Trump PERSONALLY Courts Fetterman: Promises $$ Windfall

0:00 So, we wanted to cover a few developments over

0:02 on the Democratic side of the aisle starting with this one.

0:05 John Fetterman, who of course is increasingly a thorn in side

0:09 of Democrats and all decent people of all political stripes,

0:13 is apparently being actively courted by the Republican Party

0:16 to flip him from being a Democrat to being a Republican.

0:20 This is from Jonathan Martin.

0:21 He says inside the quiet Republican effort to flip John Fetterman.

0:26 I'll read you a little bit of the beginning here.

0:27 It says it's a few days after the election this November have become clear.

0:31 Democrats have netted the four seats they need to claim a Senate majority,

0:34 but then there's a disturbance in the force.

0:36 Senate Republicans and President Trump persuade John Fetterman to switch parties

0:40 or at least become an independent

0:42 to ensure Republicans retain power in the chamber.

0:45 It's a scenario that's becoming less fantastical by the day.

0:48 The political environment is curdling for Republicans and the quiet

0:51 campaign to lure Fetterman across the aisle is underway.

0:54 Trump has made the sell offering his patented total

0:58 and complete endorsement plus a financial windfall to the Pennsylvanian.

1:02 A handful of Senate Republicans are

1:04 also gently feeling out Fetterman and responding

1:06 to his concerns over the prospect of defecting from the Democratic Party,

1:10 multiple high-level GOP officials tell me.

1:13 And goes into talking about some

1:14 of his close relationships with David McCormick,

1:17 who is his fellow Republican Senator from Pennsylvania,

1:20 Katie Britt also and her husband have become apparently

1:24 very close to John Fetterman and his wife Giselle.

1:27 He hangs out not in the Senate Democratic cloak room.

1:31 He hangs out in the Republican one, which is rather telling.

1:36 Yeah.

1:36 Should we explain that cuz I don't know if people really.

1:38 So, the cloak rooms are these offshoots where only the Senators are allowed.

1:43 They have phone booths and couches.

1:45 It's like literally only Senators and I like a few senior staff.

1:49 It's kind of a way they use it to hide

1:51 from the press and or to hide from their own staff.

1:53 Sometimes they're like allegedly many older ones are

1:57 known to take naps in the cloak room,

1:59 just saying, or sleep off something, certain substances that you may drink.

2:02 Uh so, anyway, that's a it's a long storied history of the cloak room.

2:05 But, it's pretty crazy to go.

2:07 I mean, it's not unheard of to go

2:09 into the opposing party's cloak room for negotiations,

2:12 if you're Senator Schumer or something like that, but to hang

2:15 out exclusively in the other side's cloak room is beyond crazy.

2:19 Like, I've not heard of anything like it.

2:22 It's a very inside baseball thing, but to you know,

2:24 for those in the know, you're like, "Oh, wow.

2:26 Like, I did not know that, that he's hanging out

2:28 mostly in there." Which probably shows a couple of things,

2:32 the enmity with his fellow Democratic colleagues are

2:34 treating him while he's in the cloak room,

2:37 and also the extent to which he feels comfortable in the Republican cloak room.

2:41 So, that's very, very interesting, actually.

2:44 Yeah, it's inside baseball, but it is meaningful in terms of where his mind is.

2:47 And I mean, apparently,

2:49 it's not like his Democratic colleagues have been mean to him,

2:51 but they just don't really want to hang out with him.

2:54 You know, that they're more he described them as being more stand-offish,

2:57 which makes sense, because, you know, listen,

3:00 I think when he's up for re-election,

3:02 the guy doesn't have a prayer of winning in a Democratic primary.

3:05 He's far more popular with Republicans in his state than he is with Democrats.

3:08 Conor Lamb is thinking of um challenging him.

3:11 There are other noteworthy Pennsylvania figures who are

3:13 thinking of challenging him in the Democratic primary.

3:15 Again, I don't think he has a chance

3:17 in hell of getting re-elected as a Democrat.

