Comparing the ideologies of Hitler, Mussolini and Mosley

Comparing the ideologies of Hitler, Mussolini and Mosley

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0:03 Quick disclaimer: I’m not a fascist, not  a nazi, not a racist, not anything else.  

0:08 Nor am I promoting these ideologies. The  point of this video is to educate ourselves,  

0:12 so we learn from history instead of repeating  it. On that note, I’ve done a lot of videos on  

0:18 Hitler and National Socialism. I’ve done a few  videos on Mussolini and Italian Fascism. And  

0:23 now I’m looking into Mosley’s British Fascism.  So far, I’ve discovered several differences in  

0:29 the doctrines between the three types of  ideology, so to kick-off a new series of  

0:34 videos on Mosley’s Fascism, I want to show  you those differences today using a chart.

0:40 So let’s start off with the real basics.  Hitler’s Party name was called the “National  

0:45 Socialist German Workers’ Party” - acronym:  NSDAP. Mussolini had the “National Fascist  

0:51 Party” (PNF). And Mosley had the “British  Union of Fascists” (the BUF), which later  

0:57 changed its name in 1936 to the “British  Union of Fascists and National Socialists”,  

1:04 and then in 1937 to the “British Union”. This name  change with Mosley is important because it shows  

1:11 that there is a separation between Fascism and  National Socialism, which should become apparent  

1:17 in this video, if it isn’t already. I have  an entire video dedicated to spelling out the  

1:22 differences, but we’ll do it here again because  some people don’t believe me for some reason.

1:27 When were these parties founded? Well,  the “German Workers’ Party” (the DAP) was  

1:33 founded in January 1919, and Hitler  joined it in the September of 1919.  

1:38 The name was then changed in 1920 to  the “National Socialist German Workers’  

1:43 Party” (NSDAP), but the name change aside,  it’s safe to say it was founded in 1919.

1:48 The first fascist trade unions were created in  October 1914 in Italy, with Mussolini joining  

1:56 them in December 1914. But Mussolini only founded  the Fascist Combat Movement in the March of 1919  

2:05 (which was after the German Workers’ Party  was created, I should add), and the Fascist  

2:11 Combat Movement only became an actual political  party - the National Fascist Party - in 1921.  

2:19 So yes, Hitler’s Party was already  a Party before Mussolini’s Fascists  

2:25 became a Party or even a movement, and yet  people still think that National Socialism  

2:29 derived from Mussolini’s Fascism. No, they were  created separately, at roughly the same time.

2:35 Mosley’s “British Union of Fascists”  was created in October 1932. And yes,  

2:43 this is extremely late - thirteen years or more  after the other two. Again, this is important  

2:50 for several reasons. I would argue that this is  partly why Mosley’s Fascism had been described  

2:56 by some historians as the most “coherent” of the  fascist movements. Well, the others had to develop  

3:03 their ideology from scratch, and this took years  of debate. Mosley came along later and could just  

3:09 borrow from what they had already made earlier. I  would also argue that this was why they weren’t as  

3:16 successful as the other two, because they came  too late. But that’s a video for another day.

3:22 When did these leaders become anti-Semitic?  

3:26 Hitler probably became anti-semitic after  joining the DAP in 1919. Yes, in Mein Kampf,  

3:33 he does say that he developed his anti-semitism  in Vienna before the First World War,  

3:39 but this is questionable for several reasons. We  do have proper evidence of him being anti-Semitic  

3:46 in the summer of 1919, so it’s safe to say  that this was the earliest confirmed date.

3:54 Mussolini developed his anti-semitism in 1938.  

3:59 In fact, 10,000 Jews were in the  Fascist Party of Italy at this point,  

4:04 and Mussolini had a Jewish mistress up until  1938. People have challenged me on this,  

4:10 but there’s no real evidence of Mussolini being  anti-semitic before 1938. It was only after he had  

4:17 gone to see Hitler in the September of 1938 that  he passed his anti-Semitic laws, but even then,  

4:23 Jews remained in his party until 1943 when he  was deposed. Hitler certainly had his influence,  

4:30 but even then Mussolini wasn’t like Hitler. I’ll  explain why in a moment, but for now, you have to  

4:37 accept the reality that Mussolini’s Fascism wasn’t  anti-semitic for nineteen years after he founded  

4:45 his party. The idea that Fascism is inherently  anti-semitic or racist is challenged by this fact.

