Jason Lee Says What Others Won’t: Faith, Fame & Breaking The Internet | BET Talks

0:00 I can say something right now,

0:01 even with all these eyeballs over here watching me,

0:03 that will burn the disintegration of the internet.

0:06 I went from foster care to Forbes.

0:08 I came from a place where I literally stood watching my brother die.

0:11 You can say whatever you want about me, and they've said it all.

0:13 And I literally just flipped through it all and laughed

0:15 BET is not ready for the real answer to this question.

0:19 [THEME MUSIC] Welcome back to the latest episode of BET Talks.

0:30 I'm your host, Miabelle,

0:31 and today's guest is one of the most talked about voices in entertainment media.

0:36 He's also the founder of Hollywood Unlocked, the Stockton Vice Mayor,

0:40 and most importantly, the host of The Jason Lee Show, newly acquired by BET.

0:45 And here to give us his bold perspective

0:47 and very introspective voice, is the Jason Lee.

0:52 Welcome.

0:53 [APPLAUSE]- Nice intro.

0:54 Uh-huh.

0:54 I need that intro to be downloaded on iTunes and played everywhere I go.

0:58 Yes, or every Wednesday on BET at 8:01 AM, OK?

1:02 Very early.

1:03 On the dot.

1:04 That's how it goes.

1:05 Yep.

1:05 All right.

1:06 Now we're going to kick this off with a game.

1:07 It's called This or That.

1:08 All you do is pick and tell us why.

1:10 OK.

1:11 Very simple.

1:11 Now, headlines or legacy, what matters to you the most right now?

1:14 JASON LEE: Legacy.

1:15 I mean, that's why I ran for office.

1:17 Getting elected wasn't in the bingo card for me, and it wasn't a career change.

1:21 It was just something that I felt was important at the time,

1:24 where I had made a lot of money,

1:25 had a platform, had a lot of relationships, and also saw the need.

1:28 And then having gone sober in therapy and now turning 49,

1:33 I'm like, I'm in my adulthood for real.

1:35 Like, I gotta do more than just buy nice clothes, jewelry,

1:38 trips and all that, and that's all great, but I got to do more.

1:41 And so yeah, I think legacy right now.

1:42 I love that.

1:43 Now, what excites you more,

1:45 shaping the culture through media or shaping change through the government?

1:50 JASON LEE: Man, that's a great question.

1:52 I like shaping the culture through media, because I make a lot of money.

1:55 MIABELLE: Mm-hmm!

1:56 JASON LEE: With a lot more, you can do more.

1:58 So I'm not going to sit here and act like I

2:00 don't believe in making a lot of money and shaping culture,

2:02 especially in a time where I feel like culture is under attack.

2:04 But also at the same time, when you look at our government and you look at how

2:08 reckless it has become all the way up to the top,

2:10 you forget that local politics matter, too.

2:13 So Stockton, California is a city that made me.

2:15 It's a city that I love.

2:16 My whole family is in that community.

2:18 And so to be able to return home full time

2:20 and to jump in the political arena and start to bring

2:23 more balance to a city that I think has been

2:26 forgotten and disinvested in for a long time, has been amazing.

2:29 So I have to say, both.

2:30 It can't be this or on that one.

2:31 I think it's all of that.

2:32 Yeah, and you're doing all of it, which is great.

2:35 So, congratulations to you—- Thank you.

2:36 --sincerely.

2:37 Thank you.

2:37 Yes.

2:38 Now, when it comes to your career, respect or relevance, what are you choosing?

2:42 MIABELLE: Respect.

2:43 You know, because what is relevance?

2:45 Like, there's a lot of people right now that feel like they're relevant.

2:47 They ain't relevant.

2:48 You ever see somebody that got like a ugly kid?

2:50 You like, that kid is cute to somebody.

2:52 Now, I think all kids should be deemed as cute.

2:53 Yes And I know over here at BET, y'all don't like talking about kids.

2:57 I understand.

2:58 Some people kids is ugly.

2:59 But you can look at that ugly kid and say, somebody loves you.

3:01 We live in a world right now where

3:03 people are so afraid of losing people's respect,

3:06 that they forget to respect their own.

3:09 Their own development, their own process, their own evolution.

3:11 I'm Jason Lee, who many times has burned the internet down.

