The REAL Root Cause of All Chronic Disease is NOT What You Think… | Dr. Thomas Levy

The REAL Root Cause of All Chronic Disease is NOT What You Think… | Dr. Thomas Levy

Jesse Chappus

0:00 The only cause of disease are agents that oxidize.

0:03 And the only agents that oxidize are toxins.

0:06 Thousands upon thousands of toxins in air, water, food.

0:09 Before somebody just pulls their hair out,

0:11 how can I possibly deal with all these different toxins?

0:14 Know what I'm exposed to.

0:16 Give yourself a little comfort with the fact that you need to identify

0:20 where you fall in your exposure to the three main sources of toxins.

0:24 If you can identify and eliminate those new exposures,

0:28 take in enough of the good nutrition, repair the oxidative damage,

0:32 you can bring yourself to normalcy on just about any disease process.

0:36 For a long time, I had what I call my Super 8 supplements.

0:39 A cell that has increased oxidative stress has a high level of calcium.

0:43 Unless you can get that calcium down,

0:45 you're never going to normalize that oxidative stress.

0:48 The primary way to get that calcium down is to take magnesium.

0:51 And recently, I've called it now the Super 8 plus one because I

0:55 think it's important to include the (bleep) We're in this flood of toxins,

0:59 and we need to identify where the new ones are.

1:01 And just like in the shower,

1:03 you're never going to get dry if you're letting in new water flooding in.

1:07 You can't dry off while you're still in the shower.

1:10 Doctor "Levy," you say there's only one cause of disease,

1:14 not hundreds, not thousands, one.

1:17 What is it?

1:18 Well, there's only one cause of disease, and that's a toxin.

1:23 And that might seem a little outlandish at first blush,

1:27 but then you need to first realize the reason a toxin is the only cause

1:33 of disease is because the only thing

1:36 that comprises disease is excess oxidation of biomolecules.

1:41 Biomolecules mean "RNA," "DNA," proteins, sugars, fats, enzymes,

1:46 any sort of molecule in the biological system

1:49 that plays a role in metabolism or metabolic pathways.

1:53 And when they're oxidized, meaning they've lost electrons.

1:57 When they're in the oxidized state, they no longer function.

2:02 So you turn something in your biological system

2:05 from a functioning part to a non-functioning part,

2:09 and if you have a large amount of biomolecules,

2:12 different locations, different concentrations inactivated,

2:17 then those metabolic processes are not progressing normally,

2:22 and that is the disease state.

2:25 And this is frequently referred to as oxidative stress,

2:29 which is a good term increased oxidative stress.

2:32 The problem is in the literature even

2:35 though you see increased oxidative stress associated

2:38 with any disease type in the disease name

2:41 on "PubMed," type in the phrase oxidative stress,

2:44 and you'll see it there for every single disease.

2:47 But the wrong conclusion is that oxidative stress causes some sort of disease.

2:53 In other words, it results in somethin, that's not accurate.

2:57 The accurate statement is the increased oxidative stress is the disease...

3:03 Now, having said that, it turns out that when something oxidizes a biomolecule,

3:09 that is a toxic effect,

3:11 and even though this might seem crazy because I'll tell you

3:15 the reason why in a moment all toxins cause their damage by oxidation.

3:20 If a substance or a molecule or any sort of thing that's

3:24 considered to be a poison does not oxidize a biomolecule, it's not toxic.

3:30 Unless space-accumulation.

3:32 But as far as metabolic interaction, the only thing that allows a molecule to be

3:39 toxic is for it to take electrons away from biomolecules.

3:45 And the definition is then important.

3:48 The definition is then we see so many synonyms in the literature.

3:53 A toxin is a pro-oxidant the opposite of an antioxidant,

3:57 a free radical, a reactive oxygen species, or poison.

4:01 They really all mean the same thing.

4:04 They're unstable molecules that need to take electrons away from healthy,

4:09 normal, reduced biomolecules to become stable themselves.

4:14 And when they do that momentarily, they're no longer toxic because they're no

4:19 longer in a position to take more electrons.

4:22 But they've reduced the electron pool...

4:25 That's an important concept too.

4:28 The more electrons you have freely circulating in a biological system,

4:32 going to and fro between antioxidants—oxidized, reduced,

4:37 oxidized, reduced you generate an electron flow...

4:41 And for those who are listening to us,

4:43 an electron flow is also known as a current.

4:47 The flow of electrons is an electrical current.

4:51 And it's very well established

4:53 in the literature that the higher electron current,

4:58 inducing a more significant transmembrane voltage,

5:02 you simply have a healthier cell.

5:04 It's basically having an electrical device that's

5:08 not getting much juice but getting optimal juice.

5:12 So the better the electrons flow,

5:15 the healthier the cell and the less oxidation and oxidative stress in the cell.

5:23 I stumbled across this in many ways 30 years ago working with Doctor "Hal

5:27 Huggins." Insofar as I became very aware

5:30 of the power of intravenous vitamin C...

5:33 And when I researched the literature and saw the work of Doctor

5:37 "Frederick Klenner," the really initial person he didn't discover vitamin C,

5:41 "Albert Szent-Györgyi" did, and he received the Nobel Prize for that...

5:46 But that's all "Szent-Györgyi" was.

5:48 I'm not minimizing it, but he was a researcher, not a clinician...

5:52 But "Klenner" took this information and somehow decided that vitamin C

5:56 was going to be good in large doses for infections and toxins.

6:00 And anyway, he quickly established that no matter what the poisoning was,

6:06 no matter what the toxin was,

6:08 if somebody came in severely impaired, dying, whatever,

6:11 large doses of intravenous vitamin C would completely neutralize the toxicity,

6:17 and unless the patient was on literally death's doorstep,

6:21 bring them back to complete normalcy.

6:23 And at the time, 30 years ago, I puzzled about this.

6:27 I said, how can one substance, vitamin C.

6:30 Simple little vitamin C, how can one substance neutralize the ability

6:35 of thousands upon thousands upon thousands of different

6:38 toxins to inflict their harm or to kill somebody or to cause a problem?

6:44 And even though it didn't register quite right at that time,

6:48 I quickly realized that the only way that can be possible is

6:53 that all toxins need to have a final common denominator of toxicity.

6:59 Otherwise there could be no commonality,

7:02 and otherwise vitamin C couldn't do what it does.

7:06 And quite simply, it is now very clear that that common causality

7:11 is that all toxins cause abnormal oxidation or electron theft from biomolecules,

7:17 putting them into a metabolically inert state.

7:22 And then the next question was, if there's so many different toxins and they

7:28 cause different clinical syndromes, so how can that be?

7:31 Well, that's where the individual variability of the toxin comes into play.

7:36 If it's fat soluble, if it's water soluble,

7:39 if it's a very large molecule, a very small molecule, if it's ionic,

7:44 if it has a certain physical configuration that allows

7:47 it to adapt to some molecules versus others,

7:50 that determines then which molecules does a large dose

7:54 of a certain toxin cause the most oxidation to?

7:57 And so the physical characteristics of the toxins determine

8:02 the anatomical or physical variation in which biomolecules are oxidized.

8:08 And it's the unique array of biomolecules in concentrations,

8:12 what metabolic reactions are involved in, that determines what the disease is,

8:18 if you will, what the impairment of the normal function of the cell is.

8:24 That, in a big nutshell, is the reason that...

8:29 the title of the book is "The Only Cause of All

8:32 Diseases." The only cause of all diseases are agents that oxidize,

8:36 and the only agents that oxidize, by definition, are toxins.

8:40 Okay, so really high level here, you just summarized.

8:43 I'm going to give you what I'm hearing.

8:45 Okay.

8:46 Oxidation...

8:48 is the disease itself.

8:51 Excess oxidation.

8:52 There's always some degree of physiological oxidation.

8:56 Excess.

8:56 Yes.

8:57 And.

8:58 Vitamin C as an antioxidant is going to come

8:59 into play as part of the treatment here.

9:01 Right.

9:02 And then depending on what the toxin is,

9:04 it's going to impact different areas of the body.

9:07 Right.

9:07 And probably one of the most dramatic examples of this is cyanide.

9:14 In a capital punishment where they're going to kill the prisoner

9:19 and they drop cyanide into a bucket and it releases cyanide gas,

9:24 and the gas is inhaled,

9:26 and literally in a minute or two, because of the route of administration,

9:32 that cyanide gas paralyzes respiratory enzymes

9:35 that are needed to metabolize oxygen.

9:39 So you stop metabolizing oxygen,

9:41 it's just like somebody strangles you to death and you die.

9:46 But that same ion, the cyanide ion, is present in some supplements.

9:52 Vitamin "B12" preparations hydroxocobalamin,— hydroxycyanide.

9:58 It's got cyanide in it.

10:01 I might botch the name there.

10:04 But that can be taken orally and there's no toxicity.

10:08 So because you have the oral administration,

10:11 it has no access via the respiratory system to these enzymes...

10:15 So that's probably the best demonstration I can think of to show

10:19 how it's the physical characteristics of a toxin, where it goes,

10:24 even though the damage being done is the same thing

10:28 you're oxidizing a respiratory enzyme

10:29 or you're oxidizing a different biomolecule.

10:33 We have an overview now...

10:35 What is the first step, if somebody wants to get practical?..

10:39 Is it identifying the toxins,

10:42 trying to heal the body with a substance like vitamin C?

10:48 How do we begin this protocol?

10:51 Excellent question.

10:53 The primary question is...

10:55 we certainly want to have as much of a good intake of vitamin

11:00 C and other antioxidants and nutrition

11:02 as possible to deal with oxidative damage.

11:05 And in fact, if there's no new toxicity introduced to a damaged tissue,

11:10 you can completely repair that tissue and bring it back to normal.

11:15 This is another reason why disease is just oxidation.

11:18 Because if oxidation caused some further damage,

11:21 then just repairing the oxidation is not

11:24 going to take care of that other damage.

11:27 So, repair the oxidation, it's done...

11:29 Well, I just said, toxins cause all pathological oxidation, abnormal oxidation.

11:35 So, the first question, I feel and I try to outline this in the book

11:41 is that we're in a flood of toxins these days.

11:46 Thousands upon thousands of toxins in air, water, food.

11:50 So before somebody just pulls their hair out and says,

11:54 how can I possibly deal with all these different toxins?

11:57 Know what I'm exposed to.

11:59 Well, give yourself a little comfort—

12:02 with the fact that you need to identify where

12:06 you fall in your exposure to what I

12:08 categorize as the three main sources of toxins.

12:12 If you can identify and eliminate those new toxin exposures,

12:17 and then take in enough of the good

12:19 nutrition that brings new electrons into the blood,

12:22 into the body, and then repair the oxidative damage,

12:27 you can bring yourself to normalcy on just about any disease process.

12:33 Doctor "Huggins," many years ago when I was working with him,

12:37 30 years ago, he would get sarcastic with me.

12:40 I loved it.

12:41 And so I was sort of struggling with this concept one

12:45 day and Doctor "Huggins" just sort of snorted at me and said,

12:49 "Tom?" I said, yes, sir?

12:51 He said, you can't dry off while you're still in the shower.

12:56 So...

12:56 you can't just repair damaged biomolecules and consider the job done.

13:03 We're in this flood of toxins, and we need to identify where the new ones are.

13:08 And just like in the shower,

13:10 you're never going to get dry if you're letting in new water flooding in.

13:16 So now I categorize the three main sources of toxins.

13:19 First and foremost, it's important to understand that nearly all toxins,

13:25 except for things like heavy metals, nearly all toxins in the body are generated

13:31 by pathogens either an overt infection, an abscess,

13:34 or what I can talk about a little bit later, what I call a pathogen colonization

13:40 on the mucous membranes where the pathogens are replicating,

13:44 but not rapidly enough to form a physically gross infection like an abscess.

