Why are the Wellness Elite Getting Sepsis? | Mark Hyman and Jordan Peterson

0:00 This is Mark Heyman.

0:01 We can reprogram our genes back to a younger you.

0:04 And I could literally when I'm 63, turn my biological clock back to 25.

0:09 Make my wrinkles go away, my hair turn black,

0:11 my joints get healthier, my, you know, everything.

0:14 And this is Jordan Peterson.

0:17 I went to the temple of Eskeipius in Greece recently.

0:21 They actually had people sit and dream in rooms full of snakes.

0:28 When I went to that temple, I thought these people were more sophisticated

0:31 than we are in their approach to disease.

0:34 You might know Mark Heman from his constant

0:36 shilling of an alternative medicine program called functional

0:39 medicine that involves selling a rotating slate

0:42 of longevity supplements aimed to stop or reverse aging.

0:46 Meanwhile, Jordan Peterson is a pop psychologist who

0:49 promotes anti-wokeness as a key to mental well-being.

0:53 I don't think I've ever seen anyone who was canceled who didn't respond

0:56 to it about the same way that people respond to a near fatal illness.

1:01 In addition to their unorthodox approaches to human health,

1:05 they share three other things in common.

1:08 First, both men sought relief for decades

1:10 of debilitating back pain outside the traditional medical system.

1:15 And second, in the last year and a half,

1:17 both of them were hospitalized for sepsis

1:20 because I almost died.

1:22 Yeah, it was really extreme.

1:24 Dad was in an ICU suffering from pneumonia and sepsis

1:28 after dealing with a host of neurological issues this summer.

1:32 While Heyman seems to have recovered, Peterson is still out of the public eye.

1:36 And it's unclear whether he will ever come back.

1:40 In this video, I'm going to tell you why

1:42 I think their cases are even more connected than that.

1:46 Because the third thing they have in common

1:48 is that they also share the same doctor.

1:51 Adil Khan, a regenerative medicine physician who

1:54 runs a string of clinics out of Mexico, Dubai, Japan, Lithuania,

1:58 and is in the process of opening up more inside the United States.

2:02 You would be forgiven if you've never heard of Khan before,

2:06 but he is nothing less than the stem cell doctor to the stars.

2:10 His patients include everyone from the Kardashians.

2:13 Why did Kim and Khloe Kardashian come to us for stem cell treatments

2:17 to Tony Robbins?

2:18 I saw Dr.

2:19 Khan because I had to have surgery and Dr.

2:20 Khan brought me some of the latest technology in that area

2:23 and it immediately reduced both the pain but also the inflammation.

2:27 So it's no surprise that Heyman and Peterson fit in on his roster.

2:31 Well, the main reason I'm seeing Dr.

2:32 Khan is to deal with chronic uh disc degeneration and disc herniations.

2:37 Now you're going to treat me for something tomorrow as I understand.

2:40 So exactly what are you planning to do to me?

2:42 Well, as you have talked about publicly, you have toxic mold.

2:46 When I began investigating this almost two months ago,

2:49 my vision was that this was going to be a pretty straightforward topic.

2:52 A couple of wellness grifters getting a taste of their own bad medicine.

2:56 But the more I dug, the more this story consumed my life.

3:00 And there is too much of it for me to fit into one video.

3:04 So, I'm breaking into three parts.

3:06 In this series, I'm going to tell you

3:07 the never-before-ed story about how two of the most

3:10 prominent wellness influencers in the world promoted Khan's dubious

3:14 stem cell therapies and then tried it on themselves.

3:18 While Peterson's case is unique and will

3:20 require a whole episode just on its own,

3:23 Heyman and Khan are public medical professionals on the fringes

3:27 of medical science who have taken great pains

3:29 to keep this story under wraps because it exposes

3:33 the secrets and hypocrisies of their interrelated wellness grifts.

3:37 Indeed, Hyman is so committed to his grift pipeline that even

3:41 when the treatments he promoted on his podcasts almost got him killed,

3:46 he kept his silence because he would rather see his audience

3:48 and even himself hurt than say anything that undermines his bottom line.

