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0:07 Once I started, you know, there was nothing else like it.

0:14 What are you holding in your hands now?

0:16 These are items that were seized out of Israel Keys' jail cell.

0:20 Has the public ever been shown this before?

0:23 No.

0:26 These skulls are drawn in blood.

0:29 The blood, where do you believe the blood came from?

0:32 I think it was Israel's blood.

0:33 Israel Keys is a serial killer who hid his crimes for many years.

0:39 He was meticulous.

0:41 He was incredibly bright.

0:43 And he was incredibly lethal.

0:45 And the significance of the 11 skulls, what is that?

0:49 We believe that 11 is the total number of victims.

0:52 I don't think anybody in his family, his friends,

0:55 his relationships, his spouses had any idea what he was doing.

0:59 It gives me the chills to think I had talked to him, had known him.

1:03 That's where I got my kicks, I guess,

1:06 was being able to live two different lives and have no one have a clue.

1:14 Unless you heard him talk about the murders,

1:16 you would not know that he was a serial killer.

1:19 With Keys, it wasn't about a particular victim.

1:22 It was about a location.

1:23 Why did you pick these skulls?

1:26 I didn't.

1:26 It was just random.

1:30 Samantha Koenig is an 18-year-old girl who was raised and lived in Alaska.

1:35 She went to high school here.

1:37 She worked at the coffee stand.

1:39 She was a young girl working her job.

1:42 I I'm terrified of what she went through.

1:46 But at this point, Samantha is just that she's making coffee.

1:49 She has no idea her entire life is about to change in a horrible way.

1:55 No.

1:57 People never expect this to happen to them.

2:01 And he would wait until he had the victims under control.

2:05 And then that's when I think the the real monster came out.

2:11 There's a specific way I wanted things done.

2:14 Very specific way I wanted things to happen.

2:16 And then And I have the whole thing planned out.

2:19 I have everything I need to do it.

2:22 He loved to travel.

2:23 Every time I drive, that I would be looking for places.

2:27 Good places to do stuff.

2:30 You'll see locations in Seattle, Gresham, Oregon, Port Angeles, Washington.

2:35 He would rent cars.

2:36 He would drive thousands of miles.

2:37 He would take people from one state and he would bury them in other states.

2:41 San Diego, Tijuana, Salt Lake City, Utah,

2:44 Cleveland, Ohio, Edmonds, Washington, Fort Wayne, Indiana.

2:48 There are potential victims wherever Israel Keyes traveled.

2:51 Do you believe that this weapon somewhere in the United

2:55 States may have been used to kill someone?

2:57 It's possible.

2:58 I had big plans for that gun.

3:03 We know that there are families out there whose

3:05 loved ones died at the hands of Israel Keyes.

3:09 Right now, we're just trying to find them.

4:03 In February of 2012, the residents of Anchorage,

4:07 Alaska were shaken by a frightening mystery.

4:10 It basically looked like someone just literally walked out of their shift.

4:15 It was the evening of February 1st when 18-year-old Samantha

4:19 Koenig vanished after her night shift at this roadside espresso stand.

4:24 She went to work that day expecting to go home.

4:27 Going to her boyfriend and her dad.

4:29 Michelle Tasker is a family friend.

4:32 Her boyfriend was supposed to pick her up that night.

4:34 But that didn't happen.

4:36 Multiple calls went unanswered.

4:39 Several hours later her boyfriend's cell phone

4:42 lit up with a message from Samantha's phone.

4:45 The text message said something to the effect of I'm going on vacation.

4:49 I'm tired.

4:49 You know, that she was just going away.

4:52 And she just left.

4:54 But we knew she hadn't left.

4:56 That wasn't her character.

4:57 So they knew something was wrong.

5:00 Something was terribly wrong.

5:02 And the next day investigators watched it all unfold on security camera video.

5:08 FBI special agent Jolene Goeden soon joined the team trying to find Samantha.

5:17 What are we looking at?

5:18 This is Samantha.

5:19 8:00 p.m.

5:20 is closing time.

5:21 So she's doing all of her normal things

5:22 that she would do to to get ready for closing.

5:24 That's when a masked man walked up to the window.

5:28 He wanted much more than just coffee.

5:31 So Samantha's over at the window here.

5:34 She handed something to the customer.

5:36 She backs up and this is where you see Samantha do this.

5:39 You see her raise her arms.

5:42 When you raise your hands like that, it's usually cuz somebody's doing that.

5:46 Something.

5:46 Exactly.

5:47 What started as an apparent robbery suddenly took a darker turn.

5:52 She turns the lights off.

5:54 Do you think her assailant said turn off the lights?

5:56 Yes.

5:56 At this point, you see an individual jump in through the window.

6:00 Uh Right through the window.

6:02 Right through the window.

6:04 Have you ever seen something like that before?

6:06 No.

6:08 And then you see two individuals walk away.

6:12 It It looks like an abduction.

6:16 As the news spread Please help find my daughter.

6:19 Samantha's father, James Koenig, went public.

6:22 I don't know if my daughter is being fed,

6:24 taken care of, if she's still alive, if she's getting any sleep.

6:30 As time went on, there was a tremendous amount of fear about what

6:35 happened and and who was in our community that could do something like this.

6:39 The FBI joined the Anchorage Police Department in looking at family and friends.

6:44 Did you have a sense you were getting to know this young woman?

6:47 Yes.

6:48 Yes.

6:49 FBI special agent Kat Nelson learned everything she

6:52 could about Samantha and the people she knew.

6:56 She seemed like she had a very good spirit.

6:58 Like she was a very kind individual, caring about others.

7:03 Um you could tell that she had a lot of friends that cared about her a lot.

7:08 Samantha's boyfriend was quickly ruled out as a suspect.

7:12 There was no obvious lead in this case.

7:16 And it posed so many um barriers for us

7:20 in the beginning as to where to start looking for her.

7:25 10 days after Samantha disappeared, a vigil was held.

7:30 Hundreds of people came.

7:31 What else can we do?

7:33 Flyers, hand out flyers, ask around.

7:35 If you know somebody who knows something get them to talk.

7:39 We just need some sort of that one lead,

7:41 that one that's going to bring her home.

7:46 As friends and family fan out across Anchorage to try to find Samantha,

7:51 the question is, could she also be out here,

7:54 somewhere in the Alaskan wilderness?

8:00 Then finally, after 3 agonizing weeks,

8:03 that's when the text came in that said there was a ransom note and where to go.

8:08 The text to Samantha's boyfriend was as mysterious as her disappearance.

8:13 It said to look in Connor Park under Pick of Albert.

8:18 It also said, "Ain't she pretty?" We just got up and just ran.

8:24 And everybody took off to the park.

8:27 One of the girls kind of noticed something on the bulletin board.

8:30 I walk up and there's a picture of a missing dog named Albert.

8:33 And right underneath is a plastic bag with a look

8:36 like a clipping and a photograph in it.

8:39 Didn't touch it.

8:40 We called the police.

8:42 That note contained a picture of Samantha and a long typed

8:46 out message that talked about putting $30,000 into Samantha's bank account.

8:53 That account was connected to Samantha's debit card, which the kidnapper had.

8:58 And the photo, which has not been made public,

9:00 was of Samantha holding a newspaper.

9:03 I believe it was dated February 13th, so well after Samantha's abduction.

9:07 So, the hope, of course, is that Samantha is alive.

9:11 Samantha's dad deposited $5,000 into her account.

9:16 Several hours later, a man makes an ATM withdrawal using Samantha's card.

9:22 He has a covering over his face, um dark clothing, he has gloves on his hands.

9:27 I mean, so it's there's very little you can tell.

9:29 Investigators rushed to the ATM,

9:32 but were too late, missing the suspect by minutes.

9:37 One week later, another ATM withdrawal is made.

9:41 This one is very different.

9:42 This withdrawal occurs in Wilcox, Arizona.

9:46 Nearly 4,000 miles away.

9:48 And then a short time later, we have one in Lordsburg, New Mexico.

9:53 Then Humble, Texas, and then Shepherd, Texas.

9:55 He's heading east.

9:56 He's heading east.

9:57 We can see that he's moving across the I-10 corridor.

10:00 But the suspect had made a crucial mistake.

10:03 During the ATM withdrawal in Arizona,

10:06 a white Ford Focus can be seen in the background.

10:10 That information was pushed out

10:11 to to law enforcement across that entire corridor.

10:14 Then, on March 13th, a state trooper notices a vehicle matching

10:19 that description in a Texas hotel parking lot.

10:23 Then a short time later, a man comes out.

10:25 He gets in the vehicle um and he starts to drive away.

10:29 The trooper follows.

10:30 And once that vehicle exceeds the speed limit,

10:33 he has his probable cause to pull that vehicle over.

10:37 And when he asks the driver for identification,

10:40 he ultimately presents him with an identification card for Israel Keyes.

10:45 And who the heck is Israel Keyes?

10:47 Israel Keyes was not even on our radar.

10:52 That trooper's instincts were spot-on.

10:55 A search of the car uncovers Samantha's ID, her debit card, her cell phone,

11:01 and a gun, along with a disguise that matched the man in the ATM photos.

11:07 At this point, we believe we have our guy.

11:09 But now, the FBI wanted to know,

11:12 what had Israel Keyes done with Samantha Koenig?

11:16 The race is on because we still don't have Samantha.

11:18 We have him, but we don't have Samantha.

11:21 So, if Samantha is alive, then we really need to find her quickly.

11:43 In March 2012, 2 weeks after Israel Keyes was arrested in Texas,

11:48 he was extradited to Anchorage, Alaska.

11:51 At the point, we didn't really know, you know,

11:54 was he the one who took and kidnapped Samantha Koenig or was

11:59 he someone who was just using a credit card that he found?

12:02 FBI agent Jolene Goeden says investigators initially

12:06 didn't know what to make of Keyes.

12:09 What was it like to look into the eyes of Israel Keyes?

12:12 I spent a lot of time with Israel Keyes.

12:15 You could be in a room with him and it

12:17 was like you were in the room with your neighbor.

12:19 I think I saw him at Walmart.

12:21 And then there were other times where the hair

12:23 on the back of your neck stands up a little bit.

12:27 Investigators scrambled to learn everything they

12:29 could about Israel Keyes, the man.

12:32 Did he have a criminal record?

12:34 I believe he had a DUI, but that was it.

12:37 No no crimes of violence in his history,

12:39 no sex offenses in his history, nothing like that.

12:41 He's a 34-year-old man from Alaska who has a construction business,

12:47 small kind of quiet life.

12:49 Even one of my colleagues of the US Attorney's Office used him as a handyman.

12:53 One of your colleagues hired him to do some work?

12:56 Sure.

12:56 This is someone you felt comfortable giving a key to your house

13:00 so he could go there when you weren't there to fix things.

13:03 An Anchorage resident since 2007, Keyes lived in this house with his girlfriend

13:09 and his 10-year-old daughter from a previous relationship.

13:13 Neighbors say he didn't stand out.

13:16 Nothing suspicious at all except for that he worked hard.

13:20 But investigators had suspicions and one very pressing question.

13:26 We started off with where is Samantha?

13:27 No one knew if Samantha Koenig was still alive.

13:31 Anchorage assistant US attorney Frank Russo

13:34 and his colleagues knew time was of the essence.

13:38 He would have been sitting right here.

13:39 So they confronted Keys about Samantha.

13:43 Once we heard what he had to say, it went from being a very happy day

13:47 as a prosecutor to one of the worst I've ever had.

13:50 We ended up hearing a confession.

13:52 Keys admitted he had killed Samantha.

13:55 So we wanted to find out why he did what he did.

13:58 But before he would say more Before the lawyers got to this.

14:02 Keys began what would become a pattern for giving information.

14:06 He wanted an Americano coffee from Starbucks,

14:08 he wanted a Snickers bar, and he wanted a particular cigar.

14:11 Ultimately, Keys lays out the entire story

14:14 of of how the abduction of Samantha occurred.

14:17 The video of that confession had never been made public before.

14:21 In it, Keys says he pointed a .22 caliber pistol at Samantha.

14:26 I remember asking him, "Well, you know,

14:28 why did you pick that coffee cart at that time?" And he just simply said,

14:33 "Well, it was open late." Meaning he chose her completely at random.

14:39 Keys said as they walked off into the night, Samantha broke free and ran.

14:44 He chased after her and tackled her.

14:47 He indicates that his plan is to hold her for ransom.

14:49 Suggesting to Samantha that that if she cooperates, he'll release her.

14:53 She'll be able to to go home.

14:55 It was all a lie.

