2026 Rookie Sleepers We LOVE! Advanced Stats + Film Breakdown | 2026 Fantasy Football Advice

0:05 [music]

0:07 It is fantasy football today meets beyond the box score.

0:11 What do they call this?

0:12 Crossover episode?

0:14 Crossover episode.

0:15 Yeah.

0:16 Remember do you guys remember Flintstones meet the Jetsons?

0:19 No, we don't remember Flintstones meet the Jetsons.

0:21 We're not in your age bracket.

0:23 I thought you could have referenced BoJack Horseman,

0:25 which is kind of old, and then you gave us Flintstones.

0:29 [laughter] You've seen Flintstones Flintstones meet the Jetsons, right?

0:31 Yeah, I was four.

0:33 I think it's Jetsons meet the Flintstones or something like that.

0:35 Um it was great, wonderful episode.

0:37 Anyway, welcome to the show.

0:39 You hear Jacob and Dan.

0:40 Jamie is here.

0:41 I'm Adam, and we're going to talk about some rookie gems.

0:44 We're going to also get Dan and Jacob's opinion on the first round

0:47 guys and how they fit schematically with the teams that they went to.

0:50 We'll talk about the Deshaun Watson news, but you know,

0:53 Jacob and Dan give great tips every year on players who

0:57 might not be on your fantasy radar right now, but should be.

1:00 And are all of them going to pan out?

1:01 No, but if one or two do, that's a huge advantage to you.

1:04 So, I'll even maybe you would be even more than that.

1:07 We're going to identify some players that we

1:08 like that are in situations that are maybe just one injury away from being

1:12 really good and really beneficial for fantasy managers.

1:15 Uh your emails, we have some of those as well.

1:17 Our email address is fantasyfootball@cbsi.com.

1:21 I haven't talked Oh, Dan, what's up?

1:22 I haven't talked to you in a while.

1:24 I haven't been on in a while.

1:25 I haven't talked to you and Jamie.

1:26 Feels like some part of my life is missing.

1:28 Um so, it's good to be back.

1:30 It's been a lot to talk about.

1:31 We'll save it for another mailbag.

1:32 This show is focused on the football.

1:35 [snorts] He's been He's been just raving about his tennis game, Dan.

1:38 Like None of that has happened,

1:39 but I am finally playing with my brother this Friday.

1:41 He's been really getting into He wants Aizer by the way.

1:44 He wants an Aizer match.

1:44 He wants a singles match versus you and he

1:46 wants a doubles match versus the Aizer brothers.

1:48 That still needs to happen well before our match.

1:50 We need to get some practice matches in.

1:52 Okay, no problem.

1:53 I'm two and 0 this week by the way, including a triumphant win last night.

1:56 So, anyway, um have a comment in the chat uh

2:00 from a guy who also said I was baking eggs,

2:03 which is why we were late to the show today.

2:05 I've [laughter] never baked a But then says, "The entire class is sleepers, lol.

2:10 It really is garbage draft class after like six picks." Dan,

2:13 do you agree with that?

2:16 You know, I'm trying to bring optimism to the show.

2:18 I'm trying to be a new me, new year uh motto,

2:20 but I don't feel very good about this class at all.

2:23 And there's no real I I don't want to say it

2:26 as if like there's actionable advice cuz everyone's like, "All right, well,

2:28 you tell me you don't feel good about the class,

2:29 then what do I do?" Nobody wants to trade for these picks in dynasty.

2:32 The only thing I would say is we're going to hype players,

2:34 just keep it into some at least in my mind,

2:37 keep it in some version of like a context of like let's not go so crazy.

2:40 Let's not trade future assets for these guys.

2:44 Okay.

2:44 That's how I feel, at least.

2:46 Jacob?

2:46 Yeah, I mean, we're today like we're mostly focused

2:48 I think on what could happen this year, right?

2:50 Like you're bringing up future assets,

2:51 but we're talking about like the 2026 season.

2:53 Sure.

2:53 And yeah, in reality most of these guys

2:55 are are behind somebody on their depth chart.

2:58 Um so, I think it's most important to find the players

2:59 that we think are good and the players that are on good teams.

3:02 Uh and I do think we have plenty of those this year.

3:04 I know it's a it's a weird class overall,

3:07 um but I do think that there are a few diamonds in the rough here potentially.

3:11 Um and I think this practice has been good in the past like to kind of get ahead

3:14 of some of these players who end up getting steamed

3:16 up the draft board by the time August rolls around.

3:18 So, I'm excited to get to it.

3:20 And then let's talk about the debate we were having before the show started.

3:22 I actually think in in addition to just me kind

3:25 of making fun of all three of you for being wrong,

3:28 uh I do think it's a fun fantasy debate is if you're in a dynasty league,

3:32 when to do your rookie drafts cuz I think

3:34 all three of you are already doing rookie drafts.

3:37 Right.

3:38 And I do not want to do our rookie

3:40 draft in the Big Burger Dynasty League until honestly August.

3:45 Uh it is you know, I just don't want to and I'll tell you why.

3:48 I mean, I have a little I'm scarred by drafting R.J.

3:51 Harvey cuz people you know, "Yeah, Adam, I started the draft.

3:53 I started." And then I draft R.J.

3:55 Harvey and then they sign J.K.

3:56 Dobbins.

3:57 And it really bothered me.

3:58 It really bothered me.

3:59 It's like almost a waste of a first round pick.

4:01 And I just don't understand why to do it now.

4:04 Is this this to me Jamie, I'll let you have the first word.

4:07 This to me would be like, "Oh,

4:08 the the college football championship game just ended.

4:11 Let's have the NFL draft in two days." It's so silly.

4:14 [clears throat] Like give people time to do their research,

4:17 get training camp reports,

4:18 that's like the equivalent of the combine, and then do your rookie draft.

4:22 Why would I do it now, Jamie?

4:23 It's a terrible idea and I hate you for it.

4:27 Um Yeah, I was trying to think of all the things you hate me for.

4:30 Um I I think just it's you know, you hate fun.

4:35 So, Yeah, he does.

4:36 He really does.

4:37 I I think, you know, for most people I I I would assume and you know,

4:42 what happens You know what happens when you assume,

4:43 but I I would assume that most people who

4:45 play in dynasty leagues also dabble in redraft leagues still.

4:49 And so, you have multiple drafts usually happening in August

4:52 or at least one that you probably care about a lot.

4:55 And so, why would you not want to start the draft

4:57 process as much as as soon as you possibly can?

5:01 Because then it allows you to still make trades on the picks that you

5:04 have made at this point leading up to lots of things that may change.

5:09 So, for example, like you got in your mind burned by R.J.

5:13 Harvey with the J.K.

5:14 Dobbins signing.

5:15 I would imagine there are probably still people in your league,

5:19 which we are part of, that would have

5:21 been very still still very interested in R.J.

5:24 Harvey despite the Dobbins addition.

5:26 And you may have been able to capitalize

5:27 on that and either get a player that you wanted that may

5:29 have gotten a little bit later or traded for future

5:32 assets if you were so pissed off that R.J.

5:34 Harvey was now going to stink because of the addition of J.K.

5:37 Dobbins.

5:37 It's also not taking into account why we play dynasty.

5:40 It's not just for the upcoming season, it's for the future.

5:43 And so, you know, at the time when they signed Dobbins,

5:46 I didn't really look at it as this is their duo now for many years to come.

5:50 I thought it was this was a stopgap that R.J.

5:52 Harvey still going to have a good career.

5:53 I'm still hopeful for that.

5:54 But obviously what we saw in his rookie

5:56 campaign did not necessarily lead to that.

5:58 Not to get into R.J.

5:58 Harvey discussion.

5:59 But again, I think that part of it is like this is

6:01 the time to have fun because the NFL draft has happened.

6:03 You're excited about your dynasty league.

6:05 You're excited about the rookies.

6:06 You want to do a draft.

6:07 You should be doing a draft.

6:09 Yeah, I just don't want to do it.

6:11 But all right.

6:12 have fun.

6:12 Enjoy yourself.

6:13 Like what are you so worried about?

6:14 You're always so scared and nervous about things that aren't going to hurt you.

6:17 Like Look, if your decision to draft R.J.

6:20 Harvey was impacted that much by a one-year J.K.

6:23 Dobbins signing last year,

6:25 then you didn't have the right process for drafting Harvey in the first place.

6:28 Okay, look, I I I was just using it as an example.

6:30 I wasn't I'll give you I'll give you I'll give you two scenarios right now.

6:33 So, um I'm in one draft with other analysts in in our industry.

6:38 And I had the seventh pick,

6:40 so seventh pick all throughout it's a non-snake draft.

6:42 Um in the second round I took Stribling.

6:44 He was the best player on the board for me.

6:46 If there is a 49ers injury, that never happens,

6:49 if there's a wide receiver injury, um I love the situation.

6:54 Stribling may be a first round pick if there's an injury that occurs.

6:57 Uh conversely, I traded my third round pick.

7:00 Somebody offered me uh it's a superflex league.

7:04 My my quarterbacks are pretty terrible.

7:05 Somebody offered me Jacoby Brissett for my third round pick.

7:08 In this year's draft I felt like it was

7:10 worth the risk to take a chance on Jacoby Brissett.

7:13 That pick ended up being Clayborn from the Vikings, their their running back.

7:16 Uh if there is an Aaron Jones injury or a Jordan Mason injury or both,

7:21 not that Aaron Jones ever gets hurt, unfortunately for him,

7:24 um Clayborn could be somebody that's very relevant and I just

7:27 made a terrible mistake by not drafting him in the third round.

7:30 So, there's there's there's ways that this works

7:32 out for you and obviously against you.

7:34 Uh but that's part of the risk that you take when drafting this early,

7:37 which I know you don't want to take because you don't like that fun.

7:39 I'm also a believer by the way in like a nobody likes this.

7:42 I like the early August drafts for my redraft home league and stuff like that.

7:45 Nobody ever wants to be like,

7:46 "I want to get there before all the information's out there.

7:48 I want to get there before they can just have

7:50 every analyst in the world tell them every little last thing." part of it.

7:54 That is part of it, but I I I think I would

7:55 do it even if I was an enthusiast of just the NFL because

7:58 I would want my fresh takes to have a chance to boss them

8:00 instead of like them being caught up by every single ana you know,

8:04 all the the cycle that that comes with it.

8:06 There's still some guys that you can kind of edge by a little

8:10 bit still in August and then obviously it's gone by the end of August.

