Did Anything Change with AirPods Max 2?

0:00 So, I have beef with this.

0:01 Okay.

0:01 What's your beef?

0:02 Back about 10, 12, 15 years ago when I was growing up,

0:06 I had this mouse called the Cyborg Rat mouse from Mad Cats.

0:11 Yeah, from Mad Cats.

0:12 And it was a fully modular adjustment.

0:14 I got made fun of for that relentlessly.

0:16 It's the same thing.

0:18 It's the same thing.

0:23 Yo, what's up people of the internet?

0:24 Welcome back to your regularly scheduled programming on the Waveform Podcast.

0:28 We're your hosts.

0:29 I'm Marquez.

0:29 I'm Andrew.

0:30 And I'm David.

0:31 So, the last episode we published,

0:33 we published from South by Southwest, which was a lot of fun.

0:37 Uh, it was live recorded in front of that studio

0:40 audience is what we're going to call it.

0:43 Sure.

0:42 It was an studio.

0:43 It was a group of people.

0:44 It was a fun time.

0:45 Uh, we interacted with a lot of people.

0:46 You can go back and listen to it and watch it on YouTube.

0:48 It was sick.

0:49 Now, we're back.

0:50 And of course, we did have uh a couple of you

0:53 guys stay at South by Southwest and and see some other stuff.

0:55 So, we'll get to some talking talking about that.

0:58 Uh, but there's also some new Apple products.

0:59 The Nothing Phone 4a Pro and uh Samsung killing a product

1:04 and also our favorite YouTuber coming back from the dead

1:08 time.

1:08 My man.

1:09 Yeah.

1:09 But first,

1:10 did they even test this?

1:11 Did they?

1:12 I'm just going at it again.

1:14 I got a long list apparently.

1:15 This is going to be Andrew's rant parts of the podcast.

1:18 Yeah.

1:19 All right.

1:19 Love it.

1:19 Marquez, I know you don't watch a lot of YouTube on TV.

1:21 On your TV, right?

1:24 Right.

1:24 So, for those of you who do Yeah.

1:26 Only on TV.

1:26 You do?

1:27 Right.

1:27 Well, on my projector.

1:29 Yeah.

1:29 Yeah.

1:29 But have you ever gone into the history section to try

1:33 and watch something and realize that for some reason on the TV app,

1:37 it lists previous shorts you've watched individually.

1:41 So, for I'll try and paint this picture really fast.

1:44 Your problem is that you're watching shorts.

1:46 Well, I'm watching shorts on my phone, not on my TV.

1:48 But shorts,

1:50 you can watch 15 shorts in a minute, right?

1:53 If you're just scrolling through

1:54 15 shorts in 15 seconds, bro.

1:55 Yeah, exactly.

1:56 If you just swipe, if you just spam through like three in a row,

1:59 does it count all of those as a as

2:01 count all of those as a singular watching history?

2:04 So on your TV, if you were to do that very quickly,

2:07 now when you go to the history section on your TV,

2:10 the whole carousel of like previously watched things is now just short short.

2:15 They should just separate that.

2:17 So the thing is they know how

2:18 to already because on your desktop app, it's separated.

2:22 If you go to the history on your desktop app,

2:23 you can either click shorts or videos.

2:25 And it's even in two different sections or on mobile,

2:28 the way they do it, which is how they should do it on TV, is

2:31 in those thumbnails on like the carousel of different videos.

2:35 One of them is just a combined thumbnail of all the previous

2:39 shorts you kind of watched in the last time you were scrolling shorts.

2:43 Therefore, not completely clogging it up.

2:46 But on TV, the place where you are most

2:48 likely to not watch shorts and only watch long form.

2:51 If I let's say what happens to me the most

2:53 is I watch something like on the treadmill in the gym

2:56 then sometimes between then and when I go to bed

2:58 to turn on I've probably scrolled through a couple shorts.

3:01 I have a 15minute timer on mine but that's even

3:04 if you watch 15 now when I get into bed later

3:07 and try and find the video I watched because it's not

3:09 going to show up on my homepage because I'm halfway through.

3:12 The easiest way to do it is go into my history and be

3:13 like oh that was the literally the last YouTube video I watched.

3:16 It's not there because there's 20 freaking shorts in the way instead

3:21 and then I have to type it out

3:22 on the remote which is still the worst thing ever.

3:25 Yeah.

3:25 Uh do you ever use the watch later feature on YouTube?

3:29 Constantly.

3:29 Yeah.

3:29 Wait, do you

3:30 I I add a million videos to my watch later and I never watch them later.

3:34 What?

3:34 Really?

3:35 I used to have that exact same behavior.

3:37 How do you do it?

3:38 Uh just in the app there's a little watch later.

3:40 No, sorry.

3:41 Like how do you personally use it?

3:43 I use watch later as something I see pop up.

3:45 don't watch and add to there to remember to watch it.

3:48 Not halfway through then click watch later and go back to it.

3:52 Yeah.

3:52 I mean, if I'm halfway through a long video

3:54 and I want to finish watching the rest later.

3:56 I used to use the watch later feature on YouTube.

3:57 Now I use I used Pocket for a long time.

4:00 That got killed.

4:01 Now I use raindrop.io.

4:03 I just save them all to that.

4:04 But I used to use the watch later feature on YouTube and then

4:06 I would just forget about stuff and then I'd go back and I go,

4:09 "Oh, there's 73 videos in here I meant to watch later." And that became tough.

4:13 So yeah,

4:14 what you can do is you can watch like two seconds of it

4:16 and then the next time you open YouTube it's like the first suggested video

4:20 sometimes.

4:22 Sometimes

4:21 it feels like it debates on whether to send that or not.

4:24 Yeah.

4:26 Yeah.

4:25 There's too much content uploaded.

4:27 You just forget what you wanted to watch.

4:29 Yeah.

4:29 Too much stuff.

4:30 It's annoying.

4:30 You know what would be easy?

4:31 Just don't show me freaking shorts on TV or separate them.

4:35 Separate them.

4:36 Easy peasy.

4:37 I think we should get rid of shorts.

4:39 I don't disagree.

4:40 Good luck convincing YouTube.

4:41 I think the stat that I recently I was on the Dude Perfect podcast

4:44 and we were trying to figure out how many views YouTube got per day.

4:47 Was that views or uploaded?

4:49 I think views.

4:50 I'll go back and double check,

4:51 but I'm fairly sure we discovered that there's about a I want to get it right.

4:57 5 billion views per day of long form videos,

5:02 but 200 billion views per day of shorts.

5:06 And that ratio on YouTube and that made it

5:09 very clear to me that shorts are not going anywhere.

5:13 Every person on earth watches like

5:16 two videos.

5:16 Yeah.

5:16 Like one view is like 3 seconds or whatever.

5:19 So

5:20 it's like it's like saying like more than 220.

5:22 You know, people eat so many packs of Skittles per day,

5:25 but people eat trillions of individual Skittles.

5:28 It's like, all right, well not not a useful metric.

5:31 Trillions.

5:32 But the uh the supply versus the demand is is crazy.

5:36 Yeah, view views.

5:37 I wouldn't say it's demand.

5:39 I would say it's

5:40 No, that's what I'm saying.

5:40 There's not as much demand.

5:42 Oh, I see what you're saying.

5:43 Or sorry, there's a ton of demand, but not as much supply

5:45 of shorts.

5:45 So, shorts just get tons of views because there's not that many shorts.

5:50 Saturated.

5:52 Yeah.

5:51 Cuz how long it takes to make a short, I mean, is not that long.

5:55 But into comparison of how fast we can rip through shorts when watching,

5:59 like you could sit down on the toilet and be through 50 shorts by just like

6:04 Yeah.

6:04 That's why the demand number of views is so high.

6:08 Do you think AI could make shorts?

6:10 Yes.

6:10 AI is it's already clogging the entire feed.

6:16 Yeah.

6:15 My Okay, I have a YouTube complaint.

6:17 It's not And it's not a Did they even test this?

6:20 Cuz they probably did and there's some stupid apparently technical reason.

6:24 I think I brought this up before

6:25 on my So I I use a projector.

6:27 I use the Nebula X1 I think projector.

6:30 Um very bright.

6:31 kind of blinds me at night.

6:32 And uh I don't I think there there might be a way to turn the brightness down,

6:35 but I have not found it.

6:37 Anyway, I told you last week about how there's the two

6:39 different volume menus that it likes to just like randomly pick between,

6:44 but there's no way to watch content

6:47 like change the playback speed on the projector.

6:51 For some reason, when you there is the option there's

6:53 a playback speed option and when you go to click it,

6:55 it's grayed out and it says not available on this device.

6:58 And I think boohoo.

6:59 So now you gota like watch it as it was designed to be watched.

7:02 You gota watch this in one time speed.

7:05 I've We're on 3x now.

7:07 That's not even real.

7:08 We're in 3x mode.

7:10 Why do you hate videos?

7:11 It's insane.

7:12 I hate everything.

7:14 Can I go one step?

7:15 I want to move through life faster so I die sooner.

7:17 What?

7:18 I want to go one step further in the wrong direction vaguely

7:21 relative to this, but I was messing around with Adam the other

7:24 day on my phone because the new Google update changed the animation

7:29 when folders open on your homepage and has this little like the pixel update.

7:32 Yeah,

7:33 the pixel update.

7:33 Sorry.

7:33 The bottom row kind of like folds out and I just don't like it.

7:37 So, I was in developer options changing animation speed and I had

7:40 this brain fart where I see.5x is the faster but then I was like,

7:45 wait, no, does that mean it's going slower?

7:47 So then I saw 10x and I was like, "Oh,

7:48 this will be 10 times faster and clicked it and then like swiped up and then

7:53 it's 10 times slower." And yet the the Windows just like and I was like, "Oh my

8:00 I know it's a developer option so you're not

8:02 supposed to really do it or to see like smoothness.

8:04 You have to be a developer to do it."

8:06 So funny though.

8:07 It's like the Matrix.

8:09 It's It was Yeah, it was like Neo dodging bullets.

8:12 Anyway, I I do I do watch content that, you know, well,

8:16 now I watch all content at 1x speed

8:18 on my projector cuz I can't watch it at 3x speed.

8:22 Nice.

8:22 But, you know, content that's made to be consumed at normal speed,

8:25 I will consume at normal speed.

8:26 If it's talking head 2x, if it's vlog, 2x.

8:31 Yeah.

8:31 How do you define content that was meant to be watched at normal speed?

8:35 I would argue all almost all content is meant to be watched.

8:38 There's a lot of content that I

8:38 watch for informational purposes and just to like

8:42 You're talking about podcasts.

8:44 No.

8:44 What is

8:45 podcasts are mostly 1x for me.

8:47 That's that's the most shocking thing you said.

8:49 What?

8:51 What?

8:50 That's really confusing.

8:51 So, what is not meant to be watched at 1x speed?

8:54 He's he's explained this.

8:55 He's saying when he's like researching something,

8:57 do the like 2x to really quickly listen to all

9:00 of it and then reference something he's reading later.

9:03 Yeah.

9:03 Or jump back to it.

9:04 Yeah.

9:05 or jump back.

9:05 If it's supposed to be for like the visual,

9:07 I have to watch the visuals and it's more about the experience, then I do 1X.

9:11 But if it's like I just need to soak up this information,

9:14 then it's like two to three.

9:15 Sometimes there's just a I don't watch a lot of 2x,

9:18 but sometimes there's a video where it's like

9:20 super grasping bit of information in the title.

9:23 Like there was one about how like Earth had 65 million years of rain non-stop.

9:28 And I was like, I want to listen to this real fast,

9:30 but I don't have time for it.

9:31 So quick 2x to basically just like 30 minutes

9:35 later be like it had a lot of rain.

9:37 That was crazy about this for

9:40 fair.

9:41 I'm not on YouTube to view your art.

9:43 I'm there to learn things.

9:45 How dare you?

9:46 This podcast is art.

9:47 You know who 30 frames 1 second podcast at 1x

9:53 speed generally is because I don't have enough new podcasts today.

9:56 And if I run out then how am I supposed to feel with my thoughts?

10:00 slow it down.

10:01 I would panic.

10:03 No, actually yesterday I did go to the gym

10:04 without anything and it was I raw dogged.

10:06 It was crazy.

10:08 The gym with no raw dog the gym.

10:09 He just didn't work out either.

10:10 He just stood there the whole

10:12 looked looked in the mirror for 45 minutes and was like, I hate this.

10:16 Why do people do this?

10:18 Anyway, okay, we should move on.

10:20 Uh we were at South by Southwest as we just talked about.

10:23 So, we wanted to mention a few of the highlights that we saw in Austin, Texas

10:28 in the extremely short amount of time we were there.

10:30 Some of us.

10:32 Yeah,

10:31 I think like 24 hours.

10:33 Yeah, Marquez, Adam,

10:34 and I were there for less than 24 hours

10:36 and then David and Ellis stayed for two days.

10:39 Sunday.

10:40 Yeah, stayed till Sunday.

10:42 Um, we saw Wait, wait.

10:44 First, yes.

10:45 Thank you to everyone who came.

10:46 Yes, that was amazing.

10:48 That was so much fun.

