AOC Just Revealed Where The Left Is Headed Next

AOC Just Revealed Where The Left Is Headed Next

Ben Shapiro

0:00 Envy, as we all know, it is one of the seven deadly sins.

0:04 And yet, if you are a Democrat these days, it may be the only virtue.

0:08 See, here's the thing.

0:09 The natural state of human beings, poverty, misery, and death.

0:13 This was the natural state of human

0:15 beings for literally tens of thousands of years.

0:18 And then, it came this thing called

0:19 private property and governments that formed to protect

0:22 that private property and free markets that formed

0:25 to trade and invest and grow that private property.

0:27 And now, we all live better than the richest man on Earth did just

0:31 100 years ago or 80 years ago or even 60 years ago, by far.

0:35 But, for the Democrats, that system,

0:37 free markets, is evil and immoral and wrong.

0:41 Not because free markets have produced poverty or misery, far from it.

0:45 But, because there are a lot of people who envy those who create wealth.

0:49 They envy the people who innovate, compete, and win.

0:52 I've called them the scavengers before, and now,

0:54 those folks may be on the verge of victory here in the United States.

0:58 And I've got the proof.

0:59 We'll get into that.

0:59 Plus, whether you should be worried about hantavirus,

1:02 what President Trump can do to end the war in Iran victoriously,

1:05 and why Mark Hamill has fallen to the hate of the dark side.

1:10 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.

1:17 [music] All righty, so I want to begin with hantavirus.

1:21 I know there are people who are

1:21 freaking out about hantavirus, lots of headlines.

1:24 Is it the new co- No, it's not the new COVID.

1:26 Stop it.

1:27 Just stop.

1:28 Okay, so what happened is there is a cruise ship called the MV Handius.

1:32 And according to the WHO,

1:34 and I know the minute I say the World Health Organization,

1:36 you throw up your hands and start screaming like

1:38 a banshee because they did such a horrible job on COVID.

1:41 Agreed.

1:42 Agreed.

1:43 But, here's the information we have thus far.

1:45 Eight cases have been reported, including three deaths.

1:48 Five of the eight cases were confirmed as hantavirus.

1:52 So, the hantavirus involved is the Andes virus.

1:55 This is the only species known

1:57 to be capable of limited transmission between humans.

1:59 It's linked to close and prolonged contact.

2:02 Typically, hantavirus is transmitted by somebody ingesting rat poop.

2:06 Basically, apparently the way this started is that some

2:08 of the people who were aboard this cruise

2:10 ship got off the cruise ship in Argentina and they went to a dump to bird-watch.

2:15 Folks, don't go to places where there's tons of poop.

2:17 It's just not a great thing to do.

2:19 It's just not great.

2:20 Anyway, so people got back on the ship and tragically,

2:23 there were some people who had hantavirus

2:24 and it started passing person to person, apparently.

2:28 Now, this Andes strain apparently has a mortality rate of something like 40%,

2:34 which is super scary, right?

2:35 The COVID mortality rate was extremely low.

2:38 The Andes strain of hantavirus has a mortality rate of 40%,

2:42 meaning if 10 people get it, four will die.

2:44 However, according to the CDC and the WHO,

2:48 hantavirus has a reproduction number of less than one.

2:51 Now, again, I know this brings back bad memories.

2:53 We all have PTSD from the COVID days.

2:56 The R rate is the rate at which it is easy spreads.

2:59 If it is less than one, it will die out.

3:02 If it is more than one, it may slightly grow.

3:04 The flu is like 1.2.

3:06 COVID was like four at times,

3:09 like last strains of COVID, meaning it spread really, really fast.

3:13 Now, there's a weird thing about viruses,

3:14 which is the more deadly they are, typically speaking,

3:17 the lower the reproduction rate because you die

3:20 before you can pass it on to other people.

3:23 And very often, you only get a a very deadly

3:28 form of a disease from a person who is symptomatic.

3:31 That is true of hantavirus.

3:32 The incubation period is something like 1 to 8 weeks, anywhere in there,

3:35 but during that incubation period,

3:37 when it's just kind of growing in your body, it is not contagious.

3:40 So, only when it starts to manifest, which is pretty severe, is it contagious.

3:47 So, you're not going to be going

3:49 out to birthday parties typically with hantavirus.

3:52 Right?

3:52 Once it starts to actually harm you, once you start to be really,

3:54 really sick, you are going to be in a hospital.

3:57 You're going to be stuck in your bedroom, right?

3:59 You are not going to be out there partying it up.

4:01 A cruise ship is a different story because obviously,

4:03 even as you become symptomatic,

4:05 you're in close contact for prolonged periods of time with other human beings.

4:11 From 1993 to 2003, there were about 890

4:14 cases of hantavirus reported in the United States.

4:16 About 35% of those resulted in death.

4:19 Again, that those were mostly not human-to-human.

4:22 So, here is a timeline of what happened here.

4:25 March 20th, the ship departed Argentina.

4:29 By April 6th, the first passenger had started getting sick.

4:32 The ill passenger, who was 70 years old, died on board.

4:35 The ship then docked in St.

4:36 Helena and 23 passengers got off.

4:40 Then the wife of the dead passenger also died.

4:42 Again, close contact for prolonged period of time.

4:44 And then a third passenger, a British man,

4:46 became seriously ill and was medically evacuated in South Africa.

4:50 A German woman died on board and a British

4:51 man became the first to test positive for hantavirus.

4:55 That is full on a month later.

4:59 And then the ship denied docking at Cape

5:01 Verde and the Dutch woman's body tested positive.

5:04 And then a departed passenger tested positive in Switzerland.

5:06 Some people, you know, got on planes, they flew.

5:10 The ship is now headed for the Canary Islands.

5:12 Okay, but the chances that this is like a pandemic level hantavirus,

5:18 that it's human-to-human contact,

5:19 that somebody went to a birthday party and spread it everywhere,

5:22 very, very, very low.

5:24 So again, I always hesitate now because of the poison that is

5:27 the WHO in the public discourse to bring sources from the WHO.

5:31 That's how bad they are at their jobs and how

5:33 horribly they abuse the trust of the American people.

5:36 But here is the WHO director of pandemic prevention,

5:38 a woman named Maria Van Kerkhove.

5:43 This is not coronavirus.

5:45 Uh this is a very different virus.

5:47 We know this virus.

5:48 Hantaviruses have been around for quite a while.

5:51 There's a lot of detail that we know.

5:52 I'm going to ask N A E to come

5:53 in and say this, but I want to be unequivocal here.

5:56 This is not SARS-CoV-2.

5:58 This is not the start of a COVID pandemic.

6:00 This is an outbreak that we see on a ship.

6:02 There's a confined area.

6:03 We have five confirmed cases so far.

6:08 Okay, so should you be masking up?

6:09 No.

6:10 Should you be worrying about shutting down your business?

6:11 No.

6:12 Should you be worrying about sending your kids to school?

6:14 No.

6:14 You should go about your life.

6:16 The media have an incentive to act as though every

6:20 new hantavirus or disease is going to turn into COVID.

6:24 And let's be real, even COVID wasn't COVID,

6:26 meaning the way that the media portrayed COVID that it had an exorbitantly

6:30 high death rate that it was going to kill legitimately millions of people,

6:35 particularly young people.

6:37 It turns out that a lot of that was exaggerated,

6:39 particularly in the United States.

6:40 The early estimates were just wrong.

6:42 There was so much bad data.

6:44 And it abused the trust of the American people.

6:45 Anthony Fauci abused the trust of the American people.

6:48 Hell, Pfizer in its initial statements about the the efficacy

6:51 of the vaccine in stopping transmission abused the trust of the American people.

6:56 Do not be taken in by the media panic that is

6:58 currently happening about hantavirus because there is no evidence at this point.

7:02 Now, the evidence can change, but at this point there is zero evidence

7:05 that you should be freaked out about this hantavirus.

7:08 In a second, we'll get to AOC declaring that billionaires are illegitimate.

7:12 I mean, she knows economics.

7:14 She did take tips as a bartender.

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8:18 Okay, now speaking of viruses that will not die,

8:21 the virus of socialist envy never dies.

8:24 It never ever dies.

8:26 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a beneficiary of America's free market system.

8:32 I mean, listen, America's fabulous.

8:33 America is so fabulous that you can be

8:35 a complete dullard and be incredibly rich and powerful.

8:38 And truly, it's an incredible thing.

8:41 There are people who have made a bajillion dollars in the United

8:43 States who in any other country would be the village idiot.

8:49 And it's not because they're stealing money from people.