8:13 I just want to say I'm happy to see you today, Adam.

8:15 I don't think you're a coward.

8:16 I think you like that fun.

8:17 I I have a lot of fun when I'm with you hanging out on the podcast.

8:20 Yeah.

8:21 You know where Jamie and I are at.

8:22 You know where Jamie and I He's drafting in April.

8:24 I mean, come on, people.

8:26 Um all right, news and notes and then uh

8:28 we will uh get into get into the rookies.

8:31 We have a we have a former coworker on our chat.

8:34 Yes, Greg.

8:35 Greg Simolu.

8:36 Greg?

8:37 What's going on?

8:40 [laughter] Uh one of my favorites.

8:41 Very very funny.

8:42 Oh, look at his his What does his avatar say?

8:45 It says, "Be brave enough to suck at something new." I love that.

8:48 What's green stripe?

8:50 Green stripe uh it was a shirt that I had.

8:54 Oh, that green stripe.

8:55 I've heard about that shirt.

8:56 a random green stripe.

8:57 Yeah, that terrible shirt.

8:59 Yeah, a terrible shirt.

9:00 And I wore it to work and uh Greg called me green stripe forever.

9:05 [laughter] And he would look at me and just go,

9:06 "Stripe!" You When you used to go into the office,

9:09 did you have to like pass your outfit by Ali

9:11 or was it just you kind of just wore whatever you wanted?

9:13 And I didn't know her when I went in the office.

9:16 Okay, that's uh that makes a lot more sense.

9:18 No, but you know where I got you bought your stupid Star Wars Star Trek shirt.

9:21 That Star Trek shirt is so bad.

9:22 I want him to wear that.

9:23 When's the last time you put that on air?

9:25 It's been a while.

9:26 It's so bad.

9:28 That thing is definitely going in the garbage.

9:29 There's no No way you're keeping it.

9:31 You know who's having the worst luck right now?

9:33 Jacob.

9:36 [laughter] I'm just I'm just working on other stuff.

9:37 Yeah, carry on.

9:38 Carry on.

9:39 Jacob's all game, man.

9:40 He's all ball.

9:41 Yep, I love it.

9:42 All right, news and notes.

9:43 Deshaun Watson is the inside track to be Cleveland's

9:45 starting quarterback according to Mary Kay Cabot of cleveland.com.

9:49 Uh from a CBSsports.com article, here's just a quote.

9:52 "When he has been on the field, Watson has been awful.

9:55 Among 48 quarterbacks with at least 500 drop backs from 2022 to 2024,

10:00 so that's 48 quarterbacks, Watson ranked 47th, I'll just make it easier,

10:06 46th or 47th in net yards per attempt, expected points added per play,

10:11 explosive plays per drop back, sack rate, and negative plays rate.

10:14 So, we know he's been one of the worst quarterbacks.

10:16 Um, one time the guys were dumb enough to let me write a sleepers column.

10:20 And I made Deshaun Watson a 2024 sleeper because he actually played

10:25 five healthy games in 2023 and he averaged 20.5 fantasy points per game.

10:31 And because if you actually look at his he's

10:33 played five or six healthy games in three straight seasons,

10:35 Deshaun Watson, and I'll just point this out.

10:37 He's coming off a torn Achilles,

10:38 but in all three seasons he was on pace for at least 419 rushing yards.

10:44 And I'll just, you know, I'll just leave it there because he still has

10:47 some rushing upside to maybe make him fantasy relevant.

10:51 But, um, Jacob, what do you think Deshaun Watson,

10:54 not to say that he wouldn't lose his job or anything if he struggles,

10:57 but I guess would you for the sake of Casey Concepcion or Denzel Boston,

11:03 do you have a preference of quarterback?

11:05 Uh, I got no.

11:08 I guess Watson.

11:08 I mean, you just you're like he's was

11:10 the worst when he played and it's like, well, yeah,

11:11 so was Shidou and Taylen Green like they lost

11:15 10 straight games at Arkansas last year or whatever.

11:17 Like I no.

11:18 I don't really want any of the Browns guys for this year.

11:22 I love this.

11:23 Love this.

11:23 Love this for Fan and Concepcion, Boston,

11:26 all these guys because this is going to get them to Arch Manning.

11:30 That is true, but that's down the line.

11:32 That's good for the dynasty aspect of it.

11:33 I thought it was interesting.

11:34 Jamie, you retweeted uh,

11:36 I think Mary Kay Cabot's report on this, but I just

11:39 clicked through that and I just thought it was super interesting.

11:41 He's like breaking news out of voluntary mini camp,

11:45 Deshaun Watson has emerged as the undoubted favorite.

11:48 I'm like, voluntary mini camp.

11:49 I've been I've seen one of these things with the Giants.

11:51 It is not intense.

11:53 It is nothing is going on there.

11:54 There is no nobody emerging from camp rookie voluntary mini camp.

11:58 So, I think this is still going to be a job that's won in camp.

12:01 I don't think Watson's going to be the favorite.

12:03 I think he'll win the job just because I personally find

12:06 Gabriel and and Sanders to be pretty unplayable at the NFL level,

12:09 but I don't think it's going to be too much of advantage for fantasy value.

12:12 That Watson year like that was pre-Achilles, right?

12:15 When he had those rushing yards that the Achilles was after that.

12:17 Yeah, so I just it killed it kills his fantasy value

12:20 to not be like have that upside in my mind of the rushing.

12:23 It's been a while though.

12:24 It's It's been a year and a half, I think.

12:26 Or it will be since he tore the Achilles.

12:28 Yeah, I think it's going to be like pretty close to two full years um,

12:31 once we uh, week one rolls around, but all right.

12:34 Uh, George Pickens signed his franchise tender,

12:37 the Texans signed linebacker Aziz Al-Shair to a three-year $54 million deal,

12:42 and Matt Barrows of The Athletic thinks that the 49ers

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15:02 Which first round pick is a good fit for his team's offense, Dan Schneier?

15:06 Well, let me first start.

15:08 First round rookie pick or first round NFL Draft pick?

15:11 NFL Draft pick.

15:12 Oh, NFL Draft He's talking rookie drafts.

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15:41 All right, that's time that I I got my little time there.

15:45 Best first round rookie draft pick or non-rookie draft pick,

15:48 just first round pick that I like, Jordan Addison for me.

15:52 He's number one for me as far as the fit goes.

15:54 I know a lot of people have questioned it.

15:55 People have said, oh, what's the ceiling here with Chris Olave on the roster?

15:59 Is it possible for him to out-target Olave?

16:01 I think the answer is yes.

16:02 As good as Olave was,

16:03 I still think the answer is yes because for what Kellen Moore wants

16:06 to do a lot of quick game and win over the middle of the field,

16:10 something I think Tyler Scott can do, but needs to still take a jump at.

16:13 Like to me, Scott was at his best last year throwing outside the numbers.

16:17 He can and showed some glimpses of throwing inside the numbers,

16:20 but that's going to be something that has

16:21 to take a step forward with timing, with rapport.

16:23 That's where Addison can win.

16:25 And I think that's where Addison will win and I think there

16:27 is upside for him to out-target

16:28 and potentially out-produce from a reception standpoint,

16:31 maybe not a yards or possibly touchdown standpoint Olave this year.

16:35 So, I love the fit in the scheme and I love

16:37 the fit for him to get a lot of targets there.

16:40 Jacob, your answer?

16:40 Best fit for a first round pick?

16:43 That was incredible.

16:44 Um, Got to get the plug in.

16:47 [laughter] I'll go Jahmyr Gibbs.

16:48 I've got some concerns about Price as well, uh,

16:49 but the fit is pretty clear here, I think,

16:51 as the Kenneth Walker replacement essentially, um,

16:58 coming in as the explosive back who can

17:00 read out some of these outside zone runs,

17:01 inside zone runs as well, and find holes to uh,

17:05 to bounce outside and he's he's tough to bring

17:07 down once he gets ahead of steam rolling.

17:10 Um, so I think he's going to be pretty effective for them on the ground.

17:13 Jamie, any thoughts?

17:15 I love the Price call.

17:16 I mean, I'm not that the Addison call is uh,

17:18 bad by any stretch, but I mean, it's not just and and you know,

17:22 from a from a scheme standpoint,

17:24 obviously he he can do the things that Ken Walker does from a touch standpoint.

17:28 I mean, there's 400 some odd vacated touches with Walker and Charbonnet injured.

17:32 You know, Walker gone and Charbonnet injured.

17:34 And so, it's going to be sort of fascinating to see which of the two backups,

17:38 you know, which prior to the draft could have been the starters, but you know,

17:40 DeeJay Dallas and Emanuel Wilson, you know,

17:41 help in in working with Price who clearly as we've,

17:45 you know, seen and and discussed many times since

17:48 the draft not a full-time guy at Notre Dame.

17:52 You know, can he handle that workload and be

17:54 that type of guy because if he does,

17:56 you know, as as Jacob said, I think it might have been off the air,

17:58 but um, you know, you're you're talking

18:00 about the things that change right now versus

18:03 August and we get those August reports about he's going to be the full-time guy.

18:07 He's going to be the featured guy.

18:08 We're going to use him more in the passing game than than he did at Notre Dame.

18:11 And all these things, these positive reports.

18:13 Like Jahmyr Gibbs, we what did he go?

18:15 Sixth round in the draft we did on Tuesday?

18:17 Like we could be looking at a round four or, you know,

18:20 if it's steamed up too much a round three pick, you know,

18:22 just based on the excitement when you start to talk about those running backs,

18:25 you know, 15 through 25 in a lot of people's rankings and ADP.

18:29 So, Price is is one of the more fascinating high-end rookies just based

18:34 on where he landed and what his potential could be in that offense.

18:38 Uh, Dan, what do you make of Jahmyr Gibbs

18:41 only having 15 catches in three seasons at Notre Dame?

18:45 And what do you think about his pass-catching potential in the NFL?

18:49 It's a big flaw in his overall profile.

18:52 I remember Jacob and I going over this pre-draft and it was a concern.

18:55 I think, you know, we've seen some guys evolve to some extent.

18:59 Like Jonathan Taylor, I think had what at Wisconsin?

19:01 In that range of 15 total catches,

19:03 something poor like that, and has evolved his game

19:06 so much at the NFL level from a receiving standpoint.

19:08 Though, I still feel like he's mostly just used on design passing game touches.

19:11 I don't think Price will ever be like that route winner

19:13 or the guy that becomes a big focal point of the passing game.

