade, from around 2014 to 2023,
16:49 most of the popular peptides that we
16:50 just went through were sitting in category 1, enforcement discretion,
16:53 available at your friendly neighborhood
16:55 compounding pharmacy with a doctor's prescription.
16:57 I personally came into this space in 2018,
16:59 which was right in the middle of what many described as the peptide golden era.
17:02 And look, there was a lot of good that came out of that era.
17:05 Patients with legitimate issues got access to novel therapies
17:08 that the traditional pharma pipeline was just never going to develop.
17:12 I've treated patients whose lives were immeasurably
17:14 improved because of access to these compounded peptides.
17:16 My life personally was changed in part due to MK677.
17:20 Again, not technically a peptide, but that's not the point.
17:22 So, this really isn't a story with villains and heroes.
17:24 Maybe.
17:25 There's actually a pretty good argument to be
17:26 made that there may have been a pharma
17:28 lobbying boogeyman or boogie woman behind the regulatory
17:30 snafu that you're about to hear about.
17:32 But what we do know for certain is
17:34 that this is a story about a regulatory framework trying
17:37 to do its best with a category of molecules
17:39 that simply don't fit neatly into any of the existing boxes.
17:42 And then the framework broke in the sketchiest way possible.
17:45 On Friday, September 29th, 2023, the FDA did something that, in my opinion,
17:49 will go down as one of the strangest regulatory actions of the decade.
17:53 They quietly swapped out a PDF on their website.
17:56 That's it.
17:57 That was the whole regulatory action.
17:59 They updated the category 1 list.
18:01 And when the updated list came out,
18:03 19 of the peptides that have been sitting in category
18:05 1 for years had been moved without any public hearing,
18:07 without any press release, without any prior notice to category 2.
18:11 Overnight, these compounds went from legal to compound to prohibited.
18:15 With a stroke of a PDF upload,
18:16 an entire sector of the wellness economy was made illegal.
18:20 The justification the FDA provided was
18:22 that these substances presented significant safety risks.
18:25 But what they didn't provide was actual compound specific justifications.
18:28 They didn't even site specific adverse event reports and they
18:32 didn't publish the data they are basing this on.
18:34 They did not go through the administrative
18:36 procedure acts notice and comment rulemaking process which
18:39 is the legal mechanism by which these kinds
18:41 of substantiative decisions are supposed to happen.
18:44 They just arbitrarily change the list.
18:46 Now I want to be careful here.
18:48 I'm not going to sit here and tell you
18:50 I know exactly why this happened because I don't.
18:52 Nobody outside the FDA that was there at that time actually does.
18:56 Now, there are theories and some people
18:58 think it could have been genuine safety concern.
19:00 But some people like this guy think it was
19:02 pressure from pharmaceutical lobbyists who are watching their patent protected
19:06 GLP-1 molecules get slowly chipped away at by compounding
19:10 competitors and wanted to them over any way they could.
19:13 Some people think that it was a career regulator making a unilateral call.
19:16 And some people think it was all three.
19:18 I genuinely don't know.
19:19 But what I do know is that these compounds worked.
19:22 I prescribed most of them and patients have been using them safely for years.
19:26 So when the FDA flipped that switch in September 2023,
19:29 they didn't make the peptides go away.
19:31 They couldn't make the peptides go away.
19:33 These are chemically simple molecules that could
19:35 be synthesized at any reasonably equipped lab
19:37 in any reasonably developed country and in some
19:40 maybe not so reasonably developed countries.
19:42 What they did instead is create the largest
19:44 black market in modern America since prohibition.
19:47 Sorry, gray market to all my lab rat legion out there.
19:49 But here's the thing about prohibition.
19:51 It's never actually worked.
19:53 Not with alcohol in the 20s.
19:54 Not with cannabis starting in the 70s.
19:56 Not with MDMA or psilocybin or any of the other
19:59 compounds we've tried to make disappear with a political decree.
20:03 And guess what?
20:03 It hasn't worked with peptides either.
20:05 What happened after September 2023 was extremely predictable.
20:09 The demand didn't evaporate.
20:10 It just went underground.
20:12 Within weeks, a whole new crop of websites
20:14 popped up selling these exact compounds as research chemicals,
20:17 not for human consumption.
20:18 Totally for your lab rat.
20:19 Again, shout out to my elaborate legion.
20:21 I love you guys.
20:22 And these sites shipped from China, Turkey, India, Muldova.
20:25 They accepted cryptocurrency.
20:27 They had names like research peptides.biz and peptide bros.io.
20:31 They were not FDA regulated, not USP tested,
20:33 and not sterility verified, and honestly not really accountable to anyone.
20:37 And patients who had just lost access to pharmagra licensed
20:41 pharmacy prepared peptides started ordering
20:43 them because the alternative was nothing.
