How Did Water Solve the 1800-Year-Old Talmudic Bankruptcy Problem?
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0:06 Welcome to another Mathologer video.
0:07 Today’s topic is a very old and very famous problem.
0:11 It is the bankruptcy problem from the 1800-year-old Babylonian Talmud,
0:16 the central text of Rabbinic
0:18 Judaism :)In particular,
0:20 I’ll tell you about the ingenious and beautiful solution of this
0:24 problem by Nobel prize winner Robert Aumann and
0:27 his colleague Michael Maschler—as well as Marek
0:30 Kaminski’s surprisingly visual,
0:33 water-powered interpretation using communicating vessels.Here
0:37 is the problem:A man dies.
0:39 Okay that was obviously a big problem for the man,
0:43 but that’s not our mathematical problem.
0:45 The mathematical problem is that when he died,
0:48 the man owed three creditors the amounts of 100, 200 and 300 dollars, making for
0:54 a total debt of 600 dollars.
0:56 Yes, probably they were shekels or dinars or something,
1:00 but let’s go with dollars :)Now,
1:03 how much of the man’s estate should each creditor receive?
1:08 Well, obviously, if the man had more than 600 dollars,
1:11 then everybody gets exactly what they are owed and
1:14 walks away happy.But what if the man’s estate is worth less than 600 dollars?
1:19 What happens then?
1:20 Sad faces, obviously :)but how sad exactly?
1:23 Now you may have an “obvious” answer in mind,
1:27 but save that for now:) Let’s start with the Talmud,
1:31 which provides advice for three
1:33 different scenarios.
1:34 First scenario, suppose the estate is worth 100 dollars.
1:38 In this scenario the Talmud directs that everybody
1:42 is supposed to receive the same amount:
1:44 100 divided by 3,
1:46 that’s 33 and a third.
1:47 Okay, that’s fair in some sense, although the guys owed more money may not
1:52 be so happy with this solution.
1:54 If you are owed more, wouldn’t you expect to get more?
1:57 Anyway, scenario two, what if the estate is worth 200 dollars?Easy right?
2:02 By the same logic as before,
2:05 just divide 200 by 3, and that’s 66 and two thirds for everybody.But that’s NOT
2:13 what the Talmud says.
2:14 Instead, the advised split is:Creditor 1 gets 50 and the other two creditors
2:20 get 75 each.
2:21 Why?
2:21 Who knows:) Well, maybe the third scenario will help us make sense of it
2:26 all.In the third scenario there is 300 dollars to split,
2:32 and the split is 50, 100, 150.
2:36 Everybody gets exactly half of what they are owed.
2:39 That’s the way you were thinking from the beginning,
2:42 right?
2:42 This proportional split is what most of us
2:45 would think to do and what most modern
2:47 bankruptcy laws would demand.
2:49 So what is going on with the Talmud?
2:52 What is the general principle
2:54 underlying these three scenarios?Definitely not clear, right?
2:57 How do you infer from these three
3:00 examples what you are supposed to do if the
3:03 estate is worth 150 dollars or 400 dollars or
3:05 any other amount?
3:06 And what if we are dealing with more or fewer creditors?
3:10 As I said, this mystery
3:12 has fascinated scholars for two millennia.
3:14 Let’s solve it together!
3:16 Will be fun:) Let me start by
3:19 telling you about this communicating vessels business
3:24 :)Did they show you this experiment
3:29 in school?
3:29 Pour water into a set of containers connected at the base.
3:33 Once the water settles,
3:35 it will level out to the same height in all the containers,
3:38 regardless of their shape or size.
3:40 There, and there.This principle is incredibly powerful—and
3:44 one of its coolest applications is
3:48 the water level.If you connect two points with a water-filled tube,
3:53 the water will naturally settle
3:55 at the same height on both ends.
3:57 This makes it an excellent tool for levelling in construction,
4:00 landscaping, or any situation requiring precision—even around obstacles!
4:05 I’ve actually used this method in a few DIY projects myself.
4:10 Practical magic :)Anyway, back to work:) Have
4:13 a look at this special set of 2d communicating vessels.
4:17 Three rectangles of the same height
4:20 have areas 100, 200 and 300.
4:22 Connect them at the bottom with tiny tubes.We’ll be ignoring the area
4:26 of these tubes.
4:27 Now we can use this setup as a water-powered analog computer.
4:31 We can use the
4:33 apparatus to proportionally allocate shares.
4:35 Here the estate corresponds to the area of the
4:39 2d water that we are pouring into the
4:43 vessels.And proportional distribution means that the shares of
4:46 the estate that our three creditors receive
4:50 will always be proportional to the debts.