4:53 “I agree with you entirely. I  don’t believe a bit in the stupid  

4:58 anti-Semitic theory. I am carrying out my  policy entirely for political reasons.”

5:04 Mosley developed his anti-Semitism in the autumn  of 1934, two years after the founding of his  

5:13 Fascist party. There is some evidence of members  being anti-Semitic in the party before this point,  

5:19 but Mosley himself wasn’t an anti-Semite  until late 1934, and his party wasn’t  

5:25 officially anti-semitic until after this point.  In fact, anti-Semitism was banned prior to 1934.  

5:33 Again, this challenges the idea that  fascists are inherently anti-semitic.  

5:38 And the reason I’m highlighting this is because  there is a difference between National Socialism  

5:43 and Fascism, and people think that fascism  is just for a bunch of racist nutjobs. But,  

5:50 while racism is important to the story  of both National Socialism and fascism,  

5:54 there’s more to fascism (especially) than just  that, and we’re going to see that in a minute.  

6:00 If we focus entirely on the racism, we miss  the wood for the trees. People are falling  

6:07 for fascism for other reasons, not just the  racism, so we need to look into those reasons.

6:13 What type of anti-semitism did they have? Well,  Hitler was clearly a racial anti-semite. If you  

6:21 had the ‘bad’ Jewish ‘blood’, as opposed to ‘Aryan  Super-Saiyan blood’, then you were Jewish and were  

6:29 seen as a problem. Mussolini’s anti-Semitism  was different; it wasn’t based on ‘ze blut’.  

6:35 It was more of a ‘spiritual’ anti-Semitism.  It was his ideology vs the Jewish religion.  

6:44 He wanted a strong Italy, and believed that  the Jewish religion would go against that  

6:50 idea. So as long as you were willing  to convert from Judaism to Fascism,  

6:54 then you would be fine, which was why  10,000 Jews were in the Fascist Party  

6:59 of Italy. It was still anti-Semitism,  but it wasn’t racial anti-Semitism.

7:05 “...[Mussolini] and his Fascists refused  to deport Jews to the Nazi death camps  

7:10 thus saving thousands of Jewish lives  - far more than Oscar Schindler.”

7:16 Mosley’s anti-semitism was different again.  One historian I’ve read calls it “political  

7:22 anti-semitism”, but from my reading, I’d  say it was more Nationalist anti-semitism.  

7:28 What do I mean by that? Well, Mosley  saw the world in terms of nations. He  

7:33 was pro-the-British-nation. So he saw the Jews  as another ‘foreign’ nation who were invading  

7:40 Britain. He spells this out and says it’s  NOT because of their race or their religion.

7:46 “So far as foreign people already  living here are concerned, so long  

7:50 as they conform to British standards,  as laid down by the Fascist State,  

7:54 they will be permitted to live and work on  exactly the same basis as British subjects.  

7:59 There will be no discrimination and no  persecution because of race or religion.”

8:05 “Foreigners, however, who break the economic code  of Fascism, or the social code, will be deported.”

8:13 Arguably you could say he was lying, but I don’t  think he was here, and the leftist historian I  

8:21 used doesn’t think so either (for more reasons  than not I’m letting on here because I don’t want  

8:26 to bog this video down too much). Therefore,  describing it as a “Nationalist” version of  

8:31 anti-Semitism is probably correct… which is  interesting because we now have three forms  

8:37 of anti-semitism, all developing at different  times. Hitler’s anti-semitism was inherent  

8:44 within the doctrine of National Socialism. But  Fascism isn’t necessarily anti-semitic, or even  

8:50 racist. Arguably, Mussolini and Mosley may have  been anti-semities, but not necessarily racists,  

8:59 and I think that’s an important distinction.  There’s no talk about ‘ze blut’ in Mussolini  

9:05 or Mosley’s texts like there is with Hitler’s. And  this is a significant point for a simple reason:  

9:12 the vast majority of the population will call each  other ‘fascist’, thinking that it means ‘racist’.  

