🔴 Fall Animation Hangout - Lightbox Expo Giveaways | Live Fridays
Sir Wade Neistadt
0:00 All right, I'm live.
0:01 Hello.
0:03 Uh, if you're watching this later, you've clicked on this video.
0:07 It's live stream.
0:09 Uh, I'm doing live streams every Friday in October until Lightbox just because.
0:14 And, uh, if you want to check the description down below,
0:16 we've got a link to the Lightbox request
0:19 form if you got anything you want to see.
0:20 I've got some plans already, which you'll hear about,
0:23 uh, but you can kind of, you know, throw out your suggestions, requests,
0:26 anything you would really like to see at the event.
0:28 And then there's also a link for upcoming classes, uh, animation classes.
0:33 I've got a lot of stuff planned.
0:34 I'm going to be announcing a lot of stuff at Lightbox.
0:35 So, if you want to get a heads up on any of that stuff, links are below.
0:41 Uh, yeah, but if you're going to Lightbox, then I'll see you there.
0:45 And we'll have a lot of stuff happening.
0:46 I've got some talks that I'll be giving and I'll
0:50 have a booth and then other stuff will be happening.
0:55 So, uh, you can check out the link for for that.
1:00 Anyways, that's just the quick little overview,
1:02 but hello to everybody who's here.
1:07 I realize that when I always think about when I go live,
1:12 the whole point is to like chat and just be present,
1:15 but then I always think about the fact that like
1:18 people are going to click on this video later.
1:20 probably more people will end up watching this later than
1:23 are here live at any given moment or even total.
1:27 So, I feel like it's worth sharing some kind of intro
1:32 information of I don't know stuff that I know offhand like,
1:36 oh yeah, this is going to be useful that you know, whatever.
1:41 But what's up?
1:42 How's everybody doing?
1:46 I have not nailed down a time of when I want to go live on Fridays.
1:50 This is just kind of a just kind of a thing I want to try.
1:54 I was going to go live at like 10:00 a.m.
1:56 Eastern a couple hours ago, but I just had work stuff that I didn't
2:02 get to finish and get away from until now.
2:05 And so I just figured let's do it.
2:09 trying to be less precious with things with particulars of when to go
2:15 live and when to post a video and that kind of thing.
2:20 Greetings from Selfie Guy.
2:22 I will never forget.
2:26 How you doing?
2:28 Hey Jen, how you almost missed this?
2:29 You were going to doing it earlier.
2:30 I was planning on it.
2:32 Not planning on doing it when you were at work necessarily,
2:35 but I was planning on going live earlier.
2:38 What's up, Lannis?
2:40 Yeah, I was uh I guess I haven't slept yet.
2:45 Yeah, I was up.
2:45 I've been up since yesterday.
2:46 I was which is probably you can probably tell a little bit, but nope.
2:53 I was working.
2:54 I was busy.
2:55 I had a very productive day yesterday, very, very productive evening.
3:00 And I wasn't really let ready to like let the momentum stop.
3:03 And so, I just kind of kept working.
3:05 And then it was 6 am.
3:07 And then I was like,
3:09 maybe I'll have a snack because I'm in the middle of something right now.
3:12 And then I was still in the middle of things and working.
3:14 And then it was like it was like 10:00 and I was like,
3:16 ah, I'm supposed to go live now.
3:18 I need to finish this.
3:20 And then it was 12.
3:22 Then I was kind of finishing things at like 12:40 and I was like, "Okay,
3:25 now I can go live." And then I I don't know what else I did.
3:29 I did a couple of other Oh,
3:31 I had to like change the thumbnail for the live stream.
3:34 little things like that.
3:34 Anyway, so I've just been working for like I don't know 30 hours or something.
3:42 Been working since yesterday.
3:43 I don't think it's actually been 30 hours to be fair,
3:47 but I've definitely been working for the last like I don't know,
3:52 probably like 15 hours for sure.
3:55 Little breaks here and there, but anyway, I'm a little tired.
4:04 How are you guys doing?
4:07 Um, I have some fun stuff to play with here
4:15 in my office that I'll probably make some videos about soon,
4:19 which will be exciting.
4:21 Actually, I guess I'll just start off with that.
4:25 I'll Why not?
4:26 Why not?
4:27 What else do I have to talk about?
4:28 Who knows?
4:29 I have no plan.
4:30 There's no plan for this.
4:31 I'm just We're just chilling.
4:33 We're hanging out.
4:34 Hey, everybody.
4:37 I remember those kinds of days, multiple days when I was at college.
4:39 Yeah, it was a lot easier before.
4:41 I used to stay up all night for like a couple days
4:44 at a time and it was like not that big of a deal.
4:46 I get really tired and then I go to sleep sleep for, you know,
4:48 a solid 10, 11 hours and then I was fine.
4:55 It's not the case anymore.
4:56 I don't recover.
4:57 I don't bounce back so quickly anymore.
5:02 But e, where's your Toothless action figure?
5:07 You know, that's a great question.
5:10 I think Toothless is in the closet.
5:13 Toothless is still in the closet.
5:15 I never actually unboxed it when I moved here because I
5:17 never actually properly decorated my office until like three weeks ago.
5:22 Two, three weeks ago.
5:24 It's now somewhat presentable, but it's not actually decorated still.
5:28 And so you can see like there's a big old gap right here.
5:31 He could go there.
5:34 I'm still deciding if I want to keep
5:35 that shelf there if I'm going to make some changes.
5:37 But yeah, I guess Toothless is currently in the closet.
5:40 I should unbox him and I should put him
5:41 like here because that's a good spot for him.
5:43 Maybe.
5:45 Yeah, that's where he's at.
5:49 He's napping.
5:52 Hello.
5:53 Hello.
5:54 Uh, so virtual production.
6:00 I don't know if that's interesting to anybody,
6:01 but I'm working on I'm not yet working on it.
6:05 I'm planning a video.
6:07 I'm like writing the video.
6:09 I'm writing a video about virtual production because I have been like working
6:14 on virtual production for I don't know almost two years now since I moved here.
6:21 Since I moved to this apartment in New York,
6:25 I have been it was one of the first things I set up
6:28 and I think I talked about it a little bit before in the last stream,
6:30 but like since I got here,
6:31 I have wanted to explore virtual production and I've wanted to dabble in it.
6:36 And so I've been slowly slowly building up
6:39 my on camera like at home virtual production setup
6:44 and I've tried to do it at like a budget level and then I've also tried to do it
6:48 at like a professional level where it's like okay
6:50 how do I do it with like streaming equipment
6:52 like you know not that that's cheap bunch of streaming
6:58 gear but it's a lot more affordable than like
7:01 professional film gear you know so I started
7:05 with that and then I started getting little pieces of more
7:10 professional gear so I could do it properly so
7:14 I could compare and uh anyway you can see
7:17 remnants of of pieces like this is my green
7:19 screen that's just kind of sitting here this green
7:22 screen um TV on the wall which I can
7:26 use as a virtual production background bunch of camera stuff,
7:36 you know, Blackmagic stuff, signal converters, BNC cables,
7:43 which I didn't even know what a BNC cable was.
7:50 Anyways, that monitor was expensive.
7:54 That was that was probably the largest purchase
7:57 I had to make in this whole thing.
8:00 I got it like a while back, but I use it to film my videos anyway.
8:03 Anyways, that's a whole thing, but I'm finally making the upgrades that I
8:08 need to actually get the virtual production stuff working,
8:13 which is very exciting.
8:14 I have a couple things over here.
8:15 I'll show you in a second.
8:17 First, let me catch up with everybody here.
8:19 Real dragon cave.
8:22 Oh, I was very confused for a second.
8:25 How's the vibe in New York?
8:26 I love it.
8:27 I like it a lot.
8:28 Vibe's good.
8:29 Vibe's very good.
8:31 It's now starting to become fall here.
8:34 It's getting like crispy.
8:35 It's like 60s air.
8:38 What is it today?
8:40 Today it's currently it's about it's almost 2 p.m.
8:44 where I'm at right now and it's 62 degrees Fahrenheit.
8:48 I don't know what that is Celsius.
8:50 I have absolutely no idea.
8:52 I'm trying to see if it tells me somewhere on here.
8:56 No, apparently not.
8:58 I have absolutely no idea what the conversion is.
9:02 Hello.
9:02 How do I How do I like You would think
9:05 that it would give you both that it would be like,
9:10 "Oh, this much Fahrenheit, this much Celsius.
9:13 It's really not interested in helping me out there." Okay.
9:16 Well, and that's why I don't know Celsius.
9:18 There's whatever.
9:24 Anyway, it's very nice.
9:25 I've been very much enjoying the brief times I go outside.
9:29 I am in my office most of the time.
9:31 I typically don't leave.
9:33 I just work.
9:34 As I said earlier, I've been sitting in this chair
9:37 for almost 15 hours straight because I I didn't I haven't slept.
9:44 I just I was working all day and then I worked
9:46 all night and then I was working this morning and then
9:48 I was supposed to go live earlier and then I
9:49 didn't because I was working and then I finished my project.
9:51 I was like, "Oh, I guess I can go live now." And here we are.
9:55 And I I've been up working since yesterday and I'm
10:00 still so behind on everything I need to be doing.
10:06 Anyway, hello from Turkey.
10:09 Wow.
10:10 Hey, that's cool.
10:13 Hello from Hello from here.
10:18 Oh, Rainy, I owe you a message.
10:20 How you doing?
10:22 Um, I feel like every time I go live,
10:26 there's always somebody who jumps in the chat that I'm like,
10:28 "Oh, I owe this person an email or a Discord
10:30 message or something." Like I said, I'm always behind.
10:34 There's so much to do at every moment.
10:39 Have you made it upstate yet for fall colors?
10:40 No, I haven't.
10:42 I want to.
10:43 I haven't gone upstate yet.
10:45 I don't think I've ever been upstate in New York.
10:48 No, I haven't yet.
10:51 I need to I really want to this season.
10:53 So, I'm I'm like hoping to make that happen probably November hopefully.
11:00 I miss season so badly.
11:01 Enjoy the fall weather.
11:02 I will try it.
11:04 It this it's like there's so much time that elapses and I'm like,
11:08 "Oh, I haven't left my apartment in six days.
11:15 I'll just not leave anyway.
11:20 I enjoy it when I get a glimpse of it.
11:23 So, I actually I physically moved my desk to face
11:27 this way so I could look out the window more.
11:29 I have a window right here and I was facing
11:32 the wall because it felt like it made sense for this room.
11:34 And so, I was facing the wall because I
11:36 didn't want to cover the window with my desk.
11:38 But then I realized that like for the last year and a half,
11:41 I'd be working and then I would turn and look at the window be like,
11:44 "Oh my god, it's dark." Or, "Oh my god,
11:46 it's light." Like last time I looked, it wasn't that time of day.
11:49 And I always was like shell shocked by like, oh, I have no concept of time.
11:53 And so I I specifically just reoriented my entire office so
11:57 I could move my desk so I could face this way
12:00 so that I could like glimpse the outdoors while I
12:03 work so that maybe I have some sense of the world.
12:07 Anyway, uh, do you still do parkour?
12:13 Not really.
12:14 I'd like to.
12:15 I mean, I still enjoy it.
12:16 I still can do it.
12:18 Not at the level I used to be able to do it,
12:19 but um it's something that I I wish I could
12:27 devote more time to getting back into it a little bit,
12:32 but it was I was very spoiled living in LA near Tempest,
12:36 the free running academy, because it was just like the perfect place for it.
12:39 And I think we have a couple parkour gyms in New York,
12:42 but I haven't been to them yet.
12:43 So, I've actually it's on my list like a I want to check those out,
12:46 but I I haven't done it yet.
12:51 Don't forget to stretch 15 hours feels painful.
12:53 Yeah, my tailbone kind of hurts.
12:55 I was I I'm at a standing desk.
12:57 I was planning on standing.
13:00 I was considering standing for the stream, but then here I am.
13:04 Here I sit.
13:05 Maybe we'll switch it up in a little bit.
13:09 I did recently start using a treadmill at my desk, though.
13:12 I feel like it's been great.
13:13 Actually, I'm really enjoying that.
13:16 What are you working on?
13:16 I am working on a couple things right now.
13:21 Feel like I'm juggling like four different projects and then my own stuff.
13:26 I And that's typically how I'm typically I'm
13:29 juggling like I don't know three to four
13:34 what I would call external projects and then
13:36 I've got my own stuff in various like categories.
13:42 Right now, external projectwise,
13:46 I'm animating some stuff for a cordor digital video, which is very cool,
13:51 which will end up being a video that I end up
13:53 making because or because I'm I'm helping them with a video,
13:57 which I can't say what it is because I
13:59 don't I don't think they don't announce their video,
14:00 so I'm not going to spoil it.
14:02 But, um, yeah.
14:04 Yeah.
14:05 So, I'm working on a corridor video and then
14:07 from that I'll definitely make a video on my channel of like,
14:09 oh, how I did what I did over here because that's it's a fun little,
14:13 you know, companion piece.
14:16 Hopefully, I'm hoping people will find my channel because of it.
14:19 Uh, and then I am working on I'm working on some Oh, what am I allowed to say?
14:31 I'm working on some training content, I suppose,
14:36 some tutorial type stuff for Epic Games.
14:39 Uh, that's something that I have to do this weekend.
14:43 Finish that up.
14:44 And then I What else am I doing?
14:51 Allow me to consult my list because I can't keep track of anything anymore.
14:56 Oh, yeah.
14:57 I'm teaching a virtual production training course.
15:00 I'm super I'm supervising a virtual production like program in Singapore
15:07 and I'm also training a bunch of artists for that program and spinning
15:12 up a virtual art department for that virtual production shoot that I'll
15:17 be a part of and that's all so that's all in Singapore.
15:20 I went there to start off and then I've been remote
15:22 ever since and I'm kind of doing that in the evenings.
15:25 Um, and so I'm doing that and then I'm doing
15:28 a bunch of stuff for Lightbox and I'm redoing and revamping
15:34 and adding a bunch of new course stuff which I'm
15:37 going to be announcing at Lightbox which is very exciting.
15:41 And then there's videos and like normal stuff.
15:45 And I guess the other thing is with all the virtual production,
15:47 I'm trying to actually get my at home
15:48 virtual production setup working and like like foolproof, which I'll show this.
15:57 I'll show this.
15:57 This is cool.
16:04 Upgrades.
16:07 I have recently acquired this Ultimat 12 4K.
16:17 This is a hardware keyer.
16:21 It's a green screen keying piece of hardware that you
16:25 know I show you the picture on the box.
16:29 Before and after, right?
16:32 This is you plug a bunch of camera sources in and it does
16:36 the green screen stuff and it does a really really really good job.
16:39 It suppose it's I think as far as I'm
16:41 aware and I'm pretty sure this is a true statement, but as far as I'm aware,
16:45 it is the best green screen keying hardware option available.
16:52 I mean, technically there's like a fancier version of this.
16:54 It's like 8K, but who needs that?
16:57 So, anyway, I have this because I do green screen stuff
17:00 for production because I don't have an LED wall except for the TV.
17:04 Anyway, that's this.
17:05 And there's all these cables.
17:06 You can plug a bunch of stuff into different places.
17:07 And so, there's that.
17:12 And then I have this to go with it,
17:15 which is where you actually do the recording because once you do all that stuff,
17:18 you it does that thing doesn't do the recording.
17:20 That thing just does the keying and then it
17:22 sends the video signal of like here's your finished video.
17:25 What are you going to do with it?
17:26 You have to record it somewhere.
17:28 So that's this.
17:30 So I have those, but this has to like record to a hard drive.
17:33 And I didn't get a hard drive.
17:35 So that comes next week.
17:39 that.
17:41 And so I've had to draw this like diagram.
17:46 Let's see.
17:46 Is there anything here I can't show you?
17:48 No, it's fine.
17:50 I had to like draw this whole signal flowchart trying to figure
17:53 out like which cables and adapters I need to plug what into where.
17:58 I don't know if this makes any sense to anybody, but there's it is there's that.
18:05 I have to do this a lot actually for my office.
18:06 cuz I have so much stuff plugged into different places that I
18:10 just have to like constantly draw diagrams to figure out what I'm doing.
18:15 I don't know if you actually wanted the full answer, but that's the answer.
18:17 What am I doing right now?
18:18 That's the kind of stuff I'm doing right now.
18:22 A lot of miscellaneous stuff that is like 3D adjacent.
18:34 That was my reminder for you.
18:36 effective.
18:37 Uh, I'm going to write a note to myself so I don't forget again.
18:41 Second, giant Post-it notes.
18:49 Best thing ever.
18:58 Uh, there was there's something else I was going to say.
19:01 Oh, I was just going to say light box.
19:02 While we're on the topic of lightbox, just before I forget again,
19:05 there is a pinned comment in the wherever the thing is,
19:10 the chat and link in the description.
19:12 If you are going to Lightbox, fill out the form.
19:15 It's not a crazy form.
19:16 It's just like if you have any ideas
19:18 or requests or things you'd like to see at Lightbox,
19:20 I'm going to be doing some stuff.
19:21 And so, if you have stuff that you'd really like to have happening, let me know.
19:27 But then there's other stuff, too.
19:28 There's there's another there's another reason why if you're going to Lightbox,
19:33 you should fill out the form,
19:34 but I can't tell you why yet, but you should do it.
19:36 If you're going to Lightbox or you're going to be in LA
19:38 or you're going to be in Pasadena at the end of the month,
19:41 you should fill out the form.
19:43 Can't tell you why just yet because there's
19:46 like a 80% chance I think it's an 80%
19:53 chance that there's going to be something very
19:55 very cool happening that I have no better
20:00 way to let you know than if you fill out the form because then I can
20:02 just like there's a little question that's like
20:05 hey what are your plans on a certain day?
20:07 Got got plans?
20:09 No.
20:09 Good to know.
20:10 So, you know, fill the form.
20:13 Uh, oh, but I can tell you if you're going to Lightbox,
20:17 I'm going to be doing some giveaways, which will be really exciting.
20:20 I don't know if I want to tell you all of what I'm giving away,
20:23 but I'll tell you some of what's being given away.
20:26 I've got some stuff that I'm bringing with me to the convention.
20:34 And then some of the channel sponsors and uh
20:37 brand partners that I that I work with.
20:39 I reached out to a bunch of the companies that I work
20:41 with on YouTube and who sponsor my videos and are supportive and you
20:45 know help me do what I do because one of the biggest
20:48 ways that I'm able to pay my bills is with sponsored videos.
20:50 And so the uh I reached out to a bunch of my sponsors
20:55 and you know companies I work with and the contacts there and said,
20:58 "Hey, I'm doing all this stuff at Lightbox.
21:00 Do you want to get involved?
21:01 Do you want to help like make this cool?"
21:02 And a lot of them well there wasn't a lot of time.
21:07 It was a kind of a it was planning some of the stuff
21:11 I planned it took a bit longer and so there wasn't
21:13 a whole lot of time for people to like arrange stuff and so
21:17 in the limited time we've had not everybody was able to say yes.
21:20 A lot of people wanted to but like ah we can't for XY reasons
21:23 but a lot of companies came through a fair
21:27 amount have come through with some cool stuff.
21:29 So we've got some software licenses.
21:32 We've got actually I don't know what one of the products is.
21:39 Give me a second.
21:40 What is this item?
21:45 Is it Is it a Oh, this it's one of these.
21:55 Give me a second.
21:56 I'm not going to show it because I don't know which model it
21:59 is and I don't want to get anyone's hopes up for the wrong thing.
22:04 Is it a tablet?
22:07 I think it's I'm fairly certain.
22:16 It's just a It's just a tablet, right?
22:24 Just making sure that it's not like a computer.
22:26 Also, I don't think it's a computer.
22:28 I think it's just a Oh, wait.
22:32 Oh, no.
22:34 It's a proper tablet.
22:36 It actually is not a display tablet.
22:39 Ah, that's cool.
22:41 I'm actually not familiar with this thing yet.
22:44 Anyways, there's going to be some very cool giveaways at Lightbox.
22:48 We're going to have uh a tablet a certain tablet software licenses.
22:58 Um, I'm forgetting I'm blanking some cool like desk peripherals,
23:03 like things you plug into your computer to do cool stuff in 3D.
23:11 There's one thing in particular that I've been told
23:18 that we're going to be able to give away,
23:20 but I don't know for sure that it's going to arrive in time.
23:22 And so, it will be given away.
23:25 It just may not be with me there.
23:27 And so, it's either going to be something
23:28 that I hand to someone at the event and say,
23:30 "You've won this." Or it's something that I have to get somebody like,
23:34 "All right, share your address and it'll be shipped to you.
23:41 But I'm gonna I'm gonna hang on to that one.
23:43 We still have more live streams this month.
23:45 How else do I keep you coming back?
23:47 Anyway, we're going to be doing some cool giveaways.
23:50 I've also reached out to a few animation studios and I'm trying
23:53 to see if any studios want to provide some like studio merch,
23:58 movie posters, that kind of stuff.
23:59 We'll see.
24:00 I don't have a lot of contacts at like in those departments at studios.
24:04 So like I'm not really sure who to ask most of the time,
24:06 but I'm kind of reaching out here and there to be like,
24:07 "Hey, do you guys have any like extra
24:09 stuff you want to just share with people?" So,
24:14 you know, hopefully some fun stuff.
24:18 Anyway, now that you're in New York,
24:21 you desperately need to go to the old Reinbeck Aerodyome and see the air shows.
24:26 Huh.
24:27 I don't think I've seen an air show since I was a kid.
24:31 Feel like I vaguely remember an air show at some point in my life,
24:34 but I don't really think I've been
24:36 to an air show as like a cognitively whole person.
24:47 Moved to Unreal recently, but finding simple rigs such as bouncing
24:50 ball rig with tails and legs for animating.
24:52 Wait, move finding simple is a problem.
24:57 Yeah, there's um there's not a ton of rigs yet for Unreal.
25:02 I mean, there's some, but there's not a lot.
25:04 The thing that I would recommend is the cardboard box.
25:07 There is a cardboard box rig built into the control
25:09 rig sample pack inside of uh Fab that gives you
25:14 a lot of the stuff that you're going to want
25:15 to play with that a bouncing ball would normally do.
25:18 So, if you're trying to kind of just peek into Unreal,
25:24 um I go all through all that stuff in my Unreal classes, but in general,
25:28 if you're just trying to jump into Unreal and you want to start some animation,
25:31 grab the control rig sample pack off of Fab
25:34 and inside of it's a control rig folder props card box.
25:41 It's it's in the props folder, but it's a cardboard box rig and it's
25:44 it's like a solid bouncing ball equivalent.
25:53 Uh, what's up?
25:54 I'm from Germany.
25:55 Hello.
25:56 Hello.
25:57 Hello.
26:01 Can't come.
26:01 Can't go to light box because I'm broke because America ain't safe right now.
26:06 Fair.
26:09 Can the prizes be shipped to Canada?
26:12 I'm planning on just having them with me.
26:14 My my plan is to just everything I'm planning on giving away at Lightbox,
26:17 I'm planning on just handing to people.
26:21 Uh because one of the things about Canada is if
26:23 I were to ship stuff to Canada, I'm Is that true?
26:27 I'm fairly certain that if I ship stuff to Canada,
26:30 you have to pay like additional taxes when you pick it up or something.
26:35 I forget the details now.
26:36 It's been a while since I've had to deal with that.
26:39 But I'm I'm not planning on doing any shipping if I don't have to.
26:42 I'm just going to have the stuff with me at light box and be like,
26:44 "Here you go." And if you need to ship it to yourself, then ship it to yourself.
26:50 But that's kind of my plan.
26:54 What's up, Chris?
26:56 What's up, Cherry Bud?
27:00 Uh, yeah.
27:01 But, uh, light box should be a fun time.