4:53 Let’s first have a look at the extreme cases.Nothing:)
4:58 an estate of 0 dollars corresponds to three shares
5:01 of 0 dollars each.Makes sense.
5:03 An estate of 600 dollars corresponds to everybody getting all their
5:08 money back.
5:09 Okay.Now what about an estate of 100
5:12 dollars as in the Talmud’s first example.Well,
5:16 100 is one sixth of the total debt of 600 dollars and,
5:20 yep, every creditor receives exactly one sixth of
5:22 what they are owed.Okay what about an estate of
5:26 300 dollars as in the Talmud’s third example.Tick
5:30 again 300 is half of 600 and everybody really
5:32 gets back half of what they are owed.
5:35 Remember this is the same distribution as in the third Talmud scenario.
5:39 However, this is the only one of the
5:41 three scenarios where a proportional distribution of shares is advised.
5:46 Why did the Talmud give
5:48 different rules for smaller estates?
5:51 Let’s investigate further.Actually, at this point let’s
5:55 also cap off the rectangles at the top.
5:58 We’re locking them up so that nobody can ever get more
6:02 money than what they are owed.There all capped off.
6:06 Now before we continue, and so that we’ll
6:11 all be able to appreciate how powerful these
6:14 sorts of water-powered analog computers are at capturing
6:18 complicated bankruptcy setups,
6:19 here is the whole American bankruptcy law at a glance.
6:24 The American bankruptcy law features a hierarchy of
6:27 debts that have to be satisfied in order.
6:30 Government tax is first.
6:31 Nobody gets anything until all tax that is owed has been paid.
6:36 No surprises there:) Then there are the so-called secured claims.
6:41 These are satisfied in a proportional
6:43 way.Trustee expenses are next in line.And finally
6:48 unsecured claims.Such a simple one-glance way to
6:52 visualise a very complicated law, don’t you think?
6:55 Alright we are all impressed,
6:57 aren’t we?
6:59 Now,
6:59 let’s ponder a very different set of containers.With these three containers of
7:08 areas 100, 200, and 300 we can divide estates into equal shares,
7:13 at least to the extent possible.
7:15 For example, an estate of 100gets divided into three equal shares,
7:20 just like in the Talmud.
7:22 An estate of 200also results in equal shares.
7:25 And, 300.Equal shares again.
7:27 In fact, all estates between 0 and
7:30 300 result in equal shares.
7:32 But from here on whatever else happens, the share of the first
7:37 creditor 1 is capped at 100,
7:40 the amount owed.and so on.Now this is not exactly what’s happening in
7:47 the Talmud but there are definitely a number of striking similarities.
7:52 Have another look.So for
7:53 100 we get exactly the same distribution as in
7:57 the Talmud.Everybody gets the same share of the
8:01 estate.
8:01 Next, let’s jump above the first cap.Okay,
8:04 not the same as in the Talmud but the same sort of
8:08 stepping up with creditor 1 maxed out and
8:11 the other two getting the same higher share.
8:14 Also, do you notice something else?
8:16 Yes, all the numbers on the left are exactly double those
8:20 on the right.
8:21 200 times 2 is 400, 50 times 2 is 100, and so on.
8:26 Okay, last example, let’s fill
8:28 up all the way to the top again.Every number on the right gets doubled again.
8:33 300 times 2 is 600.
8:35 50 times 2 is 100, and so on.
8:38 Very interesting, isn't it?Now, doesn’t this doubling business
8:42 suggest a simple way to modify our containers
8:45 to capture exactly what’s happening in the Talmud.
8:49 Can you see it?
8:50 No?
8:50 Well, how about to compensate for the doubling, we simply halve the heights
8:55 of the containers?Let’s check.Works.Works again.Perfect.
8:59 Okay, so there is this very
9:04 simple way of interpolating between the
9:07 three cases considered in the Talmud.But,
9:09 of course, this is just one among infinitely many different sets
9:13 of containers that will give you the Talmud’s
9:16 three distributions on the right.
9:18 Here is another such set.Very unlikely that this monster set is
9:23 what the ancient rabbis had in mind but
9:26 it’s important to realise that just because this
9:28 simple set of containers (click)is a perfect fit,
9:31 does not guarantee that it really is what we are
9:35 looking for.
9:35 Also, currently we have not predicted yet what
9:39 is supposed to happen for estates greater
9:42 than 300, as well as different numbers of creditors and debt amounts.
9:48 Most importantly, we have no clue yet as to the exact
9:52 fairness logic behind this set-up— how exactly would
9:55 the ancient rabbis justify this way of sharing?
