Joe Rogan Experience #2486 - Luis J Gomez

0:01 Joe Rogan podcast.

0:03 Check it out.

0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

0:06 TRAIN BY DAY.

0:06 JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT.

0:09 All day.

0:13 Special and then [music] I just[ __] fell off.

0:15 I had a margarita at dinner once and I was like, "All right, I'm back."

0:19 Yeah, that'll do it.

0:19 It's just that one.

0:20 You think I'll have one?

0:22 It was nice.

0:23 It just I was drinking too much because the, you know,

0:26 owning a club there all the time,

0:29 you know, how everyone's like, "You want a shot?

0:31 You want a drink?" Yeah.

0:32 I can imagine when I'm at your club, I get blackout drunk every time.

0:35 Like an actual problem.

0:36 Like I walk down the stairs, I'm like, "What the[ __] just happened?

0:38 [laughter] I drink so much at the mothership." Austin in general.

0:41 Are we on?

0:42 Are we?

0:42 I think we're rolling.

0:43 Yeah.

0:43 The problem is Shane.

0:44 [laughter] Oh yeah.

0:46 He's an animal.

0:46 I don't know how he does it.

0:47 I did the Bridgestone Arena with him on Friday night.

0:50 Uh, I mean, first of all, just insane.

0:52 Like 20,000 people.

0:53 I mean,[ __]

0:56 nuts.

0:55 Saturday night, I did 95 people at the dojo of comedy.

0:58 Is that the first time you did a big one in the round?

1:01 In the round is like oddly intimate, isn't it?

1:03 Cuz everyone's facing each other.

1:05 Yeah.

1:05 You can uh It feels like it's a club around you on the bottom.

1:08 You kind of like It's so funny cuz people get like so in their head.

1:11 They're like, "Dude, it's all these people.

1:12 It's crazy." I'm like, "I performed to half sold out comedy clubs.

1:15 Do you know how much more nerve-wracking it is

1:17 to make eye contact with your fans that are disappointed

1:19 that they're in a half sold out room [laughter] that 20,000

1:22 people that are just there to be like[ __] Shane?

1:25 It's one of those things you just do it

1:26 a couple of times and you get it gets normal.

1:29 Yeah,

1:29 like all things.

1:30 I'm sure.

1:31 Yeah, like all that's more fun, dude.

1:32 It is very fun.

1:33 Oh, it's so much more fun.

1:34 I would I would just so you guys know,

1:36 I would way rather perform to 20,000 people than 100.

1:38 [laughter]

1:39 I just want you to know that.

1:40 I don't know if that's a unique idea, but

1:42 Yeah.

1:42 100's good too though cuz a 100 really shows you if your bits are[ __] Yeah.

1:47 You know 100 shows you the weak links in and bits.

1:51 You see them checking their phone.

1:52 No, it's in you feel it.

1:55 Yeah.

1:54 You feel like you're delivering them horseshit, you know?

1:58 You you feel like you're not appreciating what you're saying.

2:03 Yeah.

2:02 You know what I mean?

2:03 Of course.

2:03 And I think it's also like uh it's it's such a spectacle when you go to like

2:07 an arena where it's like people are like

2:09 so lit and pumped to just like be there.

2:12 They're so happy.

2:13 They're so excited.

2:14 I I don't know how Sabrina Carpenter just came up in my feed um from Coachella.

2:18 Little hot child.

2:19 [laughter] And uh she's like this.

2:21 All my algorithm is now Sabrina Carpenter.

2:23 My daughter loves her.

2:24 I'm sure.

2:24 Yeah.

2:24 Uh my girlfriend loves her.

2:26 And [laughter]

2:27 she's got some good jams.

2:28 That espresso song.

2:30 That's a really good song.

2:31 Yeah.

2:31 Manchild.

2:32 She's got some songs.

2:32 That's my[ __] dude.

2:33 It's become my[ __] I never heard any of her music before this past week,

2:37 but the Coachella stuff has all been showing up

2:39 and like I'm watching these girls watch Sabrina Carpenter.

2:42 They're so happy.

2:43 So happy.

2:43 There like nothing will like they're like

2:46 just they're like just having the best moment of their life.

2:49 These 16-year-old girls are like[ __] Sabrina Carpenter.

2:52 That's why like people got to chill on things

2:54 that they think suck cuz it's just not for you, man.

2:58 And that's okay.

2:59 Yeah, that's okay.

3:00 Like spending all your time dwelling on things that aren't for you is so crazy.

3:06 It's a crazy thing.

3:07 It's such a waste of time.

3:08 It's internet culture.

3:08 That's what it is.

3:09 Like the internet and social media became

3:11 a thing where we gave everyone a voice.

3:12 Everyone has to have an opinion.

3:14 Nobody wants to admit they're wrong, right?

3:15 And they have to have a hot take everything that happens within minutes.

3:19 Y not even a moment to to to let me reflect.

3:21 Let me just do a little bit of research.

3:22 Let me just look up a couple facts.

3:24 They just jump into whatever their opinion is.

3:26 And that's the same thing when it comes to like um you

3:28 know entertainment and you know all you dude you know better than any

3:32 I was I was talking to Jamie before like you and Tony

3:33 have become so big that it's become like um like it's like culture.

3:38 It's not even like like I know you guys.

3:40 You know what I'm saying?

3:40 So it's like it's but it's like when I remove myself from it,

3:43 it's like you guys are as big as Sabrina Carpenter.

3:46 Like having a conversation about Joe Rogan going

3:47 to the White House or Sabrina Carpenter at Coachella.

3:50 That's trending[ __] You know what I'm saying?

3:52 and people feel like they have to come out

3:54 and just give their opinion on it right away.

3:57 If you don't like it, don't like it.

3:58 But that's also like if you don't want people to have their opinions on you,

4:03 don't go to the White House.

4:04 [laughter] That's a great point.

4:07 You know, like I don't fault them for getting, you know, whatever,

4:11 whatever hot take, getting mad at me for whatever reason, go ahead.

4:15 Yeah, that's that's your thing.

4:17 You're you're allowed to.

4:18 You're supposed to like if you're a comic, too.

4:21 You're supposed to[ __] on people if you think they're doing something stupid.

4:24 Yeah.

4:24 Do you get offended when comics[ __] on you?

4:27 No.

4:28 Never.

4:28 No.

4:28 I mean, I'm in the I'm in this weird zeitgeist thing.

4:31 I don't get offended.

4:32 Some of them I think it's lame because I think I know them.

4:35 Like, I'm friends with them and they're like using me to get clout.

4:38 Like, if you really had a problem with me, you could just text me.

4:41 Yeah.

4:42 You know, if you really

4:43 felt like I was an antiaxer and I

4:45 was endangering people's lives,[ __] text me, bro.

4:48 Do you know me?

4:50 Yeah.

4:49 It's weird.

4:50 It's weird when people do that and maybe they feel

4:52 like an obligation even though they know you to speak publicly.

4:55 There's a lot of people that feel like they they have to use their voice

4:59 like when something is wrong they have to come out and say it which

5:02 also boredom.

5:03 They just I understand the inclination.

5:05 I understand the inclination and that people will tell

5:07 you that that you need to use your voice.

5:09 And if you feel like you need to use your voice, okay?

5:13 But what I'm saying is there's far too many people out

5:16 there dwelling on things they do not like versus things they like.

5:20 And this life is[ __] short.

5:23 It does.

5:24 I am 58 years old.

5:25 I'm almost 59.

5:26 That's dead.

5:28 That's [laughter] old as[ __]

5:29 Yeah.

5:29 20 years best case scenario, right?

5:31 If everything goes great and what are those 20 years like?

5:33 I mean, I'm holding it together thanks to ways

5:35 to well and and my obsessive need to work out,

5:38 but other than that, man, I feel it.

5:41 I feel it's slipping away.

5:42 It's gonna

5:44 It's crazy.

5:44 Like, I'm 44.

5:45 I just turned 44 a couple weeks ago,

5:47 and like best case scenario, like absolute best case scenario, midlife.

5:53 Midlife.

5:53 Yeah.

5:53 Best case.

5:53 My My aunt has never worked out a day in her life.

5:56 She's 89 years old.

5:57 She's just a a fat old Italian lady.

5:59 She eats whatever she wants.

6:01 That's the move, man.

6:01 It might be.

6:02 Dude, why am I so obsessed with trying to get

6:04 in shape and eating right and doing all this other stuff?

6:06 My fat aunt just does whatever she wants and she's just an old Italian lady.

6:10 She's just she's going to she's she's as young as I've ever remembered her.

6:14 She's so with it.

6:15 It's so funny to me.

6:16 I've vacationed in Italy a bunch of times

6:18 and I've gone to these little small towns.

6:20 There's always like a really nice restaurant.

6:22 This little small town you have to take like a van up into the hills.

6:25 Yeah.

6:25 You're on like a like a cliffside with like no guardrail.

6:29 You get to these places and you see these people

6:32 having these like three and a half hour dinners.

6:35 Everyone's relaxed.

6:36 They're all laughing.

6:37 Their families around and

6:40 four generations, there's 170y old, but no one's stressed out.

6:45 Yeah.

6:44 They're not all freaked out like Americans are.

6:47 They're also not fat.

6:49 [laughter]

6:51 Yeah.

6:50 The these thin people, they're And they're eating bread.

6:54 They're eating bread and pasta and[ __]

6:57 gelato and they're not smoking cigarettes and they live to be hundred.

7:01 My favorite uh place to visit Italy.

7:04 I brought my son for a father-son trip there years ago.

7:06 Then I just brought my whole family last year.

7:07 We went to uh Venice and Rome

7:09 and uh yeah, dude.

7:11 I I I have like a gluten intolerance.

7:12 Like if I eat a sandwich, I'm just going to You'll see it in my face.

7:16 Like all I did was eat pasta, bread, gelato the whole time.

7:21 The whole time.

7:22 And you were fine.

7:22 I lost five pounds.

7:24 I was there for a week.

7:24 I lost five[ __] pounds.

7:26 People are like, "Dude, it's the walking." I was like,

7:27 "It's not the walking." I I walking does not lose[ __] You

7:31 don't lose weight from walking if you're a person who actively exercises.

7:35 We are being poisoned.

7:38 Yeah.

7:37 100%.

7:37 And the, you know, RFK Jr.

7:39 has been working really hard to try to stop a lot

7:42 of what is[ __] with us with our diet in America.

7:46 God, the resistance is crazy.

7:49 Yeah.

7:49 Well, listen.

7:50 People decide what side they're on and they go,

7:52 "I don't care how good it might be.

7:55 __] you.

7:56 You're part of Trump's cabinet." It's a little of that, but what

7:59 I'm talking about is the resistance from corporations.

8:02 Oh, yeah.

8:02 I'm sure.

8:03 And the effect that they have on policy and then the reality of economics.

8:07 Like here was a big one.

8:08 Like he had to um he had to pass.

8:13 So there's this thing.

8:15 Do you know what glyphosate is?

8:17 No.

8:17 Okay.

8:17 So, it's uh an herbicide that they spray

8:19 on plants and uh it's super bad for you.

8:23 It's super bad for you and it's banned in a lot of countries,

8:26 but it's used ubiquitously in the United States

8:30 and there's some extraordinary number of people glyphosate

8:35 on the wheat.

8:35 Is this what they're spraying on the wheat?

8:37 Exactly.

8:37 So, they spray it on the wheat as a desiccator.

8:39 So, they spray it on the wheat after the wheat

8:41 has already been harvested to keep it from growing mold,

8:44 which is crazy.

8:45 They're going to spray poison to make sure that life doesn't grow on your wheat.

8:50 That's really what's going on.

8:51 Like like mold is a type of life and they want to make

8:55 sure it doesn't grow on this wheat that they're going to sell you.

8:57 So they spray poison.

8:59 [laughter]

9:01 So RFK Jr.

9:02 was trying really hard to stop that.

9:04 But Trump essentially said that if they passed this ban

9:08 on glyphosate and they forced all these farmers to stop moving glyphosate,

9:12 it would destroy the farm market in America.

9:16 It would destroy it.

9:18 Like 90 something% of these people use glyphosate.

9:22 Wow.

9:22 And you're like, that's cuz they have to like it's it preserves it essentially.

9:26 So they could keep it longer and

9:27 for wheat and and then corn actually has like Roundup ready corn

9:32 so you could spray it on the corn and it survives this[ __]

9:36 Yeah.

9:36 So like it kills all the weeds around it but the corn survives.

9:39 We got this nuclear corn.

9:41 That's bizarre.

9:41 And what's crazy is our whole system depends on it.

9:46 Like we've got a bad system and the solution is keep the bad system

9:51 for now because if we don't if we don't feed people poison then we'll go under.

9:56 [laughter] It's so crazy.

9:59 And that's how that's what it is in America.

10:01 That's why when you go to Italy you

10:03 get that Italian flour which is heirloom wheat.

10:07 So, you know, Maynard from Tulle,

10:08 he explained this to me because he owns restaurants

10:11 and he said that when you're getting wheat from America,

10:14 it's like got a higher uh yield per acre cuz it's like more gluten dense.

10:20 It has more complex glutens in it and your body just goes whoa.

10:26 Like this is a lot.

10:27 You know that feeling that like whoa cuz you're essentially eating glue, right?

10:31 when you eat pasta that you have it in Italy

10:34 or I'm not saying it doesn't have calories but there's

10:37 a difference in the way it feels when it goes

10:39 in your body there's not a resistance it feels like food

10:43 when I become a glutton and I eat like a whole pizza in America

10:46 if it's not at a good spot that you know uses Italian wheat

10:50 I feel like I[ __] poison myself

10:53 I literally feel um I mean almost like a a hangover a weird

10:58 like you feel it like in your veins

11:00 so I don't know if that's the complex glutens.

11:02 I don't know if that's glyphosate.

11:05 I think the glyphosate thing is probably dangerous,

11:08 but yet also possibly overstated.

11:11 So, it seems like the the very low

11:13 levels of glyphosate our body can tolerate it.

11:16 But the real question is like why are we[ __] tolerating it?

11:18 Like why is that there?

11:21 Yeah,

11:21 cuz there's people that think that that's

11:22 what you're reacting to when you're eating wheat.

11:24 That you're reacting to your your body's just like what is this?

11:26 I don't like this[ __] herbicide that's

11:28 Well, that's also happened as I got older.

11:30 I don't even know what it was.

11:31 Like I just I never really had an issue with like pizza,

11:34 pasta, wheat, anything when I was a kid.

11:36 I could eat a peanut butter jelly sandwich to my mid20s.

11:39 It just hit me in a different way.

11:40 And I don't actually I don't know if

11:42 you can develop a gluten intolerance or a gluten

11:44 seems like a lot.

11:45 It happens to a lot of people as they get older.

11:46 I wonder what that is.

11:47 I wonder if that's just your body just like e[ __] enough, dude.