3:54 I've pieced this story together through their own social

3:57 media posts and tracked down media that they've taken offline.

4:00 I've interviewed multiple experts and spoken with confidential

4:04 sources on the inside who confirmed my suspicions.

4:07 Still, it's important to note that I

4:10 haven't directly inspected their medical records,

4:13 which means that the conclusions that I

4:14 reach here are at least somewhat circumstantial,

4:18 which brings me to the important legal

4:21 disclaimer that I've got to run right now.

4:23 Everything I say on this channel and in this video

4:26 series specifically is my opinion based on my own investigative work.

4:31 References to scams and fraud and lies and related terms should

4:35 not be taken as definitive findings of fact or legal conclusions.

4:41 I've used publicly available information on and off thereord

4:44 interviews and independent analysis to draw my strongly opinionated conclusions.

4:51 There's a sharp distinction though to be made between facts

4:54 and evidence presented and the opinions that I draw on that material.

4:59 No statement can or should be interpreted as a categorical declaration that any

5:04 person has violated civil or criminal law unless a court has so ruled.

5:10 I encourage viewers to examine my materials and reach their own conclusions.

5:15 Indeed, Adal Khan's legal team has already been in touch,

5:18 and I'm going to go over their increasingly threatening

5:22 and frankly contradictory statements a little down the line.

5:26 Suffice it to say, this video series is going to cover a lot of ground,

5:30 not only examining what we know about

5:31 the medical conditions of these health influencers,

5:34 but the promising yet grift ridden field of regenerative medicine.

5:39 There are a lot of moving parts,

5:41 but it's going to make a lot of sense when you get to the end.

5:44 So, please stay for all three videos.

5:54 The easiest place to start is with Mark Heyman.

5:57 Heyman is the foremost proponent of the functional medicine

6:01 paradigm and a 12time New York Times best-selling author.

6:04 Now, if you've heard someone announce that food is medicine,

6:08 or that some combination of supplements, exercise,

6:10 and lifestyle changes along with extensive clinical testing can prevent disease,

6:15 from autoimmune illnesses to cancer and Alzheimer's before they ever develop.

6:20 It probably all goes back to him.

6:23 He is notable in the longevity world for suggesting

6:25 that people can reverse their own biological age and become,

6:29 as the title of his book puts it, forever young.

6:33 Which is why it's surprising that earlier this year,

6:35 Hyman dropped a bombshell on J.

6:38 Shetty's on purpose podcast.

6:40 We actually had a date scheduled for you to be on the show.

6:44 Yeah.

6:44 And then I sadly learned from your team.

6:47 Yeah.

6:46 That it had to be cancelled, but it was for

6:50 cuz I almost died.

6:52 Yeah.

6:52 It was really extreme.

6:54 Yeah.

6:54 Talk to us about this near-death experience because

6:56 I've known you to be a longevity expert, a health expert.

7:00 the work that you do,

7:01 it impacts millions of people worldwide

7:04 and then you have a near-death experience.

7:06 Now, I've done videos on J.

7:07 Shetty before, and one thing that's important to keep in mind is

7:10 that he's the sort of podcaster who will never ask a tough question.

7:14 He offers a perfect platform for someone to spin

7:17 a story of dismal failure into a victory lap.

7:20 And in this case, Hyman is going to explain how his own health

7:24 problems kept him out of the public eye for almost half a year.

7:27 I joke that my biological age is 39, but my back age is 139.

7:33 This little line, it is surprisingly important because he's asking the viewer

7:38 to accept one of the most insane propositions in modern medicine.

7:42 Mark Heyman, who is 66 years old and frankly looks it wants

7:47 the viewer to believe that despite what they are seeing on the screen,

7:50 that he is in fact biologically just 39 years old.

7:55 Now, I couldn't find a photo of Heyman

7:57 from 1999 when he was actually 39 years old,

8:00 but here he is in 2010 at 49 posing with Bill Clinton.

8:06 He also posted this pic on his Instagram comparing what he claimed was

8:11 him in 1999 to what looks like a testosterone infused older self in 2021.

