Big Horse Adventure, Jack Antonoff, You Look Different | Fact Check for Jack Antonoff
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
0:01 He is an arm care expert, but he makes mistakes all the time.
0:05 Thank god Monica's here.
0:07 She's got to let him have the facts.
0:10 Well, he got a free He got a free dancer out of it.
0:13 He did.
0:14 He did.
0:14 That could be.
0:15 That just could be the music video.
0:17 I don't know what they would have offered me, what the budget would have been,
0:20 but it was He got it for cheaper than whatever that was.
0:23 He sure did.
0:24 $100 or something.
0:25 Well, we're both We both had whirlwind weekends.
0:28 We did.
0:29 Yes, you here in town.
0:30 Me in Nashville.
0:32 I had my brother and and his partner Emily in town and it was so fun.
0:39 Also, they loved the house which was really nice.
0:44 Yeah.
0:43 Last time we checked in, we made a joke about if they say like go to Malibu,
0:48 you just keep talking, you know, like they didn't say that.
0:51 You just keep it keep it going, keep it moving.
0:54 Um,
0:55 we did go to Malibu.
0:56 Who brought it up?
0:57 They did.
0:58 What' they say?
0:59 My brother was like, or I just said,
1:00 "What is there anything you guys really want to do?" And he said,
1:03 "We do want to go to Malibu." Oh[ __] God.
1:07 Okay.
1:08 Did you take Los Virgin or did you take Kanan Dune?
1:10 I took Kanan.
1:12 Kanan.
1:12 Okay.
1:12 I was sort of I mean I just follow I follow my phone, you know.
1:16 I follow my phone.
1:17 It's
1:18 good advice.
1:18 Jess and I get in fights a lot about which app to use.
1:24 Sure.
1:23 I won't say which one he uses.
1:26 Ways.
1:26 Not going to say it.
1:27 I'm not going to say what he uses.
1:29 I just really dislike the one he uses.
1:33 Okay.
1:33 I only hate one of the three main ones.
1:36 And I'll remain quiet on which one.
1:38 But we have Apple Maps, we have Google Maps, and we have ways, right?
1:41 Am I missing one?
1:43 Those are the three I know.
1:44 Rob probably uses a punk rock one that's like no one uses.
1:48 It's like really cool.
1:49 Yeah.
1:49 It's like X traffic.
1:52 Oh[ __] I want to do that one.
1:54 I'm not cool enough.
1:55 Which one do you use?
1:56 I use um Apple.
1:59 I use what's on my phone.
2:00 Okay.
2:00 And I love it.
2:01 And I use Google and I love it.
2:03 I love it.
2:04 Okay.
2:04 But we don't
2:05 Yeah, it's fine.
2:06 We're not debating.
2:08 Generally, when you and I drive together, I know where I'm going.
2:11 We drove together last week to a screening.
2:13 Uhhuh.
2:13 I knew how to get there.
2:14 Yeah.
2:14 You didn't put it in.
2:15 I didn't need that map.
2:17 That's the difference between us.
2:18 I You would have mapped even that place that you know
2:21 Oh, definitely.
2:22 I don't really know that place.
2:25 Like I do, but not enough.
2:26 I need to
2:27 Do you know how to get to Sunset Tower on your own?
2:29 Yes.
2:30 Okay.
2:30 Although I mean it's two turns.
2:34 Go down Western to Sunset in a pinch.
2:36 Okay.
2:36 This is what I like about maps though.
2:38 It it can tell if there's traffic.
2:41 So it will take you a a different way.
2:44 Well, it'll never take you the two turns version.
2:46 Yeah.
2:46 It doesn't take me two turns.
2:47 No, the 30 turns,
2:49 which if I'm going on my own, I can get there on my own.
2:52 If I didn't have my phone, I could get there.
2:54 But I'm going to go to turns
2:56 and when I follow the map,
2:58 I feel like I'm probably getting there faster because it's telling me
3:01 I think you are.
3:02 Yeah.
3:03 Um
3:03 I'm living in great stress.
3:04 If you read all these articles,
3:05 they're starting to mount cameras up everywhere
3:08 as a big statewide initiative for for speeding cameras.
3:12 Really?
3:13 They're going to be everywhere.
3:14 And I think they let you go 11 miles an hour over
3:17 the speed limit and then they just automatically send you a ticket.
3:20 No.
3:21 Yes.
3:23 Really?
3:22 Yeah.
3:22 And I got a list of the places they were putting it.
3:26 But it wasn't terribly exact.
3:29 Oh,
3:29 just like this corridor.
3:30 This is going to be horrible for you.
3:31 It is.
3:32 I'm going to have to learn all new routes.
3:33 They're really pushing you out of this city.
3:35 They want me gone.
3:36 They want me gone.
3:37 They do.
3:38 Wow.
3:39 Yeah.
3:39 Wait, that is
3:39 And then I can't really speed in in Mount Juliet cuz there's so many cops.
3:43 So that's okay.
3:44 I was actually going to ask you because in Georgia you cannot speed.
3:50 They they the cops are everywhere.
3:52 They're in speed cars.
3:54 There are speed traps.
3:55 They're in cars that are black that in black writing say like duth police.
4:00 So you can't tell that it's a police already pulled over.
4:06 Correct.
4:04 And so it's always been a thing.
4:07 And I only go five over there every time.
4:11 And that's the vibe in Mount Juliet on the highway in Nashville.
4:15 Fine.
4:16 People are flying.
4:17 That's kind of fine.
4:18 10 over.
4:19 Yeah.
4:19 For people who don't know the culture in LA,
4:22 it's everyone drives fast as they want pretty much.
4:25 Because you actually cannot go that fast because there's so much traffic.
4:30 Yes.
4:30 But there I got to say it's state to state to state.
4:33 California is the least Yeah.
4:36 Uh oppressive.
4:37 Yeah.
4:38 Yeah.
4:38 Yeah.
4:38 They're they're not running like um speed traps and stuff.
4:42 They're they're and they have a whole I when we made chips,
4:45 I got to meet a lot of the CHP people and they have
4:47 an actual agenda which is they just are patrolling high accident areas, right?
4:54 They're just trying to make everything safer.
4:55 Nice.
4:56 That's good.
4:57 All to say people drive pretty fast on the highways.
5:01 On the highway.
5:02 Yeah.