14:57 Instead, Keys drove Samantha to his home,

15:00 chained her up in his shed, and sexually assaulted her.

15:05 Keys then strangled her to death.

15:08 Keys' family, the FBI later determined,

15:11 knew nothing about the horrors that had just taken place.

15:15 He was talking about the murder of this girl

15:19 like someone else would discuss what they had for lunch.

15:24 Within hours of murdering Samantha,

15:26 Israel Keyes left Anchorage for a Caribbean vacation with his family.

15:32 And where did he leave Samantha?

15:33 Where was she?

15:34 Where was her body?

15:34 Samantha was in the shed at his house.

15:37 Keyes didn't return until 2 weeks later.

15:41 It was then that he posted the ransom note

15:43 and texted Samantha's boyfriend knowing she was already dead.

15:49 Keyes told investigators he had driven some

15:52 35 miles north of Anchorage to Matanuska

15:55 Lake where over the course of three trips he disposed of Samantha's remains.

16:01 He had drilled a hole and went ice fishing in the lake and he had tied it up

16:08 with bailing wire and weights and he had placed

16:12 parts of her body down the lake as he fished.

16:15 I remember asking him, "Did you catch any fish?" And he said,

16:19 "Yeah, I caught fish." And I said, "Well,

16:20 what did you do with the fish?" And he said, "Well,

16:24 I took them home and ate them." And for me that that just turned my stomach.

16:29 It took the FBI's dive team 10 hours to recover Samantha's body.

16:35 I remember I was the one who told both Samantha's

16:41 mom and dad and that was that was a bad day.

16:46 Koenig family friend Michelle Tasker.

16:49 He has a daughter and you did that to somebody else's daughter.

16:53 I don't understand.

16:55 You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him After talking to Keyes,

16:58 investigators realized they had a depraved killer on their hands

17:03 and that Samantha was likely not Keyes' only victim.

17:07 I'm two different people basically.

17:10 How long have you been two different people?

17:13 Long time.

17:15 14 years.

17:17 And that tells you what?

17:18 That he had been a serial killer for 14 years.

17:22 Special Agent Katherine Nelson knew every aspect

17:26 of Keys' life needed to be examined.

17:28 Cleveland, Ohio.

17:30 So, she started a deep dive into his paper trail.

17:34 Cell phone records, financial records,

17:36 anything we could find out about his background,

17:38 his travels, anything that would just tell us a better story about him.

17:42 It was starting to look like Keys could have victims across the United States.

17:47 We know that Israel Keys traveled to places such as Washington,

17:51 California, Wyoming, Texas, Vermont.

17:55 I'll give you my whole story eventually.

17:57 And he teased his interrogators with details of other murders.

18:02 I'll tell you about everything or give you every single gory detail you want.

18:07 But before Keys would agree to do

18:09 that, he wanted something extraordinary in return.

18:14 I want an execution date.

18:16 For you?

18:17 Yes.

18:17 And he said, "I want a promise that I'll get the death penalty.

18:22 If you do that, then I'll tell you about all the people

18:24 I killed." What we said is the more murders you give us,

18:29 the more likely it is that they're going

18:31 to want to impose the death penalty on you.

18:33 But without a guarantee of death, Keys was reluctant to say anything more.

18:39 So, give me something to work with.

18:41 Hold a bunch of your cards back, but give me a card.

18:44 Finally, Keys folded.

18:47 All right, I'll give you two bodies and a name.

19:03 Is really doing it?

19:05 All right.

19:06 You want to get on my good You want something to eat?

19:08 No, I'm fine.

19:09 Candy bar or no?

19:11 They are odd moments to see.

19:13 Swear off those skinny boards?

19:15 Yes, it's in the fridge.

19:18 I don't think I'm going to need it.

19:20 Investigators casually bonding with their interview guest.

19:24 Let's get him a cigar and let him So we got you over here.

19:27 Awesome.

19:28 Wow, cigar for nothing.

19:30 In some ways to the outsider,

19:33 it looked like you guys were in a way befriending a serial killer.

19:37 Yeah.

19:38 Did you give me like an hour on the internet?

19:41 Sure.

19:43 But there was method to this madness, says Assistant U.S.

19:46 Attorney Frank Russo.

19:48 It was just the act that we had to put on when we went in that room.

19:51 It was just trying to kind of do anything we could to get information.

19:56 Israel Keyes voluntarily granted two dozen interviews to various

20:01 investigators in the 7 months after his arrest.

20:05 Is it true he could have walked out at any time?

20:10 Sure.

20:08 FBI Special Agent Jolene Gordon.

20:12 I think he wanted to tell the story.

20:13 He wanted to talk about what he did.

20:19 He enjoyed the rush.

20:20 He enjoyed the thrill of it.

20:24 That strategy paid off when Keyes gave up the names of two victims,

20:29 a married couple more than 4,000 miles from Anchorage, in Vermont.

20:34 He gave us the names of the people.

20:36 We wrote them down.

20:37 And what was the couple's name?

20:39 Bill and Lorraine Currier.

20:40 Do your intel guys immediately try to find out if there's a missing couple?

20:44 Absolutely.

20:45 you learn?

20:46 Right away that Bill and Lorraine are missing.

20:48 And have been missing for some time.

20:50 Correct.

20:51 Bill and Lorraine Currier are a couple that lived in Essex, Vermont.

20:55 Nothing stands out really about them.

20:56 They were just kind of living their life.

20:58 The Curriers vanished on a night in June 2011, leaving their family bewildered.

21:05 We loved them both with all our hearts.

21:08 We're devastated by their disappearance and in fear for their lives.

21:12 After interviewing neighbors, police drew this sketch of a possible suspect.

21:18 Police say this composite sketch of a man who may have been

21:21 seen driving the couple's dark green Saturn sedan is a big break.

21:25 But the case went cold for nearly a year until

21:29 Keys laid out the road map of what had happened.

21:32 He flew into Chicago and he drove east.

21:35 He intended on that trip to commit a homicide.

21:39 He didn't know who it would be yet.

21:41 On that trip, Keys stayed at this hotel in Essex, Vermont.

21:45 While there, he dug up a bucket similar

21:48 to this one that he had buried a few years prior.

21:53 So, this is just the standard orange Home Depot bucket.

21:57 For the first time, the FBI is showing

22:01 48 Hours These are several boxes of .22 ammunition.

22:05 The contents of what Keys like to call a kill cache.

22:09 So, he would preposition these caches and then when the urge came upon him,

22:15 if he happened to be in that state, he had his tools of destruction ready to go.

22:20 Correct.

22:20 Or he'd plan a trip to a particular state knowing he already had a cache there.

22:24 He didn't know who he was going to kill,

22:26 but he already knew that he had the items there that he needed.

22:29 We have the silencer for the .22.

22:31 We have a wood stock for a .22, a plastic stock for a .22,

22:36 uh a portion of a .22 rifle, and then we have the drum magazine the .22.

22:41 Had a number of .22 caliber bullets.

22:44 You ever seen anything like this in your career?

22:46 No.

22:48 The cache used in the Currier attack has never been found,

22:52 but Keys told the FBI where they could

22:54 find this, a weapon he had used in Vermont.

22:59 This is a silencer that he's actually constructed himself.

23:03 With his murderous tools in hand,

23:05 Keys went hunting for victims and found himself outside the Currier house.

23:12 I decided I was going to look for a house with a couple in it.

23:15 I was looking for a fairly easy way to get into the garage

23:19 and theirs was the first house I found that had all those things.

23:23 He just happens to take a walk

23:24 from his hotel into a neighborhood and this unsuspecting

23:28 couple just living their lives is about to have a monster at their door.

23:35 Yeah.

23:36 The monster didn't knock.

23:39 He's very quickly in the house.

23:40 He restrains Bill and Lorraine very quickly.

23:43 He just makes sure they know right away

23:45 who's in charge and immediately tie them up.

23:48 And then he moves them to their car and he drives

23:52 them to an abandoned farmhouse that he had scoped out earlier.

23:56 Keys attacks Lorraine first.

23:57 She's upstairs in the bedroom.

23:58 He had restrained uh Bill downstairs.

24:02 But the Curriers were not going down without a fight.

24:06 Bill's yelling for his wife.

24:08 Bill ultimately starts to break free from the restraints and Keys

24:11 has to go back downstairs in order to restrain him again.

24:14 And what happens down there?

24:15 There's a struggle that ensues.

24:17 So I knew I was going to have to knock him out or just kill him.

24:20 He saw the gun.

24:21 He started to say something and it just

24:23 pissed me off and I started pulling the trigger.

24:27 Do you think this silencer might have been used in the murder of Bill Currier?

24:32 I think it's very likely.

24:34 Keys then strangled Lorraine Currier and left

24:38 the couple in the basement of the abandoned farmhouse.

24:43 Did anyone ever find these bodies?

24:46 No.

24:46 A short time after this happened,

24:48 the house ended up being demolished and it was taken to the landfill.

24:51 We made numerous attempts at the landfill.

24:54 It was a I believe a 10 or 12 week search at the landfill.

24:59 The FBI was searching in an attempt to find them,

25:01 but we were not able to recover their bodies.

25:04 But as meticulous as Keys was in covering his tracks, he slipped up.

25:09 This is the one item in all the things that we

25:12 found that belonged to Keys that actually had his fingerprint on it.

25:15 There's a perfect right thumbprint.

25:19 Compare it to your keys.

25:20 Yeah, right.

25:21 No, there is.

25:22 I don't have the lab report.

25:24 Wow.

25:25 Yeah, I'm impressed.

25:27 Well, I'm disappointed in myself mostly,

25:29 but I'm glad What other clues had Keys left behind?

25:35 What other murders had he committed?

25:38 Investigators began focusing on his time in Washington state,

25:42 where Keys was raised,

25:44 a place where he would admit to killing at least four more people.

25:49 Were any of those victims shot?

25:52 Strangled.

25:54 Will you tell me the whole story eventually?

26:04 The first far back as I can remember that you know,

26:09 that's where I get a lot of the ideas.

26:12 Either fishing or out hunting.

26:15 See somebody in the woods.

26:18 To understand Israel Keys,

26:21 you have to go deep into the vast remote wilderness where he was raised.

26:25 The place where he lived off and on for more than 20 years, Washington state.

26:32 How many people in the state of Washington do you believe Israel Keys killed?

26:37 We believe he killed four victims total in Washington state.

26:41 FBI special agents Ted Halla and Colleen Sanders first questioned Keys in 2012.

26:48 They have spent eight years investigating his life and crimes in Washington,

26:54 searching for more victims.

26:56 This is like a horror movie, isn't it?

26:58 It's very much like a horror movie.

27:01 The opening scenes of Keys' life took place

27:04 in a secluded cabin outside the small town of Colville.

27:09 He grew up poor.

27:11 He grew up in a large family.

27:13 There were 10 children in all.

27:15 And they kind of lived apart from society.

27:20 John, where are we heading now?

27:22 So, we're heading north out of out of Colville.

27:25 We're going to go see if we can find where Israel Keyes grew up.

27:30 Just right up here on the right.

27:32 John Smith and his wife Desiree knew Israel Keyes when he was a teenager.

27:37 Desiree hasn't been in this area since she was 15.

27:42 Yes, this could be it.

27:45 Yeah, I remember it being long and steep

27:48 and kind of headed up the mountain side.

27:50 And yet, it was completely impassable through most of the winter.

27:54 It was built to be completely off the grid,

27:58 to be completely isolated from society.

28:01 No radio, no television, no electricity, nothing.

28:06 Nothing.

28:05 The Keys family attended a church that preached Christian Identity Theology,

28:10 a philosophy John and Desiree were also raised on, but have since disavowed.

28:16 Christian Identity Theology is very white supremacist.

28:20 Um, they come from the perspective that the other races are subhuman.

28:26 So, with Israel Keyes, specifically,

28:29 he could dehumanize anybody if they rejected his worldview.

28:34 Schooled at home, cut off from the outside world, Keyes was socially awkward.

28:39 Very quiet.

28:41 Uh, very loner-ish, uh, standoff-ish.

28:45 It's It's hard to explain how he made me feel, but I felt unsafe being near him.

28:50 So, one specific conversation about killing a deer,

28:54 um he said that the initial shot didn't kill it,

28:56 and so when he arrived, he started to gut the thing while it was alive.

29:00 This is interrogation audio of Keys describing himself.

29:04 I've known since I was 14 that there were things that that I thought were

29:09 normal and that were okay that nobody else seems to think are normal and okay.

29:14 Yes.

29:15 But just when Keys committed his first murder is still an open question.

29:20 Whose picture are you holding?