27:03 I'm I have a lot of stuff left to do for planning that, uh, it's a lot.
27:11 I have a lot of things.
27:12 But it should be fine.
27:15 It'll be fine.
27:20 Um, but yeah, what's everybody else?
27:24 What's everybody else doing?
27:25 What what animated movies have we seen lately?
27:27 Or what other movies in general have we seen?
27:29 No spoilers.
27:30 There's a spoiler-free zone.
27:32 No discussions of plots.
27:34 Just general question.
27:37 Any movies that people should watch?
27:41 any games that people should play?
27:45 Feel like I've been more in uh game territory than movie territory lately.
27:51 When I have free time, just want to play video games.
27:58 Is that that movie?
28:01 I feel like I I feel like I know what movie you're talking about.
28:06 Is it on Netflix?
28:07 I can't remember where it lives.
28:09 Also, I had no idea you were going to be at Lightbox.
28:11 I hope to meet you there.
28:12 Yeah, I haven't announced it very well.
28:15 I've only talked about it in these live streams.
28:16 I need to make some posts.
28:19 I'm very bad at promoting stuff.
28:21 Uh, are you going to have your own booth
28:23 or will you be presenting a demo on the stage?
28:24 Both.
28:25 I will be doing both.
28:27 Uh, if you actually I should share the link to this here.
28:31 Let me drop this in chat.
28:37 I will have a booth, booth 831.
28:40 It's kind of in the back on the right side.
28:44 And then I will be giving two talks, one on Saturday, one on Sunday.
28:49 And I'm giving a talk on uh going solo and working
28:53 as an independent artist and the things I've learned there.
28:57 And then I'll be giving a talk on Emerald Engine.
29:00 So two different talks Saturday, Sunday.
29:03 And then a booth.
29:05 And then other stuff.
29:07 I'm going to be hosting some giveaways.
29:09 I've got some plans for some stuff going on at my booth.
29:13 Dot dot dot.
29:15 Other things in the works that aren't confirmed yet,
29:19 but I'm close to confirming them and very hopeful.
29:24 Very hopeful.
29:25 I'm optimistic.
29:26 Really hoping that they happen.
29:34 But yeah, it'll be a good time.
29:35 I I'm more involved in this year's Lightbox than I've ever been before,
29:38 which I'm very excited about.
29:39 I've always wanted to speak at Lightbox and like do more at the event.
29:42 And so, this is hopefully the first of many Lightbox adventures.
29:49 I'm also planning on making some videos at Lightbox this year.
29:51 I have never I haven't made a video at or from Lightbox
29:55 since the first year I ever went to it.
29:57 Since the first year it started in 2019, I haven't made a video.
30:00 I never bring my camera to Lightbox or anything.
30:03 But this year, I'm planning on actually making some stuff, which would be fun.
30:09 So, if you were there and you want to be in a video,
30:11 you know, just jumping in front of the camera.
30:15 Thoroughly enjoying Claire Obscure.
30:17 Expedition 33.
30:20 H, I don't know that game.
30:24 I feel like I'm always really late to the party
30:26 on like what games are popular and what games are like like,
30:29 oh my gosh, everyone's playing this.
30:33 Huh.
30:35 Yeah, I have to see I've seen nothing of this game.
30:39 Turnbased RPG with unique real-time mechanics.
30:42 Cool.
30:45 I have to check it out.
30:48 I'm so behind on like the game like like B, wasn't it Bolatro?
30:53 The game of the year last year was
30:55 the card game that everyone was like, "Don't play it.
30:57 You'll get addicted." I really want to try it.
30:59 I have yet to even buy it.
31:02 I'm just I'm always behind my list of like I'm working through my games.
31:05 It's just I'm so slow.
31:07 I never have time reading more than anything else right now.
31:16 I have been also trying to read more.
31:18 What's What do you What is your genre?
31:22 I'm like I was going to say what is your genre of book?
31:25 I'm like sci-fi fantasy.
31:28 Those are my two.
31:30 I live in fiction, fantasy, and sci-fi.
31:33 That's like where my where I live.
31:36 What was the last thing I read?
31:38 I'm listening to some audio books right now,
31:40 but I don't quite count that as the same.
31:42 I count that as like having read a book,
31:44 but I don't count it as actively reading.
31:47 I'm What am I actively reading right now?
31:51 I guess I finished a book recently.
31:55 What was it?
31:56 Shoot.
31:56 What was the book I just finished?
32:00 I can't remember the name of the book I just finished.
32:05 What the heck?
32:07 Oh.
32:07 Oh.
32:08 Oh.
32:08 Oh.
32:08 It was the um What's that zombie movie?
32:11 Like that Dawn of the Dead or something?
32:14 Is that right?
32:15 Dawn of the Dead.
32:16 Is it book?
32:19 Yeah, I just read Dawn of the Dead.
32:21 That's pretty good.
32:24 Before that, I was I wrote like I read like
32:26 three different separate books and separate series about like magic.
32:32 One was really actually one was really like intense and kind of like
32:35 thrillery and another one was more like mystery noir kind of thing.
32:46 Both very good.
32:55 The Chinese movie, highest grossing animated film of all time.
32:57 Yeah, but where does it live?
32:59 Isn't it on Netflix or something?
33:01 Or maybe I just saw it.
33:02 I don't know where I saw it.
33:03 Somewhere I saw it and I was like wish list,
33:06 but I don't remember where that was.
33:12 It wasn't feeling like going out of the light box,
33:13 but after hearing that you're coming through might actually,
33:15 but I haven't got my tickets at all.
33:19 I think I think there's still tickets.
33:22 I don't think they've sold out or anything.
33:25 I actually Oh, here's I guess here's the thing I'll say.
33:28 Um I need to make a post about this.
33:30 I have not actually posted about this anywhere, but I'm looking for two things.
33:36 Well, I'm looking for several things to light box,
33:38 but um there are two things that I need to announce.
33:45 It's not like an announcement,
33:46 but I need to like make a post about it somewhere.
33:49 I haven't set up a form for either of these things yet.
33:52 I need to set up forms for both of these things.
33:54 But, uh, I'm currently looking for two things for Lightbox.
34:00 If there are any animators who want to be able to, if
34:06 there's any animators who want to give feedback to artists at Lightbox,
34:10 because that's one of the things it's like people love
34:12 to get feedback on their work when they go to these events.
34:14 And if you are someone who's like like I would love to give feedback.
34:18 I like doing that.
34:20 Um, I'm looking for some animators to participate
34:25 in some of the stuff I'm doing in my booth.
34:27 One of those things is providing feedback for people.
34:31 There's more to it than that, but at a really base level,
34:34 that's one of the things I'm looking for.
34:35 And so, I need to make a form to like where people can like say, "Oo, me.
34:41 Here's my information.
34:42 Here's the days I'm going." But that's one thing I'm looking for.
34:44 And so if that is you, then since I don't have a form yet,
34:48 feel free to either email me or DM me on Discord
34:51 or something or DM me on Instagram or LinkedIn or whatever.
34:57 Um, those are the platforms I use.
34:59 Email, Discord, LinkedIn, Instagram.
35:03 I don't think I get notifications for all of them.
35:07 No, I don't think I get notifications for all of them.
35:10 some of them I do.
35:11 Anyway, but uh that's one thing and then the other
35:16 thing and this is probably a little bit Yeah,
35:21 the other thing I'm looking for is I am
35:24 going when I'm not allowed to leave my booth.
35:27 If you have a booth at Lightbox and I think most conferences,
35:30 you're not allowed to leave the booth empty.
35:33 There has to be someone at the booth at all times.
35:35 Uh, which also since I'm gonna have like a laptop
35:39 there and like I'm doing stuff at the booth,
35:41 like I'm not going to want to just like leave it there either.
35:43 So, uh, Jess will be with me, my wife.
35:47 She'll be there helping with stuff,
35:48 but there will be times that I'm going to be speaking and so I'm going
35:51 to want to go and speak and she's going to come with me and see me speak.
35:57 And so, uh, I will need to make a form
36:01 for this, but I will be looking for two people.
36:05 to help with my booth.
36:09 Um, two volunteers essentially.
36:13 And what I can offer you in exchange is uh ticket to light box.
36:20 It's not constant, right?
36:22 because it's not like like I'll be at the booth most of the time,
36:25 but there's going to be times that I'm going to need
36:26 to like I want to go buy art or I'm going to need
36:28 to take a meeting or I'm going to be speaking or I
36:31 just need to step away for a minute for whatever reason or something.
36:35 Um, and so sometimes I'll leave and then Jess will run
36:39 the booth and sometimes we'll both need to step away or whatever.
36:42 And so it's not like it's on call necessarily.
36:45 There might be like a couple there there might be a time
36:48 like ah but more than anything it's it's a scheduled thing.
36:51 It's like for these pockets of time,
36:56 take over the booth so that I can go do my speaking my talk or whatever.
37:02 And so if anybody here is wanting to go to Lightbox and yeah,
37:10 if you want to go to Lightbox and you're in the LA area or you're
37:12 planning on being there or whatever and uh I I need to make a form
37:19 to make this like official and it's kind of like a job interview or job
37:23 application in a way just because like I need to know a little bit about people.
37:29 I'm gonna trust you to run the booth and like watch my laptop
37:32 and generally just kind of be there representing what I'm doing there.
37:36 Um, I need to know a little bit about you.
37:42 I'm going to sneeze.
37:46 Excuse me.
37:48 But yeah, so you know,
37:51 if somebody comes looking for me or somebody comes like asking and you're like,
37:55 "Oh, I don't like to talk to people.
37:56 It freaks me out to have to like talk to people." then like well it's
37:59 probably not the right fit because you have to run the booth for a little bit.
38:04 Um but anyways so uh just as a as a thing
38:09 if anybody here's considering going to light boot light
38:12 box or you haven't bought your tickets yet or you
38:15 want to give your ticket to somebody else and you
38:17 want another ticket or something like if you're if anybody
38:19 here is interested uh or if you're watching this later
38:23 when it's no longer live uh I will need
38:25 to put a form but feel free to reach out.
38:27 I will be doing that for him probably today.
38:30 I need to actually really do that because lightbox starts two weeks from today.
38:36 Literally, it is what two o'clock in an hour because the doors
38:40 open I think at noon on Friday if I'm not mistaken.
38:44 So in one hour, two weeks from now, Lightbox begins.
38:51 So I really need to do that.
38:52 So anyway, I will likely make that form this evening
38:56 and I'm going to post some stuff on my Instagram and I'm
38:59 going to post some stuff on I'll probably make a YouTube
39:03 community post and I might even post it on LinkedIn.
39:05 I should probably post on LinkedIn.
39:06 I'll post it on LinkedIn.
39:08 But anyway, yeah, because for having a booth,
39:14 I'm going to have two exhibitor badges for paying
39:17 for a booth because I'm not going to have an artist booth.
39:20 I'm going to have like a It's not a sponsor booth.
39:23 I guess it's I don't know.
39:25 There's like artist Alley.
39:26 If you've been to Lightbox before, then you might know the layout a little bit.
39:30 Artist Alley is like where there's artists and you
39:33 can like buy their art and support them.
39:37 I don't make physical art as much as I wish I could.
39:40 It's not really my thing.
39:42 At least not yet.
39:43 One day maybe, but I'm not there.
39:45 And so I don't have an artist alley booth.
39:47 I have like a sponsor booth,
39:49 but not like a fancy sponsor booth because I'm not like a studio.
39:55 I have a smaller sponsor booth.
39:57 So anyway, um for doing that, I got two exhibitor
40:03 badges and then for being a speaker I get a badge.
40:06 So I'll have one and then I I bought
40:09 a second I bought an extra exhibitor badge as well.
40:13 That way Jess and I both have badges.
40:17 so that we can get in when we need to get
40:18 in and set up the booth and all the other stuff.
40:20 And then I have an additional exhibitor badge so
40:23 that somebody else is able to come in at any time
40:26 because the exhibitor badge lets you get in early and stay
40:28 later because you're there for like setup and tear down.
40:30 And so if I need help with those kinds of things, then somebody has that.
40:35 But then so I'm not relying on one person.
40:37 If it's like, "Oh, I need this help at this time." And you're like, "Oh,
40:40 but there was a panel I really want to go
40:41 to, or I really need to go to the bathroom." I don't know.
40:45 like if there's a reason where like ooh I wanted
40:47 to make sure I had two people that way if
40:49 I have times that I need to step away there's
40:51 two different people that I can kind of rely on.
40:55 I don't know I don't know what the plan is.
40:56 I haven't figured out all the details but anyways uh
40:59 that's one of the things is I have two I had
41:05 to get an extra one manually but I now have
41:07 two we'll call them spare tickets but they're not spare tickets.
41:11 It's two tickets for those who can help me
41:14 run my booth for for limited pockets of time.
41:18 I'm not trying to monopolize your weekend.
41:22 So, if anyone's interested, that's my spiel.
41:25 I've just talking for way too long.
41:33 All right, back catching back up with chat.
41:37 I think it's the first new PC game I bought in several years.
41:39 Oh, wow.
41:42 Feel like every time there's a Steam sale,
41:44 I go and I find a game that's like, "Wow,
41:45 this game's like $3." And I like I buy a lot of these like
41:49 little games that only cost like a couple dollars here and there,
41:52 and then I just have this like library of games.
41:54 I'm like, "I haven't even installed half of these.
41:58 Very behind." I played I played two games recently, actually.
42:05 Not how recently?
42:07 Fairly recently.
42:08 I had like an evening and I was like, I'm playing games.
42:11 I'm playing games.
42:12 Damn it.
42:13 And I played Yes, your grace.
42:15 I think that's the name of it.
42:19 Yes, your grace.
42:20 Let me make sure.
42:24 Yes, that is it.
42:27 I don't know.
42:28 Yeah, game called Yes, your Grace.
42:31 Loved it.
42:32 Really good.
42:32 Really, really fun.
42:35 Um, it's a like a role playinging strategy pixel art game.
42:39 It's like resource management, but I don't know.
42:42 It's very story based, story driven,
42:44 and the choices impact the endings and things like that.
42:48 And I just played it straight through.
42:51 Like I played the whole thing straight through.
42:53 I didn't really mean to, but I did.
42:55 It was great.
42:56 And then I got to the end, I'm like, "Oh, I got like almost a perfect ending.
42:59 I got like a really good ending, which I I didn't realize.
43:03 I didn't really realize that like there were different endings
43:06 until it was like you got like a pretty good ending.
43:08 I was like oh I'm glad I made certain decisions then.
43:12 Anyway, it's very fun.
43:14 I recommend it.
43:19 Uh let's see.
43:20 I read mostly horror, sci-fi, and fantasy,
43:22 but I also read a lot of non-fiction as well.
43:24 I can't.
43:25 Well, I always used to say that I
43:28 can't do non-fiction because I found it so boring.
43:29 But I feel like at this point in my life,
43:31 I probably would enjoy I probably wouldn't like hate non-fiction.
43:35 When I was younger, I was like, I'm not reading non-fiction.
43:39 But I think like I'm I'm I'm more mature these days.
43:43 I think I could read some non-fiction.
43:44 Probably be good for me.
43:48 Although horror, I don't like to be scared.
43:51 I don't know.
43:54 Maybe in a book.
43:56 Maybe in a book.
43:58 Maybe that could be better.
43:59 I'll try it sometime.
44:00 Maybe.
44:01 I just finished The Secret Market of the Dead.
44:04 I'm still reading level up.
44:06 Oh, save those over here.
44:11 Those sound interesting.
44:16 Bit of shameless promotion.
44:17 You should check out a game I worked on called Rivals of Aether 2.
44:20 I did all the victory animations for it.
44:22 Well, that's cool.
44:23 Now I have to check it out.
44:24 Rivals of Aether 2.
44:26 Copy paste.
44:29 Fun.
44:33 Ah, these rigs are fun.
44:35 Are these characters?
44:39 They look kind of like Well, they don't look like Pokemon,
44:43 but it's like it's kind of in that spirit of like elemental animals.
44:47 That looks like a lot of fun, actually.
44:51 Yeah.
44:52 I want to see the victory animations.
44:53 I'm gonna have to I'm gonna like literally later I'm
44:55 gonna type in victory animations and try to look at them.
44:57 That's super cool.
45:05 Um, ever thought, wait, ever thought about why can't I read?
45:12 Ever thought about like doing a video series where people
45:14 send you their trashy animations and you go through them,
45:17 say what's wrong, and then reanimate them?
45:19 That's an interesting idea, but I don't think I'm really
45:22 comfortable like reanimating somebody's work, you know?
45:26 Like, it's a fun idea.
45:27 It would be a lot of fun to watch for sure.
45:29 Like, it's a it's a great concept,
45:31 but I would don't think I'd be very comfortable
45:34 reanimating somebody's work because then it's a couple things.
45:36 It's like that that's very presumptuous of me
45:40 to think that I can like outdo anybody's animation.
45:42 Like, ah, I can do it better.
45:44 Hand it over.
45:46 Um, it's a little bit of an odd energy.
45:50 And then the other thing is like if I did
45:53 that, I can't really claim that shot as my own.
45:57 Not that I want to, but I like that wouldn't really be
45:59 right because I'm basically just like building off of somebody else's shot.
46:03 But at the same time, I've then taken their shot and done whatever I've done
46:06 to it to where it's no longer their shot either.
46:10 And it's not like in like a collaborative spirit to like make the movie better,
46:14 make the game great.
46:15 It's sort of just like pollution in a way.
46:20 It's a great idea.
46:21 Like it it sounds like a lot of fun to watch because it'd be really interesting.
46:24 It probably actually very helpful and beneficial
46:26 for people to like absorb stuff,
46:28 but I think it'd be very difficult to like frame
46:32 that properly of taking someone's animation and like hijacking it.
46:39 I have thought of other ideas that are like not
46:42 as entertaining as as that but a little bit less shady.
46:48 But that's also why I haven't done those videos cuz they're not as entertaining.
46:53 But I have a few ideas that are kind of in line where it's
46:56 like people provide their animation and then we do some fun stuff with it.
46:59 But I like the concept.
47:02 But it's not I don't think it's for me.
47:04 And I think it'd be if anyone actually really
47:06 if anybody did it I'd be like that's weird.
47:13 I've read non-fiction books and watched documentaries since elementary school.
47:16 I discovered documentaries so late.
47:18 You're probably a lot smarter than I am.
47:21 Documentaries are great.
47:27 I think the first documentary, well maybe not the first, as an adult,
47:32 the first documentary that I like properly chose to sit
47:35 down and watch and then like loved was the Imagineering one,
47:39 the Disneyland Imagineering documentary, like docky series on Netflix.
47:45 I guess Disney, it was Disney Plus when Disney Plus first came out.
47:48 That was amazing.
47:50 so much I did not know about the Imagineers and the engineering challenges.
47:54 And anyway, that was all very cool.
47:57 And that's when I was like, "Wow,
47:58 I've been missing out on documentaries this all
48:00 this time." It's like they're like video essays but more.
48:10 I really liked the Into the Unknown Making Frozen 2 documentary.
48:14 Oh, yeah.
48:15 I feel like I watched that and that was really good.
48:19 I don't really remember it now,
48:21 but I do think I watched it and I do think I enjoyed it.
48:26 There's a YouTube channel I really really like called No Clip.
48:30 It's uh game documentaries.
48:32 They embed themselves in studios during the development
48:35 of games and they document all the stuff and then
48:38 they at the end they they turn around some
48:40 kind of documentary about the process of making that game.
48:44 It's called No Clip, one word and it's so good.
48:48 They're really really good, like well produced and really interesting.
48:53 And they have some on Hades and they have some on various games,
48:57 but they have some on um on Bethesda
49:01 that I love because they talk about Fallout 4.
49:05 What is it they do?
49:06 Oh, no.
49:07 They have two videos.
49:07 They have the history of Bethesda game studios and then
49:10 they have one on Fallout 76 which loops through Fallout 4,
49:15 Fall of Shelter and then Fallout 76
49:17 because it I think they released that documentary
49:20 when the game was announced because it
49:22 had been there during the development of it.
49:24 It's fascinating.
49:25 It's so interesting.
49:26 And another one, what's it called?
49:30 Raising Kratos.
49:31 Oh, Raising Kratos.
49:34 I forget.
49:34 It's the It's the Sony.
49:36 It's the PlayStation.
49:38 It's like an hour and a half or two hours.
49:40 It's the God of War documentary from the rebooted
49:44 God of War game from a couple years ago.
49:46 That one is so so flipping good.
49:50 I think that was that was my first is that the first
49:56 that might have been the first like
49:58 game development documentary I had ever found.
50:01 And I was completely just like like I had no idea that that's
50:06 how so much of games like I I didn't know much about games.
50:10 All of my education in animation was for feature film.
50:13 And through experience I learned about TV
50:16 and commercials and like other stuff that's more similar.
50:19 I never had exposure to games which is a huge like missed opportunity for me.
50:24 Like when I was going through school and I was like picking mentors,
50:26 I only ever picked like movie people.
50:30 Like, man, I wish I had learned from games
50:31 artists because it's so different and it's so interesting.
50:36 Anyway, that's a really really good documentary.
50:38 I think it's called Raising Kratos.
50:42 I can't remember.
50:43 It's got the game director and he's Cory Barlo
50:46 and he's got like a little like doll of Kratos
50:49 in like a little um like a baby harness
50:51 on his chest and he's like that's the thumbnail.
50:56 Very good.
50:56 If you're interested about game animation or if
50:59 you don't think you're interested in game animation,
51:00 you should watch it because you might actually be interested in game animation.
51:06 Hold on a second.
51:14 Oh, hang on a second.
51:15 Email's coming in.
51:16 Got to check this.
51:17 Actually, I should probably I can check on my computer.
51:22 like worried that I'd like dox myself and show my email,
51:25 but I'm not sharing my screen, so it's fine.
51:29 Give me two seconds to make sure that I
51:30 don't need to do anything right this moment.
51:42 [Music] Yes.
51:45 Yes.
51:45 Yes.
51:50 Yes.
51:50 Yes.
51:53 Yes.
52:02 Week.
52:04 Okay.
52:06 Uh, good email.
52:09 Good positive email.
52:10 Not something I can talk about,
52:12 but also not something we need to worry about right now.
52:18 If I don't check my emails right when they come in, they will get buried.
52:22 And so a lot of times I don't realize when something comes in and then
52:25 it gets buried and then I'm like going about my day and I'm like,
52:27 "Wait, when did that come in?
52:28 Oh my gosh, I missed that.
52:33 That happens a lot.
52:35 So when I do catch an email, I'm like, go look at it." All right.
52:41 Did you ever see Beyond the Mind's Eye, 1982?
52:44 No, I've never heard of that movie.
52:45 Is that I assume it's a movie.
52:49 Watch the behind the scenes stuff VHS for the original trilogy of Star
52:52 Wars made me fall in love with special effects and model making.
52:55 That's cool.
52:56 I don't remember where I saw those videos for the first time
52:59 because I had I remember we had the VHS for Star Wars,
53:04 but I never watched any special features on VHS for Star Wars.
53:08 I don't know where I saw those, but I know what you're talking about.
53:10 those videos where they're like showing like, "Oh,
53:12 we take these little pieces and we put them on the the Millennium Falcon.
53:23 I don't think I ever watched the full thing." You know,
53:25 the ones I wish I would have found, I wish I would have discovered.
53:28 I never growing up, I never went to the bonus features on a DVD.
53:34 I never had like behind the scenes on VHS.
53:37 Like I never encountered behind the scenes anything for any media ever.
53:44 And it sucks because I was so interested
53:47 in certain things and I did not understand how they
53:49 worked and the information was there and I just
53:51 didn't know it and so I never saw it.
53:54 Like Lord of the Rings, I would watch Lord of the Rings every day twice a day.
54:03 I just like I would just have it on.
