Hot Ones Season 29 Marathon

0:00 I feel like there's water coming out of holes in my face.

0:03 Yeah, that's what happens.

0:04 We're We're squeezed like a sponge.

0:06 Sure,

0:06 a little bit.

0:07 But all that said, there's no place I'd rather be.

0:13 Hey, what's going on everybody for First We Feast.

0:15 I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.

0:17 It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.

0:19 And today we're joined by Jason Seagull.

0:21 Hey man.

0:22 He's an actor, writer, and producer you know from films like I Love You Man,

0:24 Forgetting Sarah Marshall, The Muppets, and many more.

0:26 He had a nearly decade long run on the mega hit sitcom How I Met Your Mother.

0:29 And you can also catch him on the acclaimed series Shrinking,

0:32 which returns for its much anticipated third

0:34 season January 28th on Apple TV Plus.

0:36 Jason Seagull, welcome to the show.

0:38 Thanks, Sean.

0:38 I'm really excited to be here.

0:39 What's going through your head as you prepare to take on the gauntlet?

0:42 Are you someone who enjoys spicy food?

0:45 Yeah, I am, but I feel like that's not a fair question.

0:47 Like, this is not designed to be eaten casually, right?

0:50 It's designed to[ __] me up.

0:52 Uh, but I am I'm ready for it.

0:54 I'm excited.

0:54 I feel nervous in my body but calm in my uh heart and mind.

1:21 We just jump right in.

1:22 We start with the wing.

1:24 I see.

1:25 That's how it goes.

1:36 Great.

1:40 I've seen the show when people go, "Oh, great.

1:43 No problem.

1:44 I'm no fool." Have you absorbed any profound words

1:49 of wisdom playing a therapist on television?

1:51 like is there a therapeutic tool that you've discovered by reading

1:54 a script that's actually been helpful in your day-to-day life?

1:58 Yeah, I think that the approach that um the therapists that shrinking is

2:02 based on have is that people actually want to be told what to do.

2:05 And so unlike some other therapies, they're like,

2:09 "Listen, we will get to the bottom of this.

2:11 Like, we'll get to the why over months and months,

2:14 but people want to know what to do on Tuesday." You know what I mean?

2:17 Like when they have to have the conversation.

2:19 And these therapists will just tell you what to say.

2:22 So, it's a little bit controversial, but I think it's actually wish fulfillment.

2:25 I think that's what you want.

2:26 Like, what do I say to my boss on Tuesday?

2:34 Great.

2:36 I'm trying to uh take legit bites.

2:40 The people will love that.

2:41 Yeah, I think so.

2:42 Forever a showman, Jason.

2:45 Well, that one's nice.

2:49 That's really nice.

2:51 So, when Paul Rudd was on the show, he talked about how the movies that he

2:54 finds funniest are often categorized as dramas,

2:57 while some of the most dramatic moments in film have happened in comedies.

3:02 Yeah.

3:02 Does that at all ring true to you?

3:03 And what immediately comes to mind when

3:05 you think about the phrase dramatic comedy?

3:07 I've always felt like that was the most honest version of any of these subjects.

3:12 Heavy on heavy isn't really how it goes in real life.

3:14 And also, I think as a viewer, you kind of get turned off like, okay, I get it.

3:17 Like I I I understand cancer is hard, you know,

3:20 but like what is it like to get through it?

3:22 Like Sarah Marshall, that guy's having a really hard time, you know,

3:26 he's like crying and everything and just really devastated about,

3:31 you know, a breakup.

3:33 Uh I think it's fun to see somebody feeling things a little too much on screen.

3:38 Um and it it like lowers the defenses so

3:41 then you can sucker punch with some real dramatic stuff.

3:49 So, up next is a white hot mustard sauce.

3:51 You said it, dog.

3:58 I mean, I know it's coming.

4:02 Mhm.

4:02 I'm a fool.

4:04 But I I feel like we're I feel like we're

4:06 in kind of a we're living in a safe space right now.

4:10 Yeah.

4:11 You know, uh, the difference between sauce one, sauce two,

4:14 sauce three, we're on the margins, you know, incremental.

4:17 That's right.

4:17 It it will not remain that way.

4:19 I'm a chicken wing talk show host

4:21 of the highest dignity and I try to be transparent.

4:23 Yeah.

4:23 Yeah.

4:23 I know.

4:24 I appreciate that.

4:25 I know everyone.

4:26 It does.

4:27 I try.

4:29 Yeah.

4:29 What was it like working as an usher

4:31 at the Santa Monica Playhouse as an 11-year-old?

4:33 Like, did that experience do anything to shape

4:35 your aspirations of one day becoming an actor?

4:38 I was a weird kid.

4:40 And so they sent me to the Santa Monica Playhouse,

4:43 which at that age, it's not really for kids who like love acting.

4:48 It's for kids who don't have friends, you know?

4:50 So, you're in this room of like equally awkward people.

4:54 But what I found there was that when I was acting,

4:58 I felt very comfortable and I felt

5:00 like I understood the assignment in that space.

5:02 I was like, "Oh, I know how to do

5:04 this." That was my my first kind of flirting with um

5:10 this might be something that I am like uniquely good

5:13 at and I didn't have other things like that at the time.

5:21 So far so great.

5:28 Some smokiness action on this one.

5:31 Yeah.

5:31 Little sweetness from the peach.

5:32 It's terrific.

5:33 kind of a little afterburn, you know, to let you know where you are.

5:36 Yeah, that's right.

5:37 That says, "Hey, we're getting there." A sign of what's to come.

5:42 Yeah.

5:42 Yeah.

5:42 Great.

5:43 Was there any advice that Jud Appatile gave you

5:45 as a teenager that maybe at the time you didn't really understand,

5:48 but you look back now and think of as profound?

5:52 Two moments I remember as being kind of like anchor moments.

5:56 One was I had to play a song on Freaks and Geeks on the guitar.

6:00 I had to write it and sing it.

6:02 The script came in on like a Monday and I had to do it on a Friday.

6:07 I got the script and I said, "Jud,

6:08 I don't know how to play guitar." And without missing a beat,

6:11 he said, "You'll figure it out.

6:13 You're living your dream.

6:14 You figure it out." And ever since then, I really do think you'll figure it out.

6:19 The other thing he said, which is the best advice I ever got,

6:21 and I've talked about it before, but he took me aside and he said, "Uh, Jace,

6:26 if you can improv the way you're improving here, you can write.

6:29 You just need to learn how to do it.

6:31 You're a really weird dude and the only way the only way

6:34 you're going to make it is if you write your own material.

6:37 I think I'm honestly I'm still around because of that.

6:40 All right.

6:40 Would you believe me if I told you we are at the halfway mark?

6:44 Totally.

6:45 Story checks out.

6:46 I can tell.

6:47 So this next one is called uh tropical amaro here in the five spot.

7:00 A fool who was too eager would start chowing

7:03 them down and then be met with the consequences.

7:06 Is it true that your mother sent out a mass email warning family members about

7:13 your nude scene and forgetting Sarah Marshall which included the line,

7:16 "It is not gratuitous and is essential to the plot." Yeah.

7:20 And so I thought it would be a really

7:22 really great like one of the great practical jokes not

7:25 to tell my parents that I did Full Frontal Nudity

7:28 and Forgetting Sarah Marshall and then take them to the premiere.

7:31 This was like a really thrilling idea for me.

7:34 And so we go to the premiere and I have my dad on one side,

7:38 my mom on the other cuz I always sit in between them

7:41 and like within it's like 5 minutes into the movie my dick comes out,

7:46 you know, and I'm like, "Oh, here it comes.

7:48 You don't have to wait long."

7:49 Yeah.

7:49 Yeah.

7:50 And I turned to my mom expecting her to be laughing hysterically.

7:53 And her face is beat red and there's a tear coming down her face and I said,

8:00 "Are you okay?" And she said, "Why didn't you tell me?" And I said,

8:04 "I thought it would be a funny joke." She said,

8:07 "It's not a funny joke." And she got up and left the theater.

8:11 And then she came back in and she like put herself together.

8:14 And then that night she sent out an email to the entire family that said, "Uh,

8:18 I would like to inform you that Jason has

8:20 chosen to do full frontal nudity in his newest film.

8:24 However, I'd like to assure you that it

8:25 is not gratuitous and essential to the plot." Factor fiction.

8:31 After a test screening of The Muppets,

8:33 you received a feedback card written by a seven-year-old who said the one

8:37 thing that he didn't like about the movie was your character's face.

8:40 That's right.

8:41 That is fact.

8:42 What do you learn from?

8:43 I have it.

8:43 I have it framed.

8:45 It's like, what did you like?

8:46 Muppets are cute.

8:48 What's your favorite part?

8:49 Muppets sing.

8:50 What did you not like?

8:52 Gary's face.

8:54 Isn't that awesome?

8:56 Now, I've watched a bunch as compared to other eaters, guests.

9:01 How am I doing in relation to the wings?

9:03 Like,

9:04 steady hand.

9:06 Steady.

9:05 But up next is one that rather rudely

9:07 announces itself as homegrown hell in the six spot.

9:11 The sauce leopard.

9:15 Mhm.

9:17 SEAN, I think trying to have any strategy of trying

9:31 to swallow it fast or anything like that, it's useless.

9:33 It's like a boxing match.

9:34 You can walk in with strategy,

9:36 but once the punches start flying, all there is is survival.

9:42 story checks out.

9:44 That's right, man.

9:46 If you were to put together a Peter Sers

9:49 double feature to show off his risk-taking as an actor,

9:53 which two films would you screen?

9:55 I mean, I think if you do, look, Being There is for sure in there.

10:00 Being there broke my brain open.

10:02 I was like, "Oh, you're allowed to do anything.

10:04 Don't let anybody tell you you're just this or just that." And also,

10:08 that movie is a drama.

10:10 I guess there's also incredibly funny moments and incredibly funny line readings

10:14 and I'm like you do not have to be limited by anything.

10:18 Um I think you either put like for the juxiposition

10:22 maybe Pink Panther talk about dancing out there.

10:26 There's like a little bit of bravery that is required to take it for a spin.

10:31 My nose is running a little bit but that's normal I assume.

10:34 Mine too.

10:35 You know through this whole thing same wavelength.

10:38 Amazing man.

10:38 Up next is a sauce called Nirvana.

10:50 Funky's hot sauce.

10:51 Then the possessive like Funky's the guy.

10:55 I'm not trying to be tough.

10:58 Mhm.

10:58 But we're okay.

11:00 Respect cuz I'm a little smoky in the chest

11:02 right now if I'm being totally honest.

11:04 Cuz you confessed to me it's a new year.

11:05 This is your first run at this gauntlet.

11:07 I've been on vacation, you know, a lot of practice and and I can feel it.

11:11 You know, I got to work my way back into game shape over here.

11:13 That's all right.

11:14 You're doing great.

11:16 Thanks, Jason.

11:18 Yeah.

11:18 I understand that you would eat three Hot Pockets every 3 hours.

11:24 Yeah.

11:23 To prepare for your role in the end of the tour.

11:26 What is pound-for-pound the greatest hot pocket flavor in your opinion?

11:29 Uh, the original pepperoni pizza.

11:31 It's what I grew up on, but this was not a healthy thing I did.

11:34 I had to gain like 50 pounds for it because

11:36 I had gotten too skinny for something else right before.

11:39 I feel it now.

11:42 Yeah, I had gotten a little too skinny uh before.

11:44 So, I had like a month to gain 50 lbs.

11:47 So, I ate three Hot Pockets every 3 hours and it was super fun.

11:50 It was a great time in my life, but I wouldn't do it again.

11:53 What makes the BLT the all-time greatest sandwich?

11:55 Cuz you can eat it any time of day.

11:58 That's versatile.

12:00 It is an absolutely perfect sandwich.

12:03 From How I Met Your Mother's Best Burger in New York

12:06 to the raw potato and shrinking to playing a chef in the five-year engagement,

12:12 do you have an all-time favorite Jason Seagull food scene from your career?

12:16 Ooh.

12:16 A scene involving food.

12:21 Yes.

12:21 There is a a scene in I Love You,

12:23 Man where we go around the table and all give toasts.

12:28 There were a bunch of comic geniuses

12:30 at that table and everybody was just slaughtering that zinging.

12:35 Everybody was zinging.

12:36 I often um make sure that I am enjoying the company that I'm in.

12:42 You know what I mean?

12:43 Like, holy moly, this person is amazing.

12:46 And where better to do it than over a meal?

12:48 I feel that way right now.

12:56 Yeah, this is the one.

13:00 Starting to sweat a little bit, but I'm keeping my cool

13:06 always.

13:08 Yeah.

13:10 Might take a second to get No, you're not like that, are you?

13:13 A little bit.

13:13 It's catching you

13:14 every time.

13:15 Every time this sauce, I'll join you.

13:20 Double bite into the bomb.

13:21 Listen, man.

13:22 Oh, so you you go one for one with whoever's here.

13:25 I always Yeah, you have the wheel right now.

13:28 I'm a passenger.

13:29 Okay, good to know.

13:36 Yeah.

13:36 So, yeah, I should ask you some[ __] Yeah, maybe.

13:43 Yeah.

13:43 Take some pressure off over here.

13:46 So before writing and starring in the Muppet movie,

13:49 I know that you were a longtime fan, even crediting Kermit the Frog as one

13:53 of your most important and significant acting influences.

13:58 Absolutely.

13:57 Who do you think is the most underrated deep cut muppet character?

14:01 Like, does Laling get the credit he deserves?

14:05 Look, I'm a big I'm a big Janice fan.

14:12 I think Piggy gets a lot of credit on the lady puppet front,

14:15 but Janice is pretty exceptional as well.

14:18 I also have the Jason Seagull muppet from the Muppets,

14:22 which is pretty cool because they also gave

14:23 me a thing to control it by remote control.

14:28 So, back in the day, I would tell people, "Hey, like come on over to the house.

14:32 I'll leave the front door open.

14:33 I'll be there." And the puppet would be sitting on the couch

14:38 and they'd come in and they'd look around and I could see them.

14:40 And then all of a sudden the puppet would be like,

14:42 "Hello." You know, I've been waiting for you.

14:48 When you're working on a movie with blue chip IP, like the Muppets,

14:52 do you ever have to lose a scene

14:53 or a plot point because it's nixed by the lawyers?

14:56 Like, do you have a scene that you most

14:57 regret losing to the red lines of a contract?

15:00 I I do, but it wasn't to a contract.

15:02 It was to an ethos.

15:04 You know, you have this bad guy,

15:06 Tex Richmond, who's going to destroy their studio.

15:08 And so, the Muppets all have to get back together to defeat this common enemy.

15:12 I had a scene at the end of the movie where all of a sudden Tex Richmond

15:16 unzips himself and it's Kermit and Kermit had orchestrated

15:21 this whole plot to get his friends back together.