20:46 And simultaneously, the GLP-1 revolution kicked into overdrive.
20:50 Simaglutide and Trespatide went from niche diabetes drugs to cultural phenomena.
20:55 Everyone on the planet had an opinion on osimpic by early 2024.
20:58 And because of the way these drugs work and the fact that they're peptides,
21:01 the word peptide became a household term in the way it never had been before.
21:05 People who had never heard of a peptide
21:07 in their lives were now asking their doctors about peptides.
21:10 And when their doctor said, "I'm sorry,
21:12 we can't prescribe most of these anymore." They went online and Tik Tok
21:16 of course had already figured out how to monetize every piece of it.
21:19 Influencers were pitching VPC57 to rehab from injuries.
21:22 Creators were walking viewers through their first self- injection.
21:25 We had before and after photos of GOP1 weight loss,
21:28 pages upon pages upon pages of content promoting compounds
21:31 that were at that point federally illegal to compound.
21:34 And that gray market that the FDA created,
21:37 it's now estimated to be worth billions of dollars.
21:39 Kennedy has cited this number himself in interviews.
21:42 billions of gray market peptide money flowing to labs nobody can regulate
21:46 for products nobody can quality control being
21:48 injected by patients who nobody is supervising.
21:51 If you wanted to design a policy to make peptide use more dangerous,
21:54 less supervised, and less evidence-based, this would be that exact policy.
21:57 So, the obvious question and one that gets asked in pretty
22:00 much every comment section of every peptide video I've ever made is,
22:02 if these compounds work,
22:04 why doesn't some pharmaceutical company just run the trials,
22:06 get them FDA approved, and then sell them like regular drugs?
22:09 Great question and there are two reasons
22:11 and we've got to walk through both of them.
22:13 Reason one is the patent problem.
22:15 In June of 2013, the Supreme Court decided
22:17 a case called Association for Molecular Pathology versus Myriad Genetics.
22:22 Myriad was a biotech company that held patents on the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes.
22:27 And these are genes that when mutated dramatically
22:29 increase a woman's risk of breast and ovarian cancer.
22:32 They also happen to increase a man's chance of developing prostate cancer.
22:35 And Myriad's patents gave them an effective monopoly on BRCA testing,
22:39 and they enforced that monopoly very aggressively.
22:42 They sent ceased and desist letters.
22:43 They sued competitors.
22:45 They charged over $3,000 per test.
22:48 The Supreme Court's ruling was unanimous, 90,
22:50 and it was written by Justice Clarence Thomas.
22:53 And the core holding was this.
22:54 A naturally occurring DNA segment is a product of nature,
22:58 and it is not patent eligible merely because it's just been isolated.
23:02 In other words, if it exists in nature, you can't patent it.
23:05 You can only patent something that you actually invented.
23:08 Now, pause for a second and think about why this is relevant to peptides.
23:12 BPC157 is a partial sequence derived
23:15 from a protein naturally found in human gastric juice.
23:18 TB500 is a synthetic fragment of thymus and beta 4,
23:21 which is a naturally occurring human peptide.
23:24 GHKCU is a naturally occurring copper binding
23:27 peptide that circulates in your bloodstream while
23:29 KPV is a three amino acid fragment of alpha MSH which your body already makes.
23:34 Every single one of these is at its core a naturally occurring human molecule
23:39 which means under myriad genetics none of them
23:41 are patentable as composition of matter claims.
23:44 And without patent protection there's no commercial pathway
23:47 because here's the brutal economics of drug development.
23:50 Getting molecule through phase 1, phase 2,
23:52 and phase three clinical trials to FDA approval
23:55 costs somewhere between$1 and2 billion dollar with a B.
23:59 Nobody spends $2 billion on a trial program if the day the drug is approved,
24:03 anyone in the world can legally copy it and sell it cheaper.
24:06 You don't get a return on your investment.
24:08 You go bankrupt.
24:09 This is not a hypothetical.
24:11 This is exactly why there is no commercial BPC157.
24:14 Nobody's going to fund a $2 billion trial for a compound they can't protect.
24:18 Now the GLP-1 drugs sidestep this by being modified novel forms.
24:23 Simaglutide is not endogenous GLP-1.
24:26 Native GLP-1 has a halflife of about 2 minutes
24:28 which makes it useless as a once weekly injection.
24:31 Simaglutide has been engineered with specific amino acid substitutions
24:35 and a fatty acid side chain to extend its halfife.
24:38 Trazepide is a dual GIP and GOP1 agonist that doesn't exist in nature at all.
24:41 And these are patentable and that's why Nova
24:43 Nordisk and Eli Liy can afford to sell them.
24:46 So, in theory, Pharma could do the same thing with BPC157 or TB500.