9:58 Well, let’s first try to guess what’s most likely
10:01 going to happen beyond estates worth 300.
10:04 Because of the halving, at the moment the three containers
10:09 are each only half the size they are supposed to be.
10:12 Well, there are lots of ways to complete our
10:15 three containers.
10:16 Here is one of them.
10:18 By just doubling up everything, now all the containers
10:21 have the right sizewith the thin
10:24 vertical connections having negligible area again.Well,
10:30 as I will explain,
10:31 what is now believed to be the correct
10:34 solution to the Talmud problem is this one
10:36 here.
10:37 Neat, isn’t it?
10:38 Very pretty, symmetrical and easy to generalise to any number of creditors and
10:43 debt sizes.
10:44 And just to straightaway give you a quick
10:47 taste for why this configuration may be a
10:49 desirable way of arranging a bankruptcy system, have a look at this.
10:54 What does it mean for those
10:57 three grey rectangles to be the same?
10:59 Well, what this means is that the three creditors suffer the
11:03 same loss.
11:04 Right?
11:05 Everybody gets all their money back except for 25 dollars each.So the Talmudic
11:12 system appears to be a compromise between the aims
11:15 of balancing the gains and the losses of
11:17 the creditors.
11:18 And, right in the middle we get a proportional distribution.
11:22 Very satisfying, don’t you think?
11:24 Very satisfying, yes, but how can we be sure that good looks are not deceiving,
11:29 that this is really the bankruptcy system that the Talmud is talking about?
11:34 Well, the best way to
11:35 make sure is to check out what the Talmud has
11:38 to say about other situations where some sort of fair
11:41 sharing is required and how those other scenarios square
11:46 up with what we are considering here :)And
11:49 that’s exactly what mathematicians Aumann and Maschler
11:52 did as part of their analysis.
11:55 Also, these two researchers specialise in a branch of
11:58 mathematics called game theory and what they also
12:01 succeeded in proving is that the Talmudic solution is,
12:04 in a certain natural sense,
12:06 a unique and optimal system of distributing shares.
12:09 We’ll talk about all this in the rest of
12:12 the video.This is what a typical page in
12:17 a modern edition of the Talmud looks like.
12:22 Very interesting isn't it?
12:24 In fact, this is the page that features our bankruptcy problem.
12:27 The oldest part of the
12:29 Talmud is the text right in the middle.Other parts
12:32 have been added by later generations of scholars
12:35 in chronological order from the inside out.
12:38 Like the rings in a tree :)Anyway, in a different part
12:42 of the Talmud we find a discussion of another
12:45 very interesting legal case that can provide us with
12:47 vital insights into the Talmudic logic behind
12:50 the resolution of the bankruptcy problem.Let’s check
12:53 it out.
12:54 As in the case of the bankruptcy problem,
12:57 this legal case starts with a man dying.One
12:59 extra detail.
13:00 He dies childless.
13:02 Now his widowis required to marry her deceased
13:06 husband’s brother.This brother already has two sons
13:10 from his first wife.Eight months later the
13:14 new wife gives birth to another sonand it’s not clear
13:18 whether this baby is the son of her first
13:21 or her second husband.
13:23 Now to make the story even cheerier the second brother dies too.A
13:29 lot of death but that’s not the end:) The two brother’s father,
13:33 the three little ones’ grandad
13:34 is still alive at this stage..But guess what,
13:38 before long he dies too.Very tragic:) Anyway,
13:42 now the grandad’s estate has to be split up among the three children.
13:46 But how?
13:47 Well, if it was certain that the youngest child was
13:51 the second brother’s son,then all three children would
13:53 inherit an equal share of grandad’s estate.If,
13:56 on the other hand, it was certain that the youngest
13:59 is the first brother’s son.Then the youngest would
14:02 get 1/2and the other two children would
14:05 get 1/4th each.Can you see why?
14:07 Right, basically we are sorting out two different family lines,
14:11 entitled to 1/2 each.Kind of makes sense so far.
14:15 But we’re supposing that we don’t know who the
14:18 father of the youngest child is.
14:20 So how should the estate be split up?
14:23 Very interesting problem, right?
14:24 And it’s really amazing how two millennia ago
14:27 people would really tackle this tricky problem
14:29 and would come up with the, in some sense,
14:32 optimal solution.Anyway, here is how this problem is
14:35 resolved in the Talmud.
14:36 Essentially, there are two parties fighting over the estate, the red party
14:40 and the green party.
14:42 The red party’s maximum claim is for 1/2 of the estate.and the green party’s
14:47 maximum claim is for 2/3rd of the estate.Let’s draw
14:51 a diagram.The whole estate is the gray bit in
14:54 the middle.