15:23 He missed his friends and it actually was

15:25 like really cool and I think very beautiful.

15:28 But then they said, "Listen, we can't do this." I said,

15:30 "Why?" They said, "Cuz Kermit never lies." Kermit never tells a lie.

15:35 It's a rule that's never broken.

15:37 And so, uh, you know, what can you say to that?

15:44 I feel like there's water coming out of holes in my face.

15:47 Yeah, that's what happens.

15:48 We're We're squeezed like a sponge.

15:50 Sure.

15:50 A little bit.

15:51 But all that said, there's no place I'd rather be.

15:57 Jason, let's see if you still feel that way after sauce number nine.

16:02 Up next, a smoked Serrano, the Squash Reaper.

16:05 Reaper X.

16:07 That's like a terrible basketball nickname.

16:10 What a poetic segment, by the way.

16:12 Big three by the Squash Reaper.

16:21 Oh, you get kind of like so blasted by the bone,

16:28 right?

16:28 That it kind of clears it all the same, right?

16:33 There's a cumulative effect that we've had of these wings.

16:36 Total scorched earth.

16:37 Just a flamethrower with the bomb.

16:40 But it does kind of make everything a little bit easier afterwards,

16:45 I find at least.

16:45 Yeah.

16:46 What you got for me?

16:47 Well, you know, on the topic of basketball nicknames,

16:50 I know that you went by Dr.

16:51 Dunk.

16:51 I did

16:52 while at Harvard.

16:53 Well, I didn't go by Dr.

16:54 Dunk.

16:54 Like, I didn't like say, "Hello.

16:57 Hello.

16:57 My name's Dr.

16:59 Dunk." As Dr.

17:00 Dunk, you won the East Coast Slam Dunk Contest in 1997.

17:05 Do you remember the marquee dunk that helped you win?

17:09 Yes.

17:09 I pulled a jersey over my head and I

17:11 had one of my teammates spin me around three times.

17:14 You could obviously see through the jersey,

17:16 but I was like acted really discombobulated like what?

17:22 Oh no.

17:24 And then dunked

17:25 in the place as though I managed to figure out where the hoop was, you know.

17:28 But uh yeah, and then the the next day it said like uh Dr.

17:33 Dunk is born or something in the LA Times.

17:36 People call me Dr.

17:37 Dunk for a couple years.

17:39 They're really weird.

17:44 But this is not a skill that I'm good at at life either.

17:47 Opening these things.

17:50 Let's get it.

17:51 How much are you putting on?

17:52 Like we're doing it.

17:54 That's Yeah, that's textbook right there.

18:00 Is this the worst one by the way?

18:03 We'll see.

18:04 As you'll find, it'll build over here over like the next 15 to 30 seconds.

18:11 Okay, sir.

18:12 Let's finish it up.

18:13 Let's do it.

18:19 We did great.

18:21 And with that, we've reached the summit of Spice Mountain.

18:25 And you know, if there's a through line in this interview,

18:28 it's that as your Hollywood career continues, you're always evolving.

18:32 you know, from theatrical comedies to intimate indies to prestige

18:37 television to multicam sitcoms and even a Muppets movie.

18:43 Yeah.

18:42 To close things out, I'm curious.

18:44 Which of those projects or environments made you most nervous as an actor?

18:48 And which one felt most immediately like home?

18:51 Oh, what a great question.

18:54 You know where I felt really at home?

18:55 Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

18:56 Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

18:57 I really had the naivity of youth.

19:00 And that's the best.

19:01 It really is.

19:02 I was like a kid when I wrote it.

19:03 I was like 24, 25 when I wrote it.

19:05 So people often ask like,

19:06 "What would you go back and tell

19:08 your younger self?" I actually play the opposite game.

19:10 And I try to remember like younger Jason who wasn't afraid of anything.

19:15 Like remind me to be that dude.

19:17 Like let your freak flag fly.

19:19 Felt very at home there.

19:21 Uh I was actually was nervous coming here.

19:24 I don't know if this counts as me as a It counts.

19:26 Yeah.

19:26 Yeah.

19:28 This is probably the most nervous I've been in a while

19:30 because I didn't know what my body was going to do.

19:32 But it turns out I'm great at this.

19:37 Let your freak flag fly.

19:40 And look at you, Jason Seagull,

19:41 taking on the wings of death, living to tell the tale.

19:44 Now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.

19:46 This camera, this camera, or this camera.

19:48 Let the people know what you have going on in your life.

19:51 Cool.

19:52 My name is Jason Seagull and I've just completed The Hot Ones

19:55 Gauntlet and uh my TV show Shrinking uh premieres uh now nowish

20:01 on Apple TV with a bunch of amazing actors and uh I'm

20:05 getting married this year which is the most important thing I've ever done.

20:08 Okay, THANKS.

20:14 We did it.

20:18 That was great.

20:20 I had a great time here.

20:23 Thanks so much.

20:24 You did great.

20:25 Thank you.

20:26 Bodied that.

20:27 So did you.

20:29 I was just trying to keep pace to be honest with you.

20:31 I mean it's it's hot for sure.

20:35 Yeah.

20:40 My mouth right on fire.

20:43 Wants to leave my body.

20:45 Wants to leave my body.

20:49 Hey, what's going on everybody from First We Feast.

20:51 I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.

20:53 It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.

20:55 And today we're joined by Will Arnett.

20:57 He's an actor you know from breakout comedies like Arrested Development,

20:59 Bojack Horseman, The Lego Batman Movie, and many more.

21:02 He's also, of course,

21:03 one-third of the Golden Globe Award nominated podcast Smartless.

21:06 And you can catch him starring opposite Laura Durn

21:08 in the Bradley Cooper directed comedy drama, Is This Thing On?

21:11 Will Arnette, welcome to the show.

21:13 Thank you, Sean.

21:14 It's a pleasure to be here.

21:16 And fun fact,

21:18 yeah, we have the same publicist.

21:19 Before we get started, I wonder how did he pitch hot ones to you?

21:23 I I'm so, you know, nervous about eating hot food.

21:27 I can't even watch people eat hot food, spicy food, you know.

21:30 Um anyway, he said, "You have to do it." And I said, "Uh,

21:34 I I like the idea, but I feel like I'm going to embarrass myself.

21:37 I don't want people to, you know,

21:38 I'm going to have to wear a depens um during the taping." Um and he said,

21:43 "You're going to be great." And Sean's a great guy.

21:45 That's really how he pitched it.

21:46 He said, "You're a great guy."

21:48 Thanks, Louis.

21:49 Appreciate that one.

21:50 All right,

21:50 Louis K from Covert Creative,

21:53 and I'm just doing his favorite thing, which is mentioning him more.

22:20 I can already smell it.

22:22 Wow.

22:30 I'm already like, man, that's really

22:37 This is going to be terrible for me.

22:40 This is a performance unlike any other role that we've seen you in.

22:43 You know, it's a true dramatic pivot.

22:44 Did you have any fears, any anxiety,

22:46 any reservations about portraying a character and then not having

22:50 that protective layer of irony or physical comedy to fall back on?

22:53 Yeah, for sure.

22:54 It was new to to do something where there's not

22:56 at the end of it kind of letting the air out of it.

22:59 Um, and having to really commit to the vulnerability

23:03 to whatever the moment was, uh, was new.

23:07 It was nerve-wracking.

23:08 everyone I was working with, Bradley, multiple Academy Award nominee,

23:12 Lord Durn, Academy Award winner, and uh me.

23:16 I'm there with all these, you know,

23:18 really formidable performers and and having to really sort of commit to this

23:23 and more than holding your own, if you ask me.

23:25 Well, that's nice of you to say.

23:26 Who knows?

23:26 But, you know, it was it was it was scary.

23:29 I see.

23:29 Are you reaching for number two?

23:31 Look at that.

23:32 You're in I thought I could distract you.

23:34 No, no, I'm too traveled.

23:36 I'm too busy.

23:37 We're out of time.

23:37 Listen.

23:40 All right.

23:40 So, up next, a pickled garlic Sriracha sauce.

23:45 Okay.

23:52 Honest question.

23:54 Sure.

23:54 Did you like when you go and you have

23:55 like a plate of spaghetti now and you're like, h

23:58 Yeah.

23:58 Like it's not giving me enough.

24:00 It's not giving you enough.

24:00 Yeah.

24:00 I think maybe to some degree the sensitivity, you know, like I I need it.

24:05 I think I do need it a little bit more.

24:06 That shit's calling you, man.

24:08 It's call.

24:08 I'm feeding.

24:09 I'm scratching.

24:09 I'm itching.

24:10 Wow.

24:11 Interesting.

24:11 That's how that goes.

24:12 I read a quote from Chris Mccay where he talked about how you did

24:15 hundreds of takes before finally landing

24:17 on the right tone for the Batman character.

24:20 Yeah.

24:20 How or when did you know that you'd crack the code on it?

24:22 And can you give us an example of a Batman voice that wouldn't work?

24:26 We just kind of kept going back to that those moments

24:29 in the Batman films and especially Christian Bale, whom I love.

24:31 I think he's a great Batman, but that really kind of gritty serious voice.

24:39 And And then we I just started doing like

24:42 the idea of him going like, "How many wings?

24:46 What is it like 10 wings?

24:48 Why this one?

24:49 Is this one smaller?

24:50 I'd love to get some more ice if I Okay, hang on one second.

24:53 I got to wipe my hands." Like just

24:54 that at every turn all he's doing is talking in Batman.

24:59 It was just kind of to make those guys laugh,

25:01 like just saying the most mundane[ __] And that's kind of where we landed.

25:05 Number three, if you're ready.

25:08 Yeah, let's do it, man.

25:09 So, this is a white hot mustard sauce here in the three spot.

25:15 Sick.

25:16 You like it on the name?

25:17 I do.

25:17 I do.

25:18 White hot mustard.

25:27 Well, the mustard is nice.

25:28 It's a little bit of a heat cutter.

25:31 That was just for shits and giggles.

25:32 I didn't even need a That was just for dramatic effect.

25:36 It was.

25:36 And I like I like I don't drink a lot of milk anymore.

25:39 But here's a good excuse.

25:40 You want to get back in the game?

25:41 A great excuse.

25:43 Can you talk me through the mechanics?

25:44 I'd love to, but I'm super busy doing Hot Ones.

25:49 So, yes.

25:51 of playing a bad magician like Job and Arrested Development.

25:54 like step by step, how does a professional magician

25:57 come in and teach you how to do magic poorly?

26:00 Well, what was funny was that you mentioned that is we did had a very have

26:04 at various stages um magicians come in and teach

26:09 me sort of stuff like how to, you know,

26:10 create fire in your hand.

26:11 And I guess the scene was at a certain

26:14 time a dove didn't come out and then we wanted

26:16 to have this moment where I'm lifting my hands

26:18 and all of a sudden the dove does come out.

26:21 But I remember we had this guy come in and so he's teaching me all this stuff.

26:24 And I actually had to say to him like, "It's okay, man.

26:27 I don't need to be good." Yeah.

26:30 It was so fun playing a guy who was super confident

26:33 that he despite all the evidence that he was not good.

26:38 Uh and that he yet ignored that and continued with this.

26:42 I

26:43 I wish I had more of that.

26:44 I know.

26:45 Just like really unwarranted confidence.

26:48 Uh, I think I've had a lot of that in my life.

26:51 Well, I think it'll serve you today.

26:52 You know what I mean?

26:53 Bite first, ask questions later, you know.

26:55 Yeah, copy that.

26:56 Hey, let's get into another one.

26:58 All right, so up next,

27:02 we have a smoked habanero and peach sauce in the four spot.

27:06 I smoked a habanero once.

27:07 Uh, it was late night and uh it was just my mind was restless.

27:12 Who's feeding and who's itching now?

27:14 Yeah.

27:14 Let's see.

27:15 Here we go.

27:25 That is another level.

27:28 Here's what I want to know.

27:29 Obby, yeah.

27:32 How far did Baitman get?

27:33 All the way to the end.

27:34 All right.

27:34 And that's going to put

27:36 Are you kidding?

27:37 I'm not trying to put pressure on you, but he made it all the way to the end.

27:40 Did he complain?

27:42 Quite a bit, actually.

27:43 Yeah.

27:44 Throughout.

27:44 Yeah.

27:45 He's so soft as you suspect.

27:47 He is so soft.

27:52 Do you have a most painful memory of auditioning in LA during pilot season?

27:55 I understand that in the late '9s,

27:57 early 2000s that you swore off pilots after being

28:00 cast in a series of shows that failed to launch.

28:03 I I did have once, not for pilot season,

28:05 I had one time I read for Kevin Cronin did

28:08 that movie called I think I think it was called The Postman.

28:11 Anybody remember that movie?

28:12 the night before I'd eaten something bad and I ended up

28:15 going to the hospital cuz I was so dehydrated from being ill.

28:20 And at that point, that afternoon going to meet him was the that was

28:23 the furthest I'd been away from the bathroom in like, you know, 14 hours.

28:27 And I remember getting up there and just and meeting him and being a fan

28:30 of his and like this it was like a big and and just sweating,

28:35 cold sweat and just thinking like this can go really bad right now.

28:41 Like I didn't, you know, it's like, yeah, I was meeting Kevin Coer and and and I

28:45 legitimately was worried about crapping my pants, you know.

28:57 And this is your brand, Tropical Emoro by Hot Ones.

29:02 Get it wherever you get your hot sauce.

29:06 That's just a free

29:07 That was That was I know that's not cheap.

29:10 I know that that's not cheap.

29:11 Well, it wasn't for me.

29:12 If you use it, I'm I'm assuming you.

29:18 And then here you have kind of like a island vibe almost.

29:22 There's like some tropical notes up front behind it.

29:24 Some heat.

29:25 Yeah.

29:27 Yeah.

29:27 There is a little bit of heat on the on this island.

29:30 There is.

29:30 Yeah.

29:32 Yeah.

29:31 It's sweaty in the tropics today.

29:33 M

29:34 as a proud Torononian.

29:37 Yeah.

29:36 Where does being inducted into Canada's Walk of Fame

29:39 in 2019 fall in your list of career accomplishments?

29:42 Well, let me just say it's so great fielding field questions.

29:49 There's a lot there's a lot happening.

29:51 There's so much happening.

29:53 Well, Sean, try to ignore what's happening here.

29:56 Stay focused on this.

29:58 I'm really proud of being Canadian.

30:00 And so for them to have me come back there and honor me.

30:03 And also part of me as a Canadian, I'm kind of embarrassed, right, by

30:07 you always feel like even the people giving it

30:09 to you are going to be like, "Here you go.

30:11 Here's your award.

30:12 You're not a big shot." You know, you're like,

30:14 "You're giving it to me." But they were so sweet

30:16 and and kind about it and and uh yeah, it was cool.