10:49 And also, we we met so many of you and you guys

10:52 were all so nice and cool and fun and that was great.

10:55 I had so much fun.

10:56 The crowd was a little smaller than last time,

10:58 but I would argue louder and more rambunct.

11:01 Oh yeah, Marquez on the audio said 30,000.

11:04 It was probably like 25,000.

11:06 Um, a little less than we thought, but crowd was awesome.

11:09 Questions were great.

11:10 Whoever we met, super cool.

11:12 We met some people at In-N-Out like the night before, which was really awesome.

11:15 And Ellis, so some other people we met at In-N-Out were in a band

11:18 that was playing at South by Southwest and then Ellis and I went to their show.

11:20 Yeah.

11:21 And then this week they're uh coming to New York.

11:23 They're from Australia.

11:24 might and uh and uh

11:27 In-N-Out is incredible, man.

11:28 Ask and then we're going to we're going to hang out with them this week.

11:30 Shout out swap meet the band.

11:32 We haven't figured it out.

11:33 In-N-Out is having a week.

11:37 Yeah.

11:36 Bord asked Ellis if he was your frisbee teammate.

11:40 So, we think they just know you from Frisbee and not from this.

11:43 That's really funny.

11:45 Yeah,

11:45 it's pretty awesome.

11:45 It is funny that we were I was talking

11:47 about the like you know meeting some of you

11:49 guys and 99% of people who came up and said

11:52 hi were saying I've watched the videos or I've

11:55 seen I've started to get a variety of things

11:56 they say oh you do the the car videos

11:58 like oh yeah or I'll I'll hear like oh you do the Tik Toks I go oh yeah

12:03 the Tik Toks the guy at fashion week or uh uh mega gall

12:09 yeah I don't get that anymore but I do I think like one out

12:12 of every hundred will be like oh you're the frisbee guy And I'm like,

12:15 "Whoa, that's that's that's a throw." A throw.

12:19 Did you miss the the one where they came up and went,

12:21 "Oh, you're David and Andrew's co-host."

12:23 No, I missed that one.

12:26 Sick.

12:26 Yeah.

12:27 Yeah.

12:27 So, that that was awesome to to hear from a lot of you guys.

12:29 We got some fun questions.

12:31 So, anyway, you guys were there for a little

12:32 bit after the the couple days following our podcast.

12:35 What did you guys see?

12:37 Well, before we left and they stayed there,

12:39 right across from our hotel was this parking lot with like a Tesla experience.

12:43 And as I believe it's called an activation.

12:47 All of Austin was an activation.

12:48 Literally every sing the coffee shop we went to had ads on our

12:52 This is what happened to Coachella, too, man.

12:54 The corporation.

12:55 The local businesses probably made a ton of money,

12:58 which is probably super helpful.

12:59 I'm so glad that a little company like

13:01 Starbucks can just like roll in, you know.

13:04 Um but so, uh yeah, the Tesla activation was right across from our hotel.

13:08 So, we came back and there was this flatbed truck with a

13:13 big glass box and a cyber cap inside of it.

13:15 Yeah.

13:15 I guess they had a a bunch of Teslas in this parking lot.

13:18 They had Model 3s, the new Model Y, the Cyber Truck,

13:21 and then they had one trailer in the corner pulled by a matte

13:24 black Cybertruck that was like clear that had a a single

13:28 It was pulled by Cybertruck.

13:29 I thought it was just a flatbed.

13:30 Oh, wow.

13:31 I missed that.

13:32 Yeah.

13:32 See, there it was a whole activation.

13:33 You missed this.

13:35 So, uh they had the little cyber cab in there.

13:37 Someone actually on Twitter pointed out that that's the same clear trailer they

13:40 used to bring around I think a Model Y when it first got unveiled

13:43 and they had like the tape that they had like pulled the Model Y

13:46 off but you could still see the outline of the text that said Model Y.

13:49 That's hilarious.

13:50 Anyway, they're doing the clear trailer thing

13:51 and there's the robo taxi sitting right there.

13:53 There's a robo taxi.

13:54 We Well, so that's it was there.

13:56 Then we saw later on the corner there was another one parked,

13:59 not driving but parked.

14:01 And then there was other videos of one driving that had a steering wheel.

14:04 It reminded me that that it had scissor doors.

14:07 Yeah.

14:07 But you I forgot they sort of

14:09 You mentioned that every time.

14:10 Yeah.

14:10 Every time I like programmed into

14:12 like why did they do that?

14:13 Yeah.

14:13 They open sort of like a ladybug, you know?

14:16 Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.

14:17 Yeah.

14:17 Wait, so we saw one on the street that was like doing its thing.

14:22 It had It wasn't doing its thing.

14:23 It had a steering wheel.

14:24 Well, yeah, but I mean it wasn't What I was going

14:26 to say was I'm confused because that one was silver gray,

14:28 I think, and the one we saw in the trailer was gold.

14:31 You saw You saw a robo taxi.

14:32 It was a robo taxi.

14:34 A robo taxi is a modified Model 3 model or

14:37 a robo taxi is an unmodified Model Y that is

14:41 a person in the passenger seat and nobody in the driver's seat

14:44 that is operating kind of the same way like Whimo is

14:47 in Austin where you can grab a ride from the app.

14:49 I think the cyber taxi is a fake car made of stickers with gold.

14:54 I did there someone was

14:56 Those are stickers.

14:57 That's the Oh my god.

14:58 Someone was driving one of them um like very

15:02 slowly at like 15 miles an hour along the road.

15:06 Someone did drive a cyber cab.

15:08 Yeah, cyber cab.

15:08 And it had a steering wheel steering wheel.

15:10 Steering wheel, but it has no it has no side mirrors.

15:13 Um which is legal.

15:14 So they were going at like 15 miles an hour and very slowly.

15:18 So when people say that they were driving around Austin in a robo taxi,

15:23 in a robo taxi, the

15:24 robo taxi is the Model Y.

15:25 Robo taxi service is a ride hailing service of Model Y's

15:29 like Whimo and Model Y's.

15:31 So this cyber cab,

15:32 the cyber cab is

15:34 on the road yet.

15:35 Not on the road yet.

15:36 It's the twodoor gold painted no steering wheel thing.

15:39 That was the thing we saw.

15:40 I thought that people at the live show were saying

15:42 they saw that driving around and I was like, "Oh,

15:44 no.

15:45 I did see it driving around." Oh, you did?

15:46 I did.

15:47 It was driving around very slowly.

15:48 Oh, okay.

15:49 With a steering wheel.

15:50 It's not supposed to have a side.

15:51 And it didn't have rearview mirrors or side mirrors.

15:54 sidemirs.

15:55 Yeah.

15:57 So,

15:56 allegedly when the cyber cab comes out,

15:58 it will be sold to human beings in 2026

16:01 with no steering wheel pedals or mirrors because two-seater.

16:05 Yeah.

16:05 Wireless charging.

16:06 Oh, yeah.

16:07 So,

16:08 so two things we noticed is one,

16:10 I thought it was to make this confusing and maybe helps in the confusingness

16:14 of Adam right there is it said robo taxi on the side,

16:16 but that's because that's the service.

16:19 Mhm.

16:19 It did light up, which was kind of cool.

16:20 There's this really funny video of I guess them turning it

16:24 off at night where like 10 Tesla employees are like wrapped around

16:28 the front trunk to not be able to see the person reaching

16:31 in to turn it off cuz I guess that's where the switch is.

16:33 Um they do the same thing in soccer when they're about to go really

16:37 you stand in a line in front of the person.

16:39 Um the So at the event it has a gold

16:43 arrow wheel hubcap and then it was painted gold.

16:46 This was like a big sticker that looked pretty terrible.

16:49 Yeah, there's a whole long there's actually

16:50 a long list of things that people have

16:52 pointed out have changed between the initial

16:54 unveiling at the event cuz we all got

16:56 to walk up to that one and sit in it and take videos of it

16:58 to now what they're parading around in this trailer

17:00 and I'm sure more changes will happen.

17:02 This always this happened with the Cybert truck.

17:03 This happens every time.

17:04 But yeah, one of those changes was instead of paint on the sidewall

17:07 of the tire to make it look like a lowrofile tire.

17:10 Now, they had essentially glued a hub cap that is larger than the wheel

17:15 itself and extends onto the tire to again make it look like a lowrofile tire,

17:20 but they glued it to the side of the tire.

17:22 I don't even think you can like you need some amount of brake cooling and I

17:26 don't think you can have a completely

17:27 opaque thing that just seals your brake into it was a vinyl sticker.

17:32 It was definitely Yeah, cuz this thing isn't driving.

17:36 So, it just has to sit there and look like a cyber robot or whatever.

17:40 Um, but yeah, the the idea is to make it look really futuristic.

17:43 And part of this futuristic aesthetic is like a big wheel.

17:45 Like you see you picture Tron and you're like, "Oh, big wheel, small car,

17:48 very futuristic." So they're trying to make it

17:50 look like a lowrofile tire on a big wheel.

17:51 And this is the new way they're doing it is with a sticker.

17:54 So yeah, I did see someone post a video of them.

17:58 I guess they didn't really know what it was,

17:59 but asking one of the Tesla employees,

18:01 this was the one that was on the corner at the hotel,

18:03 not in the truck, but not driving.

18:06 And the way that the Tesla employee described it was, uh,

18:10 this vehicle is going into production about next month or so,

18:13 potentially available for consumers sometime next year.

18:16 So now they're saying 2027.

18:18 Well, this is it's hard because this is

18:20 a singular random employee or maybe not even Tesla employee.

18:23 They may have just been hired for the activation there.

18:25 I have no idea.

18:26 But as a person with a Tesla shirt answering questions

18:28 about the Cyber Cab to someone who came up and asked,

18:31 does he know about that said?

18:33 Doesn't that guy know about I wish you went and talked to him and

18:36 I really kind of wanted to.

18:37 We drove by it and I was like, "What if I walked up and just asked like when is

18:40 this thing coming out?" What would they have said to me?

18:42 I have no idea.

18:42 We have no idea.

18:43 I guess we'll never know.

18:44 Well, in other car news, uh Ellis and I got to ride around in the Rivian R2.

18:50 This one's almost a real car.

18:51 It's so close.

18:52 It's Yeah,

18:53 it's like a month from now, couple weeks from now.

18:55 Yeah.

18:56 Right around the corner.

18:57 Well, Q, what is it?

18:59 Spring.

19:00 Spring.

19:00 June 20th.

19:01 It's so June 21st.

19:02 It's technically just as real as the cyber cab right now, but it's so close.

19:06 It's very close.

19:06 It's so close.

19:07 Yeah, we did ride in it.

19:08 They had a um activation.

19:11 Uh

19:13 they had an activation there where you would, you know,

19:15 go up a really steep hill and then there was these like there were

19:17 these micro hills where you the car

19:19 would rotate back and forth really quickly so

19:22 that you could like see how the suspension was sort of like keeping you upright

19:25 and you felt like you were going to roll over but then you didn't roll over.

19:28 It's pretty nice.

19:29 We rode in it.

19:29 felt extremely similar to an R1 in terms

19:32 of like build quality and stuff like that.

19:34 Um you've used it so like you know you have experience too.

19:38 Yeah.

19:38 Um that was fun.

19:39 We had to wait in that line for like an hour cuz like

19:41 so many people wanted to be in that uh like try it out.

19:44 Um

19:45 do you know is that only the performance that has that active suspension?

19:49 They all have uh just active dampers.

19:51 There's no air suspension in any of them.

19:53 It's still a good suspension for what it is.

19:56 Performance has semi-active suspension and I don't see other of trims

20:03 then it must have been the the performance.

20:05 So, one of the things that was really cool about the Rivian ride along

20:07 event that I wish all companies would do is that the people driving these cars

20:12 engineers

20:12 were like engineers and developers for the cars.

20:14 Um, yeah, I don't know.

20:15 I feel like it typically it's really hard to talk to someone who had

20:19 a technical input on a product from from maybe maybe not for you Marquez.

20:25 No, this is usually true.

20:26 Yeah, it's like it's like generally these companies are like, "No, no, no.

20:28 you're going to talk to the communications people,

20:30 the engineers will stay locked away in their

20:34 There are there's a spectrum of companies and how guilty they are of this.

20:37 I think maybe near the top of the list is like Apple.

20:40 You only talk to PR people and marketing people.

20:43 But on the other side of the spectrum,

20:44 there are companies who it's like especially a lot of auto companies,

20:47 you will sit in the car with the chassis engineer

20:50 or the people who actually helped to make that product happen,

20:52 which is much more interesting to me.

20:54 Yeah.

20:54 Anyway, I I was very like,

20:56 "Tell me everything the car knows about what's going on right

21:00 now." And I got a pretty detailed explanation of I mean,

21:03 as detailed as you could be, the whole ride along is like 45 seconds.

21:06 So, I was like, "Se 2x speed." Um,

21:10 it does say unique to performance trim is an active suspension.

21:12 Semi-active suspension.

21:14 They uh they had all these cool plaid colors.

21:17 Um, I say plaid because it's like stripes

21:20 of color that kind of like overlay over each other,

21:22 kind of like a weave, like a basket weave.

21:24 more vinyl stickers.

21:25 Um, probably.

