This is Why You NEVER Do This to a Hells Angel
Shawn Ryan Show
0:00 flipped the ignition and the car was going to blow up.
0:02 We opened up a door, the door was going to blow up.
0:04 If people were on the streets just kind of watching
0:08 Mel Chansy back in the day and being like, "This dude just came out of a store.
0:12 He opened up the trunk of his vet and grabbed this big stick with a mirror on it
0:18 and at 290 lbs I'm down on my knees
0:20 looking at all the wheel wells and stuff like that.
0:22 They probably thought I was a lunatic, right?
0:24 Like what is this guy doing?
0:25 Can you imagine grocery shopping,
0:27 waiting for your wife and I come out and do all that?
0:31 Well, we have this new thing that we do.
0:32 It's called the hot question.
0:34 Are you familiar with Claude?
0:37 No.
0:38 Anthropic?
0:40 No.
0:39 Okay.
0:40 It's it's basically the most powerful large
0:43 language AI model in the world right now.
0:46 Oh, okay.
0:47 But uh for consumers, so I had Claude scrape the internet.
0:52 every inter every interview, every viral clip,
0:55 every controversial moment tied to you and the Hell's Angels.
1:00 And this is what it came back with.
1:02 You ready?
1:02 Am I ready?
1:03 All right.
1:04 The war between the Hell's Angels and the Outlaws has
1:07 been called one of the bloodiest biker wars in American history.
1:11 During this war, Outlaw's boss Kevin Spike O'Neal reportedly told his hitmen
1:16 that if the target's wife was home during the hit to kill her, too.
1:21 Because in his words, if you begin killing these guys,
1:24 those old ladies, they'll quit wanting to be Hell's Angels.
1:28 So, here's the question.
1:30 What was the single most dangerous moment
1:32 of your entire time in the Hell's Angels?
1:39 So, I know Spike.
1:40 I know Kevin O'Neal, you know, um he's currently,
1:44 you know, he got a life sentence.
1:46 Um uh I think the most dangerous times I would have to say was, you know,
1:52 with with all them bombings that were going on, you know,
1:55 now it wasn't face to face, you know.
1:58 We never know.
1:58 You flip the ignition and the car was going to blow up.
2:01 You opened up a door, the the door was going to blow up, you know.
2:06 I mean, if people were on the streets just kind
2:10 of watching Mel Chansy back in the day and being like,
2:14 "This dude just came out of a store.
2:17 He opened up the trunk of his vet and grabbed
2:20 this big stick with a mirror on it and at 290 lbs,
2:24 I'm down on my knees looking at all the wheel wells
2:27 and stuff like that." They probably thought I was a lunatic, right?
2:30 Like, what is this guy doing?
2:31 Can you imagine grocery shopping,
2:32 waiting for your wife and I come out and do all that?
2:35 You're like, "What is this knucklehead?" Right.
2:37 Literally, you literally did that every time.
2:40 Yes.
2:40 Holy[ __] Yes.
2:41 Because we never knew.
2:42 What if I went in the gym for two, you know, I trained for two hours.
2:46 I come out and that gym parking lot's wide open.
2:48 Like, you know, big to big the gym was in big parking lot,
2:52 big uh um uh had all stores around it.
2:56 What if they went on went under there and did that, you know,
2:58 or when we weren't at the clubhouse wired something an explosive to the door.
3:03 Did you ever find anything?
3:05 Every one of our guys,
3:06 one of our guys found the an explosive device under his wheel well of his truck.
3:11 I believe it was a Bronco.
3:12 Chris will know a little bit more when you
3:14 talk to him because they had to come in.
3:16 The ATF had to come in.
3:17 He found the device.
3:18 So, he called up the local police and said, "Hey,
3:21 there's something under my truck that doesn't look too kosher.
3:24 It's got some wires hanging from it,
3:27 and I think we probably need you guys out." Well, they called the ATF out.
3:31 They had to come out and with their with their bomb squad,
3:35 they had to build a perimeter around this because they couldn't,
3:39 I believe, if I'm saying it right,
3:41 they couldn't uh deattach it and they hit it with a water cannon to blow it up.
3:47 No[ __] They had to explode the bomb with a water cannon,
3:50 but they built a perimeter around it and uh
3:53 they couldn't deactivate it and they hit it like that.
3:55 So, yeah, we uh he found that under his truck.
3:58 I never found nothing under mine, you know, and my house doors and stuff.
4:01 Everywhere I went, I always was looking around.
4:04 When I pulled up to one of my houses at night time and got out of my vehicle,
4:08 my gun was in my hand.
4:10 Wasn't in ready for me to pull out.
4:12 It was in my hand with one in the chamber
4:14 and the the in the in the hammer back back in the day,
4:18 you know, ready to go in case they
4:19 were hiding in the bushes or wherever they were.
4:22 Mhm.