13:51 So with pathogens, bearing in mind,

13:53 the pathogens are the primary source of all toxins.

13:57 Yeah, if you live next to a pesticide plant

14:00 or something like that, and you're handling pesticides all day,

14:03 that's gonna be your unique toxin exposure, and you need to address that.

14:07 But for the quote-unquote average person around the world,

14:11 without any abnormally unique and high toxin exposures,

14:15 it's gonna be these three categories that I talk about that really is

14:19 going to account for well over 95% of all diseases that eventually kill,

14:24 including heart disease and breast cancer.

14:27 And I mention those two because we have very specific mechanisms for that.

14:31 And those two causes alone, outside of malnourished populations,

14:36 kill over 50% of the population every year.

14:41 What are the categories?

14:43 The categories, number one, are infections.

14:48 An infection anywhere in your body can release enough

14:51 toxins to make you sick or eventually kill you.

14:55 If you have a ---gangrenous part of your body and you don't cut it off,

15:00 the toxicity and the pathogens in that gangrene

15:03 will eventually kill you and your body...

15:07 the main sources.

15:08 And because of this, it's my estimation that nearly all the pathogens that cause

15:16 disease and eventually kill are oral pathogens in the mouth, far and away.

15:23 If you have a pristine mouth and you

15:27 don't have any other extraordinary toxin exposures,

15:30 you're about as healthy as you could get.

15:33 Since there's other things that impact that, and I'll

15:37 tell you about that in a moment.

15:39 So oral pathogens, most predominantly, very important, gum disease.

15:45 Periodontitis, reddened.

15:47 That's number one, because that starts the bandwagon.

15:51 It's the periodontitis, which in the literature is associated with...

15:55 all diseases.

15:56 Why?

15:57 Because it's continuing to produce pathogens

15:59 and toxins that you assimilate into your body.

16:01 You either swallow them, put them into your lymphatic blood supply,

16:05 or put them into your blood supply.

16:07 So it's periodontal disease, gum disease.

16:11 Then infected teeth, abscessed teeth,

16:13 and the root canal-treated tooth is always infected 100%.

16:17 There's no such thing as a root canal

16:21 that's not going to negatively impact your health.

16:24 Now, if it's leaking badly,

16:26 it can kill you in short term with a heart attack or breast cancer.

16:31 If it's extremely well done, a few people live a normal lifespan with them,

16:37 but how you determine ahead of time which one of those are, that's the problem.

16:42 So I never recommend somebody keeping a root canal.

16:45 Then tonsils.

16:46 This is another occult part, because in the mandible and in the jawbone,

16:51 what's draining infected gums and infected teeth all the time?

16:56 And it's the palatine tonsils.

16:58 The type that get pulled out of childhood.

17:01 The only problem with that is that the tonsils that chronically

17:06 drain these dental infections do not present as acute childhood,

17:11 really large infected tonsils.

17:13 In fact, and this is what makes them so insidiously damaging,

17:18 is the fact that they remain normal in size and they

17:22 don't look inflamed or infected at all from the outside.

17:25 But we know from some studies that I might tell you about later,

17:30 that once you have a tonsil in line with an infected tooth,

17:34 you get rid of the tooth and you still have the infected tonsil,

17:38 then that needs to be addressed too,

17:40 because that can ultimately seed and cause the heart

17:43 attack or the breast cancer that I was talking about.

17:47 So that's number one that really involves

17:53 well over 95% of all diseases and cancers.

18:00 A brief note on cancers.

18:03 Every cancer you can imagine has been biopsied.

18:08 Either the cancer mass itself or the tissue directly surrounding the cancer.

18:13 And guess what?

18:15 They always grow out pathogens.

18:18 Cancers don't develop unless you have the circumstances for an optimal,

18:24 optimal, maximal elevation of oxidative stress.

18:27 Because they're always producing the toxins,

18:30 they're always producing these things that consume vitamin C.

18:34 When you consume vitamin C, the tissue is inflamed and stays inflamed.

18:39 And the thing that keeps it inflamed is

18:42 all the antioxidants and vitamin C are consumed,

18:45 and the oxidative stress is maximal.

18:48 So that's the biggie for the mouth.

18:50 There's a lot more details here I can address later.

18:54 The number two is, and this one has no relationship at all,

18:58 the only category not related at all

19:01 to infections are heavy metal accumulations.

19:05 And this is very for most people, asymptomatic, low-grade,

19:10 insidious, and they have no idea that it's going on.

19:14 Well, the point here is that we

19:18 all have enormous concentrations of heavy metals.

19:22 And they're all significant.

19:24 They all increase the oxidative stress in every tissue,

19:30 in every organ in our body, some organs more than others.

19:34 But the point is even though they might not be

19:37 at a level causing you to have an acute or chronic clinical syndrome,

19:43 they've taken that organ or that tissue and decreased its threshold

19:48 to being susceptible to new oxidative stress that can cause disease or problems.

19:54 Now...

19:55 one of the most...

19:56 I'm a cardiologist, that's my background...

20:00 one of the most incredible papers I ever saw.

20:04 And I must confess, I saw it 30 years ago.

20:07 And it didn't strike home at the time, but it strikes home now.

20:13 In 1999, in the "American Journal of Cardiology," they

20:17 had a series of patients who had very large, dilated, poorly contracting hearts,

20:24 advanced congestive cardiomyopathy, the type of syndrome that you get in line

20:29 for a heart transplant because they say nothing else can be done.

20:33 Your heart's barely contracting,

20:36 you're going to slip into heart failure and die,

20:39 or we're going to get something done for you.

20:42 And as part of the preparation, they do biopsies of the heart tissue,

20:48 biopsy of the heart to look at the pathology,

20:51 to categorize it before starting a heart transplant protocol.

20:55 And in this particular study,

20:57 they also measured heavy metal levels inside those biopsy specimens.

21:04 Now...

21:05 inside the heart, inside the congestive cardiomyopathy cells,

21:12 compared to normal myocytes, normal heart cells.

21:18 There was 22,000-fold.

21:21 That's 2,200,000%, 22,000-fold more mercury inside

21:26 those cells than in normal cells.

21:30 That by itself is a blow-away type of finding.

21:37 But there also was 12,000-fold,

21:40 or 1,200,000% more antimony inside those cells than in normal cells...

21:46 And I'll go on, I'll talk about mercury in a moment, but antimony,

21:50 that's something that a lot of docs haven't

21:53 heard of and practically no laypeople have heard of.

21:57 But let me tell you, it's a heavy metal and it's as toxic as arsenic.

22:04 Where does the antimony come from?

22:08 It comes from, well, I have a glass right here with water,

22:13 but it comes from the plastic bottles of water.

22:16 We already have a semi-hysteria about

22:19 microplastics and their particles right now.

22:22 Well, perhaps as big or bigger hysteria should be the fact that when

22:28 that water in that plastic bottle has been sitting around for a while,

22:33 subjected to heat, this, that, or the other,

22:36 the amount of antimony skyrockets because they

22:39 use antimony to make the damn plastic.

22:44 And I still remember, for example,

22:46 I was giving a presentation of this to a group,

22:50 and I talked about this particular point.

22:53 And there's this 35-year-old fellow that his eyes

22:56 start getting big as cartwheels inside the— audience.

23:01 And later on, he came up and he said, well,

23:03 Doc, what you said about the plastic bottles is horrifying.

23:07 I said, well, how's that?

23:09 He said, well, I was in Afghanistan, and it's so hot you gotta drink 20,

23:14 30 of those plastic bottles of water a day.

23:17 And they would deliver them on large pallets, and the heat was enormous.

23:22 And he said, even though you're thirsty and you

23:25 gotta have the water, I gotta tell you,

23:27 every time I drank a bottle of that water, I felt a little nausea at first.

23:32 So you're literally in a rock

23:34 and a hard place being forced into poisoning yourself.

23:38 There's a lot of data on this and a lot of literature,

23:41 but for anybody that's listening, don't deal with liquids in plastic containers.

23:47 I'm not saying no plastic bags or things like

23:51 this or something that's frozen in a plastic container,

23:54 but plastic liquids in plastic containers where they're continually in contact

23:59 with the plastic and continually in contact with the liquid,

24:04 that should be avoided as best as possible.

24:07 I look at "Coca-Cola." Guess what?

24:10 They used to make it in glass bottles, now they have it in plastic bottles...

24:15 And things that are carbonated are even worse

24:19 because the carbonation leaches out the antimony even more.

24:23 I happen to live in Colombia now.

24:26 And guess what?

24:27 God bless them "Coca-Cola" in glass bottles.

24:32 And they have bottled water in glass bottles.

24:35 But it's available in the United States,

24:37 but you have to be a little more disciplined.

24:40 You have to look for it.

24:41 It's not readily available.

24:43 They make it just so damn easy to get any liquid you want in plastic containers.

24:50 Now, they can make plastic...

24:52 without antimony, but they're not doing that.

24:56 It's just like saying,

24:57 how come the cereal companies can't stop putting metallic iron filings,

25:01 that's another thing, inside their cereals?

25:04 Because they could just stop.

25:06 It doesn't make the cereal, well,

25:08 they think it makes the cereal more nutritious,

25:10 perhaps it doesn't have anything to do.

25:13 And it is an added expense because all they do is throw it in there.

25:18 So these are things that can be remedied, but until they are,

25:23 the individual person needs to address

25:26 this and take— control of their own health.

25:31 And there's other heavy metals,

25:33 much lower content, the antimony and the mercury.

25:36 Now, where's the mercury come from?

25:40 Today if you have somebody with advanced heart failure, age 50, odds are,

25:47 they had 20 or 30 years of exposure to mercury amalgam fillings in their mouth,

25:53 because that's the only thing that they used back in the day.

25:57 Finally, this is getting changed.

25:59 So I would think, I won't be around to know it,

26:02 but perhaps 30 years, 40 years from now, there'll be,

26:06 number one, a lot less congestive cardiomyopathy, but number two,

26:11 there'll be evidence of inconsequential levels of mercury in the heart.

26:16 Mercury is found in a lot of areas, in the fuels and everything like

26:20 this, but this is the lion's share of the exposure.

26:25 And so also discussed in the book then are the type

26:28 of things people need to do to take these things out chelation.

26:33 There's non-prescription ways to approach this.

26:37 Prescription is good, some of them are very potent,

26:40 but the prescription ones are costly for a lot of people.

26:45 But if you already have a significant clinical syndrome,

26:48 and particularly if you already have symptoms of heart failure,

26:53 decreased cardiac contractility, you should find a way to afford

26:57 yourself a good prescription chelator for the mercury.

27:02 So that's number two, heavy metal accumulations.

27:06 I might add, too, the heart gets picked on by these toxins.

27:10 Why is that?

27:12 What is the heart?

27:13 The heart has, right up there with the neurological system

27:17 and the activity of the neurons and the brain cells.

27:21 The heart is just working nonstop, and it's just pulling in nutrients

27:25 and whatever else comes along with the nutrients.

27:29 That's where the toxin exposure is and putting them out.

27:32 And heavy metals generally are not water soluble.

27:36 There's a lot of toxins you get a quick exposure to and they're water soluble,

27:40 and you excrete a large amount of them

27:43 through the bloodstream and through the kidneys.

27:46 But heavy metals characteristically toxify you and then accumulate.

27:54 Also, accumulation of toxins and accumulation

27:58 of oxidized biomolecules is its own toxicity.

28:03 These are physical entities.

28:05 The inside of your cell is a limited space.

28:09 And when the cells are all healthy, they can interact the way they need to.

28:14 But if a large block of them are oxidized and inactive,

28:18 they're still physically present and they're clearly impairing

28:22 and inhibiting the ability of the other normal,

28:25 reduced biomolecules to interact and have their metabolic effects.