21:26 Uh, but everyone was like, "Oh,

21:28 these colors are so cool." And then they were like,

21:30 "But we're not going to sell them." They're selling Yeah,

21:33 they're selling a few colors.

21:34 They're selling gray, um, gray, gray,

21:38 uh,

21:38 per gray.

21:39 Purple, gray, and gray.

21:41 And gray.

21:42 Oh, there's also a green gray and a gray green.

21:47 Yeah.

21:47 Yeah.

21:47 Somebody had tweeted like, "Oh, these colors are so awesome.

21:50 Like, why aren't you going to sell these?" And Rivian responded like,

21:53 "We love the color selection that we chose." And I was like,

21:56 "That's the PR person.

21:58 Gray, gray, and gray." Uh,

22:00 I think that they just like are if you want a fun color,

22:02 you have to pay way more money.

22:03 I think that's the move.

22:04 I'm not super in the off-roading world,

22:06 but the liveries on the like show cars they had at Southby

22:10 to me looked like they were inspired by the classic Baja trucks.

22:14 If you know any of those liveries, just for audio listeners who are trying to

22:17 like Who let the dogs out kind of thing?

22:19 No, like the drink at Taco Bell.

22:21 Oh,

22:21 no.

22:22 No.

22:22 Like Baja, the the famous off-road truck race, right?

22:25 Yeah.

22:25 Yeah.

22:26 I wonder about this sometimes.

22:28 Like I almost want to start a formal petition like,

22:30 "Riven, please sell us the wrapped R2.

22:33 It looks so cool." Remember the camouflage

22:35 wrap from our initial autofocus video,

22:37 which was like R2-D2 themed.

22:38 A lot of people were like, "This looks sick.

22:40 I would want one of these." And I just wonder what,

22:43 you know, companies tend not to do wraps.

22:45 Maybe they're worried about like vinyl getting damaged

22:47 or like people having a weird experience versus paint.

22:49 I don't know.

22:50 But I wish they would sell us these looks.

22:52 They look cool.

22:54 Yeah.

22:54 Anyway, yeah.

22:54 I mean, I guess you could go get a wrap separately and people will and etc.,

22:57 but those do cost a lot of money.

23:00 Um, so that was fun.

23:01 Uh, there was also the also bike, which is the Rivian sort of spin-off company.

23:06 We saw a guy riding it

23:08 and he told us that we could ride it and then we forgot to do it.

23:12 We were going to do it and then we forgot.

23:13 But apparently they're pretty cool.

23:15 They look pretty interesting.

23:16 They look kind of like a combination between

23:17 like a nothing phone and like an Apple product.

23:21 It It looks like a like a weird like future bike

23:24 from Meet the Robinsons that someone attached a like teenage engineering box.

23:29 Yeah.

23:29 The box like by the pedals feels very Teenage Engineering.

23:32 Yeah.

23:32 And I know that uh Quinn Snazzy Labs has done a video,

23:36 maybe just a short or something about it.

23:38 He got to go test it out for a while.

23:40 A few people have.

23:41 Seem pretty cool.

23:41 They're very expensive, but they're they're pretty neat.

23:44 Um, so that was neat.

23:45 And then Ellis and I made a uh made a little

23:49 hike out to the outskirts of Austin to see the Brain Audio.

23:53 I don't know.

23:53 I don't know if it's fair to call it.

23:54 It's just South Congress.

23:55 Well, I've never been there, so I'm going to call it upstate New York.

24:01 It's Westchester.

24:02 It's Westchester.

24:04 No, we went we we we walked about 3/4 of a mile south of the river,

24:10 the outskirts Ellis.

24:11 It was hot.

24:12 It was so hot.

24:13 It was hot.

24:13 Yeah.

24:13 We met up with a Brain Audio at the Brain Store.

24:17 Uh Brain Audio being that company that um

24:19 we made a video studio video of a little

24:21 bit ago uh that people got really mad at the way we titled it, but I don't care.

24:25 The speaker broke physics.

24:26 Um and they are working on a new product that they just unveiled at CES.

24:29 We weren't at CES, so we didn't get to see it there.

24:31 It's called the Party Pro.

24:33 Yeah.

24:33 Um and it has the updated version of their RAD driver,

24:36 which is like this subwoofer mechanism that they've developed.

24:39 Uh yeah.

24:40 And um

24:41 it's got the power of nine Brain X's, something like that.

24:44 It's crazy.

24:45 It's just like it's crazy.

24:47 This So this new speaker is like bigger than

24:50 Brain.

24:51 It's like we There's a Brain X sitting right off camera over here.

24:54 Um it's lunchbox sized.

24:55 Yeah, this is this is like Brain X is like lunchbox size.

24:58 Party Pro is like

25:02 big, like large microwave size.

25:03 That's a good way to

25:05 um describe it.

25:05 And it's just one of those things where you look at it and you go,

25:08 I can imagine how much bass that box will produce and then you go,

25:12 "Oh my, oh my goodness."

25:14 It's crazy.

25:15 Um, and there's a bunch of really cool

25:16 features that I'm super excited for and it

25:19 just seems like we're closer and closer

25:20 to this rad technology being in like actual commercial speakers.

25:27 Just crossed my mind as you're as we were talking about the title

25:30 that we used for the brain video and the meta of reviewing tech on YouTube.

25:34 You're saying we get the technical information from the the manufacturer

25:39 which then gets obfiscated into more marketing everyday terminology

25:43 to get given to us which then we break down

25:46 into technical information to understand better and then re turn back into

25:52 I can I can all just birds I I went to a talk see so if you don't know

25:59 what South by Southwest is it's

26:00 like this everything it's the conction convention.

26:05 And so I went to this talk that was this the chief marketing officers of

26:09 Under Armour, the TOVA uh cowboy boot and then like a major tech company,

26:15 tech conglomerate that I don't want to say who it was for the sake of the story.

26:20 And um and I went up to the tech guy afterwards and I was like, you know,

26:25 you don't know this, but you and I have been

26:28 locked in this intricate one-way dance for quite some time.

26:31 And he was like, what do you mean?

26:32 And I explained that to him.

26:33 I was like, you know, you're you're this marketing officer for this guy.

26:36 Like your engineering department gives your marketing

26:40 department this like technical sheet that then

26:41 your marketing department has to turn into stuff

26:44 that the average person can can understand.

26:46 Press release.

26:47 Like Marquez said earlier,

26:48 a lot of companies do not give us direct access to that information.

26:52 So then we have to take the press releases and like reverse technicalize it

26:56 to give it to you guys who actually do care about that technical information.

27:00 Um, and so I explained it.

27:01 I was like I was like I've been doing this dance

27:03 with you and your marketing department for for years now man.

27:07 Yeah.

27:07 How much is this speaker going to cost?

27:09 Oh no.

27:09 I don't know.

27:10 But cuz at the risk of sounding like an who cares?

27:14 It's going to be It sounds I mean the way you're describing it,

27:17 it sounds like it's not.

27:18 It sounds like it's going to be so expensive

27:19 that no one's going to be able to buy it.

27:21 Hold on.

27:21 There's two things I want to say that.

27:22 The first is I'm going to steal what David was about to say because

27:24 it relates to this which is we cover a lot of like flagship huge tech.

27:28 The cool part about Brain and working with Brain and talking with these guys

27:32 is that they are the epitome of like two guys with a garage who are

27:36 like actually changing the game and making

27:38 something really really cool and unique and uh

27:42 even though it's again it's like this is a marketed as a party speaker.

27:46 You know, I don't think either of any of us are the kind

27:48 of people that like pull up to the beach with like a big giant speaker.

27:52 Um I mean they even said they didn't really want to make a party speaker.

27:54 It was just kind of the natural of what they wanted to do.

27:57 Yeah.

27:57 Yeah.

27:58 And like on the topic on the topic of speakers,

28:00 I I don't know how much it's going to cost.

28:01 Um you know, the the Brain X is sort of the most

28:04 expensive one of the most expensive Bluetooth speakers in its category.

28:07 Um the cool thing one of the a lot of the cool things

28:09 about the new Party Pro is and this is inside baseball speaker knowledge,

28:13 but there's like this integrated chassis and then the top

28:16 has these like latch points that connect directly to the chassis.

28:20 So you can stack them on top of each

28:22 other and form this speaker arrangement called a line array,

28:25 which is a really common venue system.

28:27 And then also you can have and hanging points.

28:30 Now you can like hang these from the ceiling.

28:32 So they made a party speaker,

28:34 but it's a party speaker that if you have the right hardware

28:37 can actually function as an integrated sound system in a small venue.

28:42 And then they also added like full

28:44 IO and this proprietary Ethernet based communication system.

28:49 And so like if you're in the market for like a party speaker,

28:53 this will be one of the more my guess is

28:56 one of the more expensive things in in the the thing,

28:59 it's going to have amazing battery life because

29:01 of the rad technology and how efficient it is.

29:03 And it's going to get way louder relative

29:05 to the size and weight of its competitors.

29:07 Um, and then also it's the kind of thing where if you're already

29:10 a dork and can sort of look ahead and see these technical opportunities,

29:14 like you could actually build a pretty cool room with these.

29:17 Or they have the ability to turn off the tweeters

29:19 and the woofers and just have the sub be the only actuator.

29:22 So if you have a small home studio at the risk of sounding like who cares?

29:27 I think I literally forgot you were talking.

29:33 Wow.

29:34 Barking up the wrong tree with their market.

29:35 These these are not consumer speakers.

29:37 Yeah, the Bluetooth.

29:38 Nothing you said sounds consisted by something.

29:42 Fine, fine, fine.

29:44 I guess I guess we only care about the the fascist promax freaking

29:48 Most people only care about the cheapest speaker.

29:50 That's it.

29:51 That's how it sounds.

29:52 The the Bluetooth speaker market is like one of those crabs

29:56 where eventually you just end up at party speaker.

29:59 And the further you go from party speaker, the smaller your market is.

30:03 And so you're probably going out in price or in size or whatever.

30:06 So like something like this, a $500 Bluetooth speaker is way outside.

30:10 Yeah.

30:11 Same with like the WLA Phantom that we show,

30:13 which is like obviously an insane that's like

30:15 a $2,000 speaker and it's more of the novelty

30:17 of like look at how insane this thing is and it's capable of some crazy things.

30:21 And also they're everywhere in Newark airport.

30:23 And this is another one of those things where it's like,

30:24 hey, this one's also insane for these other reasons.

30:26 And if you're a super audio nerd, you know,

30:28 you can turn it into just this subwoofer and then have a set

30:32 setup of a bunch of these you can make into a room.

30:34 But at the end of the day, most most people by volume are like, "How loud?" But

30:40 and the answer is louder than literally everything else.

30:43 I think the the benefit there is similar

30:45 to like the DVLAS in the New York airport

30:47 of like if you're a business that needs very

30:50 few small form speakers that can fill a room.

30:53 It seems kind of perfect for that.

30:55 That that price point doesn't matter as much.

30:58 That was practically our South by Southwest.

31:01 Yeah, we got a bunch of barbecue.

31:02 Dave and I had a bunch of tacos.

31:04 I went to the Blue Sky X onion party.

31:08 There was Blue Sky Twitter and the Onion Twitter X.

31:12 Ah, got him.

31:14 I went to a party that was

31:16 master but doesn't see him coming when he's doing it.

31:20 Sorry.

31:19 I went to a party that was Kentucky Derby themed and New Year's Eve themed.

31:23 I heard some of the weirdest I heard somebody went to a Turboax party.

31:26 I'm like, what are you guys doing?

31:27 What is happening?

31:29 The Don Toiver Turboax concert.

31:32 Yeah, some sci-fi stuff.

31:33 That was our Austin experience.

31:35 Now we will move on to what this podcast is usually about.

31:39 Oh, also, yeah, we just saw Tom Scott's coming back, which is exciting.

31:43 He's he's a friend.

31:44 He's been on the podcast before.

31:45 He took a a two-year hiatus from YouTube,

31:49 and he's coming back, and I'm very excited to watch everything he makes again.

31:51 Tom Scott and I have also been in an intricate dance that he didn't know about.

31:56 Uh, he wears this red uh,

31:59 Fruit of the Loom shirt that my grandpa gave me when I was

32:04 like five and that I wore to sleep every night for like 15 years.

32:08 And then I saw Tom Scott wearing the same shirt and I was like, we are the same.

32:14 So we danced together.

32:15 How did he get my shirt?

32:16 How did he get my shirt?

32:18 Anyway, he's back with a six-pack and I think we're going to take a break now.

32:24 We have actual content coming up.

32:26 I promise.

32:28 I promise.

32:30 Someone said it.

32:31 I promise.

32:31 Trivia.

32:32 Trivia.

32:32 Guys, thank you so much for mentioning the Tom Scott story because my trivia

32:36 question is about Tom Scott and it would have not made a lot of sense.

32:39 Uh, one of Tom Scott's most legendary videos

32:43 is the one where he wrote that script

32:45 and the title of the video auto updates based on how many views it has.

32:50 You're all familiar.

32:51 No one look it up

32:52 because the question is how many current views

32:55 prices right rules.

32:56 What is the title of that video?