3:19 I think he knows that.

3:21 Um Republicans certainly know that.

3:22 Trump sees that.

3:23 They all can see the way that he has completely

3:26 torched his image with his utter commitment to a genocide.

3:30 And also, he just loves to go on Fox News,

3:32 and he he's backing Trump's freaking ballroom.

3:34 Like, any of these sort of like things that are important to Trump,

3:38 he accused his party of having Trump derangement syndrome.

3:41 He loves to go on Fox News and do these things.

3:43 So, even though he'll say, "Oh,

3:44 but I have a 93% voting record with the Democrats,"

3:47 on the things that are most public and visible,

3:50 you can see the way that he has

3:52 rhetorically aligned himself with the Republicans on key

3:55 issues that have made them very happy

3:56 and have made the Democratic base very unhappy.

4:00 So, then the question is, okay, well,

4:01 does he completely change his political stripes

4:04 and run in a Republican primary in the future?

4:07 That also is not a given that he would succeed there either.

4:12 Because while they may love him at the moment,

4:14 when they see him go on TV and say like,

4:17 oh, that my party has Trump derangement syndrome,

4:19 when he is actually Republican and they're having to deal

4:23 with the fact that he used to, you know,

4:24 he supports gay marriage and he supports some like liberal cultural things.

4:27 He's pro pro-choice.

4:29 Are Republican voters really going to back him

4:31 as their pick to be their nominee either?

4:34 And then that leaves open the path of like running as an independent,

4:37 where effectively, you know,

4:38 then you're just serving as a spoiler probably honestly for the Republicans

4:42 at that point because he's more popular

4:43 with Republicans than he is with Democrats.

4:46 So, in any case, he's you know,

4:48 he's created a difficult political landscape for himself.

4:52 But

4:52 Yeah, he kind of made a good point

4:54 in his own interview about himself to your point.

4:56 He said, I'd make a shitty Republican.

4:58 How would they accept somebody who supports abortion,

5:00 gay marriage, legalizing marijuana, and pro-labor?

5:05 He flies the pride flag out of his center.

5:07 I mean, here I do remember he was pretty into the trans stuff like back in 2022.

5:12 So, yeah, that would be kind I don't know.

5:14 I'm not, you know, I don't I'm not truly familiar with Pennsylvania GOP,

5:19 but they seem pretty hardcore Trump.

5:21 Like

5:22 Yeah, I mean, they nominated some total psychos.

5:25 Uh there was that bitter primary with Dr.

5:28 Oz and Dave McCormick.

5:30 By the way, I'm What was Dave McCormick's victory margin?

5:33 I don't remember it being all that good.

5:36 No, it was it was very close.

5:40 48.8, Bob Casey 48.6.

5:43 Yeah, it was very close.

5:44 Wow, I did not realize that.

5:46 So, he only beat him by 0.2% of the vote

5:50 in How much did Trump beat Kamala by in PA?

5:52 Probably a point maybe a point or two maybe?

5:55 Something So, just to show you how Dave McCormick actually ran behind him.

5:59 McCormick, by the way, is like some Bush era,

6:02 you know, hedge fund multi-gazillionaire.

6:05 Trump beat her by 1.7% in PA.

6:07 actually pretty good in Pennsylvania.

6:09 That's the most he's ever won in PA.

6:10 is a win is a win.

6:11 Uh and so, yeah, I mean, 1.7 compared to 0.2 in terms of his victory margin.

6:15 I don't think that Fetterman necessarily has a chance, but does he care?

6:19 I mean, that's one of the presumptions here is what if

6:21 he switched parties and then just declined to run for re-election?

6:25 I mean, you and I both know Kyrsten Sinema, I mean,

6:27 you could be a very rich He was already rich.

6:29 Now, he can be a lot richer.

6:31 Uh turn his little Pittsburgh, you know,

6:33 haven into even bigger of a garage or something or whatever.