24:50 Make a modified version, patent it, run the trials.
24:52 But here's the catch.
24:53 Unlike native GLP1, which has a 2-minute half-life problem,
24:56 these native forms seem to work just fine as is.
24:59 So, why spend $2 billion developing a modified version
25:03 of BPC57 when the plain jane vanilla version already does
25:06 what it needs to, and anyone with an internet
25:08 connection can already buy it from a gray market supplier.
25:10 The economic incentive isn't there.
25:12 Reason two is the disease state problem.
25:14 FDA approval requires a drug to target a specific disease state.
25:18 That's how the regulatory framework is structured.
25:20 You have to say this drug for this condition
25:23 in this patient population at this dose.
25:25 You have to run a phase three trial showing that your drug
25:28 treats that specific condition better than placebo or standard of care.
25:32 And that whole paradigm is part of the reason why American
25:34 healthcare is really more sick care than focusing on health and wellness,
25:38 which is a whole other rant that I'm not going to get into right now.
25:41 And so many of the peptides that we've been talking
25:43 about are marketed for things that aren't formal disease states.
25:46 Tissue repair in an aging athlete, longevity,
25:48 general wellness, cognitive enhancement, vague functional improvements.
25:52 These aren't ICD10 codes.
25:54 The FDA doesn't have an approval pathway for making you feel better.
25:57 And if that isn't a big glaring banner for how healthcare in the US,
26:00 again, is totally screwed.
26:02 I don't know what is.
26:03 Which means even if the patent problem got solved,
26:05 you'd still run into the indication problem.
26:07 What disease are you treating with GHKCU?
26:10 inflammate aging.
26:11 It's not a real disease.
26:12 Although I feel like it is every time I wake up and look in the mirror.
26:15 It's a concept.
26:16 And you can't run a phase three trial on a concept.
26:19 Put those two problems together and you get exactly what we have now.
26:22 Strong therapeutic interest with limited commercial pathway and then
26:25 a massive gray market that is formed to fill the vacuum.
26:28 The system isn't broken because the FDA is evil.
26:30 The system is broken because our drug
26:32 approval framework was built for our pharmaceutical
26:34 industry that made money by patenting
26:36 novel molecules to treat discrete diseases.
26:39 and peptides just don't fit that mold.
26:41 Okay, that brings us to now.
26:43 Through 2024 and even into 2026,
26:45 the peptide reclassification issue just simmered.
26:48 The FDA did remove a handful of substances from category
26:50 2 in September 2024 after the nominators withdrew their nominations.
26:54 CJC1295, Iporan, AOD9604, thymus alpha 1, and Selen.
26:59 These got bumped out,
27:00 but they didn't go into category one where they could be made again.
27:03 it just went into a sort of regulatory limbo
27:05 while PCAC meetings happened in October and December of 2024.
27:09 And at those meetings,
27:10 the committee mostly voted against recommending these substances
27:12 for inclusion into the 503A bulks list, which again, as we talked about,
27:16 is where they have to be if they're going to be manufactured.
27:18 So, nothing really changed.
27:20 The gray market kept growing.
27:21 Biohackers kept injecting.
27:22 And then came February 27th, 2026.
27:25 On that day, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.
27:28 Kennedy Jr.
27:29 appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience episode 2461.
27:33 and he made a pretty big announcement.
27:34 He said on Joe's podcast that the FDA was going to move
27:37 approximately 14 of the 19 category 2 peptides back to category 1.
27:42 Now, this was not a regulatory action.
27:44 This was a policy announcement made
27:45 in a three-hour interview with an MMA announcer/podcaster/ comedian.
27:50 Nothing actually had happened yet.
27:51 Kennedy just signaled intent and that's all.
27:53 For the next six weeks, everyone in the compounding space, the peptide industry,
27:57 the biohacker community, the regulatory law firms,
28:00 everyone was just holding their breath,
28:01 waiting to see if the FDA was actually going to follow through on this or if it
28:05 was just going to evaporate the way a lot
28:07 of politician statements have evaporated in the past.
28:09 Well, it definitely didn't evaporate.
28:12 On April 15, 2026, the FDA issued a federal register notice,
28:16 docket number FDA 2025N6895.
28:20 That notice announced the formal referral of seven
28:23 peptides to the pharmacy compounding advisory committee,
28:25 as I mentioned, the PCAC,
28:27 for review at a meeting scheduled for July 23rd and 24th, 2026.
28:31 Simultaneously, the FDA administratively removed 12 peptides from category 2,
28:35 effective 7 days from publication.
28:37 And that was the regulatory action everyone was looking for.
28:40 It wasn't the podcast.
28:41 It was the Federal Register noticed published April 16th, effective April 23rd.