32:58 And I'm going to hit refresh right before you guys

33:01 answer the question to make sure we have the most upto-date.

33:06 Remember this is prices right rules.

33:08 I feel like I should know this.

33:09 So closest without going over

33:11 exactly.

33:11 So guessing one would be both dumb and genius.

33:15 Closest without going.

33:16 Oh, interesting.

33:17 Guessing five would be bad.

33:18 I feel like that video spawns a bunch of other videos trying to like

33:22 growth hack their way into like

33:25 this YouTube video isn't what you think it is or like somehow it changes.

33:28 Have you seen the influx of them recently that's like

33:31 there are five YouTube videos in this video and it's somebody

33:36 makes five separate videos but then like posts it in five different screens

33:41 in it and then the audio tracks

33:42 you swap between are five different audio tracks.

33:45 So like in 2 minutes the guy in the middle if

33:48 you click audio track one is that guy talking and then

33:51 the guy like picture and picture in the side it might be

33:55 like the Japanese dub the whatever dub but all they're doing that

33:58 dub but it's all English they're just uploading something else.

34:01 So then like in the top left is a guy talking that the the mouth

34:05 doesn't match the first one but when you click like Japanese dubick

34:09 if you watch all of them you get 500% retention.

34:13 I love that.

34:13 That's and that's that's hilarious.

34:15 And also that's specifically like a a very like of the times using

34:20 the features like remember okay this is going to make me sound old.

34:24 Mystery guitar man.

34:25 Does that ring a bell?

34:25 You guys remember?

34:26 Yeah.

34:26 Remember you used to do like choose your own adventure with annotations.

34:30 So you'd watch the first minute of the video and then there'd be

34:32 like the top half annotation or the bottom half annotation and you could pick

34:35 one and it would take you to the next part and it was

34:37 a whole series of like a web of things to get to the end.

34:41 That was that was sick.

34:42 That was of the times.

34:43 Have you guys seen like the YouTube trumpets?

34:45 The YouTube

34:46 where someone uploads a video that's just like every 30 seconds it'll be like

34:49 a different note on the trumpet and then you can take the number go.

34:55 That should be forever.

34:56 That should that should work today.

34:58 I like people like utilizing the the feature sets to make weird art.

35:02 It's cool.

35:02 Love it.

35:03 All right.

35:04 Well, tell us that trivia question, Ellis.

35:06 Oh, you already did.

35:07 Yeah.

35:08 Um, we'll have to think of the number of views closest to that going over.

35:12 Answers will be at the end like usual.

35:13 We'll be right back.

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36:27 This is part two of the podcast, but this phone has three parts.

36:31 It's the Samsung Galaxy Trifold.

36:33 Damn, that was good.

36:34 Thank you.

36:35 Thought about that one last night.

36:36 Why is the trifold coming up?

36:38 Okay, so we're talking about the trifold

36:40 because reportedly Samsung is discontinuing it.

36:44 Damn, that was fast.

36:45 That was

36:45 That was That was really fast.

36:49 I want to make that a sound bite.

36:52 It was really fast.

36:53 Um, yeah, a Samsung spokesperson has told Bloomberg

36:56 that the Samsung Trifold will be getting one final restock today,

37:00 March 17th, but after that, it will be gone.

37:04 Uh, the decision reportedly comes as a result of high production costs,

37:07 which made the Trifold nearly impossible to make a profit on.

37:10 You could maybe speculate that RAM prices have a lot to do with that.

37:14 Uh, the entire supply chain is just getting insane.

37:17 And I imagine that Samsung was barely making a margin on this thing already.

37:21 It seems that now they're not even selling that many.

37:24 It's been reported that fewer than 6,000 units

37:26 were sold domestically in Korea since it launched.

37:29 And it launched in Korea before it launched here.

37:31 Korea was like the main place they were selling it.

37:33 Correct.

37:34 They did eventually launch in the United States in I believe late January or so.

37:38 But yeah, it's it was a short timeline less than 3 months for the trifold.

37:43 So, uh, Samsung did say that they are going

37:45 to trickle down the technology into future foldable devices,

37:49 but it was not mentioned about whether or not

37:51 they were going to make a trifold again,

37:53 which is kind of I'm sure they will at some point,

37:55 but you better buy it now before they're

37:58 completely sold out if you really want it.

38:00 Yeah.

38:00 Interesting thoughts on that.

38:02 One thought is that you just said is

38:03 the technology would trickle down to other folds.

38:05 I don't know what tech from the trifold is applicable to trickle

38:08 down to the other fold other than having one more screen.

38:11 Uh, you've seen probably a bunch of videos now in your soap box.

38:14 A lot of them were sponsored, but now the embargo is up uh of the Oppo Find N6,

38:18 I believe it's called, which is their no feel crease foldable.

38:23 No feel crease.

38:24 No feel crease.

38:24 So, you look at it and visually there's no crease.

38:26 And you run your finger over it and you can't really feel a crease either.

38:29 And you know, you get a fresh fold seven out the box and it looks pretty good,

38:32 but you fold it a bunch of times and you start to see that crease form.

38:36 And this one is supposed to be rated for some thousands of folds

38:39 and should never appear to have a crease that you can feel,

38:42 which is really cool.

38:43 That's a tech I'd want to, you know, trickle down to a bunch of other foldables.

38:46 Uh the trifold to me was just uh Samsung going, "Hey, what if this works?

38:51 Let's try it.

38:52 We're Samsung." And then, you know, it happened to I'm puning today.

38:56 But yeah, sometimes it doesn't work and sometimes people don't buy it.

38:58 And it's also $3,000.

39:00 It was also really really really expensive.

39:01 But I think the fact that it's not

39:02 even selling that well in its like home country, like Samsung is a lot of Korea.

39:07 Uh so if it's not selling well there Yeah.

39:10 Yeah.

39:10 They make everything.

39:11 That's like coming out with an electric

39:12 car that doesn't sell well in California.

39:14 You're like, "Well, we're cooked."

39:16 Yeah.

39:16 You can't sell well here.

39:17 It's like not selling very many avocados in California.

39:20 That's Yeah, exactly.

39:21 The best part about this was they cooked with the the subtitle

39:24 for the Verge article and just said it didn't try for very long.

39:28 TRI just weatherbed.

39:30 Kudos.

39:30 Very nice.

39:33 Damn.

39:32 Yeah.

39:32 So, again, you want to get on on that for $3,000, you be my guest.

39:36 But I think most reviews were like, it's cool,

39:39 it's interesting, and it's neat, but it's still kind of lacking.

39:43 And um yeah, we'll see in the future.

39:45 Maybe Trifold 2 is just coming out soon.

39:47 I don't think that's going to happen.

39:48 I will say Trifold is available.

39:50 It's eligible still for a smartphone award 2026 for best big phone.

39:55 It's It's just even though it only was three months of 2026.

39:59 That is kind of sad because then the awards come out and then you can't buy it.

40:02 Yep.

40:02 That would be

40:03 Have we ever had

40:04 a discontinued phone win an award?

40:06 Like Yeah.

40:06 Like come out, get discontinued and win an award.

40:09 Has anything else really been discontinued besides the Note 7?

40:12 Has the Hydrogen get discontinued before it won the award?

40:15 Okay.

40:15 The bust award doesn't count.

40:17 That makes the most

40:18 that was still available, right?

40:19 It might when I gave it the award.

40:21 Maybe.

40:21 I mean, essential got discontinued, but it was a while later.

40:26 Yeah.

40:27 Yeah.

40:26 That would be truly unprecedented times we're living in.

40:30 Yeah.

40:32 Yeah.

40:32 LG probably died mid Oh, year.

40:35 Yeah.

40:35 So, that probably means there was a phone that came out.

40:37 I mean, the Wing probably came out within a year of it LG quitting.

40:41 Oh, that's true.

40:41 Yeah.

40:42 But the Wing didn't win any

40:44 The Wing was crazy.

40:45 The Wing was pretty crazy.

40:46 It should have won all the awards.

40:47 Yeah.

40:47 Well, speaking of phones that probably won't get discontinued,

40:51 Maybe I actually had a different segue I

40:53 was going to throw to because I have Okay,

40:55 by the time you're watching this, our Nothing Phone 4a and 4a Pro reviews

40:59 or one review is out.

41:01 Um, I'm going to actually hold it.

41:02 I have the 4A Pro right here.

41:04 This is the pink one.

41:05 It's not the best looking version of this phone.

41:07 I think the monocolored versions are better.

41:11 Pinkly.

41:11 I, you know, I reviewed the phones and uh I also have this theory

41:15 because we've talked about nothing before about

41:17 why they're not doing a flagship this year.

41:19 They're not doing a Yeah, you can hold it.

41:20 They're not doing a nothing phone 4.

41:22 They're just doing a 4a.

41:25 Yeah.

41:24 And a 4a pro.

41:26 4a pro light.

41:28 Just kidding.

41:29 It's interesting.

41:29 And I think, you know, you mentioned RAM prices.

41:32 I think nothing is in a really tough spot.

41:34 Whereas a smaller company, they don't get the best costs because

41:38 their order sizes from suppliers are smaller.

41:41 And in general, they they probably spend more for all the same specs as the big,

41:45 you know, flagship companies.

41:47 They at these conditions can't really make a competitive flagship.

41:51 Last time they tried was nothing Phone 3 last year, 800 bucks.

41:54 Kind of got flamed for it.

41:56 They put a flagship chip in it, but it just wasn't,

41:58 you know, a full-on flagship, especially the camera performance.

42:01 What they do thrive at is really good mid-range phones.

42:04 These are competitive, good, well priced mid-range phones.

42:07 The Nothing Phone 4a is £349, £349.

42:11 It's really good for that price.

42:13 Triple cameras for that price.

42:15 iPhone can't say that.

42:16 Pixel can't say that.

42:17 Samsung might have a triple camera full phone at that price,

42:20 but it's like that's nice.

42:21 It's an OLED.

42:22 It's 120 Hz.

42:23 It's a Snapdragon 7s Gen 4.

42:26 It's good phone for $3.49.

42:29 And then the 4a Pro that you're holding is $500,

42:32 and it's not as great of a deal, but it's still pretty good.

42:37 So, yeah, the reviews are out.

42:38 I'm curious, you know,

42:39 now that you're holding one and looking at the 4A Pro, what you think of

42:42 Yeah.

42:42 I want to boot it up real quick and just

42:44 kind of see the the stuff again, like you said.

42:46 Um, so it's metal, so no wireless charging.

42:49 Yep.

42:49 Metal phones are sick, but no wireless charging is sad.

42:53 Yeah, I'm fine with that because like if you give me

42:54 no wireless charging in a glass back, then I'm mad.

42:57 If you're going to not give us wireless charging, then give me the premium.

43:01 Mhm.

43:01 And then I'm okay with it.

43:02 True.

43:02 The 4a does not have wireless charging.

43:04 I will miss wireless charging,

43:05 but I'm glad they at least gave you the premium other option.

43:09 Yeah.

43:09 Yeah.

43:09 Yeah.

43:10 Yeah.

43:10 I think that nothing is still doing a pretty

43:13 good job with the constraints that they had.

43:14 Like you said, the $349 one is is cooking like crazy.

43:17 I you know how on Twitter randomly some bot will

43:20 like a tweet that you made from like 10 years ago

43:22 all the time.

43:23 All the time.

43:23 So yesterday a bot liked a tweet that I had made in a thread

43:26 about the Pixel 4a when it first um came out and that phone was $349.

43:32 And I really obviously Pixel 4a is one of my favorite Pixels they ever made.

43:36 um hardware plastic very cheap.

43:41 Yep.

43:41 And I was sort of just talking about the software makes up for it, etc., etc.

43:45 This is like I mean the the nothing phone 3 4a is

43:49 sort of like the it's a much better version of that.

43:54 So it's got everything that the Pixel 4 4a had,

43:57 but you know it's more premium and in many many ways.

44:00 So, if you look like, you know, even if you add inflation into account,

44:04 we're how many years 6 years after the Pixel 4 A and we still have

44:08 this, being able to buy something like that at 349 is still an incredible deal,

44:11 especially in the universe we are currently

44:13 living in with like RAM shortages and stuff.

44:18 Yeah.

44:17 Um, so, but like you said,

44:19 it's going to come down to whether or not you actually want the extra stuff

44:22 that comes with the Pro and if you're

44:24 okay with the metal unibody versus the other designs.

44:27 Yeah.

44:27 I just find the the positioning fascinating.

44:31 I Yeah, I think it's good positioning.

44:33 I think these phones are awesome at their price point.

44:37 I don't love the pink on this as much

44:38 because inside the camera bump, it doesn't match.

44:42 Whereas the black one has a like black

44:44 interiors and the silver one has the white interiors.

44:47 This basically has the silver interiors on the camera bump.

44:50 They didn't send us a silver one, which I think is the best looking one.

44:53 It matches the best with the red accent and everything which I'm bummed about.

44:57 But there's a small example I wanted to throw

44:59 in here of Ellis talking about how like

45:02 technical versus marketing aspects and how that can kind of be confusing.

45:05 And it made me realize like sometimes with these uh briefs or like

45:09 press briefings and the briefs that they

45:11 actually send us feels like we're translators

45:14 at some point because we need to find goes from technical to marketing jargon

45:18 to us then trying to figure out the level of technical and jargon to use.