6:37 Broad in Pennsylvania, I believe it's a

6:38 Is that what he Doesn't he live in a garage?

6:40 He like lives in some converted because he interviewed him once.

6:43 I was like, "Where are you?" He's like, "This is my house." Isn't it great?

6:46 You know, I saw I was thinking back when we interviewed him

6:49 and it was in the middle of like all the stop the steal nonsense.

6:52 also pre-stroke.

6:52 And he was Yeah, but I was just thinking

6:54 back on that and how different he I mean, he really was like a different person.

6:59 He's like a blue collar liberal.

7:00 Yeah, I mean, we interviewed him because he was the most aggressive Democrat

7:03 practically in the country going after Trump

7:06 for all his stop the steal delusions.

7:08 And Trump was going after him.

7:10 They were warring on Twitter.

7:12 I mean, that's what his brand was.

7:14 And that's obviously not his brand anymore.

7:16 Um so, anyway, I don't know.

7:17 He seems to relish the possibility of very

7:21 likely if even if he doesn't flip parties,

7:25 he is going to be in a position to play the Joe Manchin or Kyrsten Sinema role.

7:30 Where if Democrats want to get something passed,

7:33 they're going to have to go to John Fetterman and they're going to have

7:35 to give him what he wants and cater to his ego, blah, blah, blah.

7:39 What's that?

7:40 This makes me think he won't switch because

7:42 Cuz you think he'll like that role too much.

7:44 people, the McCains, the Mansions, the swing vote,

7:48 they are the biggest ego maniacal,

7:52 most like they relish when all the reporters camp out and they go,

7:57 "Oh, this one's not acceptable to me." And everyone has to you know,

8:01 you do like criminology on Joe Manchin.

8:04 Remember?

8:04 Oh, yeah.

8:04 Remember when he lived on that boat and they're like,

8:06 "Who was on the boat last night?"

8:07 Oh, yeah.

8:08 "Susan Collins spotted on in the houseboat." Or something like that.

8:12 So, I mean Sinema, she was very much the same.

8:14 The The level of ego maniacal narcissism that those swing vote people have,

8:19 like the centrist corporate swing vote.

8:21 Also, they love they get dined out all over town.

8:24 They're They could go to any restaurant in the country that they want to.

8:28 The ultra-rich will all flock to them.

8:30 This I'm talking myself into it, he's not going to switch.

8:33 He will love that.

8:36 Yeah.

8:35 Yeah, I think he will I think you're probably right.

8:37 He He will relish Now, let me think about it.

8:39 I mean, otherwise you work for John Thune.

8:41 Like, who wants to do that?

8:42 Or for Trump.

8:43 Like, that.

8:43 YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER BE A KING.

8:45 that is part of what he told Jay Martin in this piece is he's like,

8:49 "They didn't even let like Tom Tillis stay in the party." And he's like,

8:53 "You think that I'm going to that it's going

8:54 to work out for me as a Republican?" I mean,

8:56 the other possibility is that he just completely changes more of his positions,

9:00 which is also not something I would put off the table.

9:02 But I think you're right that he's looking forward to being

9:05 playing that role of the the rotating villain, you know,

9:08 the one that everybody has to kowtow

9:10 to and everybody has to like find out what you

9:12 want and massage your ego and all that sort

9:14 of stuff because if Democrats take the Senate,

9:18 which is still a tall order by the way,

9:19 but they have I mean now they have they really have a fighting chance at it.

9:23 Between I saw polling for in Alaska where Mary Peltola,

9:27 who is the Democrat running there, is up.

9:30 Sherrod Brown is up in Ohio.

9:32 You know, then you've got North Carolina,

9:34 I think it's pretty much a lock for Roy Cooper, frankly.

9:36 You've got Maine with Graham Platner looking very good

9:38 that Susan Collins won't be able to hang on this time.

9:41 Texas, the polling has been pretty good for Tal Rico there as well.

9:44 So, in any case, they have a path,

9:45 but even if they win, it's going to be narrow.