3:15 If you send me a legal notice to not do what my job is to do,

3:21 then I will send you a retort to say that because

3:24 I didn't want to come spend the night with you, punk, stop playing with me.

3:29 I think it's diabolical to send me a ceasefire and desist

3:32 when you try to get me to sleep at your house.

3:35 Now that's the truth.

3:36 The truth is, you invited me to that dusty little ranch to spend the night,

3:41 and I didn't want to spend the night.

3:42 Why would I spend the night at your house when I got my own houses?

3:45 I love my pillows.

3:46 My thread count is strategically placed in a way

3:49 to make me sleep through the night.

3:50 Why do I need to go to your house?

3:51 I'm a grown ass man.

3:52 If a grown ass woman say, hey, girl, come over and spend the night of my house,

3:55 what am I spending a night at your house for?

3:56 When you got your own.

3:57 You got your own house.

3:58 So, yeah, I just didn't understand why I was being invited to somebody's house.

4:01 Well, I know why I was being invited.

4:02 You know why I was invited.

4:03 Why you send me a cease and desist when you got my number?

4:05 You pick up the phone.

4:06 Say you went to your homegirl's house, you took your Fenty bag,

4:08 and then all of a sudden, your homegirl is using your Fenty.

4:10 You gonna send her a cease and desist because she's using your Fenty,

4:12 or you going to say give me my—- Girl.

4:14 Yeah.

4:15 I don't know.

4:16 It was, got a little weird.

4:17 The same way that you— And I was just sitting on my couch.

4:20 I just did a little video saying, come on out.

4:22 You saw I didn't want to do the video.

4:23 I was like, this.

4:24 But I did the video and I did it for two reasons.

4:27 One, I wanted them to know, stop playing with me.

4:29 But the other thing is, I kind of wanted to know that I still had it.

4:31 Like, I still got it, you know.

4:34 And I still got it.

4:35 Yeah.

4:35 And it was necessary, and it was done.

4:37 The same way that— With precision.

4:39 --you can burn the internet down, can anybody say anything about you?

4:42 Absolutely.

4:43 Joe Budden literally said, he talked about my dead mother,

4:46 my dead brother, my dead father.

4:47 I haven't even responded.

4:48 Why?

4:48 For what?

4:49 For what?

4:50 I worked through all my trauma.

4:51 That didn't— I didn't shed a tear over that.

4:52 They've been dead.

4:53 I'm not an emotionless tree,

4:55 but I'm not triggered by other people's attack on my trauma.

4:58 Right, right, right.

4:59 I've done the work, right?

5:00 So, yeah, yeah, they can say whatever they want, and look,

5:03 sometimes I don't respond, because I haven't responded to Joe Budden.

5:07 That one particular.

5:08 More so secrets, because that's your trauma

5:10 that people are using to get under your skin.

5:12 That clearly doesn't work.

5:14 Yeah.

5:14 But the same way that you can burn the internet down by telling

5:16 us all of the things that you know on the other side of Hollywood,

5:20 is there any secret that somebody can rebuttal you with?

5:23 No.

5:24 I've had people, listen, BET is not ready for the real answer to this question.

5:28 But there was a time where one person tried to come

5:31 out and share a, what they thought was a secret.

5:34 It wasn't a secret, but they thought they would

5:37 control me by telling me they would put something out.

5:40 So I went live and I put it out in graphic detail.

5:42 Mm-hmm.

5:43 Real graphic.

5:44 It was a lesson to everybody that just live in your truth.

5:47 Like, if you live in your truth,

5:48 then you're free from people trying to extort you,

5:50 control you, manipulate you, attack you, all that.

5:52 People still going to try it, but we live in a cloud-based,

5:55 click-based world where everybody is trying to get this thing.

5:58 They want to feel it until they feel it.

6:00 I'm OK with whatever anybody wants to do.

6:02 Just be prepared.

6:03 MIABELLE: Right.

6:04 Try your luck.

6:05 JASON LEE: Yeah.

6:06 As much as I have evolved, people want me,

6:08 as much as they act like they don't, they want me to be the next Wendy Williams.

6:12 They want me to be the tea spiller.

6:14 We haven't really exposed a lot of people's tea.

6:17 We talk about the tea they put out there.

6:19 My tea that you see me put out there, if I put it out there,

6:21 I know I did it, I said it, go ahead, you can digest it however you want.

6:24 People, as much as they say they don't want me to be that guy, I think they do.