19:16 You're going to have to win with him in the red zone.

19:18 You're going to have to win with him

19:18 with explosive plays and just being in a good offense.

19:21 Those are question marks for me, a lot of those, honestly.

19:24 I don't know for sure if he's going to have

19:25 the red zone role even before Charbonnet gets back.

19:28 I don't know how explosive that offense is going to be.

19:31 Um, it was good last year.

19:32 It was efficient last year.

19:34 Um, we'll see.

19:35 They're they've taken steps on the O-line that I like.

19:37 Obviously, Gray Gable wasn't an amazing draft pick last year.

19:39 But, I I think there's some incomplete aspect.

19:41 Like if Jamie's right, and I think he will be,

19:43 by the way, that he just gets steamed up.

19:45 Like I I think it could be round three,

19:47 like pushing because if people are looking at the board and just being like,

19:51 well, he's the lead back on Seattle, Charbonnet is not back until week eight.

19:54 All I'm competing against is Olani and Emanuel Wilson.

19:57 People aren't going to really give them the credit

19:58 and respect in my mind that the coaching staff might be.

20:02 So, it's going to kind of look on paper like, wow,

20:04 this guy is a clear lead back role on the Seattle Seahawks.

20:08 Why are we drafting some kind of, you know, some time share guys over him?

20:11 So, I think he'll probably get steamed up to a point where it doesn't add

20:15 up with the profile from the receiving

20:16 standpoint or from kind of the upside standpoint.

20:19 Just just real quick.

20:20 Just you know, I went to the combine for a few years.

20:22 It was the Ken Walker class.

20:24 Speaking to Ken Walker, his his, you know,

20:26 cat past catching potential was also questioned.

20:29 Um I believe Where was he before Michigan State?

20:33 Wherever he was, he was a little bit more

20:35 involved in his first stint in college as a receiver.

20:39 He was He was in ACC I was thinking Wake Forest.

20:43 I don't but I don't know if that's right.

20:44 It was Wake Forest.

20:46 Oh, it was.

20:46 Wow, what a call.

20:48 I remember that was a conversation, you know, Ken 19 catches, Jamie.

20:51 Ken Walker had 19 catches in college in 3 years.

20:54 Yeah, it was it was a story because Ryan Wilson likes to tell the joke.

20:59 Walker was Ryan's number one running back

21:01 that year and most people like Breece Hall

21:04 better and we were on set with both of them and I I said to Breece,

21:08 I go, hey, this guy has you number two.

21:09 What would you say to him?

21:10 Breece gave me a look of death.

21:12 That's awesome.

21:14 Uh and Ryan likes to remind me of that all the time.

21:16 I just went back and looked at D'Onta Foreman in high school,

21:19 uh his junior and senior year,

21:21 he had 28 catches in his junior in 11 games and 27 catches in his senior year.

21:26 So, if he can be a 25 catch guy, which I think is realistic,

21:30 not necessarily hard to do if he's a full-time guy,

21:32 like that just gives him a little bit more of a bump and then

21:34 anything on top of that, like if he can get into the 30 range,

21:37 like then we are talking about a guy that could significantly outperform what

21:41 his ADP at least is right now or is setting up to be.

21:43 Yeah, but Jamie, in high school, uh 35% of his catches came in one game against

21:49 a team that was that gave up a ton of [laughter] The heck is that from?

21:56 No, I'm just giving like a crazy stupid made up stat.

21:59 Okay, uh second question here, which We also have just just to put

22:03 in perspective a a new play caller in Seattle.

22:06 So, Right.

22:06 you know, run game coordinator from San Francisco.

22:09 Obviously like to throw to their backs, so we'll see if that matters, too.

22:12 Yeah.

22:13 Which first round rookie is a bad fit for his team's offense, Jacob?

22:18 Um I have not thought about this at all.

22:20 Let me Let me think about this for a moment.

22:22 Hopefully nobody.

22:24 I think people would point towards LeMieux,

22:26 um but I what I would say just because Hurts is

22:29 like league low in terms of targeting the middle of the field,

22:31 but I do think that LeMieux could do a lot

22:32 more than just the slot stuff that he's done.

22:35 And if you look at the GM and the coach speak,

22:38 they both point towards that a lot that he

22:40 can beat all sorts of different coverage types,

22:42 work from the inside and the outside.

22:44 Um and then also we have a new play caller in Philadelphia.

22:47 So, maybe we do see Hurts's game expanded a little bit.

22:51 Um but in terms of just like on paper,

22:53 the fit there probably feels the most awkward of the round one guys.

22:58 Yeah.

22:59 For me, it's definitely LeMieux.

23:00 I mean, look, I have a little bit more faith in both LeMieux and Sours.

23:03 I saw some I thought it was a great discussion

23:06 with um Matt Harmon and Nate Tice where they're saying like,

23:09 these guys are also like, yeah, they win on in-breaking routes.

23:12 They also can win with the quick out-breaking routes.

23:14 And that's again an area of the field

23:15 Hurts has been a little bit better targeting.

23:18 Um I still have question marks there.

23:19 I mean, I just flashbacks to last year's Thursday night football game

23:22 against the Giants where he tried in the red zone to throw

23:24 an out-breaker and Cordell Flott jumped it for a pick six and it

23:26 was really telegraphed and it was really bad velocity throw behind the receiver.

23:30 So, I I don't necessarily know if he any of their game fits Hurts,

23:34 but that's a problem that any receiver was going

23:36 to join the Eagles was going to have for me.

23:40 Uh okay.

23:41 Let me throw out a uh I'm throwing out this one.

23:45 Do we think that Jeremiah Love might be a bad fit for a team

23:49 that has three legit pass catching pass catching options already and I mean,

23:57 I think a lot of people consider them to have a bad offensive line.

24:00 The Cardinals did draft an offensive lineman with their second round pick.

24:05 Um ESPN's run block win rate had them at 15, but PFF had them at 29.

24:11 So, I never know what to believe there.

24:12 Right.

24:13 But I feel like Jeremiah Love's going to have to be involved,

24:18 Jamie, in the passing game to a pretty good degree.

24:20 I mean, I I think we need I think they need to use

24:22 him that way cuz he's he can be really good that way.

24:25 Um but yeah, I mean,

24:27 considering they have arguably the best tight end and these two

24:30 wide receivers who looked good last year at times,

24:33 is it going to be enough for him?

24:35 Is it Is he a bad fit for Arizona?

24:38 I don't I mean, look, it's not the most ideal fit,

24:40 you know, especially if they're going to keep everybody on their depth chart.

24:43 So, you know, it's not just that they have those three pass catchers.

24:46 They have James Conner who also can do that.

24:49 They have Trey Benson who I think can still potentially be involved in that.

24:53 I don't think there's going to be Tyler Allgeier,

24:55 but um it really comes down to for me like who's going to be the quarterback.

24:59 If it's Carson Beck and you're asking him to support all of these guys,

25:02 then I'm going to be terrified.

25:04 You know, if it's obviously Jacoby Brissett or even Gardner Minshew, you know,

25:08 guys who have had success in this type of situation, you know,

25:11 bad teams having to throw a lot, having to play sort of um you know,

25:16 this heroic style of football late in games, then I think it's going to be fine.

25:20 It's just really comes down to like any team that he

25:22 was going to go to, he was going to make better.

25:24 Any any situation that he was going to go to, they were going to feature him.

25:28 Is this the the the type of offense, you know, again,

25:30 it's it's a new play caller, it's uh you know, new coach.

25:34 Um so, we'll we'll see how this is.

25:36 But you know, when you see the investment,

25:38 knowing that they had so many holes to fill and they go out and they just say,

25:41 we're taking what we consider to be the best player in this draft,

25:44 best player at third overall,

25:47 I think that just speaks volumes to how much they're going to use him.

25:49 So, it really comes down to for what we do is

25:53 how much of an investment do you want to make in him?

25:55 And I think where he went in our draft on Tuesday was perfect.

25:58 Early round three, you know, went in that mix of running backs of you know,

26:02 right after D'Onta Foreman and Hampton,

26:04 uh behind Chase Brown, you know, you can argue the Josh Jacobs pick,

26:08 you know, where where that went, uh Jacobs falling in the draft.

26:11 Um but around those guys, Ken Walker, all all that group of running backs.

26:15 Like I Derrick Henry,

26:16 like I I think you just put him

26:17 in that in that second back half of round one, that's appropriate.

26:22 So, ideal landing spot, ideal situation, ideal offense, probably not on paper,

26:28 but I don't think that matters for a talent like him.

26:30 I think his, you know,

26:31 his performance will speak for itself if he gets enough work.

26:34 For what it's worth,

26:34 Matt LaFleur offenses have not thrown to the running back position very much.

26:38 Um Breece Hall's lowest target total came in his rookie

26:40 season and that was his lowest per game total,

26:43 too, other than last year, which was obviously just a mess with the Jets.

26:46 And that's the most that LaFleur offense has thrown to the running back

26:49 position in terms of like a a running back in their targets per game,

26:52 4.4 targets per game for Breece Hall that year.

26:55 Uh then it's Kyren Williams at four targets per game and that's back

26:58 in 2023 and no other running back has had more than that in this offense.

27:01 It does feel a little bit awkward,

27:03 the Arizona fit with him and McBride and the receivers.

27:05 Yeah.

27:06 All right.

27:07 Maybe my last question about the day one guys.

27:10 Which rookie Jacob, I'll go to you first.

27:12 Which rookie should be drafted second in redraft leagues?

27:15 Jeremiah Love is going to be first.

27:17 The draft we did the other day,

27:18 I believe Carnell Tate was second, but we thought maybe Price would be.

27:22 Who do you think should be drafted second among the rookies?

27:26 I would probably go with Tyson.

27:28 Um I think that he has the most upside.

27:30 Uh Price does scare me for a lot of reasons.

27:32 So, if you do want to check out these individual profiles,

27:33 I have them beyond the box scores, a bunch of research.

27:36 And he would have to be like Nick Chubb level good, I think,

27:38 to be a fantasy contributor within the parameters

27:42 that we have for what he looks like on paper,

27:44 which is a running back who really struggles in short

27:45 yardage situations and isn't much of a passing downs contributor.

27:50 Um I think that it might sound silly,

27:51 but Emanuel Wilson is really really solid at those two things.

27:54 He's a success rate machine.

27:56 Um and he's a good pass protector, big body.