11:51 Your body just gives up on it.

11:53 It's like But when you were young,

11:54 it's running more efficiently just naturally.

11:56 You're you're young.

11:57 You're full of hormones.

11:58 your body, the cells are replicating perfectly.

12:01 Everything you're a[ __] animal,

12:04 everything's great and I think your body could just burn it off.

12:07 Like that's why hangovers weren't as bad when I was 20 either.

12:10 No.

12:10 Yeah, hangovers were no big deal.

12:11 Just have some water the next day and you'll be good.

12:14 Yeah, it was not that bad, dude.

12:16 Hangovers.

12:16 If I have a hangover at 58, I'm like, what?

12:18 What are you trying to die early, you[ __] idiot?

12:21 That's what I was saying about Shane at the the stadium or the the arena before.

12:24 It's like he's we get there and I wasn't even drinking.

12:27 I stopped drinking um you know regularly here and there,

12:30 but I I I was just the best shape and the best

12:33 mental state I've ever been in my life was when I'm completely sober.

12:36 Completely sober, eating healthy, exercising every day.

12:39 That right there is the best.

12:40 It's the best version of everybody.

12:41 It's not a unique thing to myself, right?

12:43 But Shane, I was like, you know, he's[ __] changed.

12:45 He was like, "Come on, you got to have a drink.

12:46 Come on." Yeah.

12:47 So, I was like, I started drinking whiskey.

12:49 The best version of Shane is 11 Bud Lights.

12:52 [laughter] After 11, he's just unstoppable.

12:56 He's a jolly drunk.

12:58 That's why

12:58 I don't know how he does it.

12:59 I don't know if I can have done it for more than two, three nights in a row.

13:02 I I would die.

13:03 You ever smoke weed with a rapper?

13:04 It's the same[ __] It's like people get used to things.

13:07 You know, try smoking weed with Whis Khalifa.

13:10 Whisk should try smoking weed with me.

13:12 Really?

13:11 Are you kidding me?

13:12 Are you really You calling him out?

13:13 I used to be Bring it on Whis Khalifa.

13:15 I used to be I mean I'm talking about an all day

13:18 every day get up in the morning just to get going five dabs.

13:21 Like I like real deal pthead.

13:24 Blunt to the head.

13:25 M

13:26 I smoked one to the head a week ago right before I

13:28 trained and uh my my sparring partner was like you smell like weed.

13:31 I was like I could never in a million years

13:33 but it's just I'm so used to it that I becomes a normal state.

13:37 Well

13:38 jiu-jitsu.

13:38 Everyone smokes weed before training.

13:40 A lot of people smoke.

13:40 It's a dirty secret of jiu-jitsu.

13:43 A lot of people smoke weed before jiu-jitsu.

13:44 What is Whiz doing up the nose?

13:46 Nose dab.

13:47 Yeah.

13:47 Oh no.

13:48 You don't need to do that.

13:48 Why would you do that?

13:49 Whiz that dude's jacked.

13:51 You ever see what Whiz looks like?

13:52 He got really into Muay Thai like like heavily.

13:54 So he brings the guy with him everywhere he goes and hits pads.

13:57 He's[ __] ripped, dude.

13:59 I mean, like a 10 pack.

14:00 It's crazy.

14:01 He looks[ __] great.

14:02 And his technique looks pretty solid.

14:04 Just gets high, kick[ __] How fun is that?

14:05 What a life.

14:06 Well, there's a thing about when you're high, you feel your muscles more.

14:10 Like you feel like the little fibers,

14:12 you know, instead of it being a blunt thing,

14:14 it's like you have access to all the fibers.

14:17 Yeah.

14:17 And it's also you like um with jiu-jitsu specifically,

14:20 you you get into like a flow state where you close your eyes and you're

14:24 just[ __] feeling things and it's like I think that can actually help it.

14:29 Um I think it's a performance enhancer.

14:30 I really do.

14:31 I always felt like my jiu-jitsu game was 10% better if I was high.

14:35 Really?

14:34 Yeah.

14:34 No[ __] Yeah.

14:35 I've really felt that.

14:37 I think Eddie would agree with that, too.

14:38 I think a lot of people agree with that.

14:41 Yeah.

14:41 You know, I think same thing with comedy.

14:42 It's like it it's it can it can be it can be.

14:45 I think if you're getting high every day and then

14:48 if you switch it up then it's a performance enhancer.

14:51 Like being right now being completely sober like

14:53 I feel like I'm on a roller roll.

14:54 Like I feel like I'm completely locked in in a different way.

14:58 Um whereas like you and then I'll stop smoking

15:00 weed for 6 months then I'll go back to it.

15:02 I'm like oh I've never been more creative.

15:03 It's just I think it's just changing

15:05 your mindset in whatever way you can do that.

15:07 Yeah.

15:07 That's why people are so locked in and they're like

15:09 having the same opinions their entire lives.

15:11 It's like somebody called me out on Twitter today.

15:13 They were like, "Dude,

15:13 you flip-flop constantly on things." I was like, "You mean I've grown?

15:17 You've been watching me for 15 years on podcast.

15:19 I'm now listen flipflop.

15:22 [laughter] I'm Captain Flip-flop." And then I just

15:25 don't think you should be married to your ideas.

15:27 I think the real problem is once you say something and then you

15:31 have to defend it and then once you find out that it's wrong,

15:34 you you[ __] panic and then you double down and then

15:38 you try to defend it in some weird[ __] circular logic way.

15:43 And you'll get there.

15:43 You'll probably, if you're smart enough,

15:45 guys will just figure out a way to ask backwards their logic.

15:49 But every once in a while, it's so nice to go,

15:50 "Oh, dude, I was completely wrong about that."

15:52 See, you win any argument with a girl.

15:54 In this world, the world that you and I are in, we have conversations publicly.

15:59 It's

15:59 right.

15:59 And that's what's something that a lot of people don't do.

16:01 So, if you have conversations publicly,

16:03 then the the whole world can essentially go, "No, you're wrong." Yeah.

16:08 You know, which is very valuable.

16:11 very valuable for be being able to formulate opinions.

16:14 Most people don't[ __] have that, dude.

16:15 So, most people, they just like if they're wrong

16:18 about something and they've said it publicly and shamed people,

16:21 you know, you better do this because of that and this and they're wrong.

16:25 Once they find out they're wrong,

16:26 they[ __] panic and there's not much you can do about it.

16:29 Like, you're just wrong.

16:31 And the only thing you could do if you want to keep any credibility

16:33 and say says this is what I thought and this is why I thought it,

16:36 but I don't think that anymore.

16:38 And I was wrong.

16:40 Yeah,

16:41 I[ __] that up.

16:41 But this new information I want you to have, too,

16:44 cuz this is why I'm tell you why I thought what I thought and why it changed.

16:49 Yeah, I mean, be able to do that.

16:51 I think it's just a weird thing in society.

16:52 People will not.

16:53 They will.

16:54 People want to pretend they're smarter than they are.

16:55 That's the thing, man.

16:56 Everybody wants to pretend they're[ __] smarter than they are.

16:58 We're all talking monkeys.

17:00 Yeah, we're idiots.

17:01 All of us.

17:02 Every[ __] person alive is a talking monkey.

17:04 So, the internet is the best and the worst thing that's ever

17:07 happened cuz now all the monkeys can scream Everybody can get mad.

17:12 Everybody can complain.

17:13 But it's also great.

17:15 And you used to have time to reflect.

17:16 You said so what would happen is something would happen, right?

17:18 Whatever it is, some big event, right?

17:20 And it happens on Friday, right?

17:22 Like I don't have I I got to sit on this until Monday.

17:24 I'll talk to my my wife or some friends at home,

17:26 but it's like until I get to work on Monday, I can't

17:30 spout these ideas and my opinions.

17:31 And you kind of reflect on it.

17:32 You sit on you're on the toilet taking a[ __] thinking about things.

17:34 We don't have that anymore.

17:35 It's just all distraction constantly.

17:38 And it's like just I I mean the amount like I the only time I ever like reflect

17:43 is if I'm working out or I'm sitting

17:44 in the steam room got to put the phone away.

17:47 You literally can't do anything, right?

17:49 Um but even you're taking a[ __] dude.

17:50 Back in the day, taking a[ __] used to be like the best thinking time.

17:53 [laughter]

17:53 People like magazines.

17:56 Yeah.

17:55 You know, you sit there reading Life magazine while you're taking a dump.

17:59 What you just said was like very important.

18:01 this what you just so what we're talking

18:04 about is people being able to talk about things.

18:08 Now imagine what life was like cuz we both How old are you?

18:13 44.

18:12 Okay.

18:12 So you lived it a little bit but I really lived it where there was no internet.

18:18 And if there was no internet,

18:19 you couldn't talk to anything about anybody about anybody

18:23 about anything because everything that came up in the news,

18:26 like you'd see it on the news, you go,

18:28 "What is going on?" You get like this quick snippet and then you'd

18:30 have to go to a newspaper and you'd read the newspaper and go,

18:33 "What the[ __] are we doing in Venezuela?"

18:35 And at this point, 99% of people are already out.

18:38 Even right there, that people like, "Yeah, I'm not going to the library.

18:41 I'm not getting a newspaper."

18:42 Guy who goes to work and you know,

18:44 how much time do you have to talk to people about things?

18:46 You have stuff to do.

18:48 You can't be the guy that corners people when they're getting coffee.

18:51 Do you hear what we're doing in Nicaragua?

18:52 [laughter] So, we're selling cocaine in Los Angeles.

18:55 The CIA is selling cocaine in Los Angeles

18:58 to fund the Contra versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua.

19:01 Did you know that?

19:01 You're like,

19:03 uh, I have work to do.

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19:48 And so you never got to express yourself.

19:51 What are you going to do?

19:52 Start a[ __] ham radio channel?

19:54 What are you going to do?

19:55 There was no way to express yourself.

19:57 That was that.

19:57 And it was, bro, if you did start a radio channel, here's the crazy thing.

20:00 They would lock you up.

20:01 Yeah.

20:02 Do you know that?

20:03 You had to have an FCC license.

20:05 What was that movie?

20:06 Yeah.

20:06 Christian Slater.

20:07 Christian Slater.

20:07 Pump up the volume.

20:08 Pop up the volume.

20:09 Pop up the volume.

20:10 what he was doing.

20:10 He was podcasting from a car before there was podcast.

20:13 This is 1990.

20:14 They were chasing him down and they were trying to arrest him.

20:17 He was the rebel.

20:18 And wasn't he saying like

20:21 17 some stuff like go out there and live your life or something?

20:23 Like what was he saying?

20:24 Did he have like a pump you up speech?

20:26 Everybody was listening to this.

20:27 It wasn't even that controversial like you know the man, you know.

20:30 Yeah.

20:30 What was he saying?

20:31 Like he's he's ranting.

20:34 It's like low-level podcasting.

20:36 But he might be the first podcast.

20:39 Maybe.

20:39 No.

20:39 I'm I'm like, "No bullshit."

20:42 Yeah.

20:41 Like that idea in that movie might have been, you know,

20:45 cuz it's always like one idea builds

20:47 on and then new inventions and then builds on.

20:50 Yeah.

20:50 The one idea is this sexy rebel who's out there yelling,

20:56 "Fuck the man." And he's, you know,

20:58 like a van running from the cops because he's gonna put

21:00 him in a cage because he made his own radio station.

21:04 That's wild.

21:04 And that's what we're doing right now.

21:06 Yeah.

21:06 There was uh Yeah.

21:07 Yeah, I mean I I lived pre- internet, you know,

21:09 and internet sort of high school, 9th grade or so.

21:12 That's when it started popping off.

21:14 Podcasts show you straight up that the free market

21:18 is much better than than regulations by the government

21:23 because you're never going to get this kind of a show if

21:26 the government gets to regulate you and they tell you you can't swear,

21:30 they can't tell you you can't be obscene, there's certain things you can't say.

21:33 Well, now it's just now it's just YouTube and Google that'll tell you that.

21:36 But they did [laughter] they but they don't do it as much.

21:38 No, not nowhere near as much.

21:40 But it's the new way to sort of combat that is demonetization.

21:44 Like, right.

21:44 But here's the thing.

21:45 The market dictates that too because if if someone else

21:48 comes along and says we're not going to do that.

21:50 So there's a reason why YouTube is

21:52 like loosened up some of its content restriction.

21:55 Yeah.

21:55 Cuz Rumble came out, Kick came out.

21:57 Yes.

21:57 Also, they were wrong.

21:59 Like a lot of the restrictions were during CO and they were wrong.

22:02 They were they were telling people if you bring up

22:04 the lab leak theory we'll kick you off of YouTube.

22:07 Yeah.

22:07 A lot of people a lot of people got completely

22:09 lost their channels like lost their way to make money.

22:12 You could say the earth is flat.

22:14 There's[ __] millions.

22:15 There's billions of flat earth videos out there.

22:18 You could say Bigfoot raped my mom.

22:20 You know, you could say anything.

22:23 Yeah.

22:22 But if you said that it might have come from a lab, [laughter]

22:26 you would get kicked off of YouTube.

22:27 Yeah.

22:27 It's so funny.

22:28 We found out that's exactly what happened.

22:30 But the market sort of shifted and that's how Rumble started getting bigger.

22:34 Rumble got bigger specifically because of the fact there was push back

22:38 on YouTube because they literally won't even let Nick Fuentes on YouTube

22:43 and he's on Rumble and he's like their number one guy.

22:46 He's killing it on Rumble.

22:47 See, that's the thing.

22:47 It's like if you hold something back,

22:50 you're just going to make another version of it that opposes it

22:54 and they're going to have more energy to fight against you because you've

22:57 you've stopped the truth.

22:59 Yeah.

22:59 You've stopped stopped the truth about like not like about petty things about

23:04 really important things like how a[ __] disease went through the whole world.

23:08 You're literally stopping people from examining the truth which is weird.

23:13 Yeah, there was

23:14 it's not good.

23:14 That's real scary.

23:16 That was a scary time just like in general

23:17 to like it was it was a great time for podcasting.

23:20 Podcasting blew up during co that was it was huge.

23:23 Everyone just stayed at home.

23:24 Everyone was like what are we going to do?

23:25 We have nothing else to do except sit on the internet and listen to podcasts.

23:28 Yeah.

23:29 Um but yeah, it was like uh just a weird, you know, uncertain time.

23:33 Even like physically in life,

23:35 it was uncertain and then you go on the internet and it's like,

23:37 oh, I could just like lose everything.

23:39 They could just just take it away like that.

23:40 All these platforms.

23:41 This is why I start this why I started I'm I do all of my own

23:44 things specifically because I am terrified that my things

23:47 are going to be taken away from me.

23:50 Yeah.

23:49 So, I have my own platforms, my own festival.

23:51 Well, you were really smart about that early on with Gas Digital.

23:54 Such a good idea, dude.

23:55 Such a good idea.