28:31 Number three.

28:33 Super tragedy, but a major factor these days.

28:38 Probably on the order of 25 million Americans and 300

28:44 to 350 million people around the world is persistent spike protein.

28:52 Okay, to recap here,— a person could be in a situation where

28:57 they're in a unique environment and bringing toxins into the body that way.

29:03 Otherwise, we have the mouth, heavy metals, spike protein.

29:08 Let's take some time and go deeper into the mouth piece.

29:13 The importance of finding a biological dentist and then the cone beam X-ray,

29:19 to try and find those infections that oftentimes are hidden.

29:20 Okay.

29:24 Excellent points.

29:25 And it's important that everybody understands this because, as I said before,

29:31 although the spike protein is starting to catch up,

29:36 the mouth and its pathogens and infections— are the culprit.

29:41 Well over 90% of the time as the major contributing

29:44 factor to the toxins that are sustaining any particular disease.

29:49 Now,-— for a long time,

29:51 they have lots of different X-rays in medicine in— dental medicine.

29:56 And they've gotten better over time, but probably in the past...

30:01 roughly 20 or 25 years, and really coming into focus now, no pun intended,

30:09 is colloquially called the "3D" X-ray,

30:11 and it's called the "CBCT," the cone beam computed tomography examination.

30:18 And they literally put your head— and immobilize it,

30:22 and then the machine rotates around you, and when you have the final result

30:28 in the technologically advanced state that we're in now,

30:32 you can literally rotate the images so that you see the different angles.

30:37 Because regular X-rays, you have a lot of head-on stuff.

30:40 So it's shooting in one direction...

30:42 and you might have an abscess of a tooth back there,

30:45 but you have so much stuff in front of it, you can't see it with the cone beam.

30:50 You unveil it wherever it is.

30:53 That's important because if you have a root canal,

30:58 you have an infected tooth, maybe it's got an abscess, maybe it doesn't,

31:02 which the cone beam would show, but the root canal is chronically infected,

31:07 will stay infected and will have an enormous negative impact on your health.

31:12 But there's another entity out there that's been little discussed...

31:16 This was discussed in much greater depth in an earlier book that I

31:20 wrote called "Hidden Epidemic," but it's also covered in the new book as well,

31:25 which is— an entity called chronic apical periodontitis.

31:29 In a nutshell, it means an asymptomatic that's important, not hurting.

31:34 An asymptomatic abscess at the tip of the tooth,

31:38 a physical accumulation of pus sitting there at the tooth.

31:42 Well, I think most of us think that when

31:45 you get an abscessed tooth, it hurts like hell.

31:49 And you've got to get it out right away.

31:51 That is the exception to the rule.

31:53 If all of a sudden you just develop horrible pain one day,

31:57 you can't live with it, the pain's horrible, the tooth's got to come out.

32:01 It comes out because it got acutely abscessed.

32:04 Acutely because something introduced pathogens in.

32:07 Maybe the tooth split or something like that and they rapidly grew up.

32:11 And when the pathogens replicate rapidly, what do they do?

32:14 They put tissues on the stretch,

32:16 and it's that stretching that causes this horrible acute pain that you don't

32:21 get relief of until the tooth gets extracted and the socket is properly cleaned.

32:26 Well, what happens?

32:28 Well, over 90, 95% of the time

32:30 in an infected tooth is there's no symptoms at all.

32:35 Maybe you got a little bit of periodontitis.

32:39 It introduced a few pathogens into the tip or the apex of the tooth,

32:43 and then gradually the pulp of the tooth died,

32:46 it became infected, and then later on accumulated an abscess.

32:51 It seems counterintuitive, but they're asymptomatic.

32:54 You can chew on them all day long and you think you have a great healthy mouth.

33:01 And of course, why is this significant?

33:03 It's significant because your tooth is sitting on an abscess.

33:07 And what happens every time especially molars,

33:10 but all teeth the molars come together and they physically

33:15 generate probably the greatest pressure

33:18 that's generated in any biological system,

33:21 which is the pressure between two opposing

33:23 teeth when you're chewing and grinding on them.

33:27 And what happens is your teeth have a— blood drainage and a lymph drainage.

33:35 And this I use to get people's attention a little bit, too.

33:40 And I want to tell you that having an abscessed

33:43 tooth in your mouth in the molar area especially and chewing,

33:48 you're going to release more pathogens and toxins into your blood,

33:53 into your body, than if you took a syringe...

33:57 and injected them "IV." That's because you're putting them in two situations,

34:02 you're putting them into the blood

34:04 and you're squeezing them into the lymphatic system.

34:06 <break time=“3.54s"/> The lymphatic drainage is the plume

34:12 of pathogens for virtually all cases of breast cancer...

34:15 The lymphatics of the teeth they come down to the neck,

34:19 cause a lot of thyroid problems, too, we might add and come down to the chest

34:24 and into the breasts and then out of the armpits.

34:27 And if you have any sort of situation where the pathogen

34:31 count is too high or the drainage is too poor,

34:34 what happens is those pathogens accumulate in the breast and there is,

34:39 in fact, more problems with large pendulous breasts.

34:42 Why would that be?

34:43 Well, you still need gravity.

34:45 Lymphatic circulation has very minimal pressure in it.

34:49 You mostly need gravity to get lymph to make it all the way

34:52 out from its origin source to where it eventually dumps into the blood.

34:58 Well, women with large pendulous breasts are going to accumulate more.

35:03 And it's been well established in the literature

35:06 that, although the mouth obviously has a normal flora,

35:11 and the breasts are always draining lymph from this normal flora of the mouth.

35:16 So it is normal to culture...

35:19 microorganisms from the breast in and around breast lumps, but that's normal.

35:25 However, you have a certain time

35:28 when pathogens these are microorganisms bacteria, viruses,

35:31 et cetera, fungi that produce toxins when

35:35 they replicate compared to other innocuous microorganisms,

35:40 because you have a lot of good microorganisms that help your metabolism,

35:45 and other pathogens that are horribly toxic and potent.

35:49 So then, taking this...

35:51 down...

35:51 from the chewing.

35:55 Almost always is the cause of breast cancer.

35:58 Incidentally, and I mentioned heart disease,

36:03 what also happens when you chew on these infections?

36:06 Again, I want to reemphasize, the chewing is fine, you have no pain at all.

36:12 You have no more idea that you have an infected tooth without doing the test...

36:17 than you have any idea...

36:19 that your blood sugar is 300 rather than 95.

36:22 Before you draw the blood, you have no idea.

36:25 Testing is mandatory if you want to make sure you have no infected teeth...

36:32 contributing to your diabetes, high blood pressure, heart condition,

36:37 arthritis, brain fog, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, all of those things.

36:42 Now, the other thing that happens is every time you chew.

36:48 I told you, the lymphatics go to the breast,

36:50 but the venous blood supply then goes into the general venous circulation.

36:56 Now, what's the characteristic of the general venous circulation?

37:00 Very low pressure.

37:02 Arterial pressure, 120 over 80.

37:04 Venous pressure 5, 10, 15.

37:07 So it's just slowly flowing...

37:09 without high pressure...

37:11 So the pathogens and toxins enter this system and they float merrily along,

37:16 go through the venous drainage,

37:18 go to the pulmonary circulation, which is still low pressure,

37:23 go through the pulmonary circulation,

37:25 then come down and on the other side of the pulmonary circulation,

37:31 getting ready to fuel the arterial side.

37:34 The pulmonary arteries drain into the left atrium of the heart.

37:38 You have four chambers left atrium,

37:41 right atrium, left ventricle, right ventricle,

37:43 they drain into the left atrium, which is also low pressure,

37:47 just like the rest of the veins.

37:50 And then...

37:51 the left atrium drains it into the left ventricle.

37:56 Well, once it gets to the left ventricle, with one squeeze of the heart,

38:02 you go from venous pressures to very high arterial pressure.

38:06 So you go from 15 to 120, 130, 140, 150, just like that.

38:11 And that's fine, except for one thing.

38:14 The coronary arteries are the first artery that's coming...

38:18 out of the aorta that the left ventricle is contracting into.

38:22 So it gets whatever...

38:24 pathogens are contained in the blood.

38:28 It gets them at high pressure.

38:30 And literally, high pressure works to embed...

38:34 those pathogens into the endothelium...

38:36 and eventually...

38:37 multiply themselves and get into the more basic structure of the arterial wall.

38:44 Now, what did I say before?

38:46 Pathogens are your primary source of very high oxidative stress because

38:51 the toxins of the pathogens consume or use up the antioxidants...

38:56 Let me just say this when you have an inflamed tissue,

39:00 there's very little to no vitamin C in it.

39:04 When you have an area that you...

39:06 take all the vitamin C away, it becomes inflamed.

39:09 So an inflamed tissue is the same as a severely vitamin C-depleted tissue.

39:15 So now, we have these arterial walls now colonized with pathogens...

39:22 from these infections in the mouth,

39:25 just sitting there, not making a gross infection colonized.

39:29 I want to differentiate between colonization...

39:32 and infection...

39:33 Infection, they multiply rapidly and they make an abscess, express pus.

39:38 This is low-grade.

39:39 They're living, but they're not thriving.

39:43 What does the immune system do when it sees inflammation?

39:47 And that's what I talked about.

39:49 I said these pathogens are consuming the vitamin C,

39:53 resulting in that tissue being inflamed.

39:55 And that inflammation is an immune system trigger.

39:59 So at the point in time that this becomes inflamed,

40:02 the immune system becomes activated.

40:05 Now here's the kicker,

40:07 what's the first immune cell to show up at a situation of inflammation?

40:14 It's the monocyte.

40:17 Why is that significant?

40:19 The monocyte has 80-fold,

40:21 that's 8,000% more vitamin C packed inside it than is in the circulation.

40:28 So I just told you, inflammation means vitamin C deficiency,

40:32 which triggers the acute immune response.

40:35 And the first cell from the immune response to show

40:38 up there is one that's super-packed with vitamin C.

40:42 It's very clear to me logically, and I assert this in the book.

40:49 And I'm sure this is going to give

40:51 any immunologist that wants to read it conniption fits.

40:54 But I maintain the primary, overwhelming,

40:56 most important role, maybe the only role,

40:59 but I'll stick with most important role

41:01 of the immune system is to resolve inflammation.

41:05 Inflammation is a part of all disease processes.

41:08 Well, I just told you, inflammation is vitamin C depletion.

41:12 So I extend that to tell you that the primary role

41:15 of the immune system is to normalize vitamin C levels wherever they're depleted.

41:20 It's that simple.

41:21 If you have normal vitamin C levels in all your tissues,

41:25 your immune system is dormant.

41:27 It's on standby, it doesn't have anything to do.

41:30 But you get an infection, you inflame a tissue,

41:33 then your immune system turns on to try to do two things

41:37 nuke the infection because these monocytes

41:40 have hydrogen peroxide in them as well,

41:43 nuke the infection and restore the vitamin C level.

41:47 In support of this, it's very important to realize that back in 2006,

41:54 they did a study on 38 patients with known chronic coronary artery disease.

42:01 They had angiograms, they knew the— blockages were there,

42:06 and they did what's called <break time=“5.76s"/> atherectomy.

42:15 They did an angiogram and they put in a special

42:19 device that, just like a "Roto-Rooter," actually scraped the plaque out.

42:25 So in 38 patients, they scraped plaque out of their coronary arteries,

42:31 and they found over 50 species of virus, bacteria, fungi, protozoa,

42:36 and many of them were characteristic pathogens for the mouth.

42:42 And they found this in 38 out of 38 coronary artery disease patients.

42:48 As I like to say, that's pretty close to 100%.