5:03 Yeah.
5:03 Everyone's going 80.
5:04 That's definitely over an 11 over.
5:06 That's true.
5:06 It's 15 over.
5:08 Again, only if there's no traffic, which is pretty rare.
5:11 Yeah, but when you get it, you know, that's why.
5:13 That's why.
5:14 Anyhow, I'm I'm just waiting.
5:15 I I guess they're going to have like
5:16 a month grace thing where you'll get tickets,
5:18 but you won't have to pay the fine and then it kicks in.
5:21 Then you'll have to pay a fine, but there's no points.
5:23 Oh, interesting.
5:24 Yeah, but I just I don't like the idea of there being a record
5:27 for your insurance.
5:30 But I don't really speed.
5:31 But I just don't like being watched.
5:33 Even though that's kind of weird for me because
5:36 you're not a libertarian by nature.
5:38 I'm really not.
5:39 I'm not I've gotten more into privacy as the older I've got for some reason.
5:44 Yeah.
5:44 Things happen when you're older.
5:46 That's just how it is.
5:49 Yeah.
5:48 Yeah.
5:48 Like my mother was just here and she's like her trust
5:51 level with the government is at a real alltime low.
5:54 Oh, right.
5:55 And I think that's just aging.
5:56 Yeah.
5:56 Yeah.
5:57 I mean, she's always was like a 60s flower power hat to Vietnam, but right
6:02 now it's just feels like every everything's not to be trusted.
6:05 That's true.
6:06 At any rate, so yeah, I have to drive pretty slow in Nashville.
6:10 Um, now it's looking like I'm going to have to drive slow here.
6:13 I'm going to have to move to Germany.
6:14 Autobon.
6:14 It's my last I thought I was going to retire in Nashville, but not not the case.
6:18 Oh, well that's a ding-ding for this episode
6:20 actually because you know we are going
6:23 to try to unseat um the number two most streamed podcast which is in Germany.
6:30 Caution does.
6:31 So maybe you should move there to just get like feet on the ground.
6:35 Well, we at least know you can have an enormously huge podcast over there.
6:39 That's true.
6:40 And I think you should host there.
6:42 I mean I think I'll stay.
6:43 Maybe we could start doing Zooms.
6:45 Um yeah, Germany doesn't feel like the place for you.
6:47 It's not for me, I don't think.
6:48 Although, I do want to visit there.
6:49 I've never been there.
6:50 I'm sure I'm sure I would enjoy it.
6:53 It answers the question, what if everything ran perfectly,
6:57 right?
6:56 Yeah.
6:57 Everything Everything runs exactly on time.
6:59 Everything's spotless clean.
7:01 They've got a real ethos there.
7:02 And I appreciate those things,
7:04 but then you do start feeling like where's the the Parisian vibe?
7:08 Where's the sexiness?
7:10 And they're okay.
7:11 This is the show Gish Hack.
7:15 Oh, it's like a game.
7:17 Well, they're playing they're definitely playing a game.
7:19 They're also one of them's younger, so they've been hitting it hard.
7:23 Either he started really young or they've just had an explosive ride.
7:27 Got 341 episodes.
7:30 Not that many.
7:31 No.
7:31 So, they're Yeah, they're getting a lot of downloads.
7:33 Oh my god.
7:34 Everyone Every single German listens to it.
7:36 Do you think maybe they'll have us diplo?
7:38 Right.
7:39 The guy on the left or right?
7:40 On the right.
7:42 Okay.
7:42 Yeah, they both have a thing.
7:44 Yeah, they're both attractive.
7:45 Yeah, the guy on the left looks like Diplo now.
7:48 Is that his name?
7:49 Um, that Diplo is his name.
7:51 And being fit is his game, right?
7:54 Yeah, he looks like him.
7:56 Yeah.
7:56 Yeah, it does.
7:57 I just looked up Diplo.
7:58 It does look
7:58 It might be Diplo.
7:59 What if it's Diplo?
8:00 That would explain why he's got such a huge Now he looks older here.
8:03 That's That's comforting.
8:04 That's Diplo.
8:06 Diplo.
8:06 Oh[ __] I thought, Dude, that's They're identical.
8:09 Wait, is maybe it is Diplo's podcast.
8:12 Hold on.
8:13 Gemish.
8:14 Oh, no.
8:14 It's like it literally comes up in German.
8:17 No.
8:18 Felix Loberect and Tommy Schmidt.
8:23 Congratulations, boys.
8:24 Yeah.
8:24 Wow, man.
8:25 Hey, have us on.
8:27 Yeah, let's get us on.
8:28 I can hit him with my six sentences of German and then we're out.
8:32 Yep.
8:33 Yep.
8:33 Yep.
8:33 Yep.
8:34 Yep.
8:34 Oh, it's a comedy audio show.
8:36 So,
8:37 lots of lots of shisha.
8:39 Yeah.
8:40 So, I went to I'm fresh off of Nashville.
8:44 Yes.
8:43 We started the Hulk Hogan documentary.
8:47 Yeah.
8:47 Which was incredible.
8:48 So incredible that we had a reservation for Bricktops at 7:30 and we
8:52 My favorite restaurant.
8:53 Favorite restaurant.
8:54 We considered not going.
8:57 Wow.
8:56 Went to Bricktops.
8:57 It was delicious.
8:58 They've taken the ribs off the menu.
9:00 Uh oh.
9:00 That's You have notes.
9:02 I love those ribs.
9:03 And then Saturday, more boating.
9:06 We went and watched them unload the coal for the electric plant.
9:13 Wow.
9:13 Watch them unload the barges.
9:15 God,
9:15 we got so distracted by that.
9:17 We almost missed our big horseback riding adventure.
9:21 We're out there just watching this thing.
9:23 Such different versions of I know.
9:25 We were We were riveted, Monica.
9:28 The way this pulley system moves the barge and then each scoop it
9:31 picks it up like I don't know how it picks up that cleanly.
9:35 Yeah.
9:35 We just watched him.
9:36 Anyways, then we had to haul ass back because we had horseback riding, right?
9:41 We had to drive 35 minutes out there for that.
9:43 That was a surprise for them.
9:44 I had asked Aaron earlier in the day how much he weighed
9:47 cuz they sent an email saying you you can't be over 240.