8:18 I think it's pretty clear that he has in fact aged at a reasonably normal rate.

8:24 all things considered.

8:25 Yet at the same time, he is also saying that different parts of his body can age

8:30 at different rates and that his back is in particular a total mess.

8:36 And yeah, Hyman is proficient in mental gymnastics, too.

8:41 Here's how he describes how he got that injury to J.

8:45 Shetty.

8:45 When I was 32, I lived in Idaho in a logging town.

8:48 when I was chopping wood and carrying heavy wood and I ruptured a disc

8:52 and it it basically caused massive damage

8:56 and a permanent paralysis of my right calf.

8:59 So, I've limped for 30 odd years and my back's just degenerated.

9:03 This injury origin story is fascinating to me because in the last few years,

9:08 chopping wood has been lauded as a life hack to boost testosterone.

9:13 If I woke up tomorrow morning and I opened the blinds like

9:16 I do every morning and I looked down and you were chopping wood,

9:20 I would be so turned on.

9:22 I think he has to tell the story this way in order to certify

9:25 his credentials as some sort of uber man in touch with his primal nature.

9:30 Just like in this classic Rocky for training montage,

9:39 the story basically suggests that he broke

9:41 his back because he was just too manly.

9:44 Be that as it may, according to his biography,

9:47 he was not actually a lumberjack at the time.

9:50 He was a small town doctor without many prospects.

9:54 A few years later, he moved to Massachusetts to work in an emergency room before

9:58 he joined the wellness revolution as the co-director

10:01 of a storied health spa called Canyon Ranch.

10:04 And once he became fluent in spa lingo,

10:06 he left to found the Ultra Wellness Center in Lennox,

10:10 Massachusetts, and began writing best-selling top pop health books.

10:14 In 2010, he even teamed up with the Christian

10:17 pastor Rick Warren of the Saddleback Church

10:19 as the third author on the number one

10:22 best-selling Christian book of 20203 called The Daniel Plan.

10:27 As nearly half of all Americans suffer from a chronic disease

10:30 that inspired Pastor Rick Warren of Saddleback Church to join forces with Dr.

10:35 Daniel Aemon and Dr.

10:36 Mark Heyman to create the Daniel Plan, 40 days to a healthier life.

10:41 That book emphasized how spiritual fitness

10:44 and careful nutrition can lead to physical health.

10:47 And while he doesn't stick exclusively to Christian talking points,

10:51 the message is the same in most of his books.

10:54 Health is as much a spiritual force as a physical one.

10:57 Anyway, you get the idea.

11:00 Let's return to his injured back.

11:02 And I developed, you know, a lot of degenerative disc disease.

11:04 And so I've had a lot of back pain.

11:06 And I ended up having an injection,

11:08 which is pretty common treatment to help relieve pain.

11:11 And one of the risks of injections of any needle is infection.

11:15 That sentence, it's doing a lot of work considering how

11:19 important that shot turns out to be to his life's trajectory.

11:24 Notice how he is being incredibly cy about what injection he actually got.

11:29 I'm going to reveal exactly what that shot was in a second,

11:32 but let's let him finish out the story first.

11:36 And in a closed space of the spine,

11:37 it just took off and very quickly within a couple of days, I couldn't walk.

11:42 Uh within a week, I had surgery.

11:44 They opened me up.

11:44 They closed me up because they couldn't reach the abscess.

11:47 It was on the front.

11:49 And they said, "Uh, we can't do anything." And basically left me to die.

11:54 Gave me antibiotics and said, "Cross your fingers and here's some painkillers."

11:58 They said there was no no cure.

12:01 This mystery shot kicked off a series of events

12:03 that was going to lead to his death.

12:06 But I have to ask you if you think that what he is saying really checks out.

12:10 Can you imagine that any doctor in the world

12:13 would just shrug their shoulders and leave Mark Heyman,

12:16 a man with near infinite social media reach and likely the ability

12:20 to ruin a doctor's medical practice with a single social media post to die?