27:58 So, I think he'll probably be splitting

28:00 early and then Zach Charbonnet is looming.

28:03 There's obviously upside with him, but there's upside with Tyson, too.

28:06 I think the fit is really really perfect there and Kellen Moore

28:08 is just the exact type of offensive coordinator to get Tyson a lot

28:11 of free releases where he's moving around before the snap and finding perfect

28:15 ways to strain defenses and create space for Tyson to win one-on-one matchups,

28:20 which is what he's very good at.

28:21 What he's not good at is like winning off of the line,

28:23 getting physical with players, winning through the catch point.

28:26 He needs space.

28:27 And I think he's in a perfect situation here with the Saints.

28:29 So, that that's probably who I would lean towards.

28:31 Although, I haven't done I've only done positional rankings.

28:33 I haven't done overall rankings yet.

28:35 Okay.

28:35 Dan, same question.

28:36 Which rookie should be drafted second in redraft leagues?

28:38 Yeah, I actually just had this decision sort of.

28:40 I mean, it was Love them and Dosa.

28:42 It was superflex, but I had the same decision.

28:44 It's not like I was going to take Ty Simpson at three.

28:46 I took Tyson.

28:47 I feel very similarly.

28:48 Jacob outlined a great case for him.

28:51 Wow.

28:51 Okay.

28:53 Uh You did in the rookie draft?

28:55 In a in a dynasty rookie.

28:56 Yeah, yeah.

28:57 He he I'm asking for redraft.

28:58 Redraft.

28:58 I'm asking for redraft.

29:00 Oh, um the answer would still be Tyson for me.

29:02 I I I'm not very I'm not as high on this Carnell Tate Titans situation.

29:06 I think look, Kim Ward has an explosive arm and he's

29:09 really good off script and he's really good at the intermediate level,

29:12 which could be great for for Tate.

29:14 I think he, if you look at the numbers

29:15 dating back to even his last season at Miami,

29:17 he struggled with vertical throws, the 20-plus yard air throws,

29:20 the ball placement, the accuracy numbers.

29:22 It was all down at Miami and down in his first season with the Titans.

29:26 It was.

29:28 Um but I do think he's a good fit in that inter- intermediate range, you know.

29:32 good in the intermediate range, but I think that offense could devolve

29:34 very quickly into Wan'Dale Robinson 150 targets.

29:38 Kellen Moore's been so good for fantasy.

29:40 I feel like that's just such an easy one to bet on.

29:41 There could be an injury or something with Tyson, but Kellen Moore,

29:43 man, has just like put together fantasy juggernauts over and over and over.

29:47 and particularly he's been really good at like using the slot.

29:50 Like he's produced more PPR points from the slot

29:53 in Keenan Allen seasons and CeeDee Lamb

29:56 seasons than we've ever seen before and I

29:58 don't it's not fair to Tyson to be like,

30:00 oh he's going to be Keenan Allen or CeeDee Lamb,

30:01 but those are two guys who are like actually kind of does move a little

30:04 bit like them before the catch in terms

30:06 of the quickness laterally and stuff like that.

30:07 Both those guys came to mind for me

30:08 and Dan when we watched a bunch of Tyson film.

30:10 Like it's such a good fit.

30:11 Yeah.

30:12 Cool.

30:13 Uh let's get in some rookie gems.

30:15 So, we've heard a lot over the last few weeks about you know,

30:19 before the draft and after the draft about the round

30:21 one guys certainly we've we've hammered that point home.

30:24 But how about after that?

30:26 Um Jacob, I'm going to let you start.

30:28 Who do you want to highlight here and and let's frame it appropriately.

30:31 We're not saying that you need to draft these guys in redraft leagues.

30:34 We're saying we like these players.

30:36 If something breaks right, they could have a a nice fantasy impact.

30:39 I won't put words in your mouth.

30:40 How do you want to frame these rookie gems and then

30:43 you can talk about whoever you want to talk about.

30:45 Yeah, so we've gone like super super off the deep end

30:48 sicko picks over the past couple of years with these rookie gems.

30:51 I look back at last year's answers and it

30:53 was like basically everyone was round four through seven.

30:56 I'm going to cheat a little bit here cuz I you know,

30:58 this class is maybe not as good relatively

31:01 speaking and Adam wanted some like more relevant players.

31:05 So, I'm going to go with a round three pick early round three pick.

31:07 I really like Antoine Wesley game.

31:10 He's a slot receiver mostly,

31:11 but I do think he can win on the outside and if you read the coach speak,

31:16 the GM speak on this guy, they love him to death.

31:20 I really like his game,

31:21 but I think that he's kind of like the Elijah Moore type of profile

31:24 where it's like really really good winner from the inside or kind of moving.

31:28 It seems like the NFL's kind of moving

31:29 in the direction where that kind of player

31:31 doesn't matter as much and so I was like unless he gets a perfect fit,

31:34 I'm probably not going to care about him for fantasy.

31:37 And then he goes to a team that really seems to value all of the skills

31:39 that he brings and thinks that he has

31:41 the toughness to play in two receiver sets as well.

31:43 They really talked about his blocking, his ability to win over the middle,

31:46 his fearlessness over the middle in terms of taking hits.

31:49 They they think he's a bigger,

31:50 more physical presence than the typical slot receiver archetype.

31:54 I feel so good about Williams with the caveat

31:58 that like to Adam's point about drafting rookie drafts too early,

32:02 we could easily see Brandon Aiyuk, Stefon Diggs, Jauan Jennings,

32:04 somebody like that come in here and change the equation a little bit,

32:08 but as it currently stands,

32:09 he's in an offense with a really good quarterback with a new play caller

32:12 who could open some things up in terms of play action and stuff like

32:15 that to boost efficiency and no clear

32:17 target hog and really no other target presence

32:20 behind Terry McLaurin who's kind of always

32:22 topped out of that 22% target share range.

32:25 So, things look great for him for fantasy purposes

32:28 and I actually did like the film and data evaluation.

32:31 I just didn't know how it translate,

32:32 but now that he's in a good spot, I feel really good about it.

32:35 It's so hard to get one in rookie drafts now.

32:37 It's it's you know.

32:39 I I I think when you start to get past like the 10th,

32:42 11th pick like Even where it gets worse even at eight,

32:45 I feel like it just gets bought.

32:46 That's fair.

32:46 You know, I I you know,

32:49 there's just you look for a fit, you look for opportunity.

32:51 I think Jacob said it best like this could be

32:53 one where we get screwed over a little bit for 2026.

32:57 But McLaurin's 29.

32:58 Right.

32:59 You could certainly see a situation where

33:01 they're done with him and whoever they add, whether it's you know,

33:04 Jennings or Diggs or Aiyuk or you know, shockingly maybe Tyreek Hill, you know,

33:08 all these older receivers that are not going to be around very long.

33:11 So, it could be a great situation for Williams even if

33:13 he doesn't necessarily have that type of production his rookie season.

33:17 Yeah, looking at the draft grades on our draft tracker,

33:19 this one got an A+ from Mike Renner.

33:21 Antonio Williams going to the Commanders early in the third round.

33:25 We are going to take a break and get more

33:27 rookie gems when we come back on Fantasy Football Today.

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33:35 Crutch, crutch.

33:37 Crutch, you need anything.

33:38 I do have one question.

33:40 We didn't mean right now.

33:43 [music] Okay, Dan, you're up.

33:48 All right, keeping with the theme of trying to find not so deep gems for now.

33:52 Started off with the less deep ones

33:54 and players who might actually impact redraft right away.

33:57 I'm going to go with a player who I think is down on some people's boards.

34:00 He's all the way up at nine for me overall in my dynasty rankings.

34:05 And that's DeShawn Shivers, the wide receiver from the 49ers.

34:07 They made a much earlier draft pick than people expected.

34:10 Looked into Shivers more after the draft.

34:12 Saw a little bit of him pre-draft.

34:14 Um When when I watched him,

34:16 there was it like wasn't the most complete wide receiver profile.

34:19 I wasn't a huge fan of him.

34:20 But when he was drafted to the 49ers, like this is exactly where he needs to be.

34:24 It's the exact profile that I think will win in that type

34:27 of scheme and that type of system that Shanahan runs.

34:29 It's the ability to win on overs and win with the ball after the catch.

34:33 This is exactly the type of receiver they've drafted and they've

34:36 had success with in a Brandon Aiyuk mold to me.

34:39 Just that ability, I think at one point

34:40 he reached 23 mph last season post catch.

34:43 Shivers one of the fastest if not the fastest speeds of any receiver.

34:46 It's what they're looking for.

34:47 Somebody to run the overs off the play action, catch the ball,

34:50 have Purdy time it up perfectly the way Purdy does.

34:52 And then once he's in space, he'll do the rest.

34:54 And so, the fit's awesome.

34:56 I think he'll get on the field early because

34:57 he can block better much better than Ricky Pearsall.

35:00 Heck, he can block probably immediately better

35:03 than almost every receiver on that team,

35:04 especially if they don't resign Jauan Jennings.

35:06 So, essentially I feel like they'll just

35:08 use him like Jennings they use Jennings.

35:10 So, I don't really understand any

35:11 of the drawback with Shivers outside of the age,

35:13 the lack of production profile.

35:15 Um obviously coming from a team where production wasn't easy at college

35:18 and a system and scheme and quarterback play where it wasn't easy.

35:21 Age is definitely a factor.

35:22 He's not like the loosest receiver out there.

35:24 He's not it's not like watching Jordan Tyson run routes.

35:26 But I don't think it needs to be.

35:28 I don't think Deebo Samuel was the greatest route runner ever

35:30 either with San Francisco and he was uber productive there as well.

35:34 So, the blocking will get him on the field early.

35:36 The post catch explosion will make it fun in fantasy.

35:38 Very high on Shivers.

35:41 Yeah, Shivers is 6'2" and he ran a 4.36 40.

35:47 And I looked at the list of guys that were

35:49 6'2" and I don't know if I 6'2" or higher,

35:52 probably 6'2" or higher or taller and ran he

35:56 ran a 4.36 I put a 4.38 40 or better.

35:59 And you get guys like you know, back in the day Calvin Johnson,

36:02 Julio Jones, but more recently DK Metcalf, Brian Thomas Jr., Christian Watson.

36:07 Then you get DJ Chark,

36:08 Adonai Mitchell and it's a list of guys with high A dots for the most part.

36:12 So, my fear with Shivers who was taken really early in the second round.