29:22 My daughter, Julie Marie Harris.

29:25 She was 12 years old and disappeared on March 3rd, 1996.

29:30 Sherry Odegard says her daughter Julie,

29:33 a Special Olympics athlete with prosthetic feet,

29:37 vanished from Colville while waiting for a ride to church.

29:40 Then I went up and down every street in this town and screamed her name.

29:45 And there was no trace.

29:46 There was no trace.

29:48 Israel Keys, then 18 years old, lived in the area at the time.

29:54 Julie's prosthetic feet were discovered at the mouth of the Colville River.

29:59 The next year, her skeletal remains were found.

30:03 We asked Israel Keys about Julie Harris and her death,

30:07 and he said he was aware of it, but that he was not involved in it.

30:11 I remember the name.

30:12 I don't remember the details of the story.

30:14 Keys told investigators the birth of his daughter

30:17 convinced him to never target children.

30:21 Something kind of changed in the way I thought,

30:24 and I didn't want to do anything that would mess with kids or whatever.

30:32 But Keys' daughter was born after Julie Harris was murdered.

30:36 48 Hours tracked down friends of Julie

30:39 who had never spoken with law enforcement.

30:42 One of those friends told us she remembers Keys

30:45 talking to Julie at the pool where she often swam.

30:49 And that Julie ended up giving him her address and phone number.

30:55 Have you heard this?

30:58 No.

30:57 I did not know that.

30:59 Does that sound tantalizing as a possible clue?

31:04 Like any other lead that we have, we would want to investigate it fully.

31:08 We would certainly be be interested in talking with her.

31:11 People have wondered if your daughter was the very first victim of Israel Keyes.

31:16 And I'm wondering that, too.

31:18 Despite the intrigue surrounding Julie Harris,

31:21 Keys claims his first attempted murder came in 1997 or 1998

31:28 when he abducted and sexually assaulted a young woman near Bend, Oregon.

31:33 It was weird.

31:34 I mean, she was scared, but also just talking.

31:36 It's like about random stuff.

31:38 I don't know.

31:38 It was weird.

31:40 I I was just convinced that I had screwed up that time in Oregon because,

31:44 you know, I I I let her go.

31:47 And he indicated he never let another go after that.

31:51 Sometime after that assault, Keys joined the US Army.

31:56 Our investigation led us to believe that he

31:58 was a model soldier and excelled in the Army.

32:00 Keys told investigators he waited until he completed a three-year

32:05 stint in the Army before he stalked his next victim.

32:10 And you had told us it wasn't long when

32:11 you got out of the military that you killed

32:14 somebody and it was that sort of feeling that you

32:17 needed to do something that was hard to resist.

32:21 You were in Neah Bay at the point in time?

32:24 Neah Bay, at the farthest northwestern tip of Washington,

32:28 is best known as home to the Makah tribe, legendary whale hunters.

32:35 Keys moved here after marrying a tribe member he met online.

32:39 They started a family.

32:41 He lived there.

32:42 He rented the house out.

32:44 Eric Johnson worked with Keys at the Parks and Recreation Department.

32:48 This is a shop here, in the blue part.

32:50 The blue part, that was his shop.

32:52 That's where he worked.

32:53 Yeah.

32:53 There are reminders of Keys' skilled carpentry all around town,

32:58 including this structure.

33:01 He was a great family guy, a smart guy, gifted carpenter, you know, well-spoken.

33:07 An outstanding member of the community.

33:09 member of the community, yeah.

33:11 I would do something, and then I would go back like business as usual,

33:18 and go out with friends,

33:19 go out to bars, you know, for all the years they've known me,

33:22 they actually don't know me at all, really.

33:29 About 60 miles southeast of Neah Bay is another spectacular location,

33:35 one of the deepest lakes in the United States,

33:37 which investigators suspect is also a watery grave.

33:42 You guys know about Lake Crescent in Washington here.

33:46 He revealed to us that one of the Washington State victims

33:49 was actually uh their body was sunk in this particular lake.

33:53 I think that lake is 5 to 700 ft deep.

33:57 Here's a picture of Israel Keys' boat.

33:59 Sometime in 2005 or 2006, Keys had a body in this boat.

34:06 Any idea who this person may be?

34:08 Any idea how this person was killed?

34:11 No.

34:12 How long does a body last in a freshwater lake?

34:15 In the last months of 2012,

34:18 Special Agents Halla and Sanders were hopeful that Keys would give

34:22 them more information on who is at the bottom of this lake.

34:27 But the killer had another plan.

34:29 I can't be satisfied sitting in prison for all my life.

34:32 I'd rather go out while I still have some sanity, good memories.

34:59 And you know you think I'm going to feel like giving you any more information?

35:03 After 7 months of interrogations,

35:05 7 months of teasing investigators with bits and pieces of his violent past,

35:11 Israel Keyes decided to take one more life, his own.

35:17 Serial killer Israel Keyes was found dead at the Anchorage Correctional Complex.

35:23 We received a call early in the morning that on December 1st,

35:26 2012, Israel Keyes had committed suicide in his jail cell.

35:30 He used a disposable razor to slit his wrist,

35:33 and Keyes attempted to strangle himself with bedding.

35:37 And what was your reaction to that?

35:39 My reaction was a lot of these secrets were going to die with him now.

35:45 For Samantha Koenig's loved ones, the news hit like a gut punch.

35:50 He should have been executed.

35:52 Now, he killed himself.

35:54 That's great.

35:54 It's not what we wanted.

35:55 We wanted him to stand trial.

35:57 We wanted him to answer for what he did.

36:00 But, the world's better off he's gone.

36:05 Inside Keyes' cell, jailers discovered a bizarre,

36:08 blood-soaked suicide note with passages like, "Crushed like a bug,

36:14 you still die." We had hoped that that note

36:17 was going to be clues and tips for us on and that he was finally going to give

36:20 us all of the information on the homicides, and it really wasn't.

36:23 It was kind of a rant.

36:26 But, the end of Keyes was by no means the end of this case.

36:30 A few months before his suicide, investigators found those macabre drawings.

36:37 He drew a series of 11 skulls.

36:43 And these were found underneath his bed in his jail cell.

36:48 Drawn in Israel Keys' own blood.

36:52 You have 11 skulls.

36:54 What does this mean?

36:56 I think this is the entirety of of his crimes.

36:58 And then it indicates that there are seven victims we don't have identified.

37:03 Prior to his death, Keys had pointed the FBI to another victim.

37:09 There's one in New York.

37:11 He refused to provide that victim's name,

37:13 but investigators believe it happened when Keys took a road

37:17 trip through New York state in the spring of 2009.

37:22 So they combed through missing persons reports and Keys' computer.

37:28 Is this the person you buried in New York?

37:30 No.

37:31 Her name was on your computer.

37:33 Which computer?

37:34 Mine?

37:35 When they confronted him with photos, one in particular rattled him.

37:40 It was a photo of a woman named Deborah Feldman.

37:44 Given the way he looked at it and he started shaking a little bit,

37:47 um I would say she is definitely one of his victims.

37:52 Deborah Feldman is a a woman who went missing from New Jersey.

37:56 It was in 2009.

37:57 Her body has never been recovered.

37:59 We're relatively confident about Deborah Feldman.

38:02 However, we do not have any forensic evidence to to make that connection.

38:06 According to the FBI, that would make Deborah Feldman Keys' fourth known victim,

38:12 along with Samantha Koenig and Bill and Lorraine Currier.

38:16 Agents are now determined to identify the remaining seven.

38:21 And there are clues that point to at least two other states.

38:25 Tell me about Wyoming.

38:27 What was there for him?

38:30 The Green River in Wyoming is where Keys had buried his cache near.

38:35 Is there a sense that there may be a body somewhere near that river?

38:39 We have a strong suspicion that Keys may have a victim located in that area.

38:45 In the late 2000s, Israel Keys also spent time in California's wine country,

38:51 including visiting the posh Sonoma town of Healdsburg in May of 2007.

38:58 Keys has often talked to investigators about using

39:03 boats and also kayaks in the disposal of bodies.

39:08 We know that he rented a single-person kayak

39:11 in Healdsburg near a campground during that time in 2007.

39:15 But Keys' road trips weren't limited to the US.

39:19 In 2007, he drove along the Alcan Highway

39:22 by himself for about a week of that year.

39:24 The Alcan Highway goes through Canada up to Alaska.

39:27 Yes, correct.

39:29 We know that Keys traveled to Canada quite extensively

39:33 and specifically said that he would go to Montreal.

39:36 When he was asked about whether he killed anyone in Canada, what did he say?

39:40 He said Canadians don't count.

39:43 It's been several years since Israel Keys killed himself.

39:48 The FBI hopes investigators across the country will take

39:52 a second look at suspicious deaths in their area.

39:56 They're also hoping the public can help.

39:59 If anyone has any information on Israel Keys and his travels,

40:05 or if they have a family member that they

40:07 think may have been potentially a victim of Israel Keys,

40:10 that they come forward with the FBI with that information.

40:13 That includes the Lake Crescent area of Washington state,

40:17 where Keys told investigators he had dumped a body.

40:21 We absolutely want people to come forward who think

40:23 they may have seen something connected to Israel Keys, especially on this lake.

40:29 And what about those kill caches buried throughout the country?

40:33 If anyone out there comes across one of these, what should they do?

40:39 First, for people not to not to touch too much and not to contaminate it too

40:43 much and definitely contact local law enforcement

40:46 in their community who can then reach out to us.

40:49 For the FBI, their focus is clear.

40:53 For me, the important thing is Samantha and Bill and Lorraine

40:57 and Debra and all the victims that we don't have identified.

41:01 That's what this case is about.

41:02 And their commitment unwavering.

41:05 Do you have an optimistic streak that says

41:08 we can find answers to the other seven cases?

41:13 I do.

41:14 I absolutely do.

41:15 And it won't be easy by any means.

41:18 And it may take a long time, but I'll never give up trying.

42:13 July 1997 There's something inherently sexy in a Versace design.

42:41 There is a flamboyance that is contained and controlled.

42:50 The clothes we wear send a message about how the world perceives us.

42:53 It has a real wow factor.

42:56 I'm Tim Gunn and I am the mentor on Project Runway.

43:02 The Versace customer was not faint of heart.

43:06 One of the most iconic Versace pieces was

43:09 the gown that he made for Elizabeth Hurley.

43:11 Two stars were born with that dress.

43:13 Princess Diana wanted a a whole new look for the world.

43:18 And Courtney loved it also.

43:20 I mean, he took her from trashy to sophisticated.

43:23 Versace helped put Miami on the international map.

43:28 My name is Tara Solomon and I

43:31 am the Miami Herald's former nightlife correspondent.

43:35 Versace brought his entire world of fabulosity.

43:41 And while he may have had homes all around the world,

43:45 he came to Miami Beach to relax.

43:50 Do you remember where you were when you heard that Versace had been murdered?

43:54 Oh, I remember profoundly.

43:56 I opened up my computer and it flashed

43:59 before me that Gianni Versace had been murdered.

44:01 I was stunned.

44:04 When Versace was killed there was pure pandemonium.

44:10 On that particular morning, Gianni Versace decided to go over to News Cafe,

44:16 and it was on his return home,

44:19 approaching the door, he was he was shot and killed.

44:23 And all of a sudden we hear bang bang, two shots.

44:26 1116 Ocean Yes, Mr.

44:28 Versace Police immediately, please.

44:31 Do you remember where roughly he was?

44:33 He was right right here.

44:34 And there was obviously blood.

44:36 But yes, plenty of blood.

44:40 And if you mention Gianni Versace, um people still don't remember those names

44:45 of the first few people that were killed.

44:49 There was uh the homicide of Jeff Trail and David Madson.

44:55 There was the murder of Lee Miglin.

44:59 Then there was the murder of William Reese.

45:04 We have what we typically call a spree killer.

45:10 This wasn't a haphazard crime.

45:12 Mr.

45:13 Versace was targeted.

45:43 World-famous fashion designer Gianni Versace fatally shot

45:47 gunned down outside his mansion in Miami Beach, Florida.

45:50 turned into a gruesome crime scene early this morning.

45:57 Five days before he was murdered,

45:59 Gianni Versace and his partner Antonio D'Amico had arrived at Casa Casuarina,

46:05 their lavish Miami Beach retreat.

46:08 They'd been in Paris and New York.

46:11 Versace could not have known it, but his killer was already in town.

46:21 The 911 call came in about 8:45 the morning of July 15th, 1997,

46:27 just as Carlos Noriega,

46:29 then a lieutenant with the Miami Beach Police Department, was heading to work.