30:20 It was like coming coming home after all these years

30:22 and and having that was uh was a really neat experience.

30:26 For the uninitiated,

30:27 what do you see as the allore of the Big Harve burger from Harvey's?

30:31 Oh man, now you're speaking my language.

30:34 The Big Harve is the Cadillac.

30:38 That's what I'm talking about.

30:39 Yeah, the Cadillac of cheeseburgers.

30:41 It's just like a big double.

30:42 You can get it with bacon.

30:44 There's something about the way that they grill up their burgers at Harvey's.

30:48 The way they do their like sliced pickles on a burger.

30:50 Come on.

30:51 How would you quantify the uh significance

30:53 of the Teragon Theater in your development as an actor?

30:56 Pretty huge.

30:57 Look at you guys.

30:59 Who does all the research around you guys?

31:03 When I started there, I was, I guess, 16.

31:05 And I was the youngest by a mile.

31:07 Everybody else were in their 20s or even 30s and and doing these acting classes.

31:12 And it was it was a good sort of trial

31:14 by fire of getting in there and seeing what it was like.

31:16 Yeah.

31:17 just working on scenes and and sort of acting outside of doing school plays.

31:21 What was your first big break?

31:22 Was it a Man Witch commercial in 1987?

31:25 That was pretty big.

31:26 That was my first professional gig.

31:28 You got to remember those.

31:29 Those are special.

31:30 The first time you get paid to do the thing, you know.

31:32 Yeah, of course.

31:33 I I cherish it.

31:34 It's why I had Louis scrub it from the internet.

31:43 Oh, this one seems fine.

31:44 Homegrown hell.

31:46 But you guys don't come up but you

31:47 didn't come up with the name homegrown health.

31:48 No, this isn't ours.

31:49 This isn't ours.

31:50 This is some other psycho.

31:55 I mean, God bless him.

31:58 Yeah.

31:57 I hope he does well.

31:59 You know,

32:00 we wish him all the best.

32:01 Of course we do.

32:03 Mhm.

32:02 I can feel a little my I can feel my body temp my core heating up a little bit

32:07 and cores get hot.

32:08 Yeah.

32:08 And then and I don't want my core to overheat.

32:10 You know, this is none of us do.

32:12 This thing is a finally spontaneously studio.

32:16 I know.

32:16 I know.

32:17 This chassis is no fluke.

32:19 This is built the American way,

32:22 but Canadian obviously.

32:25 So, Conan O'Brien named you alongside Nor McDonald, right?

32:28 Oh, okay.

32:29 This is a compliment.

32:29 Okay.

32:30 It is.

32:31 Is two of his He's kind of my nemesis.

32:33 I understand.

32:34 I get it.

32:34 But two of his all-time favorite talk show guests saying

32:37 that you have an instinct for chaos that makes live TV exciting.

32:41 What's your philosophy on the makings of a great late night segment?

32:44 And how much of it is instinct versus preparation?

32:49 How much is lip replacement uh surgery?

32:53 Is that a is that even a thing?

32:56 It's got to be.

32:58 Oh my god.

32:59 God, my plastic surgeon is so busy with me

33:02 right now cuz I've got all this upcoming work.

33:04 Wait till you see me next year.

33:07 Even better than I can't even imagine.

33:10 Insane.

33:12 It's going.

33:13 It I have so many fun things.

33:15 The mockups look good.

33:16 Oh, they look really good once it settles.

33:22 Are you kidding?

33:25 I understand that we're there to have fun and you

33:28 can tell the difference when it's scripted and when they're

33:30 coming up with in the moment because it also feels

33:33 like the grown-ups uh lent us their cameras and like, hey, we can[ __] around.

33:43 Obviously, we're going to eat it.

33:44 Look, Sean, let's take a minute.

33:49 Yeah.

33:49 Let's just think about all the things that are

33:50 important to us in this life, you know?

33:54 our health.

33:56 Uh, mild food most importantly.

34:00 Yeah.

34:00 All right, I'm going to take a deep breath.

34:03 See you on the other side.

34:04 See you on the other side.

34:09 This is where the air gets a little bit thin for me at this point in the show.

34:13 I'm starting to catch Yeah, I'm starting to catch some tunnel vision.

34:17 eyes are watering up

34:20 in almost kind of a

34:21 How long does it usually last?

34:25 So, here's the deal.

34:26 It's going to get It's going to get worse from here.

34:29 But once you walk Thanks for the good news.

34:30 Yeah.

34:31 Yeah.

34:31 But once you walk out of the studio, okay,

34:34 in like 15 20 minutes, it'll all dissipate and just be a memory.

34:38 You know, you'll be like, "Oh, that wasn't so bad.

34:39 I could almost do it again." But you're not going

34:42 to be feeling that or thinking that when you're actually doing it.

34:45 You know, we're just on a wave that we're surfing right now,

34:49 right?

34:49 Again, with the lips.

34:51 Yeah, I know.

34:51 I know.

34:52 Cuz it's dry out, so I feel like my lips were kind of chapped.

34:55 Mhm.

34:55 So, it's really gotten in there.

34:57 Salt in the wound a little bit.

34:58 Yeah.

34:58 I remember they used to talk about how the butter was going

35:00 to get in all the nooks and crannies on the Thomas' English muffin.

35:04 Yeah.

35:04 The hot sauce.

35:04 The hot sauce is doing kind of that same effect on my lips.

35:10 What's your case for Wendell Clark as the all-time greatest Toronto Maple Leaf?

35:14 pretty solid.

35:15 He's the ultimate hockey player.

35:16 He's the the most incredible power forward.

35:19 He could score, he could fight, he could do it all.

35:22 I spent some time with him re recently and um Did you know he's running?

35:29 Yeah.

35:29 Yeah.

35:29 Yeah.

35:29 A little bit.

35:30 Right.

35:30 Um I'm juicy over here.

35:32 That's fun.

35:33 We're having a blast.

35:35 Um everybody's going to be like, "Hey,

35:37 did you see that guy who's sniffling all the time on that show?"

35:40 But it's all right because every show somebody's sniffling.

35:42 You know what I mean?

35:43 No matter what you're going through.

35:47 Uh-huh.

35:46 I'm going through something.

35:49 And don't apologize for it.

35:51 I'm not.

35:54 You should apologize.

36:02 This stuff is so hot.

36:03 I feel like I'm I'm happy that I've already had kids.

36:07 I feel like this would impact my semen count.

36:12 I guess I have that to look forward to.

36:16 Let me guess.

36:17 This one is like a bucker buster.

36:18 It goes in deep and takes a second and then it just explodes on you.

36:21 Is that the deal?

36:25 So, we bit into that one at the same time.

36:27 You'll really start to feel this, I think, almost immediately.

36:30 Like right now.

36:34 Yeah.

36:32 It should be hitting.

36:34 Any final words you want to say to Lewis before he's fired?

36:42 You still got me, Lewis.

36:43 At least.

36:46 What's your Mount Rushmore of TV sitcoms?

36:48 Like, off the top of your head,

36:49 without thinking about it too much, your top four and why?

36:51 Oh my god.

36:54 Is my face bleeding?

36:55 No, you look great.

36:57 Bleeding me.

36:58 Holy[ __] I'm a Cheers guy.

37:03 Classic for exactly that reason.

37:04 It is classic on the family's amazing.

37:07 The office Golden Girls.

37:10 Holy[ __] It's unreal how funny uh Golden Girls is.

37:14 Some of their jokes are just incredible.

37:16 I'm I know I'm missing some.

37:19 But it it's it's okay because you're in the fog of war over here.

37:22 You know, this spice is coming at you from all sides.

37:27 My mouth

37:28 right on fire wants to leave my body.

37:31 Yeah.

37:37 Holy[ __] Would you like some ice cream?

37:41 Yeah.

37:41 Check this out.

37:42 How quick are we on the draw?

37:43 Oh, that's so good.

37:44 Thank you so much.

37:45 You knew that.

37:46 Thank you.

37:48 That first bite.

37:49 Is that like the best ice cream ever, right?

37:57 Oh, man.

37:57 Joe, how does that feel?

37:59 Good, right?

38:01 Hell yeah.

38:02 Uh, are you ready to dive into the next one or you want to I mean, I don't know.

38:08 Is it going to have the same effect?

38:11 No, it won't be like that last one.

38:14 Okay.

38:20 Now, not fun.

38:22 Not a walk in the park.

38:23 Not a walk in the park.

38:24 But after the last one.

38:26 Yeah.

38:27 I don't want to touch any of like my nose with my one that I had in my mouth,

38:31 which is smart.

38:32 That's why I I' I've actually noticed you've been cycling through the napkins.

38:36 Way to keep your head on.

38:37 You know, sometimes people get lost in this whole thing.

38:40 They use the finger napkin on the face, but right, you're locked in

38:44 when you're in country.

38:46 You know, people ask me all the time, they're like,

38:49 "You're military, right?" And I'm a I'm not really allowed to say

38:56 I can see the way that you react out

38:57 in the field though that you're a trained that you're trained.

39:01 I keep my head on a swivel at all times even on the front lines

39:05 because you never know, you know,

39:06 you're not you never know where is what's going to be the point of engagement.

39:09 Sorry.

39:09 Yeah.

39:11 Again, I'm just an actor and don't do I'm not into covert activities, okay?

39:18 I'm not getting dropped into hot zones.

39:21 Definitely not.

39:22 Yeah.

39:26 As a lifelong enthusiast of the arcade staple,

39:29 what's your case for Golden Tea Golf is the best bar game of all time.

39:36 Sean, what the[ __] man?

39:39 It's so out of love.

39:41 As if it's normal to ask me a question about Golden Tea.

39:46 I used to be so good at Golden D.

39:48 Have you ever played it before?

39:49 Yeah.

39:49 Yeah, of course.

39:50 They used to have it at this bar I used to frequent

39:53 back in the day in the '9s here in New York.

39:56 Was that the Peter McManus bar on 7th Avenue?

39:59 Yes.

40:00 Nice.

40:00 We just called We just called McManis.

40:03 I'm not on the end, you know.

40:05 Yeah.

40:05 Wasn't playing.

40:05 I knew everybody there.

40:06 Great group of people.

40:08 We're going there and there were two machines,

40:09 one in the front, one in the back.

40:10 We owned all the high scores for it.

40:14 is so insane when I think about how much time I spent doing that.

40:17 Let's let's finish this off.

40:18 Well, we're setting a new high score today.

40:20 All right.

40:21 Well,

40:22 no, we're not.

40:29 What are you You're just putting it on, then you're going to roll it in there.

40:31 Yeah, exactly.

40:32 Sick[ __]

40:35 Sean,

40:37 well,

40:36 you you honestly you you bring a great game.

40:39 I love it.

40:40 You want to talk about keeping your cool?

40:41 You're sitting there asking me a bunch of questions.

40:44 And you don't seem like you're suffering at all.

40:46 And I I got to say, I'm just trying to be a steady hand for you.

40:51 Sure.

40:51 All right.

40:51 Well, I love that you're a team player.

40:53 I'm a team player.

40:54 I like that about this together.

40:55 All right.

40:56 It's a dance we share.

40:57 All right.

40:57 Let's get this[ __] over with.

40:59 Let's get this[ __] over with.

41:05 I felt a bunch on my lips and I'm not excited.

41:10 But the good news is the wings of death are behind us.

41:15 All right?

41:15 You have conquered the hot ones gauntlet.

41:18 And to close things out, you know,

41:20 you're one of the defining voice actors of our time.

41:23 And I want to channel that rich vocalization to close out the show here.

41:27 All right.

41:28 I'm going to point to a sauce and I want you

41:30 to articulate the feeling of eating that sauce using effort noises.

41:34 Okay.

41:37 Garlic delight.

41:40 How about tropical amaro?

41:43 What about the bomb beyond insanity?

41:47 And what you just ate, Thermageddon.

41:53 I feel it.

41:54 I'm in the scene.

41:55 And look at you, Will Arnette,

41:57 taking on the wings of death, living to tell the tale.

41:59 Now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.

42:02 This camera, this camera, or this camera?

42:03 Let the people know what you have going on in your life.

42:06 Well, I got to Can I get that ice cream real quick?

42:08 Yeah.

42:08 Yeah.

42:08 Yeah.

42:08 Yeah, ice cream's coming in.

42:09 Can I do that with the ice cream?

42:11 Mhm.

42:11 Do it with the ice cream.

42:12 I'm I'm uh we just ran the gauntlet here at Hot Ones.

42:19 We had a blast.

42:21 If you get a chance, go check out my film, Is This Thing On?

42:24 Starring me and Laura Durn, directed by Bradley Cooper.

42:28 And uh and watch more Hot Ones.

42:30 And I can just tell you, it's real.

42:33 It's so real.

42:35 Too real.

42:36 It's almost too real.

42:37 This is one of the realest moments.

42:38 I feel very awake.

42:50 That was tough.

42:53 Do you feel kind of alive though?

42:55 Yeah.

42:55 Much more awake than when I got here.

42:57 That's right.

42:57 Like much more.

42:58 I was super tired.

42:59 Yeah.

42:59 Those military instincts kicked in.

43:01 Yeah.

43:01 I mean, I I can't obviously again can't talk about it.

43:06 How many wings?

43:08 What is it?

43:08 Like 10 wings.

43:09 Sing.

43:12 I'm having a great time with you, Sean.

43:14 This is definitely the last time I'm ever doing this.

43:22 Hey, what's going on everybody for First We Feast.

43:24 I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.

43:26 It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.

43:28 And today we're joined by Mr.

43:30 Beast.

43:30 He's an entertainment industry juggernaut who's built an empire on challenges,

43:34 survival, stunts, enormous cash, prizes, philanthropy, and much more.

43:37 Feastables is his snack brand,

43:39 and his records shattering competition series is back for season 2.

43:42 Check out Beast Games now airing on Amazon Prime Video.

43:45 Jimmy, welcome to the show.

43:47 Thanks for having me.

43:48 Hey guys, I am terrified cuz I don't normally eat spicy food,

43:51 but this should be a lot of fun.

43:52 Yeah, I'd imagine that there's probably a reason why this has taken

43:56 more than a decade for the two of us to get together.

43:58 We we meet what like twice a year

44:00 at conferences or events and and we're always like, "Yeah,

44:03 we should do it." And uh half the reason is cuz I'm

44:06 terrified of the hot wings and the other half is we're both busy.

44:08 So decided we could make it work.

44:30 Okay, I start here.

44:33 Okay, garlic delight.

44:34 Cheers.

44:38 Okay, not too bad.

44:45 I mean, my mouth's burning a little bit.

44:47 I'm a concerned what the hell is number five if that's number one.

44:51 But so far, we're good.

44:52 Locked in, baby.

44:53 Yeah.