9:50 I was like, "Oh,[ __] I don't know what Aaron's weight's at right now." Yeah.
9:53 And then like then I wanted to tell him if they ask you, just say 239.
9:56 But they did weigh us.
9:58 Oh, okay.
9:58 Yeah.
9:59 That's not something to[ __] around with.
10:01 He was fine.
10:01 He was like 230.
10:02 Everything was going great.
10:03 But when we pulled up, he goes, "Oh my god,
10:06 horseback ride." I thought maybe we were taking
10:07 a helicopter ride cuz you asked how much I weighed.
10:10 I was like, "Well, that have been cooler."
10:11 He wished.
10:12 He wished.
10:13 So we went and you know, I thought it was going to be really fun
10:16 because I like being scared and I'm scared on horses.
10:20 Yeah, there's Yep.
10:21 They scare me.
10:22 I've had some bad experiences.
10:24 They're majestic animals, but they are they have minds of their own.
10:27 They're in charge.
10:28 They're in Actually, this is good for you.
10:30 You're like relinquishing this other thing is more powerful than me.
10:35 Yeah.
10:35 It's like immersion therapy of some kind.
10:38 But of course, we start doing this trail
10:40 ride through the state park and it's beautiful.
10:43 Um but little hints are coming out along right away.
10:46 It's like how olds are everyone's horses?
10:48 Oh, turns out mine's 25, right?
10:50 And they're like, it's about as old as they get.
10:52 Oh, and they said he probably should have been retired.
10:55 Like now they now they start saying like maybe they
10:57 he's past his prime and he should have already been retired.
11:00 And I'm like if they lived at 25 and mine's
11:02 25 that's like a that's the equivalent of being 100.
11:05 Okay.
11:05 He's a he's a grampy.
11:07 Yes.
11:07 He doesn't want to be out there.
11:09 Uh-oh.
11:09 Okay.
11:10 So he likes to follow the leader's horse right with his face on the horse's[ __]
11:15 Do you think he had a little bit of dementia?
11:17 Just a touch of it.
11:18 He had something going on.
11:20 He wanted to be nose to butt.
11:22 But if Aaron's horse got even close to mine, he would jump and kick.
11:27 And so mine was intermittently kicking and stopping
11:29 and freaking out and doing more kicking and then
11:31 Aaron's was like trying to avoid getting hit
11:34 by the kicks and almost hit Aaron in the face.
11:37 And so I just had this complete uneasiness for an hour
11:40 and a half like when's my horse going to really do something wild.
11:45 Yeah.
11:45 And then were you able to laugh or were you like I want this to be done now?
11:49 Oh boy.
11:50 Both maybe.
11:51 Both.
11:51 Yeah.
11:52 And then another like there it was a little muddy
11:55 and slippery so they the horses were slipping a bit
11:57 and then and then one of the the the gals
12:00 said uh oh yeah these horses been clumsy all day.
12:03 So I was like this too old should have been retired they've been clumsy all day.
12:06 I just kept thinking like we keep kept getting more
12:09 and more hints that it was going to go terribly arry.
12:12 And then we never rode fast where I could
12:14 have maybe gotten the giggles where I'd be really scared.
12:18 Okay.
12:17 So it was just this like
12:19 my least favorite part of it.
12:20 I'm just have anxiety that my horse is going to buck me off or something.
12:24 Now, did you psych?
12:25 I'm more interested in the psychology obviously.
12:28 Yeah.
12:28 So, were you like why did I do this?
12:32 And like it was for to be funny and like at what point am I not going
12:36 to do this anymore for bits or like what
12:40 was happening in your mind when you're just existential stuff.
12:43 Oh, you weren't okay.
12:44 Anyh who, it was fine.
12:45 We started forgetting we were on a horse trip and just started You know,
12:50 you have you have like a guide in front and a guide in back,
12:52 then the three of us.
12:55 Yeah.
12:54 And first we're doing horse talk and horse
12:57 questions and state park qu and then we're just
12:59 like we're just going to talk how we
13:00 are and then we're just doing our dumb stuff.
13:03 Okay, fine.
13:03 It was great.
13:04 It was great.
13:05 And then we came back and my neighbor
13:09 Nate had made this incredible smoked feast for us.
13:13 Pork butt smoked and two racks of ribs that were impossible.
13:17 which is good cuz you didn't have ribs the night before.
13:19 That's right.
13:20 Kind of a blessing really.
13:22 Yeah.
13:22 So then Nate came over and then the four of us had
13:24 dinner and uh we stayed up and then we watched some more.
13:27 Oh, I left one thing out.
13:28 We had gone for a walk on Saturday through the neighborhood.
13:31 U Tyrell was in the mood for some exercise.
13:34 So we took this long walk and there was the cutest little boy.
13:36 He had to have been between 10 and 12 and he had a little mini bike,
13:41 an oldfashioned miniike with a lawnmower engine and two wheels.
13:45 Yeah.
13:45 and he was ripping back and forth and we were like cheering
13:47 for oh you know the first thing we saw him do is
13:49 he pulled his before he even knew we were watching him he
13:52 pulled his motorcycle over got off and moved something out of the road
13:56 and we were like what was that and then when we got
13:57 up to the road we saw he had he saw a turtle
13:59 in the road and he pulled over and moved it out so
14:01 it'd be safe so we knew he was a really good boy
14:05 so we were like waving to him every time and every time he
14:07 drive by he quickly wave and put his hand back on the gas ped
14:10 on the throttle so on Sunday we got all of my motorcycles out and we
14:15 were ripping around the yard and Tyrell hadn't been on a motorcycle in 25 years.
14:18 So that was hilarious.
14:20 And and then I was like, "All right, let's go out in the neighborhood."
14:22 Motorized horse.
14:23 He was on a motorized horse.
14:25 And we went over to the little boy's house.
14:28 We went out into the neighborhood.
14:29 He already had his mini bike out.
14:30 He heard us in the yard
14:32 and his dad said, "He heard you and God is out." And I said, "Oh, good.
14:35 We invite we've come over to invite him on a ride."
14:38 So we went on a ride with this little boy.
14:40 It was so fun.
14:41 We just did a bunch of laps of the neighborhood.
14:43 That is so cute.
14:44 It was really, really sweet.
14:46 Oh my god.
14:46 He probably like
14:47 I have the cutest video I showed you.