46:37 I drove over to the scene and encountered

46:40 an area just flooded with police officers.

46:44 There was uh evidence at the front steps.

46:47 There was blood.

46:48 There was uh clothing.

46:53 Gianni Versace was an icon.

46:55 You have a world-renowned fashion designer,

46:57 celebrity, who was tragically killed.

47:00 This is all hands-on deck.

47:02 Yeah, you don't want to screw this case up.

47:03 Exactly.

47:06 It all happened in broad daylight.

47:09 Versace had gone out alone to a local cafe to buy magazines,

47:14 and then he walked home.

47:18 As he was putting the key in the door lock, he was shot twice, once in the face,

47:24 point-blank range, and the other one was behind the left ear in the neck,

47:28 and that was a through-and-through shot.

47:30 Noriega believes the gunman approached Versace from behind or from the side.

47:37 I believe he was shadowing him.

47:40 It was a very strategically timed strategically

47:42 placed attack uh to to kill Gianni Versace.

47:46 The question was, who would want to kill him?

47:50 One of the first motives that we felt was a possibility

47:53 was that it was a contract hit organized crime mafia,

47:57 if you will, uh because there was a dead bird found next to the body.

48:01 Is that a sign?

48:03 That to us that's a sign of a mafia hit.

48:05 But the bird, it turned out, was in the wrong place at the wrong time,

48:10 hit by a fragment from a bullet that killed Versace.

48:14 And that left police with not much to go on.

48:19 But not for long.

48:21 They got a break from Lazaro Quintana, who was a friend of Versace's.

48:26 He used to call me Lazaretta.

48:28 Lazaro was at the mansion that morning.

48:30 He was in the dining room with Antonio when he heard the shots.

48:36 And Antonio got up and he went to the window

48:39 that faces the gate to enter the mansion.

48:42 And he yelled out, "No!

48:44 No!" And I ran out.

48:47 You came here?

48:48 I came here.

48:49 Johnny was right here.

48:50 Versace was already dead on the front steps.

48:54 And then Antonio came and he's he's crying and he was destroyed.

49:00 He was destroyed.

49:02 And he's he's who did this?

49:04 Who did this?

49:05 And there was a there was a lady standing here and she's pointing,

49:08 but she couldn't speak.

49:10 Antonio said, "Go get him." So I went after him.

49:14 Lazaro followed the gunman.

49:17 We're talking this pace.

49:18 Yeah.

49:18 Real fast.

49:19 I yelled, "You bastard!

49:21 Why did you do this?

49:22 Why did you do this?" He makes a left turn.

49:25 As he makes the left turn, yes, he makes the left turn and we're still going.

49:28 We're still going all the way through.

49:29 He turns over to the right and car's coming, so I couldn't get across.

49:34 Car stops.

49:35 Uh-huh.

49:36 And they yell, "He's got a gun!" He stops right across here Yeah.

49:40 at the alley and that's when he's pointing the gun at me.

49:43 Show me how he pointed the gun at you.

49:44 If I'm you So he didn't even look at you.

49:48 No, never looked at You never saw his face.

49:50 I saw face.

49:50 But you saw his clothes.

49:52 Yes.

49:54 The shooter cut through this alley while Lazaro raced around the corner.

49:58 He remembered seeing a police officer there earlier.

50:01 I reached him and I said to him, "Mr.

50:03 Versace has just been shot." Were you calm?

50:06 Were you or were you No.

50:07 No?

50:08 No.

50:08 A friend of mine was just shot.

50:10 No, was I calm?

50:11 I was nervous.

50:12 I was upset.

50:15 You came down this street with the police officer.

50:17 I did.

50:17 Luckily, he came upon some men in front of this building

50:21 and asked them if they saw a man running.

50:24 And they pointed.

50:25 They pointed to the garage.

50:27 he went in here.

50:27 He went in here.

50:28 So, that's when I tell the officer, I said, "He's in there.

50:30 Go get him.

50:31 Go get him." And then we heard over the radio the commotion and and okay,

50:36 now there is a manhunt.

50:39 When police searched the 13th Street garage, they discovered a pile of clothes.

50:45 A gray t-shirt and black shorts, just what Lazaro had seen the shooter wearing.

50:51 He had obviously changed clothes.

50:54 When he walked out of this garage just shortly after the murder,

50:58 nobody knew who the shooter was.

51:00 Nobody knew what he looked like.

51:01 Nobody knew what he was wearing.

51:03 He was able to just vanish.

51:06 But he left a mountain of evidence for investigators.

51:09 Next to that pile of clothes was a truck

51:12 that had been reported stolen in New Jersey.

51:15 And inside the truck were documents with a name.

51:20 I mean, he left his identification in the truck?

51:22 That's correct.

51:23 He had his passport um uh ID A whole lot of items that connected him right away.

51:30 By 12:00 noon, some 3 hours after Gianni Versace was murdered,

51:34 police had a suspect.

51:38 His name, Andrew Cunanan.

51:42 And as it turned out,

51:43 the Miami Beach Police Department was not the only one looking for him.

52:08 In Milan, Italy today, those who knew and admired Gianni Versace

52:13 said goodbye to the murdered fashion designer.

52:18 One week after Gianni Versace was murdered,

52:21 celebrities and friends from around the world

52:24 gathered inside this Gothic cathedral in Milan, Italy for his funeral.

52:30 I saw Versace's funeral on television and I cried.

52:35 It was It was hard.

52:36 It was tough.

52:38 Princess Diana was there at the funeral, Sting, Trudie, Elton.

52:48 In Miami, not far from where he was murdered,

52:51 there was a small, intimate service to celebrate the designer's life.

53:01 The flowers left on the steps of Versace's opulent

53:05 mansion served as one somber reminder of what had happened.

53:11 And we consider Andrew Cunanan to be armed and to be extremely dangerous.

53:16 The police activity was another.

53:20 They were tracking every lead they could,

53:23 hunting for Gianni Versace's suspected killer, 27-year-old Andrew Cunanan.

53:29 You had a very good suspect.

53:31 Michael Band was the prosecutor assigned to this case.

53:35 And our first step was to go out into the community with pictures

53:39 of Cunanan and start beating the bushes and looking for this guy.

53:45 Looking to figure out is this the guy?

53:50 Authorities were starting to learn all about Andrew Cunanan.

53:55 Three months before Versace's murder,

53:57 Cunanan was living in San Diego and his life was, to say the least, complicated.

54:05 I thought he'd be a very successful businessman or maybe in, you know,

54:09 the fashion industry or something star quality like Back in the '80s,

54:14 Robert Errens remembers his seventh-grade classmate Andrew Cunanan

54:19 as a good-looking kid with a keen fashion sense.

54:23 I remember Andrew would put dimes in his penny loafers.

54:26 There was always that little extra something that made

54:28 him sort of stand out and get noticed.

54:31 Andrew sort of had this air about him that I

54:34 thought was kind of beyond his years at that time.

54:38 According to Errens, Andrew Cunanan grew up in a working-class San Diego

54:43 suburb and did not share much about his home life.

54:47 I had no idea who his mom was, his dad, whether he had brothers or sisters.

54:53 I had no idea he was half Filipino.

54:56 Andrew's father, Modesto, was a former Navy man turned stockbroker.

55:01 He and Andrew's mother, Mary Ann, raised four children together.

55:07 But Andrew stood out.

55:09 He had a genius IQ.

55:12 So, he enrolled in the pricey and prestigious Bishop's

55:15 School in the tony beach enclave of La Jolla.

55:20 When I heard that he was going to La Jolla and transferring to Bishop's,

55:23 I thought, well, you've got to have money.

55:25 That's a private school.

55:28 The class of 1987 mentioned Andrew Cunanan as most likely to be remembered.

55:36 He chose a quote from King Louis the 15th to accompany his senior photo.

55:41 Apres moi, le deluge.

55:44 After me, the deluge.

55:48 Turns out those words could have been an omen.

55:50 A year after Andrew's high school graduation,

55:53 his father was facing embezzlement charges.

55:57 He fled the country leaving his family abandoned and broke.

56:05 He was openly gay in high school and very flamboyant and When

56:09 48 Hours first spoke to Nicole Murray Ramirez back in 1997,

56:14 he knew Andrew Cunanan.

56:16 Today, he still remembers Cunanan as the young man who didn't have

56:20 a job but was a big spender and an even bigger talker.

56:25 Andrew Cunanan was basically known in the gay

56:29 community's nightlife and the bar scene.

56:34 He would walk in with the entourage and always pay for the bill.

56:37 He wanted the illusion that it was his money.

56:40 He tried to brag that he came

56:41 from a Filipino family and he knew the Imelda Marcos.

56:46 Michael Williams owned a local restaurant and knew Andrew Cunanan.

56:51 He also knew where Cunanan really got all that money.

56:56 He had a very wealthy older partner who really provided for him.

57:01 How much older?

57:04 I would say probably by 40 years.

57:06 What did you make of that relationship?

57:09 I stopped trying to figure that out.

57:11 I was like, you know, here's this young,

57:13 attractive, good-looking guy with this extremely older man.

57:20 I mean, I can't imagine what the connection was there.

57:26 I would imagine that you had an idea what the connection was there.

57:31 I did, you know.

57:32 Michael Williams was introduced to Andrew through their mutual friend,

57:36 a young ensign named Jeff Trail.

57:40 Andrew was very pretentious, loud, you know,

57:44 always had to be the center of the the party.

57:49 Jeff was opposite of that.

57:51 Jeff was pretty conservative and and quiet, always helping people.

57:58 Trail was an Annapolis graduate and a Gulf War veteran living in San Diego.

58:05 He was also gay, as out as was possible.

58:09 Tonight on 48 Hours, the battle over homosexuals in the military.

58:14 In 1993, when he appeared in silhouette for a 48 Hours interview,

58:19 he talked to us about issues affecting gay people in the military.

58:24 We're not here to be feared.

58:25 We just want to do our jobs.

58:27 That's all we're asking for.

58:29 While Trail and Cunanan were friends,

58:32 to the best of anybody's knowledge, that is all they were.

58:36 Jeff was always had the contagious personality

58:40 that where you just wanted to be around him.

58:41 And I think that, you know, in a way, Andrew wanted that in his life.

58:47 So, surrounding himself around Jeff, he always seemed very happy and and up.

58:52 You did not like Andrew.

58:54 No.

58:57 For reasons known only to Cunanan, he sometimes used the name Andrew De Silva.

59:02 That's how Michael Williams knew him,

59:04 and he would soon learn a lot more about Andrew.

59:09 Who he was and what he would do would change the life

59:13 of Michael Williams and end the lives of five innocent victims.

59:27 Tracing Andrew Cunanan's blood-soaked path to Gianni Versace's front door

59:34 means following a series of unexplainable

59:37 events punctuated with unfathomable viciousness.

59:43 None of the dots are easily connected except in the mind of the murderer.

59:51 The road begins with Jeff Trail.

59:54 He just had that charisma about him.

59:58 It was Trail who befriended Andrew Cunanan,

1:00:01 and Michael Williams believes his friend

1:00:03 knew Cunanan had lived a dangerous life.

1:00:07 Andrew had a past of dealing drugs.

1:00:10 He had a past of prostitution.

1:00:14 And I really think that Jeff was trying to pull him out of that.

1:00:19 Williams says Jeff Trail had left the Navy

1:00:21 and was training to join the California Highway Patrol.

1:00:26 And then, suddenly and with no explanation,

1:00:29 in the fall of 1996, Trail moved to Minneapolis.

1:00:35 The day that he got in the car to leave, I said,

1:00:38 "Please be safe." And he reached under

1:00:40 the seat and he he pulled out his handgun.

1:00:45 And he said, "I'm going to be safe.

1:00:46 I've got this." Around that same time,

1:00:51 Jeff Trail's friend Andrew Cunanan was struggling,

1:00:55 according to Nicole Murray Ramirez.

1:00:57 He was not good-looking anymore.

1:00:59 He had to have looked in the mirror and saw what I saw,

1:01:02 which was a a six going down to a four.

1:01:06 What was left for his life?

1:01:08 Cunanan had gained weight and given

1:01:11 away much of his expensive designer wardrobe.

1:01:14 He had dabbled into drugs.

1:01:16 He was now an older young man with average looks.

1:01:22 On top of that, his older, wealthy partner broke up with him.

1:01:27 Andrew one day woke up after his older boyfriend broke up the relationship.

1:01:35 And what's next?

1:01:37 How is he going to live?

1:01:40 He lost the money, the mansion, and all that went with it.

1:01:44 He lived off other people.