14:55 Now,
14:55 the Talmud argues that the part of the estate that is claimed by both parties is
15:01 this overlap.On the other hand,
15:03 the gray bit at the top is only claimed by redand the one
15:07 at the bottom is only claimed by green.
15:09 Now the Talmud simply splits the contested part in half.
15:12 And eventually, this results into this split into red and green.
15:17 and a little bit of simple algebra
15:20 acrobatics gives this :)Very interesting and definitely makes sense.
15:24 This resolution is called
15:26 splitting according to the Contested Garment rule.
15:29 It is named after another property battle in the
15:32 Talmud, over a contested garment.In the case of the contested garment,
15:37 one party claims the
15:39 entire garment while the other party claims half.
15:41 We arrive at the final split by the same method.
15:45 First identify the contested part.The top is
15:48 only claimed by red.Split the contested part
15:51 in two equal parts.
15:52 and we arrive at the final split.Cool.
15:55 Now, on the face of it, this garment
15:59 splitting does not seem to have anything
16:01 to do with our original bankruptcy problem.
16:04 However, on closer inspection it’s there staring at us.
16:09 Let me explain.Let’s focus on two payouts, just two
16:15 parties fighting over the loot.Okay, two parties, that’s promising.
16:19 Now let’s think of the total
16:21 payout 50+100 dollars that’s 150 dollars as the
16:25 estate that these two parties are fighting over.
16:28 And let’s translate the debts into claims.
16:31 Again, the total estate is 50+ 100= 150 and 100 is
16:36 2/3rds of that.Now 200 is actually more than
16:39 the whole estate.But in terms of a claim,
16:42 it simply
16:43 amounts to claiming all.Now let’s split according to the contested garment rule.
16:47 What do you expect
16:48 to get?
16:50 Well, let’s see.
16:51 Here is the contested part.The bottom is not contestedSplit the
16:56 contested part in two.There that’s the split.Now remember,
17:00 the total estate was 150.
17:03 And 1/3 of 150
17:05 is 50and 2/3 of 150 is 100.And so we
17:10 arrive back at our original red and green shares.
17:15 Whaaat??
17:16 :)In other words:
17:17 If the two creditors use the Contested Garment Rule to split the amount they
17:21 were jointly awarded, each will get the amount they were actually awarded.
17:26 What a nice surprise,
17:28 don’t you agree?
17:28 And this seems to not be a coincidence because the same turns out to be
17:33 true no matter how we pick two creditors
17:37 and two related payouts from our table.There are
17:40 nine cases in total, all consistent with the contested garment rule.
17:45 We just considered the first case.
17:47 Here is the second, Let’s check again.
17:51 Estate is 50+75, that’s 125.
17:53 100 is 4/5th of that.200 is greater than 125.But
17:57 that just means that green claims all again.Now autopilot
18:02 garment splitting.Now remember, the total estate was 125.
18:09 And 2/5 of 125 is 50and 3/5 is 75.Checks
18:17 out again!
18:17 And as I said, this works for all nine possible combinations in our table.
18:22 We just had a close look at the first two.
18:25 Here is the third combination,the fourth one,and so
18:34 on.Wonderful,
18:34 what all this seems to say is that if faced with a bankruptcy problem,
18:38 we should aim for a split that is consistent with the contested garment rule?
18:45 Okay, but how to do
18:47 this in practise?
18:48 What’s the algorithms to find such a split?Well, if we are just dealing with two
18:54 creditors that’s easy, just apply the contested Garment rule.
18:57 But what about more creditors?
18:58 Is there always a consistent solution?
19:01 And if there is a consistent solution,
19:04 is it unique?
19:05 And if there is a unique consistent solution, how do we find it?
19:09 Well, to answer all
19:10 these questions our special communicating vessels come to
19:17 the rescue.Let’s say we have two arbitrary
19:22 claims.Let’s picture this scenario using a
19:26 system of communicating vessels like before.Then,
19:30 as before,
19:31 the amount of water we pour in corresponds to the estate.Now, let’s perform
19:36 the corresponding contested garment split on the right.
19:40 Okay, there, that’s the estate.and here are
19:43 the claims.We want to convince ourselves that on the right,
19:47 the split of the estate according to
19:50 the contested garment rule is exactly the water split,
19:53 no matter the size of the estate we are
19:56 dealing with.
19:57 Let’s first check this in this simple case.Here both claims are larger than
20:03 the estate in the middle and so both claim all the estate.