28:46 Coincidentally, I learned about it while on the airplane
28:48 going to go interview with Steven Bartlett.
28:50 No pressure.
28:51 Future Alex popping in here with some rumors that, if true,
28:54 could radically change GOP1 peptide access in America, potentially forever.
28:59 Yeah, I know.
28:59 We just finished this whole video.
29:01 We wrapped.
29:01 Ronic started the edit.
29:02 I came home, unpacked, slept in my own bed for the first time in days,
29:05 hugged my kids, drank a victory white monster, and I thought I was done.
29:09 And then then the internet did what the internet always does,
29:12 which is wait exactly long enough for me to feel accomplished.
29:15 and then drop a bomb in my lap, which in this case was Friday.
29:18 So yeah, I'm recording this addendum in a different hoodie.
29:21 Ronic is probably have got to figure out
29:22 where to put this in in the original video.
29:24 Sorry, Ronic.
29:24 I owe you a free vow of testosterone.
29:28 I'm kidding.
29:29 Please don't report me to the medical board.
29:30 Let's get into it.
29:31 Okay, so here's what happened.
29:32 On April 16th, a tweet dropped from an account
29:35 claiming to have spoken to an HHS insider.
29:37 The allegations were wild.
29:39 Eli Lily is actively aggressively pushing the FDA
29:42 and the HHS to reclassify GLP-1 peptides, simaglutide, trespide,
29:47 and in particular their next generation
29:49 compound reatride as biologics rather than drugs.
29:53 That single post caught fire.
29:55 Within 72 hours, it had been amplified by a halfozen
29:58 other accounts with serious reach in the compounding and biohacking space.
30:01 By the weekend, it was everywhere on my feed.
30:03 People were asking me about it in the comments and my inbox was full of it,
30:06 which is different than how my wife says that I'm full of it.
30:09 Now, let me give you the fair assessment.
30:10 The specific claim that there is an HHS insider
30:13 feeding information about active lobbying pressure is single source,
30:16 one tweet, not independently corroborated.
30:19 And I can't tell you whether that specific allegation is true or not.
30:21 And I'm not going to pretend like I can.
30:24 But here is what is absolutely verifiably on the record true.
30:28 And this is the part that matters.
30:30 Eli Liy, the guys just down the street from where I'm recording this, is suing
30:33 the FDA to have Redat True Tide classified as a biologic rather than a drug.
30:38 That isn't a rumor.
30:39 That isn't a tweet.
30:40 That is a federal lawsuit filed in the Southern
30:42 District of Indiana on September 3rd, 2024.
30:45 Eli Lily and Company versus Bera, case number 124 CV01503.
30:51 You can look it up.
30:52 And here's the dispute.
30:53 Redat True Tide, which is Lily's NextG triple agonist
30:56 and one that we've talked about a lot in this channel.
30:58 Check the video up above.
30:59 Hits GLP-1, GIP, and glucagon receptors.
31:02 And it does this with a main backbone of 39 alpha amino acids.
31:06 Under current FDA interpretation,
31:08 you need more than 40 alpha amino acids to qualify as a biologic.
31:11 39 is a drug, 41 is a biologic.
31:14 That one amino acid is the difference between
31:16 two of the biggest regulatory universes in modern pharmaceuticals.
31:19 And so Lily is arguing that reatrite actually has 41 amino acids if
31:24 you count a second small side chain
31:26 attached by what's called an isopeptide bond.
31:28 Two non-alpha amino acids hanging off the main structure.
31:31 Count those and reatride crosses the threshold.
31:34 The FDA said no alpha amino acids only.
31:36 Retatruide is a drug.
31:38 And then Lily sued.
31:39 And on September 30th, 2025, a federal district court judge in Indiana,
31:43 my own backyard, sided with Lily partially.
31:46 The court vacated the FDA's classification of reatride as a drug.
31:50 The agency now has to go back and reconsider
31:52 and the case is now on appeal to the seventh circuit.
31:55 In other words, this fight is live and going on right now.
31:58 The rumor about Lily pushing hard on this probably isn't even news.
32:01 They've been pushing hard on this in federal court for 19 months.
32:04 Whether there is also an HHS side
32:06 push happening behind closed doors, I can't verify.
32:09 But the broader strategy, the intent, and the legal architecture,
32:12 all of that is public record and undeniable.
32:14 So why does Lily care?
32:16 Why is Eli Liy, one of the largest pharmaceutical companies on the planet,
32:20 spending who knows how many millions of dollars
32:22 in legal fees to argue about two amino acids?
32:25 And why should you care about it?
32:27 Because of how much money is on the line.
32:30 And I'm going to walk you through the math because once you understand it,
32:33 you're going to understand everything.