6:28 I think so.

6:29 Yeah, I think so, too.

6:30 Well, why?

6:31 Because it's entertaining to them, I believe.

6:34 Yeah, it might be.

6:35 And look, and I know— that's why I said what I love about The Jason Lee Show,

6:38 it's fun, it's a roller coaster of rides.

6:40 If you watch the K.

6:41 Michelle Show, I know it's the clips that go viral.

6:43 People go, oh, my God, that was spicy.

6:45 But the clips are just meant for you to go back and watch the whole interview.

6:48 BET, I love you.

6:49 Jason Lee.

6:49 I love you more.

6:50 Let's get into the tea.

6:52 Let's get into the truth.

6:55 No sugarcoating.

6:57 I'm going to tell you how it is.

6:58 I'm from Memphis, baby.

6:59 JASON LEE: When you go watch the whole interview, it's so well-balanced.

7:02 She talks about country music, her love for it,

7:05 her love from Beyonce, Black women showing each other flowers.

7:08 It's so much more than just the clips.

7:09 Look, it's all letters.

7:10 What are you doing with a Bible?

7:12 I carry a Bible everywhere with me.

7:14 Even when you're reading people?

7:15 Yes.

7:16 It's always with me.

7:17 Every— everything I ask God for, I write it down and I put it in the Bible.

7:24 She was very vulnerable and just broke down in tears.

7:27 And it wasn't because she was attacked.

7:29 It was because she felt the passion and she felt safe to share that passion.

7:32 So, yeah, we're— we're all of that.

7:34 Now, I want you to really think about your past

7:38 and all that you've been able to build by being independent,

7:41 by being disruptive, by being unfiltered,

7:44 and now bringing all of that to BET from Zeus.

7:48 JASON LEE: You know, from Zeus, from Revolt,

7:50 from Hollywood Unlocked, the evolution of all the platforms,

7:52 I'm proud to say I've been involved with some

7:55 of the best Black-led platforms in the business.

7:58 And BET is a legacy brand that has been in our homes for years.

8:02 I remember years ago when Shelby Stone,

8:04 Queen Latifah and myself went and met with Robi Reed and Loretha and folks

8:09 at BET years ago when I thought I knew what I wanted to do.

8:13 And Latifah thought, oh, let's give Jason Lee a talk show.

8:15 I wanted to talk, because I love talk, but I wasn't ready, you know.

8:19 And the network knew I wasn't ready.

8:20 And even though I was confident I could do it, I didn't know what I was doing.

8:23 But people believed in me then.

8:25 And so to be able to come back full circle, be with BET,

8:28 especially a launch of a creator studio where I've been such an advocate

8:31 for creators and wanting to eradicate

8:33 the gatekeeping that sometimes happens in our culture,

8:36 because we oftentimes block opportunities for other people,

8:38 or try to fit people in certain boxes that we feel comfortable in.

8:41 And people like me that have disrupted the space

8:43 and have created a multi-million dollar company from scratch.

8:46 It was really hard.

8:48 And I watched Ebro.

8:49 He was pretty much crying about no support

8:51 that he's not getting now that he's independent,

8:53 but he's been one of the gatekeepers, too.

8:55 So I look at him like, yo,

8:56 you're literally complaining about the thing that you've been a part of.

8:59 But it's great to see for us in independent media that people who

9:02 are now coming into our world can see that it is a grind.

9:05 It is a hard grind when you have four or five,

9:09 six people on the team running this brand that behind

9:11 the veil is really short and nimble in terms of the team,

9:14 but then the output is so massive and disruptive that you're like,

9:17 yo, they must have 100 people over there.

9:18 Nah.

9:19 So I love that the Ebros of the world,

9:21 now that the industry and how digital media

9:24 is shaping and reshaping and evolving in some ways,

9:27 is learning the grind that it's taken to get to where I am right now.

9:30 You can say whatever you want about me.

9:32 They've said it all, and I literally just flip through it all and laugh,

9:35 because the only thing I focus on is

9:37 the direct deposits that go into my account,

9:39 and the influence that my accounts create

9:41 in the world that we live in every day.

9:43 OK!

9:44 And as much as I would love to elaborate on the Ebro conversation,

9:48 because that is a former coworker of mine,

9:52 and I am now on the Hot 97 morning show with Mero.

9:54 JASON LEE: Is Peter Rosenberg over there, too?