20:06 And this means that the whole estate is
20:08 contested.In turn,
20:09 this means that the estate will get split equally between red and green
20:15 exactly like the water does.Great :)Let’s make the estate larger.
20:20 That just means pouring in
20:23 more water.As before both parties claim all and so
20:27 as before the whole estate is contested.And so we
20:30 get another split into two equal halves.But notice that
20:34 we are dealing with a borderline case here,
20:37 both in the water splitting view on the left
20:40 and the garment splitting views on the right.
20:44 Upping the estate a little bitwill take us above the
20:47 lower red part on the leftand for the first time
20:51 will make the red claim smaller than the whole
20:56 estate.Now the contested part is exactly as large
21:00 as the small red claim.And so halfway down the
21:05 red is also where the garment cut will be.Great
21:13 :)Now the argument for why we get the same split on
21:16 the left and right stays the same for a while.
21:19 ThereThereThereAt this point we’ve arrived at the second borderline case.
21:25 Raising the estate slash
21:28 water level furthertakes us into the top part of
21:31 the red container on the leftand on the right,
21:35 both claims are now less than the whole estate.
21:38 How can we see in this case that the water
21:41 also gets us the correct garment split on the right?Well,
21:45 at the top of the two containers on
21:48 the leftare two rectangles of the same height.
21:51 For the moment let’s attach copies of these rectangles
21:54 to the claims on the rightThe red in the middle
21:58 is now equal to the full red claimand the green
22:02 in the middle is now equal to the full
22:05 green claim.And so things are nicely lined up along
22:09 here.This means that when we now simulataneously move
22:13 the two claims back to where they belong,
22:17 it is clear that the long horizontal line on right
22:20 will be right in the middle of the yellow
22:23 overlap.
22:23 And so, again, we can see that the water splits the estate correctly.
22:31 Great :)Okay so where
22:33 does this all leave us in terms of
22:36 solving an arbitrary bankruptcy problem a la Talmud?
22:39 Well, it’s all under control now:) Say we are dealing with
22:43 a couple of debts.Split each of them in two
22:45 equal partsand turn everything in sight into a
22:49 set of our special containers.Pour in the
22:52 amount of water corresponding to the estate in question.Obviously,
22:55 this split of the estate is
22:57 consistent with the contested garment rule in the sense
23:00 that focussing on any two of the creditors,
23:02 like this or like thatyou always see in front
23:05 of you a split conforming to the contested
23:08 garment rule.
23:09 Fantastic :)Also, turns out this overall split of the estate is the
23:16 ONLY possible split that is consistent with the contested garment rule.
23:21 That’s very important, right?
23:23 Because if there were different consistent splits, then we’d be uncertain
23:28 again which one’s the one that the Talmud is talking about.
23:32 Luckily that’s not the case,
23:33 and so our communicating vessels solution must be
23:36 the solution that the Talmud is talking about.
23:38 Great :)Okay, but how can we be sure that there
23:42 cannot be two different consistent splits of an
23:45 estate?
23:45 I am sure that quite a few of you won’t be
23:48 able to sleep tonight if I don’t tell you:) Well,
23:51 here is a quick water-powered proof:Let’s say I
23:55 tell you that we are dealing with a
23:58 distribution of some estate among our creditors
24:01 that is consistent with the contested Garment
24:04 rule.
24:04 And I tell you that the largest creditor receives this much.
24:08 Then, because we are dealing
24:10 with a consistent distribution,
24:12 we can use our special containers to figure out what the shares
24:16 of all other creditors are.
24:18 Right?
24:19 There,That creditor on the left must get this much.And
24:23 that one theremust receive this much,and so on.And
24:27 so it is clear that any consistent
24:30 solution is the one given by our special set-up.
24:34 Also, it’s clear that the larger the estate,
24:37 the higher the water level.
24:38 And this implies that for every possible estate there is a
24:42 unique split of the estate that is consistent with the contested garment rule.
24:46 Nifty proof, don’t you think?Well, and that’s pretty much it for today.
24:57 Just a few more remarks.Maybe,
25:01 after watching this video, you got the impression that the bankruptcy problem
25:05 isn’t all that hard and shouldn’t have
25:07 remained unsolved for nearly two millennia.
25:09 However, keep in mind that what I’ve presented here is a clean,
25:13 visually optimized, Mathologer-style path
25:15 to the solution—one that owes much of its beauty
25:18 and simplicity to hindsight and the ingenious idea
25:21 of representing things in terms of communicating
25:25 vessels :)Without the communicating vessels idea
25:27 in our repertoire,
25:28 grappling with and discussing the bankruptcy problem quickly becomes very messy.