32:34 When a pharmaceutical company gets a new
32:36 drug approved under the standard small molecule pathway,
32:38 which is the one we talked about in the main video,
32:40 they get 5 years of exclusivity under the Hatch Waxman Act.
32:44 5 years.
32:44 Now, there's some nuance and exceptions there,
32:46 but that's what we're looking at in general.
32:48 So, after that, generic manufacturers can file
32:50 an abbreviated application and start making cheaper copies.
32:53 And once those generics hit the market,
32:55 prices typically drop by 80 to 90% within 12 months,
32:58 which is the entire reason why Viagra,
33:00 which used to cost north of $70 a pill, is now basically free.
33:03 Selenil went generic in 2017.
33:05 Seals went generic in 2018.
33:06 The patents expired, the generics flooded in, and prices collapsed.
33:09 So, American men with erect function could finally afford to have sex again.
33:13 Free market capitalism kind of beautiful when it works.
33:15 But biologics get a completely different deal.
33:18 Under the Biologics Price Competition and Innovation Act of 2009,
33:22 the BPCIA, Biologics get 12 years of exclusivity.
33:26 12, not five.
33:27 And even after those 12 years,
33:29 biosimilars, which are biologic versions of generics,
33:31 do not collapse prices the way traditional generics do.
33:34 The median time to actual biosimilar competition in the US is over 20 years.
33:38 20.
33:39 And here's the kicker and the one that really matters for this conversation.
33:43 Compoundingarmacies cannot compound biologics.
33:46 Full stop.
33:47 They need a biologics license application, a BLA,
33:50 which again we covered in the main
33:52 video costs somewhere between 80 and $150 million
33:55 to establish and has never in the history
33:58 of the FDA been granted to a compounding pharmacy.
34:00 So the moment a molecule gets classified as a biologic,
34:03 the 503A and 503b compounding pathways are closed to it forever.
34:07 End of discussion.
34:09 So just think about what happens if Lily wins this fight.
34:11 Retatrutide and potentially simaglutide and even trespatide by extension
34:15 would get 12 years of exclusivity instead of five.
34:18 Biosimilars would be delayed for decades.
34:20 Compoundingarmacies would be permanently locked out.
34:23 Medicare negotiation leverage would be diminished and the price
34:25 of GLP once which is already destroying
34:27 household budgets and insurance formulators across the country
34:30 would stay at pharmaceutical company pricing levels essentially forever.
34:34 This isn't speculation.
34:35 This is the basic architecture of US drug regulation applied
34:39 to a very specific chemistry argument about whether a couple of side
34:42 chain amino acids get to count two amino acids billions of dollars
34:46 maybe hundreds of billions over the lifetime of the GLP-1 category.
34:50 And here is why I am taking this seriously and why you should too.
34:54 Because we have seen this exact same playbook run before in urology
34:58 in the male fertility space on a hormone
35:00 my patients have depended on for decades.
35:03 And that hormone, that glyoprotein is hCG, human corionic anatropen.
35:08 HCG has been around since the 1930s as a purified hormone.
35:12 And since the 1950s as an FDA
35:14 approved injectable for literally almost a century,
35:17 hCG has been a workhorse medication in men's health.
35:20 In urology specifically,
35:22 we use it for low testosterone, for fertility preservation,
35:25 for testicular atrophy during testosterone replacement,
35:27 for delayed puberty, for undecided testicles and boys.
35:30 It is a mainstay.
35:32 Every urologist, every endocrinologist,
35:34 every men's health doc in America has written dozens,
35:36 hundreds, thousands of prescriptions for hCG.
35:39 Or at least they did up until March 23rd, 2020.
35:42 Before that time, hCG was classified as a drug.
35:45 It could be compounded by 503A and 503barmacies.
35:48 A 10,000 unit vial of compounded HCG cost
35:51 somewhere in the range of 50 to 80 bucks.
35:53 It was available, it was affordable, and it was everywhere.
35:56 But then on March 23rd, 2020,
35:59 a provision of the Biologics Price Competition and Innovation Act of 2009,
36:03 the same BPCIA we just talked about
36:05 took effect after a 10-year transition period.
36:07 That provision transitioned hCG along with FSH LH and a handful
36:11 of other hormones from drug status to biologic status overnight.
36:15 So what happened?
36:16 80% of the compoundingies that have been making hCG had to stop overnight.
36:21 Patients who had been paying $50 for a vial suddenly had to pay five
36:24 to seven times more than that for the brandame
36:26 versions including pregnant Novaril or Avadril.
36:29 Some of those brands went into shortage almost immediately because they just
36:32 couldn't scale to replace the compounded
36:34 supply and critically for men's health specifically.
36:37 And this is the part that makes me really mad.
36:39 There is no FDA approved hCG indication
36:41 for adult men with hypogadatism or male fertility issues.