9:17 But the ideology of fascism isn’t necessarily  racist. So, because of this, actual fascists  

9:25 can use your ignorance of fascism against you.  You call them a racist, they say “no we’re not”,  

9:32 and then they prove that to you that they’re not,  which they can, and you suddenly realise that the  

9:39 media and the historians are lying. And then the  fascist can say, “hey, it’s all propaganda and  

9:44 lies, you don’t know what fascism really is, come  over here and I’ll tell you ‘The Truth’ (hashtag,  

9:50 copyright, trademark).” And that’s how they  draw you in to convert you over to become a  

9:55 fascist. Again, this is why it’s important  to know what you’re actually dealing with.

10:00 What was their stance on Monarchy? Hitler  hated the monarchy. I’ve done a video on it,  

10:07 but he hated the Kaiser, and when the Kaiser  asked Hitler in 1940 if he could restore the  

10:13 Germany monarchy, Hitler called him an idiot.  Goebbels called the Kaiser “an old Jew”,  

10:20 saying he might have “Jewish blood in his veins”.  So Hitler was absolutely, 100%, against monarchy.

10:29 Mussolini feared a revolt if he got rid  of the King, so he had to put up with the  

10:34 monarchy due to political reasons. But he was  anti-monarchy as well. Mosley on the other hand,  

10:41 was - in his own words - “intensely loyal to the  monarchy”. This makes more sense where you realise  

10:48 that Mosley was an aristocrat, while Hitler  and Mussolini were not. So again, we have a  

10:55 difference here. Fascism can be for or against the  monarchy, it just depends on the type of fascism.

11:03 But there are also similarities. They’re  all anti-parliamentary and anti-democracy.  

11:10 But I must provide a caveat to this  statement, which is why the asterixis  

11:15 are there for Hitler and Mussolini (plus  a million and one references below).  

11:20 Both Mussolini and Hitler believed that  their totalitarian governments were the  

11:26 highest form of democracy. The reason why  is because they believed that their worker  

11:33 parties were the people. The people were  the party, and the party was the state.  

11:41 So why is it not democracy? Giovani Gentile, the  philosophical founder of fascism, has a couple of  

11:48 chapters dedicated to this question in his book  the “Origins and Doctrine of Fascism” where he  

11:53 describes this. He says that all other states are  created from the top downwards, whereas Fascism  

11:59 is built from the ground up. So as a result,  the state is the ultimate form of democracy.

12:06 “The Nationalist state was [an] aristocratic  state, that constructed itself out of the  

12:12 force it inherited from its origin, that made  it valued by the masses. The Fascist State,  

12:18 on the other hand, is a popular state, and, in  that sense, a democratic State par excellence.”

12:25 And Hitler says something similar. This is  why I have a video on Hitler’s democracy,  

12:30 and also why I say that North Korea is  a democracy, because technically it is.  

12:36 Democracy isn’t “voting”, it’s when the people  are in power, which they are in a workers’  

12:42 state. So I would still say that these guys are  anti-democracy in the popular sense of the word,  

12:49 but pro-democracy in the totalitarian sense of  the word. If you’re not sure what I mean by that,  

12:56 I’d say watch my video on Hitler’s democracy  which will explain this concept in full. But  

13:02 essentially, democracy is just another word for  totalitarianism. It’s a scam. It’s a con word.  

13:08 It’s snake oil. It’s a trick to get you to vote  away your power to the totalitarian politicians  

13:14 who are supposedly there to “represent” you.  Yeah okay, sure they are. Trust me, bro.

13:22 Politics. What is their politics? Well, Mussolini  and Mosley are usually described as nationalists  

13:29 for their respective countries. But technically,  this might not be true. Mosley’s nationalism is  

13:36 not ‘British’ nationalism because there was  little support for the “British Union of  

13:41 Fascists” outside of England. One historian says  it was “misnamed”, being predominantly an English  

13:48 movement. The Scots, Welsh and Irish weren’t  English, and some of them (especially today) don’t  

13:55 want to be British either. So “Britishness”  is technically an international identity.  

14:01 To be “British” is to forego your English  nationality, your Welsh nationality, etc. So even  

14:08 calling Mosley a “nationalist” is problematic,  which is why I’ve put an asterisk beside it.

14:15 Mussolini is the same. Italians weren’t a  nation back then. Arguably they were also  

14:21 an international identity. Giovanni Gentile also  describes the Fascist State as “distinct” from  

14:28 the Nationalist State on numerous occasions  in his “Origins & Doctrine of Fascism” book.  