36:16 I mean kind of like when we'd be very interested in a wide receiver,

36:19 it just seemed like a huge reach is

36:21 that he just becomes what are we calling it now?

36:24 The sacrificial X?

36:26 The the deep ball guy cuz these these big in that offense though.

36:30 That's not how that offense operates, Sam.

36:32 kind of did with Pearsall last year.

36:34 And it was really bothering me with Pearsall.

36:36 Pearsall's a very different player though, yeah.

36:38 And now he is.

36:39 He shouldn't be used that way.

36:41 I agree, yeah.

36:42 And now they have Evans.

36:44 Um you know, maybe they use Evans that way.

36:46 I don't know, but Shivers I just hope

36:48 he doesn't become a deep ball guy basically.

36:50 He didn't he did not catch caught 14 deep balls in 56 career games in college.

36:57 I don't really know what to make of him,

36:58 but I think the the the fun thing about Kyle Shanahan

37:01 is that he's one of the best at evolving his you know,

37:04 his profile a little bit, you know,

37:05 and using what works best for him at that time and you know,

37:08 you've seen different versions of this, you know, the Deebo Samuel run offense,

37:12 the Christian McCaffrey run offense, you know, how George Kittle has you know,

37:15 evolved from I don't want to say just a red zone threat,

37:18 but you know, clearly his game continues to you know, keep improving.

37:22 And so, you know, he he caters to his personnel.

37:24 He's obviously had to cater to what Brock Purdy has done based on what he

37:27 had with Jimmy Garoppolo and what they thought

37:29 they were going to get with Trey Lance.

37:30 And so, now you're adding a Hall of Fame guy in Mike Evans.

37:34 You're adding you know,

37:35 a guy that a lot of people think they reach for clearly in in Shivers,

37:38 but his game may fit to what this offense needs.

37:42 You know, we haven't seen what really Ricky Pearsall can

37:45 do because he's been injured so much and you know,

37:47 had a lot of missed time in in the preseason process,

37:51 you know, with the gunshot wound and and some injuries last year.

37:53 So, like this is and now you have

37:55 Kittle coming off an Achilles injury, you know,

37:56 so there there's a lot of moving parts

37:58 again for San Francisco with a 30-year-old running back.

38:00 Like this this is one of these guys I think

38:03 in Shivers that he and and I think Williams too, you know,

38:07 we had the comment in the chat like we're going to look

38:08 back on this and say this was like the Amon-Ra St.

38:10 Brown.

38:11 Um I I think when you look at these these guys like these are

38:15 good fits for either opportunity or role or both or or system or both.

38:19 Like he could be he could be fascinating, you know,

38:22 just based on an injury or even just a year

38:25 away when Evans is 33 and he leaves the team.

38:29 Like this could be a big piece of what

38:30 San Francisco and Kyle Shanahan do assuming Shanahan's still there.

38:33 Can I throw out an old school Shanahan

38:35 comp and get your opinion on this for Shivers?

38:38 Uh somebody who had success with them

38:39 in Washington and San Francisco was Pierre Garçon.

38:42 Oh, Garçon.

38:44 I think Garçon could do a little bit more as a route runner,

38:47 um but a deep ball guy who could also do some of the short stuff,

38:50 could move into the slot a little bit,

38:51 had a little bit of YAC, um was just really tough.

38:54 Uh I've been trying to figure out like who

38:56 he reminds me of from Shanahan receivers and I was

38:58 thinking of like Jauan Jennings and Kendrick Bourne and players

39:02 like that, but I'm like he's just way faster, way more athletic than those guys.

39:06 And then Garçon's who I kind of landed on.

39:07 In terms of recent recent players,

39:10 I feel like Romeo Doubs is who I've been throwing out to people

39:12 where it's like the Doubs track kind of where it's like typically this kind

39:15 of player in terms of the way that they win as an NFL

39:18 player doesn't often get a lot of targets or be that meaningful for fantasy,

39:23 but I do think he's better than Doubs.

39:24 I think he's a little bit more physical.

39:26 He's faster, has I think better feel for like

39:30 space after the catch and stuff like that.

39:31 So, maybe you can expand on that a little

39:33 bit and he's in a maybe a better offense, too.

39:35 Okay.

39:36 Yeah.

39:37 All right, um Jacob, you're back on the clock with another rookie gem.

39:41 [snorts] Yeah, so I like the Shivers call out,

39:42 but he's not somebody I would go to because I guess

39:44 I think I have a hard time seeing the ultimate upside.

39:46 Is he ever going to be like a target hog type of player?

39:49 Um and so that's I I'm I'm taking bigger swings here with like Antonio Williams

39:54 where I think he could be somebody who gets like a a target share above 20%.

39:58 And so the other guy who from me for me

39:59 from this class stands out in that way is Chris Bell in Miami.

40:03 It would be a wait-and-see thing.

40:04 I doubt that we'll see a bunch of him early in the year.

40:07 Um but Louisville receiver Chris Bell awesome awesome on film.

40:11 Um in his fourth season there really broke out

40:13 in a huge way and could have had a lot more.

40:14 The quarterback play was I mean if you watch it,

40:16 you see Chris Bell like throwing his hands up all

40:18 the time making [laughter] kind of showing his quarterback up.

40:20 So we'll see if that uh translates to the pros,

40:23 but Who cares about the character?

40:25 Yeah, that that only that only adds to the A.J.

40:27 Brown comparisons, which are pretty clear.

40:29 Like when you watch him in the collegiate level,

40:30 it's like that literally looks like A.J.

40:32 Brown out here against college guys.

40:33 Um and he's he's a more refined player I think than

40:36 you would expect given the archetype of like big physical guy,

40:39 but he didn't break out until year four.

40:41 I think he's a much better version of like the Xavier Legette type

40:44 of players that we've seen come

40:45 in recently where they're big athletic presences,

40:47 but they didn't break out until late.

40:49 And why is that?

40:50 And then you watch them at the NFL level and like, "Oh,

40:52 there's a there's a lot of reasons why." Uh I think

40:54 this guy can can win at the top of his routes

40:56 and that win coming back to the ball with physicality

40:59 and then can win with the ball in his hands as well.

41:01 So in a Miami offense that really doesn't have anyone like that at all,

41:05 uh he's pretty intriguing late in the year.

41:07 Yeah, I'm probably going to take Chris Bell over Stribling.

41:11 I probably will have this decision to make when I

41:13 pick 11th and 12th in our stupid dynasty league, which sucks.

41:17 But uh why does the dynasty league suck?

41:19 Because your team is so bad in it.

41:21 That's not a fair way to go about it.

41:24 [laughter] I know.

41:24 way better.

41:25 What was the uh Malik Nabers trade again?

41:27 Uh so I gave I traded Malik Nabers for uh

41:30 some pop a bag of popcorn and uh What was it?

41:35 Why didn't you come to people like a There's a Giants fan in the league.

41:37 You didn't even give him a chance to match the offer.

41:39 was the case.

41:40 You you don't even know you don't even know you don't You can text me, Adam.

41:42 We text all the time about nonsense.

41:44 [laughter] You can text me about something important like I'm trading Nabers.

41:46 He's on the block.

41:47 It's a top dynasty player, like a top 20 dynasty player.

41:51 It can you beat this offer?

41:52 And I might have beaten it, honestly.

41:53 What was it again?

41:54 No, it doesn't matter what it was.

41:55 I don't want to talk want to know what you got for Nabers.

41:58 I don't want to talk about it and to know, Jamie.

42:00 What Now it's relevant.

42:01 Like now we're in the rookie draft.

42:02 Jamie, what was it?

42:03 Listen.

42:04 How bad was it?

42:05 to talk about it.

42:06 Chris Bell um yeah, we we like Chris Bell.

42:09 I think the Dolphins situation's fascinating.

42:11 They drafted three wide receivers.

42:13 Bell may not play much this year.

42:15 If I'm Miami, I almost give him a redshirt

42:16 year because this not going to matter very much

42:18 and want to make sure this guy's healthy cuz

42:20 he might be very relevant for them in the future.

42:23 I I think Caleb Douglas uh you know, I was talking to Pete Prisco about him.

42:28 He said a lot of people in the league like him much

42:30 more than the draftnik people did based on where their rankings were.

42:33 So like he heard from a lot of people around the league

42:35 that the Dolphins got a very nice pick in in nice player in Douglas.

42:40 We'll see how that matters.

42:41 And then Kevin Coleman's another guy that's going to you know,

42:43 be potentially involved for them.

42:45 It's just like this receiving core

42:47 on paper could be absolutely disastrous, you know,

42:49 and all three of these rookies may matter when you're

42:51 talking about Jaelan Darden and Tutu Atwell and Malik Washington.

42:55 Like that's who these guys are competing with and they

42:57 could come in and be significant playmakers right away.

43:00 Okay, let's go to our next one, Dan.

43:04 [laughter] Who's your next pick?

43:05 Fortunately, I was just told what the trade was in the chat.

43:07 I have no idea when you did this, but it was just unbelievably bad.

43:10 Just recently, oh Oh, you want the trade?

43:13 I'll tell you what the trade is.

43:13 No, I don't care about the trade anymore.

43:15 Adam traded Malik Nabers,

43:17 one of the best players in dynasty overall, pretty much.

43:20 Uh-huh.

43:20 For Micah Wilson, who I actually like, but not to that extent.

43:23 A crappy 2026 one that he's going to do nothing with.

43:26 It's like Stribling or Yeah, okay.

43:28 We're muting him.

43:30 And then a two and a three.

43:31 All right, let me tell you my next pick.

43:33 two first-round picks and a two and a three.

43:36 One's a second first.

43:37 I hope in 2027.

43:38 No.

43:38 No, unfortunately, they they they're terrible now.

43:41 I mean, they I thought I didn't think this draft would be this bad.

43:45 is going to be so bad for so many years.

43:47 That dynasty team.

43:48 Oh my god.

43:49 It already is.

43:50 It already is, my friend.

43:51 All right, This is the this is the this is the curse of Darnell Mooney for you.

43:54 All right, let's go a little faster here.

43:55 I want you guys to get more points.

43:57 Okay, okay.

43:57 Let me get to my next one.

43:58 It's one of my favorite bets in this entire class

44:01 before the draft and I don't mind the landing spot.

44:03 It's Head Hurst, the wide receiver out of Georgia State.

44:06 This guy is 6'4, 200 4 lbs, ran a 442,

44:11 and has a 32 almost 33-in arms and uses them well.

44:15 He's unbelievable at tracking the football on the vertical plane.