36:45 So now we're using a branded biologic five times
36:48 more expensive product off label and dosages that don't
36:50 make sense for an indication the FDA has
36:53 never even considered because we have no other option.
36:55 The population that got hurt, young men trying to build their families.
36:59 Hypoconatal men trying to preserve fertility.
37:01 Men on TRT trying to keep their testicles somewhat functional.
37:04 Boys with unescended testicles whose families are now paying
37:06 a fortune for something that used to cost basically nothing.
37:09 Men whose marriages depend on being able to have a child.
37:12 that population, my patients, hurt by a regulatory reclassification that no
37:17 patient ever asked for and provides no
37:19 meaningful safety benefit because hCG is one
37:22 of the most well-characterized hormones in medicine.
37:24 The excuse that hCG is a biologic because
37:27 it's a complex glyoprotein derived from a biological source.
37:30 Sure, fine.
37:31 But guess what?
37:31 We've been safely compounding it for decades.
37:34 The reclassification didn't make hcg safer
37:36 and made it more expensive and less accessible.
37:39 So guess what?
37:40 That's the playbook.
37:41 That's the template.
37:42 And it is exactly what Lily is trying to do with reatride
37:45 and by extension potentially simaglutide and trespathide
37:48 if the door opens wide enough.
37:50 So I encourage you if you care about this and by this I
37:53 mean whether or not GLP-1 medications will stay at their current price
37:56 point whether biosimilar competition will ever
37:59 meaningfully arrive or whether compoundingies will
38:01 even have the option to make these drugs during the next shortage cycle.
38:05 You can actually do something.
38:06 Call your senators.
38:07 Call your congressional representative.
38:09 Tell them that you're a constituent and tell them
38:11 that you're paying attention to the retatride classification fight.
38:14 Tell them that you oppose the quiet expansion of biologic
38:17 status to compounds that have historically been regulated as drugs.
38:21 Tell them that reclassifying small molecule scale peptides as biologics simply
38:25 because a pharmaceutical company wants longer exclusivity is bad public policy.
38:30 You don't have to be a pharmacist or a doctor to make that call.
38:33 You don't have to explain what an isopeptide bond is.
38:35 You just have to say this.
38:36 I'm a constituent.
38:37 I care about GLP-1 drug pricing and I oppose reclassifying GLP1s as biologics.
38:43 So that's it.
38:44 That's the ask.
38:45 Five minutes of your time.
38:46 Five minutes that actually matters because this kind of technical
38:49 regulatory fight almost always gets decided by whoever is paying attention.
38:53 And right now the only people that are
38:54 paying attention are the pharmaceutical companies and their lobbyists.
38:57 All right, there you go.
38:58 That's the addendum, the rumor, the lawsuit,
39:01 the hCG parallel, and that's the ask.
39:04 So, is Eli Liy actively lobbying HHS behind
39:07 closed doors the way the April 16th tweet claimed?
39:10 I don't know.
39:10 I can't verify it.
39:12 If someone shows me independent corroboration,
39:14 I will totally update this in another video.
39:16 But the broader strategy that the tweet described, that's absolutely happening.
39:20 It's in federal court in the public with real legal filings and real stakes.
39:25 If Lily wins this fight, GOPs stay expensive forever.
39:29 Compounders stay locked out.
39:30 Biosimilars are delayed by decades.
39:32 And the hCG disaster gets replayed at a scale about a hundred times bigger.
39:37 And ultimately, we're the ones that end up paying the price.
39:40 Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
39:42 And Ronic, sorry again for the different hoodie.
39:44 I owe you two free vials of testosterone.
39:47 Kidding.
39:48 Catch you in the main video.
39:49 The seven peptides going before the PCAC
39:52 on July 23rd and 24th break down like this.
39:55 On day one, July 23rd, we've got BPC-157, KPV, TV500, and MOS C.
40:00 And then on day two, July 24th,
40:02 we got emadelide aka delta sleepinducing peptider, dip, cmax, and epitalon.
40:08 And a second group of compounds is expected to follow in later PCAC meetings.
40:12 GHKCU, dhexa, ibutamor, melanotan 2, ll37.
40:15 These haven't been formally scheduled yet, but they're in the pipeline.
40:18 Now, I have a theory, and I want to be clear about this.
40:21 This is just speculation on my part.
40:22 Nobody at the HHS has told me this.
40:24 This is just what it looks like
40:25 from an outsider who pays attention to this space.
40:27 Throughout 2025 and into 2026, the FDA under Dr.
40:31 Marty McCary has led a genuinely brutal enforcement
40:34 crackdown on compoundingies that have been making GLP-1 products.