25:33 If you explore the relevant academic papers,
25:35 you’ll often find them to be a dense thicket
25:38 of case distinctions and inequalities :)Also,
25:42 of course Jewish courts have been solving bankruptcy
25:46 problems for thousands of years just fine
25:49 using a combination of textual analysis,
25:51 moral reasoning, and pragmatic compromise.
25:54 While their solutions may not always align perfectly with
25:58 the mathematically optimal solution presented in this video,
26:00 they were likely just as effective—or
26:02 even better suited—to the specific circumstances of the
26:07 cases in question.I never gave much thought
26:10 to bankruptcy problems before this video,
26:12 nor did I question the idea that proportional distribution
26:15 is the best solution.
26:17 But now, I actually see the Talmudic approach as superior in many real-life
26:22 situations :)It values each creditor equally
26:26 while considering individual claims under
26:29 reasonable constraints,
26:30 whereas proportional allocation treats every dollar as equal,
26:34 regardless of who holds it.
26:36 Especially, in a David vs.
26:38 Goliath creditor scenario, with poor
26:40 David being owed one dollar and the bank a million dollars,
26:45 the Talmudic system seems far more fair
26:47 to me :)Overall, with all the containers split evenly,
26:52 the Talmudic solution reminds me of the
26:55 classic dilemma: is a half-filled glass half full or half empty?
26:59 Aumann and Maschler explain the
27:01 Talmudic approach this way:
27:03 they suggest that half of the total claim, representing half a container,
27:07 serves as a psychological threshold between two perspectives.
27:11 If a creditor receives less than
27:13 half of their claim,they focus on the loss—seeing the
27:17 situation as a complete loss with only a small
27:20 portion salvaged.
27:21 If a creditor receives more than half,they focus on what they recovered,
27:26 perceiving it as a full repayment with a minor shortfall.
27:30 And so when the estate is less than
27:32 half of the total claims, all creditors are in a total loss scenario.
27:38 The fairest approach is to
27:40 divide the available amount equally, based on half their claims.
27:44 On the other hand,
27:45 when the estate exceeds half of the total claims,
27:49 all creditors experience a partial loss,
27:52 so the remaining funds are distributed to balance out their losses,
27:55 again using half their claims
27:57 as a reference.
27:58 Makes sense, right?
27:59 Also, notice how the horizontal flip symmetry of the Talmudic
28:03 solution reflects the idea that the Talmud
28:06 treats loss and gain as equally important.Finally,
28:10 I also mentioned that our solution has an interesting game-theoretic aspect.
28:16 Imagine locking all creditors in a room and asking
28:19 them to agree on how to divide the estate.
28:21 There’s a catch: if they can’t agree, no one gets anything.
28:25 Plus, if any creditor is offered 100% of their claim,
28:28 they must accept and leave.
28:30 This setup mirrors real-world bargaining scenarios often studied
28:33 in economics.Aumann and Maschler analysed
28:36 the Talmudic bankruptcy problem through
28:39 this lens.
28:40 They showed that, under reasonable assumptions,
28:42 the creditors would naturally reach
28:44 an agreement that aligns perfectly with the Talmud’s proposed solution.
28:48 In other words, the Talmud’s method isn’t just an
28:52 arbitrary rule—it’s exactly what rational creditors
28:55 would agree upon if given enough
28:58 time and fair bargaining conditions.Mathematically,
29:01 this is connected to a concept in game theory
29:05 called the nucleolus of the bankruptcy game.
29:08 The nucleolus is a way of dividing up the
29:12 estate ensuring that no creditor feels disproportionately disadvantaged
29:16 compared to others.
29:17 It minimises the largest dissatisfaction among all creditors, making
29:21 it the fairest possible outcome under cooperative bargaining rules.
29:25 For the hardcore ones among you
29:28 I’ve included some extra material about all this after the credits,
29:32 at the very end of this video.
29:35 Check it out if you dare :)In any case,
29:39 isn’t it really fascinating that the Talmudic authors
29:41 figured out this optimal bargaining solution more
29:44 than 2000 years before game theorists
29:47 formally defined it!
29:48 Pretty remarkable, right?
29:50 :)Finally I’d like to thank Tamas Fleiner for
29:54 telling me about the bankruptcy problem and the
29:57 ingenious water-powered way of making sense of it,
30:01 and for all his help in sorting out the details:)?
30:16 And that’s it for today.
30:23 Until next time :)You are still here?
31:55 Very good!
31:56 Alright, and so to really finish off for today, let me tell
32:01 you in what sense the Talmudic solution is
32:03 also a mathematically optimal solution to a bankruptcy
32:06 problem.