44:53 So, psychology is woven into the fabric of Beast Games with dilemmas that mirror

44:58 classic ethical debates like the trolley problem which was featured in season 1.

45:02 Yeah.

45:03 What if anything have you learned about human behavior hosting this show?

45:06 Like are there any patterns you've observed?

45:09 You would think people would be way more ruthless than they are?

45:12 That's what I've noticed watching the video.

45:13 Like the way people sacrifice themselves for the team,

45:16 it happens much more often than I'd expect.

45:18 And so like we have the largest cash prize in history they're competing for.

45:21 Yet sometimes people do something that worsens their odds to, you know,

45:25 help a friend they just met two weeks ago.

45:26 And so honestly, Beast Games kind of brings out

45:29 my faith in humanity quite a bit because I'm like,

45:30 "Wow, that person just turned down

45:32 a million dollars for these strangers." And so,

45:35 I don't know, but there's also double side

45:37 of it because they know the show is going

45:38 to get tens of millions of views and so

45:40 they're also worried about how they'll be portrayed on it.

45:42 So, it's not also just, you know, helping people out,

45:44 but it's so it's interesting to see all these dilemas

45:46 and to see what people care about more than others.

45:48 Um, and then the really funny part is

45:50 seeing like on TikTok after we drop these things, everyone's like, "No,

45:53 I would have just taken the million dollars." And so

45:55 it's kind of funny because that's what people say,

45:57 but then when they're in that spot, they always act differently.

46:04 Okay, let's do it.

46:11 Okay.

46:13 Tastes about the Well, okay.

46:15 So, you know, there you go.

46:18 I should swallow.

46:18 I should swallow faster.

46:20 Sometimes you just have to let the sauce speak to you a little bit.

46:23 You know, they can be a little misleading at first.

46:27 Mhm.

46:27 From burying yourself alive to spending days on end in solitary confinement.

46:31 What's the most you've ever pushed

46:32 yourself in the noble pursuit of entertainment?

46:35 So, there's three things I hate.

46:36 I really hate being in the sun cuz I'm white.

46:40 I burn like crazy.

46:41 I don't know.

46:41 I share the experience.

46:43 I understand the plate.

46:44 Yeah.

46:44 And so when we did a video, 7 days on Dessert Island,

46:47 it was basically everything I hate, like being sleepd deprived.

46:50 And then I also really hate insects.

46:51 Like having bugs bite you is annoying.

46:53 And so on day two on 7 days on Desert Island,

46:56 I woke up after sleeping on the beach.

46:58 I didn't know sand fleas were a thing.

47:00 And my leg is just covered with thousands

47:02 of little I thought I was going to die.

47:04 I was like, "What?" Like everywhere from my my waist down,

47:08 just like bug bites everywhere.

47:10 I mean, I couldn't see my skin there so much.

47:12 And I was like slightly sunburned and I was

47:14 really hot and I was like, "Nah, I'm out.

47:16 I'm out." So I quit.

47:17 It's one of the few times I've ever quit a challenge and I was just like, "No,

47:21 we got to go back." And we went back out there and we we did it,

47:24 but that first time like it was the most miserable I've ever felt in my life.

47:31 My nose is like dripping snot.

47:33 I don't know if that's a side effect, but let's keep going.

47:37 Oh, the producers must not like me.

47:39 That's a lot of sauce.

47:40 Okay.

47:41 Is this what Jennifer Anderson and everyone has?

47:44 This is the white hot mustard sauce.

47:48 Okay.

47:49 I like the taste.

47:52 I'll wait.

47:53 It really hits when you breathe.

47:54 So, I'm going to breathe.

47:57 Mhm.

47:56 Oh, yeah.

47:57 Oh, yeah.

47:58 Okay.

47:58 Let's just uh hit the milk.

48:02 Mhm.

48:01 It's time.

48:03 Okay.

48:03 So, you're known for being a mentor to countless creators on YouTube

48:07 and not gatekeeping the lessons that you've learned along the way.

48:10 So, if you'll humor me, I want to pull up the mockup of what

48:14 we expect your thumbnail to look like for this video.

48:18 Do you have any notes for our editor, Mari?

48:21 Um, I do think the background's a little noisy,

48:24 especially cuz like if you were to shrink that thumbnail down for a phone.

48:27 Wow, my tongue is actually burning.

48:29 I need to stop letting this touch my tongue.

48:31 Um um it would be kind of hard to tell.

48:35 Um so maybe just a little less noisy background, but for the most part,

48:39 this is what people have come to expect from your brand.

48:41 So it'd be weird if you deviated too much to be honest.

48:44 If there was going to be an evolution or change,

48:46 I think it would have to stem from you

48:47 because people can tell when it's authentic to you.

48:49 Hot Ones is you.

48:50 You know, there's no Hot Ones without Sean and vice versa.

48:53 So it's like if it doesn't come from you

48:55 and the audience doesn't feel that, I they're just going to revolt.

48:58 So, I could say whatever, but honestly, whatever I say,

49:00 if you actually did it, it would just piss them off.

49:02 You know what I mean?

49:08 Okay.

49:08 Habanero and peach.

49:09 That's interesting.

49:15 And this to me is the first kind of step.

49:19 I can tell because this is also the first one that's actually making me cry.

49:22 Yeah.

49:23 And then this is where I'll tell you, be careful around the eyes.

49:25 You know, you'll have this instinct.

49:27 I'm just going to put this over here and grab a new napkin.

49:29 We have lots of napkins over here.

49:31 Yeah, thank you.

49:31 That one uh is full of snot.

49:36 My airways are opening up.

49:37 I can breathe.

49:39 Clearing the sinuses.

49:40 This is nice.

49:40 I I apparently I'm sick.

49:42 I didn't know.

49:43 Do you have a take on the way

49:45 the legacy chocolate giants have reacted to upstarts like yours?

49:49 And are you at all motivated by rivalry?

49:51 A big part of festivals is there's over 1.5 million kids in illegal child

49:55 labor and Kotvar in Ghana where all almost all the world's cacao comes from.

49:59 It's in West Africa and so I actually talked

50:01 to a lot of other big chocolate companies and they're just

50:03 kind of like yeah child labor is just how you

50:05 get cacao you know there's nothing you can do about it.

50:07 So anyways I'll save the long story but that's why

50:10 with feastables we pay all our farmers a living income reference price.

50:12 We use fair trade beans but in exchange they have

50:14 to let us audit and remediate the child labor on the farm.

50:16 So we do sourcing completely different than big chocolate companies do.

50:20 So, I imagine they're not the happiest because, you know,

50:23 now that we're doing that and we're proving that you can,

50:25 you know, ethically source the cacao, you know,

50:28 it shows that they could if they wanted to.

50:29 They just don't.

50:34 Would you believe me if I told you we're at the halfway mark?

50:38 Thank God.

50:41 Oh, I took way too big of a bite.

50:42 Oh god.

50:44 We're in it, baby.

50:45 Yeah.

50:45 I need smaller bites.

50:46 Oh, yeah.

50:47 Yeah, that one.

50:48 I think that was the step up to be honest.

50:50 Like it I've I've taken like three hits of this and it's not three hits.

50:53 Yeah.

50:53 Yeah.

50:54 You've been Yeah.

50:55 The chocolate hits but not enough.

50:57 Not on these.

50:59 Um and then I would suggest maybe slowing down because sometimes the milk

51:04 problem that you create for yourself can be worse than the hot sauce problem.

51:08 I would rather have diarrhea than oh then my tongue be burning.

51:11 I don't

51:12 I'm just speaking from experience.

51:13 That's future me.

51:15 Me right now needs the tongue not to burn.

51:17 Right.

51:17 Okay, then let's continue to be instinctive.

51:20 Going to grab the jug.

51:22 Yeah, I just I don't know who needs these glasses.

51:24 I'm just chilling.

51:25 I'm going to need a lot.

51:26 I hate spicy stuff, but I'm doing this cuz

51:28 I love you and I think this would be fun.

51:30 But oh my gosh, that was only five.

51:42 Too quick and swallow.

51:46 Okay.

51:47 So, you've built this empire on escalation,

51:50 you know, bigger prizes, more money, larger scale.

51:53 Do you ever think about the ceiling of that or is

51:56 the constantly accelerating spectacle the thing that's fun for you?

52:00 Ooh.

52:00 Um, yeah.

52:02 So, we do always one Wow, speaking while your tongue is burning is interesting.

52:08 Mhm.

52:09 We do always one up everything.

52:11 But the the thing I I think most people look

52:13 at like uh one uping yourself as like linear like the only

52:16 way to do it is to give away more money

52:18 or do a bigger set which we do quite a few times,

52:21 you know, increase your prize pool or build big build bigger sets.

52:25 Um you're right.

52:26 It is getting harder.

52:27 Oh.

52:28 Mhm.

52:29 People have seen me give away a bunch of money a bunch.

52:31 They've seen me build big sets a ton.

52:33 Now the thing that will keep them coming back cuz eventually I'll get numb

52:37 to those two things I think is good stories that make you feel something.

52:40 in uh that's been my main focus and that's

52:42 like theoretically a lever over here if that makes sense.

52:46 I'm following I'm following you know no matter what you're

52:49 going through eloquent in the fog of war over here Jimmy

52:54 u let me just grab a new napkin.

52:58 Yeah.

52:57 Keep them in rotation.

53:05 Oo I like that name.

53:11 How dramatic am I compared to other people?

53:14 I like these kinds of episodes where somebody's pushed to the brink.

53:16 To be honest,

53:18 I really I don't handle the spicy stuff well.

53:20 How many Skullvilles is that?

53:23 So, this is another step, you know, like now we're approaching,

53:27 you know, now we're there's sauce in my milk, you know, and a lot going on.

53:35 So, I once heard you talk about how painful it is to see

53:38 people drop out of school or quit their jobs to pursue content full-time.

53:44 Yep.

53:44 How do you think about the balance between the ambition of chasing one's dream

53:47 and the reality that such a small percentage of the people who try breakthrough?

53:53 I think that in my case I the more I talk the more oxygen on the fire.

54:02 Do you want some ice cream?

54:03 Yes.

54:04 Ice cream would be here.

54:05 Come on in.

54:06 Oh, she was ready.

54:07 We are always ready.

54:08 We're always ready.

54:09 You knew that was coming.

54:11 If I think if I let this sit on my tongue, I can't answer the question.

54:14 Yeah, give it a shot.

54:15 Okay, this is good.

54:16 I can I'm good.

54:17 I don't feel it.

54:19 It was either I wanted to be a YouTuber, I didn't care.

54:21 If it's that important to you and you're willing

54:23 to make all those sacrifices and willing to really

54:25 go all in, then I don't think it's

54:26 as crazy and most people don't want it that bad,

54:29 then in that case, I I don't recommend you take the risk.

54:31 like only take the risk where you could

54:33 potentially I mean truly ruin your life if it

54:36 really means that much to you where you

54:37 can't envision yourself being happy unless you achieve it

54:39 and I think maybe you'd agree with this too but like being

54:43 on the inside of it unless you love it ain't worth it anyway.

54:46 Exactly.

54:46 That's the other thing like unless you really really

54:49 love what you do and love creating content like you're

54:51 going to if you were in my shoes you would

54:53 get trapped in a hell accidentally if that makes sense.

54:57 Like this

54:58 right?

54:58 Yeah.

54:59 You could be tethered to this seat eating

55:00 scorching hot chicken wings for over a decade.

55:03 All right, let's keep it going.

55:05 And including this sauce.

55:06 This is debomb beyond insanity.

55:08 Oh god, I don't Bro, I don't like the symbol.

55:10 I'm sorry.

55:11 I I screw that bottle.

55:12 I don't like the symbol on this.

55:14 This scares me.

55:19 Am I going to be okay?

55:24 Got to prepare mentally.

55:25 All right, let's do it.

55:29 Oh god.

55:30 Why are you so sure?

55:31 Huh?

55:32 I wanted a small bite.

55:36 Oh no.

55:37 So I was watching an interview that you did with Terto.

55:41 Yep.

55:41 Where you talked about how in high school you would[ __] people up and speed.

55:44 Oh yeah, I would.

55:45 Well, you know what?

55:46 That's easy to do with a clear mind.

55:48 Try doing that after you've eaten a gauntlet of scorching hot chicken wings.

55:51 So if you'll humor me, I have a I have a fast math pop quiz for you.

55:54 Okay.

55:55 All right.

55:55 If DJ Khaled taps out after the third wing on the Hot Ones gauntlet,

56:01 what percentage of the lineup remains uneaten?

56:05 Why is there hot sauce on us?

56:06 Ah, 60 70%.

56:09 Bang, bang, bang.

56:10 You're renting a studio for $5,125 per day.

56:15 If you shoot there for 12 days straight, what does your rental bill come out to?

56:22 Bro, I've never felt my tongue this way.

56:25 I'm feeling nerves on my tongue.

56:26 I didn't know I had.

56:29 I'm sorry.

56:29 I don't know what you said.

56:31 Okay, you don't have to ask again.

56:33 It's fine.

56:34 You have 88 chocolate bars to split equally in 11 care packages.

56:39 How many chocolate bars in each care package?

56:41 Eight.

56:41 That's easy.

56:42 You got that?

56:43 My tongue is burning.

56:46 You've done a brand deal that pays you 23% of $650,000 in backend revenue.

56:54 What's your checkpoint?

56:57 Hold up.

56:57 Uh-huh.

56:58 Uh, what's what's 2% of five 50,000?

57:02 That is uh uh a,000.

57:05 Um, two two Wait, you said 20 um 130,000.

57:13 Oh, wait.

57:13 But then you said the threeund or I I don't know.

57:16 I'm

57:18 close.

57:18 149,500.

57:21 How are we feeling?

57:24 You can tap if you want to,

57:27 bro.

57:28 Come on.

57:28 You think I'm going to One second.

57:30 Sorry.

57:38 It's only two more.

57:39 Well said.

57:42 This next one, if you're ready, is the smoke squash reaper X.

57:48 Bro, it's coming back.

57:49 Oh, whatever.

57:51 Whatever.

57:52 Let's do it.

57:55 Is my tongue red?

57:57 Looks actually a little white, to be honest.

57:58 I think it's I think it's the ice cream.

58:00 The ice cream.

58:01 Okay.

58:01 Um I'm sorry, guys.

58:04 This interview is not going to get any better.

58:06 I'm sorry.

58:14 From a $100,000 sundae to a $70,000 pizza,

58:19 you've tried some of the most expensive food stuffs in the world.

58:23 Which ultral luxe menu item was most worth its outrageous price tag?

58:27 None of them.

58:28 None of them.

58:29 Bro, it's crazy cuz like a a $5 smash burger will taste

58:32 better than a $70,000 golden pizza with like black truffles on it.

58:36 I h I do not like expensive food.

58:40 It's weird.

58:40 Like, you're not missing out like at all.