45:23 But on the 4A Pro with the glyph system, the interface, the LED interface,

45:28 glyph matrix.

45:29 The glyph matrix.

45:30 Thank you.

45:31 Um, they write it is like 50% bigger and twice as bright.

45:35 So, we are doing the script and I'm like going through it and making

45:39 sure everything's correct and and seeing what else we can add to it.

45:42 And I go, "Oh, it's bigger." The easiest way to prove that it's bigger

45:45 other than showing it is to find out how many LEDs are inside of it.

45:47 cuz they made a big deal of it being like 137 mini LEDs in here.

45:53 So I was like, cool, the old one must be less.

45:56 And then I keep getting this that the Nothing 3

45:58 has 489 microLEDDs while this has 137 miniLEDDs but is bigger.

46:05 So their way of of saying this is, oh,

46:08 this is physically bigger but also way worse resolutions.

46:12 But we're not going to we're not going to say it has less pixels in it.

46:15 Yeah.

46:15 They'll never say that in the press release.

46:18 Truthfully, I don't think it matters.

46:19 I think it gets the point across in there.

46:20 I don't think you need cuz the resolution

46:22 still looks terrible on the 489 pixel one.

46:25 Yeah, but that's an example of those.

46:28 499 is still a very good price for a phone like this.

46:30 I just have I have beef the higher they go up in the range and I think

46:32 that would have it would have toppled with a pro

46:35 phone or with a like a flagship phone.

46:37 So, like the 349 nothing 4a is a great

46:39 deal and a really good phone for the price.

46:41 You're spending theoretically $150 more dollars for this pro phone.

46:45 All you're getting honestly is the aluminum build.

46:48 Yeah.

46:49 And the glyph matrix.

46:50 You know, the screens are almost the same.

46:52 They're a tiny bit bigger.

46:54 The pixel density is almost the same.

46:55 The brightness is almost the same.

46:56 The cameras are almost the same.

46:58 The same chipset.

46:59 The chipset goes from a Snapdragon 7S Gen 4 to a Snapdragon 7 Gen 4.

47:04 The RAM is the same.

47:05 The storage is the same.

47:06 It's like almost the same phone.

47:08 Pro features, I'm like, "Oh, it's the Pro.

47:10 Maybe there's some camera features or there's some

47:11 pro things that are enabled by the software.

47:14 I think it's just HDR video on the Pro and 140x zoom instead of 70x zoom

47:19 world's first which is just crop.

47:22 So here the 150 bucks up to the 4a pro is like now it's a decent value.

47:27 If they tried to go all that was a shutter sound.

47:30 Yeah.

47:30 If they tried to go all the way up,

47:32 I think to a flagship $8900 phone and put a Snapdragon 8s Gen 5 or whatever

47:37 in there and tried to go 12 gigs of RAM and all this other stuff,

47:40 high-end storage, high-end screen, high-end cameras,

47:44 they would be looking at their thinnest margins and their least

47:47 competitive phone and so they just didn't do it.

47:49 There is one thing you get with the 4A Pro versus

47:53 the 4A, which is the ability to purchase it in the United States.

47:56 The 4A is not coming to the US.

47:58 Ah, which is too bad because it's a better deal.

48:03 Yeah, I guess the other thing is just design.

48:06 Yeah, you might like this design with the metal body better.

48:07 I

48:09 kind of do in the silver version.

48:10 And the silver looks really cool.

48:11 Yeah.

48:12 You think this is louder?

48:12 Yes.

48:13 I think this is less loud than the 4.

48:15 The 4A still has all of the like designs and everything going

48:19 through it where this is like keeping it up into just this pill.

48:22 The bean or whatever.

48:24 This is the plateau.

48:24 That's the bean.

48:25 The bean's the camera.

48:26 But I'm talking about the 4A.

48:27 Oh, yeah.

48:28 The 4A is just one big bean.

48:30 Yes.

48:32 Yeah.

48:31 I think that is more subtle overall.

48:33 I understand like they've got the clear back and everything,

48:36 but the bean itself, I think, is more subtle.

48:39 I think we should call it the pill, not the bean.

48:41 Speaking of weird marketing terms to use for tech products,

48:45 did you guys know that the AirPods Max top headband is called the Canopy?

48:50 What?

48:51 That actually makes a lot of sense.

48:53 the most thing I have ever heard.

48:57 What makes sense am I hate it so much?

48:58 I only know this because I only know this because

49:00 they just came out with the AirPods Max 2 news of the week.

49:06 Yeah.

49:05 Uh very quietly announced with a press release in the Apple newsroom.

49:09 It has an H2 chip in there and new amplifiers.

49:12 And that's kind of all you need to know.

49:14 Wait, it doesn't even have a new canopy.

49:16 It It's the Well, it's new colors, I guess.

49:18 Um but physically on the outside, it's the same.

49:21 There's no new onoff switch.

49:22 There's no new case.

49:23 All of the normal AirPods Max things at all.

49:26 Yeah.

49:26 All the normal AirPods Max form factor stuff still there,

49:29 but new amplifiers and H2 chip,

49:31 potentially better sound,

49:32 but also one and a half times stronger active noise cancellation.

49:36 And then a couple, you know,

49:38 interesting computational features like uh studio quality mics allegedly.

49:43 I you should not conversational awareness or uh voice

49:48 isolation when you're on a phone call, stuff like that.

49:50 That's what the chip is doing.

49:51 Well, if you can record an album using AirPods Max as the microphone,

49:55 then I will be sold.

49:56 But

49:56 again, Apple is in pure marketing land with these these terms.

50:00 Um, but yes, the top of the AirPods Max is officially called the Canopy.

50:04 So, if you ever want to refer to that top piece, that's what that is.

50:06 David, why would you give them that idea?

50:08 They're going to release an album now.

50:11 That's a studio video right there.

50:13 Studio quality.

50:13 Yeah.

50:14 church.

50:14 It's funny cuz Apple does make some products that are

50:16 genuinely like professionally used all the time and they can go,

50:20 "Hey, here's an album that was made and mixed

50:22 on a MacBook Pro with their speakers and you be like,

50:24 "That's crazy, but I guess someone could do that." But then

50:27 there's like the studio quality microphones on the iMac and you're like,

50:32 they're no studio has ever used these microphones.

50:34 Studio quality is a stretch is a stretch.

50:36 I do I do think you can kind of record a you

50:38 could record a podcast with the MacBook microphones and it sounds okay.

50:41 Yep.

50:42 Um I think many people have glare.

50:44 I mean not we wouldn't out there.

50:47 There's a chance it sounds better than quite a few of them.

50:50 But yeah.

50:50 Yeah.

50:51 Well they they sort of updated it with a lot

50:52 of the things that the AirPods Pro 3 got.

50:55 Um I think that's the reason that they wanted to do

50:57 it because the AirPods Pro 3 were technically better in multiple ways.

51:00 Yeah.

51:01 Like you're able to answer calls by nodding

51:03 and reject them by shaking your head.

51:04 They added that.

51:05 They added the game mode that reduces the wireless

51:08 latency if you want to use them for gaming.

51:10 So they added that.

51:11 They now have a camera remote feature on the on the digital crown or the crown

51:17 where you can like press it and it will

51:18 take a photo with your iPhone or your iPad.

51:20 That's what I was really waiting to upgrade for.

51:22 I I was just thinking like this is for selfies generally

51:26 and then you have to be wearing AirPods Max in your cell phone.

51:31 Yeah.

51:30 Which is exactly what Apple marketing wants.

51:32 The thing that's weird about that is like I'm not mad that they added a feature.

51:36 It doesn't take away.

51:36 I can't get mad at it.

51:37 But in order to use that, you generally would

51:40 need a camera shutter remote for like a group photo.

51:43 So that means you either are in the group photo

51:46 holding your AirPods Max or you have it on while the rest of the people

51:50 in your group don't and then you just

51:53 for Apple to like get more AirPods Max and photos.

51:56 I got to see if you can do use this feature while they're not on your head.

51:59 That's a great question cuz they don't they just

52:01 turn off if you don't have them on your head.

52:02 Typically they just stop.

52:03 I I would be so funny if you could only use them while they're on your head.

52:08 They they don't they don't turn off.

52:09 There's no off button.

52:10 Even if you're holding them, that's weird.

52:11 You're still holding a pair of air pads.

52:13 Yeah, I would I would hold them in my hand and like put them behind my back

52:16 and then and take a picture like

52:17 this in the group with the crown behind my back.

52:20 I hit the button.

52:21 David, the I forgot that they go to the sleep

52:23 mode and you take them off your head.

52:24 That makes the recording a an album with them

52:26 even funnier because you'd have to like stick your head in the bass drum of the

52:32 like in a recording you have to like literally

52:34 put your head right next to the guitar amp like

52:36 oh yeah true this might be a studio

52:38 par that's basically what Vision Pro does when you're

52:40 taking video of Vision Pro you have to go

52:41 oh yeah yeah someone's got to do a like taking Apple ads literally

52:46 like oh this is a studio quality microphone okay and just

52:48 put their head up against the guitar that would be really funny

52:51 uh there's now a personalized volume feature that automatically

52:54 fine-tunes volume based on your preferences over time,

52:57 which I believe means like it analyzes how loud you're

53:01 listening to music on a like long period of time,

53:04 so it's just always going to be maxed out.

53:07 No, you know why that's fine?

53:07 Because there's no number associated with it.

53:10 No, that's not fine.

53:11 That's not fine.

53:12 That's like my worst nightmare.

53:13 Wait, Ellis, I just was Do you also hate the FE

53:16 I would love your thoughts on the future of like

53:18 you know how some cars when you get up to a certain

53:20 speed will automatically increase the music volume while you're driving?

53:24 This feels like that, doesn't it?

53:26 You know, to me that feature I've always had a problem with.

53:29 Not on a uh audio level,

53:32 but on like a that it feels like it encourages you to drive like a maniac.

53:36 Like you drive faster so the music gets louder, so you drive faster so the music

53:41 Sorry, officer.

53:41 The volume was just too low.

53:43 But like my I like I want my headphone I want to learn my headphones.

53:48 I don't want my headphones to learn me so that I

53:50 can interpret everything coming out of headphones cuz I would love

53:55 to be able to use AirPod Max for work.

53:58 Like I would love it.

53:59 I think all of these features are designed for the opposite.

54:01 No, I know they sound I think they sound good

54:04 enough to do a decent amount of professional audio work on.

54:07 And the idea of having one headphone that I have

54:10 like a listen mode and I know what things like music

54:12 and podcast sound like on it and then I can

54:13 go and work on them and like work as a reference,

54:16 but they're such a black box as far

54:18 as their processing that I would not be able to trust

54:22 anything that comes out of them.

54:24 They should have a studio mode.

54:28 Yes,

54:27 that's a free idea for Apple.

54:28 Yeah,

54:29 because you know that there are people who are trying to use

54:32 these for that exact application and because of all this computing,

54:36 it's not ideal for that.

54:37 But if there was just a studio button,

54:39 wait, question.

54:42 Yeah.

54:40 If you used the USBC adapter to 3.5 mm

54:44 cable and plugged it in for the lossless quality,

54:48 does that still have the personal

54:50 You got You got to get your facts straight, bucko,

54:52 because the 3 the USBC to 3.5 mm does not support lossless.

54:56 Only C to C, right?

54:57 Only C to C supports live.

54:58 Yeah.

54:58 Yeah.

54:59 To C.

54:59 Okay.

54:59 So, if you use the C to C for for whatever reason.

55:03 Um, does that would that be the studio mode?

55:08 No,

55:07 it would be a nice like trigger to give you the button processing.

55:12 It's still doing all the Yeah.

55:13 Yeah.

55:13 I think I think I think all the processing happens on the H2 chip, which Yeah.

55:19 Yeah.

55:19 So, that's a free idea for Jaws or whoever

55:21 is watching the pod right now from Apple.

55:22 I was waiting to see how long it would

55:24 take for someone to be like and they support lossless.

55:27 It is funny that they waited till now to call

55:30 it two because they released the updated AirPods Max with USBC.

55:34 That was and that technically added the like lossless via USBC.

55:38 It's

55:38 and they changed the colors a little bit

55:39 and they changed the colors.

55:41 Now they changed the chip and now it's two.

55:44 Yeah.

55:43 I don't really know why that makes it two.

55:46 That one's called Gen One.

55:48 It's still Gen One with USBC.

55:50 Gen one with USBC.

55:51 AirPods Max, then AirPods Max with the OBC, and then

55:54 now AirPods Max 2.

55:55 I'm I'm excited for him.

55:57 I know I know we're not generally AirPods Max

55:59 like lovers in this room, but I just think after you uh after your rant,

56:04 I did I did fly to Southby with my AirPods Max instead of the Sony's.

56:08 They sound phenomenal.

56:10 Yeah, they're fantastic.

56:11 They sound phenomenal.

56:12 They're awesome for flying.

56:13 And I'm excited to hear what one and a half times stronger ANC sounds like.

56:16 Me, too.

56:17 Probably not that.

56:17 But they don't wish they folded.

56:19 Yeah, I wish I didn't have to take up my entire backpack.