32:07 Say the estate in our original 3-creditor
32:11 bankruptcy problem is 400 dollars.Of course,
32:14 in theory,
32:15 there are lots and lots of different ways in which we can divvy up the estate
32:18 among the creditors.
32:19 We want to identify the so-called nucleolus of the bankruptcy problem,
32:25 a distribution that in a precise sense maximises the
32:29 level of happiness of all the creditors with
32:32 what they receive.
32:33 For this we need a way to measure happiness.Here is one way of doing this:
32:39 Let’s first list all the different ways in which
32:42 the creditors can team up against everybody else
32:46 to maximise their common share,
32:48 as it’s often done when mathematically modelling these sorts
32:52 of problems.
32:53 In our example,
32:54 there are six such coalitions.Underneath those coalitions, let’s note
32:59 down their worst case outcomes in dollars.To
33:02 explain where those numbers come from,
33:04 let’s first focus on the coalition that just consists of
33:09 creditor 1.Why is creditor 1’s worst case outcome
33:12 0 dollars.
33:13 Well, what’s the worst thing that can happen from this creditor’s perspective?
33:17 Of course,
33:18 that everybody else gets as much of the money as they can possibly get:) Well,
33:23 everybody else, that’s creditors 2 and 3 together,
33:27 they are owed 200+300= 500 dollars.
33:29 And, so, if all 400 dollars first goes to them, then creditor 1 gets nothing.
33:35 And so the worst case outcome for creditor 1 is 0 dollars.
33:39 Another example.
33:40 Let’s consider the coalition
33:41 consisting of creditor 1 and creditor 3.Worst case outcome?
33:45 Who is everybody else in this case?
33:47 Well, that’s just creditor 2.
33:49 If creditor 2 who is owed 200 maxes out first, then there is only 400-200,
33:56 that’s 200 dollars left for creditor 1 and 3 together.
34:01 Okay, next step.Let’s note down how
34:04 much each possible coalition gets if we distribute
34:08 the estate as prescribed by the Talmud.
34:10 Okay, so just pour 400 into our system of containers.And
34:16 so this is what the different teams get.Just as
34:21 in any possible distribution whatsoever,
34:22 all the Talmud numbers are greater or equal to the
34:26 worst case numbers.
34:27 Clear, right?
34:28 Worst case means real shares cannot be less.Now to roughly measure
34:33 the happiness of a coalition,
34:34 we simply subtract their worst case number from their Talmud number.
34:38 Okay50-0 that’s 50125-0 is 125and so on.It’s
34:43 definitely a very rough measure of happiness
34:48 but at the same time makes at least some sense, right?
34:50 Anyway, according to this way of measuring
34:51 the happiness of the individual coalitions with the Talmud’s allocation,
34:51 the coalition consisting of creditor 1 alone is the least happy with
34:51 a happiness score of 50 and the teams consisting
34:51 just of creditor 2 and just of creditor 3 are the happiest,
34:52 both with a happiness score of 125.Okay,
34:52 now how are we going to use these
34:55 happiness scores to figure out which distributions
34:58 optimise happiness overall?
34:59 For that we first order the happiness scores from small to large,
35:05 from sadest to happiest.Getting there.
35:08 Now, let’s imagine populating an infinite spreadsheet with
35:12 the happiness scores of all the infinitely many
35:16 possible distributions of the estate among the
35:19 three creditors.There that’s our spreadsheet.
35:21 Just for fun, let’s just highlight one more
35:24 row in this spreadsheet,
35:26 say the proportional distribution one.Okay last step, let’s sort our
35:31 monster spreadsheet.
35:31 First column B highest to lowest, then column C highest to lowest,
35:37 and so on.
35:38 Basically what we are doing here is putting things into lexicographic order.
35:43 And so the larger the least happiness score of a distribution,
35:46 the higher up this distribution will
35:48 end up in the table.
35:50 And, among the distributions with the same least happiness score, the ranking
35:53 is determined by the second least happiness score,
35:56 and so on.Now the remarkable thing, first observed
36:00 and proved by Aumann and Maschler, is that, after sorting,
36:03 the Talmud ends up at the very top of the
36:06 table.
36:06 And so in this very precise sense
36:09 the Talmud’s distribution maximises the minimal
36:12 happiness among all creditors,
36:15 or equivalently minimises the largest dissatisfaction among all
36:21 creditors, making it the fairest possible outcome.
36:24 Definitely a very neat result, don’t you think?
36:28 :)What about the proof?
36:30 As Tamas pointed out to me, also surprisingly intuitive if we use our
36:35 visual tricks of thinking about these problems.