9:48 You know, the most you could see is they have a two-seat margin,

9:51 and that would be extraordinary if they were able to get that.

9:54 That would be like biggest landslide that we've

9:57 had going back to the Tea Party era.

10:00 Um but, you know, this time for Democrats, that would be those sorts of numbers.

10:04 So, even in that situation, you know,

10:05 if Fetterman teams up with whoever the next

10:07 most conservative Democratic senator is to cause problems.

10:11 You could easily see it, and yeah, he would relish that role.

10:13 There's another little Pennsylvania scandal developing here,

10:18 which is actually very interesting.

10:19 So, Josh Shapiro, who's the governor, obviously,

10:22 and you guys will remember was a top

10:23 contender to be uh Kamala Harris's vice presidential pick,

10:27 basically came down to like him and Tim Walls.

10:29 Kamala seems to have felt like, and I think she's kind of indicated in this now,

10:33 that this guy was just too full of himself, that he wasn't really a team player,

10:36 and so that was the reason why she was more comfortable with Tim Walls.

10:40 Well, apparently, um Shapiro behind the scenes went to a top

10:47 union leader and pushed them to back a Republican for state treasurer

10:52 in 2024 because he was mad that the Democratic nominee had

10:57 said something negative about Shapiro in the context of the VP stakes.

11:04 So, the Democratic nominee for state treasurer

11:05 criticized him and said she actually said,

11:07 "Oh, I would rather have Roy Cooper." And so,

11:10 Shapiro apparently then went and tried to boost her Republican opponent,

11:15 which obviously, you know, as a guy who portrays himself as the ultimate,

11:18 you know, Dem and we're going to help the party, we got to fight Trump, etc.,

11:22 to be working behind the scenes to help Republicans is not exactly going

11:25 to endear you to Democratic primary voters were you to, I don't know,

11:28 run for president in 2028.

11:31 So, the way that this came out is because Bob Brooks,

11:34 who is this union leader who's now running for Congress, by the way,

11:38 got asked a question about it and he spilled the tea that, "Hey,

11:41 actually Shapiro is the one that pushed our union to back

11:44 the Republican candidate." Um this was a scoop from Axios.

11:47 Let's go ahead and listen to that audio.

11:50 It looks like you and your union had supported candidates such as Stacy Garrity.

11:53 Can you talk a little bit about that cuz that seems

11:55 to go against kind of what you're talking about here today?

11:58 So, this called fun, that was a request, ironically,

12:05 from Governor Josh Shapiro because Erin McClelland was running against her.

12:11 We had actually supported a guy by the name Ryan McEllroy.

12:14 So, wasn't me, it was my union, right?

12:18 I'm one vote on a board of 11.

12:21 But, anyways, Josh Shapiro had requested me cuz

12:23 Stacy Garrity Erin McClelland came out hard about something

12:28 on Josh Shapiro and really the Democratic Party

12:31 as a whole turned on Erin McClelland and uh he said,

12:36 "I would like you guys to endorse Stacy Garrity." So,

12:38 we went with Stacy Garrity.

12:40 So, he says there um this is the Firefighters Union.

12:43 He says there, "Josh Shapiro had requested because

12:45 Stacy or Erin McClelland came out hard about something

12:49 on Josh Shapiro and really the Democratic Party

12:51 as a whole turned on Erin McClelland and he said,

12:54 'I would like you guys to endorse Stacy Garrity.'" That was the Republican pick.

12:59 So, as clear as it could possibly be, according to Bob Brooks,

13:03 this you know, firefighter union leader,

13:05 that it was Shapiro who specifically asked them, "Hey,

13:08 you guys should back the Republican in this." I will say also,

13:11 I don't know if this is related or not,

13:14 but um apparently the um there was a Put Put the next tweet up on the screen.

13:19 One of the dividing issues in this uh in this election between the Republican

13:25 and the Democrat was whether or not they're are going to invest in Israel bonds.