8:51 Hey, AOC she is widely considered a possible New York Senate candidate.

8:57 She may run against Chuck Schumer.

8:59 Maybe she'll run for president.

9:01 Well, she was on a podcast with a human called Ilana Glazer.

9:04 They, she, a comedian, actor, advocate, and creator.

9:09 She recently made her Broadway debut in the stage

9:11 adaptation of Good Night and Good Luck.

9:13 And again, another person benefiting from the fact that the United States is

9:16 rich enough to pay people a lot of money to do dumb things.

9:20 In any case AOC made the rather incredible statement

9:24 that it is not possible to earn a billion dollars.

9:26 Apparently, in AOC's dumb brain there is a cutoff point.

9:31 So, you can earn $100,000.

9:33 Maybe you can earn a million dollars,

9:34 but it's not possible to earn a billion dollars.

9:36 We don't know exactly where that cutoff point is.

9:38 Is it 500 million and $1?

9:41 Where is the cutoff point?

9:42 But here is her explanation.

9:46 There's a certain level of wealth and accumulation that is unearned.

9:52 Right?

9:54 You can't earn a billion dollars.

9:58 That's right.

9:58 You just can't earn that.

10:00 That's exactly correct.

10:08 Uh the amount of brainpower in that room could toast a piece of bread lightly.

10:13 Absolute oatmeal for brains over there.

10:16 You cannot earn a billion Absolutely you can earn a billion dollars.

10:19 In fact, the way that you earn a billion dollars in the private sector is

10:23 you provide goods and services to millions of people that they want to pay for.

10:27 That is how you earn a billion dollars.

10:29 You innovate a new product, lots of people want it,

10:31 and then they pay you for it.

10:33 That is how you make money.

10:35 But again, this sort of stupidity has become de rigueur for the left.

10:39 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez then pushed this further.

10:42 She said, "The single largest form of theft in America is wage theft.

10:46 $50 billion a year are stolen from American workers." Now,

10:49 she's not talking here about the wage theft of the government coming

10:52 in and literally confiscating a giant chunk of your paycheck every month.

10:55 She thinks it is wage theft for companies

10:59 to not pay wages that she thinks they should pay.

11:01 She says, "If a billionaire amasses

11:03 their wealth by underpaying their full-time workers

11:05 so severely they must rely on food

11:07 assistance and government programs to survive,

11:09 then no, that wealth was not earned by one individual.

11:11 It was a wealth transfer subsidized by underpaid American

11:14 workers and the public who got stuck with the bill

11:16 for large corporations free riding off our systems."

11:19 She's not making the argument she thinks she's making.

11:22 She really is not.

11:24 I half agree.

11:26 If you pay people to stay home, or if you pay to supplement people's wages,

11:32 that means that there is a downward pressure

11:34 on wages because someone else is paying half the wages.

11:38 That is an argument against government subsidization of wages.

11:42 That is not an argument in favor of prying

11:45 more money somehow out of the private employer.

11:48 She says, "The point is less about individual morality.

11:51 It's more about how our current economic reality of shattering inequality

11:54 rewards screwing over workers and exploiting essential systems at scale." Again,

12:00 the way to get wages up would be to reduce government dependency.

12:05 That would be the way.

12:08 She says, "We're talking about monopoly power." She

12:09 doesn't know what she's talking about monopoly power.

12:12 This idea that billionaires are

12:14 billionaires because they have quote-unquote monopolies,

12:17 the only true monopoly in a free market system is a monopoly

12:20 in which you get the government to regulate your competitors out of existence.

12:24 That is how monopoly actually works.

12:27 Rent seeking, wage theft, profiteering,

12:29 stock buybacks, destabilizing house markets.

12:33 I mean, again, profiteering?

12:35 Do you mean like charging people for a product or service?

12:38 Stock buybacks Stock buybacks are not a form of monopoly power.

12:42 What is she talking about?

12:44 Companies using SNAP or EBT to underwrite their wages.

12:48 Again, that is a critique of the SNAP EBT perverse incentives.

12:51 Massive government subsidies or contracts

12:53 to corporations following lobbying and dark

12:55 money in politics with little to no oversight or accountability.

12:58 I agree with that.

12:59 But that is a capitalist point, not a socialist point.

13:03 More government control equals more corruption, duh.

13:06 Some people get enraged I draw attention to this.

13:08 That's on them.

13:09 Let's let them call me shrill, dumb, inexperienced, girly, or uneducated.

13:13 I'm not calling her girly, she is a girl.

13:15 I'm calling her shrill, dumb, inexperienced, and uneducated.

13:17 She is all of those things.

13:19 These folks will say anything to distract from or undercut

13:21 the truth that working people are getting screwed

13:23 and giving people a fair shake means we must

13:25 have a grown conversation about reigning in abuse of power.

13:27 So, first of all, it has always been

13:29 a Marxist lie that capitalism impoverishes the worker.

13:33 It is not true.

13:33 It has never been true.

13:36 It was something Karl Marx argued back

13:38 during the Industrial Revolution that the impoverishment

13:41 of wage earners would result

13:43 from capitalism and precisely the opposite occurred.

13:45 Every prediction Marx ever made about the future state of the world was wrong.

13:49 All of them.

13:50 Which is why in order to achieve his vision,

13:52 governments eventually had to just kill tens of millions of human beings.

13:56 Because it turns out that Marx's predictions about the future,

14:00 his supposed prophetic powers, were untrue.

14:04 He projected that there would be a gigantic class struggle.

14:07 Never happened.

14:09 He projected that capitalism would impoverish everyone.

14:12 Didn't happen.

14:14 He projected that workers would get poorer.

14:16 Didn't happen.

14:18 But again, all that Marxism is really rooted in in the end

14:22 is not rooted in any thoroughgoing understanding of economics or human nature.

14:26 It is rooted in pure envy.

14:28 Pure unadulterated envy.

14:31 AOC cites to Bernie Sanders as the founder of the movement.

14:35 Again, citing some of the most useless people on Earth

14:37 as the founders of your movement is is a move.

14:40 Here here is AOC.

14:43 You know, Bernie Sanders I think was the first to puncture through

14:46 with this messaging to the mainstream

14:49 to mainstream America and you're really his successor.

14:52 You speak in such clear and simple language.

14:55 So obviously spontaneous,

14:57 genuine from your lived experience which is so different.

15:01 I mean, you know, I'm laughing but it's it's honestly terrifying how most uh I

15:06 would say the majority of elected officials do

15:09 not reflect the lived experience of their constituents.

15:12 When did this come into your consciousness?

15:15 This system being rigged for the ultra-wealthy?

15:19 Well, first I want to say in a lot of ways we're all kind of Bernie successor.

15:24 [laughter] Mhm.

15:25 Again, there is no one who's been a bigger

15:27 leech on the ass of American society than Bernie Sanders.

15:29 The man has not held a productive job for literally 80 years.

15:33 For 80 years, he has lived and sponged off the taxpayer.

15:36 It's incredible.

15:38 I mean, by the way, Bernie is the kind of person who

15:40 is now going after Sergey Brin for the great crime of founding Google.

15:44 Quote, "Google founder Sergey Brin's wealth has

15:46 doubled to $311 billion since Trump's election.

15:49 Now he's spending 57 million to oppose

15:51 a 5% billionaires wealth tax in California.

15:54 He'd rather millions lose health care than pay his fair share in taxes.

15:57 This kind of arrogance is unacceptable." Again, unacceptable according to whom?

16:01 You're a tyrant.

16:02 Tyrant.

16:03 And by the way, it is you who are arrogant

16:05 because you believe you are entitled to Sergey Brin's wealth.

16:08 By the way, wealth he isn't even cashed out on.

16:11 The predictable result of all of this, by the way,

16:12 as we'll get to in a little while, is people will flee California.

16:15 Anyone who can earn is fleeing California at this point.

16:19 In the end, this is all rooted in a fundamental

16:21 misunderstanding of how the world works or envy or both.

16:26 Kamala Harris, I don't know.

16:27 Is she stupid?

16:28 Is she Is she corrupt?

16:30 Is she Is she promoting evil?

16:32 Maybe all three.

16:34 She does this through the This is the thing

16:35 that people like AOC or Bernie or Kamala will do.

16:38 They will posit a utopian world in which good things happen.

16:42 And then they will say, "If that world does not exist,

16:46 it doesn't exist because of a system I don't like." So,

16:50 here she was saying that you know,

16:53 she should be able to basically dictate wages.

16:55 Here we go.

16:57 But a revival.

17:00 And what does that look like?