56:22 I wish they were nice to use.

56:24 That's like a crazy thing to say about a $500 pair of shoes.

56:27 I just wish they did any of the things I wanted.

56:29 They have made their

56:30 Andrew 550.

56:32 It is quite like crazy and kind of ironic

56:34 that such a simple design has become so like iconic.

56:38 Like I see them all over Brooklyn.

56:41 People run with these things which is insane to me cuz they're so heavy.

56:44 That's insane.

56:45 They're not meant for that.

56:46 Don't do that.

56:46 The canopy can't support them.

56:48 That's why I say they're perfect for flying because it's perfect for flying

56:51 because they weigh so much that you just lean your head back

56:54 because you're on a plane and they have so awesome and they're

56:58 heavy and it doesn't matter and the canopy sits nicely on your head.

57:01 Apple really likes to make things that are really bad for your neck.

57:04 The Vision Pro.

57:05 Yeah, man.

57:06 You use these with the Vision Pro.

57:07 You F1 drivers.

57:08 Oh my god.

57:09 Have you guys seen the crazy like suite

57:12 of third party accessories that exist now for dude in New York?

57:16 Cuz David's right.

57:17 Like I see AirPods Max all the time in New York and so

57:20 like there are all sorts of like clear/opaque covers you can get

57:26 and like sticker packs and like I've seen I've seen people you can

57:30 get attachable cat ears for the canopy

57:33 like people really like like personalize them.

57:37 Mhm.

57:37 Razor's been all over that for years.

57:39 God the cat ears.

57:40 I have seen that.

57:41 They're still 550.

57:43 Yeah.

57:43 Still really expensive.

57:44 You could buy this or you could buy MacO.

57:46 truly.

57:47 Oh my god.

57:48 This was one of my favorite takes on Twitter

57:51 was that seeing MacBook Neo and AirPods Max next

57:56 to each other in the same store is truly

57:58 like those are the opposite approach to a product.

58:03 Like MacBook Neo is going as low as possible in price

58:07 to essentially maximize your chances of customer acquisition in like the masses.

58:13 And then hopefully that gets the people into like

58:16 buying Apple services and buying other Apple products.

58:18 And that's the like Trojan horse of like, all right, now I'm an Apple guy.

58:21 MacBook Neo is their YouTube shorts for discovery.

58:24 Yeah, it's a big funnel.

58:26 But AirPods Max are the exact opposite.

58:29 It's like these are you're not going to get these as your first Apple product.

58:36 I Wait, can I tell a recommending MacBook Neo story that happened yesterday?

58:40 Yeah.

58:40 Because I feel like, you know, like I someone was like,

58:44 "Oh, you're it was my it was actually really funny.

58:46 It was one of my doctors.

58:47 We were in the middle of an appointment." She was like,

58:48 "By the way, like tech guy, like I've had this happen.

58:50 Should I get the Neo?" And I was like, "I don't know.

58:53 Like, probably.

58:55 Like, unless you're doing anything, you know,

58:57 you do you make Tik Toks on the side like Dr.

58:59 Tik Toks?" And she was like, "No, no, no." She's like, "To be honest,

59:02 I'm less worried about the computer doing

59:03 stuff and I'm more worried about like switching

59:06 to to Mac from Windows because I've just

59:08 always been a Windows person." And I was like,

59:10 you know, it's kind of cool switching to Mac.

59:11 Like if you have an iPhone,

59:12 like you'll get your texts on your computer and stuff.

59:14 And she was like, you'll get your texts on your computer.

59:16 And I was like, you need to Oh my god.

59:19 Like you, this is who it's this is who it's funny.

59:22 That is funny.

59:23 Well, there are new colors as we mentioned.

59:26 There's midnight, which is gray.

59:27 There's starlight, which is gray.

59:28 I'm just kidding.

59:29 There's starlight, which is gold.

59:31 There's orange, which is orange, but it's kind of burnt.

59:34 There's purple, which is lilac.

59:35 And there's blue, which is sky blue.

59:38 My favorite part is that you can mix and match these ear cups.

59:42 Like the ear cups just pop off so easily, which is like great for long.

59:45 And now there are so many colors of AirPods

59:47 Max ear cups that you could just go crazy.

59:49 They all work with each other.

59:50 Yeah.

59:53 Yeah.

59:51 Now you can have $700 headphones.

59:55 One more quick Apple story before we take it to break.

59:57 Um, you guys might not know this, the listeners of this podcast,

1:00:01 unless you are a content creator, but Motion VFX,

1:00:04 which is a plug-in suite that basically

1:00:06 sells really nice plugins for Final Cut Pro,

1:00:09 Da Vinci Resolve, and Premiere Pro, we use extensively at the office.

1:00:13 We use so many of these.

1:00:15 Marquez has been using the M blueprint plugin since the beginning of time,

1:00:20 since the dinosaurs.

1:00:21 It's true.

1:00:22 It's very true.

1:00:23 And uh they got acquired by Apple yesterday.

1:00:28 Yeah.

1:00:27 Which um we don't really know how

1:00:29 to feel about because Apple obviously makes Final

1:00:32 Cut Pro and this company makes very good

1:00:34 plugins for Da Vinci Resolve and Premiere Pro.

1:00:37 Theyark has a lot of money.

1:00:39 We do have an M KBHD plugin.

1:00:41 I was going to say I've been using them for so long that I actually

1:00:43 they noticed that I've been using them for so long and they were like what

1:00:46 if we collabed on an MKBHD plugin where we have like a bunch of your mostused

1:00:50 stuff and then some other custom stuff and we were like oh yeah that's awesome.

1:00:53 So, we made an MKBHD plugin in the Motion VFX suite.

1:00:58 Yeah.

1:00:59 Um, Apple also acquired all of that.

1:01:01 They get that, too.

1:01:02 That's a weird.

1:01:04 Yeah.

1:01:04 Yeah.

1:01:04 Apple owns our dad.

1:01:06 Yeah.

1:01:06 So, I I'm assuming they're going to do the Dark Sky thing

1:01:09 where unfortunately they're going to stop

1:01:11 supporting Da Vinci Resolve and Premiere, right?

1:01:15 I reached out to them and they didn't reply.

1:01:16 So, I don't know.

1:01:18 They will.

1:01:18 Yeah.

1:01:18 The second they bought Dark Sky, it was no longer available on Android.

1:01:21 And I just feel like that's the f first thing

1:01:24 they're gonna do is like make this plug-in suite Apple only.

1:01:27 I could see them

1:01:29 still supporting the existing plugins but not making new ones for

1:01:34 Didn't they kill Dark Sky altogether too

1:01:36 eventually?

1:01:36 Yes, they at first going to be a Final Cut feature.

1:01:40 Every single plugin just integrated into Final Cut.

1:01:42 Okay, here's Yeah, this is how I this is how I forecast it going.

1:01:45 And I'm bad at predicting the future, but this is

1:01:47 like the weather app.

1:01:47 Yeah.

1:01:48 Well, this is how I think it will go based on how past things have gone.

1:01:51 Number one, they buy it.

1:01:52 So number two, now they pull support for Da Vinci

1:01:55 Resolve and Premiere and it's just available for Final Cut.

1:01:58 And then eventually in some year and a half down the road version of Final Cut,

1:02:02 we'll start to see stuff from Motion VFX built into Final Cut Pro.

1:02:07 And then they eventually just sunset Motion VFX and then it is what it is.

1:02:11 All the plugins that I've been buying for years will eventually

1:02:14 kind of like my Dark Side subscription just be wasted money.

1:02:17 And ideally, a lot of that stuff gets pulled in and becomes

1:02:21 a reason for people to use Final Cut because that's what Apple wants.

1:02:24 That's ideally for Final Cut, not for everyone else.

1:02:27 Yeah, that's ideal for I don't know if they're going to pull it into Final Cut.

1:02:30 I feel like they're just going to make it its own

1:02:31 separate thing in the Creator Studio to subscribe to the creator app.

1:02:37 That's a good

1:02:37 That'd be crazy.

1:02:38 That'd be insane value.

1:02:41 Yeah.

1:02:40 I mean, each of those plugins are like

1:02:43 Stop.

1:02:43 Yeah.

1:02:44 Well, each of those plugins are like $80.

1:02:46 They're not cheap.

1:02:47 There's a lot of and they come like when you buy one plugin it

1:02:50 comes with a ton of different plugins inside of it.

1:02:54 But that like the motion VFX plugins have like

1:02:57 the YouTuber industry like kind of on locked in.

1:03:01 Yeah.

1:03:01 Unless you want to start building your own

1:03:02 stuff or like if you know After Effects,

1:03:04 if you have a Michael who's just amazing at graphics.

1:03:07 There's also Motion Array, but Motion Array is not good.

1:03:09 Like their stuff has never been that good.

1:03:10 Yeah.

1:03:11 Motion Motion is just not good.

1:03:13 Apple Motion is terrible.

1:03:14 Yes.

1:03:14 Yeah.

1:03:15 I I use the MKBHD plugins all the time.

1:03:17 I mean, there's Pix like there's Pixelmator, you know,

1:03:20 like they bought Pixelmator and it's still a dedicated app

1:03:23 that got put into the education bundle, right?

1:03:25 Yeah, that's in the bundle.

1:03:26 Creative bundle.

1:03:28 Yeah, the creator one or the creator one?

1:03:30 Creative.

1:03:29 I mean educated.

1:03:31 Oh my god, I can't speak.

1:03:32 Education one or the creator one studio.

1:03:36 Pixelmator was already just an Mac.

1:03:39 Mac app though.

1:03:40 So, this is weirder because now we're potentially losing like Dark Sky,

1:03:44 losing the other platforms, which sucks.

1:03:46 But, um,

1:03:46 we're just speculating, though.

1:03:47 Yeah.

1:03:47 The funniest thing kind of about this is

1:03:50 Marquez tweets about Final Cut crashing all the time,

1:03:52 and Apple loves to be like, "We tried to recreate all these things and we're

1:03:56 just seeing no problems." Little do they know,

1:03:58 Motion VFX and Final Cut

1:04:00 hate each other.

1:04:02 Yeah.

1:04:02 Yeah.

1:04:02 Seems to hate each other a lot.

1:04:03 Like, it works great.

1:04:04 We still love motion VFX,

1:04:06 but the majority of the time Final Cut Crash is just like a plugin.

1:04:09 Yeah.

1:04:10 Like right when the playhead gets there.

1:04:11 It's like when your dad marries your bully's

1:04:13 mom and now you guys are stepdaughters.

1:04:16 But like I feel like every time you tweet

1:04:19 about that, someone from Apple's like, "What's going on?

1:04:21 What's going on?" And now they're going to buy

1:04:23 it and start using it and be like,

1:04:24 "Oh my god, people work like this.

1:04:26 They're going to crash all the time.

1:04:28 They're going to learn real quick." Yeah.

1:04:29 I think most of probably most of my bugs for the last

1:04:32 couple years I've used Final Cut are not actually a Final Cut bug.

1:04:35 They are a plugin with Final Cut.

1:04:38 I shoot Red.

1:04:40 There's the RED plugin.

1:04:42 That plugin is has caused many crashes.

1:04:44 There's the Motion VFX plugins.

1:04:46 Those have caused many crashes.

1:04:47 So over the years, every time I'll have like a really frustrating edit

1:04:50 with Final Cut because it starts crashing over and over and I tweet about it,

1:04:53 the Final Cut team reaches out and they're like,

1:04:55 "What's going on with Final Cut?" and I'll send them the logs and they're like,

1:04:58 "Yeah, maybe disable that plugin and see

1:05:01 if it still happens." And then it's fine.

1:05:02 It's like when using Windows cuz your your Nvidia display

1:05:06 driver crashes on your HP Omen laptop powered by Asus RAM.

1:05:10 You such a good segue.

1:05:11 There's just unfortunately a trivia break in between.

1:05:14 Oh, so hold that thought.

1:05:17 Let's do trivia.

1:05:18 That was good though.

1:05:18 That was good.

1:05:19 Okay, question number two.

1:05:22 So, Apple's high-speed event announced such

1:05:25 classics as MagSafe and HomePod Mini.

1:05:31 Dang.

1:05:30 What year was that event?

1:05:34 Highspeed.

1:05:33 Mag Safe.

1:05:34 I know.

1:05:35 I know.

1:05:35 Mag Safe and HomePod Mini.

1:05:39 Um,

1:05:38 are we doing Delta or Price is Right.

1:05:42 Guild

1:05:41 this one.

1:05:42 I think let's do Delta.

1:05:43 Let's do Delta.

1:05:45 United.

1:05:45 Do you know what I found the other day?

1:05:48 Not totally related to this, but kind of rel.

1:05:50 We have that one butcher block.

1:05:52 And do you remember when the original HomePods used to stain

1:05:55 wood when you left it on it for too long?

1:05:57 We still have this butcher block that just has a white circle

1:05:59 on it because we left a HomePod on it for like 24 hours.

1:06:02 Not even that long.

1:06:04 The like the rubberized bottom just straight up stained wood.

1:06:08 That's a That's a How did they not even test this?

1:06:11 Yeah.

1:06:11 Yeah.

1:06:12 All right, we'll take it to break and come back.