42:54 I don't see there's any way possible to develop coronary artery disease

42:58 as we know it unless there's an inflammation in the blood vessel wall.

43:04 And virtually always that's going to be due to a pathogen consideration...

43:10 I might add one interesting point about the evolution

43:13 of coronary disease is why does a big fat plaque develop?

43:19 I told you that inside the coronary wall,

43:22 the pathogen colonization is consuming vitamin C.

43:25 So you have virtually no vitamin C inside the wall.

43:29 Vitamin C is your single most important substance for synthesizing

43:33 collagen and connective tissue fibers that make a tissue structurally strong.

43:40 Well, the last thing the body wants is for your blood vessel wall to get weak,

43:46 blow up into an aneurysm, and rupture.

43:50 Then you're dead right away.

43:52 So the body has a lot

43:55 of ways of developing incomplete but compensatory mechanisms.

43:58 So in other words, what is the body going to do if it sees,

44:05 perceives that the blood vessel wall is

44:09 getting weak and it doesn't have vitamin C

44:12 available to start remaking the arterial wall

44:16 strong again and resistant to dilation, aneurysm formation?

44:22 What's the only other real alternative it

44:24 can do to prevent that artery from rupturing?

44:27 Build plaque.

44:29 You don't make healthy arterial wall,

44:32 but you make a physical mass that impedes the ability

44:36 of the blood vessel wall to dilate and rupture.

44:41 And that, in a nutshell for you,

44:43 is coronary artery disease and where it comes from.

44:46 Fascinating.

44:47 I want to make sure we take some time here and fully hash this out.

44:50 Sure.

44:51 So you said testing is mandatory.

44:54 Is the cone beam X-ray going to catch everything?

44:57 Because you mentioned the fact that we can have

45:00 these pathogens in the mouth that we don't actually feel pain...

45:04 So I just want to make sure, for the person wanting to go from ground zero here,

45:09 have the testing done in the mouth...

45:12 What does that look like if they want to be comprehensive?

45:15 Well,— obviously no test is 100%,

45:20 but the cone beam examination has taken the 30, 40,

45:25 50% ability of regular X-ray to spot abscesses

45:29 up into the greater than 90, 95% range.

45:34 Also characteristic of most tests is you

45:37 have different manufacturers with different quality machines.

45:42 You have a procedure that once you have the result,

45:47 it takes a great deal of expertise to really thoroughly interpret it.

45:54 Not trying to take a shot at biological dentists

45:57 because they are our only hope compared to— mainstream dentists.

46:05 Every biological dentist that gets a cone beam

46:08 examination should be sending it for a formal, complete interpretation,

46:13 because it takes specially trained radiologists or dentists a full 20,

46:19 25 minutes to properly interpret this.

46:21 The regular dentist, with any other X-ray, they just slap it up there,

46:26 give it 15 or 20 seconds, and if there's a big huge abscess, then they got it.

46:31 But they're not really taking the time because a lot of abscesses are subtle.

46:36 They're not all sitting there like little balloons

46:39 or drops at the end of a micro dropper.

46:42 Some of them are quite subtle and they need a proper resolution.

46:46 So the long answer to your question is no test is perfect,

46:49 but we're going to catch many, many, many, many more abscessed teeth which

46:54 cause all the detrimental things I'm talking about.

46:58 And really,— everybody should get this.

47:00 But definitely if you got diabetes, heart disease, this sort of problem,

47:05 you need to get this done and you need to get it done right away

47:09 because you're just not going to get better

47:12 if you have abscessed teeth in your mouth.

47:15 It's that simple.

47:16 So you mentioned the fact that we need

47:19 a specialized biological dentist to interpret the test.

47:21 Right.

47:22 But for the average person, say, living in Middle America, small town,

47:27 if they can find a dentist there to do a cone beam X-ray,

47:32 do most dentists do it in a way that's proficient that they can

47:36 then send it via the internet to somebody else likely to interpret that?

47:41 Yeah, well, that's certainly my understanding.

47:46 I still don't want to minimize expertise.

47:51 There's some expertise that's involved in doing the test,

47:54 but they give a little training program when you get the machine.

47:58 So for the most part, the study is the study is the study.

48:01 And yes, once the study has been done, even at a dental practice that's...

48:06 low volume or different, whatever.

48:08 Yes, it can be sent out and you

48:11 can rely on getting a good accurate interpretation.

48:14 Yes.

48:15 You quickly mentioned there the fact that if you have diabetes,

48:18 this is something you want to act on quickly.

48:22 You went deep into the heart and the plaque.

48:26 Let's bring diabetes in and make the connection.

48:29 Sure.

48:31 You'd be amazed how this factors into vitamin C as well.

48:36 I'm going to tell you, and I outline it in the book,

48:42 that diabetes is an inherited genetic disease.

48:46 It's an inherited genetic disease because the human being,

48:52 unlike the wild animals,

48:54 the human being is not making or synthesizing its own vitamin C.

49:00 Nearly all the wild animals have a four-enzyme sequence

49:05 in their liver to turn glucose into vitamin C.

49:11 Nearly all human beings are deficient in the fourth enzyme.

49:15 In other words, there appears to be an epigenetic,

49:18 I say epigenetic because amazingly enough,

49:21 human beings, when they're infants and babies,

49:24 most of them make their own vitamin C.

49:27 But obviously they eventually encounter some sort of combination of toxins,

49:32 who knows what they are that stops the translation mechanism

49:36 of this fourth enzyme of turning the glucose into vitamin C.

49:40 But the important point there is,

49:42 in understanding diabetes, is that we should be,

49:45 number one, making our own vitamin C, and we're not.

49:50 And at the same time, this is the critical part we're not making that vitamin C,

49:54 we're accumulating the glucose that we should be using up to make vitamin C.

49:58 <break time=“4.62s"/> I think once

50:04 these genetic-— deficiencies can be addressed,

50:08 the average glucose level would be much lower because

50:12 you'd be using it up to make vitamin C.

50:16 Another important thing to remember too is insulin.

50:20 Insulin...

50:21 can't tell the difference between vitamin C and glucose.

50:27 They're very similar molecules.

50:29 You just make these four mino changes turning glucose into vitamin C.

50:35 And...

50:36 insulin can't tell the difference.

50:38 Now, the important thing about not being able to tell the difference is,

50:42 for example, if you give the patient a large amount of glucose.

50:46 The pancreas reacts with a big surge of insulin to metabolize the glucose...

50:51 Well, guess what?

50:52 If you give a large dose of vitamin C, the same thing happens.

50:56 You get a big surge of insulin from the pancreas

51:00 to metabolize the vitamin C that the pancreas thinks is glucose.

51:05 This comes down to a practical point,

51:07 which is vitamin C and glucose are directly competitive with each

51:12 other under the influence of insulin to get inside the cell.

51:16 So you have a large amount of glucose circulating,

51:19 not much vitamin C circulating.

51:21 You're mostly getting glucose inside the cell...

51:24 But the opposite is true, too.

51:25 If you have your glucose levels down...

51:28 and a big amount of vitamin C,

51:30 then a dose of insulin is going to push mostly vitamin C inside the cell.

51:35 Well, because most diabetics or their physicians are not really aware of this.

51:40 They're just taking their insulin and doing their thing.

51:45 They're...

51:46 not only not dealing well with their glucose...

51:49 excess, but they're getting very little vitamin C inside their cells.

51:55 This makes diabetes one of our worst metabolic diseases because it

51:59 induces a state of what I'll call intracellular scurvy throughout their body.

52:05 There's just no way, you can take vitamin C and that helps.

52:10 But still, if your diabetes is not well controlled,

52:13 you're still going to have a large amount of glucose competing for whatever...

52:19 vitamin C you take to get inside the cell.

52:22 And that's where the action goes.

52:26 The other important thing to round this off is the fact of how a metabolic...

52:32 and infectious or a toxic stress...

52:35 affects the body.

52:36 We all hear about the fight-flight reaction.

52:40 In a nutshell, when you introduce a large amount of toxin...

52:45 or a brand new infection in the bloodstream, what does that do?

52:50 That's causing a lot of oxidation.

52:52 So you're putting a lot of oxidative stress in the bloodstream.

52:57 The natural reaction...

52:59 of the healthy body is for your adrenal glands to secrete cortisol,

53:05 which is your stress hormone, they like to call it.

53:10 Well, they call it stress hormone because...

53:13 oxidative stress causes its release.

53:17 Well, as it turns out.

53:19 Another thing I think that should be kept in mind,

53:22 just like I told you about vitamin C in the immune system.

53:26 And inflammation is that the primary,

53:29 if not virtually exclusive role of cortisol

53:31 is to push vitamin C inside the cell.

53:35 So cortisol in and of itself is not an anti-inflammatory agent.

53:39 It promotes the introduction of the most important anti-inflammatory agent,

53:45 vitamin C, to get inside the cell.

53:48 Anti-inflammatory...

53:49 relieves, relieves inflammation.

53:52 And if inflammation is depletion of vitamin C, what relieves that inflammation?

53:56 Vitamin C.

53:57 So all the wonderful responses you see for inflammation,

54:02 stress, painful joints and everything with corticosteroids...

54:06 is their ability early on to push vitamin C inside the cell.

54:12 If you just take the steroids and nothing else,

54:14 you get a quick burnout phenomenon.

54:16 You sort of push all the available vitamin C

54:19 inside the cells and you're not taking any vitamin C,

54:22 then all you have are steroid side effects in the long term.

54:26 Because it's not appreciated that the primary role of corticosteroids,

54:29 especially cortisol, is to push vitamin C inside the cell.

54:33 So now I put together this picture

54:35 for you where you get stress, you make cortisol.

54:39 And what is the cortisol doing?

54:41 The cortisol is looking for new vitamin C to put inside the cell,

54:45 that your liver should be acutely responding

54:48 to that stress by making more vitamin C,

54:51 just like the adrenal glands are responding to the stress...

54:55 by making more cortisol.

54:56 The two of them working together are wonderful.

55:00 But when they don't work together, what happens then?

55:04 You start to get the corticosteroid side effects.

55:06 There's no vitamin C to be put inside the cell.

55:10 And because the body thinks you should be

55:13 using up your glucose to make more vitamin C.

55:16 What else does a cortisol do?

55:18 It does something called gluconeogenesis.

55:21 It starts breaking down protein, mostly muscle,

55:25 to turn it into glucose to make more glucose to help feed this...

55:29 But you're not converting your glucose,

55:32 so all you're doing is adding to the excess glucose.

55:36 And this is a primary cause for diabetes.

55:40 You're not making your own vitamin C.

55:44 You're not supplementing vitamin C to quell this cortisol reaction.

55:49 So this is where you run into all these situations of elevated cortisol levels,

55:56 hypercortisolemia, Cushing's syndrome, all of these things.

56:01 If they don't disappear,

56:03 especially if they've been around for a long period of time,

56:06 they nearly always go away completely with vigorous vitamin C supplementation.

56:11 Why?

56:12 Because you're finally getting the vitamin C inside the cell...

56:15 And see, that's another stimulus.

56:18 If you don't have enough vitamin C to put inside the cell,

56:22 the body, just like I told you with the heart example,

56:26 where— there's no vitamin C to make the collagen,

56:29 and so the body does something else that's crazy,

56:32 which builds the plaque to make the blood vessel thicker.

56:35 Well, in this case, you're-— not making the vitamin C.

56:40 You're not taking vitamin C.

56:42 The cortisol knows its end goal is to put more vitamin C in your cell,

56:48 and there's not enough vitamin C in the cell.

56:51 What does your body start doing?

56:53 Making more and more cortisol in a failing attempt

56:57 to increase the vitamin C level inside the cell,

57:01 failing because there's no vitamin C left to put inside the cell.

57:05 And this metabolic interplay is the big deal in diabetes.