17:02 Well, where if you work a 40-hour week,

17:08 you can afford your rent and food on the table

17:12 and maybe a vacation from time to time.

17:15 Not scraping to get by, praying you can get through the end of the month.

17:21 Okay, I mean, that is so vague as to be utterly worthless.

17:25 Okay, should is doing a lot of work there.

17:28 First of all, the vast majority of people in the United

17:30 States who work a 40-hour week are affording rent.

17:32 They're not living on the streets.

17:33 They're affording rent.

17:35 It may be too expensive.

17:36 They may not like it.

17:37 But the vast majority of human beings

17:39 in the United States can afford rent on their salary.

17:41 By afford, I mean they're not homeless.

17:43 And they can afford food, because starvation in the United States is at zero.

17:47 No one is starving to death in the United States.

17:50 And so we can start with that.

17:51 But again, what socialists do, what people who hate free markets do,

17:55 is they posit that there should be I mean, I can do it, too.

17:58 You know, if you work 40 hours a week in the United States,

18:01 you should be able to afford a six-bedroom mansion in Bel Air.

18:06 You should also be able to afford a cruise around the world without hand,

18:10 foot, and mouth virus.

18:11 And a private jet.

18:13 If you work 40 hours a week,

18:14 you should be in a better world, you would be able to do that.

18:17 And the only thing stopping you is this system I don't like.

18:21 It's just crap.

18:23 It's just nonsense.

18:25 It's being practiced, by the way, out in California.

18:28 I mean, in California, they're trying to do this.

18:31 And coming up, we'll be

18:31 joined by California's Republican gubernatorial candidate.

18:35 Is he the next governor?

18:37 Why is California falling apart?

18:38 We'll get to it with Steve Hilton in a moment.

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19:41 In California, they're pushing hard for the idea

19:44 that if they destroy the wealth creators,

19:46 that somehow this will magically fix everything.

19:48 One of the people who is running against that is Steve Hilton.

19:51 You know him from Fox News, conservative political commentator,

19:54 former political advisor, and now candidate for governor of California.

19:57 In the polls, the frontrunner at the moment.

19:59 Steve, thanks so much for joining the show.

20:00 Really appreciate it.

20:03 Classic to be with you.

20:03 I love what you've been saying, Ben.

20:04 It's fantastic.

20:05 Can I add one little dimension to what you've been saying, which is taxes.

20:10 So, at the same time as all

20:11 of this going on, which you correctly describe there,

20:16 you've got, because of the tax system,

20:19 low-paid workers, the ones that Kamala Harris

20:21 and all these people profess to care about,

20:23 certainly in California, paying massive taxes to the government.

20:26 And the employers that are allegedly impoverishing

20:29 these workers also paying massive taxes to the government,

20:33 which are then recycled in these handouts.

20:35 I'll just give you the numbers.

20:36 In California, there are a number of counties now where,

20:40 because of the cost of living being so high because of Democrat policies,

20:43 the official definition of low income is $100,000 a year.

20:49 So, you got people, because the California tax system, earning 70,

20:52 80, 90 grand a year, low income, paying 9.3% state income tax.

20:58 That is higher than the top rate of tax in most states in America.

21:02 What have they got to say about that?

21:03 Nothing.

21:04 My plan, on the other hand, is to reduce taxes for those people,

21:08 eliminating state income tax for everyone earning a hundred grand or below.

21:11 And so, these people just don't think about the actual system.

21:15 They want more and more taxes, more and more government,

21:17 and then they complain that the workers aren't getting paid

21:20 enough even as they're taking more money out of their pockets.

21:24 It is it's totally insane.

21:25 I was just in California a little bit earlier this week,

21:27 and I was looking at the gas prices in California, and you have, you know,

21:30 people in California complaining about it's the Iran

21:32 war that's making the gas prices go up.

21:34 Well, it's weird, cuz I live here in Florida, and yeah,

21:35 gas is a little more expensive than it was

21:37 a couple of months ago before the war started,

21:40 but I noticed that per gallon over here $3.95 a gallon, $3.90 a gallon,

21:45 and then I'm in LA, and I'm looking at seven bucks a gallon.

21:48 That is not happening because of the Iran war.

21:50 That is be hap- happening because

21:51 of the horrific governance in the state of California,

21:53 and it's a regressive tax, because you know who can afford an electric car?

21:57 Rich people.

21:57 You know who can't afford an electric car?

21:59 Everybody who's a wage earner.

22:02 Exactly.

22:02 I mean, that's why the first pledge in my campaign,

22:05 about a year ago when I started, was $3 gas,

22:07 because at the time, before the war,

22:10 you had 40 states in America where gas was $3 or below.

22:14 Most of them with no oil reserves.

22:16 California has abundant oil reserves,

22:19 yet because of their insane virtue signaling about

22:23 clamping down on fossil fuels and ending fossil fuels,

22:26 they are ending California production of fossil fuels, that's for sure.

22:29 But the overall consumption of fossil fuels in California since their war

22:33 on fossil fuels is about the same as it ever was.

22:35 Except now, we are importing it from halfway around the world.

22:38 Our number one provider of oil right now used to be

22:41 California when we got most of it from in state.

22:44 Number one provider now, Iraq.

22:46 These geniuses, in the name of climate change,

22:48 are now shipping oil halfway around the world,

22:51 7,500 miles from Iraq in giant supertankers,

22:54 spewing out carbon emissions because they run on the dirtiest form of fuel,

22:58 bunker fuel, in the name of climate.

23:00 They're literally increasing carbon emissions in the name of climate.

23:04 Another example, um the the oil that works

23:06 with California refineries is a heavier form of crude oil.

23:10 A good match for that, the oil you get in South America.

23:13 So again, in the name of Gavin Newsom's climate policy,

23:16 we are now expanding oil drilling in the Amazon rainforest in order to provide

23:21 oil to California because they refuse to actually get it from within California,

23:26 in the process shutting down our energy industry and destroying

23:29 jobs in the rural areas of California like Kern County,

23:32 which they don't care about.

23:33 It's just so utterly insane and incoherent.

23:36 We got to take these people apart.

23:39 You know, Steve, one of the things

23:41 that that is truly amazing is is you're hearing

23:43 people like the AOCs and the Bernies

23:45 of the world talking about the system being rigged.

23:46 Meanwhile, one of the people running for governor in your race is Tom Steyer,

23:50 who every so often just blows like 150 million dollars

23:54 on a political race in which he gets his ass

23:56 kicked and trying to rig the elections in his own

23:58 favor by spending gobs of of his own money,

24:01 much of which was earned off of carbon-based fossil fuels.

24:04 It's It's pretty astonishing stuff and simultaneously saying

24:07 that the wealth tax isn't high enough in order

24:10 to drive the other people who are actually

24:11 innovating and earning in California out of the state.

24:14 Now, what do you make of of your competitors in this race?

24:17 How do you view the race at this point?

24:20 So one one further point on Tom Steyer,

24:22 we will have to publish our taxes um as candidates for governor.

24:26 Of all the candidates in the race, billionaire Tom Steyer,

24:29 who rails against billionaires using tax loopholes to avoid paying taxes,

24:33 actually pays the lowest effective tax rate because he's stashing

24:37 his money away in tax loopholes and places like the Cayman Islands.

24:41 So I mean, the whole thing is so ridiculous.

24:44 In terms of the race, I think where we are now is encouraging

24:48 for those of us who want change in California, which by the way is a majority.

24:52 Just to be clear, the the the data on whether people think the state is

24:56 going in the right direction or wrong

24:57 direction has shifted very negatively against the Democrats.

25:00 During the last governor's race 4 years ago,

25:02 the kind of right track wrong track number wrong

25:05 track in California was a mid to high 40s.

25:08 Today, it's mid to high 50s.

25:10 There's a majority who want change.

25:12 That's why I I know it's going to be difficult to win this year,

25:15 but I think we've got an opportunity cuz

25:17 people are sick of what's been going on.

25:19 In terms of the race, we got this ridiculous top two primary system.

25:22 The top two vote getters in the primary go forward regardless of party.

25:26 Right now, I'm leading or tied for the lead in in all of the polls.

25:29 There's another one out today that has me on 20% Xavier Becerra,

25:33 Biden's former health secretary on 20, everyone else on 14 or below.

25:37 So, that's encouraging, but there's a risk that actually because of this system,

25:43 if Tom Steyer dumps another $160 million into the race,

25:48 which he could perfectly well do, he might go up a little bit.

25:51 The Democrat machine in California has kind of glommed onto Xavier Becerra,

25:56 who was down and out a few weeks ago before the Swalwell sleaze implosion,

26:01 but Becerra is like a dream come true

26:03 for the California political machine cuz he's exactly what they want.