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1:07:41 Another thing that happened this week was

1:07:42 Nvidia's annual GTC conference in San Francisco.

1:07:46 They sometimes reveal new graphics cards.

1:07:48 They sometimes, actually all the time, reveal new AI.

1:07:52 This year they revealed new AI as usual.

1:07:55 So there is a thing that Nvidia has been

1:07:57 doing for quite a few years now called DLSS.

1:08:00 It's deep learning super sampling.

1:08:02 back when AI was called deep learning.

1:08:04 Uh they have their new version which is DLSS 5 which is the thing

1:08:09 that has been getting the most uh chatter in the last couple of days.

1:08:14 Yeah.

1:08:13 And the reason for this is because what DLSS usually does is it sort

1:08:18 of upscales content that doesn't actually have

1:08:21 to be rendered by the graphics card.

1:08:22 It's like AI models that do upscaling.

1:08:26 This year they kind of took it to the next I don't know if you want

1:08:29 to say next level or if like a whole

1:08:31 another level entirely because basically what this is

1:08:34 doing is it is looking at the pixels

1:08:38 and then it's generating texture maps that are

1:08:40 anchored to the scenes content to make it

1:08:42 look higher resolution while not taking more processing power.

1:08:45 The reason people are making memes about this is

1:08:48 because it's basically doing like generative texture mapping

1:08:52 to a lot of the stuff and a lot

1:08:54 of the resulting images kind of just look like they

1:08:58 it's almost this uncanny valley thing

1:09:01 where they they almost look like real people but it's

1:09:03 like that it's that close off that it feels awkward

1:09:07 and the sharpening and the the contrast are just way up on everything.

1:09:11 All the jackets look like really really contrasty and sharpened.

1:09:15 Clarity slider.

1:09:16 The clarity slider so high up.

1:09:19 It's like this the the spiritual clarity cuz I just

1:09:22 feel like a lot of them are like well a lot

1:09:24 of them it's like it's like this is an old

1:09:27 person so let's make them look as old as possible.

1:09:30 Yeah.

1:09:30 Yeah.

1:09:31 Yeah.

1:09:32 Yeah.

1:09:32 I'm looking at I'm watching the side by side video

1:09:34 right now and each time they do the side by side.

1:09:37 Every little bit of micro it's literally like turning the clarity slider up.

1:09:40 Like every bit of micro texture turns into like very visible texture.

1:09:45 And so if you have a person that has a little bit of wrinkles

1:09:48 the Hogwarts Legacy one adds a lot of wrinkles.

1:09:51 It also was a little annoying because it it kind of like reminded me a little

1:09:54 bit of HDR almost where some of the stuff

1:09:57 the shadows just get completely pulled up.

1:09:59 Yeah, it's like they just get rid of shadows and they add detail,

1:10:02 but it's like that didn't need to be there.

1:10:03 Like why do I need to see the background characters t-shirt, you know?

1:10:08 Yeah.

1:10:08 This is also getting a lot of flack

1:10:09 because they showed some demos with like Resident Evil,

1:10:11 which they always like to use Resident Evil for their demos.

1:10:14 And a lot of people were saying that the DLSS 5 off

1:10:18 uh image was like not even what it looks like in game.

1:10:20 It's actually way higher quality than the off image that they showed.

1:10:24 So people were speculating that they down quality like made

1:10:27 the quality lower just so it could look like a bigger difference.

1:10:31 Um so there was some drama around that.

1:10:33 The biggest question mark as with most AI features just becomes like if

1:10:39 you are letting the graphics card use deep learning to create textures for you.

1:10:44 How much of that gets taken away from the original artists?

1:10:48 You know that's like the question.

1:10:50 And Nvidia says like it's different

1:10:52 in that when it generates these textures and stuff,

1:10:54 they get rooted to the actual model.

1:10:56 So it's not like it's generating like

1:10:58 the scenes dynamically and changing everything dynamically.

1:11:02 But and there are some sliders that the the developers are going

1:11:05 to be able to use for how much shading they want on certain things,

1:11:09 how much like light they want on certain things,

1:11:11 the way that the texture is going to look.

1:11:14 Mhm.

1:11:15 Um but yeah, just one of those kind of like moral quandries

1:11:18 where everyone's a little bit a little bit weirded out by this.

1:11:21 I have a maybe a stupid question.

1:11:23 That's okay.

1:11:24 I guess if the idea is the this technology and these models

1:11:28 are individually on your GPU analyzing the scene and upscaling,

1:11:32 not upscaling, but like doing the improvement to quality.

1:11:35 Yeah.

1:11:35 Does that mean that theoretically everyone could look at the same exact

1:11:39 map or have the same exact thing they're doing in a game,

1:11:42 but it could look slightly different?

1:11:44 I don't know.

1:11:45 That is something that I will have to investigate.

1:11:48 Um, yeah, it's possible.

1:11:50 I mean, just generative and but it's taking the exact Oh, yeah.

1:11:54 I guess it's generative.

1:11:55 Like they have sl They said that the developer has some sliders,

1:11:57 but I don't know how control over the actual text resulting textures.

1:12:02 the developer would send the game out to everyone.

1:12:05 So, everyone should have the exact same game.

1:12:06 So, it should be source material.

1:12:08 You'd think it would be taking the same

1:12:09 source material and doing it exactly the same.

1:12:12 But, I guess a lot of generative stuff is random.

1:12:14 But yeah, it's based on like noise which will have a different

1:12:16 se but also remember a few weeks ago I was like, yo, how how does DLSS work?

1:12:20 This this blows my mind.

1:12:21 And then a bunch of people emailed me and I I still don't understand.

1:12:25 It's Yeah, I feel like Nvidia has this weird

1:12:27 thing where wherever they release something really good,

1:12:29 the way I find out is by a bunch of memes on online.

1:12:33 It's like that's how I know something huge in Nvidia just happened.

1:12:37 Yeah, that's actually valid.

1:12:38 Same.

1:12:38 Yeah.

1:12:38 Well, they they need to do that because if Nvidia

1:12:42 drops something that isn't the greatest thing in the world,

1:12:44 the entire US economy crashes.

1:12:46 That's also true.

1:12:47 The bubble will die.

1:12:48 Yeah.

1:12:48 Yeah.

1:12:49 And then Oh my god.

1:12:50 Yeah.

1:12:50 There was a big rumor that at this event they were going

1:12:52 to launch their own ARMbased consumer PC chips, the N1 and the N1X.

1:12:57 Um, that did not come out at this conference yet.

1:13:01 It could also drop at the very last minute because it's still going on.

1:13:03 It probably won't though.

1:13:04 And that would be very interesting because then they would

1:13:06 be competing with Snapdragon and Intel and all these things.

1:13:10 But um, Nvidia as they are invested

1:13:14 in many companies are also heavily invested in Intel.

1:13:16 So, that's kind of like a weird um weird little collaboration there.

1:13:20 Anyways, these will be available on RTX50 series GPUs uh in the fall,

1:13:26 and I guess we'll be able to see how

1:13:28 either terrible or good it actually is once that happens.

1:13:32 Speaking of gaming, really quickly,

1:13:34 there is this new split mouse thing that starts as a regular mouse.

1:13:39 I actually I could have used this this weekend cuz

1:13:41 Ellis and I had a 4-hour delay at the airport

1:13:43 and I wanted to play Dota and didn't have

1:13:44 a mouse and we walked all around the airport

1:13:47 for like an hour and I found one mouse

1:13:49 that's probably 30 years old and it was $30 and I did not buy it and I used

1:13:52 my trackpad and it was a horrible experience playing Dota 2.

1:13:56 Uh anyway, this mouse looks like a regular kind of travel mouse and then you

1:14:00 can split it in half and then it's like these Switch style uh game pads.

1:14:05 Is this real?

1:14:05 Oh, it's pre-ordered.

1:14:06 It's a It's Kickstarter.

1:14:07 I think it's called the Pixel Paw.

1:14:09 It's if you for audio listeners,

1:14:11 if you imagine just a black a regular black mouse,

1:14:14 two buttons, you'll notice there's no scroll wheel

1:14:17 because that split between the buttons follows the entire

1:14:21 length of the mouse because that's where it literally just snaps in half

1:14:25 and now you have a full game console split like Joy-Con controllers.

1:14:29 There's no scroll wheel because it wouldn't make sense.

1:14:32 Um, so annoying.

1:14:33 Left side you have your joystick and D-pad.

1:14:35 Right side you have uh ABXY and another sparkle emoji button.

1:14:39 What does that do?

1:14:41 AI button.

1:14:42 It's on both of them.

1:14:44 Um, this is, you know, it's Bluetooth and dongle support,

1:14:48 72 hours of battery life, th000 Hz pulling rate.

1:14:50 I can't believe this thing, well, it's not real yet, so whatever.

1:14:54 This has a 1000 Hz pulling rate, but the Logitech MXM 4 does not.

1:14:58 Uh, multi-device pairing.

1:15:00 What's funny is the render of this looks awesome,

1:15:01 but then the videos they actually post,

1:15:03 the texture of the mouse looks very 3D printed.

1:15:07 So, I'm not quite sure how far along they are.

1:15:10 I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, but

1:15:12 this imagery makes me really nervous.

1:15:13 The imagery kind of makes me nervous.

1:15:15 Watching out for me.

1:15:16 Yeah, the It's a really cool design.

1:15:18 I don't It doesn't look like the most comfortable mouse in the world.

1:15:20 It has these really big like pieces on the back

1:15:24 where the back of your palm almost wrist would sit.

1:15:27 And I don't know if that feels nice or not.

1:15:29 I am annoyed by the lack of scroll wheel.

1:15:31 That's pretty annoying.

1:15:32 No scroll wheel kind of feels like a dealbreaker

1:15:34 cuz whether you're just productivity or playing games,

1:15:37 scroll wheel almost always does something really important to what you're doing.

1:15:42 Totally.

1:15:42 Um, so that kind of sticks, but it could,

1:15:44 you know, it's Bluetooth and has a dongle.

1:15:46 It can connect to a bunch of different

1:15:47 things and just be a straightup controller, which is kind of neat.

1:15:50 Maybe if you're using Steam Deck as like uh like bringing a Steam Deck around,

1:15:55 it might be kind of cool for different types

1:15:57 of games that work better with a mouse or a controller.

1:15:59 Yeah.

1:15:59 And if you could pair this to a Switch 2, it would also make a lot of sense.

1:16:03 Yeah.

1:16:03 Nintendo Switch, too.

1:16:04 But real quick, since we're talking about mice,

1:16:06 I got a new mouse recently that I think is kind of neat.

1:16:09 So, I'll talk about it as fast as possible.

1:16:11 What's his name?

1:16:13 Um Herbert Stewart.

1:16:16 Little.

1:16:16 He's a little boy.

1:16:17 Um, his name is Pwnage.

1:16:21 This is a company where I'm not I do not love their name,

1:16:24 but 2008 I do like a lot of their products.

1:16:27 I've talked about see the target demographic.

1:16:28 Yeah, exactly.

1:16:29 This is very obviously a gaming mouse.

1:16:31 They do make also one of my favorite Hall effect keyboards.

1:16:34 Um, but this is the Sim 3.

1:16:36 They make a bunch of mice and what

1:16:38 they do really cool is they're like ultra customizable.

1:16:41 I brought it here.

1:16:43 Essentially what this is is it's a gaming mouse

1:16:45 that has kind of all the specs you would ever want.

1:16:47 Up to 8,000 hertz pulling rate, 200 hours of battery life, 50 g without holes.

1:16:54 Uh kind of the the ideal mouse,

1:16:56 but the problem with a mouse is no matter how good all the specs are,

1:17:01 it comes down to feel.

1:17:03 And it's really hard to tell how a mouse feels by the internet.

1:17:06 Sometimes you just have to buy a couple of them to see.

1:17:08 This is super customizable with almost no tools.

1:17:12 You can just pop the back off and have

1:17:15 different colors and sizes of where your palm raises.

1:17:19 So it can like pump up more.

1:17:20 It can go down more.

1:17:22 Reminds me of there also each button can really easily just pop right off.

1:17:28 Dang.

1:17:28 So now you can do different colors.

1:17:29 You can have different size indents in each mouse button without them.

1:17:33 Different sizes.

1:17:34 See the body?

1:17:36 Yes.

1:17:35 And does it have JoyCons inside?

1:17:37 No.

1:17:37 But it does have with a little uh tool.

1:17:41 This is the only thing you need a tool for.

1:17:43 This is like a mechanical keyboard switch tool is you can actually take out

1:17:48 the switches for each button

1:17:51 for each mouse click and there are different types of Dude, I'm so mad.

1:17:55 I'm so mad at what I'll tell you.

1:17:58 There are different type of optical and mechanical switches that you

1:18:00 can then put in there just like pop them in.

1:18:03 But they all have That's crazy.

1:18:05 Can I ask something?

1:18:06 Yeah.

1:18:06 Yeah.

1:18:06 What has been the general reception to this idea online?

1:18:10 I'm not that deep in the gaming mouse category anymore.

1:18:14 I think they're they're a pretty popular company.

1:18:16 Some of a lot of the pros use them.

1:18:18 I think still places like Razer kind of beats out a lot of big ones.