54:05 I had one of those TVs in my room that was
54:08 like it had a VCR and a DVD player built into it,
54:10 which is like a big CRT with the the two things built in.
54:14 And in my room, this was in like middle school, high school,
54:18 I had this TV in my room and I just
54:24 kept the Lord of the Rings trilogy in my room
54:26 and I would just like cycle through the DVDs and I
54:30 would just play and sometimes I just like let them play
54:32 and I'd be doing other things and like on my computer
54:34 like animating stick figures and stuff and I just have
54:39 the Lord of the Rings on and if they finished
54:41 the movie sometimes I wouldn't even switch to the next disc,
54:44 I just hit play again and I just like let it replay.
54:46 Uh, and I never knew I I never thought to go
54:50 into special features or bonus features or whatever it was.
54:52 Like I did not know that these extended editions, Lord of the Rings,
54:56 had so much behindthe-scenes content of how the movies were made.
54:58 I had no clue that that stuff was there.
55:02 And so I just never saw those videos.
55:05 And to this day, I've never seen the full
55:06 behind the scenes for Lord of the Rings,
55:08 which I'm It drives me crazy because every time I'll get like sort
55:10 of some clip of like some behind the scenes video I've never seen,
55:13 I'm like, "Where'd this come from?" And like,
55:15 "Oh, this has been here forever." Anyway,
55:24 computer enhance his eyes so we can see the reflection.
55:26 Oh, my reading my email.
55:29 How dare you?
55:32 Uh, Austin, hi.
55:33 I recently found your channel from an older PC for animation.
55:36 Wait, from an older PC for animation video.
55:38 Followed up with your most recent one.
55:40 Super cool to see what you're doing.
55:41 Oh, thank you.
55:43 What What video did you find me with?
55:46 I'm curious if you if you remember.
55:47 Recently found your channel from an older PC for animation video.
55:53 Older PC for animation video.
55:54 Is that the topic of the video?
55:56 Did I have a video that was like using old computer for animation?
56:01 I don't know.
56:01 I don't I don't remember.
56:03 I'm very curious how you discovered my channel.
56:05 If anybody knows if anybody here remembers the like the first
56:10 video that you like found my channel, I'd be so curious.
56:16 Actually, I'd be curious for two things.
56:18 What was the first video you can remember that you found of mine?
56:23 And what video has been your favorite?
56:25 Those would be my two questions.
56:27 So, like which one did you think you
56:28 discovered for the first time that you remember?
56:31 And which one like was the the best most
56:36 useful or most helpful or most like meaningful or something.
56:42 Oh, good.
56:43 I got another message.
56:44 See, I like this is like the third one since I've been streaming.
56:48 But this one, hooray.
56:53 The shots that I've done for the corridor video have all worked.
56:57 They're all approved.
56:59 They're all rendered.
57:00 That's great.
57:01 It's not all the shots that I have to work
57:03 on, but it's the ones that I've submitted so far.
57:05 Those have all been final and they're already rendered.
57:09 That's good news.
57:11 We love that.
57:17 A fun little fact though,
57:18 I'm doing all the animation for this project in Unreal Engine.
57:22 I had a choice.
57:23 I was given skinned models basically these like meshes that were
57:30 you know they deform they have bones they have skeletons and technically
57:34 they were some of them were rigged in Blender like there
57:37 was a rig available to me in Blender and I could
57:40 have chosen like did I want to animate in Blender animate
57:44 in Maya animate Unreal like where do I want to animate Cinema
57:46 4D and I chose to animate in Unreal Engine and I
57:51 rigged and animated the characters in Unreal and it's been going great.
57:55 I've really been enjoying it.
57:57 I feel like it was definitely the right choice for this project so far.
58:02 Currently dealing with one of the assets that's not working great
58:05 though with the rig and I'm trying to solve that problem.
58:09 It's definitely a me problem.
58:11 I don't know what I've I don't know what's
58:13 broken and I don't know what I need to fix.
58:14 So, I'm trying to figure it out.
58:18 I tend to annoy people when watching movies because I'm constantly wondering
58:21 how the VFX is done and how cool the environment and lighting is.
58:25 When I watch a movie, we don't talk.
58:29 No talking in my movie.
58:32 I can't handle it.
58:34 When like if you're watching something like if
58:36 you're if you're watching like there's like casual
58:40 viewing of like oh you just kind of put it on in the background doesn't matter.
58:45 But if there's like, oh man, I've been wanting to watch this movie.
58:48 Oh, I've been waiting to watch this TV series.
58:50 Like, oh, I've been so excited for like,
58:53 you know, to play this game, whatever it is.
58:55 I want to be so fully immersed in that experience.
58:58 I want the biggest best screen available to me.
59:02 Doesn't mean it has to be the best screen in the world, right?
59:04 It just means whatever I have available to me, I've got to pick the best one.
59:09 If I have the option for like a good sound system, got to have it, right?
59:14 Like if I if if I only had one chance to watch
59:17 something and it was like I have to watch it on my phone,
59:19 I'd watch it on my phone because if I'm if I only have the one chance,
59:21 then I'll do my best.
59:23 But like if I'm at home or if I have the ability to be home in the near future,
59:28 I'm never going to watch a movie or a show
59:30 or something that I've been like waiting to watch,
59:32 I'm never going to watch it on an iPad.
59:34 I'm never going to watch it on a phone or on a plane.
59:37 Like it's got to be on like this on the TV.
59:41 And I don't have like that crazy of a like
59:46 sound system and the TV is not I don't know.
59:48 It's not I'm not like ridiculous.
59:50 It's just I'm always going to choose the best
59:52 thing and when I watch it, don't speak to me.
59:55 Don't talk.
59:57 Shush.
59:58 We're watching.
59:59 This is how they intended us for to experience it.
1:00:04 So people are like talking in movie theaters drives me crazy.
1:00:06 So I I I half the time I can't
1:00:08 go to movie theaters anymore because like especially after
1:00:10 co people are weird now like people don't know
1:00:12 how to be in a movie theater people are talking
1:00:14 they got their phones can't handle it even before
1:00:20 even before co it was during Avengers it was
1:00:25 Infinity War or Endgame I think it was Infinity
1:00:27 War I don't remember during one of the Aven Yeah.
1:00:30 No it was it was Infinity War.
1:00:33 We're watching Infinity War.
1:00:34 It's close to the end of the movie.
1:00:36 Things are going down.
1:00:38 Somebody in the row in front of me
1:00:41 pulls their phone out like during like action scenes.
1:00:44 Like there's like stuff happening.
1:00:45 They're like battling Thanos and like they like drop a moon on him.
1:00:50 They're doing all this stuff.
1:00:51 There's like a slight lull.
1:00:52 It's like the pacing kind of pauses for a second.
1:00:55 This person pulls their phone out in the row in front of me,
1:00:57 of course, full brightness.
1:00:59 big old yellow screen as they opened Snapchat
1:01:03 and they start scrolling on Snapchat, the white screen.
1:01:08 I took the biggest grip of popcorn and just hurled it
1:01:11 and I just started throwing popcorn at this person and they like,
1:01:17 you know, they like put their phone away and got all in.
1:01:23 And I was this close to take like I was I was like,
1:01:25 I don't want to waste all my popcorn.
1:01:26 there's a certain amount of popcorn I'm willing
1:01:28 to waste and I was approaching the limit
1:01:30 to where I was like if it doesn't work by this point I grab the drink.
1:01:33 I was so frustr I was so mad.
1:01:35 I was like no in like anyway I can't handle when
1:01:41 people are like talking in movies and of their phones whatever.
1:01:50 So I'm not fun to watch movies with.
1:01:55 If you're not that kind of person, then you won't enjoy watching movies with me.
1:02:00 But if that's how you are as well, then we'll get along great in a movie theater
1:02:04 because we'll both just like sit and it's like,
1:02:09 you know, we can like share a glance and like, oh, did you see that?
1:02:12 Crazy.
1:02:13 We're not going to discuss it until the end.
1:02:17 Anyway, I want to rant.
1:02:22 Oh, whoa, there's a bunch of I've missed a bunch of messages.
1:02:24 Uh, It was from like six years ago.
1:02:27 Wanting to build a computer was looking for advice
1:02:29 about PC builds for an animation production instead of gaming.
1:02:32 Ah, that makes sense.
1:02:35 Okay.
1:02:35 It was from like So, it was Yeah, that's an old video.
1:02:39 I hope that's an old video.
1:02:41 I hope that you didn't take what I said in the video too seriously today.
1:02:45 Like, I hope you got a second opinion because that is an old
1:02:47 and outdated video and that was also before I knew a lot of stuff.
1:02:52 Like I was sharing what I knew at the time
1:02:55 and at the time I think a lot of what I said was accurate.
1:02:58 At the time Intel was king and I think in the video
1:03:01 I even say like I'm only going to talk about Intel CPUs.
1:03:04 Like I'm not really going to talk about AMD.
1:03:06 I don't remember what I said.
1:03:06 It was like we don't need to worry about that right now.
1:03:10 That couldn't be so that like that's so not true today.
1:03:14 Like AMD is a great option and depending
1:03:16 on what you're doing it might be the best option.
1:03:18 Might not be but it might be.
1:03:20 Just kind of depends.
1:03:21 But uh yeah, and I remember people as the years have
1:03:25 gone on, I get comments on that video every so often.
1:03:27 It's like, "Oh my god, this guy's not talking about AMD.
1:03:29 Like, who is like this is a six-year-old video." Like, I wouldn't say that now.
1:03:34 But anyway, all that to say, I hope that the video was helpful in some way,
1:03:37 but that you didn't take it too too seriously because it's is
1:03:40 old and I hope you were able to recognize that it's outdated.
1:03:43 hopefully.
1:03:44 But um but yes, I I pride myself at this point on looking at technology
1:03:54 from an artistic perspective and a production
1:03:56 standpoint instead of like the gaming angle.
1:03:59 That's like I I really enjoy that because everyone else is focused on gaming.
1:04:02 So, it's like fun to look at the other side of it.
1:04:04 And so, I'm glad that that was a a thing
1:04:07 that you valued and that you found and that you recognize.
1:04:09 So, thank you.
1:04:12 And I really need to update that video and make a new version.
1:04:19 Uh, I have an animation question if you don't mind.
1:04:22 I don't mind.
1:04:24 I'm working on an animation assignment and my instructor said
1:04:26 that the hand motions are too symmetrical while she's speaking.
1:04:29 How do I avoid this issue?
1:04:32 My guess off the top of my head,
1:04:33 I'm assuming that your professor is talking about twinning.
1:04:37 That's probably what's being discussed, right?
1:04:39 Um, the hand motions are too symmetrical while speaking.
1:04:43 So, my guess is this.
1:04:45 I mean, I could be off.
1:04:46 Let me know if I'm not talking about the right thing,
1:04:48 but usually when somebody gets that note, they're they're being told that, "Oh,
1:04:52 your animation's got a lot of twinning in it."
1:04:53 And what that means is if I'm talking
1:04:55 like this, I'm basically doing the same poses
1:04:57 with both of my hands with roughly the same timing.
1:05:00 And if both of my hands are doing kind of the same thing,
1:05:04 maybe there's a little bit of offset here.
1:05:06 Maybe they kind of hit at slightly different times.
1:05:08 This one on this side has a little bit more overshoot than the other one,
1:05:13 but in general, everything I do is the same, right?
1:05:17 That's twinning.
1:05:18 It's a lot of this, it's a lot of this, it's a lot of this.
1:05:21 D.
1:05:21 And what that usually happens is when you are animating and you're grabbing
1:05:24 both arms at the same time and then you're kind of keying them together.
1:05:29 Or maybe it's not that you're keying them together.
1:05:32 I mean, often it is, but sometimes what happens is you're you go to a key
1:05:37 frame and you set a pose on everything and you like,
1:05:39 "All right, I'm going to take this hand.
1:05:40 I'm going to go up because I'm going to come down." And so you,
1:05:44 you know, go to frame 10 and you go up.
1:05:46 And then you move the other arm and you go up, but you do like a different up.
1:05:48 And so they're they're a little bit different, but they're not the same.
1:05:50 I didn't grab them both at the same time, and move them together,
1:05:52 but like, oh, they're both kind of doing their thing.
1:05:53 Maybe there's, you know, I've got some symmetry here.
1:05:56 And then you go to another frame, go to frame 15,
1:05:58 and you bring this down, and you go like this.
1:06:00 Ha.
1:06:00 And then you take this one and you have it go here.
1:06:03 And it's like, ah, they're different, but they're similar, right?
1:06:07 Because you're going to the same frames and doing similar things with both.
1:06:12 So, there's kind of that spectrum of like, you know, how bad is the twinning?
1:06:17 Like, are you literally grabbing both arms,
1:06:19 doing the same thing with each arm and each hand?
1:06:21 That's true twinning.
1:06:23 Or is it like, oh, they're close, but they're not exactly the same.
1:06:26 It's still pretty symmetrical.
1:06:27 It's still pretty flat.
1:06:29 And so hopefully that discussion gives you some ideas of like
1:06:33 you don't really want to like do that and use,
1:06:39 you know, don't grab both and just kind of like leave it with that.
1:06:42 Uh, hi.
1:06:43 You don't have to spam.
1:06:44 If you keep spamming, I'm going to mute you.
1:06:47 So, hello.
1:06:49 Um, bye, brother.
1:06:55 That was funny.
1:06:57 Um, yeah, you guys don't have to like send the same message over and over.
1:07:02 I'm going to see it.
1:07:03 I'm just I work through from top to bottom.
1:07:05 So, I'll get there.
1:07:09 Uh, let's see.
1:07:10 I'm in where where was the question?
1:07:12 Where was the question I was answering?
1:07:13 Let me go back up.
1:07:16 However, the issue.
1:07:16 So, you avoid the issue by not doing that.
1:07:18 But what to do instead is it kind of depends.
1:07:22 I saw someone else say something in there.
1:07:24 Acting it out and taking some reference.
1:07:25 Absolutely.
1:07:26 Um, if you're just kind of like working off a line of dialogue
1:07:32 and you're just staring at the computer
1:07:33 and you're just looking at your character rig,
1:07:36 typically the ideas that come into your head
1:07:38 are going to be very cliche actions.
1:07:39 If someone says, you know, I don't know, I'm so angry.
1:07:45 Gr, right?
1:07:46 You're going to get I'm so angry gr
1:07:48 like you're just going to get very like angry.
1:07:51 I'm thinking h you know like I'm happy.
1:07:55 Like you're just going to get really boring.
1:07:58 All right.
1:07:59 You're gonna get really boring default just cliche acting choices.
1:08:04 So what you should always try to do is like look
1:08:06 at reference like film your own reference or look at movies,
1:08:09 look at great actors,
1:08:10 look at just people in the world and just like find other stuff to do.
1:08:15 I have a whole video on my channel on um subtext.
1:08:18 It's an interview with JP Sands.
1:08:20 wonderful video.
1:08:21 Um, you should watch that.
1:08:24 So, go to my channel and search subtext su
1:08:28 text one word and uh that'll help a lot
1:08:32 of like how to actually figure out like what
1:08:35 should you be doing instead of these like generic gestures.
1:08:40 But ultimately the the short answer to your question is you
1:08:44 want to have different parts of the body doing different things.
1:08:49 not just arbitrarily to make them different, but based on things like subtext,
1:08:55 but you should basically be treating every part of the body with its
1:08:58 own timing because different things happen
1:09:01 at different times with different velocities, with different weight.
1:09:05 Um, and so even if you have a pose that's roughly similar and I'm kind of going
1:09:10 like this, I can have my hands do kind of the same thing for a little bit,
1:09:15 but then they've got to do other stuff at some point.
1:09:17 Maybe one of them starts doing this pose while the other one's,
1:09:20 you know, not doing that pose.
1:09:22 It's hard to think about it and try to explain it.
1:09:24 But anyway, that's that's a bunch
1:09:26 of talking around your Hopefully that was helpful.
1:09:30 I found your video on Disney.
1:09:32 Oh, nice.
1:09:32 On the on the Disneyland video.
1:09:34 That's a good one.
1:09:36 Found your channel when I was looking for animation workflow.
1:09:38 Oh, the workflow video.
1:09:39 That's a fun one.
1:09:43 How to become an animator episode one.
1:09:46 a classic.
1:09:48 Favorite most useful enemy with IKFK.
1:09:49 Oh, interesting.
1:09:54 That's a good one.
1:09:55 That's one that I think I should update, too.
1:09:59 Fun fact, if anybody here is familiar with my how to become an animator series,
1:10:02 like the original videos, the original episodes on this channel where I
1:10:06 was literally just sitting on a couch and just
1:10:07 telling my story of like how I started
1:10:10 animation and got to DreamWorks, that kind of thing.
1:10:14 I've been thinking about returning to that format
1:10:17 just for fun for a couple of videos and just like updating the story and sharing
1:10:22 other stuff that happened along the way.
1:10:23 Like I haven't done that in I don't know how long,
1:10:26 but I thought it'd be kind of fun to just
1:10:27 like return to the beginning and just do that.
1:10:30 Just like tell a campfire story.
1:10:34 Oh, hello.
1:10:49 One second.
1:11:35 All right, I'm back.
1:11:40 Uh, let's see.
1:11:46 I want to make more.
1:11:47 I want to Sorry, I'm If you If you've recently sent a message,
1:11:51 just know that I'm working through the ones in order
1:11:53 and I'll get down to the new ones in a second.
1:11:55 I'm a little bit behind.
1:11:56 Uh, I want to make my portfolio website as a 3D environment artist.
1:12:02 The problem is that most of them are still renders.
1:12:05 Wait, I want to make my portfolio website as a 3D environment artist.
1:12:07 The problem is that most of them are still renders.
1:12:10 Is there a reason why you can't animate a camera move through
1:12:13 it or just kind of like spin your environment or something like that?
1:12:17 Like maybe you're not familiar with animation
1:12:20 to like animate a camera or something.
1:12:22 I'm not sure.
1:12:23 But um yeah, if you are trying to do 3D environment art
1:12:28 and you feel like the still renders are holding back your portfolio,
1:12:31 then you should you should totally do some animated camera stuff.
1:12:37 And if your if your environment is difficult to render in your tool of choice,
1:12:41 like I don't know what you're using, but for example,
1:12:42 if you were doing it in Maya and like you needed better lighting or something,
1:12:48 you could always export it to Unreal or to Blender or something, I don't know.
1:12:56 Found your channel when you uploaded animation workflow and Unreal stuff.
1:12:59 I do a lot of Unreal animations, which aligns with my interest.
1:13:01 Oh, nice.
1:13:02 Yeah, you'll like the stuff that I'm working on now then,
1:13:05 which hopefully I'll post soon.
1:13:10 I try not to talk, but some of the things are just cool to me.
1:13:15 You inspired me to You inspired me
1:13:17 to join Anom school currently in body mechanics class.
1:13:19 Any tips?
1:13:20 Oo, that's cool.
1:13:21 Um, I really like the people that over atom school.
1:13:25 Let's see.
1:13:26 You inspired me to join school currently in body mechanics class.
1:13:28 Any tips?
1:13:29 Any tips for body mechanics?
1:13:31 lots.
1:13:31 I mean, sure, give me like a give me a more narrow part of the category.
1:13:37 Um, tips for body mechanics.
1:13:45 I mean, trying to give you something useful.
1:13:50 I would say just like off the cuff, one of the best things you can do,
1:13:58 two of the best things that you can
1:13:59 do if you're learning body mechanics right now.
1:14:02 One is to use a variety of body types in your animation.
1:14:10 I made the mistake as a student of just always using the same rig
1:14:13 over and over because I got comfortable with it and I was like, "Yeah,
1:14:15 it's just like the default like skinny twig character." And like
1:14:19 I never animated a heavy character and I never animated like
1:14:23 a light character and I ever I never animated different like physical
1:14:29 characters and so I never got to like practice that early on.
1:14:34 And I think that was a mistake.
1:14:36 You want you want some variety.
1:14:37 you want to be able because the thing is like if you have I think because
1:14:40 I knew if I stick with the one
1:14:42 like little skinny character that I was animating,
1:14:46 you know, he can like move quickly, he can move slowly,
1:14:50 and it's like ah he's there's not like really a right
1:14:53 or wrong answer to what he should or shouldn't be doing.
1:14:55 It's it's a little bit more subjective,
1:14:58 but like a big heavy character like there are some rules.
1:15:00 A big heavy character has to feel heavy.
1:15:03 And so I think I knew it would be a little bit harder.
1:15:06 Don't shy from the challenge.
1:15:07 Like take it on.
1:15:08 You should be doing that.
1:15:10 The other thing I would say is timing and timing and weight
1:15:13 are your most important things to work on and to learn.
1:15:18 And so any opportunity to if you get feedback on timing or weight,
1:15:23 really pay attention and really try to soak up what you're
1:15:25 being told because body mechanics is all about timing and weight.
1:15:30 And it's timing and weight per body part, not like the whole thing all at once.
1:15:35 That's probably another really useful tip.
1:15:43 Hi everyone.
1:15:43 I'm really excited to participate in this live.
1:15:44 What's the subject?
1:15:45 Just talking.
1:15:46 Just hanging out.
1:15:46 Mostly animation because that's what I cover most of the time on my channel.
1:15:49 But talk about anything.
1:15:53 Seven more professional animators.
1:15:58 Uh I have a question for you.
1:16:00 What character from the animation history would
1:16:02 you love to animate and under whose supervision?
1:16:04 Oo, interesting question.
1:16:05 What character from animation history would you
1:16:07 love to animate and under whose supervision?
1:16:11 I mean, there's characters that I really like love
1:16:14 to watch and like my brain goes there first.
1:16:19 Like the first character I thought of was Hades because I love Hades,
1:16:24 but that's a 2D animated movie and I'm not
1:16:26 a 2D animator and like I'm not that good at drawing.
1:16:29 So, like do would I really want to work
1:16:31 on Hades on a 2D movie under like probably not.
1:16:34 Um, but in the spirit of your question,
1:16:40 Hades is the first character that came to mind.
1:16:44 What character of animation history would
1:16:45 you love to animate under whose supervision?
1:16:48 Um, I don't think I have really a under whose supervision answer.
1:16:55 I mean, I like a couple like for sure
1:16:57 I've got I've got names flashing in my head,
1:16:58 but like just because they're people I haven't worked under
1:17:02 before that I I like and I respect their work
1:17:04 and I feel like it'd be like cool to like
1:17:06 hear from them and get their feedback and stuff.
1:17:08 Like James Baxter comes to mind is a strong
1:17:11 person floating around in my head right now.
1:17:14 But like I don't think I would
1:17:16 be picky about under whose supervision necessarily.
1:17:22 But what characters?
1:17:24 Trying to think of other characters.
1:17:25 Um yeah, I don't know.
1:17:31 I don't really think I have specific answers
1:17:33 to that because I I guess it's just you can get so much out of any character
1:17:42 with any supervisor provided that it's not like a weird,
1:17:45 you know, that it's like not a one of those cases where it doesn't go well.
1:17:48 But like I guess I don't know enough
1:17:52 about the behind the scenes and the production process
1:17:54 of so many of those movies to know which one would have been great to work on.
1:18:00 You know what?
1:18:01 You know what?
1:18:03 It's the same problem as Hades.
1:18:04 It's a 2D movie and I don't I don't have the skills, but it's like Iron Giant.
1:18:10 You know what?
1:18:11 That's what maybe that's what I would say.
1:18:13 I think it'd be really cool to work on a Brad Bird movie.
1:18:18 That's not him supervising, that's him directing, so it's not exactly the same,
1:18:21 but like I've heard only good things about working on a Brad movie.
1:18:27 So, I guess maybe that's my answer.
1:18:29 I don't know.
1:18:31 It's a good question.
1:18:35 Ah, yes.
1:18:36 Okay.
1:18:37 I was I did, but I was doing the same thing in my reference.