57:09 And I gotta tell you, you set up for something perfect here.

57:13 Let me go into this, because this is

57:16 something I came across critically and recently,

57:19 and the world needs to know about it.

57:22 The "GLP-1" drugs.

57:24 All right, now be aware that right now,

57:26 the "GLP-1" receptor agonist drugs "Ozempic," <break time=“1.83s"/> semaglutide,

57:32 which is what it is, and the other ones.

57:36 Well, they do something a whole lot more than cause you to lose weight.

57:40 Their physiological function is primarily to do two things.

57:44 Yeah, they suppress the appetite, you might get a little nausea,

57:49 these sort of things but the two things that they do is,

57:53 they raise the resting insulin level.

57:56 So you have more circulating insulin when you're taking these drugs than not.

58:01 But at the same time, by an independent mechanism, not the increased insulin,

58:07 but by an independent mechanism they decrease

58:10 the breakdown of glycogen into new glucose.

58:13 So two primary micrometabolic effects is they raise the resting

58:18 insulin level and they decrease the resting glucose level independently.

58:23 So what does that do then when you take a large amount of vitamin C?

58:27 You open the floodgates for the vitamin C to go inside the cell.

58:31 You've raised the insulin, which pushes vitamin C inside the cell,

58:36 and you've decreased the glucose to compete

58:38 with the vitamin C to go inside the cell.

58:42 And as a point of fact, these drugs have been established,

58:47 I wrote a paper on this if anybody

58:49 wants to see it "tomlevymd.com" under the articles,

58:53 at the bottom article, is these drugs,

58:56 in spite of the massive criticism that they have...

59:00 decrease all-cause mortality.

59:02 When you take them, any of them, any dose, any style,

59:06 any application they all decrease your chances of dying from anything.

59:12 They like to talk about the side effects, this, that, or the other.

59:16 Well, the other thing too is,

59:19 you don't get the side effects if you take large amounts of vitamin C.

59:24 Why is this?

59:25 The whole idea is to dissolve and get rid of fat.

59:31 Well, the first question you have to ask is why do people gain weight?

59:35 Well, in addition to taking in too many calories,

59:38 I'm not going to quibble with that they

59:40 also are characteristically taking in no supplements at all.

59:45 And they're exposed to the same big toxin bag that we're talking about.

59:50 Well, what does your body do to try to deal with toxins?

59:55 It wants you to have a lot of vitamin C to neutralize the toxins in the blood.

1:00:00 And if it does, everything's fine, no problem.

1:00:03 But if you have a lot of toxins in your blood,

1:00:06 no good nutrient or antioxidant to neutralize it,

1:00:09 then the body goes into another one of its reflex compensatory mechanisms.

1:00:13 And that mechanism is the toxins are bad for you,

1:00:17 they're going to cause a lot of problems.

1:00:20 They can't neutralize them, they can't get rid of them,

1:00:24 so they put them into storage.

1:00:26 That's what develops fat— is the accumulation of unneutralized toxins.

1:00:32 And unfortunately it's fat, so they're usually fat-soluble toxins which are very

1:00:38 difficult to get out of your body anyway.

1:00:42 And in fact, they have shown studies where not dramatically, but clearly,

1:00:46 when an obese person starts taking vitamin C for the first time,

1:00:50 they do start losing weight.

1:00:52 That's because they start neutralizing

1:00:53 the toxins that they would otherwise accumulate.

1:00:56 Now, flip this all around.

1:00:58 What's the hysteria about?

1:00:59 Oh well, this could cause pancreatitis

1:01:01 and this caused this and this caused this.

1:01:04 Well, what's going to happen when

1:01:07 an impatient obese person takes the maximal drugs,

1:01:10 starts burning up fat, and they're releasing toxins non-stop?

1:01:15 That's what you call a chronic Herxheimer reaction.

1:01:18 You're just flooding the body 24/7 with toxins

1:01:21 that it has no ability to neutralize.

1:01:24 So, that's going to take any of the diseases that that obese person

1:01:28 would have been subject to otherwise and just increase the chance of them.

1:01:35 The person was maybe destined to get pancreatitis anyway,

1:01:38 they're going to get it sooner.

1:01:40 Or the eye problems, all the other problems that they talk about.

1:01:45 Remember the only cause of disease is toxins.

1:01:48 The only cause of disease is toxins.

1:01:50 And if you neutralize the toxins, you ain't going to develop the disease.

1:01:56 And so, the point I make then is that these drugs.

1:02:03 But predominantly, when you're taking good supplementation,

1:02:06 large doses of vitamin C, you're getting so much more benefit of the vitamin C.

1:02:12 The big problem with vitamin C supplementation

1:02:14 is ultimately getting it inside the cell.

1:02:17 That's why good liposome-encapsulated supplements are very good.

1:02:21 The company I work with, "LivOn," they have an extraordinary product.

1:02:26 Even though there's a lot of liposome

1:02:28 fraud out there and other things, corticosteroids.

1:02:31 I told you the cortisol puts vitamin C inside the cell.

1:02:35 But now, and this is in my paper,

1:02:39 now I'm going to give you some anecdotal stuff.

1:02:43 I started these "GLP-1s" because about five months

1:02:47 ago because I was tired of my 25, 30-pound little belly.

1:02:50 I just said, heck it.

1:02:53 But I'm already supplementing extremely large

1:02:55 amounts of all the good supplements, including vitamin C.

1:02:58 Well I started it and weeks later,

1:03:03 I got rid of symptoms that I've had all my life.

1:03:07 And I was very perplexed by it.

1:03:10 I'm 75 years old now.

1:03:11 I had a chronic cough I had for 50 years that disappeared.

1:03:17 It disappeared.

1:03:19 As a 75-year-old, I was getting up five times a night to urinate.

1:03:23 Now once a night.

1:03:24 Sleep better, energy skyrocket,

1:03:27 all the things that getting more vitamin C inside your cells do.

1:03:32 So, if anybody wants to listen to me, it's my recommendation that a low-dose

1:03:39 "GLP-1" receptor agonist drug like semaglutide orally,

1:03:43 don't have to do the injection.

1:03:45 And it's now available really cheap due to "trumprx.gov" you

1:03:50 can go on there and get $1,100 worth of this drug

1:03:53 now for $125 with your little coupon and go

1:03:56 off and get it with a proper prescription, of course.

1:04:02 This is a major longevity intervention, a major positive health intervention.

1:04:08 Yes, I'm orthomolecular and I reflexly don't like anything prescription.

1:04:13 But you can't make that a blanket.

1:04:15 Every now and then, the the blind dog finds his food.

1:04:20 So you can eventually you will get good pharmaceuticals.

1:04:24 Not too damn many of them, but they do exist.

1:04:28 And this is one.

1:04:29 Even though it's designed for this purpose, that it's evolved,

1:04:32 and I might add, the positive effects on diabetes.

1:04:34 It's used as a treatment for diabetes.

1:04:36 You mentioned the liposomal vitamin C.

1:04:39 Right.

1:04:40 In your book, you talk about the hydrocortisone,

1:04:42 taking that in the morning for certain people to help drive that vitamin C in.

1:04:47 Instead of the "GLP-1," could somebody take one

1:04:48 of those other routes and get similar results?

1:04:49 Right.

1:04:52 Sure.

1:04:55 But this is an important point to remember, at least using myself as an example.

1:05:01 All right, I came across the cortisol-vitamin C

1:05:04 interaction when I had severe chronic "COVID" maybe three,

1:05:08 three and a half years ago now.

1:05:10 It was '21.

1:05:12 And— I had just been reviewing the literature

1:05:15 on that, and so I started taking cortisol with my vitamin C.

1:05:21 Got over it.

1:05:24 I also had a lot of other symptoms get better that I'd had all my life.

1:05:28 And I read up on cortisol, Doctor "Jefferies" book,

1:05:32 "Safe Uses of Cortisol," a wonderful book.

1:05:36 And I realized that in addition to the sex hormones and thyroid hormone,

1:05:41 nearly everybody when they get older, they're low in cortisol.

1:05:46 And like I said, if they have a high cortisol,

1:05:49 they have it because they're not taking enough vitamin C, remember?

1:05:53 But low cortisol...

1:05:53 and the thing is cortisol is so important in getting vitamin C inside your cell.

1:05:58 You can just knock out so many infections right before they start.

1:06:02 You get your first symptom, big dose of hydrocortisone.

1:06:07 Hydrocortisone is the prescribed form of cortisol.

1:06:09 Same molecule.

1:06:11 And so I've been taking 20 milligrams of cortisol because I

1:06:16 really think and I don't want to put this on other people,

1:06:20 but I think my own history,

1:06:22 I've been adrenally insufficient for much longer than recently.

1:06:26 Although, I believe most older people are

1:06:29 not having optimal cortisol levels in the morning.

1:06:33 It should be high in the morning and then taper off as the day goes along.

1:06:38 If yours is not high in the morning, you need some.

1:06:42 It is that simple.

1:06:43 And it's not like taking steroids.

1:06:45 This is called hormone replacement, not hormone treatment.

1:06:49 When you take these 60 milligrams of prednisone for something,

1:06:53 that's like taking a sledgehammer to a mosquito.

1:06:56 We're talking about physiological doses.

1:06:58 Even in the person who has no adrenal function at all,

1:07:02 they don't need more than about 40 milligrams of hydrocortisone a day.

1:07:07 Now, 20 is the number for me.

1:07:09 But anyway, the point I wanted to make, going back to what you're saying, yes,

1:07:14 I take hydrocortisone with my morning dose of insulin every day,

1:07:18 and I've done so for three years now, and I've gotten a lot better.

1:07:23 But in the face of cortisol's ability

1:07:26 to augment my vitamin C concentration inside the cell,

1:07:30 the "GLP-1" drug has further improved that vitamin C uptake,

1:07:34 at least by the clinical symptoms that I've had.

1:07:37 So, yes, a lot of people can get enormous benefit,

1:07:41 and I recommend it really across the board for people who'd be

1:07:45 taking some small dose of hydrocortisone with their morning dose of vitamin C,

1:07:50 because even if your adrenal gland is making enough cortisol,

1:07:54 and that's very rare in an older person, you're not going to suppress the gland.

1:07:58 You're just going to do a little of the work

1:08:00 for the gland and the gland does the rest.

1:08:02 It's not like other <break time=“2.83s"/> glands in the body

1:08:07 that when you do all the work for it,

1:08:09 it atrophies and goes away, and then you're completely dependent.

1:08:12 There's a different situation with the adrenal gland.

1:08:16 So, yes, I strongly recommend the hydrocortisone

1:08:19 with the vitamin C in the morning.

1:08:21 And if you feel great, great.

1:08:22 But if you have any problems going on, I still think this is a primary

1:08:26 health measure that a lot of people can get some extra juice out of.

1:08:31 And important also...

1:08:33 well, they're both prescription drugs.

1:08:34 No, the hydrocortisone is a prescription drug

1:08:37 in the States and the "GLP-1" is, too.

1:08:41 And that's probably the only <break time=“2.52s"/>

1:08:45 negative on their side is that you

1:08:48 just can't get them over the shelf like you might get them in Colombia.

1:08:52 I want to come back to this epigenetic piece.

1:08:54 Sure.

1:08:55 You quickly went over the fact that babies can

1:08:58 make vitamin C because of epigenetic changes adult humans can't.

1:09:05 Do we have any more detail on why that would happen?

1:09:08 If vitamin C is such an important antioxidant

1:09:10 for all these systems and cells in the body, why would that happen?

1:09:15 Good question.

1:09:16 And let me say, do we know exactly what's happening?

1:09:19 No.