26:07 Just like Kamala Harris, just like Newsom, just like Bass,

26:11 actually just like Joe Biden, he is a complete puppet.

26:14 Career politician who will just do whatever they say, whatever the unions want.

26:18 He doesn't really believe in anything other than his own political career.

26:22 And so, they're excited for him.

26:24 No one else is, but the machine is.

26:26 And so, you've got the unions all getting behind Becerra.

26:28 And so, you could see him moving up up a little bit.

26:30 Effectively right now, you've got a top three in the race,

26:34 myself, Becerra, and Tom Steyer.

26:37 If we can unite a little bit more strongly behind my campaign,

26:41 then I'll be there probably against Becerra, but you never know.

26:45 We got a month to go.

26:45 The ballots are already out.

26:47 It's very important everyone in California

26:49 understands that we could be locked out,

26:52 and you could have two Democrats in the top

26:54 two if we don't actually get behind the leading Republican,

26:58 who very clearly now is me.

27:01 Now, now Steve, I'm somebody who gave up the ghost on California a while back.

27:05 I took my family, I moved out in 2020 figuring that the slide was irreversible.

27:09 Our business moved to Tennessee.

27:11 I have pretty much all my relatives moved.

27:13 We still have relatives who are still back in California.

27:14 Every time I visit LA,

27:16 it just feels like a living tragedy because obviously you're talking

27:19 about one of the most beautiful places on Earth in California,

27:21 tremendous natural resources,

27:22 and somehow governance has reduced it to a completely ungovernable mess.

27:26 So, the the question is obviously it feels as though

27:30 this election is sort of last chance saloon for for a California.

27:33 I keep hearing from my friends who have stayed in California,

27:36 maybe it'll turn around, maybe it'll shift.

27:38 If it doesn't shift in this election, the question to me is when would it?

27:42 Is it possible that it ever would, or are we basically in a death spiral now?

27:47 I think that's exactly right.

27:48 I really do.

27:48 I mean, I remember when I launched the campaign,

27:50 I said, "Look, it's now or never.

27:51 We really do have because actually there's so

27:55 many people I'm on the road the whole time.

27:57 It's been a year now.

27:58 Businesses all over the state,

27:59 not just the high profile ones that make the headlines.

28:02 So many businesses, and people say to me, "If you don't win, I'm out.

28:06 I'm hanging on.

28:07 I'm waiting to see if it's going to happen this time,

28:09 and then I'm out." Business is more mobile than ever.

28:12 Um people can see that you can make a great business um start a business,

28:17 grow a business exactly as you have in other parts of the country.

28:20 The idea that you have to be in California isn't isn't real for a lot of people.

28:24 Of course, there are some businesses, you know,

28:26 real estate and so on that are going to stay,

28:28 and and and they're committed to trying to save the state,

28:31 but there's a real risk that we just fall off the cliff.

28:34 And so, this is a make or break moment.

28:37 I think we can do it because of the fact

28:39 that people are so sick of what's been going on.

28:41 We got a couple of other factors in our favor.

28:44 Um in a mid-term election, as you know,

28:45 it's all about turnout, getting your voters out.

28:48 And there's a couple of ballot initiatives

28:50 that have been confirmed for the ballot in November

28:52 in California that will really help get Republicans

28:55 voters out cuz they're disproportionately popular among Republicans.

28:58 The first of them is is a ballot initiative called Save Prop 13,

29:02 which is about limiting local tax increases, property tax increases, and so on.

29:06 And then and then the one that's had more attention, voter ID.

29:09 Voter ID is going to be on the ballot in November.

29:11 That's really popular with Republicans.

29:13 So, I think that we've got everything going for us.

29:15 The the Democrat candidates are terrible in different ways,

29:20 whether it's Becerra,

29:21 who's just a complete I mean, even look how look how bad Becerra is.

29:25 Even his own former colleagues in the Biden administration are now

29:29 leaking every day about what a useless cabinet secretary he was.

29:32 I mean, if you're so bad that Joe Biden thinks you're incompetent,

29:37 then, you know, you got problems.

29:38 And then, of course, Steyer, um who's even worse.

29:41 How do I say uh if you think it can't get any worse in California,

29:44 I've got two words for you, Tom Steyer.

29:46 Um these candidates are beatable.

29:48 And so, I think this absolutely could be a a year.

29:51 Look at Spencer Pratt generating huge buzz and energy in LA

29:54 tapping into the rage of what happened there with Karen Bass.

29:57 Look, it's not going to be easy.

29:58 I've never said that.

29:59 It's going to be difficult, but we've got a lot of support growing.

30:02 We've got the business community engaged in politics in California

30:06 for the first time in at least 20 years,

30:08 partially prompted by this insane wealth tax proposal.

30:11 So, look, we can do it.

30:13 I really believe we can do it, but it's going to be hard.

30:15 We've got to fight for it.

30:17 That's Steve Hilton.

30:18 Steve, where should people go to support your campaign?

30:21 Thank you, Ben.

30:21 SteveHiltonForGovernor.com, f o r.

30:24 SteveHiltonForGovernor.com.

30:26 Um but most importantly, vote.

30:27 The ballots are out.

30:28 We've got a month of early voting.

30:30 It's already started.

30:31 It's not going to happen unless people actually go out and vote for it.

30:35 Well, that's Steve Hilton.

30:35 Steve, really appreciate the time and good luck.

30:38 In a second, we'll get to the Marxist belief that somehow

30:42 souls are transformed as soon as you get rid of capitalism.

30:45 Plus, what should President Trump do on Iran?

30:48 And we'll get to Mark Hamill who has joined the dark side.

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31:54 So, you know, to go back to what's happening,

31:57 I think it's important to note that the places like California

32:00 that have decided to follow the AOC Bernie Sanders wealth is terrible,

32:04 innovation is awful, it's all theft path, they are losing they're losing people.

32:10 They're losing income.

32:11 This is a chart of AGI gained or lost in states

32:15 that Trump won in 2024 versus states that he lost.

32:19 That's the be the income that that is being gained or lost.

32:24 And what you can see is massive gains

32:28 in the red states and massive losses in the blue states.

32:32 Amounting to some 2 trillion dollars gained in the Trump

32:36 states and almost $2 trillion lost in the blue states.

32:40 That is because business owners, people who innovate,

32:42 are fleeing places that hate them.

32:45 By the way, the loss leaders,

32:47 places like California, which lost $503 billion in AGI,

32:51 and New York, which lost $660 billion in AGI, and they keep running this down.

32:55 So, the question is, why?

32:57 The question is, why?

32:58 Why do they keep doing this?

32:59 And it can only be envy.

33:02 It can only be envy.

33:04 It can't be efficacy.

33:06 Right?

33:06 When people on the right,

33:08 when we have whenever you argue in favor of free markets,

33:09 we we typically argue in a utilitarian fashion about free markets,

33:13 that free markets work better than socialism

33:15 and regulation and subsidization and government control.

33:18 And that's true.

33:19 But in the end, the argument that is being made by AOC,

33:22 Bernie, Tom Steyer, Katie Porter, like all these people,

33:26 the arguments that are being made are not, in fact, utilitarian arguments.

33:30 They are not saying socialism will work better.

33:32 Socialism is not going to provide you a 40-hour workweek

33:35 with a vacation and rent and food in a better way than capitalism.

33:39 It will not work that way.

33:40 What they are promising is something different.

33:42 They're making a moral indictment of people who are rich.

33:45 They are saying that when you become rich,

33:46 you become evil and corrupt and terrible.

33:48 Right?

33:48 That is why she doesn't say, "If you earn $100,000, AOC,

33:53 she doesn't say, "If you earn $100,000, then you have been corrupt." She says,

33:57 "If you earn a billion dollars, you've been corrupt." There comes some point,

34:00 a tipping point, at which your greed takes over.

34:04 And if only we change the systems under which you live,

34:06 then the heart of man itself would change.

34:08 The promise of Marxism is not a better future.

34:12 The promise of Marxism is a better human being.

34:14 That was always the promise of Marxism, and it is a lie.

34:17 It is untrue.

34:18 Human beings are human beings wherever you go.

34:20 Human nature is human nature wherever you go.

34:23 And the reality is that the moral status that Marxism tries to claim,

34:30 And idea that that you are more altruistic,

34:32 that you are a better person if you believe in redistributionism, is a lie.

34:36 Free markets are just.

34:38 Free markets are good.

34:40 Free markets are based on a simple principle.