1:18:39 Oh.
1:18:40 Uh, then watch this.
1:18:42 Yeah.
1:18:42 Um, if you had So, we're talking about the twinning thing.
1:18:45 If if that was the problem, watch the subtext video and that should help.
1:18:53 Uh, hey brother, can you help me?
1:18:56 Sure.
1:18:56 Ask your question.
1:19:00 Maybe you asked it lower, but I'm just going to say this tip for everybody.
1:19:06 Never ask a question.
1:19:08 Like, never email somebody.
1:19:09 I'm not I'm not trying to shade you, but like never like email somebody and say,
1:19:13 "Hey, can I ask you a question?" That was a question.
1:19:16 You're already doing it.
1:19:17 So, just ask your question.
1:19:19 I can't tell you how many times It's going to sound a little bit mean,
1:19:22 but the thing is, I have a lot of emails coming in.
1:19:25 I have a lot of messages, DMs, and I have for years.
1:19:28 I cannot keep up with everything.
1:19:30 I have people who I work with actively who have
1:19:33 to pop into these live streams occasionally to be like,
1:19:35 "Hey." And I'm like, "Oh, shoot.
1:19:36 I I owe you a reply because I'm always behind on communication.
1:19:40 I'm just it's it's a lot and I I
1:19:42 don't have anybody helping me with it." And so, um,
1:19:48 the amount of times over the last seven,
1:19:51 eight years where I've gotten an email where like
1:19:54 I might get a pocket of of free time.
1:19:56 I'm like, "Oh, I've got like 20 minutes free to like just reply to emails
1:20:00 or whatever I want to do and like general miscellaneous work stuff, you know,
1:20:05 before I have to get into the next
1:20:06 actual thing I'm doing." And I remember there were
1:20:09 times when I like I'd open my email
1:20:11 and someone would have sent me some things like,
1:20:13 "Hey, like I'm an animation student.
1:20:15 I'm trying to learn some stuff blah blah
1:20:16 blah blah blah." And I was wondering like, "Can I ask you some questions?
1:20:21 Can you help me?" D.
1:20:22 And I'm like all about it.
1:20:24 I'm like, "Yeah, like I've got some free time right now.
1:20:27 What do you got?" But they never actually asked the question.
1:20:30 They provided some information to say, "Hi, I'm a big fan." Blah, blah, blah.
1:20:35 Can I ask you some questions?
1:20:39 If you had actually just asked your question right off the bat in that email,
1:20:43 I would have replied to it in the moment.
1:20:44 I would have been like I would have
1:20:45 actually maybe had the time in that, you know,
1:20:47 in those particular cases to jump in and just like answer it.
1:20:53 I was like ready to do it.
1:20:54 But the problem is I didn't know what the question was, so I can't answer it.
1:20:59 So I can't help you.
1:21:00 And the amount of times at first I think I used to say, "Sure,
1:21:04 what's your question?" But by the time they saw
1:21:06 my email and got back to me, I was busy again.
1:21:09 And then I never got back to it.
1:21:10 And then I always felt bad about that because it's like I asked like, "Oh, sure.
1:21:12 What's your question?" And then I just ghosted.
1:21:14 Never on purpose, but like that what?
1:21:17 So then after a certain point, I stopped doing that.
1:21:19 I stopped engaging with those emails because it
1:21:21 was like it was like I don't want to end up being the bad guy by like
1:21:25 giving you false hope and then taking it away.
1:21:28 I'm just not going to reply because you didn't ask your question.
1:21:32 And so I'm going to move on to other
1:21:33 emails where I actually know what I'm doing.
1:21:35 Um because otherwise it's a waste of time.
1:21:38 Anyway, I I learned that pretty early
1:21:41 on that like you should never message someone, can I ask you a question?
1:21:47 Just ask your question because that's the whole point of these things when
1:21:51 you've got like a live chat or whatever like yeah of course ask away.
1:21:56 So, I think you probably have answered, you know,
1:21:59 you probably have asked lower in the chat,
1:22:01 but throwing that out there for anyone who needs it.
1:22:13 Currently in class five of NH mentoring.
1:22:14 I hope to see you at light box.
1:22:15 Yeah, I will see you there then.
1:22:17 That's awesome.
1:22:19 Class five I struggled with.
1:22:21 I hope you're better in it than I did.
1:22:26 Yeah, I'm doing I'm doing uh live streams every Friday
1:22:29 this month just for fun because I I miss doing live streams.
1:22:33 I used to be on Twitch two or three
1:22:35 times a week for like for those who were there.
1:22:38 I mean there's a couple people who
1:22:39 were in those those uh those lives consistently.
1:22:43 I was live for what like 8 10 15 hours a day
1:22:46 sometimes because I was I was typically animating in those live streams.
1:22:50 Not always, but like most of the time
1:22:52 I was doing something animation related and like man,
1:22:56 I would live stream all the time.
1:22:58 I got burnt out eventually and so I stopped.
1:23:01 But I'm I do miss live streaming.
1:23:02 So I'm just I'm doing it for uh October.
1:23:05 Just every Friday in October until we get to Lightbox and I
1:23:08 don't think I can stream on the Friday that I'm there.
1:23:10 But it's fun.
1:23:14 So you know, if you're enjoying this, come back next week.
1:23:18 We'll do it again.
1:23:18 I'm not sure what time.
1:23:19 Hopefully a little earlier in the day.
1:23:21 We'll see.
1:23:23 I have to work on a kid song,
1:23:24 but I'm not sure how I should show the song with a single character.
1:23:27 Wait, I have to work on a kid song,
1:23:29 but I'm not sure how I should show the song with a single character.
1:23:34 Any advice will help.
1:23:38 I don't know if I understand exactly what you're doing.
1:23:42 So, you're animating like a person who's singing the kid
1:23:45 song or who's like dancing to it or something like that?
1:23:50 I'm assuming like the music's playing and you have
1:23:52 one character and you're you're kind of just like they're
1:23:54 making the music and so like you don't have
1:23:57 the full band that maybe would be what you would assume.
1:24:00 I don't know.
1:24:01 So I'm not entirely sure what the what the thing is.
1:24:08 Oh my god.
1:24:09 I'm sorry.
1:24:10 I just saw the fin I just saw the bottommost message in chat.
1:24:13 Uh I don't know if it's an uni.
1:24:18 Hello.
1:24:19 Yes, of course you can ask me your thing.
1:24:21 I just went on a whole rant.
1:24:23 I'm just jumping ahead for a second.
1:24:24 I just went on a whole rant that you should never say,
1:24:26 "Can I ask a question?" You should just ask your question.
1:24:29 But I'm glad to see that you are asking your question.
1:24:31 I'll come I'll read more in a second.
1:24:32 I'm I'm going in order.
1:24:33 So, I'll be right back.
1:24:35 Uh what was the question?
1:24:37 Somewhere kids song single character.
1:24:39 Um, I mean, if you are taking an entire like musical
1:24:45 performance and you have one character to like animate during that thing,
1:24:48 I guess take whatever the most prominent sounds
1:24:51 and like most important things that you're hearing,
1:24:54 like focus on that unless you're trying to I mean,
1:25:00 I don't know what the goal is.
1:25:01 I assume it's for like a project like that.
1:25:04 If you wanted to subvert the expectations, you could do the opposite.
1:25:07 You could say, "I hear drums and I hear a bass
1:25:10 guitar and I hear a piano and all this stuff." And then
1:25:13 for some reason every now and then there's like a ding
1:25:17 ding like I hear this little ding every now and then.
1:25:19 And like maybe you have someone who's just like standing there with like
1:25:21 a triangle ding and like all the other music's there and they're just like ding.
1:25:28 Like that's just all they do, you know?
1:25:30 So you could you could flip it and just do the opposite.
1:25:33 But I assume probably not what you're looking for.
1:25:42 Hey, what's up, dude?
1:25:44 Have you seen the new Dam Demon Slayer movie?
1:25:46 Insane mix of 2D and 3D animation.
1:25:48 Love the shirt.
1:25:50 Uh um I have not.
1:25:53 I've never watched Demon Slayer.
1:25:54 I know it's supposed to be really good,
1:25:56 and it's on my list of things to watch, but I have yet to watch it.
1:25:59 And so, no, I have not I have not seen it.
1:26:02 Um, I've heard the animation in it is wonderful.
1:26:06 You know that's funny about the shirt.
1:26:09 The shirt's cool because it's like I wear
1:26:10 it because it's very like blender coated, right?
1:26:13 Feels like it should be a blender shirt.
1:26:18 I feel like I shouldn't admit this, but like I wear it because it's comfortable.
1:26:22 I got it at a conference.
1:26:23 I wear it because it's I got it at GTC.
1:26:26 I wear the shirt cuz it's comfortable and I like open source
1:26:29 because I think that's clever and it makes me think of Blender.
1:26:31 But the shirt's actually from an AI company, like an open source AI company.
1:26:37 But that's on the back.
1:26:38 So that's okay.
1:26:39 We promote open source.
1:26:42 We don't necessarily need to talk about the rest.
1:26:45 It's just funny though.
1:26:49 Um, see, I'm jumping back up to see what I missed in order.
1:26:59 Uh, do you think that learning Maya still has meaning when
1:27:02 there are tools like Blender that are rapidly developing and are free?
1:27:06 Yes, Maya still has meaning for sure.
1:27:10 You don't have to learn Maya.
1:27:11 You can choose Blender and you will be fine for the like
1:27:15 I don't think there's any reason why you can't choose Blender.
1:27:19 I also think that you could choose Unreal at this point.
1:27:21 You can choose Maya, Blender, or Unreal.
1:27:25 And as long as you can animate, you're fine.
1:27:28 There might come a time where you have to learn one
1:27:30 of those tools you skipped depending on the studio you work at.
1:27:34 And the thing is, most studios and all proprietary software
1:27:41 based on industry software uses Maya as the comparison point.
1:27:47 Everybody makes like, "Oh, you're learning Unreal.
1:27:51 Great.
1:27:52 We'll help you go from Maya to Unreal." Like,
1:27:55 "Oh, but I'm starting in Blender." Like, "Oh, okay.
1:27:57 We don't know how to help you then.
1:27:58 Just here's just learn Unreal, right?" Like,
1:28:00 everyone is in for most at least for most of the stuff.
1:28:04 Like, the expectation is that you probably know Maya,
1:28:09 but even if you have to learn something else, we're going to compare it to Maya.
1:28:12 That's the only downside to learning something other than Maya.
1:28:14 But, you know, it's they're all 3D tools.
1:28:17 They all help each other to learn the things.
1:28:20 So, Maya is still the most robust like resourcerich tool.
1:28:27 There's the most rigs.
1:28:28 There's the most animation tools.
1:28:30 There's the most support.
1:28:31 There's the most tutorials specifically for animation topics.
1:28:35 There's the most people who know how to help you if you have a problem.
1:28:40 So Maya still has those benefits, but those may not last forever, you know?
1:28:45 So there's no reason why you have to choose Maya.
1:28:46 If you want to learn Blender, learn Blender.
1:28:49 There was a time where maybe it was like, well,
1:28:51 are you going to get a job if you're working in Blender?
1:28:52 Like at this point, there's a there's a ton of places using Blender.
1:28:56 And ultimately, it doesn't matter what software you use.
1:28:58 It's just can you animate if you're trying to be an animator.
1:29:01 And if you're not trying to be an animator, but you like animation,
1:29:03 but you want to be more of a generalist, then Blender is a great tool.
1:29:06 Blender is a much better tool if you're trying to be more versatile.
1:29:13 I was there at that time.
1:29:14 You inspired me to get an animation.
1:29:15 That's cool.
1:29:17 I've mostly been concentrating on 2D animation,
1:29:19 but seeing what DreamWorks and Glitch have put out have been
1:29:21 making me want to give 3D a try, at least a little.
1:29:24 Yeah.
1:29:25 Um, Glitch is doing some great work.
1:29:27 They're doing awesome.
1:29:29 And DreamWorks has been killing it as well.
1:29:31 Yeah.
1:29:33 Give it a shot.
1:29:34 You know, why not?
1:29:35 I think everybody should try the other thing.
1:29:37 If you do 2D, you should try 3D.
1:29:38 If you do 3D, you should try 2D.
1:29:40 You might not be good at it, but like it's it's fun and it's it's a nice break.
1:29:44 Like I literally, this was a while ago,
1:29:47 but like I I got I got the cheapest iPad possible.
1:29:51 I got like the iPad Air, which is a funny thing because like
1:29:55 I typically have to get really expensive computers
1:29:57 to do 3D animation at the level that I'm
1:29:59 like working with all these hardware tech stuff.
1:30:02 I never get to like get the cheap stuff.
1:30:04 I always have to get like the really expensive
1:30:06 laptop or the really expensive computer and the biggest
1:30:08 GPU and the fastest RAM and I typically
1:30:11 have to stick to pretty heavy duty hardware.
1:30:15 But uh when I was like I just want to draw in Procreate.
1:30:18 I just want to try like 2D animation and like Procreate Dreams and stuff.
1:30:22 I just got like iPad Air smallest one not
1:30:25 the mini but like you know it's right here.
1:30:29 It's like the lowest power thing I have and it's
1:30:32 so much fun just to like just to draw actually.
1:30:35 Oh no, I don't have it on here.
1:30:37 My wife has an iPad as well.
1:30:38 Hers is bigger and um more powerful than mine
1:30:42 cuz she actually uses it for work stuff sometimes,
1:30:45 but I just animated three different things for her this morning.
1:30:48 That's part of the reason I was late to start this live stream.
1:30:51 She's working on a video on her channel and she asked me, she's like, "Oh,
1:30:56 can you animate like a puddle splash and like
1:31:00 a raincloud with rain?" And then what was the other thing?
1:31:04 An umbrella.
1:31:06 And I animated some stuff and I did it in 2D,
1:31:08 which I'm not my skill set, but it's fun.
1:31:10 I really enjoy it.
1:31:11 So I I animated these elements for her to drop into her video.
1:31:16 And so I just did on the iPad and it's it's fun.
1:31:19 It's It's fun to do the other things.
1:31:22 It's fun to do the things you're bad at, too,
1:31:24 because you don't hold yourself to such a high standard,
1:31:26 so you won't be as much of a perfectionist about it.
1:31:29 At least for me, that's how I feel.
1:31:30 I struggle with that.
1:31:35 Uh, hey, I hope your Friday is going well.
1:31:38 Same.
1:31:40 I'm a fresher, so I can make Wait,
1:31:42 I am a fresher, so I can make a career in animation.
1:31:45 I think that's a question.
1:31:46 I'm a fresher.
1:31:47 Can I make a career in animation?
1:31:49 If you if you dedicate to yourself to it,
1:31:52 you'll have a you'll have as good a chance of any as anybody
1:31:58 at this point with the animation industry in such a rough shape.
1:32:00 That's my answer that if you dedicate yourself to learning animation
1:32:03 and getting good at it and really like learning the craft,
1:32:07 you'll have just as good a shot as anybody.
1:32:14 One of my favorite characters is the croc from Peter Pan.
1:32:16 I was looking forward to the crocodile in the Lurkins film.
1:32:19 Oh my god.
1:32:20 I know.
1:32:20 Lurkins was so cool.
1:32:22 Lurkins was so cool.
1:32:24 I'm I I think I get sad every time I think about it.
1:32:28 I loved what I was seeing from Larens.
1:32:30 Lurkins was, for those who don't know,
1:32:32 Larens was a movie at DreamWorks that was supposed
1:32:37 to come out before How to Train Your Dragon 3.
1:32:39 It was an Australian Outback buddy comedy adventure movie,
1:32:44 but it was also like an 80s rock ballad musical.
1:32:48 It was a bizarre movie, but it was really funny and it was really good.
1:32:54 Great animation, tons of characters, rigged, animated.
1:32:58 The movie was mostly done.
1:32:59 I think the movie was like over 70% animated.
1:33:02 And NBC, Comcast, Universal shelved it.
1:33:06 They said, "No, we just bought the studio.
1:33:07 that's not what we want to lead with.
1:33:09 But they didn't like postpone it.
1:33:10 They were just like me.
1:33:12 They canceled it.
1:33:15 Devastating for the studios morale.
1:33:17 And then the artists who were really doing a lot of the heavy
1:33:21 lifting on like the character and story side and animation and things like
1:33:25 that, they took those assets and they made a short film called Bilby
1:33:29 which played in front of How to Train Your Dragon 3 in theaters.
1:33:33 And you should watch it if you haven't seen it.
1:33:34 Billy is online somewhere for free.
1:33:35 I think you can watch it.
1:33:36 Very, very good.
1:33:37 really great short.
1:33:38 And then those artists who were directing Dolby have now
1:33:42 gone on to make the bad guys one and two.
1:33:48 They're wonderful.
1:33:49 They've done a great job.
1:33:52 Uh other than teaching and sponsorships, what are Wait, hold on.
1:33:56 Other than teaching and sponsorships, what are your other im income sources?
1:34:01 Love to know your approach in these challenging times.
1:34:05 Well, let's see.
1:34:07 I'm actually going to be going deep into this topic at lightbox
1:34:10 in case anyone is like if anybody heard by the way if anybody
1:34:13 heard that question was like he's talking about how he makes money
1:34:16 on the internet I want to know the answer to that if you want
1:34:19 to know like an hour's worth of me talking about it and you're
1:34:22 going to lightbox I have a whole talk called what is it called
1:34:27 it's called the art of going solo creating opportunities as artists and it's
1:34:32 literally a talk about that it is a full talk about that topic.
1:34:38 But to answer your question,
1:34:40 teaching sponsorships are probably my two biggest pieces of the pie.
1:34:45 Have like a pie chart.
1:34:47 Um, I make some money from YouTube ads,
1:34:51 like just like making YouTube videos, but it's not very much.
1:34:54 Like, you'd be shocked at how how little it actually is.
1:34:58 Um, uh, let's see.
1:35:03 There's certain things that used to make more money that don't really anymore.
1:35:06 Like affiliate links, like if if if everyone here was like, "Hey,
1:35:12 what mouse do you use?" And I was like,
1:35:13 "Oh, I use this Logitech G502 Lightseed from most stuff,
1:35:19 but when my wrist starts to hurt and I remember
1:35:21 that I shouldn't be using this gaming mouse for working,
1:35:24 I recently picked up the Keyron M5 vertical mouse.
1:35:31 These are the two mice I use.
1:35:33 And if I were smart, if anyone wants the link, by the way, I'll find it for you.
1:35:37 But like if I were smart, I would put a link.
1:35:40 I would put like a an affiliate link basically
1:35:43 that if you wanted to go buy that mouse,
1:35:45 you could go you'd click the link and you'd go buy it
1:35:47 and you'd buy for the regular price that you'd find it for.
1:35:49 If it's on sale, great.
1:35:50 If it's not, it's not.
1:35:52 But then I would get a commission of the sale.
1:35:54 It'd cost you no extra money, but I would get a kickback from Amazon
1:36:00 or whoever I sent you to, whatever, you know, platform.
1:36:05 At this point, I would be trying not to send
1:36:06 you Amazon links because I'm trying not to shop at Amazon,
1:36:08 which I've been doing a very good job with not shopping at Amazon because,
1:36:11 uh, billionaires don't need our money.
1:36:15 They're already holding it all anyway.
1:36:17 So, anyway, uh, I would I would do affiliate links.
1:36:22 that used to make a pretty not significant.
1:36:25 It wasn't like a lot, but it was, you know,
1:36:26 a couple hundred bucks a month of affiliate revenue
1:36:30 and then Amazon slashed all their rates and cut
1:36:32 the percentages that we were making off things like
1:36:34 tech and so now it's not very much at all.
1:36:36 And also, I don't promote products all that often.
1:36:38 I really should do it more.
1:36:40 I think a lot of times people are actually wondering like what I use and what
1:36:43 they should buy and I should be recommending
1:36:45 that providing that information because I have recommendations.
1:36:48 I have opinions of what's good and what's bad and why.
1:36:50 Anyway, affiliate thing is a thing, but it's not something I do very much.
1:36:55 What else do I do?
1:36:56 Uh, I do have some contract work that I do.
1:36:58 It's not exactly freelance, and it's not a job,
1:37:00 but like I do projects pretty frequently.
1:37:05 Um, consulting, things like that.
1:37:09 Um, what else do I do?
1:37:14 I don't know, I feel like I'm always doing a bunch of stuff,
1:37:16 but I can't actually in this moment remember what
1:37:19 other things are on my pie chart of income sources.
1:37:23 So, that's what I've got at the moment.
1:37:25 Guess check out my talk at Lightbox if you want more details because I'm
1:37:28 actually going to show different pie charts of like where I earned how much,
1:37:32 not how I'm not only going to share the actual numbers,
1:37:34 but I'm going to basically say here's the pie chart of my income from this year,
1:37:37 this year, this year, this year,
1:37:38 and here's how it's changed and grown and whatever.
1:37:40 I show all that stuff in my presentation.
1:37:42 So, if you're curious, I'll do that on light box.
1:37:49 Sorry.
1:37:50 And if you've been asking questions and I haven't gotten your questions,
1:37:52 I'm just really behind.
1:37:53 I'm working my way down.
1:37:54 I am I'm on my way.
1:37:55 So, let's see.
1:37:58 H off topic.
1:38:01 There's a message in staff chat in Discord for you.
1:38:04 There is.
1:38:05 That's something about the voice chat stuff.
1:38:08 I'm so disinterested.
1:38:10 I'm I'm so disinterested in Discord right now.
1:38:14 I feel like I need to change it again.
1:38:16 I'm unhappy with Discord.
1:38:18 Feel like I need to wipe it clean again
1:38:20 and redo it and it's not worth the time right now.
1:38:24 Um I think my permissions are messed up right now.
1:38:27 I can look at that.
1:38:28 Let's see.
1:38:29 I also used you in a school discussion
1:38:30 post as a helpful person in the animation industry.
1:38:33 I hope I got some traffic to your channel.
1:38:34 Oh, that's very nice of you.
1:38:35 Thank you.
1:38:36 I appreciate that.
1:38:38 Even if like one person took your advice
1:38:40 and went and found my videos and was like, "Wow,
1:38:42 this is great." Then you did that person a if if they think it was a good thing,
1:38:48 then you did them a very nice service
1:38:49 and I appreciate you bringing them to my channel.
1:38:54 Um, what was the most surprising difference between working on your own
1:38:58 projects in Animation Mentor and working in a studio like DreamWorks?
1:39:02 Most surprising difference between working on your own
1:39:03 projects and working in a studio environment?
1:39:06 Um, huh.
1:39:11 I mean, like I would probably say the most surprising difference,
1:39:21 the most surprising difference is that I just
1:39:22 didn't know what I was doing as a student.
1:39:24 And then when you have a supervisor who's able to like guide you
1:39:30 properly and like hey like go this direction you know what it is you
1:39:36 know what it is it's not you know I take it back it's
1:39:39 not a matter of the supervisor because that almost makes it sound like I'm
1:39:42 dissing the the teacher because what I'm not trying to say is that like
1:39:47 oh having like a like oh having a supervisor at a company is
1:39:51 so much better because they know how to it's not That's not that when
1:39:56 you're in a when you're working on a project in a school environment,
1:40:00 you don't take it that seriously.
1:40:02 At least I didn't.
1:40:03 And I think that's one of it's a very common issue.
1:40:05 When you're working on a school project, you treat it like school.
1:40:10 One of the biggest things I see that I remember I used to do and was one
1:40:13 of the biggest things I see and it it's
1:40:15 terrible habit is say I'm working on a shot.
1:40:22 Say I'm a student and I'm working on a shot, right?
1:40:25 And I'm responsible for blocking out a shot.
1:40:28 That's what I need to be working on.
1:40:29 I need to block out the shot,
1:40:30 get it to a certain point, submit it for feedback, whatever.