40:37 Now, compounded semiglutide and compounded trespide
40:40 had exploded in popularity during the shortage
40:42 periods because the commercial guys just couldn't keep up with the demand.
40:46 And so, compounders were making money that Lily
40:48 and Novon Nordis believed belonged to them.
40:50 So, the FDA under pressure from lobbyists, I believe, shut that down hard.
40:54 We're talking warning letters,
40:55 enforcement actions, subpoenas, constant inspections.
40:58 It was not subtle.
40:59 It was mob enforcer level.
41:00 So why does this matter?
41:02 Because it was likely the quidd proquo promised by the Trump
41:05 administration to get his Trump RX initiative off the ground,
41:08 which is positioned to sell brandame GLP1s directly to consumers at a discount,
41:12 cutting out compounders entirely.
41:14 And from that angle,
41:15 restoring access to peptides is a lot like extending an olive branch.
41:18 Hey compounders, we took your GLP-1 business,
41:20 but here's your BPC157 business back.
41:22 Now, please shut up.
41:23 go home and stop lobbying Congress.
41:25 You're welcome.
41:26 Is this exactly what happened?
41:28 I don't know.
41:28 I can't prove it.
41:29 I'm not in those meetings.
41:30 But the timing is suggestive and the regulatory analysts in the compounding
41:34 space have been saying more or less the same thing.
41:36 Okay.
41:37 So, here's the part where I need to temper
41:38 expectations because there is a tremendous amount of misinformation
41:42 on social media right now suggesting that BPC 157
41:45 is going to be on pharmacy shelves in August.
41:47 And it's not.
41:48 And here's why.
41:49 The PCAC meeting in July is an advisory committee meeting.
41:53 The PCAC's job is to review the data, hear from nominators,
41:57 listen to public comment, and then vote on a recommendation.
42:00 That recommendation is not binding.
42:02 The FDA can follow it or not follow it.
42:04 Historically, the FDA follows the PCAC recommendations
42:08 most of the time, but not always.
42:10 And even if the PCAC votes favorably on every single peptide,
42:14 the FDA accepts every single recommendation,
42:16 there's still a legal process that has
42:18 to happen before anything can really change.
42:20 And that process is called notice and comment rulemaking.
42:23 It's governed by the Administrative Procedure Act.
42:25 It requires the FDA to publish a proposed rule in the Federal Register,
42:29 open a public comment period that typically lasts 30 to 60 days,
42:32 review and to respond to those comments, and then issue a final rule.
42:36 All of that takes time and so in the best case we're looking at maybe
42:39 12 months if we go on precedent alone from PCAC vote to final rule.
42:43 Now again this FDA has moved lightning fast to other approvals.
42:46 So maybe we'll be surprised in the more realistic
42:49 or worst case scenario maybe 18 to 24 months.
42:52 So even with a maximally favorable PCAC
42:54 outcome in July 2026 compounders likely won't
42:57 get full legal access to these peptides
42:59 until late 2026 if things move lightning fast.
43:02 But honestly, it could be early 20s 27 or later.
43:05 July 2026 is a milestone, but it isn't the finish line.
43:08 And on top of all that, let me underline
43:10 one more time what category 1 reclassification actually means.
43:14 It means that these peptides can be legally compounded by licensedarmacies
43:18 with a physician's prescription under enforcement
43:21 discretion while they remain under FDA evaluation.
43:25 Which means no, these things are not FDA approved.
43:28 It does not mean proven safe and effective in phase three trials.
43:31 It doesn't mean standardized dosing.
43:33 And it certainly doesn't mean insurance coverage.
43:35 It means compounding eligibility,
43:37 which is real and valuable and a meaningful step
43:39 towards patient safety over the current gray market nightmare.
43:42 But it isn't the same as approval.
43:44 And I want that to be clear because I have watched people
43:46 online get this wrong for months if not years at this point.
43:49 And it's driving me crazy.
43:51 So what do we do with all of this?
43:52 If you're a clinician watching this, here's what I'm
43:55 going to be telling the room at AUA in May.
43:57 And here's what I'm going to tell you.
43:58 I've got four things.
44:00 One is educate yourself now.
44:02 The regulatory landscape is shifting underneath us.
44:04 PCAC review begins in July.
44:06 If reclassification proceeds,
44:07 a lot of patients are going to walk into your clinic
44:09 in late 2026 or 2027 asking about peptides if they aren't already.
44:14 You don't have to become an expert,
44:15 but you should at least know what these compounds are,
44:17 what the evidence does and does not show, and where the risks actually lie.
44:21 You should also know what your patients are already doing because I
44:25 promise you a non-trivial fraction of them are already using these things,
44:29 including a lot of the people watching this channel.
44:31 Number two is providers need to counsel patients on gray market dangers.