9:56 He's with Ebro, Laura and Rosenberg, who I love, by the way,

9:59 and don't think is a gatekeeper,

10:01 but I do hear the other— Peter Rosenberg— --perspectives.

10:05 --Peter Rosenberg is cancerous to the culture.

10:06 And I'm going to tell you—- OK, so— --you don't want to go there.

10:09 I, no, no, no, no, we're not going to go there.

10:10 OK.

10:11 Because I do know— JASON LEE: Tell me what—- --where it can do.

10:12 --direction y'all want this.

10:13 You can't go.

10:14 I know it can go.

10:15 He talked about his dog.

10:15 Go ahead.

10:16 Uh-huh.

10:17 I know he can go there.

10:18 We're not going to.

10:19 But of course, we respect the— the discourse,

10:22 because like you said, it does bring out different opinions.

10:26 I love this yellow on you, by the way.

10:28 Thank you so much.

10:29 The monochromatic over here.

10:31 She's doing a great job.

10:32 This woman over here is keeping this conversation on the rails.

10:35 Because baby, we always pride ourselves at Hollywood Unlocked saying

10:38 that we interview and support the uttermost to the guttermost.

10:41 There has to be places for the Chriseans and the Cardi Bs.

10:44 The culture is not just a monolith.

10:47 That's what I love about this new partnership,

10:49 because I think BET is taking a risk bringing in a brand,

10:53 a person who has known to be loud and disruptive,

10:56 but also loves the culture just as much as BET and those in this building do.

11:00 So I think this is a great opportunity for us to create an explosive,

11:04 dynamic experience for the culture- Absolutely.

11:06 And I think that is what people love about you,

11:08 because you're going to say it regardless.

11:10 I can say something right now,

11:11 even with all these eyeballs over here watching me,

11:14 that will burn the disintegration of the internet.

11:16 But I also learned that it's not always necessary.

11:19 I learned now how to use my voice,

11:20 when to use that, when to create a three-alarm fire.

11:23 And I choose now to do it on the things that matter to the culture,

11:26 to the existence of the culture, to the evolution of the culture.

11:29 A lot of people have stopped me in the street and said,

11:31 oh my God, you changed, you changed.

11:32 No, I haven't changed.

11:33 I've evolved.

11:34 And evolution and the respect for that evolution is important.

11:36 When it comes to your version of storytelling,

11:39 what do you think people misunderstand the most?

11:41 Because while it is racy and unfiltered,

11:44 it still is vulnerable, and you are getting exclusives.

11:47 Yeah.

11:48 I didn't know K.

11:50 Michelle Dated R.

11:51 Kelly and was really loving him.

11:52 It was intimate.

11:53 Right.

11:54 It was, they was getting it on.

11:55 I feel like with a K.

11:56 Michelle, I wasn't even planning to bring up R.

11:58 Kelly.

11:59 She brought up R.

11:59 Kelly.

12:00 Were you and R.

12:01 Kelly ever intimate?

12:01 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

12:02 I loved him.

12:03 Really?

12:04 Have you ever said that in your life?

12:05 I loved Robert Kelly.

12:07 People, as much as they may be nervous about doing the show,

12:11 they do come in, get disarmed, and feel very safe with me,

12:14 because I'm literally just a fan with a platform,

12:16 trying to ask and understand the questions

12:18 that fans are sitting at home watching.

12:20 I'm really happy, because you are the only person

12:24 in the world that knows we had that conversation, one.

12:27 Yeah.

12:29 And two, I complied with that conversation.

12:31 You did.

12:32 That's why when I'm sitting there interviewing somebody and I know that they

12:36 may feel uncomfortable talking about something or they don't want to go there,

12:38 I know I wouldn't be doing my job for the people watching,

12:41 for the culture, if I don't ask the question.

12:43 For example, I interviewed Candace Owens.

12:46 I knew she was anti-trans, homophobic.

12:48 She's all the things that all of us feel about her, but I

12:51 wanted to see if she would have the courage to say it to me.

12:53 And she did.

12:54 And so when she was talking about the trans community,

12:56 at that moment, I felt two things.

12:58 I felt like one, she's going to win this debate,

13:01 because she came into it really flaming

13:03 the hate that people have for the community.

13:05 But I'm sitting here as a gay man defending the community,

13:08 knowing the other side of it, right?