1:40:35 Number I mean, there's several things.
1:40:36 Number one, probably I'm waiting till the last minute.
1:40:40 I'm not making progress throughout the week.
1:40:41 I'm waiting until the last like two days and then I'm
1:40:44 like powering through it all the very end, I'm so fast.
1:40:47 I finished it all at the very end.
1:40:49 It's not as good as it could have been because I didn't have time to work on it.
1:40:52 Step away, come back with fresh eyes,
1:40:54 repeat the process a couple of times, plan.
1:40:56 Like, I didn't do that in this hypothetical.
1:40:59 And so, you know, I blitz through it.
1:41:04 I can see there's problems with it.
1:41:06 I know there's things that are wrong with it.
1:41:08 I probably could have even taken like if I had started days earlier
1:41:11 with that energy like I probably could have actually gotten it to like
1:41:16 the best I think it could be and gotten a bunch more poses
1:41:19 in there but like ah I got it good enough and just submit.
1:41:23 And the thing is I can see a lot of the problems with it.
1:41:25 I know that's not working.
1:41:25 I know I haven't fixed that.
1:41:26 I haven't even touched that yet.
1:41:28 And so then I get feedback that's like, "Oh, that's not working.
1:41:31 That's not looking very good.
1:41:32 And that doesn't look like you've touched it yet." And it's like,
1:41:34 "Yeah, I know that feedback.
1:41:35 I already know that stuff." then why'd you submit it like that?
1:41:39 Like that's the whole point is you're supposed to bring it
1:41:42 to the best of your ability and then get feedback from there.
1:41:45 But half the time people are like, I already kind of knew that feedback.
1:41:48 Like then you should have done something differently
1:41:51 to have done more so that is not
1:41:53 a problem so that you actually were able to fix the things that you can see.
1:41:56 The whole point is for you to be able to like go until
1:41:57 you can't see anything else and then someone will show you what you're missing.
1:42:00 Anyways, that's the first thing.
1:42:02 But beyond that, then you get a bunch of feedback
1:42:06 and you're given a bunch of things like, "Oh, fix this.
1:42:08 Fix this.
1:42:08 Change this.
1:42:09 This isn't really working.
1:42:10 Maybe do this instead." And you basically have a checklist, right?
1:42:14 Let's say you got 15 notes that you need to address.
1:42:17 And I've seen this so many times.
1:42:19 And I used to do this and it drives me
1:42:21 crazy to think about the fact that I would say,
1:42:24 "All right, time for the next week.
1:42:26 Time to work on the assignment some more."
1:42:27 and I'd pull the shot back in and I'd look
1:42:30 at my list of 15 fixes and notes and I
1:42:33 would go through and I'd hit those 15 notes,
1:42:36 you know, and I'd be like, "All right, I did it.
1:42:39 Now I submit it back for feedback." No, that's where you begin.
1:42:46 That's like, yeah, you address the feedback and now you have to keep working.
1:42:50 Like that's you just fixing what's wrong from last week.
1:42:52 Now you have to actually continue working on the shot, right?
1:42:56 You got to keep animating.
1:42:57 You got to get closer to done.
1:42:58 They're not going to tell you every little thing you need to do
1:43:01 and hold your hand and like guide you of like, "Okay, now do this.
1:43:04 Okay, I did it.
1:43:04 Now what?
1:43:05 Now do this.
1:43:06 Okay, now what?
1:43:06 Now do this." No, they're just going to tell you what's broken.
1:43:10 Then you fix it and then you keep going and you
1:43:13 take it to the best that you can make it.
1:43:15 And then you show it and they go,
1:43:16 "Here's what you're not seeing." Oh yeah, no, that makes so much sense.
1:43:21 Or I don't know what you mean.
1:43:22 Can you explain that?
1:43:23 Actually, I'm not sure I understand what that is or why, right?
1:43:27 Like, you don't have to get it.
1:43:29 You can ask questions,
1:43:29 but like you have to take it as far as you can take it and then get the feedback
1:43:32 and that's where the feedback is useful and then
1:43:35 you address the feedback and then you keep going.
1:43:39 And I think that's the biggest difference in a school environment is that you
1:43:42 can do that kind of nonsense versus in a studio environment, you're like,
1:43:48 "This needs to get done." like this has
1:43:49 an actual deadline and like pressure and like
1:43:54 I need help and so you you go and you get feedback and you get told
1:43:57 stuff and then you you get different kinds
1:44:00 of feedback where it's not about fixing issues
1:44:02 because once you're like working it's not that you
1:44:04 like your body mechanics don't suck anymore, right?
1:44:08 Your stuff isn't broken, it's just not the right direction or whatever things.
1:44:13 I mean sometimes it's broken but it's not the same.
1:44:15 It's not like hey you don't understand weight yet.
1:44:18 It's like this doesn't show the weight that it needs to show.
1:44:22 Here's where you go.
1:44:23 Ah, you're right.
1:44:27 And so in a studio environment, it's a different kind of note.
1:44:31 It's a different kind of feedback.
1:44:32 And it's a more I mean,
1:44:34 it's a more helpful feedback in that like when you're a student,
1:44:38 you don't know how to animate properly.
1:44:40 And so it's a lot of like technical stuff
1:44:42 and you're like trying to overcome working in the software.
1:44:46 and a lot of your notes are basically, hey,
1:44:48 you're you're not doing it, you're not doing it right.
1:44:53 Where in a studio environment, it's you're doing what you're doing,
1:44:56 but you need to do something different.
1:44:58 So, the notes are entirely different like category of notes and it's way more
1:45:02 interesting and it can be harder because like now you're invested in an idea,
1:45:09 but the idea is wrong and that's much harder to like change.
1:45:14 It's like when you get a a an in school, the worst kind of notes are,
1:45:20 "Hey, you did something, but that's not what you should do.
1:45:22 You should do something else." It's like, "Oh,
1:45:24 the thing that sucks about that isn't necessarily the idea." It's
1:45:26 the thing that sucks about that is I have to delete key frames.
1:45:29 Oh, I got to redo work.
1:45:31 It's going to take time.
1:45:32 It's like, "Ugh, I thought it was working." Like,
1:45:34 that's typically where people are frustrated is because it's the time loss.
1:45:38 Where in a studio environment, it's because you invested time in an idea.
1:45:41 It's not about the time as much as it is
1:45:42 about like your emotional attachment to what you were doing.
1:45:46 And that's that thing where you like to leave
1:45:47 the ego at the door and just it's for the shot.
1:45:49 Like anyway, anyway, hopefully that's helpful in some way,
1:45:53 but that's that's my that's my thing that I found
1:45:56 surprising a difference between the two that I didn't really foresee.
1:46:01 I'm so behind in chat.
1:46:03 How do you get a character designing job on Fiverr or Upwork?
1:46:06 I could not tell you.
1:46:07 I don't do either of those things.
1:46:09 I don't do character designing stuff.
1:46:10 I guess you know what?
1:46:11 I I take it back.
1:46:12 I can answer that question.
1:46:14 If the question is, how do you get a job designing?
1:46:17 Wait, how do you get a character designing job on Fiverr or at work Upwork?
1:46:21 The answer is design characters and put your work on your portfolio.
1:46:28 If you're not getting hired,
1:46:30 it's because the what people are seeing isn't convincing
1:46:34 them that they should work with you over somebody else.
1:46:37 And so the answer is keep working on it.
1:46:39 Keep going.
1:46:40 Keep doing it on your own.
1:46:42 Do the work for yourself that you would like to do
1:46:44 for other people and then share that work on your portfolio.
1:46:48 And once you get to a point where people will start to say,
1:46:51 "Oh, I really I like your stuff.
1:46:53 I'd like you to do that for me." That means that you're
1:46:56 finally showing the stuff at like the level it needs to be.
1:46:59 Everybody, as you're learning, everyone's constantly trying to get a job
1:47:04 while they're learning before you're ready.
1:47:07 And so it's like, how do I get a job?
1:47:09 You have to do the work first to prove that you can do the job,
1:47:13 then you get the job.
1:47:14 You don't get given the job because you want it.
1:47:16 You have to prove that you can do it, which is never fun.
1:47:20 No one ever wants that.
1:47:20 Like I remember being a student and applying for internships
1:47:23 and jobs before I knew how to animate anything.
1:47:25 And I was like, "Oh, I'll learn on the job." like I think I'd be a great intern.
1:47:30 Yeah, but what proof do they have that I can do a single thing?
1:47:34 So, like you have to do the job you want to be doing and show
1:47:38 and prove that you can do that job before they'll hire you for that job.
1:47:46 Let's see.
1:47:52 Besides animation, what's your favorite part of the pipeline and why?
1:47:55 Easy effects.
1:47:57 I love effects.
1:47:58 If I could be an effects artist for some amount of time, I would do it.
1:48:02 I'm learning Houdini.
1:48:02 I'm trying.
1:48:04 Got any tips to avoid rotoscoping a reference?
1:48:07 I'm going to animate using reference for the first time,
1:48:09 but I'm afraid that if I try to get every detail,
1:48:10 I might just end up rotoscoping.
1:48:11 You might.
1:48:12 The big things you should be doing, there's two things you should be doing.
1:48:16 You should push poses and timing as you go.
1:48:25 But in two different ways.
1:48:26 Push your poses as you go.
1:48:28 When you see someone like lift their arm
1:48:30 and then go like this, lift the arm higher.
1:48:34 Swing even more.
1:48:35 Like add some arc to it.
1:48:36 Like spice up what you see using the animation principles as you're working.
1:48:42 That's how you push the poses as you go.
1:48:44 And then for timing, you can either try to push it like as you're going,
1:48:47 but realistically what I would recommend is try
1:48:50 to rettime the reference before you start animating.
1:48:53 Right?
1:48:53 It's like if you've got a reference and you're looking at like, "Yep,
1:48:56 this is whatever." You can speed up and slow down portions of the reference
1:49:01 to like time warp it and change
1:49:02 the way the reference feels and speed and whatever.
1:49:05 And you have to kind of keep in mind what you're changing because
1:49:07 you're going to kind of break how the weight is meant to feel.
1:49:11 And you got to kind of remember like,
1:49:13 okay, well, what was happening in the original thing?
1:49:14 Like there was a bunch of frames of like this this drag that happened because it
1:49:19 was heavy and I went and now it's like really fast and so it feels really light.
1:49:23 Like okay, I want it to still feel heavy but I want it really fast.
1:49:26 You've got to remember like in the reference when you're in and that when
1:49:29 you're analyzing the reference you have to sort
1:49:31 of recognize oh I need this certain like behavior this relationship between like
1:49:36 the hand and the elbow and the shoulder
1:49:38 and the chest where it's like the character is going to swing a bat.
1:49:41 It's not that they like swing their arm first.
1:49:45 That feels really weird.
1:49:46 It feels like the bat's not weighing anything.
1:49:48 It's not that they move their arm and their body together.
1:49:52 Like that feels really stiff.
1:49:55 what it is.
1:49:55 Based on the reference, I'm noticing that they pull their chest
1:49:59 and their head and they pull their whole body,
1:50:02 but the arm doesn't really come that far
1:50:04 because it's got all this weight and it's got
1:50:05 this inertia and it has to like build up
1:50:07 speed and then it snaps ahead and then it's bam, it feels so powerful, right?
1:50:13 You have to analyze that from your reference
1:50:15 and like figure out the timing per body
1:50:18 part of like what's going on in this motion that makes it feel the certain way.
1:50:23 But then you can change the timing and change
1:50:25 the amount of frames that it takes to do these actions,
1:50:26 but you still have to keep that spirit in there.
1:50:29 And you can literally just animate the reference by just retiming
1:50:32 the reference so that you get that energy and you address that.
1:50:36 And then when you're using that for animation,
1:50:39 you have already started to push your timing.
1:50:41 And then you can continue to do that in Maya or whatever tool.
1:50:44 But you push your poses as you go and you tweak your timing
1:50:47 to make it more entertaining and more true to what you're trying to convey.
1:50:53 And that's going to help it not feel
1:50:55 like rotoscope because if you don't do those things,
1:50:57 it will feel like you're rotocoping.
1:51:00 I had that experience.
1:51:04 Thank you so much.
1:51:04 You're great.
1:51:06 Thank you.
1:51:08 Um, and that's stuff I I cover in my classes.
1:51:13 So, like try it.
1:51:14 Do your thing.
1:51:15 Maybe I've got some videos that'll hopefully help.
1:51:17 I've got some different videos on analyzing
1:51:18 reference that hopefully will be beneficial for that.
1:51:20 But if like if that's a thing that you're
1:51:24 like struggling with, then I have some classes for that.
1:51:28 But I've also got free videos that cover some of it too,
1:51:34 you know, learning the first.
1:51:35 By the way, uh just a quick call out
1:51:37 since I'm like on a roll right now with questions.
1:51:39 Just a quick call out that if anybody check the check the link
1:51:42 the pinned pinned link in the description pinned link over here somewhere.
1:51:47 Um, if you're going to Lightbox, I have a booth.
1:51:51 I'm going I'm doing some talks.
1:51:52 I have some other stuff going on.
1:51:54 Fill out the form.
1:51:55 Suggest some ideas, things you'd like to see.
1:51:57 And if you are interested in my classes,
1:51:58 if I'm giving good tips and you're like,
1:52:00 "Wow, this guy is he's on to something, you know,
1:52:04 fill out the class form so you can see what kind of classes are
1:52:06 coming and you can vote on the ones you want to see." I've got announcements.
1:52:10 So, forms, forum, forms, lots of forms.
1:52:13 And then two other quick things and I'm going to keep answering questions.
1:52:16 If you're going to Lightbox,
1:52:17 I will be looking for animators to give reviews to other animators.
1:52:21 So, if you're like, I would like a review.
1:52:23 I don't want to give reviews.
1:52:25 We'll get that handled.
1:52:26 But if you're like, no, I want to give reviews.
1:52:27 I want to be a reviewer.
1:52:29 I'm looking for people like that.
1:52:31 And I'm going to make a form later and I'm going to post on Instagram and stuff,
1:52:34 but feel free to like DM me on Instagram
1:52:36 or LinkedIn or Discord or send me an email.
1:52:39 And then the other thing was, ah, I'm looking I'm going to be looking
1:52:44 for some volunteers to help me with my booth.
1:52:47 And um, not constantly, not the whole weekend at Lightbox,
1:52:51 but if you're going to be at Lightbox or you're
1:52:53 in the LA area and you want to go to Lightbox
1:52:56 and you don't mind having some pockets of time here
1:52:58 and there where you're helping me with at my booth,
1:53:00 the exchanges, I'll give you a ticket for the weekend, but I need some help.
1:53:05 And so that's something I'll make a form so you can apply to that.
1:53:07 But, you know, again, you can submit your interest and then I'll
1:53:10 send you the form when I make it like, "Hey, fill this out." I got to like
1:53:14 basically kind of like interview people through the form.
1:53:17 So, anyway, that's some stuff not to forget while I'm answering questions.
1:53:22 Um, I guess you could also just fill out the light box form and then
1:53:29 just tell me those things in the uh in the notes in the bottom.
1:53:32 There's like a any other things you want to share you could just say like,
1:53:34 "Oo, I want to maybe help with those things.
1:53:37 Let me know.
1:53:42 You know, learning the first Wait, you know,
1:53:44 learning the first 3D software is like picking
1:53:46 a lunch too hard and you want everything.
1:53:50 Yeah, feels like that.
1:53:53 Job security and animation career.
1:53:54 How to plan solid career as 3D animator?
1:53:57 I don't think that's something that anybody can really plan right now.
1:54:00 Honestly, the job security,
1:54:02 the job market in animation is super rough right now.
1:54:07 I don't think there's a way that you can like plan your career stuff.
1:54:11 The best thing you can do is just have a really you
1:54:14 either have to kind of animation is a very specialized skill set.
1:54:19 You have to really focus on animation to get great at it.
1:54:21 So there is a certain amount of specialization that happens in animation.
1:54:24 But I also think it's very valuable
1:54:27 to be versatile and to learn different tools,
1:54:29 different workflows, different departments.
1:54:32 If you can learn rigging or if you can learn story,
1:54:34 if like if you have other things that you can do, if something goes up,
1:54:40 if something goes down in in the area where your job lives,
1:54:43 your security isn't necessarily that you can stay in that role.
1:54:47 It might be that you can pivot to a different role or that you're able
1:54:49 to jump to a different studio that has
1:54:51 another opportunity that's kind of similar to yours,
1:54:52 but it's different, but you have a skill set that allows you to say,
1:54:55 "All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna still have
1:54:57 a job." that is um valuable right now.
1:55:06 So just be open to many opportunities and learn from everything you do.
1:55:11 I'm currently studying at animation mentor as well.
1:55:14 Do you have any advice for us in school to be
1:55:15 hirable or industry ready by the time we finish these programs?
1:55:18 Honestly, the best thing I can Well, not the best thing I can tell you.
1:55:22 One of the best things I can tell you I'll tell you two things.
1:55:30 One of the things you can do, this is not the big thing I was going to tell you,
1:55:32 but one of the things you can do, go place like show up.
1:55:37 Show up is the advice.
1:55:39 I put it in quotes because it's something I was told.
1:55:41 Like, show up.
1:55:42 And that means go to the events.
1:55:45 Like, be present when you can.
1:55:49 Like, it's it's show up for yourself when you need yourself.
1:55:52 It's show up for, you know, when you're when you're given an opportunity.
1:55:56 show up for the opportunity.
1:55:58 When there's an event, a networking opportunity, go be there, bring your work,
1:56:03 get feedback, you know, that is worth doing like the networking side of things.
1:56:09 And I have a video if you if
1:56:10 you hear networking and you're like, networking, gross.
1:56:15 There's a video on my channel called the biggest lie in animation.
1:56:19 I think it's called the biggest lie in animation.
1:56:22 Um, and the thumbnail, I think, is me like this.
1:56:26 and there's like an X and it says the it's who you know or something.
1:56:31 Um, watch that video if you feel like networking is icky.
1:56:36 Watch that video and I will explain in that video what networking actually
1:56:39 is and how you're supposed to do it and how it actually works.
1:56:42 Especially if you're going to lightbox,
1:56:44 watch that before going to Lightbox and it will help prep you.
1:56:48 But the other answer advice to be hireable or industry ready by the time
1:56:55 we finish the programs recognize the program will not do it for you.
1:57:03 Going to animation mentor is not going to make you industry ready.
1:57:08 It is up to you whether you are industry ready.
1:57:11 Now it's not like it's just a choice and like
1:57:13 you you'll just if you choose it you'll be ready, right?
1:57:16 like you have to actually do the work and there's a lot of factors there.
1:57:18 It's not quite so simple, of course,
1:57:20 but you can't expect to go through one of those programs and then just
1:57:24 come out the other side and be just like be you spit out and like,
1:57:27 all right, you finished.
1:57:28 You should get a job now.
1:57:30 No, that is one of the biggest like misconceptions about animation
1:57:36 school and one of the things that I did not understand about
1:57:38 animation mentor when I went there and it's one of the things
1:57:40 that I learned after I was at DreamWorks for a while.
1:57:44 I realized animation mentor and other schools like it, right?
1:57:49 As much as it seems like when you sign up like I'm going
1:57:51 to go to the school and I'm going to leave ready for a job.
1:57:55 No, you're going to leave with an understanding of what
1:58:00 you need to do so that you can get a job.
1:58:03 You're going to leave with an understanding of what comes next for you
1:58:09 to do on your own so that you can get hired somewhere.
1:58:13 Now, some people are able to do it at the same time.
1:58:16 They're able to go through the program realizing what
1:58:19 they need to be doing and they're able to do
1:58:21 it as they go because they're working really hard
1:58:22 and they're cranking through it and they're like they're also good.
1:58:27 Um, like there were animators in my class who
1:58:29 were working way harder than me who were actively taking
1:58:32 the lessons and like animating really cool stuff and you
1:58:37 know they were spending way more time than I was.
1:58:38 They weren't procra procrastinating.
1:58:40 Like I was a really bad student.
1:58:43 I was pretty young when I when I went through animation mentor,
1:58:45 but I was a really bad student when I did it.
1:58:47 And I didn't really realize that I was.
1:58:49 I just thought like other people in my classes like, "Wow,
1:58:51 they're really good." And they were, but I was also really bad.
1:58:54 It was both.
1:58:55 They were really good and I was really bad.
1:58:56 I wasn't neutral like I thought I was.
1:58:58 I was bad.
1:58:59 And so I left Animation Mentor thinking that having finished
1:59:03 the school was going to be the thing that got me ready.
1:59:04 And like no, I was able to leave
1:59:08 with the understanding of like I know what I need
1:59:12 to do for my demo reel to like be
1:59:14 good cuz right now it's not like that shot's bad.
1:59:16 That shot has issues.
1:59:17 These are the notes.
1:59:18 These are the notes.
1:59:18 These are the notes.
1:59:19 These are the notes for all these different shots.
1:59:21 Like I knew what needed to be done.
1:59:23 But rather than doing that, I was like, I'll just apply with what I've got.
1:59:27 I'm sure it'll be fine.
1:59:28 I should be ready.
1:59:29 And I wasn't getting internships.
1:59:32 Like this was happening throughout school.
1:59:33 like I was never getting any offers.
1:59:34 I was like, why am I not getting offers?
1:59:36 Like I'm learning all this stuff because I wasn't applying it.
1:59:38 And so there's a huge distinction in like what you need to do to be hireable.
1:59:46 And it's not just going to the program.
1:59:49 It's going to the program, absorbing the stuff,
1:59:51 and then applying it on a brand new demo reel that has nothing
1:59:54 to do with the assignments and the things you were given in school.
1:59:57 Like those are practice.
1:59:58 Those are for you to like get it and then
2:00:00 you take that and then you use it for something else.
2:00:03 Some people are able to do both because their shots are really good,
2:00:07 but that's not the norm.
2:00:09 And so that's the big advice that I would say is like especially at school
2:00:12 like animation mentor that um you know it's not the school that gets you ready,
2:00:18 it's you which is empowering but also disappointing.
2:00:25 But if you don't know that, you will expect too
2:00:28 much and then you'll be disappointed and then you'll be
2:00:30 frustrated when you can't get a job and you won't
2:00:33 understand that there is something you can be doing about it.
2:00:36 It's not just apply, apply, apply.
2:00:38 It's keep working, keep applying, but also keep working.
2:00:45 Do professional animators like yourself rely on reference for every shot?
2:00:48 Basically, can professional animate animate with zero?
2:00:50 Can professional animators animate with zero reference?
2:00:53 Totally.
2:00:53 It depends on the artist.
2:00:54 Some people struggle more than others.
2:00:58 Some people are really good at it.
2:00:59 It's It depends on like what you understand about the motion for one thing.
2:01:03 Like like on one hand, really cartoony stuff, you might not have a way to do
2:01:10 reference for something like super zany and crazy.
2:01:13 And that's just like a creativity thing.
2:01:16 And so, uh, you know, different people are going to be better or worse at that.
2:01:21 And then um some stuff is like it has
2:01:29 to be based in reality and so you must use reference
2:01:33 or you have to really understand the mechanics of of whatever
2:01:37 you're animating to where you've like memorized the mechanics.
2:01:40 Like I'm I was always really good at parkour shots
2:01:43 and like the physicality animation stuff because I did parkour.
2:01:47 I really understood what it was to do these actions, what it felt like,
2:01:51 what it looked like,
2:01:52 what was physically happening and like what you needed to do,
2:01:55 what muscles you needed to like roll across this right shoulder
2:01:58 from like this particular muscle across diagonal to the left hip.
2:02:02 Like I knew all these technical details of how to move and do it in real life.
2:02:07 So posing a character to do it was easy.
2:02:10 Um, I knew what needed to happen.
2:02:12 And so my parkour shots were really good
2:02:13 even though most of my animation was really bad.