1:01:45 He also was someone who was revengeful.

1:01:49 Former FBI profiler Mary Ellen O'Toole.

1:01:52 This is not someone that you break up with easily

1:01:55 because when you're grandiose and you're the center of the world,

1:02:00 people don't break up with you.

1:02:03 And then, for reasons Cunanan never fully explained,

1:02:07 on Friday, April 25th, 1997, he went to Minneapolis.

1:02:12 He flew from San Diego on a one-way ticket.

1:02:16 Do you think that he went up to Minneapolis with murder on his mind?

1:02:22 Yes, I think that he did.

1:02:26 Cunanan knew people in Minneapolis.

1:02:28 Jeff Trail was there,

1:02:30 and Michael Williams thinks something happened between the two of them.

1:02:36 I called to check on Jeff, and he was just really depressed.

1:02:40 It alarmed me.

1:02:42 We'd never had a conversation like that.

1:02:51 I uh I asked him, "Have you spoken to Andrew?" And he said uh "No,

1:03:01 and I'll never speak to him again." That's odd.

1:03:08 Cunanan knew somebody else in Minneapolis,

1:03:10 a 33-year-old architect named David Madson.

1:03:14 Cunanan and Madson had had a relationship.

1:03:17 He loved to laugh.

1:03:20 I'm just getting a little lunch, okay?

1:03:21 And he always had big energy.

1:03:25 Julie Hovland was David Madsen's friend and coworker.

1:03:29 He like problem-solving.

1:03:31 We talked about world issues.

1:03:34 He was a down-to-earth person.

1:03:38 Did David ever mention Andrew Cunanan?

1:03:41 Um yes, he did.

1:03:42 I think he had a fling with Andrew.

1:03:46 Um I don't think it was anything serious cuz there

1:03:49 were other people in his life that he cared about more.

1:03:52 He didn't care about Andrew um that much, really.

1:03:57 But according to Cunanan's friends,

1:03:59 Andrew believed David was the love of his life.

1:04:05 Julie Hovland didn't talk to David Madsen over the weekend.

1:04:08 On Monday, she was surprised when he didn't show up at work.

1:04:13 And by Tuesday, everyone was worried.

1:04:16 I called him.

1:04:17 It went to voice messaging and um a couple

1:04:21 of my coworkers went to his house over lunch hour on Tuesday.

1:04:27 Um heard his dog barking in the apartment.

1:04:32 She didn't know it, but Cunanan's killing spree had already started.

1:04:38 It was noticeable as soon as you opened the door and walk in.

1:04:42 Nobody made any effort to try and conceal it or hide it.

1:04:46 When retired Minneapolis homicide detective

1:04:49 Dale Barsness arrived at Madsen's apartment, what he saw was gruesome.

1:04:54 There was a bloody body wrapped in a rug.

1:04:58 I thought he was dead that day.

1:05:03 I pretty much cried the whole night.

1:05:08 And then later, we found out that um it wasn't David's body in the the carpet.

1:05:15 How did you feel when you heard that?

1:05:18 Um shocked, but then oh, what happened?

1:05:24 The body in David Madson's apartment was Jeff Trail.

1:05:30 He had been beaten to death with a hammer, and not far from the body,

1:05:34 police found a duffel bag with a name on it, Andrew Cunanan.

1:05:40 This is the travel bag that we believe

1:05:42 Andrew Cunanan brought to Minneapolis on April 25th.

1:05:47 But where was Andrew Cunanan, and where was David Madson?

1:05:52 The trail stayed cold for just 4 days, and then on Saturday morning,

1:05:57 two fishermen found the body of a young man on the shores of East Rush Lake,

1:06:03 about an hour north of Minneapolis.

1:06:05 It was David Madson.

1:06:07 He'd been shot in the head.

1:06:11 We learned that David died pretty soon after Jeff Trail.

1:06:18 Oh my gosh, you know,

1:06:19 to be in the situation that David's in with this crazy person,

1:06:25 you know, and how scary for him.

1:06:28 I'm sure he tried to calm Andrew down, you know,

1:06:32 I'm I mean I'm sure there was survival mode

1:06:35 going on, like how do you diffuse the situation?

1:06:40 But he obviously failed at that, um and he lost his life because of that.

1:06:49 Ballistics tests showed the bullets used to kill

1:06:51 Madson came from a .40 caliber gun,

1:06:54 like the one Jeff Trail had taken to Minneapolis.

1:06:58 Police believe Cunanan took that gun.

1:07:01 Presumably, when you were able to link Madson's death to Trail's death,

1:07:07 that changed the whole investigation.

1:07:09 And now we're down to where's Andrew?

1:07:12 There were tire tracks near Madson's body and his car,

1:07:15 a red Jeep, was missing, but it would not stay missing for long.

1:07:21 72-year-old Lee Miglin was found tortured and stabbed to death

1:07:24 in the garage of his mansion on Chicago's Gold Coast.

1:07:30 On the morning of May 3rd, 1997,

1:07:33 Steven and Barbara Bayer found the body of their neighbor, Lee Miglin.

1:07:38 He was a wealthy real estate developer.

1:07:41 I can still picture it today.

1:07:43 I could see the points of his shoes and I said,

1:07:46 "Lee is right there." I mean, it was absolutely um chilling.

1:07:54 Inside Lee Miglin's townhouse, there was some money and other things missing

1:07:59 and there was evidence the killer had stayed a while.

1:08:02 Police photos show he had shaved and taken a bath.

1:08:07 Debris in the kitchen sink, uh melted ice cream coming out of their containers,

1:08:12 then in uh Lee's library,

1:08:15 uh finding this uh large ham uh sliced sitting on his desk.

1:08:20 That was plenty to recognize that uh something very, very bad had gone on.

1:08:27 Around the corner from the murder scene,

1:08:29 police would discover David Madson's red Jeep,

1:08:32 but now Lee Miglin's green Lexus was missing.

1:08:36 To this day, police do not know what, if any connection,

1:08:40 Cunanan had to Miglin, but they feared Cunanan would strike again.

1:09:02 I do know it's not a random act of violence.

1:09:04 A nationwide manhunt is still underway for Cunanan.

1:09:07 After Andrew Cunanan murdered Jeff Trail, David Madson, and Lee Miglin,

1:09:14 the gay community was terrified, especially in San Diego.

1:09:19 I think everybody was in a state of shock.

1:09:22 I think some people were in state of fear.

1:09:26 People didn't answer their doors.

1:09:28 People that knew him the most stayed other places.

1:09:36 Michael Williams relocated to Scottsdale, Arizona.

1:09:40 Everybody was on very high alert.

1:09:42 Cuz you didn't know where he's going to strike again.

1:09:44 Yeah.

1:09:46 Just 6 days after he killed Miglin,

1:09:49 while Cunanan was on the run in Miglin's green Lexus,

1:09:53 police believe he realized the FBI was tracking the car phone's signal,

1:09:59 and he needed a new vehicle.

1:10:03 He's believed to have struck here in Pennsville Friday afternoon

1:10:06 at the remote Finn's Point Cemetery at Fort Mott Park.

1:10:09 FBI's going to work at concurrently with the New Jersey State Police.

1:10:13 The Lexus was found at this cemetery in southern New Jersey.

1:10:17 Inside the office lay victim number four.

1:10:21 He was 45-year-old William Reese.

1:10:25 He'd been shot in the head, and his red pickup was gone.

1:10:30 Yeah, he All he was was a caretaker of a cemetery.

1:10:34 Minneapolis detective Dale Barsness says William

1:10:37 Reese was killed simply for his truck.

1:10:41 No, he just was a very honorable man.

1:10:43 In the wrong place.

1:10:45 Absolutely.

1:10:45 At the wrong time.

1:10:46 And alone.

1:10:50 You're ensconced somewhere in Scottsdale.

1:10:53 He's last heard of in New Jersey.

1:10:56 Can you relax?

1:10:57 No.

1:11:00 Until he's caught, you don't relax.

1:11:03 As Gianni Versace was in Europe working on what would be his final collection,

1:11:08 Andrew Cunanan was the focus of a nationwide manhunt.

1:11:12 He was featured on America's Most Wanted.

1:11:15 Police say Cunanan may be wearing glasses.

1:11:18 And earned a spot on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list.

1:11:23 You think he enjoyed the the attention that he got?

1:11:26 Oh, absolutely do.

1:11:27 Former FBI profiler Mary Ellen O'Toole.

1:11:31 He basically held the United States hostage

1:11:33 because we were looking for him everywhere.

1:11:35 We didn't know where he was.

1:11:37 O'Toole says having murdered four men in three states over 12 days,

1:11:43 Cunanan was now considered a spree killer.

1:11:47 A spree killer continues and continues and continues

1:11:51 and does not go back into their normal life.

1:11:53 Life as they know it, it's done.

1:11:57 So, O'Toole believes Cunanan knew he had nothing to lose.

1:12:02 There's no way to undo what he's done now.

1:12:04 Absolutely no way.

1:12:05 So, he's really boxed himself into a corner.

1:12:08 From a behavioral standpoint, that makes him more dangerous.

1:12:12 But then, for 2 months, there was no sign of Cunanan.

1:12:17 Until July 15th, 1997, when he struck again.

1:12:23 This time was different because this time his victim was Gianni Versace.

1:12:34 When you heard that he had done it again, do you remember how you felt?

1:12:39 Every time there was another killing,

1:12:42 it was almost like you're being stabbed, you know?

1:12:45 It's that rush of pain.

1:12:49 And you're just automatically, oh my god, why can't they catch him?

1:12:54 There's no question that he knew that we were hot on this trail.

1:12:57 Carlos Noriega remembers that within hours hundreds

1:13:00 of police officers piled onto Miami Beach.

1:13:04 We all but locked down the causeways and the ways in and out of the city,

1:13:09 and I believe that created that bottleneck where

1:13:11 he felt uncomfortable trying to leave the city.

1:13:15 Crime Stoppers With all the attention on this case,

1:13:18 every day brought a flood of tips.

1:13:21 How long ago?

1:13:22 The tips that were coming in were overwhelming at times.

1:13:26 Especially since this was Detective Gus Sanchez's first homicide investigation.

1:13:33 Were you nervous at all?

1:13:34 Of course I was.

1:13:35 Yeah?

1:13:35 Yeah.

1:13:35 We know already that he had killed numerous people.

1:13:38 I remember going to different locations, knocking on doors.

1:13:41 And it always crosses your mind that Cunanan could be in there armed,

1:13:44 and he can shoot through the door.

1:13:46 Detectives soon learned Cunanan had been in Miami Beach for about 2 months.

1:13:51 He was sort of hiding in plain sight.

1:13:53 Exactly.

1:13:54 The police had missed several opportunities to get him.

1:13:58 About a week before he killed Versace,

1:14:01 Cunanan pawned a gold coin stolen from Lee Miglin.

1:14:06 How'd the pawn shop know it was him?

1:14:08 He told them.

1:14:09 Pawned the coin about a week before the homicide.

1:14:12 And used his own name.

1:14:13 Used his own name.

1:14:14 What's more, Cunanan's name was on a form the pawn

1:14:18 shop was required to send to the Miami Beach Police Department.

1:14:23 It arrived 5 days before the murder.

1:14:26 We did not have an automated system at the time.

1:14:29 It was just one of many forms, and unfortunately, nobody looked at it.

1:14:34 Did you think why didn't we know about this before Gianni Versace was killed?

1:14:40 That thought went through my mind several times cuz apparently

1:14:43 he was in the beach for a period of time.

1:14:46 Cunanan listed his address as the Normandy Plaza Hotel.

1:14:50 It was a dump.

1:14:51 You and I wouldn't stay in that hotel.

1:14:53 He'd registered under his own name.

1:14:57 Must drive you nuts to know that this guy was walking around free as a bird.

1:15:02 Right.

1:15:02 I I mean, just the fact that this guy

1:15:04 was being looked for speaks to the fact that he

1:15:08 was able to blend in and change his appearance

1:15:11 and successfully just stay one step ahead that way.

1:15:16 Things might have turned out differently if police had a little more luck.

1:15:21 Four days before Versace was killed, someone at this sub shop recognized

1:15:26 Cunanan from the America's Most Wanted story.

1:15:30 He called the police, but they arrived too late.

1:15:33 I was disappointed.

1:15:34 I was frustrated.

1:15:36 It's just unfortunate that we didn't catch him before it happened.

1:15:39 After Versace's murder, with Cunanan on the loose, anxiety grew.

1:15:45 Let me assure you that Miami Beach and Dade County are safe.

1:15:51 I was afraid.