36:39 Let me finish by sketching Tamas and Balázs
36:43 Sziklai’s proof.
36:43 Baláz is one of Tamas’s former PhD students.
36:47 I link to the relevant paper in the
36:50 description of this video.
36:52 Start with the simplest case of two creditors.
36:57 It’s best to consider this
36:59 case using the contested garment view.There, usual story.
37:03 Estate in the middle and the two claims on
37:08 either side.
37:08 Worst case for red is that green gets
37:11 everything and red only gets the uncontested red
37:15 part.Similarly the worst case for green is that
37:20 green only get the uncontested green part.This
37:23 also means that every possible split of the estate
37:25 in this scenario has to occur in the
37:27 contested part.But then the happiness score of red for
37:33 one of these distributions is the area of the
37:38 rectangle above the barand the happiness score of
37:42 green is the area of this rectangle.But now
37:45 for the split to be optimal in the lexicographic order,
37:49 we need the minimum of those two happiness
37:52 scores to be maximal.
37:53 And obviously that’s the case exactly when the two happiness scores are
37:56 equal.And, as you remember,
37:57 this is exactly the case when we are dealing with the Talmud solution.
38:01 Neat how everything falls into place, don’t you think?
38:04 Now, if we think about this 2-creditor
38:06 setup in the communicating vessel view,
38:11 things looks like this.Any other distribution of the
38:17 estate fitted in these containers would result
38:20 in different water levels.On the other hand,
38:22 by having water flow from the container with the
38:25 higher water level into that with the lower
38:27 water level,
38:27 as the water flows…the ranking of the different distributions we come across
38:33 will rise in our spreadsheet until it reaches the optimal solution.
38:38 Something similar turns out to be true in general.
38:41 For example, in our 3-creditor example, fill our special containers
38:44 with a possible distribution of the estate.Then the
38:47 water levels will be at different levels,
38:49 some above and some below the common water level
38:53 of the Talmud solution.Now pick two containers,
38:56 one with the water level above and one below, say these two.Then,
39:00 as in the case of the 2-creditor setup,
39:04 let water flow from the high level container to
39:07 the low-level container until at least one of
39:10 the water levels coincides with the common water level of the Talmud solution.
39:15 Then it turns out
39:17 that the new distribution of the estate will have
39:19 a higher ranking in the spreadsheet than the one
39:22 we started with.Now just repeat this levelling operation a
39:24 couple of times and you arrive at the
39:27 Talmud solution.
39:28 Since at every levelling step the ranking goes up
39:31 or at least does not go down this
39:34 proves that the Talmud solution is at the very top of the spreadsheet.
39:40 What an amazingly slick proof,
39:42 don’t you think?Challenge for the keen among you:
39:44 fill in the details of the proof that I skipped in
39:46 the comments.
39:47 Alright, and this is really all for today.
39:51 Also make sure to leave a comment saying
39:54 that you made it all the way to the very end
39:56 :)Why is that?Since we are not dealing with the Talmud
39:57 distribution, the water levels are not the same everywhere.
39:57 Then we can prove that by letting some
39:58 water from a high level tank into a low level one,
39:58 the ranking of our distribution with improve.
39:58 And if n is the number of creditors,
39:58 we can also prove that by performing this levelling out maneuvre at
39:59 most n times we can guarantee to reach the Talmud distribution.
39:59 This then finishes the proof that
39:59 the Talmud distribution is optimal.What, you are still here?
40:00 Okay, you are asking for it.
40:00 Here are the gory details of the proof.
40:00 What’s the happiness score of a team in terms of what
40:00 we see in front of us?
40:01 For example, what’s the happiness score of the coalition consisting of
40:01 creditors 1 and 2?The answer is very simple:
40:01 The happiness score is the smaller of two numbers:
40:02 the first number is the total amount of water
40:02 in the containers of creditors 1 and 2and the
40:02 second number is the total amount of air
40:02 in the containers of the competition.In this case,
40:03 there is less air and the amount of air is 75.
40:03 And so the happiness score for our coalition is
40:03 75.
40:03 Challenge for you.
40:03 Fill in the proof in the comments that this really always works.Alright,
40:04 And a communicating vessels based proof of
40:04 this surprising fact is also fairly easy.
40:04 Here is a sketch.
40:04 Let’s take any distribution of the estate and plus
40:05 the little tubes at the bottom of our
40:05 comunicating vessels and fill the creditor 1 2
40:05 3 containers with the new distribution of the
40:05 estate.
40:05 For example,
40:06 here is what you get in the case of the proportional distribution.Note
40:06 that with this non-Talmud distribution the water level is all over the place.