2:02:17 And so I used reference,
2:02:19 but I didn't need reference as much as other people would have needed it.
2:02:22 Even, you know, where other people could have looked
2:02:25 at the reference and gotten the reference wrong and been like, "Oh,
2:02:28 that's what it kind of seems like." I was able to go,
2:02:30 I must be looking at the reference wrong because I know it's not that.
2:02:33 And I'd kind of tweak and be like, "That must be it.
2:02:35 It must be like the angle and the perspective of the way I shot it.
2:02:38 I can't really see this in the reference.
2:02:41 I'm stuck." No, I know what to do because I understand it, right?
2:02:44 So it's it depends on the people.
2:02:47 So the answer is yes.
2:02:48 You you totally can animate without reference especially when it's
2:02:51 like cartoony stuff or stuff you understand really really well 100%.
2:02:55 You don't need reference.
2:02:57 You are the animator.
2:02:58 But you do need to study the stuff so that you know it or at least it has
2:03:04 to be so crazy that like it's left only
2:03:05 to your imagination though a reference wouldn't have helped you anyway.
2:03:09 So yeah.
2:03:11 How to constrain a bat in Maya?
2:03:14 Um, there are two main options.
2:03:16 There's constraints, parent constraints,
2:03:18 and then there is uh anot which is a script that's a tool in Maya that's great.
2:03:25 It's uh it's not free, but it's well worth it.
2:03:27 It's not all that expensive.
2:03:30 I cover both in extreme detail in my technical animation class.
2:03:34 If you want to follow the link in the description to my courses,
2:03:37 I have a an inexpensive technical animation class,
2:03:42 inexpensive by the standards of online classes.
2:03:44 It's a it's meant to be affordable.
2:03:46 Um, but that goes through constraints like perfectly.
2:03:49 I cover everything.
2:03:51 But if you are looking for the free answer,
2:03:53 I do have videos on the topic on my channel.
2:03:56 Um, I think there's two different constraints videos that you'll have to watch.
2:04:01 Did I post the new one or not yet?
2:04:06 One second.
2:04:07 I filmed a new constraint video.
2:04:11 I don't think I posted it yet.
2:04:13 No, I haven't posted it yet.
2:04:15 Dang it.
2:04:15 I haven't edited, I guess.
2:04:17 Um, yeah, I have some videos on the topic though,
2:04:21 so you can watch those if you want to go deeper.
2:04:23 Check out my class.
2:04:24 But, um, parent constraints are what you're looking for.
2:04:27 And Anabot has an X form relationship tool that bypasses constraints.
2:04:31 It's really handy.
2:04:36 Uh, will your lightbox talk be recorded?
2:04:38 Would love to see it, but can't make the light box this year.
2:04:40 Oh man, my Unreal Engine class I think will be recorded,
2:04:45 but my going solo talk I've asked them
2:04:49 not to record because I'm going to be sharing
2:04:53 like a light amount of like financial information
2:04:55 of like what I do and how I do it.
2:04:57 And I want to be able to answer all the questions that people ask me.
2:05:00 And if someone asked me a really specific question,
2:05:01 I want to be able to give an honest answer.
2:05:03 I I don't want that stuff on YouTube if I don't control the video.
2:05:07 I'm just not comfortable with it.
2:05:08 So that one will not be recorded.
2:05:15 Uh who do you follow for business insight?
2:05:18 Nobody.
2:05:20 Uh nobody.
2:05:21 And that's not a flex.
2:05:23 I think in some cases it shows.
2:05:25 I am naturally good at a lot of business stuff.
2:05:28 It's something I really actually enjoy and I am very good at.
2:05:32 But for sure there's stuff that like I would love more business insight,
2:05:36 but I I don't follow anybody for that kind of stuff.
2:05:40 Mostly because most of the people online who do business stuff are
2:05:44 so like loud and obnoxious in a way that I don't like.
2:05:46 Like they everyone focuses on stuff that I'm not interested in hustle culture,
2:05:53 grind this, you know, monetize this and funnels and I'm not interested.
2:06:01 It's not it's not like it's wrong.
2:06:02 It's just like it's not the approach that I resonate with.
2:06:07 So, I don't follow anybody for business insight.
2:06:14 Oh, the person about the VC.
2:06:16 Yeah, I need to No worries.
2:06:18 I gota I got to look at that.
2:06:21 Uh, as a tech artist, animation isn't my main thing,
2:06:24 but I really love it and I would like to get better, but I don't have the time.
2:06:28 I can give maximum 30 minutes a day.
2:06:30 What type of exercise do you recommend?
2:06:32 H animation isn't my main thing, but I really love it.
2:06:35 I'd like to get better at it, but I don't I mean,
2:06:37 if you just enjoy it, 30 minutes a day is a reasonable amount.
2:06:41 I mean, it's not a lot of time for sure, but like it's totally fine.
2:06:46 What type of exercises do I recommend?
2:06:48 I mean, very small bite-sized ones that you feel that I would,
2:06:52 if I were in your shoes, I would want to feel like I'm
2:06:55 making actual progress and like accomplishing something.
2:07:00 most of the time and not like chipping away
2:07:03 at a really long project over 30 minutes at a time.
2:07:05 Like that sounds pretty unhappy.
2:07:07 So I would want something with like a high return of like happiness.
2:07:12 So I would do like really targeted focused assignments or exercises,
2:07:17 you know, like animate like if you only have 30 minutes.
2:07:23 It's like like don't you wouldn't animate like
2:07:27 a character acting full body shot blah blah blah.
2:07:31 It'd be like if you want to focus if you want to try
2:07:33 having a character like if you're interested in acting and I made a blink.
2:07:39 See see how far you can get in 30 minutes of a blink.
2:07:44 Get a character to like sniffle or cough or sneeze or like or stub their toe,
2:07:58 but just the stub the toe.
2:07:59 Not like the whole reaction, like just just like the tiniest thing, you know?
2:08:04 Have a character snap their fingers like and just focus on the hand.
2:08:08 Like literally the shot is the hand going like this and going that's it.
2:08:12 Like focus on such bite-size little things
2:08:16 that you can make significant progress in 30 minutes.
2:08:18 or at least if you can't finish it in 30 minutes,
2:08:20 it only takes a couple of days and you could probably finish it within a week.
2:08:23 Um, don't take on anything big because if you enjoy it,
2:08:29 then you should you should get a reward out of it and that reward
2:08:31 should be like finishing shots and and getting to move on to other ideas.
2:08:36 There's nothing worse than when an idea that you're
2:08:38 excited about drags on to where you hate it.
2:08:44 That would be that would be my advice because
2:08:48 then you don't even have to worry about reference, right?
2:08:49 If it's just a snap, you can just stare at your own hand and get what
2:08:52 you need and try to figure out how to translate that.
2:08:59 Monica's going to light box.
2:09:01 Woo.
2:09:02 Very fun.
2:09:08 Um, hello.
2:09:10 I'm the most excited for your Wait.
2:09:12 Hello.
2:09:12 I'm the most I'm the most excited
2:09:14 for your constraint workflow to make body mechanics easier
2:09:16 for a dynamic shot like parenting the camera
2:09:18 and the characters and creating a huge control for both.
2:09:20 You're a legend.
2:09:22 Uh have I done a video on that?
2:09:25 Hopefully that is helpful somewhere.
2:09:29 Feel like I did something with like a dragon once.
2:09:35 Let's see.
2:09:36 Hope I get it to Sony one day.
2:09:38 I believe in you.
2:09:39 You can do it.
2:09:42 The future of a career in CG is to make
2:09:46 your own content and be a team of one to three people.
2:09:51 Yeah, I think I agree with that.
2:09:53 I don't think every project is going to work that way,
2:09:55 but I think there's a lot of people who will succeed in that sort of environment
2:10:01 and that is what people should be trying to build
2:10:04 more than a lot of people currently are now.
2:10:08 Hi there.
2:10:09 Love all your videos.
2:10:09 Thank you.
2:10:10 I do have a question.
2:10:11 Despite seeing many tutorials, I have a hard time dealing with constraints.
2:10:13 How do I practice using props?
2:10:14 I'm just feeling less overwhelmed.
2:10:16 I understand.
2:10:18 Um, my I I I never love I I never like answering a question
2:10:23 like this with like go buy my class because it's not the only option.
2:10:26 It's not the only It's not the only answer for sure,
2:10:30 but it is the answer that will answer all your questions.
2:10:33 So, just like as a first answer,
2:10:35 if you're struggling with constraints on my in my link down there,
2:10:40 the courses.surwway.com,
2:10:43 I have a technical animation class that I just taught in July.
2:10:48 I think I haven't updated the website.
2:10:50 So, the website's going to say like technical
2:10:52 animation skills is back now enrolling coming soon.
2:10:55 Like, it's like it'll have the dates and it'll say July.
2:10:58 We're well past July.
2:10:59 I just haven't updated the site,
2:11:00 but I haven't actually taken down the ability to sign up for the class.
2:11:04 So, what you'll end up signing up for is you'll have like
2:11:08 Zoom recordings essentially of the class that I taught over the summer.
2:11:11 And so, it's not a clean recording.
2:11:13 It is like a Zoom class that you missed,
2:11:15 but like I go through everything in such detail,
2:11:20 like I cover everything about constraints.
2:11:23 Um, so if you're struggling with constraints,
2:11:25 that will answer everything and you'll you'll
2:11:28 have it and you'll have those videos forever.
2:11:32 But I do have some videos on my channel and to answer your actual question,
2:11:37 how do I practice using props?
2:11:41 There are a couple of different kinds of constraint setups.
2:11:47 And there's different like levels of how
2:11:50 correct you want your constraint setup to be.
2:11:52 How bulletproof do you want that constraint to setup to be?
2:11:56 Because for a lot of shots, the most important thing when you're figuring out
2:12:00 like constraint shot stuff is like planning your shot.
2:12:03 Looking at your shot before you begin
2:12:06 and figuring out like what kind of constraint
2:12:09 setup do I need or might I need is important because if I'm like,
2:12:14 oh, I have a character who's holding a pen.
2:12:18 If I know that they're holding the pen and they never let go of it,
2:12:23 then I don't even need a constraint setup.
2:12:25 I could just parent the pen to one of the finger
2:12:28 controls and it'll follow it and it'll work just fine.
2:12:31 But if anything changes and it turns out, oh,
2:12:36 I need to have them let go of the pen for some reason,
2:12:39 they have to toss it in the air,
2:12:40 they're gonna like spin it in some interesting way,
2:12:43 they're going to hand it here, they're going to drop it,
2:12:45 they are going to kind of go, "Oh my gosh." And like they're going to do
2:12:47 some kind of weird little graspy thing with it.
2:12:50 There is a way to brute force work around that stuff,
2:12:54 but like it's never advisable.
2:12:56 um if I make any changes to where it's like, oh no,
2:12:58 I need to be able to disconnect these objects and have them independent.
2:13:01 Then a parent constraint does not work.
2:13:03 And if I had done that, it's going to make my life
2:13:06 harder to have to now backtrack and figure out how to switch it.
2:13:10 And so figuring out ahead of time, hm, no, I need a constraint setup.
2:13:14 Do I need a good constraint setup or can
2:13:18 I get by with kind of a weak constraint setup?
2:13:21 It's the same thing over and over.
2:13:23 Because if you're if you know for sure like, well,
2:13:25 I'm not I'm for sure not gonna do anything complicated.
2:13:28 I do need to have them like let go, but that's kind of it.
2:13:31 I just need them to like put it down or pick it up.
2:13:34 It's like, okay, then we can do like, you know,
2:13:38 a decently good constraint setup, but we don't have to go crazy.
2:13:40 But it's like, oh no,
2:13:41 I want the flexibility to have my character pass it from hand to hand,
2:13:45 drop it, pick it up, grasp it in the same hand.
2:13:48 Oops, I dropped it entirely this time.
2:13:50 kick it with my foot, pick it up with my left hand, hand it to my right.
2:13:55 If I want the flexibility to do whatever I want with it,
2:13:58 then I need a pretty advanced constraint setup.
2:13:59 It's not that it's like really advanced, it's just I need to have a really
2:14:02 well thoughtout constraint system that's very flexible.
2:14:05 And there's like a bunch of steps that that need to happen for that to work.
2:14:10 And so, um, your question, how do you practice?
2:14:17 What I'm trying to say is
2:14:20 identifying like understanding how constraints work like
2:14:24 really understanding how they work and how they think and like how Maya
2:14:27 sees constraints will help you to know like which setup you need
2:14:31 and how complex the setup needs to be for what you're trying to do.
2:14:34 And then beyond that, how you then practice
2:14:36 that once you know which one to practice,
2:14:40 you really just like you could literally just sit there and be like,
2:14:43 I've got this set up.
2:14:43 I've got a character with a pen.
2:14:44 I'm going to just link them together and like do all my little
2:14:48 tests and like you could technically just like you know practice it that way.
2:14:53 But again, it's kind of similar to the other advice I gave,
2:14:55 which is like small tests.
2:14:57 You practice it in small bursts.
2:14:59 Don't have some like I'm going to practice
2:15:02 by having some crazy thing where the person's riding
2:15:05 a horse and then they jump off and they
2:15:06 grab the bottom of a airplane and blah blah.
2:15:09 like you don't build this whole thing that requires you to have the most
2:15:12 embedded system ever and like throw yourself into the fire so that you'll learn.
2:15:17 Um it's really just like okay like let me just see if I
2:15:20 can have a person pick something up and not run into any problems.
2:15:25 Uh or I I'm given feedback and it's like oh no I was given this note.
2:15:29 Good thing I built my constraint in a way that like supports
2:15:31 the note because this would be really hard if I hadn't thought of this.
2:15:36 So, um, that's kind of a I hope
2:15:44 that answers your question of like how to practice.
2:15:46 It's kind of hard to say like how exactly
2:15:48 to practice because it's like what do you practice?
2:15:50 Like really the best thing to practice is understanding how
2:15:52 constraints work and when to use certain levels of complexity.
2:15:57 And that's essentially where I start with my class.
2:15:59 And that's why I talk about it so much.
2:16:01 But hopefully that's kind of helpful.
2:16:06 I'll say one thing just like off the bat though is dealing with a prop
2:16:10 that has been like referenced in from another file versus dealing with a prop
2:16:14 that's just like a piece of geometry in the scene like a cube
2:16:16 or something like I downloaded a sword
2:16:18 and I referenced in that sword versus it's a cube that kind of looks like
2:16:24 a sword drastically different it's not drastically
2:16:27 different setups but it feels drastic when
2:16:30 you don't know the the system very well
2:16:31 because it's like one feels a lot easier here and then one feels like
2:16:34 you're doing all these extra steps just to do what we did the first time.
2:16:38 It's kind of true.
2:16:39 It's a weird thing.
2:16:40 So, it's like again understanding how they work
2:16:42 and understanding like when to use which ones.
2:16:46 That's the thing to practice.
2:16:52 H man, I can empathize.
2:16:53 When I graduated AM in 2018,
2:16:55 I felt it was all I needed to finally break into the industry.
2:16:58 I learned the hard way that it was just a stepping stone,
2:17:00 albeit an important one.
2:17:01 Yeah, 100%.
2:17:06 Education is important.
2:17:08 School is not necessarily important, but education is important, right?
2:17:12 You don't have to go to a specific school.
2:17:15 You don't even have to go to a school, but you do need to get educated.
2:17:20 But that's all it is.
2:17:22 It's education.
2:17:23 It's not actually the preparation for the job.
2:17:25 There is a gap there that you have to fill to prove
2:17:30 that you have learned and can then apply beyond a school
2:17:35 environment and that's what school does not give you and you
2:17:38 have to demonstrate that and everyone gets blindsided by that as well.
2:17:45 Shameless plug my friend Katherine is doing a talk
2:17:48 on Friday light box called the business of animation 101.
2:17:51 Oh, I think wait.
2:17:53 The business of animation one.
2:17:55 Is that No, I'm thinking of a different one.
2:17:58 That's interesting.
2:17:59 The business of animation 101.
2:18:00 She and her fiance found him run animation studio.
2:18:02 That's cool.
2:18:05 I want to see that.
2:18:06 Business of animation.
2:18:06 I' I'd watch that.
2:18:08 I might go to that talk.
2:18:09 That sounds cool.
2:18:13 Um, I've had some experience running an animation studio and didn't go so well.
2:18:22 So, I'm probably going to use that talk earlier.
2:18:25 Um, do you have any advice for Oh, wait.
2:18:27 Hold on.
2:18:27 I skipped one.
2:18:28 Use animation survival kit exercises.
2:18:30 That's also an option.
2:18:31 Do you have any advice for landing an internship specifically
2:18:34 for local studios who may not have listings for internship positions?
2:18:38 Who may not have listings?
2:18:40 I mean, for sure the first step is to like email them or call them or something.
2:18:44 For sure.
2:18:45 Like social media.
2:18:46 I mean, email is probably the first thing.
2:18:48 Email, LinkedIn, social media calling,
2:18:51 if that's even an option, like right off the bat,
2:18:54 if you have a like a local studio who doesn't have listings written anywhere,
2:18:58 you should for sure reach out and ask about it and say,
2:19:00 "Hey, I'm really interested in working with you.
2:19:03 You know, I've noticed that you don't
2:19:04 have listings for internship positions, but you know,
2:19:06 I'd love to be considered if if those are
2:19:10 if you know if those are offered at any point,
2:19:12 you know, where can I keep up to date?
2:19:14 Never be like, can you send stuff to me when you have it?
2:19:17 Like never ask them to like ongoingly do things,
2:19:21 but say like, how can I stay connected to what you're doing?
2:19:26 How can I how can I continue
2:19:27 to take the initiative is really what you're asking.
2:19:31 You're never like, hey,
2:19:32 can you make sure that I have what I need and do extra work for me?
2:19:37 You usually want to phrase it in a way that's more like,
2:19:39 hey, I'm really interested in being a part of your team.
2:19:41 How can I best take the initiative to show you that I'm serious?
2:19:45 And to like be ready for any opportunity that might
2:19:48 come and and make sure I see that opportunity,
2:19:50 you know, I've looked at some stuff and I haven't found the right answer yet.
2:19:54 Do you have additional insights for me?
2:19:58 That's that's how I would phrase that kind of an email.
2:20:01 That's the first step for sure.
2:20:02 Hey Jason, just stopping by.
2:20:06 No worries.
2:20:07 Thanks for coming.
2:20:10 Um, so yeah, that's the first thing.
2:20:14 And then in general, landing an internship, I mean, for sure,
2:20:16 like even though résumés are not the most important thing,
2:20:20 you should have a decent resume.
2:20:23 Make sure you spelled everything correctly.
2:20:25 Make sure you have like correct punctu punctuation and that it,
2:20:29 you know, your resume shows that you are literate.
2:20:33 Uh, I've seen a lot when I was I helped I
2:20:36 helped with a lot of the intern for our department at DreamWorks.
2:20:42 I was very involved with hiring the interns
2:20:44 and helping pick the interns based on the resumes.
2:20:46 I loved it.
2:20:46 I loved like going through the resumes, that kind of thing.
2:20:49 That's why one of the first classes I ever
2:20:51 did online was a resume and cover letter workshop.
2:20:55 Very fun.
2:20:56 It's actually I don't think it's available anymore.
2:20:57 I because I let my Vimeo stuff expire.
2:21:02 And so anyway, the the one of the biggest things that shocked me was how
2:21:09 many people like spelled dreamworks wrong and then
2:21:14 they say in there like attention to detail.
2:21:19 Okay.
2:21:21 So, you know, have a halfway decent resume because if you don't,
2:21:26 it's just going to disqualify you.
2:21:32 It's not like you like if you have a bad resume, you're out.
2:21:34 It's just like if you if you don't know how to spell the studio's name,
2:21:38 then like no one's really going to take you that seriously.
2:21:46 Um, beyond that, best way to get an internship again is
2:21:48 just show a passion and an interest in the type of work.
2:21:52 Doesn't have to be the same work, but the type of work that you want
2:21:55 to do that they are looking for a role within.
2:21:58 Don't feel like you need to like mold yourself to their application,
2:22:02 what you think they want to see.
2:22:03 Don't do that.
2:22:03 Just like do the stuff you want to do.
2:22:06 Do the work that you want to get hired for or that you want to explore and put
2:22:12 that put that out and show them that and say
2:22:16 this is what I'm actively doing because I care.
2:22:18 If you have someone who has like a really impressive resume,
2:22:21 but like it doesn't seem like they're actively doing the stuff.
2:22:23 It just seems like that's just like what they're studying
2:22:26 and they've done a good job of studying, it's like, okay.
2:22:28 But if you have someone who's like they're making
2:22:30 films and they're trying this and like they're passionate,
2:22:32 it's like if someone who's just like they're just they just
2:22:34 want to be creative and so they're just trying to make stuff.
2:22:36 It's kind of like that thing of like that's two extremes, right?
2:22:39 someone who's just like very academically
2:22:41 studying animation and they're interested in it,
2:22:44 but they're like not really demonstrating that much of a passion for it versus
2:22:48 someone who's like like I spend every day like I I I don't know.
2:22:54 When you can see that passion and that energy,
2:22:56 it's like that's the person that you want to work with.
2:22:58 like I want to help you grow because you clearly are
2:23:03 going to like take this opportunity and make it into something
2:23:07 and you're also probably going to help us with whatever
2:23:09 it is we need and so that's the energy you want.
2:23:14 Man, I am not catching up with these messages at all.
2:23:17 So slow.
2:23:20 It would be nice.
2:23:21 It would be nice if Maya would be more like Fusion 360,
2:23:23 a free version just to get people into Maya
2:23:25 so they can use it enough they can buy.
2:23:27 I missed when Maya was free for students without uh an edu account.
2:23:30 I think that was one of the dumbest
2:23:32 decisions they could have made was to get rid
2:23:34 of the .edu or to get rid of the to make
2:23:39 you have to prove that you're a student.
2:23:41 I think software like that there should be a free
2:23:44 version of Maya for animation for like in whatever.
2:23:47 I mean there's Maya Indie.
2:23:48 Maya Indie is a much more affordable version of Maya,
2:23:52 but I still I miss the days where you could
2:23:54 just get a student version for free without proving it.
2:23:59 In addition, what are ways to stand
2:24:00 out when applying to Pixar DreamWorks internship?
2:24:04 It's the side projects.
2:24:06 You stand out through the side projects 100%.
2:24:09 There's little things.
2:24:10 Oh, your resume is colorful, you know,
2:24:11 like but really you stand out through the ext the extracurricular projects,
2:24:16 the stuff that you're doing on the side.
2:24:19 That's the good stuff.
2:24:20 That's the passion.
2:24:26 Do you think aspiring animators should just focus on animation or should they
2:24:29 also take time to learn the basics for other steps in the pipeline?
2:24:33 I think I think both.
2:24:35 I think at this point there was a time where animators were told just animate.
2:24:39 You want to animate just animate.
2:24:41 I think at this point you should be aware of adjacent departments and you should
2:24:45 learn some of the basics of other
2:24:46 things because it will make you more well-rounded.
2:24:49 You'll be able to talk to other departments better.
2:24:51 You'll be able to communicate more effectively with a team
2:24:54 and you'll be more useful to a team that maybe
2:24:57 has a more tight budget and can only hire one
2:25:01 person and you might be the best animator of the group,
2:25:04 but like they need you to do a little bit more than just
2:25:06 animate or like it would actually help them out a lot if you could.
2:25:10 you could assist other departments.
2:25:11 It's like you don't have to do that.
2:25:12 But I think at this point in time,
2:25:14 I think having a little bit of a generalist skill set is very valuable.
2:25:20 I found that for myself.
2:25:21 A lot of stuff I get asked to do is not animation and it's really helpful.
2:25:27 Go do those things.
2:25:32 We have some good questions today.