44:35 Patients sourcing so-called research chemicals face adulteration,
44:38 endotoxin contamination, unsterile manufacturing, and zero quality control.
44:42 Again, it's like gas station sushi.
44:44 You can get lucky and it could be fine, or it could be terrible.
44:46 If a patient tells you that they're using a compound, don't shame them.
44:49 Don't reflexively just tell them to stop.
44:51 Instead, ask them where they're getting it.
44:54 Talk about the real risks.
44:55 Redirect them towards legitimate channels when those channels become available.
44:58 Meet them where they are.
45:00 Three, advocate for rigorous human trials.
45:03 Some of these compounds have genuine therapeutic promise.
45:05 Thyosin alpha 1 has enough data to justify fast-tracked phase 3 trials.
45:09 AOD9604 is a plausible obesity adjunct and these are molecules that deserve
45:14 real clinical investigation and the compounding
45:16 framework isn't a substitute for that.
45:18 Reclassification is a pressure valve.
45:20 It's not a substitute for evidence.
45:22 And finally, we've got number four.
45:24 Prescribe judiciously when legal.
45:26 If and when these pep guides return to category 1,
45:28 you'll be in a good position to prescribe them.
45:30 And that's a privilege and a responsibility.
45:32 Don't be the guy writing random scripts for anyone who just walks in the door.
45:35 But also, don't be the guy who reflexively refuses because these compounds
45:39 don't fit neatly into your traditional pharma box and, you know,
45:42 because no one brought you free lunch to talk about them.
45:44 Use your clinical judgment.
45:45 Apply the evidence you have.
45:47 counsel honestly and monitor carefully.
45:49 And if you're a patient watching this, my advice hasn't changed.
45:52 Talk to your doctor.
45:53 If you're already using these compounds, just be honest about it.
45:56 And if you're thinking about using them, understand that as of today,
45:59 literally today, we are still in the category 2 era for most of them.
46:03 That will likely change, but it hasn't changed just yet.
46:06 I believe in bodily autonomy.
46:07 I believe adults have the right
46:09 to make informed decisions about their own health.
46:11 What I care about is that those decisions are informed
46:14 and that the information you're using to make them is accurate.
46:17 That's the whole mission of this channel and that's the whole reason
46:20 that I went on Diary of a CEO and it's the whole reason
46:22 that I'm about to stand up at AUA and try to explain
46:25 this to a room full of urologists
46:26 who understandably probably already think I'm crazy.
46:29 But if this video helped you understand
46:31 the situation better than you did 15 minutes ago, then I've done my job.
46:34 And if Ronic actually managed to edit this video down to 15 minutes,
46:37 then he's done his job.
46:39 All right, we made it.
46:40 15,000word Federal Register notices summarized into one YouTube video.
46:43 You're welcome.
46:44 If this video helped you, do me a favor.
46:46 Smash that like button.
46:48 Seriously, I know every YouTuber says it,
46:49 but the algorithm genuinely runs on it.
46:51 And this is a niche topic that most channels just are too scared to cover.
46:55 Your like is how this video finds the next person who needs it.
46:58 Subscribe if you haven't.
46:59 This channel is where I drop long form content on peptides, PEDs,
47:02 men's health, and all the stuff
47:04 that your doctor probably isn't comfortable talking about.
47:06 It's evidence-based, honest, and occasionally profane,
47:09 but it's always coming from a place of genuine care about getting it right.
47:12 So, drop a comment.
47:13 Tell me, were you using any of these peptides before September 2023?
47:17 And are you using them now?
47:18 Are you waiting for them to come back?
47:20 What's your situation?
47:21 I want real stories.
47:22 I want to know what the last two
47:23 and a half years have looked like from your side.
47:26 If you want to watch the Diary of a CEO interview,
47:28 the link is in the description.
47:29 Stephen and his team did an incredible job.
47:31 If you want to see me try to explain all
47:32 of this to a room full of urologists live and in person,
47:35 I'll be at the AUA annual meeting in Washington DC come this May.
47:38 Come find me, say hi, tell me you watch the channel.
47:41 I'll be the guy sipping an energy drink,
47:43 popping a zeni in a poor fitting blazer.
47:45 And to all of you, seriously,
47:46 from the bottom of my heart, thank you for watching.
47:49 Thank you for subscribing.
47:50 Thank you for the comments and the DMs and the stories.
47:53 This channel exists because you exist.
47:55 And I don't take that for granted.
47:56 To Stephen and the whole Diary of a CEO team, thank you again.
48:00 It was an experience of a lifetime and I owe you one.
48:02 And to my three urology buddies who actually watch these videos, hi guys.
48:06 I'll see you in May.
48:07 I'm Dr.
48:07 Alex.
48:08 Stay curious, stay skeptical, and as always, proceed accordingly.