14:32 So I hesitate to call it nationalism as such,  but will do so for the lack of a better term.

14:38 But I am 100% certain that Hitler wasn’t a  ‘nationalist’ in the traditional sense. I  

14:46 know it’s in the name of his party, but he’s not  a nationalist because his nation isn’t a nation,  

14:51 it’s a race. The nation is the ‘race’, so we can’t  call it nationalism, it’s more like ‘racism’.  

15:01 So, think about it this way: he wanted to  Anschluss the Austrian Germans into the Reich.  

15:06 Well, why? Surely as a nationalist, Hitler would  allow the Austrian Germans to have their own  

15:14 nation? They were Austrians! But no, because  they were German. Their Austrian nationalism  

15:21 is irrelevant because Hitler wants to unite the  German race. So his ‘nationalism’ is actually  

15:31 an international German movement, not a national  one, despite the fact the ‘national’ bit is in the  

15:38 name of his party. It’s probably best to use the  word “Volkisch” to describe this (although that’s  

15:43 problematic in itself because it has ties to the  occult, which Hitler didn’t entirely agree with).  

15:49 I’ve described Hitler’s ideology as  “Racial Socialism” for this reason  

15:53 because it’s not ‘normal’ nationalism  - it’s racial, unlike the other two.

15:59 Economics. Oh here we go, here’s the controversial  statement of the century… but we’ll cover  

16:08 Mussolini and Mosley first because even Wikipedia  (the Greatest Source since tomato) agrees with me  

16:13 on this. Yes, it was Syndicalism. Now there are  other sources for this, James Gregor, Gentile,  

16:21 Farrell, Mosley himself etc etc. It’s best to  describe it as “National Syndicalism” which is  

16:28 why I put the Nationalism bit first. But what  is “syndicalism”? It’s actually trade-unionism.  

16:35 That’s actually where the word “fascism”  comes from. It derives from the Roman  

16:40 bundle of sticks - the fasces - but the word  “fascio” means trade union. The first fascio  

16:47 was created in October 1914, and Mussolini came  along in the December after he left the Socialist  

16:52 Party. Gentile describes how the idea was to  merge the State and the trade unions together.

16:58 “...since the intention was to overcome the  antithesis between the State and the syndicate,  

17:04 the effort was made to enter the system of  syndicates harmoniously into corporations subject  

17:11 to discipline by the State and to thereby give  expression to the organic character of the State.”

17:18 In plane English, the trade union syndicates would  be formed into ‘corporations’, which would make  

17:24 up the ‘organic’ state. An organ is part of a  body. Another name for a body is a “corpse”.  

17:31 Corporations would be “body organisms” of the  people, and they would form their people’s  

17:38 state - their democracy. That’s literally where  the concept of the “corporation” comes from. To  

17:44 put it another way, people would form into  trade unions, which were an expression of  

17:49 their ‘spirit’. These trade unions would  grow to become syndicates and corporations,  

17:54 which would form a state. So it’s bottom-up,  rather than top down. This “corporate state”  

18:01 would act for the workers, not for  the elite (in theory at least).

18:06 “The Fascist State, having organized and  juridically recognized workers’ syndicates  

18:13 and employer organizations, intends to adapt  its structure to those united syndicates,  

18:18 to draw them into national corporations,  on the way to a system of political  

18:24 representation compatible with the  structure of workers’ organizations…”

18:28 This is what Fascism is - trade unionism,  or syndicalism. Hitler’s economics, though,  

18:35 is Socialism, with elements of syndicalism too.  Hitler had a 32 million-man strong trade union,  

18:44 the DAF (the German Labour Front), one of  the largest trade unions in history. He also  

18:49 had workers’ battalions, with one fighting at the  Battle of Arnhem in 1944. So it might be better to  

18:57 describe it as syndicalism rather than socialism,  but because the historians have completely  

19:03 neglected the study of the Nazi economy, it’s  impossible to say right now. I currently think  

19:08 it’s socialism, and since I like to annoy all the  Marxists, I’m just going to keep it as socialism.  

19:13 No wait, no I’m not! I’m going to change it to  “REAL Socialism”. I think that looks better.