12:25 I mean, if it's true,

12:26 it's a stunning level of both incompetence and malpractice.

12:30 But his next statement is even weirder.

12:33 Then a friend of mine was uh a doctor called me.

12:35 He said, "What's happened?

12:36 I heard you're sick." And I told him, he says, "You need a second opinion." So,

12:38 I got an opinion from the top neuros surgery center in the world in UCSF.

12:42 Again, does it make sense that Mark Heyman, himself,

12:45 a doctor whose entire career is based

12:48 on giving second opinions to mainstream medicine,

12:51 needed a friend to tell him to go and seek one out.

12:54 and they said get out here right away.

12:55 So I took a ambulance jet a and had s

13:00 another surgery a month later that was really relieved the abscess.

13:03 But in that intervening period I got septic.

13:06 I was feverish.

13:07 I lost 25 lbs from where I am now.

13:10 I was in bed.

13:11 I couldn't eat sitting up.

13:13 I literally had to lay down with four pillows under my leg.

13:16 And after the surgery, thank God it worked.

13:18 But it was a it was a Hail Mary surgery.

13:19 And they said I was maybe a couple of days away from dying.

13:22 And I remember, you know,

13:23 going under anesthesia on the day of the second surgery and I was like,

13:27 this could be my last moment of consciousness.

13:30 It sounds like a pretty close call.

13:31 And I'm glad that he could get the acute

13:33 care that he needed from a worldclass alopathic hospital.

13:37 His narrative, of course,

13:38 ends with him not really acknowledging the medicine that saved him,

13:42 but instead cast himself as the hero,

13:46 using his own knowledge of wellness physiology to come

13:49 back to the man that he is today.

13:51 In the aftermath of that, you know, I had to sort of I was on a walker.

13:55 I couldn't stand up.

13:56 I couldn't brush my own teeth.

13:58 I couldn't wipe my own ass.

13:59 Like, it was like it was bad.

14:02 And I had to depend on other people.

14:04 But slowly, you know, just determined, I clawed my way back to health and using

14:10 every principle that I know of how to create health.

14:12 And I'm 65.

14:13 I'm not a spring chicken.

14:14 And I I know what to do.

14:17 And I did it.

14:18 and it and I wasn't sure if it was going to work at 65.

14:20 You know, how much can you get back?

14:22 The whole hourong interview just continues Heyman's own hey geography,

14:26 but it's what he doesn't say that is the most important part.

14:31 What was the actual cause of his illness?

14:33 At the time, back at the end of 2024,

14:36 a lot of people were reaching out to me privately in my DM

14:40 saying that I had to investigate these rumors of Heyman sepsis.

14:44 They were talking about it behind closed doors.

14:47 His social media presence had gone on autopilot

14:50 and he was cancelling speaking engagements during his recovery.

14:53 But honestly, I didn't put much thought into it.

14:57 Indeed, he correctly states to Shetty that any

14:59 injection does carry a certain risk of infection.

15:02 But there was something about how evasive

15:05 Heyman was actually talking about the shot

15:08 that kicked off the whole affair on Cheddy's

15:09 podcast that made me take a second look.

15:12 What was he hiding?

15:14 I mean, just asking that question led me down quite a rabbit hole.

15:19 On face value, the most obvious shot would be a cortisone injection,

15:23 a type of steroid which can often reduce back pain in the short term.

15:27 However, Heyman notably positions himself

15:29 in opposition to standard pharmaceutical interventions.

15:32 It was simply more likely that he was following

15:35 the sorts of protocols that he promotes in his books.

15:38 But admitting that one of the treatments that he publicly supports

15:42 almost killed him could discredit him in the eyes of his fans.

15:47 Now, I was talking to some people in my social

15:49 network and one person who I'm not going to name told me that they had heard

15:53 that he'd gotten the injection from a clinic in Mexico.

15:57 Furthermore, they said that the clinic had gone into emergency

16:00 mode to control the story before it got out.

16:03 Now, while my contact didn't know which clinic it was specifically,

16:07 that tip was enough to land me on the doorstep of a deal Khan,

16:11 a doctor who until that time I'd never heard of.