14:49 It's him pulling up and waving.
14:51 Oh, he pro you just like made his whole, you know,
14:55 probably like day cuz you know kids they forget.
14:58 They reset quickly.
14:59 Yeah.
14:59 But wow, it's really sweet.
15:02 Really, really sweet.
15:03 Yeah.
15:03 For 36 hours.
15:04 I can't believe he moved a little turtle out.
15:07 Yeah, he was a nice boy.
15:08 He had a good heart, but he liked ripping around.
15:10 Boys like That's what Aaron said.
15:12 If we were in Melford, we would saw that kid try to catch air on it.
15:16 Exactly.
15:15 Yeah.
15:15 I wonder if I can jump this turtle.
15:19 Exactly.
15:21 Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert if you dare.
15:33 And then Sunday, massages for all three boys.
15:38 Nice.
15:38 Tyrell had never had a massage in his whole life.
15:40 I can't believe that.
15:41 So that's 51 years.
15:44 Yeah.
15:44 Did he enjoy it?
15:46 He loved it.
15:47 Okay, good.
15:47 Of course.
15:48 Yeah, they're the best.
15:51 Yes.
15:50 But I know I'm like I bet my dad Well, not I bet.
15:53 I know.
15:53 Like my dad's definitely never had a massage and my mom either.
15:58 Really?
16:00 Yeah.
15:59 Oh, there's so many want it.
16:02 Yeah.
16:02 Tyrell was saying he never wanted one cuz he has hair on his back.
16:05 That was the whole reason.
16:05 And Weekly was like, you know, almost all men have hair on their back.
16:08 I don't think it would be uniquely disgusting for the mass massage therapist.
16:13 Yesterday, I I had things I was supposed to do.
16:16 I had to work.
16:17 I had to edit.
16:18 I had to do
16:20 You're a busy woman.
16:21 I'm a busy lady.
16:22 Can't just be hosting the rest of your life.
16:25 Well, no.
16:25 My my my brother was gone.
16:27 Oh, he left.
16:28 No.
16:28 Yeah, they were gone.
16:29 So, I had like stuff I had a whole day planned
16:31 of getting being productive and I didn't do any of that.
16:36 Okay.
16:37 I started going through some pictures because I needed to print some pictures.
16:42 I've decided, you know,
16:43 currently my house doesn't have many pictures, personal pictures.
16:50 There's art.
16:50 I'm getting into art.
16:51 That's a we'll put a pin slash bookmark in that.
16:55 And I have a couple pictures in my bedroom and a couple in the guest bedroom,
17:02 the guest bedrooms, but none in the living room.
17:04 And I was like, you know what?
17:04 I need like if you walk in here,
17:06 you don't know who lives here and you don't know who they love, you know?
17:12 So I and I had I knew I had some frames, but I didn't know where they were.
17:17 They were in the garage, so I had to You'll be interested in this.
17:20 I cleaned out my garage.
17:21 Oh my god,
17:23 it was really hard.
17:23 I hated it.
17:25 Yeah.
17:25 Um but I got all my frames and I brought them up and I was like, "Okay,
17:27 now I need to print pictures." So, I went through I was going through so
17:34 many old pictures and I was bothering everyone.
17:36 I was like, you know, texting everyone, do you have this picture?
17:39 Do you have this picture?
17:40 Do you have any pictures of this?
17:41 You were calling on others also to help.
17:43 Yes, I was.
17:43 And so, I was doing that and then also, you know,
17:46 the photo book I made for Ryan for Secret Turkey last year, Artifact Uprising.
17:51 I'll give them a shout out.
17:53 Amazing photo books.
17:57 Oh, I hope I don't have another cough attack.
17:58 Oh god, don't leave.
18:01 You can call here.
18:02 Callie is the one that introduced me to them and she has great taste.
18:05 So,
18:06 you know, and you can make these photo books and they're so cool.
18:11 They're not your average photo books.
18:13 Uh, sorry, average photo book places, but I made um three photo books.
18:20 One was Golden Globes.
18:26 Okay.
18:25 Second was SAG Awards.
18:27 a SAG Actor Awards.
18:29 Third was my apartment.
18:31 This one was hardest cuz I was like I
18:33 I think I only want pictures in the apartment.
18:37 I need to boil it down to 50 pictures.
18:41 That's the max.
18:41 I was trying to balance like pictures
18:43 of the actual apartment and then some pictures of people.
18:46 You know, it's a lot to think about.
18:48 Your different meals you posted.
18:50 We did not take enough pictures in that apartment.
18:52 I was actually kind of pissed.
18:55 Yeah.
18:55 But again, I'm asking people I was I I not to not
19:01 to throw her under the bus cuz obviously we love her the most here,
19:05 but I had to ask Kristen for a picture.
19:08 Okay.
19:08 And she's just not Sometimes she's not the best at responding.
19:11 So I got a little nervous cuz I really
19:13 wanted to get these books in, you know, in.
19:15 You wanted to get it off your plate.
19:17 I did.
19:18 Yeah.
19:18 And I I asked her, I said, "Do you have the picture of me,
19:22 you, Dax, and Anna from the Vanity Fair party?"
19:27 I knew she had it.
19:28 And then she wasn't responding.
19:30 And so, you know what?
19:30 I I checked back in and I felt bad.
19:33 She's a busy lady.
19:34 She's shooting a show right now.
19:36 Yeah.
19:37 I did my due diligence.
19:38 I first texted Anna.
19:39 Yeah.
19:40 Yeah.
19:40 Yeah.
19:40 I said, "Do you have this picture?" She didn't.
19:43 Um, but she was on set with Kristen, so she went to get Kristen's phone.
19:48 This was going to solve my problems, you know.
19:49 Yeah.
19:50 But Kristen had already
19:51 For the listener, it sounds like you're crying, but you're not crying.
19:54 I'm not crying.
19:54 I have I'm having a cough.
19:56 She's having a call.
19:56 One of her cough attacks that are springing up more frequently.
19:59 I know.
20:00 It's
20:02 really I don't know.
20:03 I haven't And now I guess when I'm talking they're habit.
20:07 Do you think they're psych?
20:08 Now I'm getting nervous.
20:08 They're like psychosmatic or something.
20:11 Wasn't everything at least half?