34:43 You, as an individual, have creative power in the universe.

34:47 You are made in the image of God.

34:48 You have control over your autonomy.

34:50 You have the ability to control your labor and alienate it.

34:53 Your innovation is your own, and you ought to own it.

34:57 The principle of justice is that people get what they have coming to them.

35:03 Right?

35:03 That is a That is the principle of justice.

35:06 Justice is not the idea that you have an idea of what the world should be,

35:10 and if you don't get that thing, then justice has not been achieved.

35:13 Thomas Sowell, the economist, he properly observed in his fabulous book,

35:17 The Quest for Cosmic Justice, "Justice is a process and not an outcome.

35:21 We are not God that we can simply say,

35:22 'Let there be equality or let there be justice.'

35:25 We must begin with the universe that we were

35:26 born into, and weigh the costs of making any

35:28 specific change in it to achieve a specific end." Okay,

35:33 private property is a good.

35:35 It is not a bad.

35:36 It is a good.

35:37 It is good that there are billionaires because a society that has

35:41 in a free market billionaires means there

35:42 are a lot of people who are millionaires.

35:43 It means there are a lot of people who are making $100,000.

35:46 And it means that everybody is wealthier than they were the day before.

35:51 Why?

35:51 Because of innovation.

35:53 And I can't say this enough.

35:55 There are time machines on planet Earth.

35:56 They're called airplanes.

35:57 Take an airplane to a third world

35:59 country that does not protect private property,

36:01 that does not believe in equal rights before the law,

36:04 and see how it works out for you.

36:06 It's terrible.

36:07 It's truly awful.

36:08 Meanwhile, you're living here in the United States,

36:11 the greatest country in the history of mankind.

36:14 And you have a magical device you carry around in your pocket every day,

36:17 filled with more technology than the tech that was

36:20 used to put a man on the moon.

36:23 And you're carrying that around every day,

36:24 and you can hit a button on that phone,

36:26 and a product will be magically delivered to you without

36:29 any effort on your part other than hitting the button.

36:32 And that product will have been sourced from 80 different countries.

36:35 And you'll never know about it.

36:36 That's the power of free markets.

36:38 And that's rooted again in your specific priorities.

36:41 You are not a victim in the system.

36:43 You get to decide what you want to buy.

36:44 You get to decide what you want to sell.

36:46 You get to decide how much you're going to spend for a thing

36:48 or whether you don't want to spend that much money for a thing.

36:52 The theory of marginal value.

36:55 Right?

36:55 The idea that you as an individual get to decide what

36:58 a thing is worth to you is the basis for free market economics.

37:03 Meaning that it is the most individualistic system

37:06 that has ever been conceived of by mankind.

37:09 We didn't even properly understand it until the works of Ludwig

37:13 von Mises and Böhm-Bawerk in the late 19th, early 20th century.

37:18 And the basic idea is this.

37:20 A glass of water, what is it worth to you?

37:23 Now, in the United States on a typical day, probably not all that much.

37:26 Right?

37:27 You can go to a tap, you can open up the tap, you can put some water in it.

37:29 If you're in the Sahara, it would be worth literally all of your wealth.

37:33 Because otherwise you would die.

37:35 Does that mean that the water changed value or does

37:37 it mean that your value on the water changed?

37:41 Your value on the water changed.

37:42 And that's what price systems do.

37:43 We aggregate the value in the time and then we

37:47 figure out what the average person is willing to pay basically.

37:51 That is good.

37:52 It is better.

37:52 You innovate.

37:53 You compete.

37:54 Things get better.

37:57 So, it is not just a utilitarian case, it is a moral case.

38:00 And again, the left hates that moral case.

38:03 They want something completely different.

38:05 And meanwhile, the left is getting more and more radical.

38:08 The left is getting more and more violent in its perception of the world.

38:12 Mark Hamill put out a post.

38:15 Mark Hamill, of course, is most famous for playing Luke Skywalker.

38:20 He also was the voice of the Joker in the series.

38:22 This is much closer to the the Joker than it is to Luke Skywalker.

38:27 He put out a photo of President Trump,

38:30 in sort of an AI painting of President Trump, dead.

38:34 Like lying in the ground with flowers growing on him,

38:38 and a gravestone atop him that says Donald J.

38:40 Trump 1946 to 2024.

38:43 And he put out a statement on Blue Sky,

38:45 which is Twitter for leftist crazy people.

38:48 Quote, "If only he should live long enough

38:50 to witness his inevitable devastating loss in the midterms,

38:52 be held accountable for his unprecedented corruption,

38:54 impeached, convicted, and humiliated for his countless crimes.

38:58 Long enough to realize he'll be disgraced

39:00 in the history books forevermore." Okay, he then deleted it.

39:05 Putting up pictures of your political opponents dead typically a bad thing.

39:10 Now, it was just a couple of days ago that Barack

39:13 Obama was with Mark Hamill at the Obama Presidential Center.

39:21 Happy Star [music] Wars Day from the Obama Presidential Center.

39:25 I have a very good feeling about this.

39:29 Mark, I'm glad you are here.

39:31 I want to tell you about someone.

39:34 Okay.

39:34 A young person born into ordinary circumstances,

39:36 [music] but restless, unsatisfied.

39:41 Mhm.

39:40 A kid with big dreams.

39:42 A bit of a rebel.

39:44 I like where this [music] is going.

39:45 They join a scrappy group of underdogs and set out to [music] change things.

39:50 By blowing up a giant space laser?

39:54 Mark, this is not about you.

39:57 Oh.

39:56 As wonderful as you are, this is about them.

40:00 This isn't a monument to my legacy.

40:02 It's a gateway to you.

40:05 him.

40:05 The Obama Presidential Center is much more than a museum.

40:08 It is an entire campus built to empower [music] you.

40:11 A place to come together, get inspired, and become a force [music] for change.

40:19 Yeah, exactly.

40:20 It's the Zoolander school for kids who can't read good.

40:22 the dad jokes are.

40:26 [laughter] That's perfect.

40:28 My my my my favorite my favorite thing about Obama there is that he's like,

40:31 "Mark, it's not about you." It's about me.

40:35 That's that's literally what he's saying.

40:36 You know, a scrappy underdog who up But again,

40:41 the left mostly fine with this sort of thing these days.

40:45 Kathy Griffin, who was last seen holding up

40:47 a mock-up of the severed head of Donald Trump.

40:49 You remember that during term one?

40:51 Well, now she is out there making fun of Erica Kirk, which has become sport.

40:54 I have to say, the sport of making fun of Erica Kirk

40:56 is one of the sickest things I've seen in modern American politics.

40:59 It is disgusting.

41:01 It's disgusting.

41:01 You don't have to love Charlie Kirk.

41:03 You don't have to like Erica Kirk.

41:04 You don't have to do any of those things.

41:05 But making fun of the widow of a guy who

41:07 got shot in the neck live on camera is insane.

41:11 It's totally crazy.

41:12 And the fact that this has become sport for people

41:14 on the right and on the left is sick.

41:17 Just I mean, truly vile.

41:19 Here is Kathy Griffin doing a Candace Owens.

41:23 There's always new things happening.

41:25 I mean, who knows how many assassination attempts there could

41:28 be just in the next day or how many times

41:32 Erica Kirk is going to switch from her sparkle pants

41:35 to that weird video that she made that's just um bizarre.

41:40 It's kind of a close-up like a zoom-in shot of her face.

41:44 Nothing will ever be enough for the evil in this world.

41:47 Our country has become unrecognizable.

41:50 Wasn't that Erica Kirk video weird?

41:52 Her being um not girly and and and looking

41:56 like I don't even know what, like a sniper.

41:58 She looks like she's going to an anti-ICE protest,

42:01 which is something she would not do.

42:03 Look, I'm done giving her a pass, all right?

42:06 Uh I knew Charlie Kirk.

42:07 I did a panel with him one time.

42:09 And his squished-in face, and yeah,

42:11 I said that because that dude was a straight-up Nazi.

42:16 Should he do a panel with a Nazi?

42:17 Why would he do a panel with a Nazi?

42:18 He probably shouldn't do that.

42:19 It's It's It's so insane.

42:20 It's Unfortunately, the Democratic Party has

42:22 moved in an incredibly radical direction.

42:25 The The The sort of normie Hollywood Democrat

42:28 has moved into an insane direction these days,

42:30 which is like it's really it's really quite bad for the country.

42:35 Now, there's still some normies.

42:37 There's still some normies.

42:38 They exist.

42:39 John Fetterman, again, I cite him as the normie because he is one.

42:43 Again, I disagree with him on a lot of his politics.