23:56 And it's also like your fan base.

23:58 Your fan base is so loyal and so rabid.

24:02 Yeah.

24:02 You know, because they're sign they're like invested financially.

24:05 Oh yeah.

24:05 And it's there.

24:06 It's a better relationship honestly in a lot of ways.

24:09 Well, what's funny is when we started it, it wasn't

24:12 it wasn't even completely necessary.

24:13 What's funny is Patreon hadn't even didn't it existed,

24:15 but it was like, you know, guitar players asking for tips.

24:18 There was nobody podcasting on Patreon.

24:20 We started the platform uncensored ad free for, you know, behind a payw wall.

24:23 We were unique.

24:24 There was really no Anthony Kumia did it.

24:26 There was a couple people that were doing their thing

24:28 and Anthony [clears throat] did it specifically because he was fired from XM.

24:31 Yeah.

24:31 And he had to.

24:32 He had to.

24:32 Um but we did and it wasn't even like it wasn't crazy back then.

24:37 Um but the way everything became censored

24:40 and you know there's all these ads on YouTube.

24:42 There's so much.

24:43 It's feels so like um it feels commercial.

24:45 It feels like you're watching

24:47 TV in the late 90s when you're watching YouTube now.

24:50 Now more than ever there's a need for an uncensored

24:52 adree platform and there's not many of them.

24:54 No 100%.

24:55 And and I think you did the smartest thing by doing that.

24:57 And so here's the argument.

24:59 The argument is like that if it's everywhere,

25:03 like if it's on YouTube and it's on Spotify,

25:05 it's on everywhere, then there's more potential

25:07 for growth because it's easier to access.

25:09 That is true.

25:10 And it's also it's way easier to promote because

25:13 people can just send each other like it's natural.

25:16 The algorithms will push it, which is

25:18 Yeah, there's that, but there's also sharing.

25:20 Like if I have if someone has got a good podcast, I'll share it with my friends.

25:24 you got to listen.

25:26 So that you can't do that if it's a paid platform.

25:30 So like you'd have to get someone to sign up.

25:32 What's funny is we we were so early on a lot of these things.

25:34 I I give myself a lot of credit here because

25:36 we like before you could screen record on your phone.

25:40 We had in our app, we had a tool where

25:42 you can clip clips to share them to social media.

25:44 So you could do it was like limited to like two or three clips per episode.

25:48 Oh, that's great.

25:49 And is it um

25:50 It never worked really.

25:51 But

25:51 was there a time limit on the clips?

25:52 Like a minute or two?

25:53 Oh, that's a problem.

25:55 That's a problem.

25:55 Yeah, because like you want like at least eight.

26:00 Yeah.

25:59 You know, because like especially if there's

26:01 a funny back and forth between you guys, like if you're doing Legions of Skanks

26:04 and you guys are going off about something.

26:06 Yeah.

26:06 You need a little more than a couple of minutes.

26:08 Got to sink your teeth into it.

26:09 Yeah.

26:10 [clears throat] Otherwise,

26:11 that's the best way to take things out of context, too.

26:13 [laughter]

26:14 You're telling me, boy, people love doing that.

26:17 Yeah.

26:17 They love doing that.

26:17 But it's also it's like,

26:18 what are you going to ask everybody to listen to 3 hours of a podcast?

26:22 It's crazy.

26:22 You got to expect that things are going to get taken out of context.

26:25 It's part of the game, you know.

26:28 It's part of the thing we do.

26:29 Yeah.

26:29 I um And no, nobody really wants a context.

26:32 Even when they find out the context, they they've been like, "Well,

26:35 I already we were saying before, I've moved on from that opinion.

26:39 Tomorrow it's another another day."

26:41 You know, nobody really cares about anything to be honest with you.

26:44 It's like the way that the internet has turned

26:46 people into like just like whatever's in front of them,

26:49 that's what they care about.

26:50 I mean, the the amount of things that were such a big deal a month ago.

26:54 I mean, ICE was such a huge deal two months ago.

26:57 We haven't heard anything about ICE since then.

26:59 They, you know, it was the Ukraine.

27:01 What happened to Ukraine?

27:02 That war is still going on.

27:03 I believe nobody [snorts] gives a[ __]

27:05 Still going on.

27:06 It's just it's not sexy right now.

27:08 You know, it's like Law and Order, Special Victims Unit, you know, season 50.

27:13 Yeah.

27:12 It's like, okay.

27:14 [laughter] You know what I mean?

27:16 We've seen every angle on rape already.

27:19 It's like it's still going to be a big show, you know?

27:22 It's still important.

27:22 It's top 10, but it's, you know what I'm saying?

27:24 Like it's not the number one thing that we're concerned with.

27:27 Where whereas when it popped off, when Russia invaded,

27:29 it was like the end of the world.

27:32 Yeah.

27:31 And then there was people I literally heard people

27:34 saying that Ukraine should have never given up its nukes.

27:37 And I was like, okay, I could see what you're saying.

27:41 I could see what you're saying.

27:42 Like if they had nukes, Russia probably wouldn't invade him.

27:45 But but ultimately that means we're threatening you with nukes.

27:50 That's the scariest thing ever.

27:51 That's[ __] crazy.

27:52 The whole thing's crazy.

27:53 But it's also it's like why did this happen?

27:55 Did you know pushing arms closer and closer to Russia have no impact on this?

28:00 Nobody can hit Texas or New York though, right?

28:03 Like Hawaii's[ __] Oh, they could hit New York.

28:06 What do you mean?

28:06 They could hit New York.

28:07 Oh, yeah.

28:07 They could hit New York.

28:08 You think so?

28:09 With a nuke?

28:10 Yeah, 100%.

28:11 I read something a while ago that they could only

28:12 reach Hawaii or I guess it wasn't it wasn't anyone.

28:14 It was um who was it?

28:17 Was it Russia or China or something?

28:19 One of them.

28:19 They could only hit Hawaii.

28:21 I had a bit about it in my act and I was

28:22 like we had a guy on that was talking about back engineering

28:28 UFO technology and that they had this idea of using it

28:35 to what they would call an instantaneous delivery system of a nuclear bomb.

28:41 because the way these things supposedly can travel.

28:45 Now, I'm a[ __] so I don't understand anything about gravity,

28:49 but what they were explaining is that if these crafts

28:52 work in a way that has no normal kind of propulsion,

28:56 we think of propulsion as like a jet.

28:59 The fire goes out the back and the jet

29:01 goes forward really fast because of that, right?

29:04 What they're saying is these beings from wherever the[ __] they

29:08 are with when these people that have back engineered their crafts,

29:12 the way they move is not by propulsion.

29:16 It's by bending space and time.

29:18 It's by doing something to the gravity around it or the the the actual

29:23 space of the universe around it where

29:26 it can go to another place like instantaneously.

29:29 So, it's not like it flies.

29:32 It's like it just[ __] zips over to another part of the universe and they

29:36 can do it like that tic tac one that they they got on radar.

29:41 They got it on the visuals like two

29:43 different fighter pilots saw it and talked about it.

29:45 They have video of it.

29:47 This[ __] thing went from more than 50,000 ft

29:50 above sea level to sea level in 1 second.

29:53 Less than a second.

29:54 So it's like beep beep beep radar.

29:56 It went from 50,000 ft to that.

29:58 So if you could do that with a bomb,

30:00 you could essentially instantaneously detonate Moscow.

30:06 Wow.

30:05 If that's a real technology.

30:07 So this is probably why these[ __] are hiding all this UFO information.

30:11 Yeah.

30:11 It's cuz these[ __] had probably were using the they were like,

30:15 "Yeah, we could travel anywhere in the universe or

30:18 we could blow up China without [laughter] them even knowing it's happening.

30:21 We could assure that we'll win a nuclear war." Yeah.

30:23 Anybody would have that technology,

30:25 the ability to put something somewhere instantly and you put a bomb in it.

30:30 That's crazy.

30:32 Yeah.

30:32 I That might be what all this UFO[ __] is about.

30:35 Yeah.

30:35 I mean the who knows who knows what's going

30:37 I mean like like obviously there's something going on, right?

30:41 Obvious like it's I I think there's smoke there's fire.

30:43 There's too much.

30:44 You've seen these stories about all these scientists that are getting whacked.

30:48 No.

30:48 Yeah.

30:48 There scientists that have gotten whacked in or missing

30:51 and a and a couple of generals as well that's all connected

30:55 somehow or another to UFO technology and anti-gravity technology and nuclear

31:00 scientists and there's a bunch of stories that I've read about

31:05 this and some of them are like this is like purely

31:08 exaggerated and a lot of people are it's just they're taking

31:11 that this guy committed suicide and he worked on that and this guy

31:14 went missing and he worked on that but it's just coincidence, right?

31:17 And then there's other people that go, "No, no, no, no.

31:20 This is there's too many people." So now the White House has commented on it.

31:24 So they're doing an investigation on this,

31:26 which makes me think hopefully somebody who's really[

31:31 __] smart has looked at this information and said,

31:33 "There's something there." Like what these people were working on was

31:37 very extraordinary and could disrupt a market or could be something

31:42 that could be used in a weapon that would destroy another

31:45 country and so the other country sabotages it by killing scientists.

31:49 That's[ __] that we would do.

31:50 Think how little we know.

31:52 Like the amount of like Yeah.

31:54 like you and I just human just like

31:57 Americans just just the general population like the amount

31:59 of there's probably the craziest technology ever

32:02 that the government has their hands on right now.

32:04 It's like we use AI tools and it's like I

32:06 can imagine the AI that the government currently has, right?

32:10 And that's why that'll never disappear.

32:12 It's because all of the governments are just sort

32:14 of at a race to see who can implement the strongest AI.

32:18 So I I can't even imagine how crazy it is.

32:21 There was one lady that was uh that went missing and there's

32:24 a weird video of her because it seems like she's drunk and she's

32:28 like talking about like how you know this technology that it's real

32:33 but every time they that anybody gets close to it, people stop it.

32:37 And this lady has gone missing as well.

32:39 So it seems like she might have had a couple of drinks

32:41 or something and then started ranting about this in some weird video call.

32:45 Yeah.

32:45 But listen, if I had that information and I thought

32:48 that people were trying to kill me because I knew

32:50 about anti-gravity technology and I literally thought like I'm

32:53 in a Russell Crow movie and someone's trying to[ __] whack me,

32:56 I'd [snorts] probably get drunk too.

32:58 Yeah.

32:58 Like what are you going to do?

33:00 But she she went missing though.

33:01 I was talking to two uh nuclear scientists after my show.

33:06 Just these two like it was a couple.

33:07 They were like straight up nuclear scientists.

33:09 It was Tacoma or Spokane whatever this near that like

33:12 there's a huge like it's like a nuclear town.

33:14 like everyone works in like nuclear science in this entire town.

33:19 Jesus.

33:18 And uh he was like they were like so

33:21 into telling me about like not not too much,

33:24 not too indepth, but he was like, you know, I work like 100 ft below the ground.

33:28 It was like super top secret.

33:30 And um he was like I started asking questions.

33:33 He was like, "No, I can't answer that." He was like,

33:35 "They've definitely tapped our phones.

33:35 Are you out of your mind?

33:36 Do you think they're like not just listening to what

33:38 we're saying to people?" And I was just like,

33:40 "Fucking godamn dude.

33:41 I think they're listening to everything everybody's saying all the time.

33:45 It's all getting stored.

33:47 Yeah.

33:47 I think it just gets stored.

33:48 I don't think it's like someone's listening where they can just

33:52 know every like they have a person

33:54 with a[ __] earphone on listening to everything you say.

33:56 Oh, write it down.

33:57 He said this.

33:58 I think probably high government officials.

34:00 They probably do probably.

34:01 But now with [clears throat] AI, all they would have to do is record

34:05 everybody's phone all the time and then use AI

34:08 to search all the transcripts and then find an audio

34:12 recording of you saying this or you saying that.

34:14 We're probably three years away from them being able

34:16 to get everything we've ever done on the internet.

34:18 Yeah.

34:19 But but not just that, there's also AI which could take that and then

34:23 have you make phone calls to people that you don't really make.

34:27 Yeah.

34:27 So you could call up one of your friends and ask them

34:30 to meet you somewhere with a bag of heroin and they would all,

34:33 you know, they would know.

34:34 It would like literally you could use it to set people up.

34:37 You could use it to get people upset about something.

34:40 You could have the AI have a[ __] conversation with them.

34:43 I mean, I've been listening AI Joe Rogan

34:46 ads on the internet for about a year now

34:48 where they just take your voice and they

34:49 advertise products because you have such a recognizable voice.

34:51 That's pretty ridiculous, right?

34:53 A lot of people go, "Do you use that?" I go, "No,

34:55 it's AI." But the thing is it's like they can have it talk to you now.

35:00 So it sounds like you.

35:03 Yeah.

35:03 You could have a conversation with you.

35:04 Like you could AI Lewis J.

35:07 Gomez.

35:09 You could talk to Louisis J.

35:10 Gomez and it would be like you talking to yourself.

35:12 You'd probably lose your mind if you were skeptical.

35:14 I did something really dark and sad one day.

35:16 I was super high.

35:17 And my mom died when I was 22 years old.

35:20 And then I I went I prompted chat GPT.

35:22 I told I told a bunch of information about my mom and I was like

35:25 I want to have a conversation with my mom on the other side about like what's

35:28 going on in my life and my son and asked me questions and I was like

35:32 it was it got very like I got really emotional way more than you would think.

35:36 Like I was it was kind of just a dumb thing.

35:38 I was stunned.

35:38 I was like let's see where this goes.

35:40 I was I felt like I was talking to my mom at the end of it.

35:43 It was[ __] really That's so crazy.

35:46 Yeah.

35:46 Really?

35:46 Here's the thing.

35:47 If it gets to be a super intelligence,

35:49 they program a super intelligence to behave exactly and talk exactly like

35:54 your mom and then you had conversations with her like it knows her voice.

36:00 Yeah, that would be such a[ __]

36:02 If you're schizophrenic and that starts happening, that would be the trip.

36:06 That would be that would be the that would be bing,

36:08 [laughter] we blew the last fuse.

36:09 Yeah, that's it, dude.

36:10 That would be it.

36:11 Well, for us that's what they're doing for for you and me, right?

36:15 who we have I mean thousands and thousands of hours recorded, right?

36:19 Oh yeah, they could have us say anything.

36:20 Well, not only just say anything like when I die,

36:23 I'm assuming the technology, forget when I die, like forget 40 years from now.

36:27 Like in the next few years, they can just take every opinion I've had,

36:32 the way I speak, my thoughts, everything.

36:33 And then they can use AI to not only just replicate what I do,

36:36 but go like, well, what would he likely think, what would he likely say?

36:40 if you sort of put all that data in and then eventually it's

36:43 like a little[ __] box sitting on the table that my son talks to.

36:46 His dad never dies.

