What connects Quakers and the Big Bang?
Lateral with Tom Scott
0:06 What is the similarity between the Big Bang,
0:10 the Tories, Cubism, and the Quakers?
0:13 I'll give you that one more time.
0:14 What is the similarity between the Big Bang,
0:17 the Tories, Cubism, and the Quakers?
0:20 This is almost the ideal question for me
0:22 as an art historian and a Quaker, but not a Tory.
0:25 (others giggling) And not involved...
0:28 The Big Bang.
0:29 ...in the Big Bang.
0:30 But almost half.
0:31 Two outta four ain't bad.
0:32 (laughs) Well, I am aware of the Big Bang.
0:35 Of Tories, of Cubism, and of Quakers, and— Oh, that's it.
0:39 That's the answer.
0:40 Matt's aware of them.
0:41 That's— Thank you, alright!
0:42 We'll move on to question two!
0:43 There we go.
0:44 I know there's a whole thing about Quakers not speaking much,
0:47 but I'd have to say that the Tories are certified yappers.
0:50 (blurts laugh) That's a difference.
0:52 Very, very Gen Z little slang going in there, Matt.
0:55 (giggles) Yes.
0:57 Whoa, hang on, remind me again.
0:59 It's the Big Bang, Tories, Quakers and...
1:02 Cubism.
1:03 Cubism.
1:04 Which is...
1:05 an art style where everything looks a bit odd and mixed up sometimes,
1:11 and with perspectives, as I understand it.
1:13 I mean, I'm gonna ask the art historian for a definition there.
1:16 (group chuckles) Yeah.
1:17 What is the cubism?
1:19 So, cubism was invented by Picasso and Georges Braque.
1:25 And they were basically like super, super besties.
1:29 And then they fell out and never spoke about it again.
1:31 So, so maybe there's something here about lovers' tiffs.
1:35 But fundamentally, with Cubism,
1:38 you can see the same thing from multiple perspectives at one time, so...
1:43 Which is why it all looks a bit blobby, but...
1:47 Cubism?
1:48 Maybe they all started in France.
1:50 (laughs heartily) Notoriously, the Big Bang.
1:54 It's got French energy.
1:55 (giggles) It's the centre of everything.
1:58 (laughs) (Matt and Rowan wheeze) Technically it
2:00 should be called Le Grande Bang, but...
2:02 Ah!
2:03 (guests laughing) Le Grand Pouf.
2:05 Thank you.
2:06 I was really hoping that someone would come
2:07 up with a translat— Because I started that sentence,
2:10 and by the time I got to the end of it,
2:11 I didn't have the French word for 'bang'.
2:13 (Verity and Rowan giggle) So I know obviously the Tories is not...
2:18 I'm interested in that phrase as opposed to 'conservatives',
2:21 because technically it's kind of the same
2:23 as saying like the GOP for the Republicans.
2:25 Like it's a nickname or it's another name for it.
2:27 And so I'm wondering if this is kind of like a suffragette style thing where...
2:32 it's not the original name for the thing.
2:34 It got named by someone who was in opposition to it,
2:37 or named as a nickname that wasn't meant to be good.
2:39 And then they were like, "I guess this is us now." Yes.
2:43 Yes.
2:44 Oh.
2:45 (group laughs heartily) Do you wanna talk more
2:49 about the— Do we start with the Tories there?
2:52 I'm not gonna lie to you, Tom.
2:53 I truly don't know.
2:54 This wasn't like, I knew that that was true for one of them,
2:57 and so I extrapolated.
2:57 I truly didn't know that was true for any of them.
2:59 But I was like, I just know that this is maybe something that wasn't,
3:02 'cause the big bang also, it's not necessarily like an officious
3:06 sounding thing for quite an important theory.
3:08 So yeah, that was just a guess into the darkness that turned out to be correct.
3:13 The 'Big Bang' was popularised by astronomer Fred Hoyle on BBC Radio in 1949.
3:18 He was sceptical about it.
3:19 He thought it sounded ridiculous.
3:20 Thank you, Producer David.
3:22 The Big Bang in French is 'Le Big Bang'.
3:25 Thank you.
3:26 Never!
3:26 Thank you so much.
3:27 Or alternatively, 'Le Grande Explosion'.
3:29 But 'Le Big Bang' is what people use.
3:32 You mentioned Georges Braque, Verity, who is in my notes here.
3:36 Yeah.
3:37 I also have Louis Vauxcelles.
3:39 Yeah, so he basically...
3:41 he was a writer, and then he basically named loads of art movements being like,
3:47 "I think this is no good." And then they were like, "I like the name 'no good'.
3:51 We'll use that." So he's all over the place.
3:53 Yeah, and that's what happened with Cubism.
3:55 'Tory' was originally...
3:57 I mean, it says in my notes, it's a 'slur',
4:00 which I feel is a strong term to use.
4:03 But it comes from the Irish 'tóraidhe',
4:07 which I'm probably mispronouncing, for outlaw or robber.
4:10 And— Oh, it's quite accurate then.
4:12 (cackles) And 'Quaker', I'm gonna ask the Quaker,
4:16 do you know where that name came from?
4:18 Well, it used to— back in the 17th century,
4:21 when the Quakers were founded by George Fox.
4:24 And the idea is that you sort of, you're having a think,
4:28 and then maybe you'll sort of have some sort of revelation about the way we live
4:32 and the world we live in, which can cause
4:34 you to basically have a bit of a flutter.
4:37 So I imagine it was a slightly eye-rolly, "All of this quaking they're doing.
4:41 Oh." Yep.
4:42 Quaking or trembling in a religious context.
4:45 Absolutely right, Rowan, out of nowhere, congratulations.
4:49 They all came from derisive nicknames.
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