42:45 He voted 90% in favor of Joe Biden's policies, but he's not a nut job.

42:49 He put out a a piece at the Washington Post saying, "I haven't changed.

42:53 Here's what has.

42:53 Although I was elected as a Democrat, I'm proud to serve all Pennsylvanians.

42:57 It is becoming increasingly lonely to serve in that way,

42:59 but I firmly believe it's what's needed.

43:01 My party cannot simply be the opposite of whatever President Donald Trump says.

43:05 The president could come out for ice cream and lazy Sundays,

43:07 and my party would suddenly hate them.

43:09 Such pointless pile-ons and attacks are unproductive.

43:11 The American people want us to work together to find

43:13 solutions on issues that they and our country face."

43:16 He says it wasn't long ago when Democrats supported things

43:18 like a secure border or avoiding government shutdowns or Israel.

43:22 He says those once-common views have

43:24 become increasingly toxic in the Democratic Party,

43:26 a result of catering to the fringe and agitated parts of our base.

43:31 He's right.

43:32 He is correct.

43:33 Obviously, we need more Democrats like that and less of the nuttiness.

43:37 And meanwhile, the fight over redistricting continues.

43:41 Tennessee Republicans yesterday passed a new gerrymander following

43:44 the Supreme Court ruling on the Voting Rights Act.

43:48 So again, that ruling just said that you're not allowed

43:51 to draw districts specifically in order to benefit one particular racial group.

43:56 So now, Tennessee is a 9-0 Republican state.

44:01 They're basically redistricting Representative Steve Cohen out of his seat.

44:06 He's representing a majority black district.

44:10 They split up the majority black Shelby County.

44:14 It also divides Maury County,

44:16 which delivers a more favorable district to a guy named Andy Ogles in Tennessee.

44:20 You can see the map before and after.

44:23 Again, not totally unreasonable maps really either way.

44:27 Very likely this is upheld,

44:28 but the idea is on the part of Democrats that this is un-American.

44:33 So, again, according to Democrats, it's totally American to do this in Virginia,

44:38 a 55-45 state, totally un-American to do this in Tennessee, a 60-40 state.

44:44 Here is Representative Justin Jones lighting a Confederate

44:47 flag on fire in the state capital.

44:48 I wasn't aware that that like a lot of people are

44:51 are in love with the Confederate flag these days, but okay.

44:57 [cheering] [cheering] Uh, oh, the performativeness.

45:07 And then he decided to curse out a state

45:08 trooper cuz it's the state trooper's fault somehow.

45:14 This is Justin Pearson.

45:19 What?

45:22 What's wrong with you?

45:25 What's wrong with you?

45:29 Hey.

45:28 You stupid mother

45:32 Shouting at state troopers, that that that is that is a way to do it.

45:35 That's that sounds that sounds amazing.

45:37 Uh, Justin Pearson, one of the most hilarious people in American politics.

45:41 Just want to show you a video of Justin Pearson in 2016 versus yesterday.

45:48 Justin J.

45:49 Pearson, and I'm running for president of PSG.

45:52 There are a few reasons that we're running this campaign this year.

45:54 One has to do with representation.

45:56 How can we represent all voices in a conversation?

46:00 I wanted to do this by partnering with organizations

46:02 from the Boone Democrats to the Boone Republicans.

46:05 I want to bring together different voices, dissenting voices,

46:08 voices that may be more liberal or more conservative in order

46:11 that we can reach a point of sort of the radical middle.

46:15 You've [clears throat] had three strikes laws, mass incarceration,

46:19 denied us of who we are, and we ARE STILL HERE.

46:23 AND TODAY, YOU WILL take the ONLY BLACK MAJORITY BLACK DISTRICT FROM US.

46:27 BUT I WANT you to know,

46:29 and I want my future sons and the future TO KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO,

46:34 no matter how MUCH YOU TRY AND BREAK US AND MAKE US BEND AND MAKE US QUIT,

46:39 WE WILL STILL BE HERE.

46:44 A LOT OF POLITICIANS ARE FRUSTRATED theater kids.

46:46 That is for sure.

46:46 Stacey Abrams, the governor of Georgia.

46:49 Remember that time that she claimed she was governor

46:50 of Georgia for years and years after losing a gubernatorial race,

46:53 and then she was on Star Trek for no reason.

46:55 Remember that?

46:55 Yeah, that was funny.

46:56 Well, now she says there are no longer any blue or red states.

46:59 They're only democracy or authoritarian states.

47:02 So, which does Virginia count as precisely?

47:06 What we have to understand is that there

47:08 are no longer blue states and red states.

47:11 There are authoritarian states and democracy states.

47:15 There are states that do not believe in the right of the people to have a say,

47:19 who want to aggregate power and foment corruption,

47:23 and there are states that want to guarantee

47:25 that in this country we have free and fair elections,

47:29 we have access to the remedies that democracy is supposed to deliver,

47:33 and that no matter what goes wrong in one part of the country,

47:37 that the quality of your citizenship does not

47:39 depend on your zip code and your geography.

47:43 No, the quality of your authoritarianness apparently depends on your zip code.

47:48 Because, again, the idea is if Democrats do it, it's fine.

47:50 If Republicans do it, it's not.

47:51 Here is my general view of redistricting.

47:53 I've said it over and over and over again.

47:54 Totally legal, it's fine.

47:56 Don't care all that much, honestly.

47:58 I really don't.

47:59 Like California redistricting, Texas redistricting.

48:02 All right.

48:03 I mean, okay.

48:05 I I I do not have a strong opinion

48:06 as to the idea that states should never redistrict.

48:11 And it seems to me what's good for the goose

48:12 is good for the gander and vice versa.

48:14 Now, speaking of that Virginia redistricting map,

48:17 the map was not ruled unconstitutional today.

48:20 The actual referendum was ruled unconstitutional.

48:22 So, what I mean by this is it's not the the actual

48:24 map that the Democrats drew in Virginia that the court has struck down.

48:28 What actually happened is that the Democrats put up a referendum on the ballot

48:32 in Virginia that said that the goal is to quote unquote restore fairness.

48:36 So, that was misleading the court found.

48:38 They found that that referendum did not in fact restore fairness.

48:40 It basically reduced 45% of the voting population

48:44 of the state of Virginia into one district.

48:48 So, like 9% of the congressional delegation.

48:52 Okay, so what what they found is then there are a few violations

48:55 here that the Democratic Party pursued

48:57 in order to ram through this redistricting.

49:00 And these were procedural hurdles.

49:01 One, the actual referendum itself was poorly worded and illegitimate.

49:07 Second, the Virginia Constitution dictates that a proposed amendment must be

49:12 approved by a majority of members elected to each of the two

49:15 houses in two separate legislative sessions and there has to be

49:18 an intervening general session of the House

49:20 of Delegates between those two approvals.

49:21 The goal there would be to again have any amendment approved

49:25 over a course of time instead of just immediately slam bang.

49:29 Okay, but this was an amendment to the Virginia

49:33 Constitution that apparently violated all of those rules.

49:36 They found that they did not actually adhere to the requirements of the Virginia

49:40 Constitution and so they struck down what

49:42 happened in Virginia in the redistricting case.

49:44 Now, it doesn't mean that Democrats can't try to find another

49:46 way around it or that the map itself they ruled on.

49:50 They didn't rule on the map itself.

49:51 They said the process by which the map was rammed into law,

49:55 that process was flawed.

49:58 And meanwhile, there is some action in the Middle East.

50:03 So, the Iranians, according to President Trump,

50:06 are making concessions and then the day

50:07 after they are walking back those concessions.

50:09 I'm not sure what messages are being conveyed to the president by Pakistan,

50:12 which is not a good actor here.

50:14 Pakistan is just a cutout for China, by the way.

50:16 I don't know what sort of carrot he thinks he's being dangled by the Iranians.

50:21 I do not believe that they are

50:22 in a mood to make any sort of serious concessions.

50:25 I think they are BSing him in an attempt to basically drain away support.

50:29 I think that's what's actually Let's be clear,

50:31 by the way, what's actually happening right now.

50:32 A lot of people say, "Oh my gosh, we are, you know,

50:34 months into this war." If by war you mean we have not

50:38 run a full-scale air raid on Iran in weeks at this point,

50:43 and we just have ships that are parked off the coast of Iran,

50:47 and this somehow counts to you as a gigantic war,

50:52 the definition of war has changed to somewhat, it seems to me.

50:56 Nonetheless, here is the president yesterday

50:58 being asked about Iran's previous concessions.

51:01 Well, it's more than a one-page offer.