19:21 “Noooooo! My philosophy degree is worthless!”

19:26 Speaking of which, philosophy. Hitler had a  Social Darwinist philosophy. This is the idea  

19:33 of “struggle” in an evolutionary sense. That’s  why Hitler chose to title his book “Mein Kampf”,  

19:40 “My Struggle” - it’s central to his entire  creed, and is probably more important than  

19:46 all the other elements. But interestingly, this  philosophy contradicts both the Volkisch and  

19:52 racist anti-semitism that Hitler has, and is part  of the deep ideological flaw in Nazism that I went  

19:59 over in detail at 1 hour 25 minutes into my 5 hour  Hitler’s Socialism video. See Section 5, Part 1,  

20:06 ‘National Socialism’s Fundamental Ideological  Flaw’. Timestamp in that video’s description.

20:11 But back to this video, Mussolini and Mosley  are different; they have a philosophy known  

20:17 as Actualism. Technically, I haven’t yet come  across evidence that Mosley was consciously  

20:23 aware of this philosophy, but his actions  and beliefs suggest that he embraced it,  

20:28 even if he didn’t know it consciously. Now, what  is Actualism? (Sigh) You can look it up online,  

20:36 but you’ll find a bunch of contradictory answers.  And the reason why is because it’s a load of  

20:41 garbage. I will define it as a neo-Hegelian  nonsensical gnostic justification for their cult.  

20:49 And it’s rare that I say this, but it’s  not worth looking into - it just isn’t.  

20:56 I can cover it in a separate video if it’s  absolutely necessary, but I don’t think it’s  

21:00 worth it. It’s just Hegelian nonsense.  All you need to know right now is that  

21:03 it supposedly “proves” that the Revolution is  coming. Which Revolution? Well, in this case,  

21:10 the Fascist Revolution, but also it supposedly  “proves” the Marxist revolution as well.

21:15 So yes, Hitler, Mussolini and Mosley  were Revolutionaries. Zitelmann’s book  

21:21 “Hitler’s National Socialism” spends the  entire second section (like 80 pages) on  

21:27 Hitler being a revolutionary, so I would  just read that if you were ever in doubt  

21:31 about this. James Gregor also shoots  down the idea that Italian Fascism was  

21:35 “counter-revolutionary” or “reactionary”,  as the Marxists claimed. Farrell talks  

21:41 about this throughout in regards  to Mussolini being a revolutionary.

21:45 “Actually, they were reactionary only if  hostility to Capitalism and liberalism,  

21:51 the monarchy and parliament is reactionary.”

21:55 In fact, Mosley calls other people (like the  “Tories”) - he calls them “reactionaries”. But  

22:02 despite this, one Leftist historian describes  Mosley’s fascism as an “ultra-conservative  

22:07 reactionary” movement. I mean, talk about dropping  the ball. So no, they’re all revolutionaries.

22:16 But they’re not united when it comes to war.  Hitler was pro-war, obviously. (Do I even need a  

22:22 source for that statement?) Mussolini was pro-war  (eventually). And Mosley was anti-war. In fact,  

22:28 it helped him regain support in the run  up to the Second World War. So again,  

22:33 there’s a difference here  between the three fascisms.

22:37 The reason why was because their aims were  different. Hitler wanted Living Space in  

22:42 the East (Lebensraum). Mussolini wanted a  Mediterranean Empire. And Mosley wanted to  

22:48 fix the British Empire, because he thought it  was sick and failing. So he wanted to save it.  

22:55 There was no talk of expanding it. So again, we’ve  got a difference here between the three leaders.

23:00 In fact, I would say that there are plenty of  differences between Mussolini and Mosley alone,  

23:06 based on their national issues. Mussolini was  Italian, and Mosley was British, so there were  

23:13 differences between their fascisms because of  that. And the main difference between fascism  

23:18 and National Socialism is the racial element.  This is why I’ve said it so many times - National  

23:23 Socialism is not the same as Fascism. It is NOT a  fascism. It is different and distinct enough that  

23:29 it could rightfully be classed as a separate  ideology, even if there are some crossovers.

23:34 So there you go. I’ll have a few  videos on the screen right now for  

23:38 you on various ideologies. Check them  out. Thanks for watching, bye for now.

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