13:29 And the Democratic candidate said that she

13:32 did not think it was a good investment,

13:33 that she didn't think it was a good use of taxpayer dollars,

13:36 and she was not going to be investing in those Israel bonds.

13:39 And the Republican was very much in support of investing in the Israel bonds.

13:42 And given that Shapiro is, you know, very committed Zionist,

13:45 one wonders if that also factored into his enmity against

13:49 the Democratic candidate here um in the state of Pennsylvania as well.

13:53 I you know, PA and Illinois and all of this it's

13:56 very interesting to me because you have these Democratic states.

13:58 I just saw today some quote from Pritzker.

14:01 He's like, "You can hate Netanyahu,

14:02 but don't take it out on Israel." And I was like,

14:04 "What's it like what is this?" You know,

14:06 this uh this like centrism uh cuz these are deep

14:10 I mean not PA cuz PA is a genuine swing state.

14:13 But at the state level, they seem relatively committed, you know, to Shapiro.

14:17 He's a very popular governor.

14:19 He was elected I think with 12% of vote margin.

14:23 Granted, he was running against Mastriano,

14:25 but he remains I mean, honestly, pretty popular in the state.

14:28 Every time you see his social media presence,

14:30 by the way, is actually like shockingly good.

14:32 Oh, really?

14:33 I don't follow him.

14:34 My you know, sister-in-law sends me the all of Shapiro's

14:36 TikToks where he like sits at his desk and plays game.

14:39 Apparently, they go viral.

14:40 That's what I know.

14:42 And so I mean, I don't know like he seems to have like a lock on this.

14:45 But at a national level, I think that's the real interesting part is it's

14:49 going to be very similar to many of the fights

14:51 in the Republican era where you would have

14:53 these individually popular Republican governors even in swing states.

14:57 But that doesn't fit necessarily the national mood of the entire base,

15:01 which actually makes a lot of sense.

15:03 Like Illinois, it's a machine state producing Pritzker is like a no-brainer.

15:08 But you know, copy-pasting that into a national primary and especially in a lot

15:14 of these primary states where you're going

15:17 to have a base which is very very activated,

15:19 I don't think it's necessarily one-to-one.

15:21 That's why I mean, I still put my money You know,

15:24 the the national polls, the people getting the real attention,

15:28 it's people like Gavin, Kamala on forward, hate to say it,

15:31 but she still continues to lead like a lot of these polls, which is Disturbing.

15:35 Crazy.

15:35 Really disturbing.

15:35 People all need to, you know, I don't know what's going on with that one.

15:40 AOC, if Platner gets elected, he'll have some profile, you know,

15:44 he'll be a media guy, he could definitely do something with it.

15:47 Newsom, I still, you know, still very I'm not taking my money off of him

15:50 just yet cuz his level of name ID is so crazy.

15:53 So, that's why, you know, these things are very interesting to me,

15:55 but at a national level, that's the disconnect that I see.

15:58 Uh part of the problem for Shapiro, too,

16:00 is one of the knocks on him is that he's like

16:02 petty and vindictive and this kind of seems to prove that point.

16:06 So, telling me a gubernatorial candidate who is very popular is egomaniac?

16:13 Oh, shocking.

16:15 I mean, if that's the number one lesson I've

16:17 learned about these people You can't under I mean,

16:19 everything about him, the Obama affect, the basketball,

16:23 the TikTok, and the, you know, every Look, at the end of the day,

16:27 as I've now learned the hard way, like all of these people are insincere.

16:31 It is what it is.

16:31 It's really about more what they're going to do for us, but from him,

16:35 there's something When you can smell it on a person, it's just distasteful.

16:38 Well, you know, Again, that's me.

16:40 A lot of people like it.

16:41 A lot of other people like

16:42 I you know, I've got a hard line against the Obama impersonators,

16:45 and he is one of the worst in terms of copying Obama's cadence and style,

16:49 and it just irritates the

16:51 Remember, Jon Favreau even said that, Obama's former speech writer.