58:43 The the when the the more expensive like caviar, I don't like caviar at all.

58:48 It's just It's just like fish eggs.

58:49 Who?

58:51 Oh my gosh.

58:53 I need more ice.

58:59 What were you talking about?

59:02 All right, Mr.

59:03 Beast.

59:04 You can call me Jimmy.

59:10 I don't want this.

59:11 We We'll keep it how it is.

59:15 Bro, smoke coming out of my mouth.

59:17 No, but in post, we can make it happen.

59:19 How much How long does this last?

59:21 You know what?

59:21 And this is the This is the truth.

59:25 After you leave the studio for 20 minutes, you'll be floating a little bit,

59:30 but then it'll clear and you'll almost feel like you could do it again.

59:34 Okay.

59:34 I am starting to feel in my stomach.

59:36 My gosh.

59:37 Hey, there's a lot of ice cream, a lot of milk.

59:42 I I just feel burning pain.

59:44 You don't have to eat it.

59:47 No, I'm not quitting.

59:51 Bro, I swear people are going to put me

59:52 in like TikTok edits beside other celebrities and be like,

59:54 "Oh, it's not that bad."

59:57 Please tell me most people struggle.

59:59 No matter what you're going through, no matter how silly you feel,

1:00:02 way crazier things have already happened on this show.

1:00:05 You know, there's a long legacy.

1:00:06 There's a long the Tik Tok edits are

1:00:09 just going to find the one person that's like,

1:00:10 "Oh, that's not that bad." They're not going to put me.

1:00:12 Don't think about the Tik Tok edits at a time like this.

1:00:15 WE'RE ONE BITE.

1:00:16 WE'RE ONE BITE AWAY.

1:00:18 We're one bite away from GETTING THERE.

1:00:20 MAKING FUN OF ME.

1:00:20 We're one bite away from getting there.

1:00:23 What they'll do is they'll admire the determination

1:00:25 to get through this despite the odds.

1:00:28 Yes.

1:00:28 I'm shaping Totally.

1:00:29 That's what you guys are going to do.

1:00:30 I'm shaping the narrative right now.

1:00:32 That's what they're going to do.

1:00:33 I'm shaping the narrative right now.

1:00:35 I feel like I'm going to throw up.

1:00:37 Let's do it.

1:00:45 And with that, the wings of death are behind us.

1:00:48 You have conquered the hot winds gauntlet.

1:00:50 And to close things out, you published a video called Hi,

1:00:54 Me in 10 years, where you talked to your future self,

1:00:57 a 17-year-old Jimmy Donaldson.

1:00:59 Yeah.

1:01:00 With a trillion Scovilles coursing through your veins,

1:01:02 I'm wondering if you could send another message to your future self.

1:01:05 And if you want, you can stare down the barrel of the camera.

1:01:09 What would you tell Jimmy in 10 years if he's considering doing Hot Ones again?

1:01:15 Don't.

1:01:15 It's not worth it.

1:01:16 You're not worth it.

1:01:17 It's literally not worth it.

1:01:19 Sean's cool.

1:01:23 It's not worth it.

1:01:24 M.

1:01:25 And with that,

1:01:28 I'm never eating again.

1:01:30 Jimmy, you have taken on the Hot Ones gauntlet and lived to tell the tale.

1:01:33 Now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.

1:01:36 This camera, this camera, or this camera,

1:01:38 let the people know what you have going on in your life.

1:01:45 Um, well, I just dropped Beast Game season 2 if you want to watch it.

1:01:49 I actually I think I'm going to throw up.

1:01:52 I'm going to go TO THE TOILET.

1:01:58 THAT'S HOT.

1:02:03 Do you feel that way?

1:02:03 I know.

1:02:04 Like, do you want to run?

1:02:06 I might go to it real quick.

1:02:07 Yeah.

1:02:07 Yeah.

1:02:07 Yeah.

1:02:07 Yeah.

1:02:08 Yeah.

1:02:09 Uh, I need to wash my hands.

1:02:11 That's hot as[ __] Oh my god.

1:02:19 Go ahead.

1:02:19 What do I do?

1:02:20 You just survived.

1:02:21 I have nothing to do.

1:02:22 You just hold on.

1:02:27 Hey, what's going on everybody for First We Feast.

1:02:29 I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.

1:02:31 It's the show with hot questions and even

1:02:32 hotter wings and today we're joined by Madison Beer.

1:02:35 She's a Grammy Award nominated singer, songwriter, and producer.

1:02:37 Her latest album, Lock It,

1:02:39 is out now and she's about to embark on an arena tour this summer.

1:02:41 Be on the lookout for show dates near you.

1:02:43 But in the meantime, it's a goround with the Wings of Death.

1:02:46 Madison Beer, welcome to the show.

1:02:48 Thank you.

1:02:48 I'm like welling with tears.

1:02:50 I can't believe I'm here.

1:02:51 And we haven't even started.

1:02:52 I know.

1:02:52 I'm just so excited.

1:02:53 What's going through your head as you prepare to take on the Hot Ones gauntlet?

1:02:56 Are you someone who enjoys spicy food?

1:02:59 Um, I wasn't my whole life and then recently

1:03:02 I've embarked on like the Bulldog Ramen level of spice.

1:03:05 Where do you like Where would that rank?

1:03:07 It's not a nothing.

1:03:09 It's not enough.

1:03:09 It's a good foundation that you have.

1:03:11 It's not a nothing.

1:03:12 Um, but no, growing up I never really liked spicy foods,

1:03:14 but I don't think it's cuz I I just never tried it.

1:03:16 So, once I started trying it, I became into it.

1:03:19 A whole new world opened up.

1:03:21 Or maybe I was just training subconsciously for this moment right here.

1:03:47 So this is called garlic delight.

1:03:48 Okay, that doesn't sound bad.

1:03:51 I'm like, where's a safe spot?

1:03:59 Mhm.

1:04:00 I've been here, I think.

1:04:06 Nothing alarming.

1:04:07 A little bit, actually.

1:04:08 Oh, no.

1:04:09 Oh, no.

1:04:10 Oh, gosh.

1:04:11 I'm not touching this yet.

1:04:12 All right, then.

1:04:12 Neither am I.

1:04:13 We're in a standoff.

1:04:14 Oh, no.

1:04:15 It's spicy.

1:04:16 So, in the past, I've interviewed comedians about

1:04:18 the qualities that make a great first joke

1:04:20 to tell on stage and the qualities that make a great last joke to tell on stage.

1:04:23 And I wonder if there's a correlary in pop music.

1:04:26 Like, when you have an album like Locket,

1:04:28 what makes Locket theme the right kind of sound to open up the album?

1:04:31 And then what makes a song like nothing at all the right one to close it out?

1:04:34 Oh my god, that's so cool that you know that.

1:04:37 I think for me, I kind of always have liked ending on sort of an emotional note.

1:04:43 Nothing at all I felt like was a cool one for me to end with because

1:04:45 it felt sort of like this message that I kind of wanted to leave the album with.

1:04:49 And then Locket theme.

1:04:50 I love that one cuz I think it just opens in this dreamy

1:04:53 sort of landscape and you just get kind of brought in.

1:04:56 It's like a hypnotizing kind of wall of sound there with the har.

1:04:59 Thank you.

1:04:59 Exactly.

1:05:00 I just wanted I wanted it to also I

1:05:02 think it was more lyrically what I was focused on.

1:05:04 So the intro is really talking to like my fans directly and our relationship

1:05:08 and all that stuff and then the ending was kind of like a personal note.

1:05:11 One wing down and it was spicy.

1:05:13 But the only way out is through.

1:05:15 The only way out is through.

1:05:16 All right, so up next is a pickled garlic Sriracha.

1:05:19 I'm scared.

1:05:20 I shouldn't be this scared this soon.

1:05:26 That was a bigger bite than I intended.

1:05:33 That one's less spicy.

1:05:35 Is there a Carolina?

1:05:36 What is that one?

1:05:36 The the Carolina Reaper.

1:05:38 Every lineup has a Carolina Reaper.

1:05:40 Oh, cool.

1:05:40 I'm just letting you know I'm a chicken

1:05:42 wing talk show host of the highest dignity.

1:05:44 I try to be transparent from the side of the table.

1:05:46 Right.

1:05:47 Thank you.

1:05:48 So whether it's sampling the elevator ding

1:05:50 in severance or taking the keep calm mantra

1:05:53 and turning on it on its head for a song like stay numb and carry on.

1:05:56 Oh my goodness.

1:05:57 Your music, your visuals, they often times mix in some comedy with the drama.

1:06:02 As a songwriter, what do you see as the role

1:06:04 of humor and otherwise sad or emotionally heavy songs?

1:06:08 This is really cool.

1:06:09 I well okay so severance I just am obsessed

1:06:12 with that show it's my favorite show and when we were

1:06:14 writing complexity which is the song it's in I wrote

1:06:18 a lyric that was like remember the time you severed me

1:06:20 just had to shout them out and I was like

1:06:22 we must put the doorbell ding which actually I think we

1:06:24 had to remake the ding cuz I don't think we

1:06:27 actually got it clear so we had to like remake it

1:06:31 tried to sample it they were like no and so we had to remake

1:06:33 it but I'm someone who like I need that comedic relief throughout heaviness

1:06:38 and I think I sometimes like I tend to sway a bit dark

1:06:42 and deep when I talk whether it's in an interview or podcast I've done whatever.

1:06:46 I feel like I get a little bit intense sometimes.

1:06:48 So I'm trying to learn how to soften those things.

1:06:51 And I think on my album those are those moments where I'm like,

1:06:52 "Okay, we can throw in something that feels fun." Okay.

1:07:00 I'm trying to also savor everything because I've wanted to do this for so

1:07:03 long that I'm like I don't want to move through it too fast.

1:07:05 Oh, I can slow it down.

1:07:06 This is great.

1:07:07 I'm just happy to be here, man.

1:07:09 So, up next is a white hot mustard sauce here in the three spot.

1:07:14 Do you guys make all of these?

1:07:15 So, we make a couple of them.

1:07:17 We make

1:07:17 Okay.

1:07:17 I'm looking at the one that's a hot

1:07:18 second one, the middle one, and the last one.

1:07:21 The last one.

1:07:28 That one's good.

1:07:30 Is there a vocal warm-up or exercise that you swear

1:07:32 by, no matter how silly it may look to the outside world?

1:07:36 Ooh, you know what?

1:07:36 I am definitely not the best with that and I just will be

1:07:40 in my dressing room beforehand listening to whatever album or soundtrack that I

1:07:44 love the most of the time and I'll just sing through songs

1:07:47 I love which probably isn't the best way to warm up your vocals.

1:07:50 So don't take my advice but that's personally what

1:07:52 I do and I'm not going to lie to you.

1:07:58 If Gordon Ramsay was reacting the way he reacted, I'm really scared.

1:08:13 Look at that shrug.

1:08:14 That's a confident shrug right there.

1:08:18 This is easy.

1:08:19 No.

1:08:19 No.

1:08:20 Yeah.

1:08:20 Right.

1:08:20 So, what I was about to say about this sauce is it's smoked habanero and peach.

1:08:25 So, I think you get the peach up front, right?

1:08:27 M y switch.

1:08:29 Exactly.

1:08:30 That kind of Trojan horse is in that heat

1:08:33 that's on the other side.

1:08:34 Cuz if you're good, I'm not.

1:08:35 I can feel it in my chest already.

1:08:37 I feel it.

1:08:38 Same wavelength.

1:08:39 I'm really scared.

1:08:40 I'm trying to be cool here.

1:08:41 And I I'm really afraid.

1:08:42 It's all right.

1:08:43 You know, no matter what you're going through,

1:08:44 no matter how silly you feel like you look on this show,

1:08:47 way weirder things have happened on this side.

1:08:49 I've I've seen all of it.

1:08:50 Watched every episode.

1:08:53 from the talkbox to a looping machine.

1:08:55 What's your favorite piece of equipment in the studio

1:08:58 to just mess around with in between?

1:09:00 I really love That's awesome that you know about my talkbox endeavor.

1:09:03 I played it on my first ever I saw you on stage.

1:09:06 Yeah.

1:09:06 Yes.

1:09:06 I played it and I don't know that I was so great at it.

1:09:10 You have to like boil the tube to make it sound the tube.

1:09:13 I didn't.

1:09:14 So mine was like really hard and really tough to use and I

1:09:18 execution it sounded good.

1:09:19 I wouldn't have known.

1:09:20 You didn't tell me.

1:09:20 my song Fools, honorary mention to Fools.

1:09:23 Um, I played it.

1:09:24 I have a little bit of a talkbox vocoder thing happening

1:09:28 and I played it on my first tour and people were like,

1:09:31 "Why does she have this tube in her mouth?" And I don't know,

1:09:34 I just feel like I love a lot of those sounds.

1:09:35 I'm a huge Da Punk fan.

1:09:36 Stevie Wonder that there's so many people

1:09:38 that I think use those kinds of things.

1:09:40 Vocoder is something that I love the most.

1:09:43 Sorry, this is a long-winded answer and I think

1:09:45 it's cuz I'm like my throat's closing maybe a bit.

1:09:47 Yeah, but you know what?

1:09:48 I know every stall tactic in the book.

1:09:49 All right.

1:09:50 Absolutely.

1:09:50 You're a seasoned vet

1:09:51 over the years.

1:09:52 Yeah.

1:09:52 Yeah.

1:09:52 Yeah.

1:09:52 Vocoder though is my final answer.

1:09:54 I love vocoder.

1:09:56 Well, if that's your final answer, that means

1:09:57 that means we're moving on to another wing.

1:09:59 I know how this goes.

1:10:01 Okay, this is yours.

1:10:06 My bus broke down there one year.

1:10:08 Amario.

1:10:09 Shout out to Amaro.

1:10:10 Yeah.

1:10:10 And I went to this place called the Big

1:10:11 Texan and they have like a crazy challenge.

1:10:14 They have a like a Wow.

1:10:15 The synergy challenge putting on the big situation.

1:10:18 This is perfect.

1:10:19 Okay.

1:10:19 Cheers.

1:10:21 Cheers.

1:10:23 I'm like analyzing every wing before I bite it for like the least saucy part,

1:10:28 but I feel like that's cheating.

1:10:29 And I Well, and you know what?

1:10:31 You can't anyway.

1:10:31 All right, we got some full coverage.

1:10:34 You guys know what you're doing.

1:10:35 I know.

1:10:37 Not bad.

1:10:38 We're halfway done.

1:10:39 I'm standing tall.

1:10:40 The one before, I would say, is spicier for me.

1:10:44 Dancing on it.

1:10:45 Thank you.

1:10:46 From Jericho Deli to Kitchen Cabaret, Bagel Boss, and beyond.

1:10:50 What is Poundforpound the best place to get a breakfast sandwich in the 516?