44:18 He can accelerate post-catch in ways that are exciting for someone who's 6'4.

44:22 He's the closest athletic comp and not athletic, I mean movement comp.

44:26 Somebody when I watch the tape, I see it.

44:28 To George Pickens that I've seen since George Pickens came to the NFL.

44:31 He's not George Pickens, but he has some aspects of his game that you

44:34 might say are maybe a little bit more intriguing.

44:36 The 442 speed, the post-catch burst.

44:39 He was a former no-star recruit and now he's

44:41 a NFL draft pick in round three to the Bucks,

44:43 a team that lost Mike Evans, has developed wide receivers in really good ways,

44:47 and has really scouted wide receivers well.

44:49 I thought Puka Nacua McMillan I thought was a good job scouting.

44:52 Tez Johnson was a good job scouting.

44:54 Understands the wide receiver position and how what to win.

44:57 His ability to kind of sink his hips at the top

44:59 of the routes is really uncanny for somebody who's 6'4 and 204 lbs.

45:04 I have a couple things I wanted to bring with him.

45:06 I mean, he's got production.

45:07 He had 34 catches of 20-plus yards.

45:09 That's obviously in FBS.

45:10 Um and so obviously it's not you know, you want to take that into account,

45:14 but this is what really stands out to me

45:16 as far as like getting the hype machine going.

45:18 Steve Smith, former NFL receiver,

45:20 said he has the ability and shows flashes of a {quote} "faster

45:23 Larry Fitzgerald." And then he went over the tape and he's like,

45:26 "This is what Fitz used to do." And he's like showing examples.

45:28 Greg Cosell, godfather of tape, said if this guy played at any

45:31 of the power five scores or power four conferences,

45:34 he would have been a first-round draft pick and I completely agree with him.

45:37 I don't mind the landing spot and I'm all in on Hurst.

45:39 All right, I have a question for you.

45:41 Movie movie trivia.

45:43 Yeah, I was going to say movie trivia.

45:45 Uh name the movie that this character is in.

45:48 Did I freeze again?

45:49 Olaf.

45:51 [laughter] I don't know, but I can't believe this is freezing again.

45:52 I just did so many things to fix this issue.

45:55 You don't know Olaf?

45:56 I don't know Olaf.

45:57 What's Olaf?

45:58 Elsa.

45:58 You were frozen the entire Why would I have ever seen Frozen?

46:01 I was frozen the entire time.

46:04 [laughter] So brutal.

46:05 I don't know what's happening.

46:06 He unfroze.

46:07 Literally, you're Thomas.

46:08 Thomas figured out.

46:10 I say do all the work.

46:11 The moment he stopped talking, he unfroze.

46:14 Yeah.

46:15 [laughter] Why?

46:16 Why?

46:18 Um I [snorts] love I love the Ted Hurst call-out.

46:20 Yeah.

46:21 Uh so so far Antonio Williams and Chris Bell from Jacob.

46:26 De'Shawn Stribling and Ted Hurst for Dan.

46:30 And uh Jacob, you're on the clock.

46:32 I've got lots of other receivers,

46:33 but let's get him let's get them a non-receiver.

46:35 I'm going to go with De'Montre Clayborn, Minnesota, round six.

46:38 Wide-open backfield potentially one where where there could be injuries.

46:41 Sorry, Dan.

46:42 It's okay.

46:42 Um KOC, love the offensive fit there and man,

46:45 the idea of him and Kyler Murray together

46:47 in the backfield potentially could be a lot of fun,

46:48 a lot of speed there for defenses to worry about.

46:51 That offensive line could be good at moments last year.

46:53 They looked really really good before they all got hurt.

46:55 Um and I really liked his film.

46:57 I think there's some receiving upside potentially,

47:00 but mostly you're looking for explosive plays.

47:02 So I think he's he's a really interesting guy that you're

47:04 going to get at the end of drafts for free,

47:07 um who could be worth the stash and could come on strong at some point.

47:11 And even though he's small,

47:13 he showed an ability to handle a lot of work up the middle,

47:15 handle multiple games of 20-plus touches at the collegiate level.

47:19 So I think there's there's some upside.

47:20 Probably Minnesota doesn't want him in that type of a role,

47:22 but there's some upside if need be that he could push into 10,

47:25 15, 20 touches in a game.

47:27 I wonder if I I I love the call.

47:29 I wonder if because this running back class is not very exciting,

47:34 at least not very exciting going in.

47:36 And you saw two guys in round one and then

47:39 just everybody sort of fall later in the draft, you know, Jonah Coleman, etc.

47:44 on the way down.

47:44 Keaontay Ingram, whatever.

47:46 Like you get a guy like Clayborn who and I and I

47:49 put sort of Keaontay Ingram in the same sort of category,

47:51 you know, these murky backfields or at least older potential for, you know,

47:55 immediate playing time.

47:57 Like these there there are a couple guys that you could see being relevant.

48:02 Now, will they be like Damien Pierce relevant for a year and then

48:05 they kind of get replaced because the next year's crop or, you know,

48:08 I'm not so well versed in the 2027 running back class,

48:11 but let's just say like there there's a deeper group and and a better group.

48:15 Um that there there's a short-term window.

48:17 So like Aaron Jones gets hurt, they don't want to give Jordan Mason

48:20 the full workload or they kind of, you know,

48:21 use Clayborn in tandem with Mason or maybe both get

48:24 hurt or in the case of Allen and Washington, you know,

48:26 he's competing with a seventh-round guy and Keaontay Ingram is

48:28 competing with more of a pass-catching guy in Rashad White.

48:30 Like we get Allen getting immediate touches.

48:33 Like I'm so curious about a couple of these situations.

48:35 Jonah Coleman, you know,

48:36 how they're going to use him in Denver with a limited, you know, draft capital.

48:40 They go and get a running back again.

48:42 And obviously Dobbins may not be there very long after this year.

48:45 So like Clayborn is is is fascinating.

48:48 You know, this is the type of guy, you know, again,

48:50 I traded my my third-round pick and and the pick was for for Clayborn.

48:54 Like that could be a guy by the time we get to August and, you know,

48:57 the non-fun people like Adam are doing their drafts.

48:59 Yeah.

49:00 And Clayborn has a a role based on what O'Connell's saying,

49:04 based on what the reports are.

49:05 Like he could be a round two pick, you know,

49:07 for a guy that's going around late round

49:09 two probably at the earliest in one-quarterback leagues,

49:11 but you know, most likely see him in in in the round three range.

49:14 In dynasty, of course, Jamie is talking about.

49:16 Correct.

49:16 Uh some news uh from Mike Garafolo.

49:19 Darius Slayton just recently underwent surgery for I have to sneeze.

49:23 Core muscle.

49:25 Uh damn it.

49:27 I lost it.

49:27 Um core muscle Uh Darius Slayton recently

49:32 underwent surgery for a core muscle injury.

49:34 He should be full go for training camp.

49:37 Um so now Dan's going to tell you why Malachi Fields is a rookie gem.

49:42 [laughter] No, he wouldn't be my next pick.

49:43 My next pick would be Emmett Johnson,

49:46 a running back out of Nebraska who I toyed with the idea pre-draft

49:49 of having as my RB2 overall just based on how good the tape was.

49:53 This is a player who I believe was docked

49:55 because he ran the 455 similar to me Bucky Irving

49:58 who has pretty much played out exactly the same not

50:00 similar players or prospects but played out exactly the same.

50:03 They both had good tape especially the ability to process

50:06 behind the line of scrimmage to understand and set

50:08 up blocks to make those quick cuts and get

50:10 in and out of spaces and get themselves in advantage situations.

50:14 But they both ran those high 45s and then both became day three draft picks.

50:18 With Johnson I feel like he doesn't have the same maybe

50:22 burst and explosiveness as Bucky but he definitely has the same make

50:25 you miss ability and definitely has the same processing and I

50:28 think he has an even better receiving profile coming out of Nebraska.

50:31 You watch that game tape and you see he was a big part of their offense.

50:34 I always say this any running backs you watch in college

50:36 that are a big part of the passing game and I don't

50:37 I mean just not getting like occasional dump downs or designed

50:40 screens literally they're designing aspects of their game plan for this player.

50:45 I believe they translate well from a receiving profile

50:47 to the next level and I look at that Chiefs

50:48 roster and I'm like yeah they signed Kenneth Walker

50:50 but Kenneth Walker's never been a massive workload guy

50:53 at any point in his career and he has

50:54 a major injury history and the Chiefs in recent years

50:58 not at all times but in recent years for sure

51:00 and most of Andy Reid's tenure have featured multiple backs.

51:03 I could potentially see Emmett Johnson stepping right into the Kareem Hunt

51:06 role and that Kareem Hunt role has been super fruitful for fantasy.

51:10 With Kareem Hunt operating it Emmett Johnson is just a better version

51:13 of what Kareem Hunt can offer on a snap for snap basis.

51:16 I don't know if necessarily he'll have the same red zone role that Hunt

51:18 had and that was a big factor in his fantasy value but I

51:22 don't necessarily know that he won't either so just a great player that I

51:25 liked on tape and I think the landing spot's better than people are expecting.

51:29 All right, let's get one more round here.

51:31 Jacob your last rookie gem for today's show.

51:34 Of course you can hear more on the on the box

51:35 score but this will be your fourth.

51:37 Go for it.

51:38 He's going deep for this one.

51:40 Braxton Thompson man he's electric.

51:42 He's so much fun and Mike Mike McDaniel was just absolutely fired up to get him.

51:48 Perfect perfect pairing there a team that needed some speed on the perimeter.

51:52 They've got some fast players but he's a true true deep

51:55 ball threat deep ball winner absolutely great ball tracking and hands.

52:00 Really really loved this guy's film.

52:01 I don't expect it to matter much in year one but I do think that he could

52:07 be one injury away and if he gets on the field he's going to make big plays.

52:10 They've already talked about wanting to get him on the field

52:12 as a returner and stuff like that and I

52:14 do think they'll occasionally get on the field just

52:16 to to threaten the defense because the speed is very very real.

52:19 He was just consistently toasting SEC corners last year at Mississippi

52:24 State averaged over three yards per route run and I think he

52:26 can do a little bit more beyond that too in terms

52:28 of like breaking his routes horizontally and winning to the sideline and stuff.

52:32 And so I'm really excited about the pairing with Justin Herbert and his ability

52:34 to throw with timing and throw with touch over the middle of the field.