16:53 He was like, "Yo, this is wild." So,

16:56 so don't take it from us, take it from Obama's speech writer.

16:59 to do some of the like same mannerisms and things.

17:03 And you're a grown man, have your own personality.

17:06 Like this is so weird.

17:07 I mean, this is decades ago now that Obama was on the right.

17:09 Anyway, a little bit.

17:10 I'm sure you and I subconsciously will copy people like in the way

17:14 that we like grew up with, but at a certain point, you need to come into your

17:18 Grow up.

17:20 Yeah.

17:19 Yes, you need to.

17:20 You need to come into your own.

17:22 Have your own style.

17:23 In any case, but I think all of this is moot

17:25 cuz Democrats have a stunning new 2028 contender who seems to be,

17:30 you know, really on the rise.

17:31 Let's go ahead and take a listen to C4.

17:34 I agreed succeeded in bringing the mainstream

17:38 of the left into a concern with inequality.

17:43 We also enabled people who wanted to use that as a platform

17:49 for a wide range of social and cultural changes,

17:53 some of which the public isn't ready for.

17:56 Even when I agree with them on the end,

17:59 I think they make a mistake by taking the most

18:05 controversial parts of the agenda and turning them into litmus test.

18:10 For example, the same-sex marriage.

18:13 Obviously, I've been working for gay rights

18:15 since the 1972 when I filed the bill.

18:19 And we in the movement to establish

18:23 freedom for gay and lesbian and bisexual people,

18:28 we picked to work on those issues which were more acceptable.

18:32 We didn't get to marriage until after these other things had been resolved.

18:37 And that's what I'm suggesting that we do today.

18:40 The analog is male-to-female transsexual playing

18:46 sports that are meant for women.

18:50 So, that for those not in the know is former Congressman Barney Frank.

18:55 He is himself a gay man as was indicated there was

18:58 really on the front lines of pushing for gay marriage equality.

19:02 He had a scandal back in the day that was pretty wild at the time

19:06 where he'd hired like a male sex worker and it was a whole thing.

19:09 In any case the way it should be.

19:11 Sorry, that was not homophobic.

19:13 Any politician who's hiring hookers, no matter of of the gender.

19:17 I was thinking who really needs to run

19:19 on a platform of doing an ethics investigation

19:21 to literally every member of Congress because I

19:23 feel like that's necessary at that at this point.

19:27 Yeah.

19:25 At any in at any rate, he is dying and he's decided as his like last act,

19:31 he penned a book that is all about like how the you know,

19:33 progressives are getting it all wrong

19:35 and is doing this appearance with Jake Tapper.

19:37 And the other thing that you should know about

19:39 Barney Frank and his track record and his contribution

19:43 to the Democratic Party is that his most

19:45 famous piece of legislation is the Dodd-Frank financial reform.

19:49 So, after the financial crash, there was a big effort to break up the banks,

19:54 to separate the sort of you know,

19:56 high-flying investing part that's very dangerous and casino-like from the staid,

20:01 normal commercial banking, which is the way things used to be.

20:05 But instead, we got this very watered-down reform called Dodd-Frank.

20:10 And so, he was author of that.

20:11 And then, lo and behold, when he retires from Congress, what does he go into?

20:15 He becomes a bank lobbyist.

20:16 So, you know, to take advice from this guy on anything,

20:20 let alone the fact that look,

20:21 this advice at this point that okay, yeah, we get it we get it.

20:24 Like, the trans sports thing is not a not a compelling or popular issue.

20:29 Yes, we understand that.

20:30 I don't know that we needed like a dying former bank lobbyist

20:33 Wait, do we understand that though?

20:34 No, I'm going to I'm going to challenge this.

20:36 I don't think that's true.

20:37 I don't think that we understand that.

20:38 Like, libs still go really hard on trans sports.

20:41 They do.