1:10:54 Oh my god.

1:10:56 Amazing.

1:10:57 Um, wow.

1:11:00 So, Bagel Boss is probably where where you'll find me.

1:11:03 Do you want to know my order?

1:11:04 Yeah, of course.

1:11:05 Am I okay?

1:11:06 Um, it's a little weird maybe to some.

1:11:10 To me, it's not.

1:11:10 My mom is here.

1:11:11 This is her order.

1:11:12 Been passed down to me.

1:11:13 Plain bagel, toasted.

1:11:16 I can't think.

1:11:17 Egg whites, monster cheese, salt and pepper.

1:11:21 Give it a go.

1:11:22 Let me know what you think.

1:11:23 If you can only recommend one,

1:11:25 Ralph's Italian Ices or a frapple from the Jericho Cider Mill.

1:11:30 You're goated for this.

1:11:32 Um, I would recommend what was the first one?

1:11:36 My brain is turning off.

1:11:38 Ralph's Italian.

1:11:39 Ralph's Italian is by far.

1:11:40 That's why I was like, wait, what did you say?

1:11:41 I have been going there my entire life.

1:11:43 Um, Blue Hawaii is my favorite flavor.

1:11:46 Second up would be vanilla chip.

1:11:50 Can't go wrong.

1:11:50 I sometimes will go crazy and do a double scoop.

1:11:54 Yeah, get wild with it.

1:11:54 It's a little bit of a weird combo cuz one

1:11:56 is like a milky one and one's an icy one, but it works for me.

1:12:00 Can you describe your ideal afternoon itinerary at Brandt

1:12:03 Lake in New York in as much detail as possible?

1:12:05 Oh my god, I'm going to start crying.

1:12:07 You're pulling on my heartstrings.

1:12:08 Um, I just have to say like summer camp was my favorite thing growing up.

1:12:13 And once I started all of this, that was the most devastating part

1:12:16 was not being able to go cuz I was like working at 13, which was ridiculous.

1:12:19 But the best day would be waking up.

1:12:21 I would always do the early bird ski.

1:12:24 Love to water ski.

1:12:25 I can sort of solemn ski a little bit.

1:12:27 Fun fact about me, not many know.

1:12:29 Do some arts and crafts.

1:12:30 I would ideally be in a play that year, be practicing for said play,

1:12:34 maybe hit a tubing moment and then eat

1:12:38 dinner and they had really fun evening activities.

1:12:40 They would always have like these fun crazy games.

1:12:41 I loved the trivia game.

1:12:43 Basically, it was just a cooking tray they would put upside down and put

1:12:45 a spatula on it and that's how you like said you had the answer.

1:12:48 But I was always really good at the random trivia.

1:12:50 And so I loved I loved that night.

1:12:53 This is amazing.

1:12:54 The fact that we're talking about my summer camp is awesome.

1:12:57 I'm so happy.

1:12:58 But I know

1:13:00 you know all too well the sequencing here.

1:13:02 Back to reality.

1:13:03 This next one is called Homegrown Hell.

1:13:05 We're in the back half now.

1:13:07 Picturing Brent Lake.

1:13:09 Exactly.

1:13:09 Go to Go to a happy place.

1:13:11 We're in the back half now.

1:13:12 All right.

1:13:14 I'm fearful.

1:13:23 I think I just have been mentally

1:13:24 preparing for this my whole life without knowing.

1:13:26 Well, yeah.

1:13:26 I can tell.

1:13:27 Thank you.

1:13:27 I can tell calm under pressure.

1:13:29 When you were doing the intro, I was like,

1:13:30 I can do it for you if you would like.

1:13:32 I know every word you're about to say.

1:13:35 Is there an achievement of yours that's meant most to you personally in terms

1:13:38 of really validating your roller coaster

1:13:41 journey through the trenches of pop music?

1:13:43 The trenches they have been because I've never

1:13:46 really achieved some of those like, you know, pillars.

1:13:48 I have been able to just be way more grateful for the stuff that feels

1:13:51 really real and is my fans and those people who show up and whatnot.

1:13:55 So, that's what I'm really proud of the most.

1:13:57 Um, I'm playing Madison Square Garden this year,

1:13:59 which is insane and has been just as much of my dream as doing this show.

1:14:02 So,

1:14:03 yeah, checking a lot of the boxes.

1:14:05 This is like seriously though, I would say Madison Square Garden,

1:14:08 you maybe like getting a Grammy, but now I've been nominated.

1:14:11 I'm like, it's okay.

1:14:12 Like, the nomination has checked it off a bit.

1:14:13 It's like a, you know, it's like a light check.

1:14:16 It's like a pencil that's like light.

1:14:18 You know what else?

1:14:19 You're also just four wings away from conquering the Hot Ones gauntlet.

1:14:23 Dude, this is a big

1:14:24 one after another.

1:14:26 putting them up, knocking them down.

1:14:28 I'm like I'm kind of afraid.

1:14:30 Am I okay that I'm not reacting to this?

1:14:32 Well, let's see how it goes.

1:14:33 Okay.

1:14:33 Right.

1:14:33 This is where we're at.

1:14:34 Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

1:14:35 I know the bomb is the scary the one that I'm fearing.

1:14:38 Yeah.

1:14:38 Yeah.

1:14:39 But you don't want to get too cocky.

1:14:40 You know, you don't want to start celebrating before the finish line.

1:14:42 That's when we catch a cramp, you know?

1:14:44 For sure.

1:14:45 Oh, a cramp.

1:14:46 Okay.

1:14:46 Looking out for that.

1:14:48 All right.

1:14:48 So, up next, Nirvana.

1:14:51 Nirvana.

1:14:52 Okay.

1:15:00 Dragon's breath sauce.

1:15:02 That's appealing.

1:15:05 Oh, it is dragon's breath.

1:15:06 I just When I felt it, I really experienced the dragon's breath.

1:15:10 Oh my god.

1:15:12 Same page.

1:15:12 We're both riding the same wave right now.

1:15:14 I took a really big bite.

1:15:17 Am I in danger?

1:15:18 No.

1:15:19 No.

1:15:19 You're going to be okay.

1:15:20 Remember, you've prepared for this your whole life.

1:15:22 All right.

1:15:22 You've got this.

1:15:23 You've got this.

1:15:24 Wow, that really that was a punch in the face.

1:15:26 I asked for it.

1:15:27 And you know what?

1:15:27 This is a long winding question with some context up front.

1:15:30 So, you'll have a beat.

1:15:31 You'll have a beat.

1:15:32 All right.

1:15:33 So, from the freezing temperatures of a New

1:15:36 Year's Eve performance in Time Square to scrambling

1:15:39 for replacement rings before the Victoria Secret to even

1:15:43 performing at La Palooa when you were a teenager,

1:15:46 what stands out as like the most nerve-wracking live gig of your career so far?

1:15:51 Probably this.

1:15:54 No.

1:15:54 Um, I'm crying a bit.

1:15:56 Um, I'm not going to touch my eyes.

1:15:57 I know.

1:15:57 I know.

1:15:58 I know.

1:15:58 That's You're about to say that.

1:16:03 I So lives.

1:16:07 So, Jimmy Fallon was scary because I had really wanted to do it for a long time.

1:16:12 Wow, I'm fully crying.

1:16:14 This is insane.

1:16:15 when you're performing in an intimate club versus a massive arena.

1:16:19 I know the tunnel vision starts to happen,

1:16:21 but you and me, we're on the same page here.

1:16:24 I'm curious, what's the trade-off for an artist?

1:16:26 Like, what did you ask me?

1:16:27 When you're performing, all right, in a small venue performing in a small

1:16:31 versus a massive arena.

1:16:32 What's the tradeoff for an artist?

1:16:34 Like, is there something that you can do in a 500 capacity

1:16:37 room that maybe you couldn't at say the forum or vice versa?

1:16:41 Oh my gosh.

1:16:41 Okay.

1:16:42 Well, to be honest with you, sometimes, not always,

1:16:44 but sometimes the smaller venues are scarier because

1:16:47 you can see every single person's face very clearly.

1:16:50 And so, if one person's not into it,

1:16:52 you just see them like, "What is that was really bad," you know?

1:16:54 And it's a little more intimidating.

1:16:57 Personally, for me, like when I've performed on a bigger stage,

1:17:00 let's say at a festival or whatnot, um I'm less nervous.

1:17:04 My lips burn.

1:17:05 I know.

1:17:06 I know, man.

1:17:07 I apologize.

1:17:08 I apologize on behalf of the show.

1:17:10 Um, I I feel What was I talking about?

1:17:15 The the scale and the spectacle of a big crowd.

1:17:18 It's more abstract and therefore you can kind of forget that you

1:17:21 have so many eyeballs on you cuz it just looks like who,

1:17:25 you know, love you and are there and then you can kind of like

1:17:28 disassociate a bit like I'm trying to do now.

1:17:30 But in the small rooms, you can't go anywhere.

1:17:32 You're just like you're there and you're just like, "Oh, hey Carl.

1:17:36 Hey Nancy." Like you see everyone.

1:17:37 You know everyone.

1:17:38 It's just sometimes a little scarier.

1:17:40 So, I'm excited for this next tour cuz I'm

1:17:42 doing some of the biggest shows I've ever done.

1:17:45 No, no, no.

1:17:45 I can't.

1:17:46 I'm doing it, but I'm I can I can

1:17:52 This is beyond insanity.

1:17:54 It is that moment.

1:17:54 Oh my god.

1:18:00 I'm just also really I genuinely am trying

1:18:02 to soak this up because I know once it's over,

1:18:04 I'm going to be like, "Wow, I did that."

1:18:06 Come back.

1:18:08 I would love to.

1:18:09 I'll co-host the show with you if you would like me to.

1:18:13 Can you hit me with a Hey, what's going on?

1:18:14 So nice to meet you.

1:18:15 Hey, what's going on everybody?

1:18:17 I'm Sean Evans with First We Feast and today

1:18:19 we have the amazingly talented Shaun Evans on the show.

1:18:22 Was that good?

1:18:23 I'm trying to remember what you said.

1:18:24 Okay.

1:18:25 Okay.

1:18:27 Right.

1:18:28 It is the exhale first.

1:18:29 Okay.

1:18:30 Okay.

1:18:34 Mhm.

1:18:34 Was that a decent bite?

1:18:36 That was great.

1:18:37 Textbook.

1:18:39 My right eye is going like I can't see out of it anymore.

1:18:42 Yeah, but just don't touch.

1:18:43 All right.

1:18:43 No touching.

1:18:43 Be very careful.

1:18:44 No touching.

1:18:44 No touching.

1:18:45 No touching.

1:18:49 Hands up.

1:18:50 Okay.

1:18:50 As a collector of vintage books,

1:18:52 is there a title on your shelf you'd describe as your holy grail?

1:18:56 I like to collect these really Wow.

1:18:58 I'm not okay.

1:18:59 I don't think I like to collect these

1:19:01 really random like books, fairy books, weird things that people write about.

1:19:09 I like old psychology books.

1:19:11 I think it's interesting to see how far we've come with the study of psychology.

1:19:15 Do you mind?

1:19:16 Yeah.

1:19:16 Go ahead.

1:19:17 Go ahead.

1:19:18 Oh my god.

1:19:19 Go ahead.

1:19:20 What do I do?

1:19:21 You just survived nothing to do.

1:19:22 You just survive it.

1:19:23 You just survive it.

1:19:24 I'm going to crop the mic.

1:19:25 Cut it down.

1:19:27 Tear tear tear this place inside out.

1:19:29 Oh my god.

1:19:29 It's the least we can do.

1:19:32 What in your opinion is the greatest Shell Silverstein

1:19:34 book or poem and what's your case for it?

1:19:36 I have The Giving Tree tattooed.

1:19:37 That's Shell Silverstein, right?

1:19:39 I'm like I don't know anything anymore.

1:19:41 I have The Giving Tree tattooed on my ankle because I feel like reading

1:19:45 it as one of my first books ever really like I loved I loved it

1:19:53 and I thought it was really a beautiful story and I think giving and and being

1:19:59 a kind person is very important and I think that book taught me that.

1:20:03 Do I look okay?

1:20:04 Am I crying?

1:20:05 We're just thinking about the giving tree.

1:20:06 All right.

1:20:07 in in the kind of impact.

1:20:08 I feel like right now

1:20:14 my eyes are burning just from being like near it.

1:20:17 Welcome to my world.

1:20:18 How do you do this?

1:20:19 Okay.

1:20:20 Smoke squash.

1:20:21 Reaper X.

1:20:23 Okay.

1:20:23 You were looking for that Reaper moment.

1:20:24 I know.

1:20:24 Here is my Reaper moment.

1:20:26 Yay.

1:20:35 Well, I'm feeling

1:20:43 I'm feeling like I can't speak because it's going to come up and attack me.

1:20:47 It's going to hear you talking.

1:20:48 Yeah, it's like it's like, "Oh, you thought that's funny."

1:20:51 F Mary Kill Video Game Edition.

1:20:53 Fall Guys Outlast.

1:20:55 Dress to impress.

1:20:56 Okay, wait.

1:20:57 I'm replacing Outlast with Fortnite just to make it harder for myself.

1:21:02 Fall Guys feels like a very important one for me because

1:21:04 I played it with my fans a lot when I was

1:21:06 streaming a little bit randomly and they would always try

1:21:08 to grab me and throw me off and I was like, "What?

1:21:11 We're supposed to be allies here." And so

1:21:13 that was probably one that I can't take off, but Fortnite I would marry.

1:21:19 I love Fortnite.

1:21:20 They've changed it too much now though.

1:21:21 I'm a little bit upset with you Epic Games because let them have it.

1:21:24 It's No, seriously.

1:21:25 Let's let's speak really quickly.

1:21:26 Let's get serious.

1:21:28 Stop changing things that we love about Fortnite.

1:21:30 Keep it original and keep it I don't know which camera to look at.

1:21:33 I'm looking at both.

1:21:34 And give me a skin, please.

1:21:36 And my watch came undone.

1:21:38 That's all.

1:21:40 All right, Madison.

1:21:41 Oh, we dab it.

1:21:42 Yes.

1:21:43 Oh my god.

1:21:44 I've always wanted to do this.

1:21:45 Sorry.

1:21:46 I'm going to be so embarrassed after I watch this.

1:21:47 Why was I like going like this?

1:21:54 Is it poisonous?

1:21:56 Oh my goodness.

1:21:56 Okay, I guess I'm going to find out.

1:21:58 I've

1:21:58 made it so far.

1:21:59 All right, 10 years in counting.

1:22:00 I'm still standing.

1:22:03 Cheers.

1:22:04 Cheers.

1:22:04 This has been a dream come true.

1:22:06 And I mean that for both of us.

1:22:07 Maybe I'm speaking too soon.

1:22:09 You I'm taking a bite of this part.

