Coral and the number 420
Lateral with Tom Scott
0:07 What can a fossilized coral from 420 million
0:11 years ago tell geophysicists about the number 420?
0:17 And I'll read that again.
0:19 What can a fossilized coral from 420 million
0:22 years ago tell geophysicists about the number 420?
0:29 So 420, we all know what that means, right?
0:31 Right.
0:31 Well this, of course, look.
0:33 We would be, you know, we'd be lying if we didn't all immediately
0:36 think that 420 is a number that means weed.
0:40 It means 'blazing it'.
0:41 Yeah.
0:41 There is a reason here in Colorado where, why the road mileage signs,
0:46 you know, you go 416, 417, 418, 419, 419.99 miles, and then 421 miles.
0:57 People are still stealing the 419.99 signs though.
1:00 Yeah, they definitely are.
1:01 (laughs) (snickers) I'm remembering there's something...
1:04 I think this is actually ocean floor, but I'm gonna say it in case it's close.
1:07 The Earth's magnetic poles flip every so often...
1:12 and you can see that in geological records.
1:16 So I'm wondering if there's something similar in coral growth?
1:19 You heard the thing about how they have
1:21 no idea when that magnetism flip would happen,
1:24 and if it happens, everything's screwed, society is screwed.
1:29 Just, it's like one of those things that you
1:31 should kind of be a little bit worried about.
1:32 It's— I remember there being conspiracy theories about it.
1:35 I remember there being some book in the public library that was...
1:40 when I was a kid that was, "Oh,
1:41 the Earth's poles are gonna flip!" Full pseudoscience all the way through.
1:45 Should not have been in that library, but...
1:48 But couldn't they?
1:48 And also— Isn't that the thing?
1:49 Maybe I'm victim to pseudoscience.
1:52 Oh, I thank you, Producer David.
1:53 Every 200,000 to 300,000 years on average.
1:56 So, I don't see why that would be number 420.
1:59 Okay, so here's what I'd like to sort of see if we can focus in on.
2:04 So, Ben said that this coral taught the scientists about the number 420, right?
2:13 That was what you said?
2:14 Yeah, what do you learn about numbers themselves?
2:17 Yeah, that's what I'm stuck on.
2:18 It's like, what could you possibly learn about a number?
2:22 I will note that they're not just any scientists.
2:26 They are geophysicists.
2:27 Oh yeah.
2:28 That was why I was on Earth's magnetic pole.
2:31 Under a strict interpretation,
2:32 I feel like the things you learn about a number is like,
2:34 I'm thinking you can learn like, "Okay, this is like a prime number", right?
2:39 And various math things like that, right?
2:43 Yeah, what's coral gonna teach you about that?
2:45 Oh, oh, here's a thought.
2:48 Isn't there...
2:50 What's the...
2:52 This is another thing where it's like,
2:53 it's not quite this, but it's in the right direction, I think maybe.
2:56 Aren't there corals that are like...
2:58 What is that geometric structure where you zoom in, and it looks the same way?
3:03 Fractal, fractal.
3:05 Yes, fractals.
3:06 Are we...
3:08 (laughs) Is— Are we in the— Is this fractal related, Ben?
3:11 You stopped mid-thought there, Sam.
3:13 Look, I'm gonna say that what you're saying,
3:15 you're saying some cool, cool ass stuff.
3:18 It has...
3:18 Ugh.
3:19 absolutely nothing to do with the answer to this question.
3:23 What?
3:23 I was sure that it was gonna be a thing where it was like,
3:28 the coral, because of its shape, proves that the number 420 is like...
3:34 you know, prime or something.
3:35 I know it's not prime, but you know what mean.
3:37 I'm gonna redirect you.
3:38 Can I— Permission to give a clue?
3:40 Permission granted.
3:41 Oh wait, I'm not in charge of this.
3:43 (Tom and Adam laugh) Okay.
3:44 You're in charge, Ben.
3:46 Sam has given me permission, and he is my employer, so I am listening to him.
3:53 Look, coral, they're kinda like trees.