20:41 I mean, I've seen it rejected as a litmus Well, I think

20:44 They they blasted Seth Moulton in the opening days

20:46 of the of the 2025 whenever he was like, why would we die on this hill?

20:50 So, Yeah, because I would really disagree with you.

20:52 Well, what I would say is for me, the idea that that is the main

20:55 and primary problem with the Democratic Party is ridiculous.

20:58 The people who tend to bring this up the most are Republicans.

21:01 You're talking about a small pool of people and I

21:02 think you would agree with me that this advice

21:05 is hardly unique in being offered by Barney Frank

21:09 and very much ignores very much ignores again the incredibly damaging

21:14 role he himself played in helping to turn the Democratic

21:17 Party into a party of elites that are more

21:20 obsessed with cultural issues than they are with you know

21:23 that in their opposed to delivering for working class people.

21:25 expect to be defending Barney Frank, but I mean he did you know he was one

21:28 of the people who was the major champion of gay rights.

21:31 Now I would tell you that he I mean look it's funny I almost forgot his record.

21:37 This is the guy caught with a male hooker

21:39 in 1985 who became the face of gay marriage.

21:42 Okay, that's really interesting.

21:44 Also was one of the first sponsors of legal gambling in the United States.

21:49 He beat then did Dodd-Frank which are we all better off Mhm.

21:54 financially so yeah I mean I'm with you poster

21:57 boy for turning America into a libertine degenerate place.

22:00 Now that said if you were to say like oh okay

22:03 Barney as an activist can give advice on this I'll be like

22:07 all right I'll cut him a break but yeah I see

22:09 what you're saying which is that this is definitely look I mean

22:12 I do think and this is where with Barney Frank let's

22:15 everyone talks about him like some gay rights hero again like okay

22:20 considering the track record of how all that went down like

22:23 in terms of everything that he did while he was in Congress.

22:26 Mhm.

22:25 Nobody ever puts any scrutiny but in general

22:28 though these politicians from the mid-2000s

22:32 and others should be treated with the same contempt that we would let's

22:36 say when the Republicans did whenever they were doing their reform in 2016

22:41 under Trump like obviously we thought that's we were doing with the Bush era.

22:45 Never thought Mark Tiesen be back in the White

22:46 House but here we are but the point

22:49 remains that like who's some 2000 politician I'm

22:52 trying to who's the equivalent on the Republican side.

22:54 Jeff Flake maybe I mean I'm sorry like I don't give a with Jeff

22:56 Flake has to say about the current

22:58 Republican Party like period literally a libertarian.

23:00 Lindsey Graham.

23:02 Yeah but he's still office.

23:03 I know.

23:03 Great people of South Carolina, keep electing him.

23:06 Uh, I'm talking about people Yeah.

23:09 I'm I'm just thinking of like some mid-2000s.

23:11 I don't know who was that vice president.

23:12 I might be wrong.

23:13 Dan Quayle.

23:13 I'm like, sorry, don't care.

23:15 I don't care what you have to say, Dan Quayle.

23:16 It's your time has come and gone.

23:18 I mean, it's interesting in the context of like him

23:21 ending his life and like no disrespect to the man.

23:23 Like he's obviously in hospice.

23:25 Like, you know, I hope, you know, it's a horrible situation.

23:28 But it's more about Yeah,

23:30 I just wish that there was more grappling with some of those things.

23:33 In the Jake Tapper world or the CNN world, nobody would be like, "Hey,

23:37 so how did Dodd-Frank work out, buddy?" You know,

23:39 like Why does nobody ask that question?

23:41 Yeah, why does nobody ask about the gambling thing?

23:43 It's like you were literally one

23:44 of the top gambling proponents in the United States.

23:47 So, what happened there, Barney?

23:49 You know, we're living in your world, brother.

23:51 I think he used to You can correct me if I'm wrong.

23:54 I think he used to serve on the board or as of this like like pro-gay bank.

24:02 Which is like Yeah, I mean, that's a bit emblematic of his politics.

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