51:03 It's an offer that's basically said they will not have nuclear weapons.

51:07 They're going to hand us the nuclear dust and many other things that we want.

51:12 How much have you heard about that so far as the president

51:14 When they agree, it doesn't mean much cuz

51:16 the next day they forget they forgot they agreed.

51:20 Now again, I I think that one of the things that is

51:22 probably happening here is people are saying this to the president.

51:24 I don't know whether it's the Chinese or the Pakistanis

51:26 or the vice president who's leading negotiations or any of the rest.

51:29 I don't know.

51:30 But, my guess is that Abbas Araqchi, the foreign minister,

51:33 is spewing a bunch of BS, and then the US is taking that seriously,

51:37 and then the IRGC is like, "Yeah,

51:38 we're not doing any of that." That is likely what is happening right now.

51:41 Well, yesterday, according to the president,

51:43 three world-class American and just transited very successfully

51:47 out of the Strait of Hormuz under fire.

51:49 There was no There was damage done to the three destroyers,

51:51 but great damage done to the Iranian attackers.

51:53 They were completely destroyed along with numerous small boats,

51:56 which are being used to take the place of their fully decapitated navy.

51:59 These boats went to the bottom of the sea quickly and efficiently.

52:01 Missiles were shot at our destroyers and were easily knocked down.

52:03 Likewise, drones came and were incinerated while in the air.

52:06 They dropped ever so beautifully down to the ocean,

52:08 very much like a butterfly dropping to its grave.

52:11 Some beautiful poetry there from the president.

52:13 He says a normal country would have allowed these destroyers to pass,

52:16 but Iran is not a normal country.

52:17 They are led by lunatics.

52:18 And if they had a chance to use a nuclear weapon,

52:20 they would do it without question.

52:21 But they'll never have that opportunity,

52:22 and just like we knocked them out again today,

52:24 we'll knock them out a lot harder and a lot more

52:25 violently in the future if they don't get their deal signed fast.

52:28 Our three destroyers with their wonderful

52:30 crews will now rejoin our naval blockade, which is truly a wall of steel.

52:33 President Trump.

52:35 So, what is he talking about?

52:36 Well, apparently yesterday, according to the Wall Street Journal,

52:39 there was an explosion on the Bahman Pier on Iran's Qeshm Island in the Strait

52:42 of Hormuz during exchanges of fire between Iranian

52:45 forces and what state media described as enemy forces,

52:47 that would be the United States.

52:49 The pier had been targeted several times during the war with Israel.

52:52 Several explosions were also heard in Bandar Abbas,

52:54 according to the semi-official Tasnim News Agency,

52:57 which is affiliated with the IRGC.

52:59 Iranian state media said that Iran's military fired ballistic missiles,

53:02 cruise missiles, and suicide drones at warships.

53:04 Qeshm Island is located in the Strait of Hormuz and it

53:07 is used as a launching point for drones and missiles against shipping.

53:12 All this came after earlier yesterday,

53:14 Saudi Arabia and Kuwait lifted restrictions on the US military's

53:17 use of their bases and airspace imposed after Project Freedom,

53:21 which was a way to open the Strait of Hormuz.

53:24 Why did that happen?

53:25 Well, apparently, Saudi and Kuwait blocked the US

53:29 military's use of bases after senior American officials

53:32 played down Iranian attacks on the Persian Gulf

53:34 in reaction to the operation in the Strait.

53:36 The Saudis and other Gulf states were concerned the US

53:38 would not protect them amid the escalation in fighting, according to officials.

53:41 And again, here is a map that you can

53:43 see of the strikes that it's the Strait of Hormuz.

53:45 For those who can't see the map,

53:47 this is one reason you should subscribe and watch it so you can actually watch,

53:50 you know, you look at the maps that we're looking at.

53:52 But, this is kind of the narrowest portion of the Strait of Hormuz.

53:55 Bandar Abbas is located on the Iranian coast,

53:58 and sort of the north side of the Strait of Hormuz.

54:00 And then there's Qeshm Island, which is a rather longish island that is located

54:04 1/3 of the way down the Strait of Hormuz.

54:07 And so, that's the area that was bombed yesterday.

54:11 Well, the US Ambassador to the UN, Mike Waltz,

54:13 suggests that Iran is trying to force people to pay tolls,

54:17 and that's unacceptable.

54:20 Just this week, Iran's own state media announced that the regime

54:24 has launched what it calls the Persian Gulf Straits Authority,

54:30 where it seeks to demand that all

54:32 ship cap- captains from international shipping,

54:36 commercial shipping, civilian shipping,

54:38 basically have to check in and pay a bribe,

54:42 pay a toll in order to use these international waterways.

54:46 So, that doesn't just affect this region.

54:50 It affects the entire world.

54:53 Now again, one of the things that just continues

54:55 here is the fact that we are blockading their oil.

54:58 According to CENTCOM, there are currently more than 70 tankers US

55:02 forces are preventing from entering or leaving Iranian ports.

55:05 Those commercial ships have the capacity to transport over

55:08 166 million barrels of Iranian oil worth $13 billion plus.

55:14 The president yesterday said they trifled with us, there's still a ceasefire.

55:16 And I know, this is baffling a lot of brains.

55:18 Why is there still a How is it a ceasefire?

55:19 We're firing at them, they're firing at us.

55:21 Why is there still a ceasefire?

55:22 And the answer is, every day that goes by, Iran gets weaker.

55:27 That is just the reality.

55:28 Apparently, there was an oil spill off the coast of Kharg Island.

55:33 What does that happen Why is that Because they've no place to put the oil.

55:35 They've no storage facility.

55:36 They're literally just dumping oil into the water

55:39 at this point because they've run out of storage facility apparently.

55:42 Here's the president yesterday.

55:45 Is the ceasefire with Iran still on?

55:48 Yeah, it is.

55:48 It's uh They trifled with us today.

55:51 We blew them away.

55:53 They trifled.

55:54 They call that a trifle.

55:55 I'll let you know when there's no cease You won't have to know.

55:58 If there's no ceasefire, you're not going to have to know.

56:00 You just going to have to look at one big glow coming out of Iran.

56:06 Okay.

56:06 Now again, everyone is pretending that something horrible

56:09 is happening and the economy continues to chug.

56:12 Everyone is pretending as though you know,

56:13 the economy is on its last legs here in the United States.

56:15 No, the the Iranian economy is on its last legs.

56:18 But don't worry, you have Kamala Harris here

56:20 to do propaganda work on behalf of the Iranian regime.

56:26 This war in Iran, which the American people do not want,

56:30 which was not authorized by Congress but even if it was,

56:33 it should not have been initiated.

56:35 He talked about obliterating and then he said,

56:37 "Oh, he did he did it's all JUST SICK.

56:46 THAT SHE'S AWFUL.

56:49 THAT SHE'S SO AWFUL.

56:49 She has to like crowd test whether to say or not.

56:52 It's insane.

56:54 Okay, so the question everybody keeps asking is how does this come to its end?

56:58 Okay, so just to reiterate, here are the goals.

57:00 Prevent Iran from ever having a nuclear weapon.

57:03 Destroy their ballistic missile umbrella because

57:05 the ballistic missile umbrella allows them to develop a nuclear weapon and end

57:08 their support for international terrorism, right?

57:10 End their spreading of their of their tentacles around the Middle East.

57:15 There are only two ways to achieve these goals in the long term.

57:19 Right?

57:19 In the long term.

57:19 One, Iran agrees to it.

57:22 Two, regime change.

57:23 Now, the president has been focused a lot on one,

57:25 the idea that Iran is going to agree to it.

57:27 It'll be like Venezuela.

57:28 Basically, the Venezuelan regime is evil but rational.

57:34 And then the current regime realizes that it is better to continue to exist

57:38 and control the country and give way to the United States than to not exist.

57:42 And so we're trying to model what we do with Iran and what we do with Venezuela.

57:45 The difference is socialist {slash} communist regimes are

57:48 evil but exist in the realm of rationality.

57:51 Obviously, that is not true of the IRGC.

57:53 The IRGC is much more like Hitler at the end of World War II in the bunker

57:57 or like the Japanese generals who tried to prevent

58:00 the surrender of Japan after the nuclear bombs were dropped.

58:05 Okay, so that means that the regime needs to change.

58:08 But, here's the thing.

58:09 The regime does not have to fall like right away.

58:10 We don't have to launch tens of thousands

58:12 of troops into Iran to achieve immediate regime change.

58:15 If you can deprive Iran of its nuclear

58:18 development long enough for the regime to fall.