16:15 Here's a real that Khan posted in July 2024,

16:18 explaining a relationship with Hyman.

16:21 Well, the main reason I'm seeing Dr.

16:22 Khan is to deal with chronic uh disc degeneration and disc herniation.

16:26 So, hopefully that'll work and also just

16:28 a general stem cell tuneup and basically longevity treatments.

16:32 Okay, so it's the exact same condition

16:34 that Heyman had explained on Shetty's podcast.

16:37 So Mark Heyman has severe spinal canal stenosis, severe facet arthritis.

16:42 This means the spine is very degenerated and the only way to avoid surgery,

16:46 we had to use a combination of our engineered

16:49 muse stem cells and also muse exoomes.

16:52 These are engineered to survive better.

16:54 They're also engineered to be more potent and they

16:56 have a much better pur potent profile as well,

16:58 meaning they can differentiate into new types

17:00 of tissue better than regular umbilical core stem cells.

17:03 So, we injected them epidurally using catheterss.

17:05 We also injected them into the facet joints.

17:08 Bingo.

17:09 So, Khan's post described an injection into precisely the same spot

17:13 where that ball of infection at Hyman's spine began to spread.

17:17 This is a smoking gun, right?

17:20 Well, not exactly.

17:22 The dates don't quite match up.

17:25 Here's Heyman again.

17:26 It's only been seven months from the recording of this podcast.

17:30 Shed's podcast came out on August 18th, 2025.

17:34 And this reel was posted in July 2024, over a year earlier.

17:39 do a little math here and factor in a reasonable

17:41 lag between the recording and launch of Shett's

17:44 podcast and we come up with an approximate date

17:47 of that shot between October 2024 and February 2025.

17:54 So, I looked for any evidence that Heyman

17:56 had sought out a follow-up shot with Khan.

17:58 After all, according to the clinical literature on Muse stem cell injections,

18:03 patients often need more than just one.

18:06 And that's when I found this, a podcast that Heyman recorded with Khan

18:10 titled The Secret to Reversing Chronic Pain and Aging Before It's Too Late, Dr.

18:15 Adil Khan, dated November 2024, dead center into my target time frame.

18:21 And even more fascinating,

18:23 the podcast was no longer available on any platform on the internet.

18:29 Out of more than 1,000 episodes available

18:32 of Heyman's podcast on YouTube and Apple,

18:35 this was one of the only ones that had ever been taken offline.

18:40 Even the episode page and transcript had been wiped off of his site.

18:45 It looked like he was trying

18:47 to deliberately scrub this interview off the internet.

18:51 The only traces I could find remained

18:53 on the way back machine and now abandoned AI summaries.

18:57 And this is where you came in.

19:00 I posted about the missing interview on my YouTube notes section and one

19:04 of you viewers helped me get a hold of the missing MP3.

19:09 Here is Hyman talking to Adil Khan about his disc degeneration.

19:14 Deal.

19:15 Welcome to the Dr.

19:16 Podcast.

19:17 It's great to have you here.

19:18 Uh, last time I saw you was in Cabo when you're about to inject me with a bunch

19:23 of interesting compounds that are biological compounds they

19:28 use in regenerative medicine for my disc issues.

19:30 And I'd had, you know, steroid injections.

19:32 I'd had radio frequency ablation,

19:34 which I didn't know and at the time would cause secondary consequences

19:37 of damage to my back through damaging the muscles in my back.

19:41 And so, basically, I' I've really struggled.

19:44 And the only thing that's helped me take away my back pain

19:46 are um these compounds that are from this this toolkit of regenerative medicine.

19:52 All of this leads to my working hypothesis.

19:54 Heyman had been seeking various stem cell treatments from Adil Khan's clinic

19:59 in Cabo for his ongoing back pain since at least July 2024.

20:05 He would need multiple shots over time.

20:07 After he felt better after his first shot,

20:09 he decided to have Khan on his podcast

20:12 to spread the word about this miracle clinic.