36:47 His dad's always there.

36:48 I think that will be a thing that regularly is happening.

36:51 You you

36:52 and I don't know if it's like uploading

36:53 the consciousness or if it's the AI replicating your consciousness.

36:56 I think they've talked about that for a long time,

36:57 but that I think will happen unquestionably.

37:01 No doubt.

37:02 Yeah.

37:02 And soon.

37:03 Very soon.

37:04 Well, the AI that they have now,

37:05 like if you put on those meta glasses, have you[ __] with that?

37:08 the VR goggles.

37:10 Uh, yeah, they're pretty[ __] I mean, I just jerk off.

37:13 That's it.

37:14 I just

37:14 giant vaginas.

37:15 Well, not No, it's not even a It's um

37:17 If you have porn with VR, it must be insane.

37:20 Oh, it's insane.

37:20 It is insane.

37:22 Yeah,

37:21 I can't watch regular porn anymore.

37:23 That way.

37:24 Made [laughter] me nervous.

37:25 Creepy.

37:26 I was looking this up just to see if it was still a thing.

37:29 This is a William Shatner AI.

37:31 He's sitting here waiting for us to ask him a question

37:33 and he'll just answer it in his voice.

37:35 It's him.

37:35 He sat there and recorded a bunch of stuff a couple years ago for this.

37:39 Um, I don't [snorts] know how well it works, but

37:41 Well, ask him this.

37:44 This is a little different though.

37:45 This isn't So, I mean, this is just the beginning, though.

37:47 Like, this is

37:48 this is the beginning of it.

37:49 So, once they But they once they turn they really turn

37:51 the AI on this, it'll be like it'll be a better William Shatner.

37:55 I mean, it looks uh what?

37:57 Let's ask him one random question.

37:59 H um what didn't he have like a make

38:05 out session with a green lady on in Star Trek?

38:09 I don't know.

38:09 What was it?

38:10 I think he did.

38:10 I think there was like some weird racial push back.

38:15 There was some weird pu Oh, he kissed Ohura.

38:19 There was He did make out with an alien.

38:21 No, no, no.

38:22 He did make out with an alien, right?

38:23 I'm pretty sure he kissed like a a green lady or something,

38:26 but he also kissed Lieutenant O'Hora, who was a black lady.

38:31 And during the time where they did Star Trek,

38:34 I think this was very controversial.

38:37 That's it.

38:38 So that was in 1968 and this was very controversial that a white

38:45 man and a black and by the way, she was beautiful.

38:47 That lady that played Aurora, she's beautiful.

38:49 And they thought it was weird.

38:51 They thought it was offensive.

38:53 I mean, it was like it was a big thing.

38:57 Yeah.

38:56 In like the public.

38:58 I was too young.

38:58 Obviously, I was one years old.

39:00 But I do remember this story.

39:03 Remember there was that movie uh Jungle Fever?

39:05 It was an entire movie.

39:06 The entire premise of the movie was it's a black guy and a white girl.

39:09 [laughter] Interracial couple.

39:10 That's a movie.

39:12 That's it.

39:16 Okay.

39:16 What is it called?

39:17 Was the episode called?

39:18 Plato's stepchildren season 3 episode 10 November 22nd 1968.

39:24 Wow.

39:26 Oh, played by um Nishelle Nichols and Captain Kirk, William Shackner.

39:32 Episode often cited incorrectly as the first interracial kiss on television.

39:36 It was however the first instance in which a kiss between

39:40 a black person and a white person on US television was ever scripted.

39:44 as an earlier kiss on Moving with Nancy was unscrew.

39:47 What the[ __] is Moving with Nancy?

39:50 What is that?

39:51 Nancy Sinatra special or something?

39:53 Nancy kissed a black guy on TV.

39:54 Is that what they're saying?

39:55 That's pissing me off now.

39:56 I don't know why.

39:56 [laughter] I bet she did it just to piss off Frank.

40:01 Her father was not okay with that.

40:03 I bet she did it just to piss off Frank.

40:08 Let me check.

40:09 Yeah, find out what she did.

40:10 What the[ __] [laughter] happened?

40:13 Like a variety show.

40:15 So, was it like her and just a singer or something?

40:17 Was it a show where they would sing each other?

40:19 What happened here?

40:21 Sammy Davis Jr.

40:21 Oh, Sammy Davis Jr.

40:23 kissed her.

40:23 Oh, that's song and dance.

40:24 That's kind of with her.

40:26 That's what it says.

40:27 They probably look it up.

40:28 But, but is that it says an interracial kiss between

40:31 between Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr.?

40:34 Oh, boy.

40:35 He kissed he passionately kissed his friend's daughter.

40:39 Oh, yeah.

40:39 Bro, those people were freaks back then.

40:41 That's hot.

40:42 They were freaks.

40:43 This is it.

40:44 That brat pack.

40:45 That rat pack.

40:46 Those guys were animals.

40:47 Look at that.

40:48 Oh, that's on the cheek, bro.

40:50 He kissed her on the cheek.

40:52 Zoom in on that.

40:52 That's outrageous.

40:54 That's a nice friendly kiss.

40:56 That's not a passionately kissed.

40:58 Let me see that.

40:59 Close in on her.

41:00 Yeah, he kissed her on the cheek.

41:02 Don't you think?

41:04 It looks like the cheek.

41:04 It looks like right here.

41:05 Yeah.

41:05 A little side side of the

41:07 a little That's like a sweet thing.

41:09 Yeah.

41:09 Italian men do that to each other.

41:10 Yeah, that's not a that's not a kiss on the lips.

41:14 Yeah,

41:13 that doesn't count.

41:14 I say Star Trek's the first cuz that was like let's get down.

41:21 It's so nuts, dude.

41:22 Yeah.

41:23 I mean, my uh my mom my mom was white and my dad was like Afro Latino,

41:27 like darkkinned like uh he looked black, like straight he looked like Easy E.

41:31 I was just going to show you a picture of my dad.

41:33 It's crazy.

41:33 [laughter] He looks straight up like Easy E.

41:36 Um and it's like Yeah.

41:38 I mean that even in the' 80s growing up that was kind of like it was weird.

41:41 I remember the first time I saw an interracial couple in high school.

41:44 I'm 44.

41:44 I'm not I'm not that old.

41:46 But like it was weird.

41:48 I remember just seeing like in like the 10th grade this like

41:51 hot white chick started dating this like football player black kid.

41:53 It wasn't that regular where I grew and I

41:55 grew up an hour outside of New York City.

41:57 Yeah.

41:57 And it it was controversial.

41:59 It would open you up to all sorts of like

42:01 you get yelled at by people, you get attacked.

42:04 There's a lot of people that they dealt with a lot of[ __] back then, man.

42:09 Yeah.

42:10 Well, racism is back.

42:11 Don't worry.

42:12 [laughter] It kind of never went away.

42:14 But it's it comes in waves of encouragement

42:17 where people people think like it's okay.

42:19 It's okay to be racist.

42:21 It's okay to be this, to be that.

42:23 It was a weird It was a weird thing where it's like

42:25 a lot of us were just being ironic and funny for a while.

42:28 You make racial jokes, you make jokes about anything like that.

42:30 I I think you could be make a joke about anything.

42:32 It's a comedian's job.

42:34 Um, and then it like shifted once like

42:37 social media became so like big and everyone's opinion.

42:40 You can anonymously just say whatever you want.

42:42 Dude, if you wanted to you want to say something racist anonymously,

42:44 you had to write it on a bathroom wall.

42:48 You have to be like, I hate [laughter] nwords on the wall in a marker.

42:51 And then somebody else responds to it underneath it and they're like,

42:54 well, I hate you cracker.

42:55 And then it goes it.

42:56 That was always fun.

42:57 Like bathroom walls were fun.

42:59 Get a phone number.

43:00 Call this number.

43:01 You give your ex-girlfriend's phone number on the wall.

43:03 Yeah, of course.

43:04 Yeah.

43:05 Those those are the days.

43:06 The original doxing.

43:08 Well, also those like the the that's the original message board.

43:12 Yeah.

43:12 [laughter] It's the original YouTube comments,

43:14 right?

43:14 That's the original comments on an ex post is the bathroom wall.

43:18 That's it.

43:18 And that's the only thing that's as far as it can

43:20 go was maybe 12 people a day would see your[ __] anonymously.

43:25 But it felt so good just n [clears throat] I

43:27 I can't remember any interracial uh in high school.

43:31 I can't remember any of them.

43:33 Oh no, one.

43:34 I do remember one.

43:35 But I do remember there's a lot of push back, man.

43:37 Like a lot of people were like openly racist about it.

43:43 Yeah, it's uh eventually has to go away, but it's like it's going away in waves.

43:48 Like it used to be normal.

43:50 Like everybody was racist.

43:52 The whole world was racist.

43:53 I think everyone is bigoted.

43:55 It's a little different than a little different than racist, right?

43:57 Well, everyone was tribal, right?

43:59 Like you could only trust the 150 people that you lived with.

44:04 You could barely trust them.

44:05 You could barely trust them.

44:07 They were probably trying to be the tribal chief

44:09 and[ __] people over and[ __] the chief's wife.

44:11 That shit's always gone on.

44:13 But for sure, if there was a group that you didn't know and they showed up,

44:17 they were there to kill you.

44:19 [laughter] Yes.

44:20 100%.

44:21 Yes.

44:21 A bunch of guys show up, there's 15 guys.

44:23 They show up, but you're they're trying to kill you.

44:25 Well, also pre- internet, you you had to coexist, right?

44:28 You had to the only people you can communicate with.

44:30 You go to the grocery store,

44:31 it's an Indian guy or a black guy or a Puerto Rican guy.

44:34 It's like, "No, I got to buy a tomato.

44:35 So, I'm we're just going to do what we need.

44:37 I'm going to give you my dollar.

44:38 You're going to give me a tomato and I'm going to say,

44:40 but this is an America in a city in the 20th century and then

44:44 the 21st century." What I'm saying is we're hardwired for the olden days.

44:49 Right.

44:49 This is why it's so easy to get people to join a team,

44:52 whether it be a Democrat or be a Republican or MAGA or whatever the[ __] it is.

44:57 It's so easy because people are programmed to be in tribes, right?

45:01 Yeah.

45:02 And they want an identity.

45:03 Yeah.

45:04 It's it's easier.

45:05 There's an enemy.

45:05 They want an enemy, too.

45:06 Yep.

45:07 You have a You feel like you're on a side.

45:09 You feel You don't really have to do much thinking.

45:12 Exactly.

45:12 Like whatever Whatever they say, I agree with

45:14 gives you comfort that you you're surrounded by other people.

45:17 I used to think that when I was young

45:18 when I would watch like religious preachers on television,

45:22 I was watching those like these Islamic guys and they were talking about Islam

45:26 and the way the certainty in the fact that what they were saying was true.

45:32 Like the way they were saying like all

45:33 these other religions mean nothing because Islam is the truth.

45:36 And they were like, "Yep." They're like they believed it.

45:38 Like I'm like it must feel great

45:41 to believe something 100% like that.

45:44 You have a bunch of other people around you that also believe it.

45:48 100% know ifs or buts.

45:50 And we've all The reality is no

45:54 one knows about anything until you experience it.

45:59 Yeah.

45:58 So, you don't really know what's going to happen in heaven.

46:01 If heaven's real, you don't know any of that.

46:03 No.

46:03 But you're so convinced.

46:06 And my question is by what?

46:10 I wish I had any sort of spiritual faith.

46:13 That's what I keep saying.

46:14 come up with a good cult.

46:15 I'll join it.

46:16 Doggy, I I just can't I what since I was a little kid,

46:19 I remember just being a little kid and think having the thought

46:22 God's not real and then trying cuz I was raised Catholic just

46:25 suppressing it being like I can't think that I'm going to burn

46:27 in hell if I even think the idea that God isn't real.

46:29 It's like a what a weird psychotic thing to do to like a 5-year-old kid.

46:33 Yeah.

46:34 you know, and um yeah, it's like uh yeah,

46:38 you you sort of like that the idea of faith,

46:40 it it actually seems like really like kind of freeing.

46:43 Like the idea of like, dude,

46:44 I'm going to die and I'm going to go to the kingdom

46:45 of heaven and I'm going to experience everything that I've ever wanted.

46:48 I mean, that sounds incredible.

46:50 I it's for me it's like I feel like

46:52 I'm counting down until I'm going to sleep forever.

46:54 Like I have nothing after I really don't believe in any of that.

46:57 when people get into like these heated

46:59 passionate like debates about certain things

47:00 like abortion is a great topic um for this concept when you're trying

47:05 to convince somebody that's religious like

47:07 to be pro-life you're like you don't understand

47:08 what's going on there dude they believe you're murdering a baby you're not going

47:13 to convince somebody that like oh well let me let me let me

47:16 try to break this down for you right now let me try to give

47:18 you a different angle on this no they they believe that that's a life

47:21 at conception they believe it's a soul they really[ __] believe that deep down

47:25 and that is like like I kind of go like I respect that.

47:27 Like I'm not going to like I I'm pro-life, right?

47:30 I I was raised by by women and I just kind of grew up in New York.

47:33 We always sort of had that sensibility.

47:35 Do you mean pro-choice?

47:35 Is that what you

47:36 I'm sorry.

47:36 I'm pro-choice.

47:37 I apologize.

47:38 Um but when I my son was born or even when I first saw the heartbeat,

47:42 I remember I was like that's a life right there.

47:44 The heartbeat that 6 weeks whatever it was,

47:46 I was like that's a[ __] life right there.

47:48 But when you're dealing with religious people who believe that that's

47:50 a soul and that that it's like the second it's conceived,

47:53 you're trying to convince them that it's okay to kill a baby

47:56 and it's never going to happen.

47:58 Yeah.

47:59 No, it's never going to happen.

48:00 And I don't know who's right.

48:03 That's the real problem.

48:04 Like for convenience sake and for living your life on your own terms sake.

48:09 And the see my take on it is first of all I'm not a woman

48:15 and if you're talking about this and there's no chance of you ever getting

48:19 pregnant that's a weird thing because you

48:23 like conceptually yeah that's a life no doubt

48:26 I mean not even conceptually objectively that's

48:29 a life it's going to become a human

48:31 but who who like who am I to say especially in cases of like incest and rape

48:38 and you know Crazy[ __] Who am I to say that you have to raise that kid?

48:42 That you have to that that life has to you

48:44 have to change your body for the next 9 months.

48:47 Maybe ir irrevocably.

48:50 I mean, maybe it'll just change your body forever.

48:52 Maybe you'll have stretch marks forever.

48:53 Oh, yeah.

48:54 Because of this, because of this horrible thing that happened to you.

48:57 Because everybody says that this life is precious.

48:59 Like every time you got to feed at breakfast, you got to[ __]

49:01 If that was for men, if men got pregnant,

49:04 [laughter] abortion would be at gas stations.