1:09:20 But there's some information we can put together, which is, as I said,

1:09:25 most babies can make their own vitamin C because they have a nice

1:09:29 pristine liver and they don't have

1:09:31 the incredible melting pot of toxins early on.

1:09:36 But as they get older, the food and the air and the water changes,

1:09:40 and they do more and more, and start getting older with other little kids,

1:09:45 then they get exposed to more toxins.

1:09:48 I say epigenetic because genetic defect is

1:09:52 where there's an alteration in the "DNA" code.

1:09:55 You got the wrong code there, that's a fixed genetic defect.

1:10:00 In this case, the code for the vitamin C exists,

1:10:05 and the messenger "RNA" gets poorly transcribed,

1:10:08 it hits what's called a stop codon,

1:10:11 and so you end up with an incomplete, non-functioning enzyme.

1:10:15 Once again, going back on what I talked about being the only

1:10:19 cause of disease is excess oxidation it applies here as well.

1:10:24 It would appear.

1:10:25 This is my conclusion.

1:10:27 Do I have a paper that states this?

1:10:29 No, this is my conclusion is that a...

1:10:33 relatively extremely common unique array of toxins as the baby gets older,

1:10:39 there's a greater and greater exposure and it

1:10:42 uniquely for the chemical characteristics of the toxins,

1:10:47 causes abnormal oxidation on this translation site.

1:10:51 Now, having said that, I'm really glad

1:10:55 you asked this, because this is an important

1:10:58 thing to introduce is there have been

1:11:01 discovered agents that reverse or block this blockage.

1:11:06 One of the prominent ones is hydroxytyrosol,

1:11:09 which is a very antioxidant polyphenol that's usually concentrated in high

1:11:16 amounts in olive leaf extract and very clear-cut studies on volunteers.

1:11:24 They take the 50 milligrams of hydroxytyrosol a day, and within two weeks,

1:11:29 they've doubled their resting vitamin C levels inside their blood.

1:11:37 There are different speculations as to what's causing that.

1:11:40 I don't think there's any way possible that it's caused by anything other

1:11:43 than the fact that you're unblocking the— body's ability to make vitamin C.

1:11:48 And to this end, I think I covered this in the book, if not,

1:11:53 I covered it in a paper in order to establish

1:11:56 this, my colleague Doctor "Ron Hunninghake" and a couple years ago,

1:12:03 were taking hydroxytyrosol.

1:12:06 We wanted to-— test the ability of the liver to make more vitamin C.

1:12:11 Now, briefly recalling what happens normally if a non-functioning liver,

1:12:16 in terms of making vitamin C encounters a large amount of toxins

1:12:22 pro-oxidant it metabolizes and uses up all the vitamin C in the blood.

1:12:27 So, whatever your vitamin C level is,

1:12:29 you take a large amount of toxins, the level's going to drop.

1:12:35 Well, what happens if your liver is functioning well,

1:12:38 this is not blocked, and you take a large amount of toxins?

1:12:42 The liver vitamin C production's going to rise.

1:12:46 So, simply measuring blood levels of vitamin C before, during,

1:12:50 and after is going to give you an idea of what your liver is going to do.

1:12:55 So, I went to Wichita, where Doctor "Hunninghake" works and lives,

1:12:59 stayed at his house, and we chose our poisons.

1:13:03 He chose malt beer and I chose scotch whiskey.

1:13:06 And we had some people there to take care of us

1:13:10 and draw blood at the house and everything like this.

1:13:13 So, anyway, he took a large amount of his beer,

1:13:17 I took a large amount of my scotch,

1:13:19 and the both of us, we had nice vitamin C levels at the start.

1:13:25 And the second measurement after we were

1:13:28 already moderately blissed the vitamin C was sky-high.

1:13:33 Not only was it sky-high, it stayed sky-high for a full 24 hours

1:13:38 to metabolize the alcohol until it came back down again.

1:13:42 I consider that personally to be proof positive of the fact that, number one,

1:13:47 we can make our own vitamin C, and number two,

1:13:50 something like hydroxytyrosol is able to reduce

1:13:55 whatever areas got oxidized by this unique

1:13:58 array of toxins that brought about the epigenetic defect to begin with.

1:14:03 Okay.

1:14:04 Given what you just shared there,

1:14:06 these agents that can reverse this change in the liver,

1:14:11 is this a recommended part of your protocol to take

1:14:14 those, or are we just looking at that to see the physiology?

1:14:17 Because it seems like.

1:14:19 It's recommended.

1:14:21 Okay.

1:14:21 No, it's not, it's recommended.

1:14:22 Because to me, it seems like, to objectively make sure on a regular basis you're

1:14:25 getting to those levels in the body of vitamin C, from what you're sharing,

1:14:29 it doesn't sound like that would be a totally reliable way.

1:14:32 But you still recommend putting that into the mix.

1:14:35 Well,— no I don't.

1:14:36 I'm not recommending doing this and not taking any vitamin C at all.

1:14:39 No, I think you should do both.

1:14:41 Also, too, remember what I was talking about the "GLP-1s" too.

1:14:45 And maybe this is also why I responded

1:14:48 so well in my symptomatology is because I've

1:14:51 been taking the olive leaf extract for quite

1:14:54 some time that has a high concentration of hydroxytyrosol.

1:15:00 If you're making your own vitamin C, once again, what else are you doing?

1:15:04 You're using up your glucose,

1:15:06 so you have less glucose circulating because it's being turned into vitamin C.

1:15:10 And then, combine that with the increased insulin level of the "GLP-1"

1:15:14 and then more of the vitamin C goes inside the cell.

1:15:18 For a long time, I had what I call

1:15:20 my Super 8 supplements that I talked about in the book.

1:15:23 And when people ask,

1:15:25 I say this is my highest recommendation for baseline supplementation.

1:15:29 That's not to say X, Y, and Z might not be good for you,

1:15:33 but there's a lot of people that don't have much money.

1:15:36 So I try to give the optimal supplement

1:15:40 program for as minimal an investment as possible.

1:15:43 And recently, I've called it now the Super 8+1,

1:15:46 because I think it's important to include the olive leaf extract.

1:15:51 Well, I wanted to walk through the Super 8 next, so let's get into it.

1:15:55 And we'll start with vitamin C.

1:15:56 We've talked a lot about it, but there's different types, dosages...

1:15:59 Give the 101 on what that looks like.

1:16:00 Okay.

1:16:01 Sure.

1:16:04 I divided it into two sections of four.

1:16:08 The first four are vitamin C, magnesium,

1:16:14 vitamin "D3," and vitamin "K2." First of all,

1:16:18 it needs to be noted that each of these supplements

1:16:22 separately by themselves have been shown to decrease all-cause mortality.

1:16:26 So you know you're onto something good right there when just large

1:16:31 amounts of any one of them decreases your chances of dying from anything.

1:16:35 That also tells you that it's exerting

1:16:38 positive effects on every cell in the body.

1:16:41 How else could it affect all diseases unless it positively affects all cells?

1:16:47 Now, of course, vitamin C, and magnesium are the really foundational ones.

1:16:54 If you don't take vitamin C, you die of scurvy.

1:16:58 But there are so many levels of what I would call subclinical scurvy long before

1:17:03 you get to the point of not having enough vitamin C inside you to survive.

1:17:09 It can be taken in many different ways.

1:17:11 We have the liposomal forms, which are good, but they're a little more costly.

1:17:17 Because I've been a consultant to the company for so long,

1:17:21 I have a really good deal on "LivOn Labs" liposomal vitamin C.

1:17:24 I get all I want, and I understand people that are wanting to cut their budget,

1:17:30 but if you want to have the most reliable way of getting your supplement,

1:17:35 vitamin C inside yourself, this is the way to go several grams a day

1:17:39 of this, because for just two or three grams of the liposomal,

1:17:44 you really need 5, 10, 15,

1:17:45 or more grams of regular vitamin C to give yourself an equivalent impact.

1:17:51 But be that as it may, if you don't have the liposome, then you take.

1:17:55 It's not etched in stone.

1:17:57 Everybody has a different requirement.

1:17:59 But for all intents and purposes,

1:18:01 to put yourself on a schedule you can deal with, taking

1:18:04 something on the order of three grams three times a day,

1:18:07 so you get yourself up to nine grams a day.

1:18:10 Nothing wrong with taking more, and less positive impact, but if you take less.

1:18:17 Again,-— you feel your way through it.

1:18:22 Of course, when you're acutely ill, taking large amounts of the liposomal,

1:18:27 getting yourself an "IV" if you can get a hold of it, those are the ways to go.

1:18:32 Magnesium is incredibly important.

1:18:35 Even though I've written a lot, I've written about magnesium too,

1:18:39 but I've written a lot more about vitamin C.

1:18:43 In the hypothetical, and I only call it hypothetical situation of what's more

1:18:50 important vitamin C supplementation or magnesium

1:18:54 supplementation, believe it or not,

1:18:57 I would tell you magnesium, because when you're not supplementing vitamin C,

1:19:03 other supplements, other antioxidants can partially

1:19:07 compensate for that lack of vitamin C.

1:19:11 Nothing compensates for a magnesium deficiency other than magnesium,

1:19:16 and everybody's deficient in magnesium.

1:19:19 Many diseases are primarily caused by magnesium deficiency,

1:19:24 and 100% of diseases are made worse by it...

1:19:27 This is because the primary chemical abnormality inside a sick cell

1:19:33 that has increased oxidative stress is a high level of calcium.

1:19:38 And unless you can get that calcium down,

1:19:41 you're never going to normalize that oxidative stress.

1:19:45 Well...

1:19:46 the primary way to get that calcium down is to take magnesium.

1:19:50 They have absolutely yin-and-yang effects, one counteracts the other.

1:19:56 You cannot have elevated levels of both inside your cell.

1:20:00 Once you get the magnesium in, the calcium comes out.

1:20:04 And then the vitamin C can accumulate, the glutathione can synthesize,

1:20:09 and you can start making all the other "ATP" and all the good stuff happens.

1:20:14 But none of that good stuff happens until you get the calcium down,

1:20:19 which is nearly always attributable to getting your magnesium up.

1:20:23 So there's your vitamin C and your magnesium.

1:20:27 Then you have vitamin "D3." Let me say

1:20:30 right now for the person who's really poor.

1:20:34 The three things you should always take are vitamin C,— magnesium,

1:20:39 and vitamin "D3."-— Do whatever you can.

1:20:43 Everybody should be taking those three, at least some.

1:20:47 If you can only afford $15 a month,

1:20:50 well then, take a small dose of each every day,

1:20:53 but get some going, because those are your most critical things.

1:20:58 Everybody's deficient in all three.

1:21:00 Unless you're a lifeguard,

1:21:02 you're deficient in vitamin "D3."- Because we live indoors.

1:21:08 We get inside cars, we wear hats, we wear lots of clothes.

1:21:13 We say we're out in the sun, but we're not.

1:21:17 So everybody's low in vitamin "D3,"

1:21:20 and of course everybody's very low in magnesium.

1:21:25 And in...

1:21:25 vitamin C.

1:21:26 Now, vitamin "D3," this is the only one where you

1:21:30 need to get a blood level and a follow-up blood level.

1:21:34 You don't need to get it frequently, but you do a blood level,

1:21:38 and it's low being less than 50 nanograms per "cc." If by some stroke of luck...

1:21:45 you got a 60 resting without supplementing any

1:21:47 vitamin "D3," well then fine, you don't need it.

1:21:50 I haven't run into anybody like that, but if that's the case.

1:21:54 And then if you're a small person,

1:21:57 two or three thousand units a day are going to do it.

1:22:01 Large person, maybe 10,000.

1:22:03 A moderately large-sized person, 5 or 6,000.

1:22:08 I think for most...

1:22:09 normal-sized adults, get your baseline, start taking 5,000 a day,

1:22:14 and then check it again in a couple months.