20:12 I mean, I don't I'm unwilling to accept this as psychos
20:17 something like I cuz you know I canceled my doctor's appointment.
20:21 Oh, okay.
20:21 This I didn't.
20:23 Oh, so I had a doctor's appointment set because I've been getting sick a lot.
20:26 I've been getting a lot of bugs
20:28 and you know this is why single people don't they die, you know.
20:32 Yeah.
20:33 They don't live and they die because they don't go to the doctor.
20:36 Luckily, I have Jess who said, "I I want you to go to the doctor." Yeah.
20:41 Yeah.
20:41 this is too many bugs and they're lasting for too long.
20:45 And I was like, "Okay, uh, sure, maybe next time." You know,
20:49 and then, but this last bug was lasting for so long.
20:52 I did make an appointment, had it scheduled, but then I got better.
20:58 That's always the case.
20:59 The second you make the appointment or you show up at the doctor,
21:02 you start feeling great.
21:03 And it was an 8:00 a.m.
21:04 Oh, yeah.
21:05 And I was like,
21:06 I'm not going.
21:07 So, I canled.
21:08 Okay, great.
21:09 Um, I did break the news to Jess.
21:11 yesterday that I didn't go and he was mad.
21:15 Okay.
21:14 Um and now I'm mad, I guess, because I'm I still have I I thought I was better
21:18 and I have a little bit of a cough attack, but that's okay.
21:21 I'm going to edit all out so no
21:22 one's going to even know what we're talking about.
21:24 Yeah.
21:24 They'll be like, "What are they talking about?" Anyway, so I got the picture.
21:28 She I pestered her.
21:29 I said, "Sorry to be a pest." But you know,
21:31 sometimes you have to be a pest in life to get what you want.
21:35 Yeah.
21:34 Sorry to be a pest.
21:35 I just really want to get this book in today.
21:38 And so she sent it to me and great, that one's sent in.
21:45 Perfect.
21:44 The Sagord one sent in.
21:47 I had asked Anna, you know, I was really pestering Anna a lot for those, do
21:50 you have any pictures of Kristen while she's on stage?
21:54 Yeah.
21:55 Um,
21:54 you guys, you I got to finish this book today.
21:56 I did.
21:57 She was like, "What's going on?" Yeah.
21:59 What's the rush?
22:00 Yeah.
22:01 And then the apartment, that was real.
22:02 I I reached out to a lot of people.
22:04 Anthony, Alison, Rachel, um, Jess, Anna.
22:08 But it was fun for me cuz I was going
22:10 back through all my pictures and looking and just like,
22:14 man, have we changed.
22:17 Yeah.
22:17 Because, you know what's really fun about the apartment?
22:19 I moved in March of 2018.
22:23 We started this show February of 2018.
22:25 Oh, wow.
22:26 So, it really bookmarks that time.
22:29 Yeah.
22:29 And it's really sweet to like see over the course
22:33 of the past eight years how much has changed just us personally growing,
22:39 but also just lookwise and also what we've all been through.
22:42 Me the most, right?
22:44 You look so different.
22:46 Yeah.
22:45 But not You don't look older.
22:48 You just look different because you've changed your body so much.
22:52 I know.
22:52 Do you think people think I had like reconstructive surgery?
22:55 Well, you haven't.
22:56 I can I can confirm.
22:58 We haven't done that.
22:58 But yeah, it's changed so much.
23:00 It really I feel like if you did a before and after,
23:04 a random picture from Parenthood and now.
23:08 Yeah.
23:08 You could make some case that I've had like some kind of a face transfer.
23:11 Rob, will you put two pictures up?
23:13 One of Dax during Parenthood and one of him at the Golden Globes
23:17 or this morning.
23:18 Did you taking photos of me this morning?
23:20 I think actually I really did.
23:23 It was interesting because, you know, I'm always like,
23:25 why are you you don't need to like keep working out and whatever,
23:29 but I've been noticing some other people aging.
23:34 Uh-huh.
23:34 You mean you shouldn't work out or I shouldn't?
23:37 You.
23:37 Oh, right.
23:37 Right.
23:37 Okay.
23:39 You're so big, you know.
23:40 um mus muscular and I get worried that it's
23:44 it's causing you to have dysmorphia and you know
23:47 but when I was going back in time
23:49 and looking at these pictures and also simultaneously I'm
23:52 watching some other people in the sphere age I
23:56 was looking at other pictures of people as I'm as I'm it's all right there
24:00 yeah I was like oh wow he does look healthy like
24:06 and that's good so he probably should still continue on this path.
24:11 So, I have to give it to you.
24:13 Oh, wow.
24:13 Thank you.
24:13 And I'll meet you halfway,
24:15 which is I think the area where it's going to be problematic.
24:18 And this was in the Hulk Dock.
24:20 Oh, okay.
24:22 For the listener, we have a very beautiful
24:24 picture of Dax and Kristen at the Golden Globes.
24:26 And then Dax on Parenthood.
24:28 Okay.
24:29 You do look younger, but you don't look old at all here.
24:35 I look completely different.
24:36 I look super masculine on the left and not on the right.
24:40 You look very
24:41 My beard came in and since then like I couldn't grow a full beard back then.
24:45 You look very boyish on on the right.
24:51 Yes.
24:50 Can you Sorry, Rob, cuz I know you're like doing some cool like stuff.
24:54 I wonder if you can get a picture of Dax Kristen at the Chips premiere.
25:00 Yep.
25:00 Oh, wow.
25:00 She's looking so good.
25:02 Just perfect.
25:03 She's doing amazing.
25:04 Yeah.
25:05 Started hot and ended hot.
25:08 From A to Z.
25:09 And I started at a six and went to a seven.
25:11 No, no, no, no, no.
25:13 Yeah.
25:14 I mean, a lot of it is just I was so I was clean shaving a lot.
25:17 Yeah, she looks the same.
25:20 Um, yeah, you look Yeah, you're right.
25:24 You facial hair.
25:26 I look like I could sell you a car in this photo from the chips from here.
25:30 I don't think so.
25:31 Like, what are you in the Are you have a large family, sir?
25:34 Do you how many passengers do you carry normal?
25:37 You guys watch the fact check.
25:38 The fact check has visuals now.
25:40 There's so many visuals
25:42 and like this episode's pretty visual heavy.
25:45 Yeah.
25:44 So, I would recommend coming and watching.