20:15 On the podcast, they even mentioned opening up a business

20:17 together with a mutually branded clinic in Abu Dhabi.

20:21 We do have clinics in Los Cabos, Mexico,

20:23 which is probably closest for most of our US patients.

20:26 And then we have a clinic in Europe.

20:28 And then we have a partnership in Tokyo as well.

20:30 And then maybe uh Markman and I may

20:33 maybe we'll have something in Abu Dhabi soon.

20:36 But uh yeah, our our company is called Eterna, like Eternal without a L.

20:41 Khan has posted about the risks of stem

20:43 cell injections on his LinkedIn profile before,

20:46 noting that the shot is not the most dangerous part of the procedure,

20:50 especially in a well-run lab,

20:52 which begs the question about whether or not his lab is wellrun at all.

20:58 My guess is that right after recording the podcast,

21:01 Heyman got his follow-up treatment,

21:03 and then something went horribly wrong with the shot.

21:07 The needle introduced an infection,

21:09 and then Heyman's dreams of recovery transformed into a near-death experience.

21:15 This would explain why Heyman deleted all references

21:18 that he could find to Khan from his various feeds,

21:20 including a compilation on stem cells that appeared later

21:23 in 2025 that was put together by his team.

21:26 I presume.

21:28 Now, if I'm right here, then this is a really big problem.

21:32 I mean, someone could argue that Heyman is perfectly

21:34 within his rights to keep his medical history private.

21:38 That is the idea behind HIPPA, after all,

21:40 to stop doctors from releasing a person's own medical

21:42 records so that information can't be used against them.

21:47 However, I believe that the ethic does not apply in the case of a medical

21:51 influencer who uses their own personal health history

21:53 to sell multi-millions of dollars worth of supplements,

21:57 individual treatments, medical services,

22:00 and advice and direction to go seek treatment in other places.

22:04 As a public-f facing doctor appearing on podcasts that reach millions of people,

22:09 Heyman has the duty to tell the whole truth

22:13 about his medical experiences and not a highly curated spin.

22:18 The hypocratic oath states that doctors should do no harm and omitting

22:23 this key piece of information harms any patient who follows his recommendations.

22:29 Now, you could still argue perhaps I've gotten this all wrong.

22:34 The only way to know for sure is to see a medical record or hear

22:36 it from Heyman or Khan or someone else

22:38 with verifiably direct knowledge of Heyman's medical history.

22:43 Just maybe there's room to believe that he

22:45 got some other shot from some other provider.

22:49 If that's the case, well,

22:50 then he still should disclose the source of the thing that almost killed him.

22:55 But now, I want to pose a rhetorical question.

22:58 Would it actually be impossible for me to connect the dots

23:02 even more directly between Khan and Heyman's near fatal shot?

23:06 Considering my 25- year long career

23:08 as an investigative journalist uncovering health grifters and writing

23:11 an entire award-winning book that exposed

23:14 the reality of international criminal organ trafficking networks.

23:18 Would I give up trying to get even more evidence to confirm my hypothesis?

23:23 In one word, no.

23:26 I don't give up.

23:28 One thing I will say is that a deal con is a monster,

23:34 which I hope is a hell of a cliffhanger because this investigation is

23:37 just getting going because I'm not only

23:39 interested in Heyman's own personal medical drama.

23:42 I want to show you how this connects

23:43 the entire griverse of cuttingedge medical promises and hail

23:47 Mary clinical disasters that I believe also adds

23:51 important context to the disappearance of Jordan Peterson.

23:55 As this series continues, we're going to talk about both Peterson's declining

23:58 health and the degenerative medicine of Adil Khan,

24:02 the stem cell doctor to the stars.

24:05 And one reason I'm putting this out a week or so before

24:08 that video drops is because I think there's a chance that a little time

24:12 might allow more information to come in and perhaps Adil Khan or Mark

24:17 Heyman will finally respond to my messages to them and go on the record.

24:22 More likely though, some viewers like you could have their own information

24:26 about this Eterna Health Clinic or other similar stem cell clinics in Mexico.

24:32 And I want some time for those stories to come in.

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