1:22:17 And then if you're between 50 and 100 in a couple months,

1:22:20 you don't need to check it anymore.

1:22:22 Just stay on that dose indefinitely.

1:22:26 Number three, number four, vitamin "K2." This is also very important in...

1:22:32 getting calcium out where it should not be.

1:22:35 So it's a very important vitamin in your calcium metabolism.

1:22:42 This is in-— micrograms.

1:22:44 So 500 micrograms to a gram a day is fine.

1:22:49 So those are your basic four vitamins.

1:22:54 Well, three vitamins and magnesium that...

1:22:58 regulate and work...

1:23:00 very potently to get oxidative stress down inside your cells.

1:23:04 Now, the second four.

1:23:05 Before you get there, I want to ask some follow-ups on those.

1:23:07 Okay.

1:23:08 Right.

1:23:08 So, magnesium, there are so many different types.

1:23:11 Okay.

1:23:12 What is your favorite, and then dosage, how much per day?

1:23:16 Great question.

1:23:17 It'll take a little while to answer it, but it's a good question.

1:23:20 Yeah, there are numerous forms of magnesium, 10, 15, or more.

1:23:24 You can attach magnesium to so many different things.

1:23:30 Now, they're all good in terms of getting magnesium inside of you.

1:23:34 Some are more effective and better absorbed than others.

1:23:38 But they all do the job.

1:23:40 With that in mind.

1:23:44 For both expense and anti-pathogen effect, I like magnesium chloride...

1:23:49 Very simple, very straightforward.

1:23:51 Now, I want to first say I've got nothing against the other ones.

1:23:55 If you want to take magnesium glycinate,

1:23:57 if you want to take magnesium threonate, that's all fine.

1:24:00 But let me tell you why I recommend the magnesium chloride,

1:24:03 it's because <break time=“2.10s"/> the chloride

1:24:07 anion has a powerful anti-pathogenic effect.

1:24:12 And in the days now, since the pandemic and all,

1:24:16 I say why not make the form of magnesium

1:24:19 that you take also something that, in and of itself, is a potent anti-pathogen?

1:24:25 And there's a number of studies that show that, and it's so ridiculously...

1:24:31 positive as an anti-pathogen.

1:24:33 They actually have test tube, agar plate studies that show that, for example,

1:24:40 certain viruses, magnesium chloride...

1:24:43 knocks out the virus, magnesium sulfate increases the growth of the viruses...

1:24:49 So you can have absolute opposite effects on viral growth.

1:24:53 Now, that's a...

1:24:55 laboratory condition, but it still demonstrates what the agent could do.

1:25:00 So there's nothing wrong with getting...

1:25:03 magnesium sulfate as an "IV" infusion in your "IV," it's going to be good.

1:25:08 It's not going to cause you to get...

1:25:11 overwhelmed with the virus.

1:25:12 But the point is— gargling with salt water,

1:25:15 sodium chloride, the chloride is a very powerful anti-pathogen effect.

1:25:19 And finally, for those who don't know

1:25:23 this, Doctor "Klenner," back in the late 1930s,

1:25:26 took 60 cases of polio, children and infants,

1:25:30 and cured all 60 with intravenous vitamin C.

1:25:34 57 in three days, the other three in two more days,

1:25:37 combination of "IV" and oral.

1:25:40 Guess what?

1:25:40 Very little known.

1:25:42 At the same time, in France, Doctor "Neveu" had also about 10, 11,

1:25:48 12 polio patients all of different ages, some infants,

1:25:52 some children, some young adults, some already beginning with paralysis.

1:25:58 And all he gave them was oral magnesium chloride solution...

1:26:02 and resolved the polio very rapidly in all of them.

1:26:06 So I don't know that there's any other mineral that can do that.

1:26:11 That's why I get back to my recommendation for magnesium.

1:26:15 Now you say, how much?

1:26:17 This gets much more complicated...

1:26:19 because we're very severely depleted in magnesium, and it gets worse every day.

1:26:26 And...

1:26:27 sort of like vitamin C,

1:26:28 it's hard to get enough magnesium in you by the oral route because it too,

1:26:34 like vitamin C, can cause a loose,

1:26:37 osmotic diarrhea when too much accumulates in the colon.

1:26:43 For somebody who really is motivated, I've developed a practical way.

1:26:47 They have red blood cell magnesiums, that's a good one.

1:26:50 You've gotta keep it in the high-normal range,

1:26:53 not the mid-normal or low, but the high-normal range.

1:26:56 Blood levels mean next to nothing, except to tell you if you're severely

1:27:00 depleted in vitamin C if you have magnesium.

1:27:02 If you have a low magnesium blood level,

1:27:05 you're really low in magnesium and severely low intracellularly.

1:27:09 If it's quote-unquote in the normal range, you might be okay intracellularly,

1:27:14 but you're no longer massively depleted in your body.

1:27:18 A practical way, and it's my recommendation for older folks,

1:27:23 especially those who are dealing with heart arrhythmias.

1:27:29 Magnesium is the primary agent that controls

1:27:32 the electrical stability of a heart cell,

1:27:34 just like it controls the electrical stability of a neuron

1:27:38 from keeping it from firing and causing a seizure.

1:27:41 This stabilizes a heart cell and keeps

1:27:44 it from generating a spark for an arrhythmia.

1:27:47 When older patients who have done Holter monitors that's

1:27:50 where you record all your heartbeats for 24 hours,

1:27:53 print 'em out, and you can literally qualify

1:27:56 and quantify any extra beats that are taking place.

1:28:02 Believe it or not, your heart cannot generate an extra beat if

1:28:08 the cellular level of magnesium inside that inside that heart cell is normal.

1:28:14 Now, you might not be able to get the level high enough, but point being is,

1:28:20 if you can do a Holter monitor and it's completely normal,

1:28:25 you're taking enough magnesium.

1:28:28 If they still have extra beats, you need to take more until you reach a point,

1:28:33 of course, where for loose-bowel reasons or whatever, you can't.

1:28:37 But for people and they also have things called biopsy studies,

1:28:41 but who wants to get a muscle biopsy

1:28:43 to determine what the status of the magnesium level is?

1:28:46 But the point is, everybody, or the Docs,

1:28:49 should definitely realize there's a functional nature

1:28:51 to this, and I think it's very important to know that my level

1:28:55 of magnesium is functionally keeping my heart stable.

1:28:59 Because if you have enough magnesium to stabilize your heart muscle cells,

1:29:04 you have enough magnesium everywhere else.

1:29:07 I want to come back to vitamin C.

1:29:08 All right.

1:29:09 Different types there.

1:29:11 We've talked about "IV," liposomal, we have ascorbic acid, sodium ascorbate.

1:29:16 Right.

1:29:19 When it comes to the ones we're gonna take in orally,

1:29:21 between the two I just mentioned there at the end or other forms of vitamin C,

1:29:27 what are your thoughts on different types?

1:29:29 Well ascorbic acid is fine if it doesn't upset your stomach.

1:29:33 So in many ways, sodium ascorbate is the is the gut-calming vitamin C.

1:29:40 You're really never gonna get an upset stomach on sodium ascorbate.

1:29:45 However this is important for people

1:29:47 to realize they have their stomach-protective,

1:29:50 or whatever you call it, vitamin Cs, they're calcium ascorbate.

1:29:55 You don't want to take calcium ascorbate.

1:29:58 We just talked before about high levels of calcium in your cell,

1:30:02 you don't want any supplemental calcium.

1:30:05 Problem is calcium does calm an acidic stomach just like that.

1:30:09 So a lot of people get hooked on "Rolaids" and "Tums"

1:30:12 or this form of vitamin C because it doesn't aggravate their stomach.

1:30:16 Well, sodium ascorbate is not going to do that, so you could take that.

1:30:20 They have another form called ascorbyl palmitate.

1:30:23 That's actually a fat-soluble form.

1:30:26 That's good if you want to deal with oxidative stress

1:30:29 inside the fatty cell walls that you have in your body.

1:30:33 Intravenous can be dealt with in many different ways,

1:30:37 and how you do intravenous depends a lot on what you're treating.

1:30:41 If you're dealing with an acute infection,

1:30:44 like Doctor "Klenner" was back in the day,

1:30:47 well, then you go with intravenous 50,

1:30:49 75, 100 grams and you don't back off until the infection is resolved,

1:30:54 which is usually pretty rapid.

1:30:56 We're not talking about treating something for three, four,

1:30:59 five days with this amount of vitamin C, it responds very, very quickly.

1:31:05 And then you have the hydrocortisone-augmented vitamin C infusions, too.

1:31:11 So it's not just for oral,

1:31:13 but taking doses of hydrocortisone, orally or intravenously,

1:31:18 with and before your "IV" vitamin C infusion or other forms of vitamin C,

1:31:24 is highly effective as well.

1:31:26 What do you think about this talk of ascorbic acid being made from "GMO" corn?

1:31:33 And also, on top of that, whole-food vitamin C versus ascorbic acid.

1:31:38 Great question.

1:31:39 There's also talk that ascorbic acid is only part of the vitamin C.

1:31:43 So share your thoughts.

1:31:45 As they say, I didn't tell you to say

1:31:48 that or ask that, but I'm glad you asked that.

1:31:52 To say it politely, this is such "BS." And the thing is

1:32:00 you have ways of taking vitamin C and purifying it from plant sources.

1:32:04 Vitamin C is something that can be completely synthesized.

1:32:07 Some people recoil against that.

1:32:09 Well, guess what?

1:32:10 The vitamin C molecule is the vitamin C molecule is the vitamin C molecule.

1:32:15 If you have something that was synthesized and it's pure, that's fine.

1:32:20 If you have something that was properly extracted

1:32:22 and purified from a plant origin, that's fine.

1:32:26 You might want to not deliberately use a "GMO" source of something,

1:32:31 but there's going to be nothing of consequence "GMO"

1:32:34 wise left in it once you properly purify it.

1:32:37 So I wouldn't worry about that.

1:32:39 But you can certainly find other sources of vitamin

1:32:43 C that might make you feel more comfortable

1:32:47 in case you're really upset about this idea

1:32:50 of getting a vitamin C from a "GMO" source.

1:32:54 So anyway, vitamin C is vitamin C is vitamin C.

1:32:57 Ascorbic acid is vitamin C, ascorbate is vitamin C.

1:33:01 So sodium ascorbate, vitamin C, hydrogen ascorbate, or ascorbic acid vitamin C,

1:33:06 calcium ascorbate, vitamin C, molybdenum ascorbate,

1:33:09 vitamin C, magnesium ascorbate, vitamin C.

1:33:12 A lot of those are good,

1:33:14 but I don't recommend taking them in their mineral forms because

1:33:17 the amount of vitamin C that you need to take a day...

1:33:21 will give usually too much of the mineral.

1:33:24 Minerals can be pushed to toxicity relatively easily.

1:33:28 You can't make somebody toxic on vitamin C.

1:33:32 Now, this is very irritating.

1:33:35 These whole food forms or natural vitamin C

1:33:38 or whole complex vitamin C that is pure horse hockey.

1:33:43 But let me tell you where the truth lies.

1:33:47 Number one is in the literature.

1:33:50 There's over 80,000, probably about 90,000 articles now showing what

1:33:54 vitamin C can do in different clinical situations.

1:33:58 And all they're using is ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbate in their pure form.

1:34:04 It's not using some whole food complex.

1:34:06 That's number one.

1:34:08 So vitamin C does not need anything else

1:34:11 to have its powerful anti-toxic and anti-pathogen effects.

1:34:15 Now, having said that the more the merrier.

1:34:19 You have in your body what I call an antioxidant matrix.

1:34:23 They're all working together with each other.