49:07 fill it up and take it out.

49:08 It would be There's not a[ __] chance in hell it would be.

49:12 That's a bit There's not a chance in hell that it would be a debate.

49:17 Yeah.

49:16 It wouldn't be a debate.

49:17 If men make the laws and men could get pregnant,

49:21 men would have abortions everywhere.

49:24 Yeah.

49:23 There's no[ __] chance you'd be able to tell another

49:25 man that he's going to have to keep a baby.

49:27 No.

49:28 Yeah.

49:28 It's it's it's very complex.

49:30 And I understand both sides of it, you know?

49:33 I really do.

49:33 I when people say that's a life you can't it's like

49:35 I'm like I really get that and when people go like

49:37 it's a woman's body and sort of right to choose if

49:39 she wants to eject this from her body before a certain time.

49:45 Um

49:44 it's the weird thing is like at what point in time

49:46 like could you stop it when it's a clump of cells?

49:49 Can you stop it when it's almost a fetus?

49:51 You know what I mean?

49:52 Like it gets it's it's such a human problem

49:55 in that there's no it's it's a weird[ __] sloppy

50:00 I think when it grow when it grows a nose.

50:03 Yeah.

50:03 Before it hits before it grows a nose or or fingers.

50:05 It could be a kid.

50:06 It's going to be a kid that maybe wins an Olympic gold medal.

50:09 If it's got web fingers still,

50:10 it could be a kid that is Sabrina Carpenter

50:12 and is on stage in front of all those people.

50:14 You know what I mean?

50:15 That's the weird thing about life.

50:16 It could be somebody that changes the world.

50:18 It could be.

50:18 Literally.

50:18 Yeah.

50:19 Yeah.

50:19 If you look at like child development like um monthtomonth, I mean,

50:22 when my when I my son was being born, I was like obsessively like looking at it.

50:26 It starts looking like a baby way earlier than you think.

50:29 And the problem is you can still abort it when it looks like a[ __] baby.

50:33 And that's it's just a Oh, you could abort it when it is a baby.

50:36 Oh, yeah.

50:36 In certain cases.

50:37 Well, yeah.

50:37 If it's like medically

50:39 I knew a guy his girlfriend had a late term abortion and it was horrible.

50:45 Jesus.

50:45 Horrible to know that like she was showing it was

50:49 Well, there was that one.

50:50 This is in the '9s.

50:51 There was a one video that went viral a while ago and it was like they were

50:54 talking to somebody in an abortion clinic with like

50:55 a hidden cell phone camera and they were like,

50:58 "Well, what happens if you abort the fetus?

51:00 You remove the fetus and it's still alive like on the table." Yeah.

51:04 Um they and they were like, "Well, we would have to at least extinguish life

51:08 or something like that." It was like pretty[ __] crazy.

51:12 Yeah.

51:11 It's like so when the baby's out,

51:13 you're going to kill the that you're just going to kill.

51:14 It's call it what it is.

51:15 You're going to kill a baby.

51:17 It's bonkers.

51:18 And that's why like you could

51:20 understand why Christians would think that's demonic.

51:24 Yeah.

51:24 Anyone anyone would think that's demonic.

51:26 You could totally understand that.

51:27 And to ignore that and throw it into this.

51:30 No, but I you know I believe in the woman's right to choose.

51:34 Okay.

51:34 Me too.

51:35 But what's that?

51:37 Yeah.

51:36 Like what are we saying here?

51:37 Like you're going to just kill the baby when it's alive outside the womb.

51:42 Is it viable?

51:42 Like could it be grow up and become one of your friends?

51:46 Like what are we doing?

51:49 Maybe.

51:48 You know what I'm saying?

51:50 Could it could that baby grow up and just live?

51:53 Yeah.

51:53 And just have a wonderful life and have a great job.

51:56 It's[ __] weird, man.

51:58 Because like what is life and why?

52:02 It's very precious to us because if we don't have it,

52:04 then we don't have a say in what's going on.

52:06 But we're really just a[ __] bunch of atoms and particles

52:09 and molecules and everything spinning around at a different frequency.

52:14 That's what we really are.

52:15 Your mushrooms are kicking in, Joe.

52:16 They're not [laughter] even just I'm just

52:18 saying like we're so obsessed with life.

52:22 Yeah.

52:22 And that's why this is such a fascinating conversation.

52:25 It's also a fascinating conversation cuz men can't get pregnant.

52:28 It's a weird

52:29 Well, I think they can, right?

52:30 They can carry the baby.

52:31 We can't get pregnant, but I think you could.

52:33 Well, they're talking to transmitter talking about getting uteruses implanted

52:36 in their body and then getting pregnant and having an abortion.

52:38 I want to be the first person to do that, [laughter]

52:41 which just shows you how is really healthy.

52:44 That's pretty hilarious.

52:45 [laughter]

52:45 Got it.

52:46 It would be a good bit.

52:47 It' be something Steo would do.

52:50 It really would be.

52:50 [laughter] I'm gonna put a baby in a board it.

52:54 How[ __] great is that?

52:55 That's funny.

52:56 Yeah.

52:56 He would do it if there wouldn't be any social push back.

52:58 Yeah.

52:58 Yeah.

52:59 That That one's, you know, tough.

53:00 A little bit of a tough one.

53:02 He almost got tit implants.

53:03 I know.

53:03 He told me that.

53:04 That's crazy.

53:05 It's nuts.

53:06 Don't do that.

53:08 Yeah.

53:07 Ouch.

53:08 You going to get your chest carved open.

53:09 You get a dick tattooed in his face.

53:11 Yes.

53:11 He's insane.

53:11 Right over his eyebrow.

53:12 He's a lunatic.

53:13 It took me like a few seconds to realize it was a dick, too.

53:15 I was like, "Okay." Last time I saw you, you didn't have that, right?

53:19 Yeah.

53:20 He's a He's a[ __] wild one.

53:21 Um, that nuclear scientist thing or the UFO scientist thing,

53:25 is there anything to that?

53:26 Do we No.

53:29 Why don't you uh throw that into our ad or uh sponsor Perplexity?

53:34 What does it say?

53:35 Uh, it's obviously an online link, right?

53:39 But I mean, the White House is investigating that they're bringing it up.

53:42 They're investigated because so many people are asking about it.

53:44 Oh, that's it's that easy.

53:46 [laughter]

53:46 Let's find out if Michelle Obama has a dick.

53:50 Can you imagine if the White House is like

53:52 we have an unprecedented number of people asking this question?

53:57 It's our duty to do the work for the American people.

54:01 They do.

54:02 Why?

54:02 They all had a like security clearance and all

54:06 happened to work in similar fields like nuclear fision fusion.

54:10 Okay.

54:11 So what ties the 11 together?

54:13 Many have recently clearances or indirect access

54:15 to s sensitive government work often via NASA,

54:18 the Department of Energy's, nuclear labs,

54:20 the Air Force, or major defense contractors.

54:22 Their deaths or disappearances occurred between 2022 and early 2026,

54:27 clustered enough in time to draw political and media attention.

54:32 The White House has ordered agencies such as FBI,

54:34 NASA, the Department of Energy, and the Department of War to perform link

54:39 analysis to see if there's any pattern beyond coincidence.

54:43 So, one of them was real weird where there was like

54:46 a lady who was hiking and she was with a bunch of friends.

54:52 Her friend turned around and asked her a question.

54:54 She talked to her and then she turned around again and she was gone.

54:59 And they have no idea what happened.

55:01 They never found a body.

55:03 They brought the dogs in.

55:04 The dogs couldn't find her.

55:08 Just gone.

55:09 That's it.

55:10 But here's my question.

55:11 If I was her and I thought that they were trying to whack me and I

55:17 was going hiking with my friends and I was at the back of the line,

55:20 that's where I'd be if I was going to make a run for it, right?

55:23 If I thought all these people were bringing me up there,

55:25 these[ __] fellow scientists to chuck me off the cliff.

55:28 I might be in the back and then I might, if I'm paranoid,

55:31 maybe I ate an edible before I went on this hike to [laughter] be

55:33 a little closer to nature and I'd look at that person in front of me.

55:36 I'm like, I'm going to wait until they

55:37 turn that right around that turn and I'm[ __]

55:40 Homer Simpson into the bushes [laughter]

55:42 and then she just[ __] booked it down that hill and hopped in her car,

55:46 got a Uber waiting for disappeared.

55:50 case you're thinking of is Monica Jasinto Raza,

55:54 60-year-old aerospace engineer linked to NASA,

55:56 JPL, and Advanced Rocket Engine Materials Research.

56:00 She disappeared on June 22nd, 2025 while hiking in the Angeles National Forest,

56:05 Los Angeles County, on a welltraveled trail.

56:08 I know where that place is.

56:09 I've been to that spot.

56:11 Reports say she was hiking with at least one friend companion.

56:14 The friend was roughly 30 ft ahead,

56:16 turned to check on her, saw her smile, and waved that she was fine.

56:20 Then a short time later, looked back again, and she was gone.

56:24 Despite intensive searches, no confirmed trace of her has been found,

56:29 and her case is now one of the central examples

56:32 of missing or dead scientist cluster being reviewed by federal agencies.

56:38 Yeah, that's weird.

56:40 She disappeared.

56:40 She She was like, "Fuck She saw all these other

56:42 scientists being murdered and she was like, "I'm out." Right.

56:45 Cuz if you were a scientist,

56:46 you'd probably be paying attention to other scientists getting whacked.

56:48 Oh yeah.

56:49 On the same projects.

56:50 Especially if somebody started talking.

56:51 You're in an empty office.

56:52 You're [laughter] in the You're in the coffee station and someone's like,

56:55 "Do you hear what happened to Ted?" Ted's dead.

56:58 He [laughter] shot himself twice.

57:03 From long range.

57:04 Wait a minute.

57:04 Anti-gravity Ted.

57:05 Anti-gravity Ted.

57:06 He's dead.

57:07 [laughter]

57:07 He killed He killed himself with a sniper rifle.

57:09 It was pretty crazy.

57:10 Get the[ __] out of here.

57:11 Yeah, I'm going hiking with Monica.

57:13 I don't[ __] trust Monica.

57:14 __] that.

57:15 Monica's trying to kill you.

57:17 I don't trust She's out there hiking and Monica turns and waves at her.

57:20 I don't trust hiking.

57:21 She was probably[ __] killed by a bear or a mountain lion.

57:24 You could get you could get got.

57:26 That's crazy.

57:26 I don't My friend Cam, his um brother almost got killed

57:30 by a mountain lion and had this crazy story about it.

57:33 And he's a like a distance runner.

57:35 He's one of those ultramarathon guys.

57:36 Yeah.

57:37 and his brother told this video about like what had happened to him.

57:41 He was running down the road and it was like dusk out,

57:44 like starting to get dark and he saw these eyes,

57:46 these glowing eyes in the bushes and he yelled at it cuz he thought

57:50 it was a coyote and it stands up and it's a[ __] mountain lion.

57:54 And so then it starts chasing him and he goes,

57:57 "I couldn't have used pepper spray because if I did,

58:00 I would have sprayed myself cuz it was that close." Wow.

58:04 He goes, "I yelled at it.

58:05 I kicked rocks at it.

58:06 It kept And he goes, "I just ran." He goes,

58:08 "I think the thing that might have saved me was a bunch of dogs were barking."

58:13 Wow.

58:13 And it might have thought the dogs were out there.

58:15 You're not out running a mountain lion.

58:17 No.

58:18 No.

58:17 It was It was running behind him,

58:19 but not like 100% committed to killing him yet.

58:23 Wow.

58:23 That's scary.

58:25 Yeah.

58:25 Nature's[ __] scary.

58:26 And people like, "We need to make an overpass in Los Angeles near

58:31 [laughter] these homes so the mountain line can get across the[ __] track." No.

58:36 Any[ __] mountain line that goes across the 405 should get obliterated.

58:41 That's That's nature.

58:42 That's nature.

58:43 Hey, you thought that[ __] semi wasn't dangerous, you[ __] cat.

58:48 That's a[ __] cat.

58:49 Yes, it is.

58:50 that that cat probably his brother[ __] his sister and that's that's how he was

58:54 born and now he's a dumbass and he's supposed to get taken out by a Subaru.

58:58 Did you ever see that?

58:59 They uh it was like all these inbredad tigers.

59:02 Yeah.

59:02 Oh, white tigers.

59:03 Yeah, dude.

59:04 And they were all like[ __] goofy.

59:05 They have one at the Austin Zoo.

59:07 __] tigers.

59:07 We went to visit the Austin Zoo and you looked at them like, "Hey, [laughter]

59:11 their tongues are hanging out." Yeah, they're goofy looking.

59:14 A bunch of those white ones [clears throat] are

59:16 are inbred because that's a weird like genetic thing,

59:19 I guess, to have a white one.

59:21 Cute, though.

59:21 I I took my son to that uh Tiger, not the Tiger King,

59:25 but it was the other guy, the ones who's in jail for tax evasion now.

59:28 Um Tiger King's in jail for murder, right?

59:31 Yeah.

59:31 No, no, no.

59:31 The It was one of the guys,

59:33 not for murder, but for like trying to get someone murdered.

59:36 The other guy, what the[ __] his name?

59:37 He was one who had all the girlfriends.

59:39 Oh, the guy who ran the little cult.

59:41 A little cult going on.

59:42 Yeah, dude.

59:43 I brought my son there and it was him, dude.

59:44 He came out when they presented the elephant.

59:46 It was um Why am I blanking on his name?

59:50 Doc.

59:51 Doc Antel.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:51 Yeah.

59:52 He brought the elephant out himself.

59:53 It was Dude, it was such a fun show.

59:55 Like there was like a half day.

59:56 It was like four or five hours.

59:57 He went to jail for what?

59:58 Tax evasion.

59:59 Ah, these[ __] pay your taxes, people.

1:00:02 It's the dumbest way to get got.

1:00:04 Yeah.

1:00:04 It's crazy.

1:00:05 Oh, and while Yeah.

1:00:06 moneyaundering char I'm sorry.

1:00:07 Moneyaundering.

1:00:09 Moneyaundering.

1:00:09 Yeah.

1:00:09 Wildlife trafficking and moneyaundering.

1:00:11 That's a lot different than not paying your tax.

1:00:14 They have all of these baby tigers that they bring out,

1:00:16 but they only have like two adult tigers.

1:00:17 So, what are they doing with these baby tigers?

1:00:19 Whoa, well, go back to that.

1:00:21 Hold on.

1:00:21 Make that larger.

1:00:22 What does it say here?

1:00:24 It says 12 months for pleading guilty for in a conspiracy

1:00:28 to violate the Lacy Act and launder more than

1:00:31 $500,000 for what he believed to be an operation to smuggle

1:00:35 illegal immigrants into the United States across the Mexico border.

1:00:39 Oh, this is a lot different than that.

1:00:42 Like he was getting illegal immigrants across the border for money.