1:22:11 Yeah, I have to.

1:22:12 You have to.

1:22:12 We're here.

1:22:13 All right.

1:22:16 Okay.

1:22:18 Oh my god.

1:22:20 Oh my god.

1:22:21 I took the biggest bite ever.

1:22:23 But that's the way to go out.

1:22:25 I had to.

1:22:26 You have now conquered I ate half the wing.

1:22:29 The Hot Ones gauntlet.

1:22:30 And to close things out, you know,

1:22:32 I think if there's a theme or a thesis to this era of your career,

1:22:36 it's that you're in total lockep with your instincts.

1:22:39 Even saying when you listen to your gut, things turn out better.

1:22:43 Now that you've conquered the world's spiciest wings, I'm curious,

1:22:46 what is your gut saying to you right now?

1:22:48 Run, get out, leave quickly.

1:22:51 No.

1:22:51 Um, I think that that's really cool and I appreciate you saying that and I

1:22:56 think I'm someone that I've been really

1:22:58 scared to honestly even do something like this.

1:23:00 I've always wanted to, but like putting myself

1:23:02 out there and I guess just, you know,

1:23:04 having it just be this is has been intimidating for me as someone who grew

1:23:07 up on social media with like the level of scrutiny that I think came with that.

1:23:10 As a very young person,

1:23:12 it's been scary for me to put myself out there or want to.

1:23:15 My eyes are welling.

1:23:15 Once again, I'm not emotional.

1:23:17 I'm just It's this.

1:23:18 It's this guy.

1:23:19 Um, oh my god.

1:23:21 It's a bait and switch one.

1:23:23 I know.

1:23:24 I know.

1:23:24 And it's the 10 that you've eaten.

1:23:27 But look it.

1:23:28 It's all over.

1:23:29 It's done.

1:23:30 We can roll curtains.

1:23:32 And now there's nothing left.

1:23:33 No, I need to finish my answer.

1:23:35 I need to

1:23:36 for me, for you, for us.

1:23:39 Um, what was I saying?

1:23:40 What was I talking about?

1:23:41 Don't tell me.

1:23:42 Um, my gut says put yourself out there.

1:23:46 do what feels good to you because life will pass you by.

1:23:49 And I know that if I didn't do

1:23:50 this or I didn't do things that felt like fun things,

1:23:53 put myself out there.

1:23:54 What because of people who hate on me, I'm not going to give them that.

1:23:58 I want to do the things that feel fun and good to me.

1:24:01 Um, and that's inclusive of my music.

1:24:02 And I want to make music that feels good to me.

1:24:05 Whether it's charting or not, I just want to do things that feel good to me.

1:24:09 And I hope that people can do the same.

1:24:12 I really hope people can do the same.

1:24:14 Words to live by.

1:24:15 And look at you, Madison Beard, taking on the wings of death.

1:24:19 Living to tell the tale.

1:24:20 And now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.

1:24:22 This camera, this camera, this camera.

1:24:24 Let the people know what you have going on in your life.

1:24:28 This is what I have going on.

1:24:30 And come see me on tour.

1:24:32 I promise I'm going to put on a good show and listen to my album,

1:24:36 Lock It, and be nice to people and love you guys.

1:24:40 And thanks for having me.

1:24:42 OKAY.

1:24:46 OH MY GOD.

1:24:53 WOW.

1:24:53 Thank you so much.

1:24:55 And then the last thing we'll do is they'll do this like slow zoom up.

1:24:58 Yeah.

1:24:59 Come on.

1:24:59 I'm not

1:25:01 I'm a huge fan.

1:25:02 What's your favorite one?

1:25:04 Dude, honestly, I love Gordon.

1:25:07 Like me Gordon's episode.

1:25:08 I think he's just so[ __] funny.

1:25:10 But

1:25:10 that was such a big moment for us, you know?

1:25:12 Like I always felt like like I felt like the internet

1:25:14 kind of peer pressured us into a room together, you know?

1:25:17 For sure.

1:25:17 Well, it's like he's who you are like I want to see on the show.

1:25:20 Yeah.

1:25:20 Yeah.

1:25:21 I'm trying to think though.

1:25:23 Oh, Jennifer Lawrence was What do you mean?

1:25:24 What do you mean?

1:25:26 And you understand kind of the emotional roller coaster.

1:25:29 Yeah.

1:25:30 Fully get it, man.

1:25:31 What do I do?

1:25:36 This made by a bakery in Vermont of all places.

1:25:39 You know, you guys supposed to be chill.

1:25:45 Hey, what's going on everybody?

1:25:47 For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.

1:25:49 It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.

1:25:52 And today we're joined by Daniel Radcliffe.

1:25:54 He's an Emmy award nominated actor whose work

1:25:55 spans everything from intimate indies to billion-dollar franchises,

1:25:58 the theater and beyond.

1:25:59 If you're in New York,

1:26:00 catch him on his return to Broadway

1:26:01 in Every Brilliant Thing at the Hudson Theater.

1:26:03 And he also stars opposite Tracy Morgan in the NBC

1:26:06 comedy series The Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkens,

1:26:08 which is set to premiere on February 23rd.

1:26:10 Daniel Radcliffe, welcome to the show.

1:26:12 Thank you very much for for having me back.

1:26:14 Yeah.

1:26:15 What's going through your head as you prepare to take

1:26:16 on the gauntlet this time outside of the comfort of your own home?

1:26:20 Yeah.

1:26:20 So, I do have to I I'm coming here today with uh a story and a recommendation,

1:26:24 which is that you need to do like exit interviews

1:26:28 or catchup interviews or something because we did this 5 years ago.

1:26:32 My girlfriend was in the apartment.

1:26:33 I was like, I[ __] nailed that.

1:26:35 Like that was fine.

1:26:36 It was like they were hot, but like I was all right.

1:26:38 Three hours later, I'm sorry we're about to eat,

1:26:40 but like lasers coming out of my ass and and and and my mouth.

1:26:46 Like it was both ends.

1:26:47 It was bad.

1:26:49 And I was I had been so cocky

1:26:51 before that that my girlfriend was entirely unsympathetic.

1:26:54 She was just like, "You did this to yourself." And also,

1:26:56 we're unbearable about how well it had gone.

1:26:58 So, I'm like not giving you that much sympathy.

1:27:01 Uh but I was in real I was in a bad way.

1:27:04 I'm just saying I feel like what I'll do today is I'll send a text, okay,

1:27:09 after we're done.

1:27:09 Like when I next go to the bathroom,

1:27:11 I'll let you know how it goes cuz I

1:27:13 do feel like that's how these all need to end.

1:27:38 Great.

1:27:39 Awesome.

1:27:45 This is very nice.

1:27:52 Yeah, this was very nice.

1:27:53 This is well well done.

1:27:54 Garlic delight.

1:27:55 Yeah, garlic delight.

1:27:56 So, I'd imagine playing the straight man in a two-hander opposite

1:28:00 Tracy Morgan is an actor's dream in a lot of ways.

1:28:03 Was there a day on set or a scene where

1:28:05 you began to really recognize your potential as a comedy duo?

1:28:09 What Tracy can do is unteachable and unlearnable.

1:28:12 He is just one of the most naturally

1:28:13 funny human beings I've ever spent time around.

1:28:16 The original pitch was just like,

1:28:18 "We just think you and Tracy together is a weird, insane combination,

1:28:21 and we like the idea of him being crazy and you trying to corral him."

1:28:26 He is exactly what you expect in that like he will every day you're with Tracy,

1:28:31 he'll say like four or five of the most

1:28:33 insane things you've ever heard a human being say,

1:28:35 but then also he's like incredibly sweet

1:28:38 and like very vulnerable actually and open and yeah,

1:28:40 it was really it was a pleasure.

1:28:46 That was a pleasant introduction.

1:28:51 Okay.

1:28:53 Yes.

1:28:54 A little hotter.

1:28:55 Still pleasant.

1:28:56 That's the format.

1:28:57 Not going for the milk yet.

1:28:59 Yeah.

1:29:00 Do you have any is this really happening

1:29:02 moments reflecting back on your experience doing live theater?

1:29:05 Like what's the most unforgivable thing someone can do

1:29:08 in the audience when they're watching a live stage performance?

1:29:11 the most inexplicable piece of two okay

1:29:14 two inexplicable pieces of audience behavior I once

1:29:16 had one was on Equis two girls who were on the onstage seating there's a scene

1:29:21 going on behind me with two other actors and two girls just start talking

1:29:23 to me as me and just being like Dan Dan look up here and I was

1:29:27 like no I can't like and so they I think they they weren't they weren't

1:29:30 kicked out but they moved them from the onstage

1:29:32 seating to the not onstage seating um

1:29:34 at the intermission um and my other favorite audience member was a guy that I

1:29:38 was doing a play in the UK um called Rosen Crans Gilden Stern from the dead.

1:29:42 He came in to the first act,

1:29:44 had like a foot long sandwich um wrapped in tin foil.

1:29:48 My friend had to make a massive speech

1:29:49 and he was like unwrapping this loud tinfoil sandwich.

1:29:52 Ate the entire sandwich for the rest of the first act

1:29:54 and then went to sleep and he's front front row by the way.

1:29:57 So we see all of this.

1:29:58 Um and he just went to sleep and we were like this[ __] guy like

1:30:01 what is what did he come to the end then came back in for the second

1:30:04 act completely attentive leapt up at the end

1:30:07 led the standing ovation we were like

1:30:09 wait you had a good time you were with it like it was yeah you

1:30:13 know some people are uh you weird and you never know like that's the thing

1:30:17 sometimes the people you see who look

1:30:19 stonefaced and having a horrible time that's just

1:30:21 how people take stuff in sometimes you see

1:30:22 them afterwards and they're like oh my god

1:30:23 we loved it so you're like okay

1:30:25 well maybe White hot mustard sauce from Quentin's.

1:30:34 Hell yeah.

1:30:38 Oh,

1:30:39 you like it?

1:30:39 This is very tasty.

1:30:40 Yeah,

1:30:41 I knew you would.

1:30:44 That's good.

1:30:45 That's like Yeah.

1:30:46 hot English mustard with more of a kick.

1:30:50 Great.

1:30:50 Well done, Quinton.

1:30:53 Is there a moment that you can identify as pivotal

1:30:55 in developing your own real perspective as an actor versus,

1:30:58 you know, being young and feeling like your job

1:31:00 was to hit your marks and say your lines?

1:31:02 Yeah, I still think that's my main job.

1:31:04 By the way, I think most actors really

1:31:05 underrate hitting your mark and saying your lines.

1:31:07 Um, but uh there was a thing that happened

1:31:10 towards the like during the end of Potter when

1:31:13 I was like a a older teenager where you're

1:31:16 just you're in the most self-conscious phase of your life.

1:31:18 and I hated my face and it doing anything.

1:31:23 And so I was like, "Okay, well,

1:31:24 if I just if I just kind of go stoic and don't really move my face,

1:31:28 then it can't do nothing can go wrong." Um,

1:31:31 and I think that came out of like real like self-consciousness and re

1:31:34 and and self-consciousness is the enemy of acting in any shape or form.

1:31:39 When I was doing my first musical on Broadway,

1:31:42 I learned very quickly that actually whatever natural weirdness I

1:31:46 have from my face or from expressiveness or my physicality,

1:31:49 you got to lean into it.

1:31:50 Whatever, you know, any weirdness there is to be lent into rather than avoided.

1:31:54 I feel like that's a big lesson through my life generally.

1:32:02 Got a bit of a tingle happening sort of just permanently now.

1:32:07 Yeah.

1:32:09 That's where I should have stopped.

1:32:12 We both We talked about it.

1:32:13 We'd had the moment.

1:32:13 I didn't need to take that extra bite.

1:32:15 That's a mistake.

1:32:19 Again, I think that's deceptive cuz I can like It's nice

1:32:23 and I could eat more, but I'm not going to.

1:32:25 You're right.

1:32:25 It's deceptive.

1:32:26 You know, it comes in with that peach up front,

1:32:28 so you feel like you're in the clear

1:32:30 and then it starts to sizzle here at the end.

1:32:33 And it's just it's amazing how long something can

1:32:36 carry on going after it's not in your mouth anymore.

1:32:40 Yeah.

1:32:40 So, you've played a character with horns on his head.

1:32:43 You've played a character with guns for hands.

1:32:45 And you've played a literal flatulent corpse.

1:32:49 Yeah.

1:32:48 For an actor, which of those was

1:32:50 most challenging from just a pure comfort perspective?

1:32:52 Oh, from a pure comfort perspective.

1:32:54 That's interesting.

1:32:55 Um, the most challenging one was probably horns on that.

1:32:59 Not because of the actual horns,

1:33:00 but generally the level of prosthetics I had on that movie was a lot.

1:33:05 There was a full body prosthetic by the end.

1:33:07 I hate prosthetics.

1:33:09 That's the only thing that I think could get me

1:33:11 to turn down a job of a script I like.

1:33:13 And Swiss Army man was the hardest one to figure out how to do the character.

1:33:18 It's such a singular kind of performance,

1:33:20 right?

1:33:20 Cuz it's not you're dead, but you're not a zombie.

1:33:22 And so you kind of go like, what what is that?

1:33:23 What does that look like?

1:33:24 And I really didn't know before I turned up for work.

1:33:27 And it was totally putting myself in the hands of the Daniels,

1:33:30 the directors, and like just asking them what they needed of me.

1:33:33 Well, great performance.

1:33:34 Thank you.

1:33:35 I love that movie.

1:33:36 I love

1:33:36 I'm taking your mind off the heat.

1:33:38 Great.

1:33:38 Yeah.

1:33:38 Yeah.

1:33:38 Thank you.

1:33:38 With a compliment.

1:33:39 That's very nice of you.

1:33:41 But the bad news is I'm going back in.

1:33:44 Tropical Amarillo.

1:33:45 The storm clears for just a second.

1:33:48 Feel like the word sweet is doing a lot of work there.

1:33:56 I'm going to not take another bite out.

1:33:57 That's the smart move.

1:33:59 Learning from the mistakes along the way.

1:34:02 Exactly.

1:34:02 Is it true that you spent nearly 42

1:34:04 hours filming underwater for the Gobblet of Fire?

1:34:07 And if so, do you remember your drowning

1:34:09 signal and did you have any close calls?

1:34:11 Um I only once uh didn't there was a time when we were training for it where

1:34:16 I um we were doing like mask clearing exercises

1:34:20 like very basic thing learning to dive and you

1:34:24 you brea you take a deep breath and you

1:34:26 take the regulator out and then you when you

1:34:28 put it back in you got to keep that breath cuz you go to blow the air out.

1:34:32 Um, and I remember I took the thing out once and I was like,

1:34:34 didn't breathe, didn't don't have any breath

1:34:37 to clear this when I get it back on.