25:47 And also, look how fast Rob worked his magic.
25:50 Yeah, he is good on a computer.
25:52 It doesn't get better.
25:53 Okay, this is actually great because well, you can't see your eyes.
25:57 You're wearing sunglasses in the one on the left.
26:00 That Want me to take them off?
26:02 Pick up this is a pain in my eyes,
26:04 but make them look my current eyes, not eyes from chips.
26:07 If I had Photoshop, I could.
26:08 Um, I got another one.
26:10 No, it's okay.
26:11 I mean, there must be a picture of you without your sunglasses at the Golden.
26:14 You're wearing sunglasses there.
26:16 Sometimes I do.
26:17 Yeah.
26:17 Oh, wow.
26:18 Yeah, why not?
26:19 Yeah, sure.
26:20 Um,
26:21 Jack Nicholson always did.
26:22 Yeah, I mean, they look nice.
26:24 I don't think he ever took his off outside of a movie.
26:27 He's at the Lakers game indoors.
26:28 He's got an interview.
26:30 He's got his shades on at all the award shows.
26:33 Yeah, it's kind of cool.
26:34 Oh, there we go.
26:36 Very nice.
26:37 Okay, this is a picture without his sunglasses on.
26:42 I just look more like my dad now.
26:43 Wait, what's happening?
26:44 Why is Chris?
26:45 This is a Golden Years ago.
26:47 This is from this year.
26:49 Okay.
26:49 Is it?
26:50 Yeah.
26:50 So, this is from a couple months ago.
26:54 Okay.
26:53 And the one on the right is from Chips.
26:55 So, again, she looks the same.
26:58 actually wearing complimentary outfits.
27:00 I really like what's going on here.
27:02 Dashes of green and and black and purple.
27:04 Pretty purple.
27:05 Okay.
27:06 And it's the facial hair, but also Yeah,
27:10 you look it does look like your face has changed shape,
27:14 but it's because of the neck
27:17 of Well, yeah.
27:18 The muscles.
27:20 Yeah.
27:20 Yeah.
27:20 Yeah.
27:20 It's weird.
27:21 It's really interesting.
27:22 Well, but I was going to say watching the Hulk doc,
27:25 the thing that I think could be in my future that's
27:28 problematic is both the Hulk Hogan doc and the Ronnie Coleman dock.
27:33 Both these guys still lifting weights
27:36 and they can't walk.
27:38 No, you cannot.
27:39 But they can barely walk, right?
27:40 They have a cane.
27:41 He can't get up off the machines, but he's still lifting a ton of weight.
27:45 And I'm like, what's going on there?
27:46 Where it's like, you're still very strong, but you can't walk
27:50 and you just keep lifting weights because
27:52 the idea of getting smaller seems terrible.
27:55 And that's a trap I could definitely.
27:58 I'm glad you saw that as a cautionary tale.
28:01 Um, I do still walk pretty good.
28:02 Just out of curiosity now, I want to Can you Can you show me
28:07 at the Chips premiere and me at the Golden Globes?
28:10 Okay.
28:11 Yeah.
28:11 So on the left, we don't own that photo on the left.
28:16 What?
28:15 We don't own that photo on the left.
28:17 Does own it?
28:18 The watermark all over it.
28:19 We Oh, we don't own that picture on the left, but we own the one on the right.
28:23 We don't own either, but
28:27 um Yeah.
28:27 Do you think I look different?
28:29 Everyone weigh?
28:30 We're pretty similar.
28:32 What do you think?
28:33 I actually I look I mean I look Yeah, I guess I look younger on the left.
28:38 You also look like you're going to a nightclub.
28:41 I do a little naughty on the left.
28:44 But I'm wear I'm I'm smiling with my teeth.
28:46 Uhhuh.
28:47 Which is nice.
28:49 Um
28:49 your eyes are very dark.
28:51 Yeah, but my eyes are pretty dark on the right.
28:54 Same thick hair.
28:55 I actually don't think I look that different.
28:57 No.
28:58 No.
28:58 Huh.
28:59 But I I just think you just look like 9 years.
29:00 Look younger.
29:01 Yeah.
29:02 Younger.
29:03 But Huh.
29:04 Interesting.
29:05 I think I I I actually think I look better on the right.
29:11 Okay, no one here wants to comment on that.
29:13 That's okay.
29:13 You don't have to.
29:14 You don't have to.
29:15 But I do think
29:18 you like how you're trending.
29:21 You look great in both.
29:22 I don't know that we can really say which is better.
29:26 Just a little different with some age.
29:30 Yeah.
29:31 Have my features changed?
29:32 No.
29:32 I mean, if you were smiling with your teeth in the right,
29:35 I think we would it would be a better comp.
29:38 Right.
29:38 Fair.
29:38 But you've you've said goodbye to that, right?
29:40 We don't smile with teeth anymore.
29:42 There are pictures with my teeth.
29:44 I I do both.
29:45 But But are people advised not to?
29:47 I mean, I don't really know the rules.
29:49 Not necessarily.
29:50 It just like
29:51 I never figured them out.
29:53 It is supposed I think you're just like it's like
29:56 more modely.
29:57 Yeah.
29:58 Or chic or whatever.
29:59 It's stupid.
30:00 People should smile whenever I'm home.
30:02 with my friends at home and we're taking group pictures,
30:05 they always make fun of me.
30:07 They always say, "Monica, smile with your teeth."
30:09 Oh, really?
30:10 Even in group photos?
30:12 Yes.
30:12 So, it's not just a red carpet thing.
30:14 Yeah.
30:14 Now, I'm just like used to doing it.
30:16 So, I I
30:17 That's your natural now.
30:18 It's become a little more common when there's
30:20 a camera to not smile with my teeth.
30:23 But these people who've known me my whole life are like, "Absolutely not.
30:26 You're smiling with your teeth." Yeah.
30:28 And I like that.
30:29 They're keeping me
30:31 grounded.
30:31 Keeping me grounded.
30:31 That's right.
30:32 All right.
30:32 Should we do a little fackies?
30:35 Yes.
30:35 Okay.
30:35 Well, this is for Jack.
30:37 Oh, for the people who haven't guessed or known or watched this episode,
30:44 this is the one where Dax dances.
30:46 Oh, yes.
30:47 Yes.
30:47 Yes.