1:00:45 He was Yeah, he was sh [laughter] That's crazy.

1:00:50 So that's not just like wildlife stuff and taxes.

1:00:54 Like this guy was like illegal immigrant trafficking.

1:00:57 Yeah, this guy was a bad Wow.

1:00:59 a bad dude probably.

1:01:00 But he did have he had a bunch of like a sweet cult going on.

1:01:03 Young hot chicks.

1:01:04 I met a I knew a girl that I dated who went

1:01:06 and interviewed and she was like it felt like I was interviewing for porn.

1:01:09 She I showed up and it was like oh no.

1:01:11 The other girls were like oh you're going to have to like be a part of this.

1:01:16 Yeah.

1:01:15 Well the thing about this guy

1:01:16 but for a baby tiger dude I got to be honest with you.

1:01:18 They're really [laughter] cute.

1:01:19 They're adorable.

1:01:20 I get it.

1:01:20 Women are so[ __] dumb.

1:01:21 They're like baby tigers I'll suck his dick.

1:01:23 Fine.

1:01:24 Well I think they just want to belong to something.

1:01:26 And this guy comes along and he's

1:01:28 charismatic and you belong to his little family.

1:01:30 Family of five girls.

1:01:32 They're all hanging out together blowing this one fat guy.

1:01:34 [laughter]

1:01:38 I mean,

1:01:39 smuggling Mexicans and murdering baby tigers.

1:01:41 Well, that's the thing about those kind of guys.

1:01:43 This is why I was going to say about the the smuggling in the Mexicans.

1:01:46 Those kind of guys are never happy [clears throat]

1:01:48 with whatever they've gotten away with.

1:01:50 They always want to keep pushing.

1:01:52 Yeah.

1:01:52 You know, he was not happy that he's an ugly guy with a cult,

1:01:55 you know, of of hot chicks and tigers.

1:01:57 Yeah.

1:01:57 You're a millionaire.

1:01:58 You have tigers and hot chicks.

1:01:59 That's all you need.

1:02:00 You're in a TV show.

1:02:01 You're good.

1:02:02 You're good.

1:02:02 You don't have to smuggle in the Mexicans, too.

1:02:04 But those kind of guys are always They just can't [clears throat] stop pushing.

1:02:08 Yeah.

1:02:08 Can't stop pushing.

1:02:09 Yeah.

1:02:09 I think Yeah.

1:02:10 It's whatever it is, you you whatever level it is,

1:02:13 you always want to level up no matter what.

1:02:15 No matter what.

1:02:15 Bobby Kelly said that to me about Louisie back in the day.

1:02:18 He was like, uh, you know,

1:02:19 because we all we're all everyone's insecure comedian.

1:02:22 Everyone in New York's insecure.

1:02:22 Everyone in LA and Austin,

1:02:23 you guys[ __] you guys are [laughter] you guys[ __] love life.

1:02:27 You're just living life to your fullest.

1:02:28 Everyone in New York is like, I'm going to kill myself.

1:02:29 I hate[ __] life.

1:02:30 It sucks.

1:02:31 I think it's the environment.

1:02:33 Yeah.

1:02:33 Well, it's a rough city.

1:02:33 It's a really rough city.

1:02:34 It's a great city.

1:02:35 It's awesome.

1:02:37 Cities in general [clears throat] is a weird concept.

1:02:41 Shoving a bunch of people way too close to each other

1:02:44 for long periods of time.

1:02:46 It has an effect.

1:02:47 It's also like uh it's just a it's a rough city, dude.

1:02:50 It's even when even like the highest level, like if you're doing well Yeah.

1:02:54 You still got to[ __] walk up those subway stairs and it's just like

1:02:56 just hot air in the summertime down if you try to take the subway or

1:03:00 you know sitting in New York traffic

1:03:01 or just like crazy homeless people walking around.

1:03:03 You got to like really want to be there to stand it.

1:03:07 I I did it for 20 years.

1:03:08 I moved to the suburbs during the pandemic.

1:03:10 Um and I I love New I still love New York.

1:03:12 I go to New York a few times a week still.

1:03:13 But it is uh it is definitely a young man's city where you got to like

1:03:17 you got to be there to like I'm trying to become the best comic or a dancer,

1:03:20 work on Wall Street or whatever it is.

1:03:21 Like

1:03:22 that's true.

1:03:22 But I know a lot of old people that love it too, man.

1:03:24 They'll never leave.

1:03:25 They love it.

1:03:27 The life they love the energy.

1:03:29 There's just people around them all the time.

1:03:31 There's something going on everywhere you look.

1:03:34 You can get food at 3:00 in the morning.

1:03:35 You could

1:03:36 I mean, as far if you're a city person like Ari.

1:03:40 [clears throat]

1:03:42 Yeah.

1:03:41 It there's no place like New York City.

1:03:43 Ari spends I don't even know how much on rent,

1:03:45 but probably $50,000 a month for a room where you can touch all the walls.

1:03:50 Yeah.

1:03:50 It's crazy.

1:03:51 It's stupid.

1:03:51 [clears throat] It's stupid.

1:03:53 And now if you're rich and you own property and you don't stay there,

1:03:57 they're going to they're going to tax you more.

1:03:59 There's a new thing that Mom Donnie just came out with and everyone's like,

1:04:02 "Yeah,[ __] the billionaires." Like,

1:04:04 okay,[ __] the billionaires until it's[ __] the thousands.

1:04:07 It's all it's not even just billionaires.

1:04:08 Like, we're talking about you don't have

1:04:11 to be particularly wealthy to own property.

1:04:13 Like, it's a good investment with the money that you have, right?

1:04:16 But this particular bill is about more

1:04:18 than $5 [clears throat] million valued homes.

1:04:21 Okay?

1:04:21 So, if you have an apartment in New York City, it's worth more than $5 million.

1:04:25 You get taxed more.

1:04:27 Yeah.

1:04:27 And he's like saying it won't be that big

1:04:28 a deal and it will it'll give the city $500

1:04:31 million in in extra revenue that they could use

1:04:35 for all kinds of things that they want to do,

1:04:37 which is great if you've cut out all the fraud, [laughter]

1:04:42 but you haven't.

1:04:43 And so, you're not even concentrating on the fraud.

1:04:45 You're not even admitting the fraud exists.

1:04:46 You're not even admitting the waste exists.

1:04:49 Yeah.

1:04:49 How about you tell us where all the money to NOS's went?

1:04:54 How about you tell us that?

1:04:55 How about you tell us where all the homeless money went?

1:04:58 What' you spend it on?

1:04:59 There's all these homeless people.

1:05:01 It seems like no, someone didn't do a good job and got a lot of money.

1:05:04 What happened?

1:05:05 And you want more money?

1:05:06 That's a crazy answer.

1:05:08 And it's also like the idea that rich people are inherently like privileged.

1:05:12 It's very bizarre.

1:05:12 Like I'm not rich, but I do pretty well.

1:05:14 Like I do I do better than you know much

1:05:16 better than the average American financially you know um a lot

1:05:19 of people would consider me you know pretty well to do

1:05:22 but like I grew up welfare drug addict mother dad's

1:05:25 dad when I was four years old I had to[ __]

1:05:27 I spent 15 years doing comedy making zero dollars investing

1:05:31 into this thing to hopefully one day on the other

1:05:33 side of it be able to reap the benefits of it.

1:05:37 So now that I've finally broken through the other side

1:05:39 you're like oh well no you don't deserve all that money.

1:05:41 We deserve some of that money.

1:05:42 That's crazy.

1:05:42 Yeah.

1:05:43 There's a weird concept in this country

1:05:45 and it's because of the billionaire class.

1:05:49 So there's a level of the game where they've passed so far.

1:05:53 See if everybody only got this is like what people would like to say,

1:05:56 you know, being a millionaire is fine.

1:05:58 Nobody should be a billionaire.

1:05:59 We should have a cap on wealth.

1:06:01 The problem with that is you're going to also have a cap on motivation.

1:06:07 Yeah.

1:06:06 So a lot of these people psychopaths.

1:06:08 A lot of these people that run these corporations are[ __]

1:06:11 psychopaths and they work 16 hours a day, seven days a week.

1:06:14 And the only reason why they do that is because they know

1:06:17 that they can make a hundred billion dollars if they do that.

1:06:21 And if you stop that, you're going to stop iPhones.

1:06:25 You're you're not going to have Lenovo laptops.

1:06:28 You're not going to have any of these things.

1:06:29 If you if that's where it's weird for people,

1:06:32 like you're not going to have an Amazon

1:06:34 unless you have a guy who's a billionaire.

1:06:35 Like it's not going to See, the thing is No, it's not fair.

1:06:39 You're right.

1:06:40 It's not fair.

1:06:41 And here's the thing.

1:06:41 Would it be fair?

1:06:43 It is fair.

1:06:44 Kind of fair.

1:06:45 Life is kind of fair in a weird way.

1:06:47 Oh, please.

1:06:48 Depending on how you treat your employees.

1:06:51 Okay.

1:06:50 That's where we decide whether or not it's fair.

1:06:52 So, you're saying that Amazon doesn't treat their employees well?

1:06:54 I hear that a lot.

1:06:55 I hear that a lot, too.

1:06:56 I don't know if it's true,

1:06:57 but what I do know is that there's a lot of[ __] complaints.

1:07:01 And if there's a lot where there's smoke, probably some fire.

1:07:04 I know that there's like some efficiency things where you have like a clock

1:07:07 ticks off like if you order a[ __] a box of legal pads.

1:07:11 Yeah.

1:07:12 You know those little notebooks you have to this guy has to get

1:07:16 that in the box in like 30 seconds or whatever the[ __] it is.

1:07:19 So he has to run around like people

1:07:20 are literally like moving quickly around the warehouse.

1:07:23 Yeah.

1:07:23 They're like you hear stories and once again you

1:07:25 have to take everything with a grain of salt.

1:07:26 Like employees become bitter sometimes.

1:07:28 You know what I'm saying?

1:07:29 Like most people hate their boss.

1:07:31 True.

1:07:31 But that job does sounds like it sucks and it sounds like you're

1:07:33 asking people to run around because you want to make the most money possible,

1:07:37 but you're paying them not that great.

1:07:39 Like that's a weird one because you're

1:07:41 also setting up the inevitable, which is robots

1:07:45 because they're going to be able to do that way easier and quicker.

1:07:47 They're going to know exactly where the product is.

1:07:49 They're not going to have to look on their[ __] little iPad.

1:07:51 They're going to know exactly where it is.

1:07:52 They're going to go right to it, package it.

1:07:54 They're going to print out instantaneously.

1:07:57 They're never going to the bathroom, never leak.

1:07:59 They don't need food.

1:08:00 Nope.

1:08:01 They never complain.

1:08:02 You're[ __] no matter what because they're going to lay off a bunch of people.

1:08:05 There's no if ends or buts.

1:08:07 Oh, yeah.

1:08:07 That that that is going to be really effective.

1:08:09 You're talking about like how AI and robots

1:08:11 are going to like affect certain industries driving,

1:08:14 you know, factory workers, things like that.

1:08:15 That's all just going away.

1:08:17 Yeah.

1:08:17 That's the real threat to your job, not the billionaires.

1:08:19 But the thing is, like you see a guy,

1:08:22 whether it's like Elon Musk or someone like

1:08:24 I think Elon's supposedly worth like 800 billion now,

1:08:27 and people just get really angry.

1:08:28 They really get upset.

1:08:30 Like, and think about how much that would help if he gave his money away.

1:08:33 And I get what you're saying, but the problem is give the money away to who?

1:08:39 Give the money away to the people that have[

1:08:41 __] up the money that we've already given them.

1:08:43 Like, you got to be honest about, look, the idea is great.

1:08:46 Wouldn't it be wonderful if Elon Musk just gave away a hundred

1:08:50 billion dollars and we completely fixed all poverty and homelessness is gone.

1:08:54 No more food problems.

1:08:56 everyone.

1:08:57 No starvation on earth.

1:08:59 The idea that throwing money at homeless

1:09:02 people is just going to fix the problem.

1:09:05 Exactly.

1:09:05 I mean, I'm Believe me, I I have empathy.

1:09:07 I'm not going like, "Oh,[ __] the homeless."

1:09:08 I I don't have that attitude at all.

1:09:10 But at the same time, it's like wherever you go, there you are.

1:09:13 The idea of giving the government money to fix things.

1:09:16 Oh, that's crazy.

1:09:17 That's insane.

1:09:18 That's actually If you ever try to try to go to a government building,

1:09:21 you you see the inefficiency.

1:09:23 If you just try to call to get some information about your taxes,

1:09:26 if you try to call the IRS, you see the inefficiency.

1:09:29 You're like, there's no[ __] way, dude.

1:09:30 And it's just honestly, it's designed to be that way.

1:09:33 It's designed to be really intricate and difficult,

1:09:35 and there's a lot of people that have to get paid.

1:09:37 So, it's like that.

1:09:38 And that's I was so excited about Elon

1:09:39 and Trump getting together and and doing the um Doge.

1:09:43 Yeah.

1:09:43 Yeah.

1:09:43 Doge.

1:09:44 I was like, what a great idea.

1:09:45 Two real brilliant business minds trying to figure

1:09:48 out government efficiency and trying to save us money.

1:09:50 I was like, they're going to do it.

1:09:51 And of course, nothing happened.

1:09:52 Well, some things happened.

1:09:54 A lot of things did get shut down.

1:09:56 And it also opened up a lot of people's eyes

1:09:58 to the understanding of what an NGO is and where the money goes.

1:10:02 And when people found out how many NOS's

1:10:04 there are and how much money gets spent,

1:10:06 they're like, "Wait, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

1:10:08 Can we get an accounting of this stuff?" Like, this sounds nuts.

1:10:11 There's so much money that's being sent

1:10:14 out to these nonprofits and these organizations.

1:10:17 Like, did you see hear when Spencer Pratt was on the podcast?

1:10:21 No, I didn't.

1:10:21 he's running for mayor of New York or excuse me of Los Angeles.

1:10:25 And one of the things that he was talking about

1:10:28 was the fire aid.

1:10:29 Like so the money that they generated over $und00 million was generated

1:10:34 uh for the people that lost their homes in the Pacific Palisades fire.

1:10:38 All of it went to these NOS's

1:10:41 like it went to he said what did

1:10:42 he say 20 different how many different 200 different

1:10:46 I think it was 200 different Yeah.

1:10:48 200 different nonprofits got the money that was supposed to go to the houses,

1:10:53 the people that lost their house.

1:10:56 Yeah.

1:10:55 Hundred million dollars and they just divvied it up.

1:10:58 And how much of that money?

1:10:59 20% goes to actual people.

1:11:01 The rest is they don't even know how many people are getting benefit from it.

1:11:06 Yeah.

1:11:06 It's I mean if you there's like lists of like charities

1:11:09 and nonprofits and how what the percentage is that actually goes to insane.