4:22 So, you know, I think that the dangerous most dangerous times for me is
4:26 when when all them bombings started because
4:30 now it could have came from anywhere,
4:31 you know, if we ran into each other, we were face to face,
4:34 then it was on face to face and whatever happened happened, you know,
4:38 but them bombings was uh definitely uh a time that we all
4:42 had to be alert and looking back now definitely the most dangerous times.
4:47 Roger that.
4:48 There's a follow on.
4:50 If someone was caught out here wearing
4:52 a Hell's Angels patch and they didn't earn it, what actually happened to them?
4:57 And did you ever have to be the one to handle that personally?
5:01 We did have an incident and the guy had
5:05 his whole back tattooed with a Hell's Angel patch.
5:09 Are you serious?
5:10 Yeah.
5:10 And he ended up coming into our neighborhood.
5:13 We didn't know him, but when he was approached,
5:17 he said that he was a member in Oakland
5:22 of all places where Sunny and the crew were from, right?
5:25 So, he said he was a member in Oakland back in the day.
5:28 Well, when you leave the club, they make that you put an outdate on your tattoo.
5:34 So when you have a tattoo on you,
5:36 you you wherever you have the Hell's Angel tattoo,
5:38 if you leave, it'll say out 10, you know, or or April 4120404.
5:46 You know, my out date was under here.
5:47 I I I covered it up, you know, it was under there.
5:50 It said out, you know, the month you were out, the year you were out.
5:53 So you couldn't go see anybody and go, "Look, I'm an act of Hell's Angel,
5:56 right?" So that you had an out date when you left the club.
5:58 He didn't have an outdate on there,
6:00 but he was telling the the fellows that, you know,
6:03 people around the neighborhood that, you know, he was a Hell's Angel.
6:07 He was from Oakland.
6:08 He got the tattoo.
6:08 So, when we got a hold of Oakland and and and said this guy's name,
6:14 they never heard of him.
6:16 So, now it was our job to go remove that tattoo.
6:20 Remove it.
6:21 Remove the tattoo.
6:23 And that's exactly what we did.
6:24 We caught him in a bar, dragged him out on off, obviously not on his own will,
6:31 and put him in a van and put some irons on it.
6:38 Took the tattoo off.
6:40 But, you know, I I don't you know, I didn't know the guy.
6:43 I never seen him before.
6:44 He ended up in our neighborhood and we kept hearing about him and he
6:47 was telling people about he had tank tops on and know what he was thinking.
6:52 But uh I mean that happens.
6:54 It's crazy that that happens nowadays.
6:57 You know, you can go get the the replica, the patches from China.
7:01 You can go any club and get their whole entire stuff,
7:04 the president's tags, the tags, the back, the fronts,
7:08 and you see the fake stuff going on.
7:10 You know, I responded earlier there was a fake where there was a mongle taking
7:16 a Hell's Angel patch off a guy in a motorcycle and he took the patch off him,
7:21 the the supposed Hell's Angel,
7:23 and the guy didn't even get off his bike to do anything.
7:25 The Mongol grabbed it and your team was showing me
7:28 a video earlier and I had to respond on it.
7:30 I go, "Yeah, as soon as I seen that, I knew that was fake."
7:34 There was no altercation.
7:35 The Mongol pulled up and you know, I believe it was both stage.
7:38 They both were fake, right?
7:39 So, but as crazy as that sounds, I mean,
7:43 there was people going and doing that, you know?
7:44 I mean, no tattoo artist that was in our neighborhoods would go put
7:49 the Hell's Angel tattoo at death head on somebody unless they heard it from us.
7:54 We worked with a few tattoo guys.
7:55 So, when a when a member got in the club, you know,
7:58 we we you went to our tattoo artist
8:00 and you got the tattoo on you right away, right?
8:02 It was the first thing you were doing after you got your patch going,
8:05 you know, after you're partying for a day.
8:07 next day you're going to the tattoo shop and you're putting your your you
8:09 know my first Hell's Angel tattoo is right under here, you know.
8:14 Um but there was tattoo artists that were, you know,
8:18 these guys were coming in with the stencil and saying,
8:20 "Hey, I'm a member here and when you put this on me, damn."
8:23 And they weren't, you know, using their head and weren't thinking.
8:25 And we've had that incident, too,
8:26 where we had a we had a school, a couple of tattoo artists.
8:30 You don't put that on nobody unless it's coming from us.
8:33 We don't even know you.
8:34 Why would you do that?
8:36 So, you know, it's as crazy as it sounds, Sean.
8:39 People are uh doesn't surprise me.
8:41 Yeah.
8:42 It's as weird as could be, right?
8:43 That's the last thing I'd want to do is if I was just a normal person.
8:46 I mean, even if I thought it was cool and I looked up to these clubs,
8:49 I wouldn't want to go put their insignia on me.
8:52 You know, members have gave their life for that club.
8:56 Obviously, look what we all went through, right?
8:58 The people we lost gave up their lives to be a part of what we what we felt was,
9:04 you know, what we believed in the ultimate sacrifice.
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