30:47 Yes.
30:48 Hot off the presses.
30:51 Yeah.
30:50 Yeah.
30:51 Which may or may not be in the episode.
30:52 We don't know.
30:53 We still don't know.
30:54 We don't know.
30:54 We'll see.
30:55 Um, but just reminding everyone uh Jack loved it.
31:00 He's requested that I do it at the end of every episode.
31:03 So much so that he texted you as like really doubling down.
31:06 Please do that at the end.
31:07 Yeah.
31:08 And I don't know if it's all just a big
31:09 trap to embarrass me or but I kind of trust him.
31:12 He seems like a very trustworthy guy.
31:14 He had a beautiful knowledge of himself.
31:18 Yeah.
31:17 I text him I thought
31:19 you know obviously we didn't get into this in the episode but
31:24 Jack has a quite a list of ex-lovers.
31:29 Yes.
31:29 Yes.
31:30 And um I get it.
31:33 Sure.
31:33 Yeah.
31:33 Yeah.
31:34 I get why.
31:35 Yeah.
31:35 Yeah.
31:35 He definitely makes you feel very seen.
31:40 Mhm.
31:39 He connects.
31:40 He makes eye contact.
31:41 He's asking questions.
31:43 Um
31:44 it's that easy, guys.
31:47 Literally.
31:48 It's literally that easy.
31:49 Yeah.
31:49 Yeah.
31:50 Yep.
31:51 Yeah.
31:51 But apparently it's not easy.
31:53 It's not easy.
31:53 It's scary.
31:54 It's scary.
31:55 The boys are really scared when they're talking to a girl they like.
31:57 I know.
31:58 But you guys, you can do it.
31:59 You can do it.
32:00 You just ask.
32:01 There's no more lions to fight.
32:02 There's no more tribes to fight off.
32:04 Yeah.
32:04 You're okay.
32:05 The last thing you got to do that's uh risk
32:08 risk heavy.
32:08 And you you just look people in the eye.
32:12 You ask questions.
32:13 You do you do need to be a little vulnerable.
32:17 Um but he wasn't too vulnerable either.
32:20 It wasn't like we've had more.
32:24 Yes.
32:23 So, but I I really I understood it.
32:25 He connected.
32:26 It was a duck duck goose.
32:27 I was in my bedroom and I could over hear Tyrell getting a massage.
32:32 Uhhuh.
32:31 And this was an hour into the massage and as I like walked through my bedroom,
32:35 I could hear him in there asking her a million questions.
32:39 He was still talking to her.
32:40 Summer, she's incredible.
32:42 And I literally thought like, oh yeah, Tyrell, whose women have always liked.
32:48 Yeah.
32:47 Um is very engaged and just asking questions and curious.
32:51 Just curious.
32:52 Yeah.
32:52 Yeah.
32:53 And she's married and all, but I was just like, "Oh, right.
32:55 That's what that's how people like each other is they engage.
32:59 Do you think the phrase curiosity killed the cat is
33:02 the reason like all of all of these men are confused?
33:06 No, I just think for some reason it's counterintuitive,
33:10 but I think for some reason men don't know what to ask.
33:14 Like they think it's more complicated than it is.
33:16 Yeah.
33:17 Or they I think maybe they feel like
33:18 they should have the answers so they don't need
33:21 it's time to like you show them
33:23 what kind of a catch they are.
33:24 Right.
33:25 Right.
33:25 You don't need to do that.
33:26 No.
33:27 And oh, for people who are definitely going to ask,
33:31 I want to cut this off at the pass.
33:34 Uh, last week, I think it was when I said I engaged with something um that a lot
33:42 of people like but I didn't like or maybe
33:44 I even said I read was reading something.
33:47 Yeah.
33:46 It is not Lena's book.
33:49 Oh, okay.
33:49 It's not Lena's book.
33:50 So, I I know that's I think people are going to assume that.
33:54 Okay, I am reading it and that is not what I was talking about.
33:58 Okay, great.
33:58 All right.
33:59 Topo Chico shortage.
34:01 Yeah, let's talk about it.
34:03 Let's talk.
34:04 Okay.
34:04 Shortage is going to last through the summer of 2026.
34:07 That's this summer.
34:10 Yeah.
34:09 Why is it happening?
34:10 CocaCola conducted maintenance on the bottling factory
34:14 and found geology issues in the source wells.
34:18 Oh boy.
34:20 All right.
34:21 That can't be great if you've bought a company
34:23 and it's all dependent on one source well,
34:26 but you didn't figure out if that well's this geology issue.
34:30 This is like ding ding ding to your peptide.
34:35 Your peptide was rancid.
34:37 Your your peptide wasn't rancid that we know of, but your
34:41 something in the vial was the bottling no good.
34:43 Yeah.
34:45 This is weird.
34:45 This happened to you twice.
34:46 Remember when you had that like rancid water flavored water and you got
34:51 that the ranch?
34:53 Yeah.
34:53 And you got a um crazy honest
34:59 and puking.
35:00 Yeah.
35:00 Food poisoning.
35:01 Food poisoning.
35:02 Thank you.
35:02 Yeah.
35:02 Yeah.
35:03 Yeah.
35:03 You got crazy food poisoning.
35:05 But everyone else was fine.
35:09 Oh,
35:08 like other people had drank those and it no one else had a problem.
35:12 I thought it was in your trailer and it was like
35:15 it was just this brand with this flavor.
35:18 Anytime I had it, it made me sick.
35:20 That was a one-off batch.
35:22 Oh, I thought it was
35:22 Well, I think the three times I I've had it, I've gotten sick.
35:26 Oh my god.
35:26 Okay.
35:27 I think there's just something specific I'm allergic to in there.
35:30 Oh, so then then we then it isn't food poisoning.
35:32 It's you have an allergy, I guess.
35:34 I didn't hear anyone else complaining about it.
35:38 Interesting.
35:37 And there's big gaps in times when I've tried the product.
35:40 Really?
35:40 You sure you tried it again?
35:42 Why would you do that?
35:44 For fun.
35:45 I think it was like I think it was like like
35:47 one of the normal water companies made flavored water for a minute,
35:51 right?
35:51 Yeah.
35:51 And it was those.
35:54 Yeah.
35:53 And one of the flavors black cherry or something,
35:56 you know.