58:20 If you can keep their ballistic missile arsenal

58:22 degraded long enough for the regime to fall.

58:24 If you can degrade their economy long enough for the regime to fall, you win.

58:27 I've been saying this all along.

58:29 It may not take just this in order for Iran to fall.

58:33 Maybe 6 months later it falls.

58:34 Maybe a year later it falls.

58:35 That would be a win.

58:36 That's why I've said many times you cannot adjudicate whether this action

58:40 was a victory or a failure for probably months to years afterward.

58:46 And by the way, that's that's usually true of wars.

58:48 Since the end of World War II with an actual surrender,

58:51 it's taken a while to determine whether a thing is a victory or a loss.

58:54 For example, when we had an armistice in Korea, was that a victory or a loss?

58:58 Well, turns out in retrospect,

58:59 pretty large victory because South Korea exists how can Iran survive?

59:06 Right, which is the way that they are able to you know continue being a threat.

59:10 Only by pushing the United States off the ball.

59:12 And that means they're going to try to wait us out.

59:14 They think that if they can get us to just go home, pack up and go home,

59:17 then they might be able to rebuild their export economy

59:20 and rebuild their nuclear facilities and rebuild their missile facilities.

59:23 And we're right back where we were a few years ago in 5 or 10 years.

59:28 That's their whole game.

59:30 But, we could end American serious involvement in the next

59:33 3 weeks with prospective victory if we want to.

59:36 There are options.

59:37 Let me just spell out one, one creative option.

59:40 Okay, so again, they are relying on the idea they can rebuild their economy.

59:44 What if we just said, "No, you're never rebuilding your economy.

59:46 You're toast unless you actually reintegrate into the world economy,

59:50 you're done." And the way you do that is you destroy Kharg Island.

59:54 Kharg Island is where all their refineries are.

59:57 And you go after the rest of their energy fields as well.

59:59 That is the next bank of targets.

1:00:01 Literally, the next bank of targets.

1:00:02 Let's say we destroy all of that.

1:00:04 What does that mean?

1:00:04 Well, that essentially dooms the Iranian regime

1:00:07 to a forever future of poverty because they're not going

1:00:09 to be reintegrated into the world economy and now

1:00:12 they have no oil exports even to China or Japan.

1:00:15 It means no money for their IRGC thugs.

1:00:17 It means no possible recovery.

1:00:19 It means a death spiral.

1:00:21 So, why don't we do that?

1:00:23 Well, the reason that we don't do it

1:00:24 is because Iran has essentially two points of leverage.

1:00:27 One, of course, is the Strait of Hormuz as we've been discussing.

1:00:29 And the second would be the threat

1:00:31 to destroy oil facilities in places like Saudi, Kuwait, UAE, and Bahrain.

1:00:35 Both of these things are solvable.

1:00:37 So, take the second first.

1:00:40 UAE is willing to undergo the threat of Iranian

1:00:42 drones and missiles in order to permanently defang the regime.

1:00:45 They've made this clear.

1:00:46 Actually, so has Saudi.

1:00:48 And the US can, in fact, clear the Strait of Hormuz.

1:00:50 We started doing this with Project Freedom earlier this week.

1:00:53 That's why the Iranians freaked out and started

1:00:55 trying to fire at the Saudis and at UAE.

1:00:58 So, why didn't we continue with Project Freedom?

1:01:00 Well, again, the reason is, according to contemporaneous reports,

1:01:04 that the Saudis were fine with Project

1:01:06 Freedom until the Iranians threatened retaliation.

1:01:08 And it wasn't the retaliation that scared the Saudis.

1:01:11 It was that the United States apparently said that if that happened,

1:01:14 we would still continue to pretend

1:01:15 that the ceasefire continued with the negotiations.

1:01:17 So, first thing we need to do stop with that nonsense.

1:01:20 Stop with it.

1:01:21 And the negotiations are not ongoing, certainly not publicly.

1:01:25 If they wish to give up the ghost, they can do it.

1:01:27 But this idea that we have to constantly say we're

1:01:29 in a ceasefire in order to continue negotiations is nonsense.

1:01:32 They can negotiate under fire.

1:01:33 It's fine.

1:01:35 The UAE meanwhile was still willing to to undergo all of those conditions.

1:01:39 Okay, so you have to like the UAE did not

1:01:42 deprive the United States of the use of its airspace.

1:01:45 Even with the threat of Iranian retaliation

1:01:47 and the reality that the United States was saying,

1:01:50 "If you get hit, you can't retaliate." So

1:01:53 why was the UAE acting differently than Saudi?

1:01:55 Well, the answer is that the UAE

1:01:57 and Saudi are differently situated geopolitically.

1:02:00 Why?

1:02:01 Well, because UAE has, we found out this week,

1:02:03 Israel's Iron Dome and Iron Beam to shoot down drones and missiles.

1:02:07 Why does UAE have it and Saudi doesn't?

1:02:09 Well, that's because UAE signed the Abraham Accords.

1:02:14 By the way, that's also why Iran has targeted the UAE disproportionately.

1:02:18 See, here's the thing.

1:02:18 The UAE, the leadership there, quite smart.

1:02:21 They discovered the magic of alliance with Israel.

1:02:24 Because the UAE has a lot of oil.

1:02:26 But the world is moving away from oil in the Middle East.

1:02:30 The United States, a massive developer of oil and natural gas at this point.

1:02:34 So, UAE is starting to do what all smart investors do.

1:02:38 They're diversifying.

1:02:39 They're taking their money and they're putting it in tech.

1:02:41 They're allying with a country with massive military capacity.

1:02:45 They're allying with the best offensive force in the region.

1:02:48 UAE knows, again, that the oil economy may be degrading over time.

1:02:52 They are looking to invest those assets in other assets like, for example, tech.

1:02:55 And Israel gives them an amazing way to do that.

1:02:58 So, UAE is not all that fearful of what Iran is going to do of them.

1:03:01 They have money invested in other places.

1:03:03 They have deals with the United States, with Israel,

1:03:05 and they have Iron Beam and Iron Dome,

1:03:07 which allow them to shoot down more of the stuff.

1:03:09 The Saudis, meanwhile, have been shall we say shall we say dilly-dallying?

1:03:15 They've held out on the Abraham Accords.

1:03:17 Instead of using their oil money to invest in say tech,

1:03:21 they've mainly used it to invest in entertainment.

1:03:23 In building useless cities in the desert that will never be visited.

1:03:26 In the LIV tour.

1:03:28 That is a mistake.

1:03:29 And the Saudis have been pursuing that mistake

1:03:31 because they are afraid of open alliance with Israel.

1:03:33 They're afraid of joining the Abraham Accords.

1:03:35 They think that somehow that will undercut

1:03:37 their claim to leadership in the Islamic world.

1:03:39 But they are wrong.

1:03:40 They're not just wrong economically.

1:03:42 They're also wrong militarily.

1:03:43 It means they don't have things like Iron Dome and Iron Beam.

1:03:45 So, their fields and their refineries are less protected in that way than UAE's.

1:03:50 So, here is one option that the United States might

1:03:53 want to pursue because the president has a history of this.

1:03:56 Tell the Saudis to sign the Abraham Accords and in return Iron Dome

1:04:00 and Iron Beam could be quickly set

1:04:02 up in Saudi to protect against Iranian retaliation.

1:04:06 That means the threat to Saudi is greatly reduced.

1:04:08 And now, the only question becomes opening the strait,

1:04:10 which the United States can open with Project Freedom.

1:04:13 Then, we bomb Kharg Island and the energy

1:04:15 facilities and there is no off-ramp for Iran.

1:04:17 Their leverage over the strait is gone.

1:04:19 Their leverage over the oil fields is gone.

1:04:21 We leave overwatch of the nuclear and ballistic to our Gulf allies and Israel.

1:04:25 They just keep mowing the lawn with regards to the nuclear facilities

1:04:27 and the ballistic missiles every few months until the Iranian regime collapses.

1:04:31 And we win because at that point there's no off-ramp for the Iranians.

1:04:35 There is no way for them to survive in the long term.

1:04:39 And even in the meantime, their threat level drops to the bare minimum because

1:04:43 they don't have money to send to terrorist groups.

1:04:45 They don't have money to develop a ballistic missile facility.

1:04:48 And every time they do it gets blown up.

1:04:50 They don't have the scientific capacity to do to ramp up their nuclear program.

1:04:55 There are things in other words that can be done.

1:04:57 So, anybody who's suggesting right now the United States

1:04:59 has quote unquote lost or is quote unquote losing is,

1:05:02 I think, missing the boat at this point in time.

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