1:18:22 Razer and Zoey.

1:18:24 So, I have beef with this.

1:18:25 Okay.

1:18:25 What's your beef?

1:18:27 Back about 10, 12, 15 years ago when I was growing up,

1:18:32 I had this mouse called the cyborg rat mouse.

1:18:36 from Cats.

1:18:36 Yeah, from Mad Cats and it was a fully modular adjust.

1:18:40 I got made fun of for that relentlessly.

1:18:41 It's the same thing.

1:18:43 It's the same thing.

1:18:44 Have you seen Look, I have big hands.

1:18:46 I can't use a regular size mouse.

1:18:48 This mouse, I get to customize it to fit my hand.

1:18:51 Oh, I get to move it.

1:18:53 I get Marquez's past.

1:18:54 I get to put weights in it or take the weights out of it.

1:18:58 The same idea.

1:18:58 I didn't even need special tools.

1:19:00 It was all built in.

1:19:01 And I had this customizable mouse that was perfect for me.

1:19:03 And everyone hated it.

1:19:04 and I got hate for it and then I I retired it and now this idea is suddenly,

1:19:09 oh, you can customize your mouse.

1:19:11 Would you would you look at that?

1:19:12 That's so nice.

1:19:13 I want to customize my mouse.

1:19:14 I'm like, well, you guys don't know about the Mad Cats rat.

1:19:17 The Mad Cats rat is the Cyber Truck of this thing looks like it gets hate,

1:19:22 but it's the OG for this.

1:19:24 Then we have also normalized insane looking

1:19:27 PC peripherals over the last 20 years.

1:19:29 I think at that point in time everything

1:19:31 looked really really basic and then eventually it got

1:19:33 it was called the rat cuz it was better than a mouse.

1:19:35 It was bigger.

1:19:37 I never made that connection.

1:19:39 The problem if you don't know what this the cyborg rat

1:19:42 is is imagine a mouse where like all the corners had

1:19:46 like a dial that could move it like up and down

1:19:48 or side to side and make it wider or longer or Yeah.

1:19:52 wider the change the angle.

1:19:54 It was This mouse looks like it weighs 7 lbs.

1:19:57 You could take all the weight out of it.

1:19:58 It would be lighter than a normal mouse or put all

1:19:59 the weights in it and it would be smooth and heavy.

1:20:01 I bet it still weighs more than

1:20:02 this wireless one with 200 hours of battery life.

1:20:04 But could you change the weight though?

1:20:07 I don't know.

1:20:07 Everyone right now in the gaming sphere wants light.

1:20:10 It's like 50 50 to 80 gram is like I will find I will find out the weight

1:20:15 for you of this mouse because I'm sure it's

1:20:18 but lots of different right now there's only black, white,

1:20:21 red, but the Sim 2 had like a million different colors.

1:20:24 So two two things I think are cool about this.

1:20:26 Like I said before, it's all about feel.

1:20:29 It's kind of like uh truly wireless earbuds, right?

1:20:32 Like you might buy a pair that you think are great,

1:20:34 but they don't fit in your ears great.

1:20:35 So with this, you get when you buy it,

1:20:38 it comes with all three different backs and the two different buttons,

1:20:41 so you can kind of make it fit your hand better.

1:20:44 Yeah.

1:20:43 Um and it has all the specs you would want.

1:20:45 Then if you're also someone like me who switches

1:20:47 a keyboard out all the time or a desk mat,

1:20:49 there will be different colors to so now your mouse can

1:20:53 match the different colors of the desk that you're setting up on.

1:20:56 What's the value in raising or lowering the optical sensor?

1:20:59 I don't know.

1:21:00 My guess is like depending on how you lift off,

1:21:03 maybe having it more forward facing or more or not forward facing,

1:21:06 but more towards the front or more towards the back is better.

1:21:09 Uh my hot take is if you need to adjust these things,

1:21:11 you're just bad at video games.

1:21:13 M yeah might not be wrong.

1:21:16 A lot of pro players though will say a million different things of like, oh,

1:21:18 I'm trying claw grip out this time and now I'm hitting everything better,

1:21:21 which I think is kind of snake oil

1:21:25 a little or like the the pros doing it and you definitely don't need to.

1:21:28 I was wondering why this wasn't clicking.

1:21:30 It's because I don't think the but um yeah, the switch is in it.

1:21:33 But yeah, that was it.

1:21:34 I don't want to sound like an ad too much, but I thought it was neat.

1:21:38 You can still buy a cyborg rat.

1:21:40 Buy one.

1:21:40 If you love it so much, buy it.

1:21:41 I'm just saying when you marry him.

1:21:43 It's an option.

1:21:44 It's an option.

1:21:44 My video is from January 31st.

1:21:47 Make a short on it.

1:21:49 Honestly, the short would pay for itself.

1:21:51 It's 14 years old.

1:21:52 Uh, good times.

1:21:54 Well, I think that's all we have for this week.

1:21:55 We are recording a day early this week, uh, because of scheduling conflicts.

1:22:00 And so, if anything major happens tomorrow or Thursday, I'm sowi.

1:22:04 That's also why I'm wearing green and no one else is cuz it's St.

1:22:07 Patrick's.

1:22:07 Is it actually?

1:22:08 Yes.

1:22:09 What?

1:22:09 What the actual green bagels?

1:22:11 I'm literally wearing green.

1:22:14 I didn't realize it was St.

1:22:15 Patrick's Day and wore green by accident.

1:22:17 50% of people in the room are wearing green upset at these two.

1:22:21 I mean, this is green gray.

1:22:23 David's laptop is green.

1:22:24 Okay, but also I said it and everyone went, "What it is?"

1:22:26 There's a lot of green in here.

1:22:27 Actually, I knew it was St.

1:22:28 Patrick's.

1:22:29 I literally pulled out of my driveway and I was like, "Ah, crap.

1:22:31 I forgot to wear green." And I get here and everyone's wearing green.

1:22:34 And and then Andrew goes, "Oh, St.

1:22:35 Patrick's Day." And they all go, "What?

1:22:37 That's today?" Like you're all wearing green by accident.

1:22:39 That's insane.

1:22:40 You guys I'm sorry.

1:22:42 Thank you for the green.

1:22:44 Leprechauns.

1:22:44 I feel like wearing green and blue is directly contrasting.

1:22:48 Or it's just like blue is the antithesis of green.

1:22:51 He's the ocean.

1:22:51 I don't think that's true.

1:22:53 The ocean.

1:22:53 They're right next to each other in the rainbow.

1:22:55 Yeah.

1:22:55 Blue and green together is like one of the most soughtafter colors ever.

1:22:58 It's seafoam.

1:22:59 Yeah.

1:22:59 Just ask Miles Davis.

1:23:01 That's right.

1:23:01 Kind of blue.

1:23:03 Deep cut.

1:23:03 I don't get that.

1:23:04 No, it was even deeper than that.

1:23:05 There's a song on that album called Blue and Green.

1:23:07 Oh, on kind of blue.

1:23:08 I'm more of a green and blue guy.

1:23:11 You know what has no color?

1:23:13 The trivia.

1:23:14 No, trivia is blue.

1:23:14 Have you ever seen the lights behind you?

1:23:16 They're kind of green a little.

1:23:17 If you look at red little blue and green, actually after dark.

1:23:21 What is blue?

1:23:22 Guys, I have refreshed the video.

1:23:25 Okay, I need What is the title?

1:23:27 And we're doing Jeopardy rules,

1:23:28 so you have to write the full title of the video.

1:23:32 Wait, hold on.

1:23:32 Jeopardy rules would be you have to write what

1:23:34 is and then the full title of the video.

1:23:36 You're right.

1:23:36 You're right.

1:23:36 We're doing Ellis.

1:23:38 Ellis.

1:23:38 We're doing Jel Gel.

1:23:40 We're doing Ellis's We're doing Gillespie rules.

1:23:48 What is the title of the Tom Scott video as of me refreshing it 35 seconds ago?

1:23:53 Prices, right?

1:23:54 Rules.

1:23:57 I went super specific.

1:23:58 So, if I'm off by like five over, I'm going to be so mad.

1:24:01 I think I'm way I think it's a million over this, but I went under on purpose.

1:24:05 Okay, who wants to go first?

1:24:08 All of you flipped your board, said no.

1:24:09 Okay, someone read first.

1:24:10 Holy moly.

1:24:12 Okay, you go first, Marquez.

1:24:13 My title is This video has 12,20,22 views.

1:24:19 Excellent guess.

1:24:20 Mine is This video has 17,653,147 views.

1:24:25 Excellent guess.

1:24:26 Mine is this video has 58 million views.

1:24:30 Objectively a better guess than the other two.

1:24:32 This video has 74 million 958,941.

1:24:39 So much money views.

1:24:40 Meeting David.

1:24:42 74 million.

1:24:43 You rolling in it, my guy.

1:24:44 Insane.

1:24:45 I heard something like they they fixed the bug that allows

1:24:47 you to do this, but they just let him still have as they Yeah, as you do.

1:24:53 All right.

1:24:53 After that, quick update on the score.

1:24:55 Marquez with 17.

1:24:57 Andrew with 19.

1:24:58 David after that correct answer with 22.

1:25:01 22 way.

1:25:03 I'm also rolling it at Tom.

1:25:05 You and me, we had red shirts together.

1:25:07 We had We rolling it together.

1:25:09 Are you just Tom Scott?

1:25:10 That's right.

1:25:11 David, you seen them in the same room?

1:25:13 We have been in the same room.

1:25:15 We have many times.

1:25:16 But I will say David, worst takes on waveform.

1:25:19 Best answers at trivia.

1:25:21 That's right.

1:25:22 If you don't get that, go back and listen to the South by episode.

1:25:25 All right.

1:25:25 Next question.

1:25:26 I only lost by two.

1:25:27 Apple's highspeed event announced such classics as MagSafe and HomePod Mini.

1:25:32 What year was this event?

1:25:35 Did you guys see what got killed by Google this week?

1:25:38 Oh no.

1:25:40 Keep.

1:25:42 No.

1:25:41 Oh yeah.

1:25:42 Google F.

1:25:42 I mean Google Fiber.

1:25:43 Yeah.

1:25:44 Stop it.

1:25:44 They Well, they sold Google.

1:25:45 They sold it to private equity to So it's not Google Fiber anymore.

1:25:49 It's going to be private equity fiber.

1:25:51 Why is Google selling to private equity?

1:25:53 No, there's they're selling off their fiber business.

1:25:55 Yeah, cuz they were like, "Oh, why are we doing this?"

1:26:00 Three cities that have it in 10 blocks radius.

1:26:03 All right, flip him and read.

1:26:04 What do we got?

1:26:06 I think it's probably Wait, I was Marquez is erasing his previous answer.

1:26:13 Oh, which one is it going to be?

1:26:14 What is it?

1:26:14 It could be very He's leaving.

1:26:16 He's leaving.

1:26:17 That's why you made that.

1:26:20 All right.

1:26:19 It looks like his answer is 2030.

1:26:23 2020.

1:26:25 2020.

1:26:24 2020.

1:26:25 and I both did 2020.

1:26:26 That was sick.

1:26:27 All right, I did 2020.

1:26:29 David and Marquez get the point.

1:26:31 That was the coolest points anyone's ever gotten on Wave Form.

1:26:33 That was kind of kind of a bar.

1:26:35 That was pretty sick.

1:26:36 Counts the same.

1:26:37 Only video viewers will understand what just happened.

1:26:39 He erased his numbers until it said 2020.

1:26:43 But you have to be there.

1:26:46 It's for the full effect.

1:26:47 It was It was like in Harry Potter when the the letters are rearranged.

1:26:51 It's like I am Tom Ridden.

1:26:55 It's like those people who like paint something really complicating.

1:26:57 You're like, "What is this?" And then they

1:26:59 turn it upside down and it's this amazing portrait.

1:27:01 It was almost that cool.

1:27:02 I promise.

1:27:04 Anyway, thanks for watching.

1:27:07 Welcome back to regularly scheduled programming.

1:27:09 It's still TAR, by the way.

1:27:10 There's still a whole another week of Tar to go.

1:27:14 Uh you could call it match mech if you want, but it's it's mostly tar.

1:27:17 Um, so we'll see you uh in the comments section

1:27:22 for for all the fun stories that we missed on Wednesday.

1:27:25 It'll still be dark next week, too.

1:27:28 Tape roll is going to be so crazy.

1:27:30 Techrol.

1:27:31 Tech.

1:27:31 I can't I don't know if I can do another margin, dude.

1:27:33 In techroll, it'll be better weather.

1:27:36 Get it?

1:27:36 Integral.

1:27:37 In tech roll.

1:27:38 It'll be nice.

1:27:39 Please end this.

1:27:40 We should end this.

1:27:41 See you guys next week.

1:27:42 Peace.

1:27:44 Wait for is produced by Well, you read it out now.

1:27:48 Wait for is produced by Well, you read it out now.

1:27:51 Wait for is produced by Yeah.

1:27:57 Abreina Ellis Raven Vox Media Podcast Network.

1:27:59 Veins.

1:28:02 Bingo.

1:28:10 Whoa.

1:28:10 I didn't know David was jacked.