52:38 If we get a chance to actually see Thompson get to play I think could be huge.

52:42 Who would you like better long term Trey Harris or Brennan?

52:47 I'll go with Trey Harris he seems more likely to matter

52:50 for fantasy purposes long term because he can do a number of things.

52:53 He's a bigger physical guy he can stay on the field because of his blocking.

52:56 They did invest a round two pick into him.

52:58 For Thompson it's like the the number of guys who play the way that he plays

53:03 and are at the weight that he is that have mattered is not a long one.

53:08 So I was intrigued because I loved his film so much

53:10 and then he gets the pairing with Herbert and McDaniel and everything

53:12 so it's like okay maybe he could be one of the outliers

53:15 that joins this group but he does have to be an outlier.

53:18 Yeah Brennan Thompson 5'9" 164 lbs couple guys

53:22 that were similar in size Marquise Brown and Tank Dell.

53:26 Brown had two seasons with about 1,100 yards at Oklahoma.

53:30 Dell had two seasons with more than 1,300 yards.

53:33 Thompson was at nearly as productive as best season last year 1,054 yards

53:40 and six touchdowns but his first three seasons he had a combined 503 yards.

53:44 So it didn't really work for him until he moved to Mississippi State.

53:47 Also we just had Dan with a frozen face was the best frozen face ever.

53:56 [laughter] That's awesome.

53:59 [clears throat] Thomas how did you do that so fast?

54:00 That was incredible.

54:01 Honestly.

54:03 I'm a big AI guy.

54:04 Yeah I got to get into AI.

54:06 Yeah do you know that movie?

54:08 That's isn't that just Game of Thrones or no

54:10 no no that's that's Jack Nicholson the shining.

54:13 Yeah wow.

54:15 Nice.

54:15 thought I'd get that.

54:16 What were the chances if you had to guess before I could snap

54:18 that off so fast what chances of me getting that were what were they?

54:21 Plus 600.

54:23 Yeah at a minimum.

54:23 Especially when you started with the Game of Thrones.

54:27 [laughter] Dan thinks everything is Game of Thrones.

54:30 All right Dan your last rookie gem.

54:34 [laughter] So how deep do we want to go?

54:35 I have three tiers here.

54:36 We can go through the deepest tier

54:38 the second deepest tier or the shallowest tier.

54:42 Uh If if we can and maybe this makes this decision easier at the end I'd

54:45 like to just rattle off some random names and just like just the name like keep

54:49 an eye on this guy like Jack Endries

54:52 for the you know Cincinnati Bengals round seven

54:55 tight end and stuff like that where it's

54:56 like I actually think he could play this year.

54:57 It's not a long list.

54:59 All right fine.

55:00 Also Dan said Jack Nicklaus instead of Jack Nicholson.

55:03 I I never heard it right either so I'm not

55:05 going to have too much golf going on in my brain.

55:08 Never get that right.

55:09 All right go ahead you pick one and then

55:10 we'll go rapid fire with the list after.

55:13 Okay I I don't that really didn't answer anything as far as

55:16 Just pick your favorite because we're going to be able to cover all of them so

55:19 just pick your favorite and then I'll be

55:19 like John Michael Gillenborg at the end you know.

55:22 Okay.

55:22 My favorite then will be Eli Rerdon the tight end the Patriots drafted.

55:25 This is just the absolute best landing spot for this player.

55:28 We were all talking pre-draft about he's got the length he's got

55:32 the traits to maybe run the seam and what team could actually use

55:35 him in this way and it's so Josh McDaniels like this is

55:39 not Rob Gronkowski but he's certainly

55:40 got closest thing to Rob Gronkowski's frame

55:43 that 6'7" lengthy body that McDaniels had to work with since Rob Gronkowski

55:47 and he's got some explosive traits and he has some moments on film

55:50 where you're like all right this guy is a big time receiving

55:52 profile but mostly he's got that blocking profile that will never go away.

55:56 You watch him block down on ends.

55:57 He'll be in for 90% of the snaps in no time in New England and when he's

56:01 on the field he could ultimately become a red zone

56:03 guy he could become a big seam stretcher for them.

56:06 He's got Drake May one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL

56:08 to me by far as far as throwing the football.

56:10 I don't even think it's close at this point.

56:12 There's only like a few guys in his tier as far as throwing the ball and keeping

56:15 an offense on time and racking up passing yards so it's an awesome fit for me

56:20 in all ways and I think the talent in the player is good held back a little

56:23 bit by the Notre Dame scheme by this quarterback

56:26 play even though they had Carr last year.

56:28 Just feel like this is a team that I mean

56:30 this is a player that could really shine in this situation.

56:34 Okay let's go rapid fire Jacob.

56:36 All right two guys for the Bengals just

56:39 good offense decent talents just the tight end Jack

56:41 Endries round seven and then Colby Young was

56:43 a favorite of Dan's really rangy athlete both worth knowing.

56:46 Four guys who could win the slot role for their offenses Zach Kumerow Branch

56:50 for the Falcons Jeremy Bernard for the Steelers

56:53 both really good with the ball in their hands.

56:56 Elijah Sorat is a favorite of Dan and mine.

56:58 And then Malachi Fields.

57:00 So Sorat's with Baltimore Fields is with the Giants those are two

57:02 bigger bodied guys that could get on the field and could you know

57:06 get you some get you some PPR points if need be if

57:08 something were to happen to the top receivers in their offense for example.

57:11 Ketron Allen was a really good call out we already talked about.

57:14 For Miami they've got Caleb Douglas and Kevin Coleman Jr.

57:17 are two rookies to know round three round five picks.

57:20 Kevin Coleman Jr.

57:21 is more of the manufactured touch type of slot player

57:23 like Malik Washington so I doubt that we see him much.

57:26 Caleb Douglas is kind of like Colby

57:28 Young bigger rangier athlete probably pretty raw.

57:30 I don't think either of them will probably matter but they are names to know.

57:33 Taylen Green is definitely a name to know

57:35 with all the ambiguity about what's going to happen

57:38 with the Cleveland Browns because if he gets on the field

57:40 he has the rushing upside to be fantasy relevant.

57:43 And then I also think Oscar Delp is a really good

57:45 call out I'll end with him for the New Orleans Saints.

57:47 I doubt that he matters much but they really love him

57:50 and they've talked about using him in line and having somebody

57:52 having him as somebody that can be on the field all

57:54 the time and he's really good with the ball in his hands.

57:57 Really good athlete so there's a potential you

57:59 know I I want to bet on Kyler Murray's

58:00 offense there's potential that he does get unlocked

58:03 in year one so keep an eye on him.

58:04 Mingo is one of my favorites.

58:06 I just think that it's it's it's almost

58:08 like Anthony Williams light like just great opportunity.

58:10 There's not a lot of competition for receivers there.

58:14 He's going to be fun with the ball in his hands.

58:15 It's just a matter of you know what we see

58:19 from Tua or Penix off injury in this offense but I

58:23 mean you look at it you got Mundin Pitts Bijan you

58:26 know will he get 100 targets again like there's nobody else.

58:30 People are making fun of me for the rapid fire

58:32 like that that was like two minutes or something right?

58:34 That's amazing rapid fire for me.

58:36 Rapid fire for me is normally 10 minutes.

58:38 No that was very good rapid fire.

58:39 Very good very efficient and Anthony you

58:42 called Zach Kumerow Branch Anthony Williams light.

58:44 That's quite literally he's 3 inches shorter he's 10 lbs lighter.

58:48 Tua?

58:49 They're you know similar.

58:51 The player who I think is actually Anthony

58:52 Williams light is Cyrus Allen for the Chiefs

58:54 round five draft pick who can be like a real route winner from the inside.

58:57 They don't ever draft guys like this who can beat man coverage and stuff.

59:00 They do always draft guys who have to play

59:02 in the slot which appears to be what they have again here.

59:04 So I don't think he'll matter but if something were to like happen to Rashee

59:07 Rice or something then he's a name

59:09 worth knowing round five pick out of Cincinnati.

59:10 that call.

59:11 All right.

59:12 Adam did you notice anything different about my background by the way today?

59:14 I've been meaning to ask you this.

59:17 Five or six Giants things instead of three?

59:20 No.

59:22 Tennis racket.

59:23 Oh yeah this was meant to this was meant to intimidate all Adam.

59:27 Awesome.

59:30 [laughter]

59:28 Bad boy on to intimidate him work on I wouldn't I would not play you right now.

59:33 It would be it would be fun.

59:35 Since since you're already on the move open the fridge.

59:36 Let's see what's No, we're not open.

59:41 Never do that on this show.

59:43 By the way making excuses already you injured or something?

59:46 The No, I'm just not playing well right now.

59:48 I am injured.

59:49 I am quite injured but uh that's And you know

59:51 that he's reading books about tennis now to get his game Oh,

59:54 you're you're into tennis books now.

59:55 Trust me, I've gone down that same path with golf.

59:57 It's not very fruitful.

59:58 I've read two golf books.

59:59 They didn't help me at all.

1:00:00 Have you ever read the inner game of tennis?

1:00:02 No, who's what's what's No.

1:00:04 It's about the mental approach of to That's cool.

1:00:07 That's something you need to improve on.

1:00:08 Yeah, I know I have so far.

1:00:10 Um Uh what was I going to say?

1:00:13 Uh Open the fridge then.

1:00:13 Come on.

1:00:14 Open the fridge.

1:00:14 No more.

1:00:15 No more of that.

1:00:16 Do you have any more names you want to rattle off Dan?

1:00:18 Um freezer you're already cold.

1:00:20 Jacob hit Kobe Young.

1:00:21 Jacob hit a couple of my deep sleepers Jay Michael Sturdivant.

1:00:24 Uh Sturdivant Sturdivant Sturdivant And I did I did not talk about him at all.

1:00:28 He's Green Bay Packers UDFA.

1:00:30 Play the Dan line.

1:00:30 Green Bay Packers UDFA.

1:00:32 One of the better route vertical route winners that I

1:00:34 watched in this class especially during his time at UCLA.

1:00:37 Really like that.

1:00:38 I'll give one really deep one.

1:00:39 Marlon Klein a player who I said

1:00:41 in our sleepers podcast before I thought he'd be

1:00:43 a sixth round pick seventh round pick had no

1:00:45 production in Michigan but just looked awesome movement wise.

1:00:48 And then the Texans made him what a second round pick?

1:00:50 I think it was.