1:34:38 And I put it back in.

1:34:40 And uh, yeah, I I I was like, like, go wishes, get me out of here.

1:34:46 That's my drowning signal.

1:34:47 Um, and they uh, and I got up and the stunt coordinator

1:34:49 looked at me and just in the way that only he could,

1:34:51 he's a lovely man called Greg Powell.

1:34:53 He just looked at me went, "Well,

1:34:54 you won't make that mistake again." And I was like,

1:34:56 "No, you're absolutely right." Um, but yeah, so we filmed for uh, 6 weeks.

1:35:01 We were I think we I've heard it quoted

1:35:03 that we averaged five seconds of usable footage per day.

1:35:07 That was one of the things that you go like,

1:35:09 "Yeah, I'll never never do something like this again."

1:35:12 All right, up next, homegrown hell.

1:35:15 Homegrown hell.

1:35:16 I mean, really, you're just you're you're trying to hurt people.

1:35:27 As soon as you swallow it, it lets you know that you've made a terrible mistake.

1:35:32 I am going to have another bite though.

1:35:33 Then I will too.

1:35:34 Okay.

1:35:34 Sorry.

1:35:35 Let's fart.

1:35:37 Okay, great.

1:35:38 I've heard you say that you base roles on originality above all else.

1:35:42 What stands out as like the most bizarre or unique pitch you've said yes to?

1:35:47 One of the worst ideas I've ever heard to during Potter,

1:35:52 somebody came to us, I think,

1:35:53 asked like they wanted to cast all three of us, me, Emma,

1:35:56 and Robert, as in a remake of Wizard of Oz, where Emma was Dorothy.

1:36:01 I can't remember what Ruper was.

1:36:03 And I I just remember that I was going to be the lion, but also he knew karate.

1:36:07 I was like a karate kicking cowardly lion.

1:36:10 And I remember leaving I was like 14 or 15.

1:36:13 And I was like, I don't know a lot about the world, but this is a bad idea.

1:36:17 This should not be made.

1:36:23 I really have a a bone to pick with this one's

1:36:26 name cuz Nana is just like that's a nice thing,

1:36:30 right?

1:36:30 But you know what?

1:36:31 You haven't tried the sauce yet.

1:36:32 That's true.

1:36:34 That is true.

1:36:35 Let's not judge a sauce by its label, as they say.

1:36:40 Oh, no.

1:36:41 Yeah, I do feel enlightened.

1:36:42 You're right.

1:36:46 Oh,[ __]

1:36:49 Yeah.

1:36:48 Second bite.

1:36:49 Huge mistake.

1:36:51 Many such cases.

1:36:53 Mhm.

1:36:55 Oh, yeah.

1:36:56 No.

1:36:56 Oh, yeah.

1:36:57 But you're in it, you know.

1:36:58 Yeah.

1:36:58 Yeah.

1:36:58 Yeah.

1:36:58 You're an actor.

1:36:59 You got to immerse yourself in the experience, you know.

1:37:03 Mhm.

1:37:03 This definitely falls into the category of this is a test

1:37:07 and but it is a test I enjoy when you're like

1:37:10 okay I want to see like I remember this one last

1:37:13 time I was like this is bad and it tastes bad.

1:37:16 Sorry manufacturers

1:37:18 it's all good.

1:37:19 This one has got like at the beginning it's

1:37:22 like this is a nice taste and I am now

1:37:24 at the point where I'm like it's it's really letting

1:37:25 me know that I'm in for a bad time layer.

1:37:27 I'm going for the milk.

1:37:28 This requires the milk.

1:37:30 It's that time.

1:37:32 Mhm.

1:37:32 So, watching the Harry Potter 20th anniversary retrospective a few years ago,

1:37:36 something that really stuck with me was the sheer number of classically trained

1:37:40 veteran actors who appeared in the eight films from Maggie Smith to Gary Oldman,

1:37:45 Al Don, that's just to name a few without overthinking about it.

1:37:49 What stands out as like the best acting you got to witness firsthand?

1:37:53 I mean, the thing that I always love actors

1:37:54 that make it look easy and all of those guys like,

1:37:57 you know, Gary or Michael Gam particularly.

1:37:59 Michael Gamin, mate, you know, obviously rest in peace.

1:38:02 I incredible man.

1:38:04 Um he would you can swear on the show, right?

1:38:08 He[ __] around all the time.

1:38:09 Like he would never stop like until the mo until action had been said.

1:38:13 Sometimes he would be like trying to make me laugh or do

1:38:15 I like actors who don't take it.

1:38:16 Some actors love to like dress the whole process up

1:38:19 in mystique and being an enigma and it's all like Michael

1:38:23 Gambin would you get to set and he'd be like what's

1:38:25 the shot and you'd be like oh it's cameras here Michael.

1:38:29 So you're there in front of it, but you're looking that way.

1:38:30 And he said, "Oh, what is this?

1:38:31 B O H N A R." I was like, "Sorry, what's that?" He said, "Back of head.

1:38:34 No acting required." Like, "Yes, yes it is." Um,

1:38:38 and when we were doing the sixth film,

1:38:41 me and him were like doing the final sequence and we were like in this boat.

1:38:44 I can't remember what the details, but like we're in this little boat going

1:38:47 over to this island surrounded by bad stuff.

1:38:50 And um and uh he'd be like, "What's this?" Uh TTAB.

1:38:55 I was like, "What?

1:38:55 Two[ __] in a boat?" Yes, Michael.

1:38:58 It is.

1:38:58 Um, so like he and I like Alda same thing where

1:39:02 like Alda was like not not[ __] around like Michael Gamble was,

1:39:05 but Alda would be chatting to everybody about

1:39:07 anything and could talk to anyone about anything.

1:39:09 And then when action gets said, she's like locked in and so good.

1:39:12 And yeah, I mean, it's just it's the people who can who can do the work without

1:39:17 making you constantly aware of how hard they're

1:39:19 working are always the people that seemed the coolest.

1:39:27 It's the bomb.

1:39:28 Hello again.

1:39:35 I'm taking that one bite and I'm walking away.

1:39:38 And this one, if you'll recall, is immediate.

1:39:40 You know, like the second you start to swallow is when it tries to

1:39:46 Yeah.

1:39:46 Wow.

1:39:47 You can really track that one where it is in your body.

1:39:50 Like it's about there now.

1:39:52 Yeah.

1:39:52 Yeah.

1:39:52 Yeah.

1:39:52 It is the whole way down your digestive system,

1:39:56 if you recall.

1:39:57 Oh, wow.

1:39:57 Can you break down step by step how to make a fool's gold sandwich?

1:40:03 Ooh, I literally had a speech about this, didn't I?

1:40:06 You take one entire loaf, cut it in half, hollow out both sides,

1:40:13 layer one half with an entire jar of peanut butter

1:40:16 and the other half with an entire jar of jam.

1:40:19 And then you stuff it with a pound of crispy bacon.

1:40:23 It's really delicious.

1:40:24 I mean, Elvis liked them for a reason,

1:40:25 you know, and he didn't he didn't die hungry.

1:40:29 This is really sticking with me.

1:40:30 This is just like Yeah.

1:40:31 Never leave my lips.

1:40:33 Wow.

1:40:33 But I have to say,

1:40:35 you're very eloquent in the answers, you know,

1:40:38 no matter what you're going through, still very eloquent in the answers.

1:40:43 Thank you very much.

1:40:44 I know what you're fighting against.

1:40:45 The walls are closing in over here a little bit.

1:40:49 When you get a second to think about it, a second to breathe, the pain it hits.

1:40:55 Yeah.

1:40:54 But then when the adrenaline spike of action hits, right,

1:40:58 I'm ready.

1:40:59 Yeah, exactly.

1:41:00 Yeah.

1:41:00 Not touching that one again.

1:41:02 Well, why do you do this, guys?

1:41:03 Why do you have a nuclear bomb on your bottle?

1:41:06 I think we just experience.

1:41:08 Yeah.

1:41:08 Yeah.

1:41:08 Yeah.

1:41:08 Absolutely.

1:41:10 Wow.

1:41:10 Just doesn't go anywhere.

1:41:11 It just stays at that level.

1:41:12 And these two are worse.

1:41:19 We're here, aren't we?

1:41:22 So, this one, smoked Serrano Squash Reaper X.

1:41:26 Okay.

1:41:33 Butterfly Bakery of Vermont.

1:41:35 This made by a bakery

1:41:37 in Vermont of all places.

1:41:38 You know,

1:41:38 you guys supposed to be chill.

1:41:41 There's a lot of contradictions in this sauce,

1:41:45 but I will say after the last one,

1:41:47 it's kind of impossible to know which one's which.

1:41:49 At this point, I don't know what this bad effect is from.

1:41:51 This could be latent.

1:41:54 Yeah.

1:41:54 I think I prefer the taste of that one though to the bomb.

1:41:56 The bomb just like the bomb exists to[ __] you up.

1:41:58 There's no Yeah, you've learned our secrets.

1:42:02 So, you seem like someone who's really in love

1:42:04 with the whole process of making a film,

1:42:06 not just the lights, camera, and action of it all.

1:42:08 Is there a role on a film set that maybe flies under

1:42:11 the radar but you think is disproportionately important to the final product?

1:42:15 Like what's the most underrated role?

1:42:17 Nobody knows the nobody knows the assistant director's department exists.

1:42:20 No, nobody like ads we refer to ads

1:42:24 and they are what they run everything and I feel

1:42:26 like there is some like if you see

1:42:28 a movie about movies often the director is shouting action.

1:42:31 Generally speaking on set they don't.

1:42:32 It's the first AD shouts action.

1:42:33 The second AD does the schedule.

1:42:35 The third AD or the second is like running

1:42:38 the set trying to make sure that the actors haven't

1:42:40 wandered off somewhere or like you know it's the AD

1:42:43 department is is the lifeblood of any film set.

1:42:47 Focus puller for anyone who doesn't know

1:42:49 like as the actor's distance to or whatever

1:42:52 your the focus of the scene is changes in in relation to where the camera is,

1:42:56 focus pullers are having to make tiny

1:42:57 adjustments to make sure you stay in focus.

1:42:59 I I think it's probably gotten marginally easier since we're

1:43:03 not dealing with fil with since things are digital now,

1:43:06 but I it's still like a job that and then you

1:43:09 know if you're doing a really hard thing and they're like

1:43:11 oh it was great sorry there was a tiny buzz though

1:43:13 everyone's like oh you ruined like an actor can forget a line

1:43:16 a thousand times everyone's like it's okay you're doing something so

1:43:20 difficult and then and a focus puller will like screw up one

1:43:22 time and everyone's like what are you doing it's yeah so there's

1:43:25 a huge um imbalance in in in those onesh All right, D.

1:43:29 All right, here we go, man.

1:43:31 Oh, wait.

1:43:31 What are you doing?

1:43:33 Do I have to do this?

1:43:34 I mean, if you're doing it, I'm going to do it.

1:43:41 It's one of my pet my pet peeves

1:43:42 about being on set is like actors getting annoyed.

1:43:45 Like, if the boom comes into frame for a second,

1:43:47 like actors being annoyed with technical mistakes from the crew

1:43:50 when no one's allowed to[ __] up as much as actors.

1:43:53 Yeah.

1:43:53 Wait, are they just put a little bit to the side?

1:43:57 Okay.

1:43:57 Yeah.

1:43:58 And then that way you can dip it and just

1:43:59 have a little more control because it can avalanche on you.

1:44:02 All right.

1:44:03 It's a big one as well.

1:44:04 All right.

1:44:05 Good.

1:44:05 All right.

1:44:07 Cheers.

1:44:07 Cheers.

1:44:07 Thank you for this.

1:44:08 What a run.

1:44:10 Mhm.

1:44:13 And with that Oh,[ __]

1:44:18 Yeah.

1:44:19 It's fine.

1:44:19 Then it gets to the back of your mouth.

1:44:20 You're like, "Oh, no." The wings of death are behind us.

1:44:24 And to close things out, you know, last time you were on the show,

1:44:28 and this is hard to believe, but that fateful day more than 5 years ago,

1:44:31 we were in season 13 with the season 13 lineup,

1:44:35 and you close things out by ranking the sauces from the ones

1:44:38 you like the most to the ones you like the least.

1:44:40 Here we are in season 29 with a whole new lineup.

1:44:44 I'm wondering if we can run it back.

1:44:46 Can you rearrange the lineup from your favorite sauces to your least favorite?

1:44:51 Okay, this is definitely favorite.

1:44:55 Um, just just reverse the order entirely.

1:45:02 Um, actually, you know,

1:45:03 I did I have I did the Nirvana

1:45:05 and the these ones in terms of like one that's hot, but Nirvana surprised you.

1:45:10 Nana surprised me.

1:45:11 I actually like ended up enjoying it.

1:45:12 I think more the type of heat than the actual taste,

1:45:16 but it was like a a heat that was both challenging but fun.

1:45:22 Um, and I'm I swipe these two and these two.

1:45:27 There you go.

1:45:29 Sorry, the bomb.

1:45:30 You exist for a reason, but it's not a fun reason.

1:45:33 Once again in last place.

1:45:36 And look at you, Daniel Radcliffe taking on the wings of death,

1:45:40 living to tell the tale.

1:45:42 Now for a second time,

1:45:43 and I am very much looking forward to that text followup in a couple hours.

1:45:48 Now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.

1:45:50 this camera, this camera, or this camera.

1:45:52 Let the people know what you have going on in your life.

1:45:54 So, um, uh, The Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkens comes out on February 23rd.

1:45:59 Yes, I got it right.

1:46:00 I've been asking all day.

1:46:01 Comes out on February 23rd at 8:00 p.m.

1:46:03 on NBC.

1:46:04 Two episodes back toback, available the next day on Peacock.

1:46:07 And also, I'm doing a play at the Hudson Theater called Every Brilliant Thing.

1:46:12 Hopefully, it will be like unlike any other play you've kind of seen.

1:46:15 GO SEE IT.

1:46:19 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DUDE.

1:46:25 Thank you, mate.

1:46:26 That was really fun.

1:46:27 You can kind if you're asking me the questions that I always get asked,

1:46:30 then I can kind of answer them on autopilot,

1:46:33 whereas like having to actually stop and think while you're doing that

1:46:36 makes for something more interesting.

1:46:39 Lasers coming out of my ass.

1:46:43 You should have asked me all the cute questions up top.

1:46:46 You know what I'm saying?

1:46:47 You start acting the deep ones as we get deeper into these wings is insane.

1:46:55 Hey, what's going on everybody for First Week East.

1:46:56 I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.

1:46:58 It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.

1:47:01 And today we're joined by Tiana Taylor.

1:47:02 She's fresh off a Golden Globe Award win and Oscar nomination for best

1:47:05 supporting actress for her performance in the film One Battle After Another.