Global LNG Exports Fall to Two-Year Low
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0:00 That's a very good question.
0:01 I think in a few weeks ago, they tried to pass through the Strait of Hormuz,
0:08 negotiating directly potentially with Iran at the time
0:11 when Iran wanted to start this new system,
0:14 this new equation of a tolling boost system.
0:17 And so some countries were ready to play the game.
0:21 And what the U.S.
0:22 blockade did was to delegitimize and negate the this new equation.
0:27 I think right now Qatar might try to have this safe passage.
0:34 I think some countries will wait to see that it's really secure,
0:40 especially for tankers, commodity tankers that are more expensive.
0:43 I think they will still wait a little bit.
0:45 Help us with Arabian list risk, I should say.
0:48 Who is on Qatar's side?
0:50 Is it Saudi Arabia is linked to Doha versus the UAE?
0:55 Explain that politics.
0:56 So I think Qatar has been the closest Gulf countries to Iran,
1:00 and that has been very different than Saudi Arabia or the UAE,
1:04 because Qatar and Iran are sharing a big the world's largest gas field.
1:10 And Qatar has always depended on the Iran also for the Strait of Hormuz.
1:14 And that's always taken a more
1:16 a perspective of appeasement and negotiation with Iran.
1:21 So, Leslie, how does the world open up the Strait of Hormuz?
1:25 It's not the secretary of defense saying it's open because we
1:29 all see the same maps and the ships are just sitting there.
1:33 How do you actually open it up?
1:35 How does that happen, do you think?
1:37 So, as you know, we have two blockades and either it's like one,
1:40 two or three, we lift it together.
1:43 I mean, right now the thing is that we're in the stalemate.
1:47 And I think the US is trying to change
1:52 this equation and try to move things too fast.
1:56 And, you know, because what the reality is
1:59 that Iran is good at negotiation, good at propaganda,
2:03 good at expansions through the proxies in the region,
2:07 but not good at winning wars.
2:08 They are good at inflicting damage.
2:11 And right now, I think the US government is
2:14 trying to end the way Iran is trying to exhaust.
2:17 And, you know, not only its own economy
2:20 but the global economy and trying to change the equation.
2:25 So in reality, you know, it seems like, again,
2:28 we're all learning the same maps of the Strait of Hormuz.
2:31 We now have a pretty good understanding.
2:33 It's a very narrow passageway and it seems like Iran holds most,
2:38 if not all, the cards in terms of safe passage through there.
2:42 If I'm an insurance company, I'm not letting my ship go through there.
2:46 Yeah, I think eventually what the US is hoping
2:48 is that other countries will join this kind of coalition.
2:51 So the US is taking the leadership
2:53 and some courageous insurance companies and, and you know,
2:58 allies from the US will take the risk.
3:02 I think that there is a there is a military strategy here to protect,
3:07 you know, the tankers.
3:09 We've air capabilities.
3:10 I mean and going, you know, through the Oman path.
3:14 Okay.
3:14 The Oman pass.
3:15 Let's bring it back to the secretary has to deal with the politics.
3:18 Why the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Airman
3:21 Cooper and others have to deal with our military is well,
3:25 link natural gas and your expertise, Leslie Paul Guzman,
3:29 into how America really doesn't want to be in the war.
3:33 America's joining what I think in Patrick McHenry's old congressional district.
3:38 It's $4, $5 a gallon.
3:40 In L.A., it's $7 a gallon.
3:42 Link the American reality into the geopolitics of the Gulf.
3:48 Yeah.
3:48 So I think luckily, you know,
3:50 the US is a large one of the world's largest oil and gas producer now.
3:55 So it means that the US is the most isolated
3:58 right now compared to many other countries around the world.
4:01 Doesn't mean that there is not a risk of inflation, higher gasoline prices.
4:07 But if you look at Henry home prices
4:09 and where prices are below $3 per million BTU.
4:12 So, you know, the generally speaking,
4:16 the US economy is in a much better position than the rest of the world.
4:22 So again, if the Strait were to be magically opened tomorrow,
4:27 how do you think oil prices would react?
4:30 And is there a I guess, a longer term premium now put into oil coming
4:34 out of that part of the world, do you think?
4:37 So generally speaking, I think markets have been optimistic.
4:39 You know, the they are waiting, you know, one week,
4:43 two weeks like that, things may start to be more hopeful and and open up.
4:48 I think, you know, now by mid-June.
4:50 That's kind of the new thinking that things could really start to flow
4:54 again or but that definitely by the summer there will be an improvement.
4:59 So I guess who kind of blinks here?
5:04 Is it a ship owner?
5:06 Is it an insurance company?
5:07 Is it a captain on the bridge of one of these ships?
5:10 How does this actually happen?
5:12 Do you think it's going to be a mix,
5:15 But I think it's going to be countries like allies from the United
5:18 States that are going to show a good gesture and say,
5:21 okay, we trust that we have the confidence to go,
5:24 but with all your abilities and skills.
5:27 The entire orbit, including the press conference we just heard,
5:32 circles around the president.
5:34 Do you see a president who in any way wants
5:38 to do any of the processes you did at Tufts years ago?
5:41 I just don't see the linkage of Kissinger's 1200 pages.
5:45 We all read it.
5:48 Diplomacy with this president of the United States.
5:52 But again, I think that, you know, the surrender,
5:55 we don't know if it will happen or not,
5:58 but I think it's too early to call it, you know, a quagmire.
6:02 I think it's many outcome are still possible.
6:05 And we I think the negotiations are still, you know,
6:09 a possibility as well as kinetic restart the war.
6:12 Both are on the table.
6:14 And it's going to depend on what Iran also wants to do.
6:17 I think, you know, the conditions of ending
6:19 the war and so on, that's still on the table.
6:22 Paul wants to get into more intelligent questions.
6:25 Simple as I can it.
6:27 What price of a gallon of gas does this dialogue change?
6:33 I think for now I see a lot of determination
6:36 from the president and he's not willing to back down.
6:40 Liquid, natural liquefied natural natural gas, I call it natural gas to LNG.
6:46 That's why they have this nice acronym, LNG,
6:48 that seems to be an increasingly valuable commodity here.
6:51 Talk to us about the LNG market.
6:54 And I mean because the U.S.
6:55 is a big player in that.
6:56 Yeah.
6:56 So definitely right now the U.S.
6:58 is a big winner with LNG.
7:01 So the U.S.
7:02 was already the world's largest LNG supplier and we have
7:06 been like the ninth liquefaction project that just started last week.
7:12 And all the liquefaction plants in the U.S.
7:14 are running at full capacity.
7:16 The other second largest supplier is Qatar,
7:19 which is right now unable to export any of its LNG.
7:24 But, you know, you started with how to make a lemonade out of lemons.
7:29 I think Qatar is thinking ahead on how to transform
7:32 this crisis into an opportunity by potentially changing its business model,
7:36 moving away from the Strait of Hormuz and in.
7:41 But at the end of the day, regaining the trust from the buyers would be key.
7:46 But I think Qatar has the possibility to slow to slow start to slow restart its
7:52 liquefaction plants and then clear the glut because
7:55 we were in a glut in the LNG markets.