1:15:53 Remember Versace's friend Lazaro Quintana had chased Cunanan.

1:15:58 So, I told the officer, "Go get him.

1:15:59 He's in there.

1:16:00 Go get him." He knew who I was, but I didn't know who he was.

1:16:05 How did you behave when you were out?

1:16:07 Scared?

1:16:09 Cautious.

1:16:10 Looking over my shoulder a lot.

1:16:11 Literally?

1:16:12 I mean Absolutely.

1:16:13 Oh, yeah.

1:16:13 I was Yeah.

1:16:14 I mean, I get goosebumps on it.

1:16:16 Absolutely.

1:16:17 This man had a gun.

1:16:18 This man knew what he was doing.

1:16:22 The longer Cunanan dodged police, the more intense the hunt became.

1:16:27 I think the police were getting anxious.

1:16:31 Where could he be?

1:16:32 What kind of resources did he have?

1:16:35 Former prosecutor Michael Band.

1:16:38 That's a lot of pressure.

1:16:39 That's a a of pressure on law enforcement.

1:16:41 The whole world's watching, but we don't want anybody else dead.

1:16:45 There was a sense that maybe we lost him by some people.

1:16:49 I just thought that he was hiding out.

1:16:51 Yeah, go ahead, Tom.

1:16:52 And then, the tip came in that would change everything.

1:16:56 Here we go, guys.

1:16:57 Here we go.

1:16:58 I get a call.

1:16:59 Michael?

1:17:00 I think we found him.

1:17:16 What's your emergency?

1:17:18 A little money got him, and they're shooting.

1:17:20 I heard over the police radio that there had been a shot fired.

1:17:24 That they were surrounding a houseboat.

1:17:27 You think what?

1:17:29 We got him.

1:17:32 After a 9-day manhunt, Miami Beach detective Gus Sanchez believed Andrew

1:17:37 Cunanan was finally cornered on a houseboat,

1:17:41 just 40 blocks from where he had shot down Gianni Versace.

1:17:50 When Sanchez arrived, it was a standoff.

1:17:53 At this point, nobody's seen Cunanan on the houseboat.

1:17:56 No, there's no confirmation at this point.

1:17:58 caretaker saw signs of a break-in, and when he went inside, a shot was fired.

1:18:05 Police quickly surrounded the houseboat.

1:18:07 They are communicating by bullhorn with the houseboat.

1:18:11 After a 4-hour siege, the SWAT team fired tear gas and went on board.

1:18:26 When it was safe, prosecutor Michael Band followed them.

1:18:30 It was a mess.

1:18:31 It was just a mess.

1:18:35 In an bedroom, they found a body.

1:18:41 I just recall an individual lying on the bed looking up.

1:18:47 He had a bullet wound in his head.

1:18:48 There's a gun next to him.

1:18:50 When you looked at that face, what did your gut tell you?

1:18:54 My gut told me it's him.

1:18:59 But that wasn't enough.

1:19:01 I wanted fingerprints.

1:19:02 As Band waited, an expert at the scene

1:19:05 compared fingerprints from the corpse with Cunanan's.

1:19:10 He looks up and he says,

1:19:13 "It's him." The reign of terror brought upon us by Andrew Cunanan is over.

1:19:19 It turned out Cunanan shot himself with the same

1:19:22 gun he used to kill Johnny Versace, William Reese, and David Madson.

1:19:28 It was the gun he had taken from his friend and first victim, Jeff Trail.

1:19:34 There's a sense of relief.

1:19:36 But this was not the outcome Michael Williams hoped for.

1:19:41 I didn't want him to do anything but go to jail and rot.

1:19:46 Andrew Cunanan's suicide left the world with a pile of questions.

1:19:51 Was there any connection between Johnny Versace and Andrew Cunanan?

1:19:56 There have always been rumors.

1:19:58 There is no hard evidence.

1:20:00 Do you think they knew each other?

1:20:02 I I think there's a strong possibility that they they crossed paths before.

1:20:07 And that plays into his motive.

1:20:09 I I think so.

1:20:09 I think they knew each other.

1:20:10 Or he wanted to be in his circle and maybe he was rejected.

1:20:14 And this is this is all speculation.

1:20:15 There is some sense, it's not complete.

1:20:18 Why did he do it?

1:20:20 What was the folks in Minnesota?

1:20:22 Why Chicago?

1:20:24 Why New Jersey?

1:20:25 Why Versace?

1:20:27 Was there a connection there?

1:20:28 Or was this just some a of serendipitous,

1:20:32 unfortunate occasion where just two lives intersected at the wrong time.

1:20:39 And we'll never know.

1:20:40 We'll never know.

1:20:43 20 years after Versace's death, Tim Gunn says Versace's influence still lives.

1:20:50 Sexy, alluring, gorgeous red carpet gowns,

1:20:54 it's all attributable to Gianni Versace.

1:20:59 Singer Bruno Mars not only wears Versace,

1:21:02 he mentions Versace in one of his songs.

1:21:09 If guys like Bruno Mars are singing

1:21:12 about Gianni Versace 20 years after his death,

1:21:16 what in your mind does that say about Gianni Versace?

1:21:19 That he's fully embedded in our society

1:21:21 and culture and has a has a profound legacy.

1:21:25 I feel his presence uh when I'm designing.

1:21:28 Layana Aguilar, a Project Runway contestant,

1:21:31 was just a teenager when Versace was killed.

1:21:35 There are Versace elements in what you're wearing today, right?

1:21:38 Yes.

1:21:39 Tim Gunn saw this and he said this looks like Versace and I was like,

1:21:42 yes, mission accomplished.

1:21:45 Of course, the memories are infinitely more personal for Michael Williams

1:21:50 who lost his best friend and two decades later it still hurts.

1:21:56 This hasn't left you.

1:21:58 I'm better.

1:21:59 It's taken me years.

1:22:02 You know, if it was just Jeff being killed, it would be one thing.

1:22:06 But then you got David and Lee Miglin and William Reese and Gianni Versace.

1:22:12 Five people that you're now connected to.

1:22:20 It is a connection no one would ever seek.

1:22:26 The world lost an icon, but five families lost loved ones.

1:22:31 Friends lost friends, all for a reason we'll never know, if there ever was one.

1:23:40 In January of 2000, I was a college freshman at Susquehanna University.

1:23:48 I was 18 years old.

1:23:50 I was on a second date with Dan Zapp,

1:23:52 who was a college freshman at Carnegie Mellon University.

1:23:57 My mom had a suggestion for us to just maybe walk around my town,

1:24:00 go down to the go down to the marina.

1:24:05 Dan and I we just stopped and we're talking.

1:24:08 We started picking up some stones and trying to skip some stones.

1:24:14 Well, as we were there,

1:24:15 there was a a red pickup truck came up and stopped by us.

1:24:21 And out comes this guy and he pulls a a dog out, Rottweiler.

1:24:27 He was asking us if we needed a ride and we,

1:24:29 of course, you know, politely declined.

1:24:31 He seemed normal.

1:24:32 He got back in his truck and as we continued walking,

1:24:37 the truck this guy must have turned his truck

1:24:40 around behind us and he comes up next to us,

1:24:43 off to our right, and blocks our path.

1:24:49 He immediately comes out of the truck with a gun pointed at us.

1:24:56 He pointed it right at us and said,

1:24:59 "Get in the effing truck." And he was dead serious.

1:25:05 At that moment, I felt like I had entered a nightmare.

1:25:10 It seemed completely unreal.

1:25:13 I remember Dan next to me was just saying, "I Here,

1:25:17 take my wallet, take my I have Here Here are my keys, my car.

1:25:22 I can give you my car.

1:25:23 There's a laptop in my car." Just started offering

1:25:25 like him all these things or whatever and he's like,

1:25:27 "No, I don't want those things.

1:25:29 Get in the truck." It felt like we were driving forever.

1:25:37 It felt like an eternity.

1:25:40 At this point, this guy was just, you know, ranting and raving.

1:25:45 He was just at it, acting crazy.

1:25:47 Completely crazy.

1:25:49 We just didn't want to be hurt, so of course we were just saying,

1:25:51 you know, "Wha- Wha- Whatever Whatever you want us to do,

1:25:54 you know, we'll do that.

1:25:54 Just please, just let us go." He eventually turned left onto this dirt road.

1:26:04 The three of us were standing there next to his truck.

1:26:08 The river's in front of us and he's kind

1:26:10 of like pacing back and forth and, you know,

1:26:14 has the gun in in hand and to emphasize his point,

1:26:17 he would like shoot the gun, um, shoot shoot the gun towards the river.

1:26:21 Like, "I don't know what to do." Bang.

1:26:24 "You guys have seen my face.

1:26:26 What am I going to do with you guys?" Bang.

1:26:31 When I first heard the gunshot go off, bang, it became more serious.

1:26:36 Bang.

1:26:37 This guy really has the potential to end my life.

1:26:41 I thought we were both going to die.

1:27:08 I just kept thinking about, okay, well, you know,

1:27:10 what can I say to calm this guy down?

1:27:12 He was just acting crazy.

1:27:14 We could tell that he was really

1:27:17 frustrated and agitated and really getting worked up.

1:27:20 I just remember huddling next to Dan during that time.

1:27:28 When he was shooting his gun, he was shooting it into the river.

1:27:31 It was almost as though he was doing it to scare us.

1:27:34 And it did.

1:27:38 And then eventually, he told me to get back in the front of the truck and he,

1:27:43 um, had Dan get in the back with the dog.

1:27:47 And I remember sitting in the front of the truck and he

1:27:50 comes in and he comes into the side and there we are again,

1:27:53 just sitting in the same spot again.

1:27:56 Him in the driver's seat, me in the passenger's seat,

1:27:59 and I had no idea what to expect next.

1:28:19 Well, as we were sitting there waiting, he looks over at me and he says, "So,

1:28:28 you said you'll do anything." And right in that instant,

1:28:32 I knew exactly what he was talking about.

1:28:36 And I knew right then that I was going to be raped.

1:28:41 And I kind of just nodded my head.

1:28:50 Cuz I didn't want to die.

1:28:53 And I definitely did not want Dan to die because of me.

1:28:59 So, um he did.

1:29:05 He raped me.

1:29:17 And he uh he took his gun and he kind of pointed it down for us to He said, "Go.

1:29:28 Go walk down there to which would be

1:29:30 walking down towards the river." So, Dan and I,

1:29:34 you know, grabbed a hold of one another

1:29:36 and we started walking down towards the river.

1:29:39 And um I was praying that he had gotten what he wanted from me,

1:29:46 you know, that he was going to to let us go.

1:29:50 And then I heard the gun go off again.

1:29:53 And then I saw Dan fall down.

1:29:56 And he fell down right in front of me.

1:30:03 And there was blood coming out of his mouth.

1:30:06 And I knew that if Dan had gotten shot, I was going to get shot.

1:30:10 I was next.

1:30:11 I mean, I immediately kneeled down.

1:30:16 And Dan and I we said I love you, and we said goodbye to each other.

1:30:28 And everything just went black.

1:30:37 I don't remember feeling any pain,

1:30:38 but I just remember feeling like a lot of pressure in my head.

1:30:53 The next thing I remember is waking up and I was in the river.

1:30:56 And my whole body was just I guess numb.

1:31:01 Like I really just couldn't feel anything at all.

1:31:05 And I kept um I was spitting out things, you know,

1:31:10 so I figured I had been I had been shot in the head, shot through the mouth.

1:31:18 In that moment, I I prayed with more faith

1:31:25 than I have ever had in my whole life.

1:31:28 And I just said, "Please, dear Jesus,

1:31:30 just take my soul." Soon after that moment is when um I spotted Dan.

1:31:39 I remember when I when I saw him just being, you know, just oh my gosh,

1:31:43 Dan's alive, and just trying to get towards him with like everything I could.

1:31:47 And I eventually got to Dan, and I grabbed hold of him so tightly.

1:31:51 And we were we looked back at shore where we had been.

1:31:55 And we saw this guy um just standing there staring at us.

1:31:59 I mean, the gun was still in his hand.

1:32:01 And I remember Dan saying to me that well if

1:32:04 we just you know if we just play dead if

1:32:06 we just you know don't move and just kind

1:32:08 of float down he'll just think we're dead and he'll leave.

1:32:11 And eventually you know we kept watching him and we

1:32:13 watched him get back in the truck and leave.

1:32:16 If I did not have Dan there to guide me

1:32:20 I don't know I don't know what I would have done.

1:32:25 I mean he was he was put there to save my life in that river.

1:32:34 I was sitting in my truck and looked upstream and I saw two objects coming.