2:25:34 I am How long have I been streaming for?
2:25:37 Way longer than I intended.
2:25:40 How long have I been going?
2:25:41 Where's the timer?
2:25:43 Two and a half hours.
2:25:43 I've been going for over 30 minutes more than I thought.
2:25:45 Actually, more than an hour longer than I expected.
2:25:48 You guys have good questions today.
2:25:50 We'll keep it going until until I can't do it anymore.
2:25:53 By the way, I haven't slept since yesterday.
2:25:56 I've been up all night.
2:25:57 It is now about 4 pm.
2:26:04 I think I took a meeting yesterday at like 3:30.
2:26:08 I think I had a meeting yesterday at 3:30.
2:26:12 So, I have been effectively sitting in this chair now for over 24 hours.
2:26:17 A couple breaks here and there,
2:26:18 but I've mostly been sitting in this chair for over 24 hours.
2:26:21 I have not slept.
2:26:23 And I still got the good answers to these questions.
2:26:26 Give me a hard one.
2:26:30 Uh, I am finding it difficult to read though.
2:26:32 I don't know if you're like seeing me like struggle to like look.
2:26:35 I You know what?
2:26:36 I'm going to be old and I'm going to like increase the size
2:26:40 of my chat window so I don't have to work so hard to read.
2:26:45 Oh, that's better now that I'm 80.
2:26:51 All right, back to my questions.
2:26:53 Back to your questions.
2:26:54 back to my answers.
2:26:57 Where was I?
2:26:58 I'm currently working in a studio here in my country,
2:27:00 but it's not my dream studio.
2:27:01 I've never attended Animation Mentor,
2:27:03 but I do meet some industry professionals who give me reviews.
2:27:06 Can I get an impressive demo to land a better job?
2:27:08 Oh, of course.
2:27:09 Yeah.
2:27:10 You don't have to go to a school.
2:27:11 You don't have to go to some online animation school or something.
2:27:14 Um, you certainly don't have to go to animation mentor.
2:27:18 Uh, you're working in a studio.
2:27:20 You're already, you know, competent enough to be hired.
2:27:24 That's great.
2:27:25 Up your dream studio.
2:27:26 Let's see.
2:27:27 You do meet that.
2:27:28 That's awesome that you're getting to meet industry people who give you reviews.
2:27:31 That's super important.
2:27:31 That's one of the best ways to get better, you know,
2:27:34 is to be taught stuff and shown stuff
2:27:36 and pointed out what's currently beyond your viewpoint.
2:27:43 Can I get an impressive dem 100%.
2:27:45 I mean, the thing to do is like
2:27:47 whatever you feel like you're lacking in, whatever
2:27:50 things that you feel like you're not very
2:27:51 good at, you should be working on those things.
2:27:54 It's hard when you have another job and like kind of burn out a little bit,
2:27:57 but like that's the thing.
2:27:59 If you have something you're really excited about or passionate about, great.
2:28:02 Pursue it.
2:28:03 If you have stuff that you're like
2:28:04 afraid of having getting assigned because you're like,
2:28:06 "Oh, I'm not very good at hands.
2:28:08 I don't really want to do like this complex hand animation shot.
2:28:10 I'm just going to do something where the hands like go
2:28:13 behind the back so I don't have to worry about them."
2:28:15 probably means you should start animating some hands because if you
2:28:17 can if you can work on those extra things that intimidate you.
2:28:23 That's one of the quickest ways that you can level up
2:28:26 and that kind of stuff is going to show in your other
2:28:28 work that you're already doing because it means that you're actively avoiding
2:28:32 really messing with those things because
2:28:34 you know there's something missing there.
2:28:36 So if you can fill in those gaps, it's going to go a long ways towards
2:28:40 making your whole portfolio feel that much better.
2:28:44 If you keep getting a little bit better
2:28:46 with the stuff you're already decent at, it's
2:28:48 not as big of a difference for your demo reel as if you go from like,
2:28:52 "Yeah, I I don't really know how to do this." to like,
2:28:55 "I'm competent." It proves to the studio like,
2:28:58 "Look what I can do." Like, "Oh, good.
2:29:00 We didn't see them animating any hands before.
2:29:02 Don't know if you could do it.
2:29:03 Now we can see you can do it." Like,
2:29:04 that's a big change versus, "Ah, your mechanics are a little bit better.
2:29:13 What's up, Menie?
2:29:14 How you doing?
2:29:18 Definitely got some clarity.
2:29:19 Thank you for answering the question.
2:29:20 Hope to get to your course someday.
2:29:22 Yeah, I hope I I And for the record, I have a constraint video that I filmed.
2:29:27 I haven't edited it yet, but I have it somewhere and I need to get to that.
2:29:36 Oh, yeah.
2:29:36 I have another video straight.
2:29:39 Excuse me.
2:29:40 I have another video on constraints that should come probably, honestly,
2:29:45 it'll probably come either in November or more likely in December.
2:29:48 I'd really like to get it out though.
2:29:51 It's a really good video.
2:29:53 It's just It's a lot of footage.
2:29:55 It's so much footage.
2:29:56 I got to edit it down.
2:30:00 Hello.
2:30:00 Last Friday when you were live, I asked you about the progressive walk cycle.
2:30:03 I was able to fix the sliding.
2:30:04 It is sliding much slower, but is still a little sliding.
2:30:07 Hm.
2:30:10 Um, well, if your feet are in linear
2:30:21 when they're going when they're like if they're
2:30:24 like sliding like they should be in linear
2:30:27 for the part where they're stationary on the floor.
2:30:32 Beyond that, what else could it be?
2:30:35 If you're using infinity curve with offset,
2:30:37 it could mean that your offset is slightly off.
2:30:40 It's not actually syncing up properly.
2:30:42 And then over time, that little diff
2:30:44 distance offset gets more and more pronounced.
2:30:48 That could be a thing.
2:30:51 Um, they are unlinear.
2:30:55 Okay, I would check the offset thing, but if that's not the problem either,
2:31:07 [Music] what you could do at that point,
2:31:13 it's hard for me to say what it could be
2:31:15 at that like I think it's one of those things.
2:31:16 And if it's not one of those things, then it's almost impossible for me to just
2:31:19 guess what it would be because it could
2:31:21 be any number of other weird stuff depending
2:31:24 on like the rig or your workflow or whatever.
2:31:26 But if you hit this point where you're like, "Huh,
2:31:29 my usual go-to troubleshooting steps aren't they don't
2:31:32 seem to be the answer." What do you do?
2:31:35 How do you make sure?
2:31:39 And what I would say is that's where Anabot comes into play.
2:31:47 That is where you want to use Anamot because if you have foot sliding,
2:31:50 you can just convert the feet in whatever space they're sliding in.
2:31:54 Convert them to world space.
2:31:55 Make them back into world space.
2:31:57 And then wherever they're sliding, you'll see a curve editor like you'll
2:32:00 see the graph editor moving where it's like,
2:32:01 oh yeah, they're sliding up the thing.
2:32:03 Just lock all that back to the same value and they won't slide anymore.
2:32:07 You even put it back out of world space if you want to at that point.
2:32:10 it.
2:32:11 Um, that's where Anabot comes in to say like, "Oh, I'm having a problem.
2:32:15 Not really sure where it's coming from.
2:32:18 Remove the problem." It's great.
2:32:24 I asked Chad GPT and it says that it happened.
2:32:27 I have to write some mail expression for it.
2:32:29 Can you please guide a little I don't know what Chad GPT is telling you to do.
2:32:32 You don't need to write a male expression for it.
2:32:34 I mean, maybe that is a potential solution,
2:32:37 but that's not going to be the solution that you need.
2:32:41 Chad GP does Chad GPT does not know how to animate.
2:32:44 Sometimes there's some useful information that it might
2:32:46 point you in a good direction for troubleshooting, but chat GPT doesn't know.
2:32:53 And I'm not like I mean I'm not the biggest fan.
2:32:58 I don't know.
2:33:00 I understand the utility of chatt for certain things,
2:33:02 but for animation, I'm not really interested in entertaining it.
2:33:07 I don't think it's a good idea.
2:33:09 I don't personally think it's a very good idea
2:33:11 to to run your animation problems by chat GPT.
2:33:14 It's not like you shouldn't.
2:33:17 You can if you're really stumped and you can't find the answer,
2:33:20 maybe it'll figure out like where you know it'll find some source,
2:33:23 find some article, find some thing where it's like, "Oh,
2:33:25 here's the script." Like, "Oh my gosh, I never would have found that.
2:33:28 That's so much quicker." Sure.
2:33:30 But in general, I wouldn't run this up
2:33:31 by chat GPT because that is a really, really,
2:33:35 really important skill in animation is to figure out
2:33:38 how to troubleshoot specific weird issues in your 3D software,
2:33:44 especially when you're working with proprietary tools or cutting
2:33:47 edge technology that's being actively developed where there
2:33:50 is no physical way that AI could possibly know
2:33:52 the answer because there's nothing to train it on.
2:33:54 The stuff's brand new.
2:33:55 And if you don't have that skill set
2:33:57 of troubleshooting and solving those problems, you're out of luck.
2:34:00 Like getting and keeping a job, it's going to be a real tough time.
2:34:05 That's my opinion.
2:34:07 But again, you know, there's been times where like I've been super
2:34:10 stumped and I'm like, I'm going to ask J.
2:34:13 Like early on years ago at this point, I was like, let me ask Chad GPT.
2:34:17 And it gave me some helpful stuff and it didn't give me the answer I needed,
2:34:19 but it kind of led me in the right direction to find the answer that I needed.
2:34:22 So it was helpful.
2:34:24 But in general, pursue other sources.
2:34:33 Um, that's my opinion.
2:34:40 Um, and also that might have been a little off topic for your question,
2:34:42 but just as a general thought, thought I'd share.
2:34:45 I'm studying computer science at my university
2:34:46 and it's killing me in my senior year, though.
2:34:49 Trying to make the best to the end.
2:34:51 Hey, I was computer science before I dropped out and went to animation.
2:34:55 So, I understand that.
2:34:57 I liked it.
2:34:58 I did not love it.
2:34:59 And I think if I had stuck with it, I'd probably feel like you feel Is it Is
2:35:05 it because it's hard and it's just like difficult,
2:35:07 or is it because you're not really enjoying it and you're just like,
2:35:09 I'm this close to finishing.
2:35:10 I may as well finish it.
2:35:13 I'm assuming it's the second one.
2:35:19 And if that's the case, I hope it feels like it flies by and that you
2:35:23 can move on to something that makes you happier.
2:35:28 Maya was free at one point.
2:35:29 No, Maya wasn't free.
2:35:31 Maya had an educational student license that was free.
2:35:35 Like Maya still has a a free educational license,
2:35:38 but in order to get it, you have to use aedu email from some organization.
2:35:44 Like you know if you community college class
2:35:46 for example you could take a community college
2:35:48 class anywhere get aedu email and with that you can get a free license to Maya.
2:35:57 So you used to not have to prove it.
2:35:59 You used to not have to use the edu email.
2:36:01 You would just say I'm a student and they'd
2:36:03 say okay here's a free license to Maya.
2:36:06 It was a free student license that had
2:36:08 a little popup every time you'd open or save.
2:36:10 Just said this is a non-commercial version
2:36:12 but it wasn't like locked or anything.
2:36:13 it was just just non-commercial.
2:36:16 Um, they changed that to where you now have
2:36:18 to prove that you're a student with an edu email.
2:36:20 That's the change they made.
2:36:22 But they also provided an alternative to the really
2:36:26 expensive commercial grade Maya where we have Maya Indie.
2:36:30 That's what I've had for years.
2:36:32 So, in the link to all of my videos, I have a link to Maya Indie,
2:36:37 which is the more affordable indie independent artist license.
2:36:42 If you make less than a million dollars using Maya,
2:36:44 you're eligible to use that license.
2:36:46 And it's like 300 bucks.
2:36:48 It's it's the standard cost of 3D software that requires payment.
2:36:55 Maya, Cinema 4D, Houdini,
2:36:57 these tools all require money and they're all ballpark the same price.
2:37:01 And so it's it's a reasonable option that if
2:37:04 you're going to get Maya and you're not a student,
2:37:06 then that's what I would recommend.
2:37:08 And if you use my link in the description,
2:37:10 it's one of those affiliate links and I get a little commission from Autodesk.
2:37:13 It doesn't change your price, but we get to take some of the money
2:37:16 back from the big company and give it to me,
2:37:18 which is nice because Autodesk is laying a bunch
2:37:21 of people off and spending all their money on AI.
2:37:24 So, if you must pay them,
2:37:27 you should use my link so that we can take some of that money back
2:37:30 and give it to me so that I can spend it on things for you.
2:37:34 Because that's what I do with the stuff I earn on this channel.
2:37:37 I try to reinvest it into stuff that's going to help people,
2:37:40 which is what I'm doing at Lightbox.
2:37:48 Scroll up a little bit.
2:37:53 Uh, I use my Indie, but I love Blender more and about to try Unreal more.
2:37:57 Totally fair.
2:37:58 Yeah, I use my Indie, too, but I also like Blender for a lot of stuff.
2:38:02 Some of that stuff a lot more than I like it for Maya.
2:38:04 Just depends on the the topic.
2:38:06 that I'm doing a ton in Unreal, so I am very tired.
2:38:12 I'm a self-taught 3D generalist with animation experience.
2:38:15 After years of work, I want to deepen my knowledge and fill some gaps.
2:38:18 Should I start with the basics or advanced classes?
2:38:21 Basics.
2:38:23 Always basics.
2:38:25 There's never an answer that I wouldn't say basics.
2:38:28 Even if it's repetitive, even if you've done some of it before,
2:38:30 it's always beneficial to revisit
2:38:32 the basics and the fundamentals with animation,
2:38:34 especially if you're in a new educational space.
2:38:38 For example, if you'd already learned,
2:38:41 if you had a full animation degree from some college and you
2:38:46 were finding my YouTube channel for the first time, you're like, "Wow,
2:38:48 this guy's videos are pretty good." I would tell you you probably should
2:38:53 start at my first basics fundamentals class because I almost guarant I would
2:38:57 guarantee even if you have some degree from a college like I will
2:39:02 show you stuff in the first class that that school never showed you.
2:39:05 And that's not me being like egoey about me.
2:39:07 It's just that typically that's the problem
2:39:09 with like most schools and universities
2:39:11 is that like they're not like they they're not as uh you know,
2:39:20 it's just that's kind of the rep they have.
2:39:22 It's like you might go to a school and get a degree
2:39:24 and spend a bunch of money for animation and then finish and go,
2:39:28 "Huh, well, that's a lot of money.
2:39:31 I'm in debt now and I'm not getting a job.
2:39:34 I guess I'll go start at the beginning of an animation
2:39:37 school now or something or go take one of my classes.
2:39:41 It's a very common thing because they just don't have the information.
2:39:45 So, um I would always say the basics because it's always beneficial.
2:39:52 It's never a bad idea because it's a bad idea if you
2:39:56 pay money and go to the advanced class and then you realize later,
2:39:59 I wasn't ready for it.
2:40:00 I'm not getting enough out of it and I'm actually not actually progressing.
2:40:05 That's worse.
2:40:10 My Achilles heel is acting shots.
2:40:11 So, I got an Alexi Wanoy facial and acting animation course.
2:40:15 He is fantastic.
2:40:16 Alexi is great.
2:40:18 Stan, I completely I fully endorse Alexi as a teacher.
2:40:23 I learned a lot from him.
2:40:24 He's fantastic.
2:40:25 So, I hope that was a helpful class for you.
2:40:28 That's probably that that I think I've seen
2:40:30 that course on like Instagram ads or something.
2:40:37 He's great.
2:40:39 Uh, question two.
2:40:40 Hope you get some rest soon.
2:40:41 I'm in a bit of a conundrum right now.
2:40:43 I got burnt out after finishing college.
2:40:44 I'm stuck between working on my reel and just learning to love this again.
2:40:49 I understand that.
2:40:51 Wait, so what is the question?
2:40:53 Kind of like how I how to deal with that.
2:40:55 got burnt out after finishing college and stuck between
2:40:57 working on my real learn to love it again.
2:41:00 Uh, that's a tough one.
2:41:05 I feel like I have a couple answers to that.
2:41:08 If you feel burnt out after finishing college,
2:41:14 chances are, and I I I could be wrong, I could be off base here,
2:41:18 but chances are some aspect of your school was if if not toxic, then like bad.
2:41:30 That might not be the case,
2:41:32 but I would think that it's a it's a fairly reasonable thing
2:41:37 to think that like if you finish school and you're burnt out on animation,
2:41:41 your school did something wrong because when I
2:41:45 left animation mentor when I was a student,
2:41:47 I like left my school I was going to, I wasn't like burnt out.
2:41:50 I wanted a break for sure, but I wasn't like, "Oh, I need a break.
2:41:54 I'm so burnt out." It was more like like, "Ah, no deadlines for a week.
2:41:58 This is great.
2:41:59 I'm gonna take like a week or two and like not have any deadlines.
2:42:01 But I was also like, let's keep going.
2:42:09 Um because yeah, that's the thing I've seen a lot.
2:42:12 I've seen a I've actually I've worked with a few people.
2:42:15 I had a mentorship for a really long time,
2:42:18 a mentorship program that I ran for years and I only this year
2:42:21 I had to like put it on pause because I was so busy.
2:42:23 I couldn't I couldn't didn't have time for the meetings.
2:42:27 But um so I pretty much put it on pause.
2:42:31 But that was something that like I worked with a student.
2:42:36 I worked for someone.
2:42:37 I went I went and I spoke at this school
2:42:39 in Texas and the student like responded to my speaking engagement.
2:42:48 They were like really about it and I was
2:42:50 like wow I didn't think I was that good.
2:42:52 And I found I came to find out that I was like the only speaker that they'd
2:42:55 ever had in four or five years
2:42:56 of this school that was like not a miserable person.
2:43:01 I was like, "This is you guys can do it." And they're like,
2:43:03 "We've never been encouraged before." Like what?
2:43:07 Um it was crazy.
2:43:10 The things I I learned about that school.
2:43:12 Wild.
2:43:13 But I ended up with one of those students joined
2:43:15 my mentorship program and I worked with her for a couple
2:43:18 of years and it started off as helping with animation
2:43:24 and it ended as what I call animation therapy.
2:43:27 Uh, and I've done that with several people where we
2:43:30 stop working on animation just they they they want they
2:43:34 would rather spend the time sort of like working through
2:43:37 animation trauma um and talking through that stuff than actually like
2:43:42 working on shots because the stuff that they were dealing
2:43:45 with and like trying to animate was so stressful and difficult
2:43:50 that like you know anyways all this to say I've
2:43:56 seen that before where people like they finish school and you're
2:43:58 burnt out from school and you like you don't love
2:44:00 it anymore and you're like I want to love it
2:44:02 but I don't right now and that is a that is
2:44:05 a problem with where you went to school not with you
2:44:10 some time away from it can help almost like restarting
2:44:17 like why like revisiting why you loved it originally and revisiting
2:44:21 that side of it and like approaching it in a different
2:44:24 way than you've now been conditioned to think about animation.
2:44:27 It's a very difficult thing to switch,
2:44:28 but it's like it's kind of like physical therapy or something, right?
2:44:32 So, I call it animation therapy.
2:44:34 Like, it's basically physical therapy.
2:44:35 It's like if you had an injury and you can no longer walk,
2:44:38 and I'm I'm not a physical therapist person.
2:44:41 Like, I don't I don't go outside.
2:44:43 I don't know what I'm talking about here, but it's that idea, right?
2:44:45 Like, if you injure yourself and you can't walk very well,
2:44:49 it's like it's, you know, painful and difficult to walk.
2:44:51 You don't do nothing, but you also can't just I'm just gonna push through it.
2:44:58 Like, you can't do that either.
2:44:59 Um, there is a process to like work yourself back up
2:45:05 and like retrain your body of like how to do that thing.
2:45:09 Um, which is like that's like the direction of that.
2:45:12 It's like you need something like that.
2:45:13 You need to sort of like reset this the connections and like
2:45:19 approach it in a healthy way and like you got to fix
2:45:22 that problem that they created for you and it's like not
2:45:27 fair to you that you are in that situation in those cases.
2:45:31 But like to love it again, that's what needs to happen.
2:45:36 And as far as I'm aware, the best way to do that is either returning
2:45:40 to the source of why you liked it originally.
2:45:46 Finding a new person to guide you sometimes works
2:45:52 for people like learning it from a new source
2:45:54 and a new person who can like guide you
2:45:57 around that stuff to like take you a new way.
2:46:00 Or it's like the people.
2:46:01 It's like you have to find other artists who are also like you got to like
2:46:05 you got to be in it with them and there's like a different kind of excitement.
2:46:08 Those are the three things that to me I've seen work for different people.
2:46:13 I hope that's somewhat helpful.
2:46:19 Is it more advantageous to work on personal
2:46:22 projects or short films rather than finishing
2:46:24 animation mentor or how does I love
2:46:26 how many animation mentor questions we have today.
2:46:29 Is it more advantageous to work on personal
2:46:31 projects or short films rather than finish animation mentor?
2:46:33 Does finishing the program stand alone in value as well?
2:46:35 AM classes get to tour studios.
2:46:39 Does that have an additional value?
2:46:40 Um, oh, and I realized that I so I had more to her question.
2:46:47 I'll come back to I'll I'll get there.
2:46:50 Um, is more advantageous to work on personal
2:46:54 projects or short films rather than finishing them?
2:46:56 Uh, depends on the person, but I would say probably not.
2:47:03 This is I don't want to I don't want
2:47:07 to linger on the topic of what I'm about to say.
2:47:09 I don't want to linger here,
2:47:10 but I I used to recommend Animation Mentor to everybody.
2:47:21 is like it's where I went to school and I really like
2:47:23 it and d and I think you should like check it out.
2:47:27 Um I no longer say that it's no longer my top recommendation.
2:47:42 I'm not saying that you shouldn't go there.
2:47:44 Do you want do what you want, but I'm no longer recommending it.
2:47:51 for my own reasons.
2:47:53 Um, I'm not unrecommending it.
2:47:58 I'm just not actively recommending it, right?
2:48:01 So, I'm like in a neutral place with it.
2:48:03 So, that's one thing that like I haven't really shared all that much,
2:48:08 but that's the thing.
2:48:09 But I don't But that said, so like, but that's important.
2:48:13 That's important for me to say that because what I want to follow
2:48:15 that up with is I don't necessarily think that it's a great idea
2:48:21 to try to go like personal projects or short films rather than finishing it
2:48:24 if you're in it because the best part about the curriculum is class six,
2:48:31 the last class in the run of the character animation program.
2:48:35 If you're in the regular character animation program at AM
2:48:38 and you've already gone through a significant portion of this the classes,
2:48:43 if you're in like four or five or whatever,
2:48:46 six is the one that kind of makes it make sense and you're like, "Oh,
2:48:49 that's how that's that's what all this was leading
2:48:52 up to." Like now I understand how to animate.
2:48:54 That was my feeling at the end of classics.
2:48:58 The mentors for classics are really good.
2:49:00 And um not that they aren't for other classes,
2:49:03 but like the mentors for classics are
2:49:04 particularly good and they really are good teachers.
2:49:07 Sean Ston is who I had and I I learned
2:49:12 so much from him that I still use to this day.
2:49:14 And um his class in particular like so beneficial and you'll get way more
2:49:21 from his class than you will from working
2:49:23 on your own stuff without having his guidance.
2:49:26 So, no, I don't think it's more advantageous to work
2:49:29 on personal projects or short programs rather than finishing the school.
2:49:32 The way you phrased it particularly like no,
2:49:33 I don't think the answer I think the answer um I don't necessarily
2:49:38 think that like finishing the program has like a special kind of value,
2:49:42 but that class at the end is
2:49:44 a particularly good class with particularly good mentors.