13:09 So it was a dynamic that I knew that we needed to have on— on camera,

13:13 but I also knew how it was going to hit

13:16 the internet and what was— what it was going to create.

13:19 So, yeah, I do think that we create necessary conversations, going back to K.

13:23 Michelle where she shared her relationship with R.

13:25 Kelly, but she also posed a question that's still not been answered.

13:28 And she said, what about all the mothers that was in the kitchen cooking?

13:30 They ain't in jail with R.

13:32 Kelly.

13:32 And again, that's a conversation we had on The Jason Lee Show here on BET.

13:35 And now we'll let the public have online.

13:37 Absolutely.

13:38 Now moving on, what would you say you're the most proud of with your legacy,

13:42 especially when it comes to Hollywood Unlocked?

13:44 I did it all on my own terms.

13:46 I said on Facebook, I went from foster care to Forbes.

13:48 I came from a place where I literally stood watching my brother die,

13:51 and watched my mother struggle on drugs

13:53 and living on public assistance and homeless,

13:56 to having everything I want, traveling all around the world,

14:00 doing what I want, saying what I want, believing what I want.

14:03 I don't feel confined to any rule.

14:06 And I know that in this world today is a very uncomfortable experience,

14:10 because most people don't have that freedom.

14:12 I think in the end, when people look at my story,

14:14 when they look back on it, they're going to be like,

14:16 yo, he was loud, he was disruptive, he was controversial,

14:19 but he did it all on his own terms.

14:21 And that, to me, especially the fact that I own it all, is freedom.

14:24 Now I'm getting into production,

14:26 I'm getting into development and going into the sixth season of my award show,

14:29 I mean, I think I'm doing pretty good.

14:30 When you say impact, what does that mean for you culturally?

14:33 When we created the Impact Awards,

14:35 it was about acknowledging people who have used their platforms

14:38 or their fame to create impact in our culture.

14:41 So we weren't initially going out to find the biggest names.

14:44 We just happened to get the Mariah Careys and the Whoopi Goldbergs and all that.

14:47 But I looked at BET Honors as an example of highlighting Black excellence.

14:53 When we decided to honor Jonathan Majors and the world was like,

14:55 why would you do that, I don't believe in eternal condemnation.

14:59 And I believe that all of us are entitled to redemption.

15:02 And I got that lesson from my mom.

15:04 My mother, when she was dying, literally said, I did the best that I can.

15:07 I hope you forgive me.

15:08 And I thought, this lady is literally about to die in a couple of days.

15:11 The only thing that she's asking for is

15:12 that I believe she's worthy of being redeemable.

15:15 And I just don't think that we should get

15:17 to a place where we're literally on our way out,

15:19 to believe that we're worth redemption.

15:21 And when I tell him I want to honor him,

15:23 he just started crying and he started just sharing,

15:25 like how he had been in a place

15:27 of like thinking of hurting himself and just different things,

15:29 and I'm just like, yo.

15:30 And he couldn't believe that we actually wanted to honor him.

15:32 And I love the fact that Megan and Jonathan both trusted me to do that.

15:36 They didn't ask me a lot of things, like, what are you going to say.

15:38 They just said, OK, we trust you, and we did it, and it was great.

15:41 What are the sides of you that we're not seeing, the soft sides?

15:44 Because what I'm getting is very assertive about that work,

15:47 about that business, about your word.

15:50 But what about the softer version and the vulnerable side of you?

15:55 I don't show that as much,

15:56 and— and I think it's been because I really got into Hollywood a lot,

16:00 because I thought the idea was I would lift the veil of Hollywood and I

16:02 would show a lot of my friends that I had and people that I knew,

16:05 and I would be the platform

16:06 that celebrities would gravitate to share their side.

16:09 And at first, that didn't happen,

16:11 so I bullied my way in by kicking every door down and taking no prisoners.

16:14 I was just like, pow, pow.

16:16 And as I evolve in it and understand the power of my platform,

16:19 it's not lost on me.

16:20 The impact that it can have on people when we do what we do.

16:22 MIABELLE: Right.

16:23 So I have become more understanding of the power

16:27 of the platform and more responsible to it.

16:29 And, I've made some mistakes, and where I've gone too far,

16:32 I've owned it, because I'm not an emotionless tree, as some people may think.

16:36 The softer side, OK.

16:37 So I listen to gospel music literally almost every day.

16:40 I'm really into Raye right now.