1:00:51 I was going to say he's he's drafted

1:00:52 higher than anyone we've talked about so far.

1:00:54 Yeah.

1:00:55 Um and I don't I think he's essentially what we've

1:00:58 been betting on working at tight end fantasy for a while.

1:01:01 It's bet on trades.

1:01:01 That's what tight end has been in fantasy for the last three four five years.

1:01:05 So it's another bet on trades guy.

1:01:06 I wouldn't be shocked if he gets a role earlier than

1:01:08 people think and he could be really good after the catch.

1:01:11 Yeah.

1:01:12 What if what if our audience guesses what's

1:01:14 in your refrigerator and you have to show it?

1:01:16 Jamie, you're so focused on this we're not doing that ever again.

1:01:18 It was a mistake to ever do it and it's never happening again.

1:01:21 Oh, I I know what I was going to say.

1:01:22 The the we had a listener whole pack of xiamen there.

1:01:26 who also refrigerates peanut butter cuz that's what Dan does.

1:01:29 It's good.

1:01:30 It's not it's not that crazy.

1:01:31 It's not that weird.

1:01:31 It tastes better.

1:01:32 His name is Dan also.

1:01:34 He is He is the best tennis player I've ever like seen.

1:01:39 I mean like our level.

1:01:41 He's What do you mean at our level?

1:01:43 He couldn't be at our level.

1:01:44 You would say he's probably a 5.0.

1:01:46 He's a 4.0.

1:01:47 He's not like a former college 4.0 anything.

1:01:49 Yeah, but he would destroy you.

1:01:50 He he kills everyone.

1:01:51 destroy me if he's a 4.0.

1:01:52 He you would you would maybe would I'm way closer to 4.5 than 4.0.

1:01:57 No, you're not.

1:01:58 Yes, I am.

1:01:58 Cuz if you were 4.5 I wouldn't I wouldn't either.

1:02:00 I'd be I wouldn't So Adam are those the only You wouldn't what Adam?

1:02:03 You wouldn't what?

1:02:04 I wouldn't be able to compete with you.

1:02:05 You're not you're not.

1:02:06 You lost 6-0 in the first set and then beat me when

1:02:08 I was [laughter] tired and barely could even like catch a breath.

1:02:11 You didn't beat me.

1:02:12 You got four games in the second set when I could barely catch a breath.

1:02:14 You lost the first set 6-0.

1:02:16 Year before was what?

1:02:16 6-0 6-2?

1:02:18 Uh Yes, it was 6-0 6-2.

1:02:20 Yeah, no back then it was 6-0 6-2 6-0 and then You

1:02:24 know if I won that second set I was winning the tiebreaker.

1:02:26 You know it.

1:02:27 Obviously I could barely move out there bud.

1:02:29 You're 4.5 and you can barely move?

1:02:31 4.5 and you can barely It's a conditioning issue.

1:02:33 It's a conditioning issue.

1:02:34 I'm Eddie Lacy.

1:02:34 I'm the Eddie Lacy of tennis.

1:02:36 What uh It's nothing to do with my skill set.

1:02:38 It's his conditioning issue.

1:02:39 Adam are those the only two people you know that refrigerate peanut butter?

1:02:42 Yes.

1:02:43 So then you probably saw My peanut butter's in my fridge.

1:02:46 You're right Jamie that I should Your peanut butter's in your fridge too?

1:02:49 What the hell is wrong with you people?

1:02:51 It's disgusting.

1:02:53 [laughter] It's because they're eating peanut butter

1:02:55 that doesn't have seed oils in it Adam.

1:02:56 Come on now.

1:02:58 I don't whatever the case is I What What is that?

1:03:01 I wanted to go on this rant at some point.

1:03:02 Why do people buy the stir peanut butter?

1:03:05 What is the benefit to that?

1:03:08 There's It stir.

1:03:10 Yeah, the one that's like liquidy and you have to stir it.

1:03:12 Who would choose that?

1:03:13 I accidentally bought it That's all peanut butter dude.

1:03:17 That's that's that's the peanut butter you have to buy.

1:03:20 It's exactly the same as the no stir the one I bought.

1:03:22 Look the the It just it doesn't have the words no stir on it.

1:03:25 So I accidentally bought it.

1:03:26 And it's like what what is the purpose of this?

1:03:28 It doesn't taste as good.

1:03:30 You there's effort that you have to put into it.

1:03:32 I don't know who would choose stir peanut butter.

1:03:34 You can't see because the shirt matches the chair

1:03:36 but his shoulders are so high right now.

1:03:38 Thomas, isn't Is it Jamie correct me if I'm wrong.

1:03:41 Oh my god.

1:03:43 [laughter]

1:03:46 Uh for those who aren't listening just another shining picture of me AI'd

1:03:51 in but I think the only healthy peanut butter is the stir peanut butter.

1:03:55 No.

1:03:56 I'm pretty sure.

1:03:56 Thomas correct me if I'm wrong.

1:03:58 I'm pretty sure.

1:03:59 If you don't have stir peanut butter that means there's just a bunch

1:04:01 of junk oil in it that makes it so it doesn't stir.

1:04:04 Not if you get You're not a good tennis player Adam.

1:04:06 Cuz I don't He's eating junk peanut He's

1:04:08 just eating junk and he doesn't realize it.

1:04:10 He's like I don't want to stir.

1:04:12 All right, you want to read some emails real quick?

1:04:13 Let's go.

1:04:13 Let's finish up here.

1:04:15 Uh from Owen in Chester Virginia.

1:04:18 Dear Arch, Julian and Dante.

1:04:21 These are upcoming quarterbacks.

1:04:24 Okay.

1:04:25 Who's Dante?

1:04:27 Uh Julian saying Arch Manning Dante Dante Moore from Oregon.

1:04:31 Dante Moore.

1:04:32 Okay.

1:04:33 Uh 12 team superflex dynasty league.

1:04:35 I finished second last year.

1:04:37 I'm in contention mode.

1:04:38 I have a young team.

1:04:39 I have picks 110 111 25 and 29.

1:04:43 Um considering how awful this year's class appears to be and how

1:04:46 good next year's is supposed to be would it be crazy

1:04:48 to try to package picks [snorts and clears throat] 110 111

1:04:51 25 and 29 for a first and second round pick next year.

1:04:56 He's a contender now?

1:04:57 Yeah.

1:04:58 I would.

1:05:00 Maybe not all of them but I I would consider it.

1:05:05 [snorts] Yeah, you just worry about the names that were giving uh who's going

1:05:06 to be available to you at 110 111 like De'Shawn Stribling and Antonio Williams.

1:05:12 So I think I'd probably It's a superflex dynasty league.

1:05:15 Next year they're going to be so many

1:05:16 quarterbacks that are going to be I'd do it.

1:05:20 Here's a keeper question from Josh.

1:05:23 Uh 12 team half PPR superflex keep four.

1:05:27 Superflex okay?

1:05:28 Olave in the sixth Evans in the seventh Purdy in the 10th

1:05:34 Dart in the 14th Fan in 16th but Baker Mayfield There it is.

1:05:43 Baker Mayfield 17th Bucky Irving 18th.

1:05:46 You can keep how many?

1:05:48 You can keep [snorts] four.

1:05:49 Purdy and Dart for sure.

1:05:51 Yeah, that's obvious.

1:05:52 I would go Bucky and Olave.

1:05:56 What was the round for Bucky?

1:05:57 Bucky's 18th round.

1:05:59 Yeah.

1:06:00 Yeah, Bucky for sure based on that and then it's either Olave or Evans.

1:06:06 I think I would go Evans.

1:06:07 I'm just super high on Evans this year though.

1:06:10 Is it Is Purdy in the 10th better than Bucky than Baker Mayfield in the 17th?

1:06:14 You could keep all three quarterbacks if you if you

1:06:16 want to be a jerk and go some game theory.

1:06:19 This is a weird league man though.

1:06:21 Like it doesn't really make any sense to me.

1:06:22 Like in what world was Baker available to get as a 17th round keeper?

1:06:27 That doesn't add up unless somebody like cut

1:06:29 him because the injury and then it's like you

1:06:31 you didn't do the rules right because you

1:06:33 allowed it to go to the free agent guys.

1:06:35 This is a really poorly set up league I hate to say and I hate to be that guy.

1:06:38 You can keep these guys forever though.

1:06:39 That's the question.

1:06:39 That's what it looks like.

1:06:40 Then that's even that's not good.

1:06:42 Then you may have gotten Baker when he was not sure on the league.

1:06:45 Yeah, that's not good either.

1:06:47 I don't know.

1:06:47 17 Baker just rough to see.

1:06:49 Makes no sense.

1:06:50 Last one.

1:06:52 I just read that apparently Brendan Soresby may enter

1:06:55 the supplemental draft in July because of his gambling investigation.

1:06:59 This would mean he gets drafted in July and according to reports he

1:07:02 would have been in the discussion with Mendoza for QB1 or two this year.

1:07:05 How do we even handle this for a superflex

1:07:07 rookie draft that is if it has already started?

1:07:11 Interesting Adam.

1:07:13 I mean think about it.

1:07:14 I don't Is he even I don't think he's

1:07:15 even available in the player pool for most places.

1:07:18 draft him now because he's not technically in the NFL.

1:07:23 It is a good question though as far as like what

1:07:25 your league would I think he would just hit free agency.

1:07:27 Yeah, I I mean like I know how Heath

1:07:29 does his uh Yolo Dynasty League where post draft he

1:07:34 just freezes transactions and then we have a free

1:07:37 agent bidding process right before the start of the season.

1:07:40 So you would just have to pick him up then.

1:07:43 Adam's draft will just allow him to be selected at the time of the draft.

1:07:48 Yeah, because it's He's going to be

1:07:49 free agent for anybody doing rookie drafts now.

1:07:51 It it this is why you don't draft early because

1:07:53 people get investigated for gambling and end up in the supplemental

1:07:57 [laughter] [gasps] I yeah, I think the the freeze makes sense.

1:08:01 For the you talking about Dan?

1:08:03 Yeah.

1:08:07 [laughter] All right.

1:08:07 Well, I I I have to sneeze and blow my nose.

1:08:09 So I'm going to end the show.

1:08:10 Thank you to the Beyond the Box Score crew.

1:08:12 Remember to email Dave Richard at drichard@cbs.com if you

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1:08:20 Ooh.

1:08:21 Uh send him an email.

1:08:22 We'll talk to you on Monday on Fantasy Football Today.

1:08:24 See you.

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