1:11:14 They divided up between 200 [clears throat] different nonprofits.

1:11:17 How about give it to the people?

1:11:18 Yeah.

1:11:19 Because the thing about these nonprofits,

1:11:20 they rely on that kind of money in order to pay their staff.

1:11:23 And some of these, you find out some

1:11:24 of these people that are working for these government agencies,

1:11:27 is another thing that Spencer has uncovered.

1:11:29 There's like a a ton of them that are

1:11:31 making more than a half a million dollars a year.

1:11:33 Oh, yeah.

1:11:34 Oh, yeah.

1:11:35 [laughter] But there's a weird thing with like the nonprofits

1:11:38 like all right if you if you have to attract like

1:11:40 a CEO from like a major corporation to come and make

1:11:43 this nonprofit efficient and to really generate as much revenue as possible.

1:11:47 Like if they're making more money because they have a really competent CEO

1:11:50 and a really competent staff and only 20% of it is going to help people,

1:11:54 but it's still 200% of what the next company's doing.

1:11:57 I guess it's it's worth it, right?

1:11:59 Well, the thing is they're not a company.

1:12:02 [clears throat] They're the government.

1:12:03 So, they're not held accountable.

1:12:05 They're they're not supposed to be efficient.

1:12:07 They don't they don't have to be profitable.

1:12:09 They don't have to do like a good audit of their business.

1:12:13 This is one of the things that Elon said,

1:12:14 if any of these[ __] companies, he's like,

1:12:16 if any one of them that like where they just sent out

1:12:19 billions of dollars and they have no accounting and no receipts for it,

1:12:22 he goes, if you were a part of a publicly traded company, you would be tried.

1:12:27 You would your company would lose its credit.

1:12:30 Yeah.

1:12:30 Your your company would fall off the stock market.

1:12:32 it it would be like a[ __] company now and you would go to jail

1:12:36 like you that's totally illegal but in government

1:12:39 it's standard practice so the the in inefficiency

1:12:42 is built in I was reading something about

1:12:44 California tell me if this is true they were

1:12:46 talking about California's see put this into perplexity

1:12:50 California the percentage of people that live in California

1:12:54 went up by a small amount but the percentage

1:12:57 of government went up by a large amount

1:13:00 there's the percentage of people with government jobs

1:13:03 went up considerably whereas the population didn't go up.

1:13:07 I don't know if this is true.

1:13:08 This is why I want to have it looked up.

1:13:10 But

1:13:12 when you just stop and think about the fact

1:13:13 that it's a business to hire people to be inefficient

1:13:17 and that it's within your best interest to not just never

1:13:21 be efficient and never solve the problem because if you do,

1:13:24 you're out of a job,

1:13:25 but also to make the problem bigger every year so you could

1:13:27 hire more people and get a bigger raise and a bigger thing.

1:13:30 And that's why this homeless thing in California.

1:13:34 It's like more than $24 billion they spent on the homeless

1:13:38 on what though?

1:13:39 What are they doing?

1:13:40 Exactly.

1:13:40 What are they exactly?

1:13:41 So, they've [clears throat] tried to get

1:13:42 audits and Newsome has vetoed the audits.

1:13:48 Wow.

1:13:47 Which is crazy that they could say no,

1:13:51 you can't find out if any fraud or any waste has happened with tax dollars.

1:13:56 No, we're going to stop that investigation.

1:13:58 Well, that's crazy.

1:13:59 Yeah.

1:13:59 And that that's So there I would vote for almost anybody who if they

1:14:03 just said I'm going to cut your taxes in half, they have my vote.

1:14:06 The problem is what are you doing with the taxes

1:14:10 there should if AI has a role in solving this?

1:14:13 What AI should be able to do it's like

1:14:15 we should say yeah you tax me a fair amount.

1:14:18 I'm happy to pay taxes if I'm if it's going to public schools and public roads.

1:14:23 I absolutely feel very happy to contribute and I want the [clears

1:14:26 throat] world to be a better place because of my tax dollars.

1:14:29 But also, where's it going?

1:14:32 Yeah, it's going to

1:14:32 Where's it going?

1:14:33 Bomb school children overseas and to fund wars that most people don't want.

1:14:38 So,

1:14:39 and transgender dancing in Indonesia.

1:14:41 Like,

1:14:42 is that a thing that's happening?

1:14:43 Oh, there's weird[ __] They spent $250

1:14:46 million doing uh transsexual operations on animals.

1:14:53 Experimenting on animals to turn them trans.

1:14:55 No, no, no[ __] No[ __] 250.

1:14:58 I think it was $251 million.

1:15:00 Oh my [laughter] god.

1:15:02 Yeah, they spent $2 million giving cocaine to dogs.

1:15:05 California's population has dipped slightly since 2020 while government jobs

1:15:08 have been one of the few areas of job growth.

1:15:11 So yes, government employee employment has generally increased

1:15:14 even as the population growth stalled or reversed.

1:15:18 So what is the percentage?

1:15:20 So total job growth has slowed sharply.

1:15:23 Statewide employment grew by uh only about half of a percent in 2023,

1:15:29 then actually fell slightly down about 100 uh 11,200 jobs or 0.1% in 2025.

1:15:37 State overall is only a few% in jobs compared

1:15:40 with before the pandemic and it lags the national growth rate.

1:15:47 So how many more jobs?

1:15:49 What's the percentage more?

1:15:51 I think that's more Is it because people are leaving California?

1:15:55 So it says in 2025 private employers there's a lot of that cut about 31,000 jobs

1:16:01 while government employers added about 20,200 jobs driven

1:16:07 mostly by a gain of 45,800 local government positions.

1:16:12 So they added 45,000 government positions

1:16:15 while private employers cut 31,000 jobs.

1:16:20 So they just keep making the government bigger.

1:16:22 So the economy

1:16:25 Yeah.

1:16:25 [laughter]

1:16:26 fuels the government.

1:16:26 The government controls the economy.

1:16:28 It's all nuts.

1:16:30 Yeah.

1:16:30 When I mean when you say government job,

1:16:32 that's like people like a clerk that works in like the courthouse.

1:16:35 That also counts, right?

1:16:36 They Yeah.

1:16:36 But they also do weird[ __] like they have to have new regulations.

1:16:39 They have to have people that make regulations now and justify

1:16:42 their jobs [clears throat] if there's a lot of government jobs.

1:16:44 So then you get wacky rulings like

1:16:46 California recently they're banning blackjack in casinos.

1:16:50 No more blackjack.

1:16:51 Why not blackjack?

1:16:53 Putting a foot down.

1:16:54 No more blackjack in River City.

1:16:57 Why?

1:16:57 Why no blackjack?

1:16:58 I don't understand it.

1:16:59 No one understands it.

1:17:00 [laughter] It doesn't make any[ __] sense.

1:17:01 You can play poker.

1:17:02 You can't play blackjack.

1:17:03 How about[ __] you stay away from me.

1:17:06 Yeah.

1:17:06 How about if I earn uh $2,000 in a week and I want to take

1:17:11 $500 and go to the casino and try to win more or lose it.

1:17:15 How about[ __] you, you leave me the[ __] alone.

1:17:19 You're just another human being.

1:17:20 You should have no opinion.

1:17:23 Well, they want to The government wants to get their hands in every

1:17:24 vice because they know they know we can't we can't give up our vices.

1:17:29 We can't give up alcohol and weed and cigarettes and gambling and prostitution.

1:17:33 They're not getting rid of gambling.

1:17:34 That's the thing.

1:17:35 They're still paying the casinos still pay taxes, right?

1:17:39 You just eliminated one of their[ __] ways to make money.

1:17:42 Is there Is there a public reason why they've said it?

1:17:44 I'd like to find out.

1:17:46 Yeah.

1:17:45 Let's find out what What's the public?

1:17:47 Blackjack is my only game.

1:17:48 That's it.

1:17:48 That's

1:17:49 Do you know what you're doing or you're a wild[ __] who hits 17?

1:17:52 No, I'm good.

1:17:52 I'm good at blackjack.

1:17:53 I mean, I'm good.

1:17:54 I'm I know the rules of the book and I play by the rules and I

1:17:58 I sit down at the table expecting to lose everything and if I don't, I'm happy.

1:18:01 That's that.

1:18:02 Yeah.

1:18:02 Jamie wants some money.

1:18:03 Shane wants some money.

1:18:04 Blackjack.

1:18:05 Yeah, they were doing pretty good.

1:18:06 The watching Dana White do it is gives you[ __] anxiety though, dude.

1:18:10 Just like crazy bets.

1:18:12 He was $600,000 down when I met him there.

1:18:15 [laughter] I was like, dude, this is crazy.

1:18:18 And I was watching these people.

1:18:19 That kid Aiden Ross, you know, that streamer kid, that kid lost a million bucks.

1:18:23 I'm just like, lost a million.

1:18:24 Like, how much is he making?

1:18:26 I take $500 out every time.

1:18:28 According to this was banned from card rooms, not casinos.

1:18:32 That's kind of a different thing.

1:18:33 Oh, that's right.

1:18:33 It is a card room where they play poker.

1:18:35 That's right.

1:18:36 Cuz their casinos are different.

1:18:37 Their casinos are only like in uh

1:18:40 And that's what this whole thing

1:18:41 Indian places, right?

1:18:42 It says this whole reservations.

1:18:43 Yeah.

1:18:44 Same the same thing in Jersey, New York.

1:18:45 Yeah.

1:18:46 The '9s.

1:18:47 So that's right.

1:18:47 But what is Wait a minute.

1:18:48 What's the Bicycle Club casino?

1:18:50 Isn't that a casino?

1:18:52 I don't know who runs it, but it's on It's in California.

1:18:56 Like it's in like Orange County.

1:18:58 Bicycle Club Casino.

1:19:02 So, uh, the reason why I know about that place

1:19:06 is I used to go there to watch professional pool tournaments.

1:19:10 And then I that was the first time I realized like,

1:19:12 oh, there's a casino in California, like right off the highway.

1:19:16 I think it's off what what highway is that off of?

1:19:20 But it's like if you're going down to like do a gig in San Diego,

1:19:24 you'll you'll pass by this place if you go down one of the roads.

1:19:29 710.

1:19:28 710.

1:19:29 [clears throat] Yeah.

1:19:29 There you go.

1:19:31 But uh so what is that?

1:19:34 Did do they have blackjack there?

1:19:36 Because I know they had poker there.

1:19:38 You know, Ari Shafir during his uh early days

1:19:40 of comedy would make a living going to poker tournaments.

1:19:45 Playing.

1:19:44 Yeah, that's how good he is at poker.

1:19:46 Really?

1:19:46 Oh yeah, man.

1:19:47 He [clears throat] would snap off poker tournaments all the time.

1:19:50 Some people are good.

1:19:50 I like it's just a patience thing.

1:19:53 Well, he just plays it like for him it was a job.

1:19:55 He's like I play it like it's a job.

1:19:56 He's like, "These people all get drunk and they

1:19:58 all get high and they're all[ __] stupid.

1:20:00 They make dumb choices." He goes,

1:20:01 "I I play smart against idiots and they get drunk and I win money."

1:20:06 It says it's technically a poker card room, but this says they have blackjack,

1:20:10 but maybe they fell in the rules where they're not allowed to have it now, too.

1:20:12 I don't.

1:20:14 Right.

1:20:14 Three card poker and bakarat.

1:20:16 We were talking about Bakarat the other day because that's

1:20:19 what Dana White's moved to because you get more money.

1:20:22 Is that like uh It's kind of like blackjack but no,

1:20:24 I'm thinking of the Asian one.

1:20:25 What's the Asian move?

1:20:25 I have no idea what Bakarat It's three cards you got to get.

1:20:28 How many cards is Bakarat?

1:20:31 I have no idea how to play it.

1:20:32 I don't know what it is.

1:20:33 I've just heard it before.

1:20:35 Yeah, I've heard that name before.

1:20:35 I've never looked into it.

1:20:37 Yeah.

1:20:37 I I mean, I look at it as like going to uh like I don't like baseball,

1:20:40 but like I go to a baseball game and eat hot dogs and drink beer.

1:20:43 It's like the same thing as casino.

1:20:44 Like I'm not a big gambler.

1:20:45 I'm like I'm just going to drink and I'm going to have fun,

1:20:47 hang out with a chick.

1:20:48 Like it just seems like you can't win.

1:20:53 No.

1:20:52 And it's also what are you doing?

1:20:54 What are you doing?

1:20:55 just rolling dice every day.

1:20:56 That's crazy.

1:20:57 That's a You're spiking your adrenaline every day,

1:20:59 rolling dice for your[ __] mortgage.

1:21:01 Yeah, it's just a It's just a It's a game with stakes.

1:21:04 We Bakarat is a comparing card game play between two hands.

1:21:08 The player and the banker.

1:21:09 Each Bakarat coup uh round of play has three possible outcomes.

1:21:15 Player, player has the higher score, banker, and tie.

1:21:21 Okay.

1:21:21 Yeah.

1:21:21 They like it cuz you you it's a one quick bet

1:21:23 and you can bet up to 500k per hand, I think.

1:21:26 And then you can also tie so you don't lose.

1:21:28 It's not going to win or lose.

1:21:30 Oh my god.

1:21:32 Big swings.

1:21:32 Big swings.

1:21:33 Big fast swings.

1:21:34 [laughter] Jesus.

1:21:35 If you get down No, but I watch people play these games and go.

1:21:39 Look, I admire their balls.

1:21:41 Especially poker players.

1:21:43 Like, you got to be a smart[ __]

1:21:45 to to win those big World Series of poker things,

1:21:48 make a bunch of money playing poker.

1:21:51 Yeah, that's was uh one of my favorite scenes

1:21:53 from Rounders where they they talk about how uh I

1:21:56 always use that like analogy in life where they

1:21:58 talk about um people like oh they think it's luck.

1:22:01 They think that you know it's the luck of the the draw

1:22:03 and it's like if it was about if it

1:22:04 was luck why is it the same eight guys at the final

1:22:07 table of the World Series of Poker every single year.

1:22:10 Exactly.

1:22:10 It's like you're not playing the cards,

1:22:11 you're playing the game, you're playing each other.

1:22:13 I kind of like look at that like in life and I'm like it's

1:22:16 like the cards don't really matter as much as how you play them, you know?

1:22:19 Yeah.

1:22:19 Yeah, it's a complicated game.

1:22:21 It's And but why is that okay but blackjack isn't?

1:22:24 Like who[ __] says like says who?

1:22:28 Says who?

1:22:29 Why?

1:22:30 Why?

1:22:31 You know what I mean?

1:22:31 [clears throat] Why?

1:22:32 Why more regulations?

1:22:33 I'll tell you why.

1:22:35 Because they have to justify all these[ __] extra jobs.

1:22:38 That's a lot of where regulations come from.

1:22:39 And it's also there it's fun.