1:32:45 I saw that it was two people.

1:32:48 And when they got down to me I stepped in the water and uh

1:32:53 reached out and got a hold of his hand and pulled him in to shore.

1:33:02 And then I saw that they were both shot in the head.

1:33:05 At that point neither one of them could talk.

1:33:08 They were shaken violently.

1:33:10 I had to get help at that point.

1:33:15 And then I had a hot car coming down there and I stopped them.

1:33:20 And I told them what happened and I said

1:33:23 you got to go up town here and get help.

1:33:25 Dispatch 27 can I help you?

1:33:27 Yes I'm down in where the gut runs there's two young teenagers down here shot.

1:33:32 But that time he started to bleed very bad.

1:33:37 And he couldn't talk.

1:33:40 The blood was choking him and he just couldn't talk.

1:33:44 I thought they'd be lucky if they can make it.

1:34:04 It was the evening of January 8th.

1:34:08 I had a phone call that Danny's been shot in the face.

1:34:16 I went opened a drawer on the way out the door and I

1:34:18 picked up a photograph that I carried in my lap with a cell phone.

1:34:30 I wanted part of her with me and the photograph

1:34:34 was the first thing that I was able to find.

1:34:37 And I clutched that and and kept that with me

1:34:42 talking to the photograph from Harrisburg to um to York Hospital.

1:34:57 During the drive down um I could only pray that she would be okay.

1:35:04 I had no idea if if I was going to ever see Danny Danny alive again.

1:35:10 ever get to hold her again.

1:35:22 The drive to the hospital with my mom was really really

1:35:25 scary cuz I didn't know what I was going to see.

1:35:28 Um once I got to the hospital, I didn't know what I was going to hear.

1:35:32 I just knew that I immediately had to get there to see how Danny was doing.

1:35:37 It was so scary cuz this was this was one of my best friends.

1:35:41 I didn't know if she was going to make it and if she did make it,

1:35:44 I didn't know how she was going to be, if she was going to be the same person.

1:35:56 I met Danny on the first day

1:35:57 of uh freshman orientation at Susquehanna University.

1:36:02 One of the first things that I noticed about

1:36:04 her was that she was just a really kind-hearted,

1:36:06 genuine person, and she had a great personality,

1:36:10 and she was uh just as enthusiastic about college as I was,

1:36:13 so I knew that we would get along really well.

1:36:15 A couple months into freshman year,

1:36:17 a mutual friend introduced Danny to Dan Zapp.

1:36:22 She met up with him for dinner, and they had a lot to talk about,

1:36:27 and she just she just really felt like

1:36:28 she had a lot of chemistry with this person,

1:36:31 and she couldn't wait till the next time they met up.

1:36:36 I didn't know how something like this could have happened.

1:36:40 I couldn't imagine who would want to do this to the two of them.

1:36:44 We saw Danny's mom there in the hospital.

1:36:47 She told us all of the details of the injuries.

1:36:51 My first reaction was that the two of them were not going to make it.

1:36:56 I thought that they that the shot to each of their heads would would kill them.

1:37:02 The most extensive injury on the female patient involved the right lower jaw.

1:37:15 The bones were shattered in so many pieces that it looked like Rice Krispies.

1:37:22 We noticed tremendous facial swelling.

1:37:25 The patient's face and head were almost the size of a bowling ball.

1:37:30 The feeling that I had when I first saw Danny um

1:37:34 in that condition was uh was this sense of of um helplessness.

1:37:42 I, as her dad, uh I couldn't fix the problem for that uh the dads like to do

1:37:50 and then knowing that my innocent sweet daughter was

1:37:57 laying there in that condition then you know asking why.

1:38:06 Of course at time and nobody had an answer.

1:38:10 The brutality of this crime is is beyond explanation.

1:38:19 How do you victimize two innocent people kidnap them,

1:38:23 terrorize them uh sexually assault the female victim then shoot them

1:38:29 in the head push them into a river and and leave them for dead.

1:38:34 I think everyone was just shocked.

1:38:36 Everyone was angry.

1:38:37 Everyone was upset.

1:38:38 We need to get this guy.

1:38:40 We need to get him now.

1:38:41 Being a father of two daughters of the same

1:38:44 age I was uh deeply concerned about this case.

1:38:48 I told the mother that we would do everything we could

1:38:51 humanly possible to identify who this was and bring them to justice.

1:38:59 This was quite an undertaking.

1:39:01 The fact that we had so much area,

1:39:03 so much river front to explore and look for a crime scene.

1:39:08 We were walking pretty much shoulder to shoulder looking down at the the ground

1:39:13 in front of us and within minutes I came across a large pool of blood

1:39:18 that was about 3 ft up from the water's edge and as I looked down

1:39:21 into the water I saw about three shell casings from a 9 mm handgun in there.

1:39:26 The clock was running and we needed to to get as much information as we could.

1:39:31 I was assigned to go down to York Hospital

1:39:34 to an attempt an interview with Daniel and or Danielle.

1:39:38 Unfortunately, Danny was in an induced coma so we were unable to interview her.

1:39:43 We learned that Dan was awake uh and that we

1:39:47 needed to interview him as soon as possible.

1:39:51 Dan's wounds at this point were very serious.

1:39:55 The male's medical condition was critical.

1:39:58 They were very concerned a blood clot could

1:40:01 form and cut the blood supply to the brain.

1:40:04 He was in pain and any kind of movement

1:40:07 that he would make uh was was very painful for him,

1:40:10 but he was eager to to help us.

1:40:13 And being that Dan was unable to speak cuz he was on a respirator,

1:40:16 we got a notepad from the hospital um and a pen and uh we gave

1:40:21 that to Dan and then we proceeded to ask

1:40:23 him questions about the description of the suspect.

1:40:28 Dan described the perpetrator as being a white male,

1:40:30 35 to 45 years of age, very drunk, blonde hair.

1:40:35 He had a brown hat, blue jeans, and black Nike high-top sneakers.

1:40:40 He described the weapon as a black semi-automatic pistol and the dog,

1:40:44 of course, uh this black Rottweiler named Sam.

1:40:48 Dan was able to provide us with information regarding the the vehicle

1:40:52 as being a beat-up red pickup truck with a uh white or gray cap.

1:40:58 He described items in the back to include a toolbox and a aluminum baseball bat.

1:41:05 We were looking for a violent person,

1:41:08 someone with knowledge of the area and this dog.

1:41:12 As we started talking with local investigators from surrounding agencies, Mr.

1:41:16 Babner's name came up.

1:41:18 His record entailed uh run-ins

1:41:20 with with police involving alcohol, domestic violence,

1:41:24 altercations between himself and others, and he did have a Rottweiler.

1:41:28 So, it was decided that a photo lineup would

1:41:30 be constructed and to include a photograph of Mr.

1:41:34 Babner.

1:41:35 I then took that photo lineup down to Dan and I asked

1:41:38 him you know "Can you help me?" And as I had the pictures

1:41:42 in my hand and I'm laying them down in front of him and Dan's

1:41:47 watching as I'm putting the pictures down and as I get to Mr.

1:41:51 Badner's picture there was a instant reaction in his face uh of pure horror.

1:41:58 Um his pupil dilated.

1:42:00 His one eye was swelled shut but his his his other eye I mean

1:42:03 I bam I saw his pupil go and he immediately just started hitting the picture.

1:42:08 He's hitting it he's hitting it he's hitting it

1:42:09 on the table and I said Dan is that the man?

1:42:11 He said yes it's him.

1:42:14 And uh I said are you sure?

1:42:18 He said yes and he's definitely and he's hitting that and uh I

1:42:24 looked at him and I said Dan we're going to go get him.

1:42:38 When I was in the hospital I had one

1:42:40 hallucination after the other because of the pain meds.

1:42:44 I was flipping out I was so scared um

1:42:48 and the nurses had to come in and calm me down.

1:42:51 At one point I was seeing bloody images everywhere.

1:42:54 I saw like a a woman hanging with blood running down her face.

1:43:00 It was like blood was everywhere.

1:43:02 She would write down on the paper or draw

1:43:05 what she saw floating bodies in the air bloody faces.

1:43:10 It was hard to sit there and again not be able to help only

1:43:16 to comfort her in the best way that I could by holding her hand.

1:43:19 I couldn't fight all those demons that she was

1:43:21 having inside of her at the time but I tried.

1:43:26 I notified everybody that you know we

1:43:27 had a positive identification on the suspect.

1:43:30 The problem was is we didn't know where he was.

1:43:35 We looked for him at known associates houses, residences,

1:43:39 anywhere we could possibly find him, but we were unable to locate him.

1:43:43 It was late.

1:43:44 We'd been working all day.

1:43:46 We broke.

1:43:46 I went home.

1:43:49 Took my gun off, took my badge off.

1:43:51 I remember I was climbing into bed and my pager went off.

1:43:55 It was to Chief County Detective.

1:43:58 I called him and he said we found a truck, get back in here.

1:44:02 I had a phone call saying that they were activating the QRT team.

1:44:07 The quick response team, which is another word for a SWAT team,

1:44:10 is utilized for barricaded gunmen, hostage rescue, and high-risk warrants.

1:44:18 This was a special type of criminal, a very, very violent one.

1:44:22 We didn't know if he was armed for sure,

1:44:24 but we assumed that he still had the weapons that he used to commit this crime.

1:44:28 He shot two people in cold blood.

1:44:31 We weren't going to take that chance that he threw those guns away.

1:44:35 We discovered that William Babner was staying at his girlfriend's house.

1:44:39 By the time we arrived, it was around midnight.

1:44:42 We deployed the team and and were set up about a house away.

1:44:47 We were in the alley, sort of in the shadows, crouched down, hiding.

1:44:52 Snipers were set up to cover the front of the house.

1:44:55 Sometime early in the morning, a female left the residence and she gave a whole

1:45:01 bunch of information about who was left in that apartment.

1:45:07 It was learned that at around 8:00 in the morning, Mr.

1:45:10 Babner's girlfriend's youngest child would be coming out to get on a bus.

1:45:15 The plan was that once that child got on the bus

1:45:18 and that bus started taking off down the road, that we were to assault.

1:45:25 We're hearing the snipers looking down at him.

1:45:27 Okay, we have an open door.

1:45:30 There's a child.

1:45:31 There's a man.

1:45:33 Yes, it's Babner.

1:45:34 He's in the door.

1:45:35 We're still waiting and we're we're hearing the child's going down the stairs.

1:45:40 The child is getting on the bus.

1:45:42 Go, go, go.

1:45:43 I was about the third man through the door.

1:45:45 I grabbed him and I was yelling, "Let me see your hands.

1:45:48 Let me see your hands.

1:45:49 Get down on the ground.

1:45:50 Get down.

1:45:50 Get down." and physically took him and knocked him to the ground.

1:45:54 We cuffed him and then that was it.

1:45:56 He was shocked.

1:45:57 It's not every day that um you can say you put your hands

1:46:02 on a on a monster and that's what I did that night.

1:46:05 During the execution of the search warrant,

1:46:07 all this stuff that Dan had seen was there.

1:46:09 We found the black Nike high-top sneakers, blue jeans,

1:46:13 the shirt, the hat, as well as the firearm.

1:46:16 And to no surprise to us, Sam was just as Dan had described it.

1:46:22 Dan's recollection was just outstanding.

1:46:25 You know, we have the who, what, when, where and how, but not a why.

1:46:30 And you know, I don't think we'll ever know the why.

1:46:34 After Babner was captured, I had a big sigh of relief,

1:46:37 but I knew our job was just beginning then.

1:46:39 We had to hope for the best for the two kids

1:46:41 that they'd be able to come to the trial and testify against him.

1:46:44 So, I still wasn't sure of the conditions of either one of them.

1:46:52 When I was in the hospital, they put me in an induced coma.

1:46:56 While I was in the induced coma, they sewed my tongue.

1:46:59 My jaw had been shattered, so they added a plate in my jaw.

1:47:03 So, when I woke up, I had a tracheotomy, so I had a a tube coming out of there.

1:47:08 I had a stomach tube when I woke up.

1:47:11 I mean, I was bandaged and swollen.

1:47:15 Like, my jaw was like out to here.

1:47:19 You know, my mouth was wired shut.

1:47:20 My teeth were all dirty.

1:47:22 Like, there was dirt in my teeth.

1:47:23 And when I looked at myself in the mirror,

1:47:25 you know, it was only, you know, from here on up.

1:47:28 But when I looked at myself, I started to cry.

1:47:32 I hated what I saw.

1:47:35 That first picture that Dan and I ever took together of me and him in my car,

1:47:42 it was like right next to me on the bed.