16:41 Do you know who Raye is?

16:42 No.

16:43 Got to get it.

16:43 Is it R-A—- Y-E- Y-E?

16:45 Yes, I do.

16:46 I'm totally into her.

16:47 Mm-hmm.

16:48 But yeah, I mean my softer side, let's see, what they may not know.

16:51 Every gospel singer you can probably think about, major gospel singer,

16:54 like we talk all the time, I'm friends with them or I love them.

16:57 I incorporate them into everything I do.

16:58 My relationship with God.

16:59 I wrote a book called God Must Have Forgotten About Me,

17:02 and some people thought it was a diss to God,

17:04 but it really was like a book around how I found my faith in my foster

17:08 home with the Easter family at a time

17:10 where I thought God had forgotten about me.

17:11 And I think a lot of people can relate to that.

17:13 When you look at the world and when you

17:14 look at the challenges that we all face every day,

17:16 where you're like, damn, God, like I get a break?

17:18 But what I learned when I learned faith

17:20 and the difference of faith instead of fear, is that I live a faith-based life.

17:24 I live a very optimistic life.

17:26 I believe that things will get better and things can be better.

17:29 And I attribute everything I have to God.

17:32 Even in my brother losing his life,

17:34 I think about if my brother had not died the night

17:37 of I going away party to move to Hollywood at 19,

17:40 if he had not died, what would my life have

17:42 been if I would have went to LA with no, just, just no real understanding of me?

17:48 That death and that pain put me through a whole

17:51 experience that allowed me to feel the depth of pain,

17:54 the depth of survival, the depth of optimism, the depth of faith,

17:59 and the depth of understanding God and how he works.

18:02 People say, well, would you want to change that?

18:04 That's a hard question.

18:06 Would I want to change my brother being dead?

18:08 I want my brother here, but without his death,

18:10 I would not have been and become the person that I am right now.

18:13 So I think there's a lot of sides to me.

18:16 I don't take responsibility for the world only wanting to know clips of people.

18:21 We don't— we live in a clip-based world where people just

18:23 want to see that viral moment is the sum of that individual.

18:26 And then they go, wait, he's the vice mayor?

18:27 Wait, he just got a $13 million grant for behavioral center for kids?

18:31 Nobody cares about all of that.

18:32 Right.

18:33 You can put it all out there, and I do,

18:34 and people will pick from it what they want.

18:36 But the thing I hope the most,

18:37 is that they all go watch The Jason Lee Show on BET.

18:40 This is escapism for people who just want to laugh for a couple hours.

18:43 Yeah, and it's so necessary,

18:44 especially in the climate that we're living in today.

18:47 Now, before you get up out of here,

18:48 I do want you to speak on your legacy and who you're leaving it for.

18:52 Is that a trick to ask me if me and Tiffany Haddish are having a baby?

18:55 No.

18:55 No.

18:56 I didn't believe that, no way.

18:58 No.

18:58 But who are you doing it for?

18:59 Because you mentioned so much loss in your life.

19:02 Your brother, your parents, you know,

19:04 you're living for yourself and God at that moment.

19:06 But for you, who is it?

19:07 I, right now, am living for me.

19:08 Yeah.

19:09 Who am I leaving the legacy to?

19:11 Contractually, my paperwork says who gets it when I'm gone.

19:15 I don't have like a kid to— MIABELLE: Right.

19:17 --to to pass it on to.

19:19 My dogs, I'm not going to pass it to Gucci and Chanel.

19:21 Yes, my dog's names are Gucci and Chanel.

19:23 You judge me in the car.

19:24 I'm really like living in the moment and creating the most impact I can.

19:28 I hope to be retired in a few years.

19:30 People don't believe I can walk away from all of it.

19:32 I want to be done done.

19:33 If I have the exit the way that I want.

19:36 If not, maybe consulting or producing or whatever,

19:38 but there's no individual that I'm doing this for other than myself right now.

19:43 I love that.

19:43 Yeah.

19:44 And we will be OK with all that you give us on The Jason Lee Show on BET.

19:49 Thank you so much for being here.

19:51 This was a great conversation.

19:53 Don't edit it out now.

19:54 Leave it for the people.

19:56 Mm-hmm.

19:56 Y'all heard that.

19:57 That ain't got nothing to do with me.

19:59 BET Talk, y'all.

20:00 Thank you.

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