35:57 Bu Yeah, cuz it wasn't just Hanis.
36:01 You you were fully growing up food poisoned.
36:04 Yeah.
36:07 Yeah.
36:06 Not good.
36:07 Okay.
36:07 Um, we are young.
36:09 Release date.
36:10 September 20th, 2011.
36:12 That was a fact.
36:15 Okay.
36:14 What is the romcom movie that mentions the Hines slogan?
36:18 It's probably what Dax said.
36:19 Arthur 2 on the rocks.
36:21 The sequel to the 1981 hit starring Dudley Moore and Liza Minnelli.
36:25 The film references the famous marketing slo slogan Hines
36:29 57 number two in the world and that ain't bad.
36:32 Other options, Agent Cody Banks 2.
36:36 Destination London also lightly mentions Hines, but it isn't a romcom.
36:42 Other famous ones are when Harry Met Sally, but that's just product placement.
36:46 Okay, that's standard.
36:47 What year has Jack been at Grammys with multiple album of the year awards?
36:52 He's been in this position three times.
36:55 Wow, that's awesome.
36:57 Wow.
36:57 He was the first person to ever be nominated in all three major categories,
37:01 album, record, and song of the year.
37:03 Whoa.
37:03 for two different artists in the same night in 2026.
37:08 The only other people who've been nominated for multiple
37:10 albums and album of the year is Serbian Gana.
37:14 This feels a little bit like the Spotify list.
37:17 Okay.
37:17 Um Fel.
37:20 Sure.
37:19 And Tom Elmhurst.
37:21 Huh.
37:22 I don't know Tom Elmhurst.
37:23 Me either years.
37:25 He had multiple nominations in album of the year category 2020.
37:29 He did not win.
37:30 Um, this one is a technicality because he was not technically nominated,
37:34 but he did produce the sec second album on the list.
37:37 Norma[ __] Rockwell, Alana Del Rey, and then Arizona Baby Kevin Abstract.
37:44 2024, he won with Midnight's Midnight's Taylor Swift.
37:48 And did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Boulevard?
37:51 Lana Del Rey.
37:53 2025, he did not win.
37:54 Tortured Poets Department.
37:55 Taylor Swift short and sweet Sabrina Carpenter.
37:57 O 202 I know, but they didn't win.
38:03 Oh, okay.
38:02 2026.
38:03 He did not win.
38:03 Man's Best Friend, Sabrina Carpenter, GNX, Kendrick Lamar.
38:06 Man, he has some amazing albums under his belt.
38:09 This is so cool.
38:11 No, he's kind of the producer of the last decade.
38:14 Yeah, I know.
38:14 I know.
38:15 I know.
38:16 It's so cool.
38:17 Okay.
38:18 The president of Ukraine.
38:20 This was upsetting.
38:21 Yeah.
38:21 Um, Vladimir.
38:24 So, it is.
38:24 So, it's not Vladimir.
38:26 Vladimir.
38:26 Very close.
38:27 Zilinski.
38:28 Yeah, we knew that.
38:29 We just Honest mistake.
38:31 Honest mistake.
38:32 Yeah, honest mistake.
38:34 Ding, ding, ding.
38:35 Um, okay.
38:36 Those are facts for Jack.
38:37 I loved him.
38:38 He was really great.
38:40 He's great.
38:41 Um, I really enjoyed him, too.
38:43 He's a real artist.
38:46 Yes.
38:48 Yeah, he is a That's exactly right.
38:49 He's a real artist.
38:50 He's a real artist.
38:51 And how should I say I probably shouldn't say it, but I'm think I'm gonna Okay.
38:56 I think being a real artist truly madly deeply TLC is a bit of a burden.
39:04 Oh, of course.
39:06 Yeah.
39:06 All of these phenomenal writers wrestle with depression and anxiety.
39:11 Yeah.
39:11 I think it goes hand in hand.
39:13 It's a lot with a willingness to sit in a room
39:15 with uncomfortable emotions and convert them into something.
39:19 And like it's a need that must be met.
39:22 The need to create.
39:26 Yeah.
39:24 It has to be met.
39:26 in in a way that's different from me or I won't say you.
39:31 Yeah, you can say me.
39:32 Me or you, right?
39:33 Who who are creative and have
39:35 the only place I've ever felt it is just writing where it's
39:38 like there have been things I have to sit down and write.
39:40 But other than that, I love it.
39:45 I love writing and have written and I love creating things,
39:51 but I don't feel like I'll die if I don't.
39:54 Right.
39:54 Yeah.
39:55 I have too much fun with other people.
39:57 Yeah, I can do other I know I can do other things in this life
40:01 and not cease to exist, you know.
40:04 But but he is one of those in the category
40:07 like he just has to he has to do this.
40:09 This is a ding ding ding.
40:10 I happened to read this this morning that Michael Jackson one
40:13 time called the guy was producing his album at like 3:00 a.m.
40:17 and said, "Wake everyone up.
40:19 Get them to the studio right now." Yeah.
40:22 And when he was there, he explained to the musicians the reason they had
40:26 to come tonight is that God sends songs down.
40:32 Yeah.
40:31 And if he doesn't catch it, Prince will.
40:35 See, it was literally like either he's going to catch
40:36 this song right now or Prince is going to.
40:39 So, he has to wake up and do it now before Prince catches it.
40:44 Yeah.
40:44 It's really And I think he believed that.
40:46 Yeah.
40:46 Yeah.
40:46 And I don't Who's to say it's not true?
40:49 Every time we talk to one of these super prolific,
40:52 talented songwriters, they're all describing it the same way.
40:54 So, yeah.
40:55 Who am I to say it's the other way?
40:58 Yeah.
40:58 Wow.
40:59 And I'm grateful these people who I do think in general
41:03 suffer a little more and they give us these incredible Me too.
41:06 Me too.
41:06 I have a lot of compassion
41:07 for these artists cuz they're their brains are working
41:11 in a much different way and that has bad thing there are bad things to that.
41:17 Yeah.
41:17 But then we get to like benefit from their genius
41:21 and we also have so many opinions about all of them, right?
41:24 It's like and how they should behave.
41:26 Yeah.
41:27 Yeah.
41:26 Which is maybe not fair.
41:29 All right.
41:29 Well, that is it.
41:30 All right.
41:30 Love you.
41:31 Love you.