1:22:41 You could tell people what to do.

1:22:43 No more flavored zins.

1:22:44 Yeah.

1:22:45 There's like all these like just like weird

1:22:46 things that don't like there's like weird laws.

1:22:48 So, I live in Bergen County, New Jersey,

1:22:50 and it's like um they have blue laws still.

1:22:52 I don't know if you know what that is.

1:22:53 Oh, yeah.

1:22:53 Those are the best.

1:22:54 Sunday

1:22:55 Sunday, no like no, you can't buy clothes.

1:22:57 You can't buy like furniture.

1:22:59 You can't buy clothes.

1:23:00 Can't buy clothes on Sundays.

1:23:01 [laughter] Walmart.

1:23:04 Walmart.

1:23:04 What if you[ __] your pants?

1:23:05 Are you new to town?

1:23:06 You're[ __] [laughter] You got to walk around

1:23:08 and smell like[ __] But Walmart in uh New Jersey,

1:23:13 they rope off the clothing section.

1:23:15 They have it set up to where like you literally can't go past it.

1:23:18 You still buy food, but you can't go to the clothing section.

1:23:20 When I was a kid, um there was no

1:23:23 alcohol for sale in Sundays on in uh Massachusetts.

1:23:28 Yeah.

1:23:27 And so we had to go to New Hampshire to get beer.

1:23:29 So we'd make a what we call a pachy run because they

1:23:32 would call them package stores and you know with that Boston accent,

1:23:36 mush, you want to go to the pachy and we have to drive.

1:23:40 Everybody was mush.

1:23:41 There was a there was a time there was this was a Newton North

1:23:44 thing and people from Massachusetts I think maybe people still use this but they

1:23:49 would call instead of dude it would be mush mush everybody was mush

1:23:52 mush we going mush we going out like girls would say it to you

1:23:55 mush you taking me out it was weird and it's only this one part

1:23:59 of the city had mush like my part didn't have mush but a few

1:24:03 people tried it out it started catching on with my part of the city

1:24:07 but in Newton North I was in Newton South Newton North everybody was mush.

1:24:11 It was like everybody's nick.

1:24:12 It was weird like a a virus of like language went through the entire city.

1:24:17 Dude, thick of thick accents from like

1:24:19 certain American cities on women just so unattractive.

1:24:22 That's a [laughter] rough one.

1:24:23 Boston got really hot to bypass that accent.

1:24:26 Philly.

1:24:26 You meet a girl from Philly.

1:24:27 A rough one.

1:24:28 Hard [snorts] girls, but probably a lot of fun.

1:24:30 Oh yeah.

1:24:30 So we would we'd have to drive to New Hampshire.

1:24:32 So we take we'd have to drive an hour and a half to go get booze.

1:24:35 Yeah.

1:24:35 No, that that exists in certain places still.

1:24:37 In New Jersey it's like you can't Yeah.

1:24:39 It's got to be a liquor store specifically.

1:24:41 You can't buy beer in a supermarket.

1:24:43 I grew up in in the suburbs in New York,

1:24:44 so you could buy beer in the supermarket.

1:24:46 Made it where you couldn't buy wine for a while.

1:24:48 Then for a couple years, you could buy wine.

1:24:50 It's all these dumb[ __] laws.

1:24:52 They're all Chick-fil-A laws.

1:24:53 Yeah.

1:24:53 Yeah.

1:24:53 [laughter] Exactly.

1:24:54 Yeah.

1:24:55 But

1:24:56 Chick-fil-A is so silly.

1:24:58 They take Sundays off for the Lord.

1:25:00 Like, bro, you're grinding chickens up with titanium and aluminum in it.

1:25:05 Like, what the[ __] are you talking about?

1:25:07 Yeah.

1:25:08 But it's good.

1:25:08 Delicious.

1:25:09 It's[ __] delicious.

1:25:10 God damn, it's delicious.

1:25:10 If you make a del if you just make a delicious sandwich,

1:25:13 I don't care what your beliefs are.

1:25:15 It's so delicious that even gay people eat there.

1:25:17 Think of that.

1:25:19 Yeah.

1:25:18 All the[ __] that guy's talked about the gays.

1:25:20 The gay people are like, "Put it aside and have some chicken.

1:25:23 [laughter]

1:25:24 Whatever.

1:25:24 The chicken.

1:25:25 He's just a bitch."

1:25:26 But they got What is that weird ingredient

1:25:28 that we found out was in the uh the bread?

1:25:32 It was something kooky, right?

1:25:34 Yeah.

1:25:34 It's aluminum something or other, but it's in a lot of things.

1:25:38 Yeah.

1:25:38 Yeah.

1:25:38 Yeah.

1:25:38 Yeah.

1:25:39 But it's in there.

1:25:39 It's in there.

1:25:40 [laughter]

1:25:41 I've seen something about the blue lot.

1:25:43 You can't buy a car on Sunday in Texas.

1:25:45 That's hilarious.

1:25:46 That's wild.

1:25:46 Yeah.

1:25:47 It's so weird.

1:25:47 Oh, that makes sense.

1:25:48 That makes sense.

1:25:49 What's funny is there so there's a mall in New Jersey.

1:25:51 The mall not Mall American Dream Mall.

1:25:55 Huge huge huge mall.

1:25:56 Like one of these like super malls, right?

1:25:58 Like you know[ __] there's a water park inside.

1:26:00 There's a there's a

1:26:01 water park.

1:26:02 Okay.

1:26:02 There's a ski um you can learn skiing.

1:26:05 It's like a fake ski hill.

1:26:07 A Snow Hill.

1:26:08 Yes.

1:26:08 Year year round.

1:26:09 You can take ski and snowboard lessons.

1:26:11 Oh, that would help so much.

1:26:12 It's so cool, dude.

1:26:12 It's It's really cool.

1:26:13 They got like, you know, a bunch of escape rooms.

1:26:15 It's just a massive massive mall.

1:26:17 Yeah, it is.

1:26:17 That's nuts.

1:26:18 Yeah.

1:26:18 Inside, dude.

1:26:19 They got a water park.

1:26:20 They got a Nickelodeon studios.

1:26:21 There's like a theme park inside of the mall.

1:26:23 It's a crazy mall.

1:26:24 And they just said, "Fuck it.

1:26:26 We're opening Sundays."

1:26:28 There's a big sign right on the side of it's like, "We're open Sundays.

1:26:30 We don't care." And Pamis uh is suing them.

1:26:32 Paramis is one of the biggest shopping cities in the country, I believe.

1:26:36 Imagine the government is saying you can't do business

1:26:39 with a bunch of people that want to come to your business.

1:26:42 Crazy because it's a different day.

1:26:44 Yep.

1:26:44 __] you.

1:26:45 What was funny is it's not the government.

1:26:47 I looked into this cuz I was going like, "What the[ __] going on here?"

1:26:50 The people, all these old[ __] people

1:26:52 that have been living in this community forever,

1:26:55 they it goes to a vote and every year they go, "No, no, no.

1:26:58 We don't want traffic.

1:26:59 We want Sundays in Bergen County to be[ __] relaxing

1:27:02 and nice and beautiful because there's no taxes." I think,

1:27:05 but I believe to this day on clothing there's no taxes in Jersey.

1:27:08 So, we would do our school shopping in Jersey when I was growing up.

1:27:10 We would just drive 30 minutes to to Bergen County and go to the mall.

1:27:14 Um, and you save money on taxes.

1:27:16 Um, so yeah, but uh yeah, that that mall was just like,[ __] it.

1:27:21 And then a huge sign.

1:27:22 I'm talking about like the mall's so big.

1:27:24 The sign I don't even like I don't even

1:27:25 know how you would make a sign this[ __] big,

1:27:27 but it's just draped down the sign.

1:27:29 We're down the side.

1:27:30 We're open on Sundays.

1:27:31 They don't give a[ __] So, are they getting sued now?

1:27:33 They're being sued by Pramis.

1:27:35 I bet they're going to win.

1:27:36 This doesn't make sense.

1:27:37 That law is stupid.

1:27:39 Do you need business?

1:27:40 Yes.

1:27:40 Is the economy down?

1:27:41 Yes.

1:27:42 Wouldn't it be better if people had the option

1:27:44 to be able to go to the[ __] mall on Sunday?

1:27:46 Especially somebody who works every[ __] day and maybe they have

1:27:49 to work Saturday as well and Sunday's their only day off.

1:27:51 How about let them go there to buy some pants?

1:27:54 Y[ __] [laughter] control freak.

1:27:57 Let him buy a[ __] hat.

1:27:58 What's wrong with [laughter] you, you[ __] We're the government.

1:28:02 We got guns.

1:28:03 You can't shop here.

1:28:04 __] you, man.

1:28:06 That's the problem is the problem is these[ __][

1:28:08 __] just keep adding more and more regulations.

1:28:12 Yeah, it's dumb.

1:28:13 What else can't you do in Texas on Sunday?

1:28:17 Uh,

1:28:16 what was that one that was dumb that you just said?

1:28:19 Can't buy a car.

1:28:19 Can't buy a car.

1:28:20 The thing was you couldn't buy You

1:28:22 couldn't sell things on consecutive weekend days,

1:28:24 so everybody just sort of picked Saturday, it says.

1:28:27 Huh.

1:28:28 That's ridiculous.

1:28:29 You can't buy liquor on Sundays here.

1:28:30 Phil in Texas.

1:28:31 Yeah,

1:28:33 you can in a restaurant, but not at a store.

1:28:36 So, at the supermarket, what do they do?

1:28:38 They say, "We can't sell you that cuz it's Sunday." You can It's the Lord's day.

1:28:42 We can't sell We could sell you beer.

1:28:44 You could drink yourself to death on some hooch.

1:28:46 They give you some wine.

1:28:48 Like, you go to one city, it's like the like it's so strict.

1:28:51 Then you go to like New Orleans and like they're like they

1:28:54 just have like people will hand you a beer at a window.

1:28:56 You just walk down the street, you're partying in the streets.

1:28:58 like it's such a weird like differentiation between like each jurisdiction.

1:29:03 Yeah.

1:29:03 We were doing a gig down there and the guy uh who was a driver,

1:29:06 he was telling me about how uh he went

1:29:09 somewhere else and the cops pulled him over because

1:29:11 he had an open drink and he was walking

1:29:13 down the street and he and the the guy goes,

1:29:16 "Where are you from?" And he goes, "Norand." And he's like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:29:19 You can't do that anywhere else." Like that [laughter] thing that you

1:29:23 do in Vegas,

1:29:24 can you you watch the beer?

1:29:26 Okay, that's good.

1:29:27 I think you could do it on Sixth Street in Austin.

1:29:30 Can you?

1:29:30 I think No, you can.

1:29:32 No.

1:29:32 I think people do it.

1:29:33 People definitely do it.

1:29:34 They definitely do it.

1:29:35 I've seen them.

1:29:35 Yeah.

1:29:36 I don't think you're allowed to.

1:29:37 Well, is there any enforcement of that law?

1:29:39 That's probably not the main thing they're worried about.

1:29:41 I don't think most days.

1:29:43 Boy, a lot of sloppy fights on Sixth Street.

1:29:45 There's a there's entire YouTube and Instagram

1:29:47 pages dedicated to Sixth Street fights.

1:29:51 Just brutal.

1:29:51 I saw I saw one I don't know if it was Six Street,

1:29:53 but I saw one where was a dude who obviously had like wrestling experience.

1:29:57 I mean, dude, he suplexed this dude.

1:29:58 He paralyzed a guy.

1:30:00 Oh god.

1:30:00 He he suplexed a guy on the concrete completely laid out completely.

1:30:05 Jesus Christ.

1:30:06 And it's like, god damn, dude.

1:30:07 Just like that.

1:30:08 Two lives over, right?

1:30:09 This guy, he's now in a [snorts] wheelchair for the rest of his life.

1:30:12 This guy is going to[ __] jail.

1:30:14 That's that.

1:30:14 Oh god.

1:30:15 Over not being able to control your emotions.

1:30:17 Yeah.

1:30:17 No, you're not allowed to do that in Austin.

1:30:19 Only on like certain events when it's like a festival or something.

1:30:23 God, booze is so bad for people.

1:30:25 Yeah.

1:30:25 booze and being a young man and being foolish.

1:30:30 Ego.

1:30:30 Yeah, ego.

1:30:31 Just need the need to prove yourself.

1:30:32 Also, like you're a wrestler.

1:30:34 You really know how to wrestle.

1:30:35 You're going to pile drive this dude into the concrete.

1:30:37 It's It's weird because it's usually it's guys that don't know how

1:30:39 to fight that are doing stupid guys that know how to fight.

1:30:41 Typically, maybe the other guy had it coming.

1:30:43 I [clears throat] don't know what happened, but no one has that coming,

1:30:46 but I mean, maybe he started the fight.

1:30:48 I don't, you know, I shouldn't have said it had it coming.

1:30:52 But having a any kind of a altercation on the concrete is so[ __] dangerous.

1:30:59 Dudes die all the time when they get KO'ed.

1:31:01 And most guys that especially if guys sucker punch guys and they just fall

1:31:05 back and the whole weight of their body bangs off the back of their head.

1:31:09 It is so devastating.

1:31:11 You might as well hit them with a[ __] giant metal crowbar.

1:31:15 You might as well

1:31:17 Yeah, you might as well.

1:31:18 It's worse than getting hit with a baseball bat probably.

1:31:21 That falls so scary.

1:31:22 And I've seen it so many times, man, on online.

1:31:25 Yeah.

1:31:25 Just six feet straight back.

1:31:27 Your head just cracks on the concrete

1:31:29 and it's all that leverage from all of your weight.

1:31:31 It's like a whip on the back of your head.

1:31:34 Heads crack wide open.

1:31:35 Man,

1:31:36 there's like a guy who just got in trouble

1:31:37 for like just pushing this some dude having a bad day.

1:31:40 Just push this old guy to the ground.

1:31:43 Guy cracked his head on the floor, died.

1:31:44 I saw that.

1:31:45 Yeah.

1:31:45 Yeah, I saw that.

1:31:46 And the guy was like,

1:31:47 he that's that was his argument or his his defense was like,

1:31:49 "I was having a really bad day." Oh, Jesus Christ.

1:31:52 __] nuts, dude.

1:31:52 People are insane.

1:31:53 I know.

1:31:53 How about the people that push people in front of subways?

1:31:56 How[ __] psycho is that?

1:31:59 Yeah.

1:31:58 These people wait.

1:32:00 They wait for a subway to come and they want

1:32:01 to push somebody in front of it just to watch.

1:32:03 And then you have to like stand around hoping that one

1:32:07 of those people isn't here while you're ready to get on your train, dude.

1:32:09 Yeah.

1:32:10 [laughter] in a place like New York or, you know, you know,

1:32:13 really urban sort of environment where

1:32:15 there's[ __] lots of crazies walking around.