2:49:49 So, that's that's essentially my answer.
2:49:52 And I say that with that context that like I'm
2:49:55 not actively recommending Animation Mentor to people at this point
2:49:59 for reasons that I am not particularly comfortable talking about
2:50:05 in like a live stream that I I'm not editing this video.
2:50:08 Like that's where I'm going to end that part of my conversation for now.
2:50:12 But it, you know, I'm not saying it's bad or that you shouldn't go there.
2:50:15 Do you want do your thing?
2:50:16 Um I went there and I enjoyed it and I got a lot out of it.
2:50:20 I went at a different time.
2:50:22 And also, I think there's a lot of really good
2:50:23 benefits now that exist that didn't exist when I was there.
2:50:25 Like, it's it's way better now than it was when I was a student there.
2:50:30 There's also a lot of other options.
2:50:32 And um yeah, so, you know, not trying to bash it.
2:50:40 I'm just there's more information there.
2:50:44 Um, but yeah, I I feel like that's important context just because like
2:50:51 I say that, but then I'm also saying the last class is great.
2:50:55 You know what I mean?
2:50:59 Uh, and the thing about touring studios that's that's very
2:51:01 heavily like dependent on like the arrangement of the year.
2:51:04 I I don't think that's something to like count on and like like ah it's going
2:51:08 to have this at the end like it
2:51:09 might not not everybody it's like different, right?
2:51:12 So, um, I wouldn't say that that's
2:51:15 a particular value because that's not a guarantee.
2:51:20 All right, back to the other question.
2:51:21 The question, what do I work on?
2:51:23 Can I be both enjoying animation and making something for the portfolio?
2:51:26 Yes, 100%.
2:51:27 I kind of skipped over this, but one thing
2:51:29 I I should have said that I I thought about
2:51:31 it and then I forgot to say it was you
2:51:35 can go too deep into like learning how to animate
2:51:38 and like being very academic about like doing it
2:51:41 the right way and like learning the steps and sometimes you
2:51:45 should just make stuff for fun because it's fun and you're
2:51:47 just like ah screw around to just make goofy stuff.
2:51:50 100% you should do that.
2:51:51 I think that's something that I did wrong.
2:51:53 I was really focused on like I need to learn how to animate and like
2:51:56 follow the steps and do the assignments and like that's what I need to do.
2:52:00 And like I then had a really hard time
2:52:02 like being creative and just making stuff for fun.
2:52:05 I really struggled and I still to some extent struggled doing
2:52:08 that because I really like sort of conditioned myself out of that creativity.
2:52:18 So yes, if you are feeling burnt out and like about animation,
2:52:23 then you should make something stupid that you like like I'm just going to make
2:52:26 something dumb that like doesn't matter and I'm not going to do it right.
2:52:28 I'm just going to do it because it's fun.
2:52:29 You should do that.
2:52:31 Yes.
2:52:32 Not everything you make has to be good.
2:52:34 Not everything you make has to be for like a particularly like,
2:52:37 you know, great reason.
2:52:39 Yeah.
2:52:39 Just have fun with it.
2:52:41 You should be having fun with it.
2:52:45 And that kind of stuff can go in your portfolio
2:52:47 because that's the kind of stuff like if you just make
2:52:48 something because you thought it was fun and it's like
2:52:50 goofy and kind of bad and whatever, but you enjoyed it.
2:52:52 It's like you should 100% put that on your demo reel
2:52:55 because that's the kind of stuff that you're actually passionate about.
2:52:57 And studios will want to see what will you make if left to your own devices.
2:53:02 You know, what kind of creative energy are you bringing to the table?
2:53:05 What kind of chaos comes with you?
2:53:14 I started college as an aerospace engine aerospace engineering major.
2:53:18 Thank god the school had a game diff program and one
2:53:20 loan animation class cuz I was knocked out for engineering.
2:53:22 No shame in switching majors.
2:53:24 Agree.
2:53:25 I was going to do electrical engineering and then I was going to do
2:53:28 business administration and then I discovered computer
2:53:31 science and I was like heck yeah.
2:53:32 And then I was like animation that's way better.
2:53:35 Let's do that instead.
2:53:39 I support Sir Wade taking our money.
2:53:44 Me too.
2:53:45 But in like a good way because I'll I'll
2:53:48 I'll I'll give you useful knowledge in return for it.
2:53:52 I won't rip you off.
2:53:56 It'll it'll be good money spent.
2:54:02 Let's see.
2:54:06 I'm going to be doing Animation Mentor this winter.
2:54:07 That's good to know.
2:54:08 That's cool.
2:54:11 In case you're interested, I also have some classes that are a lot cheaper
2:54:17 that I'm not necessarily saying are like it's not apples to apples.
2:54:20 It's a different thing.
2:54:22 There's a lot of stuff.
2:54:23 There's a lot of good reasons to go to a school like Animation Mentor.
2:54:26 Um, they give you a bunch of stuff that like I don't, you know, I'm one person.
2:54:29 They have a whole school.
2:54:30 So, I'm not trying to be like,
2:54:32 "Go to me instead." But in case you're interested,
2:54:38 I have very affordable classes.
2:54:40 I have some stuff coming up.
2:54:41 I'm mounting a light box.
2:54:42 That's what I'm alluding to here.
2:54:44 But no, do your thing.
2:54:45 Enjoy enjoy the winter classes.
2:54:47 Do you still use your Rookco suit?
2:54:49 Uh, yes, but I currently have an XN suit on loan,
2:54:53 which is a much higher quality suit with much stronger data.
2:54:58 And so I am not currently really using
2:55:01 the Rooko suit because I have access to something fancier.
2:55:07 Once I have to give that suit back, I will be back to my Rooko suit and that's
2:55:12 what I will be using when I need motion capture.
2:55:14 But I've now tasted like I've had it's like
2:55:21 I've had I've had like okay chocolate and I've
2:55:25 had like really good chocolate and there's like gourmet
2:55:28 chocolate about I don't know why chocolate's my analogy.
2:55:30 I think I'm hungry.
2:55:32 But I do still use my RCOO soup but I don't
2:55:36 use it over the other option I have at the moment.
2:55:38 And once I lose that option I'll be back to the RCO soup.
2:55:40 But I will wish that I had something a little bit stronger.
2:55:43 RCO is a great like entry level suit, but at my for what I do like I I need
2:55:51 I would really prefer to have something stronger than entry level data.
2:55:59 That's definitely the case.
2:56:00 Right on the mark.
2:56:00 Actually, I thought it might be.
2:56:06 Yo, man.
2:56:07 Any advice on starting your own studio for feature animations?
2:56:11 I mean, yeah, you should watch my video
2:56:13 on starting and failing at running an animation studio.
2:56:16 There's some actually really good tips in there
2:56:18 because I was running a studio for a while.
2:56:20 Wasn't for a feature, but um there's some good tips in there.
2:56:24 Advice for studio for feature animation.
2:56:26 I mean, like that's a lot of work.
2:56:30 I would say start with that video.
2:56:32 Honestly, I don't I don't have anything beyond that right now.
2:56:35 I'd be like, watch that video.
2:56:41 uh with the current state of the industry.
2:56:42 Actually, the the other thing I would just say just
2:56:44 to say it is like take care of your artists.
2:56:47 Don't don't try to run a studio if
2:56:49 you're not going to take care of your artists.
2:56:51 If you're going to just like take advantage of people,
2:56:52 and I'm not saying that like you're going to do this.
2:56:54 It's just I've seen this enough.
2:56:57 People spin up studios because they want what they
2:56:59 want and they'll they're willing to like mistreat people
2:57:04 who work with them and work for them so
2:57:07 that they can make money and so they can whatever.
2:57:09 Like don't don't bother.
2:57:12 Just don't we don't need more of that.
2:57:15 You know, there is a way to be ethical
2:57:19 in this business and it is very difficult but it's worth it.
2:57:23 So, you know, that's my advice.
2:57:25 My advice is to just like be a decent person if
2:57:29 you're going to run this stuff because you can do it.
2:57:35 Some of these studios do a really good job of it.
2:57:37 Others, they're not the blueprint you want to follow.
2:57:43 With the current state of the industry,
2:57:45 how can one get into the gaming industry through animations?
2:57:48 I'm not the best person to ask about getting
2:57:50 into the games industry because I've never had a job in games.
2:57:52 It's something I'm very interested in, but I I have not done it.
2:57:55 So, I I'm not really the best person to answer that question.
2:57:59 But my, you know, guess of an answer currently the industry,
2:58:05 how can I get into the gaming industry through animations?
2:58:07 Same as ever.
2:58:08 You know, do the job you want to be hired
2:58:10 to do and demonstrate that you can do that job.
2:58:12 So, if you want to get into the gaming
2:58:14 industry and you want to do animation for games,
2:58:16 then you should make game animations and you should learn how to implement
2:58:19 them in a real engine or whatever engine you're trying to work with.
2:58:22 And you should learn how to use the different systems.
2:58:28 if it's unreal, you know, montages and I don't know,
2:58:33 notifies and and blueprints and you should
2:58:36 learn enough of those systems so that you
2:58:41 know you're effectively already doing the job
2:58:44 and then show that you're like, hey,
2:58:46 I made like a locomotion system for this for like
2:58:48 the fake game and I did these things and I g I
2:58:52 got some feedback and I used this to fix it
2:58:55 and I learned this tool and blah blah and they'll be like,
2:58:56 "Oh yeah, you know what you're doing.
2:58:57 Get in here.
2:58:58 That's how you get the job.
2:58:59 Like, demonstrate that you can do the job.
2:59:05 I decided on getting back to study 3D animation.
2:59:07 Wait.
2:59:08 I decided on getting back to study 3D in university,
2:59:10 and the goal is to have my own animation studio like DreamWorks.
2:59:14 You don't want your own animation studio like DreamWorks right now.
2:59:18 DreamWorks has had some good movies come out lately.
2:59:21 They've been had some they have great creative people there.
2:59:24 DreamWorks as a studio right now.
2:59:26 They are From what I know, from what I've seen lately, they're not doing so hot.
2:59:34 Um, but what do I know?
2:59:37 I'm not there anymore.
2:59:41 What you want to do is you want to make
2:59:42 cool stuff that you're proud of with other passionate artists.
2:59:45 That's what you want.
2:59:46 I mean, I'm speaking for you a little bit,
2:59:47 but it's typically what the goal should be is,
2:59:51 you know, the creativity and the collaboration.
2:59:55 And you don't necessarily need to build something like DreamWorks to have that.
3:00:00 But that's your goal, go for it.
3:00:03 You know, just keep sight of the things that's important.
3:00:08 Thanks for your insight on the burnout conundrum.
3:00:10 Knowing it's common makes me feel much better,
3:00:12 and I look forward to getting back to it.
3:00:13 The stream alone helps.
3:00:15 I'm glad.
3:00:16 That is why we're here today.
3:00:17 That is why I'm doing these.
3:00:18 These are literally the entire point of these like Friday, what do I call them?
3:00:22 Live Fridays.
3:00:23 Friday lives.
3:00:25 Live Fridays.
3:00:26 I'm calling them live Fridays.
3:00:28 They're literally just as a fun little second screen experience so that we
3:00:31 can all hang out and have a good time and, you know,
3:00:34 bring some good vibes because we all need it.
3:00:39 We all need the good vibes right now.
3:00:43 I'd definitely be interested since I learned a lot through
3:00:45 your videos that my original college teachers weren't demonstrating that well.
3:00:49 Yeah, that's one of my favorite like reviews and testimonials on my classes.
3:00:54 I get that a lot in my like, you know, what did you think of the class?
3:00:58 Like, leave a review type thing.
3:01:01 Um, it's my favorite thing.
3:01:03 It's like, I went to a school for this many years and you taught
3:01:07 me more in the first week than I learned in the first like three year,
3:01:12 four years at this university.
3:01:14 What was I doing?
3:01:16 Like I so wish that I could just be like let me take 10% just
3:01:24 like 10 measly percent of like a college
3:01:27 tuition like of all the students that what
3:01:29 they charged all the animators like we just take 10% of that and I'll like
3:01:35 live pretty for a long time and I'll make you the best course content ever.
3:01:39 Like if I could convince everybody who's like we're all going to college
3:01:42 and we're going to spend all this money on an animation school.
3:01:44 If I could just convince everybody's parents like, "Hey,
3:01:48 take the tuition or whatever that you're going to pay.
3:01:51 Chop it in half.
3:01:52 Get take it make a third of it.
3:01:54 Give me like a just take like 25% some
3:01:56 small just like save most of that and give
3:02:01 me the rest and I will build you a better like I will I will get you a job.
3:02:07 I will I will work I will get you that job.
3:02:12 for how expensive those schools are.
3:02:14 Please, I will.
3:02:18 That's the goal.
3:02:20 So expensive and you get nothing for it.
3:02:23 Even some of the online schools,
3:02:24 that's kind of one of my things now is like a lot of the online
3:02:26 schools are really expensive and sometimes
3:02:28 they're worth it and sometimes they're not.
3:02:29 And that's why a lot of my stuff is
3:02:31 not that expensive because I'm one person and I
3:02:34 can make it a little bit cheaper and make
3:02:36 it more accessible and still deliver really good stuff.
3:02:40 I think I hope you know I too would like
3:02:50 to you know not be doing this with the economy.
3:02:54 You know we're all we're all there.
3:02:57 Let's stop giving it to the board of director rich people
3:03:02 who run these schools and don't even make a good program.
3:03:04 What the heck?
3:03:05 Anyway, uh I'm learning animation,
3:03:10 but do I need to know about game engine to work for game animation?
3:03:12 It helps.
3:03:13 You don't necessarily need to know.
3:03:14 It depends on the studio.
3:03:15 It's beneficial.
3:03:17 You don't have to learn it, but if you can learn it, it will help you.
3:03:22 You'll have more control over your animation in game.
3:03:26 Uh you don't have to since game development relies
3:03:28 a lot on Maya or Blender or the animation aspect,
3:03:30 but you should learn how to implement those animations
3:03:32 in engines like Unreal for a smooth workflow.
3:03:34 Yes.
3:03:34 Um, technically you could animate directly in the engine now
3:03:38 and you could also use motion capture and there's like other methods
3:03:41 beyond my end blender and stuff but like yeah typically if
3:03:45 you can learn how to implement it it's going to help agree.
3:03:50 In your opinion what is the best personal quality wait in your opinion what is
3:03:53 the best personal quality or practical skill set
3:03:55 that you see in character animation or character animators?
3:03:59 Best personal quality or practical skill set.
3:04:04 Um, discipline for sure is one of them.
3:04:11 Feels like a little bit of like a hustle buzz word,
3:04:14 but like being disciplined and being able to just like I'm going to sit
3:04:18 down and I'm going to not stop working on this until I hit this point.
3:04:23 So important.
3:04:24 It is so easy to procra procrastinate
3:04:26 or get distracted or like start noodling with stuff.
3:04:29 Like you just have to kind of like move through and like
3:04:32 sometimes it's just like I just have to block this out.
3:04:34 I just need to get all the poses in there and it's tedious
3:04:37 and it's annoying but like once you do it then you can move on.
3:04:40 You can do other things.
3:04:42 Um and so discipline and just pushing forward very important.
3:04:53 And beyond that, I would I would also say something really I
3:04:59 mean I would say there's a certain not in like an annoying way,
3:05:05 but like being generally positive is a very
3:05:09 very beneficial helpful thing to have and to be.
3:05:13 You don't need to be like toxic positivity and it's not like you're not
3:05:15 allowed to be like frustrated and like burnt out or like gh it's depressing.
3:05:21 Like you can feel your feelings,
3:05:24 but no one wants to work with like a downer, like a Debbie Downer,
3:05:27 like someone who's just like kills the vibe constantly, is always complaining,
3:05:31 is always like moaning and like, "Oh, oh, oh, wo is me.
3:05:37 Oh, this is so this and that." And like, I don't know.
3:05:40 I I've I've known a couple of people who are like, "Oh my gosh,
3:05:44 like they're just they really are just you're just like,
3:05:46 "Oh my god, like stop it.
3:05:50 you are you are just you're making this awful for everybody around you.
3:05:56 Not very often, but like I know a couple people and there are people who
3:06:00 struggle to get jobs and they're going
3:06:03 to struggle to get jobs partially because of that.
3:06:07 Um like you got to in a way it's like you got to manifest the good stuff.
3:06:12 But, you know, that sort of positive energy.
3:06:15 Again, it's not like it has to be fake or some
3:06:17 like like overly like I'm so happy all the time.
3:06:20 It's not that.
3:06:21 It's just, you know, you got to move forward.
3:06:26 It's like it meet the Robinsons.
3:06:27 Keep moving forward.
3:06:28 Like, you got to have a certain amount of like, all right, let's go.
3:06:32 Let's let's just keep move.
3:06:33 It's it's a kind of it's an emotional version
3:06:35 of discipline where you have to just kind of accept that.
3:06:41 Yeah, I'm here.
3:06:42 I'm here by choice.
3:06:43 I'm here because I want to be here.
3:06:45 I don't have to like it all the time, but like let's do it.
3:06:48 There's a certain like professional positivity that needs to exist so that you
3:06:54 can exist in that workspace and like you can continue to function.
3:07:00 Hard to explain, but like it's a it's
3:07:01 a weird nuanced thing that like it's important.
3:07:04 And then the last thing is something that I wish I had
3:07:07 more of which is just like huh the one of the best things
3:07:12 could be like being very creative and not very perfectionist and just
3:07:18 being okay to like let me just kind of throw it in there.
3:07:20 Let me just get the idea in there.
3:07:22 Like let's just get it in rough and just quick like that is so
3:07:27 beneficial to just have that creative spark
3:07:30 and to not be overly precious about it.
3:07:32 I really struggle with that.
3:07:34 that I'm such a perfectionist and I I
3:07:36 don't I don't work in traditionally creative brain ways.
3:07:40 I really struggle.
3:07:42 I have to have like other sort of mental cheats of how I
3:07:45 make myself creative because I'm not
3:07:47 just naturally creative in that particular way.
3:07:50 So it's very hard for me.
3:07:53 So I'm much more technical than I am like you know otherwise creative.
3:08:02 So, those are some of the things I would say are important.
3:08:06 How would you feel about coming back to key
3:08:08 frame animation from scratch after using accents for so long?
3:08:11 I still I still like it.
3:08:13 Um, there's certain types of shots that I'm like, this is so slow.
3:08:18 But, you know, I still really I prefer the workflows of key frame animation.
3:08:26 It depends on what I'm doing.
3:08:27 If I'm doing like body mechanic stuff and it's like not fun
3:08:30 body mechanic stuff and it's like this is not an entertaining shot.
3:08:34 This is just I need someone to move
3:08:35 around and lift something and like do this weird
3:08:39 motion where it's like it's heavy and the like it's got all this over Oh yeah,
3:08:43 like give me the mocap suit.
3:08:45 Like let me just get that crap in the computer so I can just like move forward.
3:08:51 But like lip sync facial animation like don't
3:08:54 like I don't want to touch motion capture.
3:08:56 let me in there.
3:08:57 You know, the parts that I like, I really like.
3:09:00 And so, I like coming back to key frame animation for certain things.
3:09:07 For other stuff, I could take it or leave it at this point,
3:09:12 but that's because I I usually work on again not very creative things.
3:09:16 working on more more technical stuff where it's like it's
3:09:17 really about mechanics and weight and it's it's less about
3:09:21 it's more about the physicality of something and the realism
3:09:23 of it than it is about like the entertainment value.
3:09:26 Entertainment value key frame animation totally agree with the tuition.
3:09:32 I finished a degree in graphic design
3:09:33 and not worth the money and time and effort.
3:09:36 Don't say it's useless.
3:09:39 Don't say it's useless helping you doing 3D stuff.
3:09:41 That's good.
3:09:42 That's good.
3:09:42 At least like if you're going to spend all the money on some
3:09:44 kind of a degree that's going to be like it wasn't really worth it,
3:09:46 but at least you're able to take some piece of it and and make the most of it.
3:09:50 That's good, you know?
3:09:54 I wish I spent that money on courses
3:09:55 that actually give me the same value I paid.
3:09:58 Yeah.
3:09:59 Yep.
3:10:02 Yep.
3:10:02 That's why I'm trying that's why I'm trying to get
3:10:04 the word out about my my stuff at Lightbox.
3:10:06 I'm going to be announcing a bunch of stuff that it's like, hey,
3:10:09 if you're trying to go spend a bunch of money on learning stuff,
3:10:13 you can spend a whole lot less money with me.
3:10:16 You will learn some really great stuff and then
3:10:18 if you still want to take the expensive stuff,
3:10:19 feel free, but you might not need to.
3:10:24 So, link in the description for the light
3:10:26 box stuff and the classes stuff that I'm doing.
3:10:29 And with that, I've hit the bottom of the chat.
3:10:33 Let's save the rest of the questions for next Friday
3:10:35 when we do another live stream because I'm so tired.
3:10:38 I have been awake for like at this point I've been awake for like 30 hours
3:10:42 and I've been sitting in this chair for at least
3:10:46 26 of those hours and I'm very tired.
3:10:50 So, I'd like to go to sleep now.
3:10:54 And actually, wait, I want to I want to address that.
3:10:56 You are so 100% right.
3:11:00 Your website is kind of hard to navigate.
3:11:02 Oh my god, you're so so right.
3:11:05 I hate my website right now.
3:11:07 It's so awful.
3:11:10 I actually have like a whole thing with my website
3:11:12 where like I actually have like two websites right
3:11:13 now because if you go to courses.surway.com like where
3:11:16 the link takes you that like where my course stuff is.
3:11:19 Technically there is a surveade.com but it's like really
3:11:21 old and it's on a different platform and I
3:11:22 haven't updated in years and like the whole
3:11:25 thing but like the course platform the courses way.
3:11:28 You're right.
3:11:28 My website is actually terrible right now
3:11:30 and I really should sit down and fix it,
3:11:36 but it requires a lot of time and I don't have the time.
3:11:38 I really need help.
3:11:39 If anybody knows somebody who does like web design stuff who's like really good
3:11:45 at it because the thing is like I needed to be actually really good.
3:11:48 Um, if anyone knows anybody or if anyone has that skill set,
3:11:52 you know, send me an email please.
3:11:55 I use Kajjabi as my website provider and I'm going
3:11:58 to continue to use Kajjabi as my website provider for the now.
3:12:01 But um if anyone knows anybody I don't have like a ton of budget to do
3:12:07 the website stuff so it depends on what someone's
3:12:08 charging because again that's why it's bad right now.
3:12:10 I don't have money to hire someone to fix it
3:12:12 but like I don't have the time to fix it either.
3:12:13 But I agree with you.
3:12:14 It is real rough and I need to fix it.
3:12:15 So yes, I agree.
3:12:18 Trying to do that before lightbox.
3:12:19 Fingers crossed.
3:12:22 Aweb stuff at this point.
3:12:24 Anyways, thank you all for the great questions.
3:12:29 This was actually a really fun stream for me.
3:12:31 I really enjoyed the chat, the questions, the good stuff.
3:12:35 Uh, forms stuff, Lightbox.
3:12:40 Remember, uh, message me or DM me or something if you are interested at all
3:12:43 in volunteering to help with the booth
3:12:45 in exchange for a ticket to Lightbox 3-day pass.
3:12:48 and uh or if you are an animator and you are down
3:12:51 to maybe do some reviews or something at the booth and help people out,
3:12:53 I've got some other stuff planned for you as well.
3:12:56 So, if anyone's interested, you know, send me a message.
3:12:58 But I will see you guys next Friday.
3:12:59 Not sure what time yet, but keep an eye out and we'll do another live stream.
3:13:03 So, thanks.
3:13:06 Catch you guys later.
3:13:08 Bye.