1:47:46 I knew I remember watching Dan walk out of the river,

1:47:50 but I didn't know what had happened to him since then.

1:47:53 I really had this feeling that he had died, that he did not make it.

1:48:13 When I woke up in the hospital, I kept asking my family, you know, "Where's Dan?

1:48:18 How's he doing?" And my family kept saying, you know, "He's alive.

1:48:21 He's doing really well.

1:48:22 He's right down the hall from you." And I did not believe them.

1:48:27 I thought that he had died.

1:48:30 And so he wrote me a note, and it said, "I love you.

1:48:35 I'm okay." And after I saw that, I knew I knew that he was alive.

1:48:41 I knew that he made it.

1:48:51 I never had any idea how close I was um

1:48:57 to to dying even after I had been back at the hospital.

1:49:04 The bullet entered back here.

1:49:06 There's a tiny lump behind my ear.

1:49:11 And it went straight through through my windpipe and out of my jaw,

1:49:14 and it exited over here.

1:49:18 It wasn't until much later that I heard

1:49:20 how the bullet had shipped one of my vertebrae,

1:49:23 how the bullet had passed straight through my windpipe.

1:49:26 You know, if the bullet would have uh been

1:49:29 another inch or a few millimeters closer to my vertebrae,

1:49:32 I could be dead or paralyzed.

1:49:35 When I saw the picture the first time,

1:49:37 I was scared at first to see his face again,

1:49:41 but I was extremely excited, just extremely relieved that I had found him.

1:49:46 I knew that this was him.

1:49:47 I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was the guy who had shot us.

1:49:51 And whether he admitted it or not, these are things that he had done,

1:49:56 and he was going to have to pay for them.

1:50:07 Nobody wanted to take this case to trial.

1:50:14 And we certainly didn't want to have

1:50:16 Dan and Danielle go through this experience, but he left us no choice.

1:50:20 He just wouldn't admit his guilt.

1:50:22 He wanted his day in court for whatever bizarre and sick reason, he got it.

1:50:29 Danielle and Dan were both very emotional before the preliminary

1:50:33 hearing when they entered the courtroom for the first time.

1:50:37 We just tried to tell them they were going to be safe.

1:50:39 He could do nothing further to harm them.

1:50:41 I was terrified to see him again.

1:50:45 I mean, he was a monster to me.

1:50:47 I did not want to be in the same room with him.

1:50:51 I felt just full of fear again, you know,

1:50:54 that face had just instilled so much panic inside of me.

1:50:59 Babner did not testify at trial.

1:51:02 I don't recall him calling any witnesses.

1:51:05 He He had nothing.

1:51:06 He had nothing but his arrogance.

1:51:08 He just sat there, and it was almost like either wanted to have Dan and Danielle

1:51:15 relive this by recounting what happened in a public

1:51:19 forum or he just frankly didn't care.

1:51:23 When Dan and Danielle were testifying at trial,

1:51:26 it was completely silent in the courtroom.

1:51:29 You could have heard a pin drop.

1:51:32 When I was up there on the stand,

1:51:34 I mean there were times where I had to break down.

1:51:36 I mean I they they had to show me,

1:51:38 you know, all the evidence so I could point out.

1:51:40 I mean they showed me the clothes that were cut off of me.

1:51:45 So it was the first time seeing that.

1:51:48 Uh and there was like mud splattered all over them.

1:51:52 You know, the gun.

1:51:53 Is this what the gun looked like?

1:51:56 It was a really hard experience, you know,

1:51:59 to sit there and and share that with everybody.

1:52:01 And I knew that, you know, my family was sitting there.

1:52:04 So I knew like all the details I was sharing,

1:52:07 especially about the rape, my family was hearing it, too.

1:52:12 The amount of courage that Danielle showed during

1:52:14 that trial was unbelievable because she had to tell

1:52:17 total strangers some of the most intimate details

1:52:21 that she could ever possibly have to relate to anyone.

1:52:26 Dan saw the crime from a different perspective than Danielle.

1:52:31 So the the jury was very interested in what Dan had to say.

1:52:39 I was trying to come up with any plan to get us out of that situation.

1:52:43 And I started to try to plead with him.

1:52:45 And I said, you know, "Sir, I I'll give you anything you want if you just

1:52:50 let us go." He just told me to shut up.

1:52:53 He said, "Shut up.

1:52:54 I don't want to hear it from you." At some point,

1:52:59 I realized that they're starting to move around up front.

1:53:01 I realized that that he's raping her.

1:53:06 That was really hard to know that something

1:53:08 that terrible was happening to someone that I cared

1:53:11 about and I was that close but I couldn't there was nothing I could do about it.

1:53:19 After he had raped Danielle,

1:53:21 he motioned with the gun and he said walk down there.

1:53:23 You know, walk down by the river.

1:53:26 The real gravity of the situation started to hit me.

1:53:30 I started to realize that I'm going to die today.

1:53:34 That no matter what I try to do,

1:53:38 this man is going to kill me and today is going to be the last day of my life.

1:53:47 And all of a sudden I just felt this tremendous force.

1:53:50 This impact that just hit me and and knocked me right to the ground and it

1:53:54 was so sudden and it was so powerful that my mind couldn't even catch up to it.

1:54:01 I didn't I wasn't even sure what had happened until I hit the ground.

1:54:06 I didn't even know that I'd been shot.

1:54:08 And I was just sort of laying there looking at the dirt

1:54:11 and I realized that there's like blood coming out of my mouth.

1:54:15 I started to get really cold and I started to get really tired very fast and she

1:54:21 kneeled down and she was obviously upset and I

1:54:23 just said to her I said, "Danny, I'm sorry.

1:54:25 I have to go now." And the next thing that I remember is

1:54:31 this feeling of being rolled of my body like sort of turning end over end.

1:54:38 And then all of a sudden this shock of of cold

1:54:41 of like freezing cold as I hit the water.

1:54:46 And so I just started to like float

1:54:48 in the water and sort of drift downstream with the current.

1:54:52 It was right around that point that I noticed that Danny was right there, too.

1:54:56 I don't know what I would have done if Dan was not there.

1:54:59 Dan was my lifesaver.

1:55:02 In that river, I remember at one point our hands separated

1:55:05 from each other and I could not move on my own.

1:55:09 And Dan, you know, he he felt my hand slip from his and he turned back

1:55:13 around and he swam back out and he grabbed me and he pulled me to shore.

1:55:16 I do not believe I would have survived without him.

1:55:23 Dan will never admit this, but he truly is the hero of the entire case.

1:55:29 He was constantly thinking.

1:55:31 He was constantly encouraging.

1:55:33 Without Dan, Babner has no face and is not apprehended.

1:55:38 Without Dan, Danielle isn't able to swim in the water.

1:55:44 Dan kept both of them alive.

1:55:47 It's still tough.

1:55:48 I still don't consider myself a hero in any sense.

1:55:55 Um but I'm glad I was there.

1:55:58 And I'm glad that, you know, if me if uh if me being there meant that you know,

1:56:07 she survived, then I'd do I'd do it again.

1:56:09 I'd do it a thousand times.

1:56:16 When the verdicts came, I remember sitting next to Dan and I was holding onto

1:56:21 Dan's hand and he was uh charged guilty on all accounts,

1:56:26 you know, on everything that he was charged with.

1:56:30 I mean, I just remember afterwards like

1:56:31 this flood of relief just going through me.

1:56:34 William Babner was convicted of two counts of attempted murder,

1:56:39 two counts of kidnapping, one count of robbery,

1:56:43 three counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, one count of rape.

1:56:48 His sentence was 117 and 1/2 to 235 years in a state correctional institution.

1:56:55 William Babner is the face of evil.

1:56:59 Next time Babler is going to get out of prison, he's going to be in a box.

1:57:18 Danielle and I stayed in touch after

1:57:20 the incident and we tried to talk um occasionally.

1:57:26 Um but our relationship wasn't anything like it was before.

1:57:31 It was like every time that I talked to her, I

1:57:35 had to bring up the past all over again.

1:57:40 I had to think about all the things that I thought I had done wrong.

1:57:44 All the ways that I couldn't save her and I

1:57:46 couldn't get us both out of that situation.

1:57:50 And I uh most of the time I couldn't stand it.

1:57:55 And over a period of time, I started to pull further and further away.

1:58:08 Transitioning back to being a college was really hard for me.

1:58:12 I really struggled with being around strange men that were strangers to me.

1:58:18 At first, she was a little withdrawn.

1:58:21 You know, she she was very scared.

1:58:24 Um she didn't want to walk alone at night.

1:58:27 She did have a lot of nightmares and um it was it was upsetting for all of us

1:58:33 because we really wanted to help her and we

1:58:36 really we didn't want her to be scared or sad,

1:58:40 but with the circumstances, there really wasn't any other way.

1:58:44 That's you know, that's how she was.

1:58:46 I I knew though in the back of my mind that there was

1:58:48 still a lot that I had to do personally in order to, again,

1:58:52 feel as though I could, you know, live again.

1:58:57 4 months after Bandler was convicted,

1:59:00 we had Take Back the Night on the Susquehanna University campus.

1:59:04 And what Take Back the Night is is a rally against rape.

1:59:09 Everybody can attend and they can get up

1:59:12 and speak about their experience with rape or violence.

1:59:16 And I saw all these brave women, you know,

1:59:20 walk up to the microphone and just share,

1:59:22 you know, "I'm a rape survivor." And share parts of their story.

1:59:28 It was just so inspiring and so empowering that they

1:59:33 had a voice that they were able to share.

1:59:43 There was about 10 minutes of silence.

1:59:52 Nobody was getting up to speak and Danny got up to speak.

1:59:57 And we knew that she was going to tell the whole story.

2:00:00 And we knew that she was going to share this with everybody.

2:00:04 And that was probably the most emotional um

2:00:07 moment for all of us because you could kind

2:00:10 of see the bravery in Danny and the growth

2:00:16 that she was making and how strong she was.

2:00:20 She just got up there and she told the whole story.

2:00:23 And um it just really moved everyone and it really moved all of us.

2:00:29 And we were we were so proud of her.

2:00:31 We were really, really proud of her.

2:00:38 I just I felt so much power and so much strength

2:00:41 and a part of what I felt he had taken from me,

2:00:45 I was able to to pull back and say, "You know what?

2:00:49 He may have taken, you know, a few things,

2:00:52 but there's so much that he didn't take, that he couldn't touch,

2:00:58 and that is what makes me who I am." I think that it took me a lot longer than

2:01:07 it should have to get to a more comfortable

2:01:11 place in dealing with the incident and talking about it,

2:01:15 and looking at it from a healthy perspective.

2:01:18 I knew that I should be getting therapy, you know, I should be dealing with it.

2:01:24 I just really didn't want to.

2:01:25 I wanted to try to ignore it and just hope that eventually it went away.

2:01:32 In the last 8 years, I feel like I've grown up a a whole lot.

2:01:36 Regarding the incident, my perspective has almost entirely changed.

2:01:42 Danielle and I have really reconnected over the past couple of years.

2:01:45 We've really started our relationship over from where it kind of ended,

2:01:49 and we're really close now, and I consider her a great friend.

2:01:53 Dan met um an amazing woman at college,

2:01:56 uh who has been such a great companion for him.

2:02:01 She has definitely helped him to get

2:02:04 to that next level in his own survival and healing.

2:02:10 They got married in 2007.

2:02:15 I feel like everything's kind of going

2:02:16 in the direction that I always wanted it to go,

2:02:19 and I'm just really happy for everything that I have right now.

2:02:26 In spring of junior year, I introduced Kevin Maguire to Danny.

2:02:34 And they connected instantly, and dated, fell in love,

2:02:41 and he proposed to her just uh just a couple years later.

2:02:56 The police chief and the men who rescued Dan and Danny,

2:03:01 including the duck hunter, were all guests at the wedding as well.

2:03:07 Danny looks absolutely wonderful.

2:03:09 She is just doing great and looking great and extremely proud of her.

2:03:19 I'm so happy that I have made it to where I am today.

2:03:25 With the gratefulness that I have for my beautiful

2:03:27 baby girl and the husband that I have,

2:03:30 I don't have to think about what happened to me every day.

2:03:33 It doesn't define me anymore.

2:03:35 I have learned how to make it a part of who I am,

2:03:38 but it has made me a better person.

2:03:44 Danielle and I are forever entwined.

2:03:47 That's like a connection that no one can ever take away from us.

2:03:50 She's always going to be a part of my life.

2:03:54 It's as those like our souls are almost connected.

2:03:59 He will be a part of my life forever.