3:56 They've got growth rings, okay?
3:59 You can look at a coral— But trees are also fractals!
4:01 I don't care.
4:03 Okay.
4:03 Okay, wait, wait.
4:04 Let's...
4:07 You said that the coral is 420 million years old, right?
4:11 And we said that we learned something about the number 420.
4:15 Surely this means that it relates to something that happens every million years?
4:21 Or like, right?
4:23 It can't be a coincidence that it's 420 million years old,
4:26 and the thing we learned was about the number 420, right?
4:29 Those things are related.
4:31 It can absolutely be a coincidence.
4:33 This is Lateral.
4:34 It can 100% be a coincidence.
4:37 I'm trying to read Ben's face, which isn't good audio.
4:40 I feel like it's getting redder and more excited.
4:43 (laughs) Because Ben did say that he thought his thing was...
4:49 I forget exactly what he said,
4:50 but he was really excited about his thing and its ability to mislead us.
4:54 He said that coral has rings.
4:56 Okay, so like...
4:58 They're like, they're growth rings like trees, but they're much, much finer.
5:01 And what, like once you get 420 of them, then something happens?
5:10 Like...
5:11 I would say, I would think about what can..
5:16 What could the growth rings reflect?
5:19 They reflect something Oh?
5:21 that happens regularly in the environment of the coral.
5:23 Yeah.
5:24 So same as trees.
5:24 It's gonna be the ocean heating and cooling.
5:27 Presumably.
5:28 That's what causes growth rings in trees.
5:29 It's the summer and winter cycle.
5:31 So I assume it's heating and cooling of the water?
5:34 No.
5:36 Oh, what if it was something about the Moon?
5:38 What if it's something about the Moon, right?
5:39 Because the Moon affects the ocean, right?
5:42 And it affects the tides and stuff.
5:44 And maybe what this teaches us— Here's what I've got.
5:48 I think that this teaches us how quickly...
5:52 something about the way that the Moon's orbit is changing,
5:54 that like the Moon is getting slightly closer to or further
5:58 from the Earth at some rate of 420 years,
6:02 and that affects the water levels and the tides or whatever.
6:05 And you can see that in coral.
6:07 Final answer, lock it in.
6:08 You're definitely on the right track.
6:10 Did the lunar month used to be 420 days?
6:13 And we can track that through coral?
6:16 That is, again, close.
6:18 It is not what the...
6:22 what we've learned about the number 420.
6:25 But it relates to the cycles of the Moon?
6:28 It's not— I would focus still on the Earth.
6:32 But it has to do with the Moon.
6:35 They're geophysicists, right?
6:37 Is that helpful?
6:39 They're geophysicists.
6:40 Ben emphasized that.
6:41 So there's something that happens.
6:44 There's something that happens as relates to the Earth and the Moon.
6:48 Could it be eclipses?
6:50 Could it have to do with how often there's a lunar eclipse?
6:53 Or earthquakes or some geophysical thing?
6:58 This statistic...
7:00 is now a little bit smaller.
7:03 Huh.
7:04 What the hell does that mean?
7:06 In the modern day.
7:07 Every 420— This number was 420.
7:10 This number is smaller now.
7:12 Okay.
7:12 Is it that something happens once every 420 years on average?
7:16 Is that what they learned?
7:18 No.
7:19 Is it that something happens every 420 somethings?
7:23 Yes.
7:24 Okay.
7:25 Is it 420 units of time?
7:28 Y–Yes.
7:30 Year, days in a year.
7:31 There used to be 420 days in a year?
7:34 Ohhh!
7:34 That's it.
7:36 Yes.
7:36 Wait, we know that from coral?
7:39 We know that from coral that there used to be 420 days in a year.
7:45 Basically they would— you could tell from the layers how many...
7:51 lunar cycles would fit into one annual year.
7:55 And this reveals 420 daily growth bands in a year,
8:00 indicating that Earth once completed a full orbit
8:02 around the Sun in about 420 shorter days,
8:06 meaning that the planet was spinning faster.
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