1:34:26 So if you can take in good antioxidant bioflavonoids

1:34:30 and polyphenols and other great nutrients from your food, do it.

1:34:35 But don't be blinded or misled into the fact

1:34:38 that your vitamin C is incomplete and not

1:34:40 going to do you any good if you don't take it with a whole bunch of other stuff.

1:34:46 And that is completely manufactured stuff.

1:34:48 When they talk about a P-element, yes,

1:34:52 there might be a matrix inside certain plants,

1:34:54 and you take the whole matrix and vitamin C is a part of it,

1:34:58 where it's a very good supplement.

1:35:00 I'm not going to say any of these natural

1:35:03 supplements that also contain vitamin C are not good.

1:35:07 They're just making it very needlessly expensive to get the amount

1:35:11 of vitamin C that you need on a daily basis.

1:35:15 So I take it mostly marketing.

1:35:17 Everybody wants to sell their product, and in this case,

1:35:20 like I said, the whole food vitamin Cs, they're fine, they're good products.

1:35:25 Why?

1:35:26 Because they have healthy nutrients in them and they have vitamin C.

1:35:29 Does that mean you're going to get the same impact out

1:35:32 of a couple grams of this rather than 15 grams of vitamin C?

1:35:37 No, not even close.

1:35:38 Okay, before we move into the back half of the Super 8 you talked about calcium.

1:35:44 We want to avoid that.

1:35:46 In your book, you also talk about copper and iron.

1:35:49 So we should talk about the other side to this, too.

1:35:52 Things to avoid.

1:35:53 So expand on those.

1:35:55 The toxic nutrient triad.

1:35:59 To make a long story short, we covered that.

1:36:02 The thing is all three of these things, they're absolutely essential for life.

1:36:08 But beyond a very minimal dose, they're toxic.

1:36:11 And all three are absolutely essential in the mechanisms that kill a cell.

1:36:17 So they're all part of natural cell death as well.

1:36:22 So pushing calcium aside for a moment, which you should not supplement ever.

1:36:26 This is a big subject.

1:36:28 It's in the book.

1:36:29 It's in "Death by Calcium," another book I wrote all the data.

1:36:35 Iron and copper are transition fundamental metals.

1:36:38 They're transition metals that relay electrons, pass them along very quickly.

1:36:44 And they are always part of the mechanisms

1:36:48 that increase oxidative stress inside cells.

1:36:51 You increase the iron level inside a cell,

1:36:54 you increase the copper level inside the cell,

1:36:57 you are shooting oxidative stress.

1:36:59 So I think at this point in time

1:37:02 we know increasing oxidative stress is never desirable.

1:37:06 There are so many people that are just

1:37:09 wedded to this idea of the benefits of copper...

1:37:11 It's so wrong.

1:37:13 The more copper you take, the higher your oxidative stress,

1:37:17 the greater your incidence of cancer,

1:37:20 the greater your increase in all-cause mortality.

1:37:23 Always go back to the all-cause mortality...

1:37:25 in many ways.

1:37:26 All the lesser...

1:37:27 studies are not nearly the consequence of, well, what's the bottom line?

1:37:33 If I take this, am I going to live longer?

1:37:35 If I take this, am I going to live shorter?

1:37:37 That's really your ultimate study.

1:37:39 And when that study is well done,

1:37:42 you may leave yourself with some questions about the other studies,

1:37:45 how they relate in certain enzyme reactions...

1:37:48 But the bottom line is,

1:37:49 does it make me healthier or does it make me less healthy?

1:37:52 Now, another primary reason why these should be never supplemented...

1:37:57 is because they're recycled.

1:38:00 Most nutrients and everything you take in, it has a pass-it-all effect.

1:38:04 And you excrete them.

1:38:06 You excrete...

1:38:06 very, very, very little iron or copper.

1:38:10 And when you start supplementing them,

1:38:12 you just increase the body— amount, which is never desirable.

1:38:16 And like I said, iron especially.

1:38:19 Let's leave copper aside, talk about iron.

1:38:22 We have the ferritin test.

1:38:23 The ferritin test looks at the amount of iron that's stored in your body.

1:38:28 And they have some crazy people that's a bad way to...

1:38:32 uninformed people, uninformed Docs that think 50 or 100 ferritin is fine.

1:38:37 No, it's not.

1:38:38 It's toxic.

1:38:39 Not as toxic as 400, but toxic.

1:38:42 Ferritin should be...

1:38:44 less than 20.

1:38:45 And it can't go too low if your blood count is normal.

1:38:51 If you have a normal hemoglobin...

1:38:53 and a normal hematocrit, that's what you need iron for.

1:38:57 And-— if you have enough iron to make normal blood,

1:39:01 you have more than enough iron to fuel every little

1:39:05 enzyme or metabolic reaction that it might be a cofactor in.

1:39:10 Taking an iron supplement,

1:39:11 if you're not iron-deficient anemic and iron-deficiency anemia,

1:39:15 not anemia in general, but iron-deficiency anemia, hypochromic,

1:39:20 microcytic you are poisoning yourself very directly and very profoundly.

1:39:25 So that's the scoop on calcium, iron, and copper.

1:39:28 Okay, just looking at the time here.

1:39:30 I want to make sure we have time to cover

1:39:31 a couple of things I think are really important.

1:39:33 All right.

1:39:35 Not that the back end of the Super 8 isn't,

1:39:37 but I'm going to quickly go over a few.

1:39:39 I'll give you this back end of the Super 8 in 30 seconds.

1:39:41 "B2." Yeah.

1:39:42 Okay.

1:39:43 I was going to say "B3," "CoQ10." And the one

1:39:45 I really want to dive into is methylene blue.

1:39:48 Methylene blue.

1:39:48 Okay, fair enough.

1:39:49 So go ahead and give me your 30-second

1:39:51 overview and then dive into methylene blue.

1:39:53 Well, the whole thing is you want enough "NAD" inside

1:39:57 your brain and all the other areas of the body.

1:40:00 "NAD" supplements are great, but they're needlessly expensive.

1:40:05 Niacinamide, the vitamin "B3," is a direct

1:40:08 precursor of "NAD." You supplement that well, the "NAD" goes up...

1:40:11 Vitamin "B2," riboflavin, for the second stage;

1:40:14 as you mentioned, coenzyme "Q10" for the third stage.

1:40:18 Methylene blue is fascinating because it manages,

1:40:21 if you needed it to directly give an electron

1:40:25 at the fourth stage without even involving the first three stages,

1:40:29 and without even involving the mandatory but minimal

1:40:33 amount of physiological oxidative stress that those steps...

1:40:36 involve.

1:40:37 So you're just going straight to the money.

1:40:39 Giving an electron to cytochrome c oxidase that's the fourth step.

1:40:44 And then that somehow magically passes it along to "ATP" synthase.

1:40:48 And for those listening,

1:40:50 "ATP" is your most important energy-delivering molecule in your body.

1:40:55 If you have high "ATP," you're healthy.

1:40:58 If you have low "ATP," you don't.

1:41:00 So that's the short story there.

1:41:03 Methylene blue is incredible because it's a tiny molecule,

1:41:08 it goes everywhere, it's fat-soluble,

1:41:10 it's water-soluble, it gets almost completely absorbed.

1:41:14 If you have no oral areas available,

1:41:18 you can give it intravenously, but it's not really necessary.

1:41:22 But intravenously, methylene blue by itself has very effectively

1:41:27 and completely resolved patients dying of advanced septic shock.

1:41:33 Low blood pressure, sepsis that's about as sick

1:41:35 as you could be before you're actually dead.

1:41:38 And methylene blue as a single agent has repeatedly brought people out of this.

1:41:43 Still not used that much in that way, but very effective in that way.

1:41:48 Now, one point, and this brings us back to the vitamin C and the electrons,

1:41:53 is oxidized versus reduction.

1:41:55 All your electrons should come, are going to come, from your nutrition.

1:42:00 Methylene blue, as it stands, is oxidized.

1:42:03 So methylene blue, you're giving it as an electron-depleted agent,

1:42:07 but it picks up the available electrons in the body and then distributes them.

1:42:12 So vitamin C, methylene blue, and other antioxidants are electron distributors,

1:42:18 not primary electron suppliers.

1:42:20 But methylene blue, I've been taking that for years now and it's a phenomenal,

1:42:25 phenomenal, phenomenal agent.

1:42:28 Talk about mixing that in a glass with vitamin C,

1:42:32 making the leucomethylene blue and the differences there.

1:42:36 That's interesting because, like I just said, and that proves what I just said,

1:42:41 is that when you take and it's usually ascorbic acid.

1:42:44 For some reason, sodium ascorbate doesn't have the same effect.

1:42:48 But you put some ascorbic acid powder inside a blue solution of methylene blue,

1:42:53 if the doses' amounts are correct,

1:42:55 you'll clarify that solution and turn it into clear leucomethylene blue.

1:42:59 And that's because the vitamin C donates the electrons to the methylene blue,

1:43:04 turning it into leucomethylene blue, which clears it up.

1:43:09 There's no need to supplement it that way,

1:43:11 but it's one of many good ways to supplement it.

1:43:13 When you just have the methylene blue, I finally got to the point where I got

1:43:18 tired of blue stains on the counter, on my clothes,

1:43:20 on my hands, and you just take a dropper-full and open up and just

1:43:24 touch it on the back of your tongue and squeeze it in there.

1:43:28 Very, very good, minimally bitter taste for three or four seconds,

1:43:31 and then you're fine.

1:43:33 They also make different companies are finally starting

1:43:38 to make methylene blue pills and methylene blue capsules.

1:43:44 One thing I think I've heard you talk

1:43:47 about on another show is taking that ascorbic acid

1:43:50 with the methylene blue and oxidizing the vitamin C

1:43:53 and that being able to penetrate the blood-brain barrier.

1:43:58 Excellent point, too.

1:44:01 Because they have other studies that show "DHAA," dehydroascorbic acid,

1:44:07 versus ascorbic acid.

1:44:08 "DHAA" is the oxidized, electron-depleted form,

1:44:12 but it's electrically neutral it doesn't have a charge and it passes

1:44:17 right across the blood-brain barrier

1:44:19 and cellular barrier using the glucose transporters.

1:44:23 So, yes, "DHAA," the oxidized form of vitamin C,

1:44:27 in animal studies has been shown to be as good as or better than regular vitamin

1:44:33 C in preventing brain damage from experimentally induced

1:44:38 strokes in laboratory animals and that sort of thing.

1:44:42 So, no, I think "DHAA" would be a superior way to take vitamin C,

1:44:48 but they don't make it.

1:44:50 It's available for research studies.

1:44:52 All the supplement manufacturers think all the supplements

1:44:56 have to be in their reduced form.

1:44:59 But guess what?

1:44:59 Coenzyme "Q10," ubiquinone, and ubiquinol they come available in oxidized

1:45:04 and reduced forms and both are fine.

1:45:06 Same thing with vitamin "K2," menaquinone and menaquinol.

1:45:10 All right, Doctor "Levy," we're gonna leave it there for today.

1:45:13 All right.

1:45:14 I'm gonna link up your books, your website.

1:45:15 Really enjoyed this.

1:45:16 Your book's fantastic.

1:45:18 I read your latest book, really enjoyed it.

1:45:20 Learned a lot.

1:45:21 Thank you.

1:45:22 Thank you, sir.

1:45:23 Thanks for having me on.

1:45:25 Spread the word.

1:45:26 Thank you for watching.

1:45:27 Stick around here for this other great interview.

1:45:30 You don't want to miss it!

1:45:31 I'll see you over there.

1:45:32 I don't think that many doctors get this that energy

1:45:36 delivery mechanisms are at the root of all pathological conditions.

1:45:40 Almost without exception,

1:45:42 they are vital in preventing and reversing dementia, preventing and-

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