Epstein Buddy THREAT, Missing Scientists NEW Claims & David Wilcock | Julian Dorey • 414

0:00 and said, "Listen, you know, my ex My ex, I don't like her and she is in prison

0:06 for fraud and she is not of the green card papers.

0:09 You get her out of country." That's probably what he said,

0:12 maybe in the accent, maybe not.

0:13 I don't know.

0:14 I don't know.

0:15 We're going to find out in a video in a minute.

0:17 But listen, in the words of the great Selena Gomez,

0:20 if you want to come and get it, Paola.

0:22 We got receipts.

0:23 We've said what we got to say and I'm not going to back down along with again,

0:28 the thousands of other people who are sitting in the same seat we are right now.

0:33 We're not going to back down from looking at the evidence

0:36 and also discussing allegations and saying when things are pure spec.

0:43 What's up, everybody?

0:44 Welcome back to another episode of The Julian Dorey Podcast.

0:47 I am Julian Dorey.

0:48 And I'm Joey D.

0:50 How you doing?

0:51 Well, D, we got nothing on the schedule today except

0:54 maybe we're getting sued along with thousands of other people.

0:58 Litigations?

1:00 litigation, little litty.

1:02 Oh,[ __]

1:03 Getting a little lit up here in Hoboken and it's not just us.

1:05 It's a lot of people in three different countries.

1:07 More on that in a few seconds.

1:08 We are also going to talk about our dear friend,

1:12 and by dear friend, I mean insufferable[ __] Ghislaine Maxwell.

1:16 There's a little bit of that in the news this week that certainly

1:19 needs to address because don't you think that went really under the radar?

1:23 Like everything, D?

1:24 It's just classic biz.

1:26 Classic biz.

1:26 Seriously, it is.

1:27 It really is.

1:28 You put Blanche in there, do a little busy biz.

1:31 Yeah.

1:31 Right.

1:32 Got you.

1:32 She's an asset now.

1:34 An Oh, she's an asset.

1:36 Well, you know, we got we got to you know, pardon this lady.

1:38 She's an asset.

1:39 She can give us some good information.

1:41 Great information.

1:42 Come on, biz, dude.

1:43 That's right.

1:44 That's right.

1:44 That's just pure spec on that.

1:46 Yeah, just pure spec.

1:47 Pure spec.

1:47 Pure spec.

1:48 Anyway, I also did promise we were going

1:50 to go through the Bilderberg thing this week.

1:51 I'm sorry to blue balls everyone on that last week.

1:54 We were just ripping on a few other things and ran out of time,

1:57 so we will do that towards the top.

1:59 And then, yes, if you saw the latest episode number 413 with Lauren Conlin,

2:05 she came in here for 3 hours and continued

2:08 to break down the missing scientist case with us.

2:10 She has been on this like since the jump,

2:12 has been talking to family members around the country

2:15 who are related to some of these people.

2:17 Also is doing a great job of separating some

2:19 fact from fiction and ruling out some of these people,

2:24 for lack of a better way of putting it, who probably aren't connected while also

2:27 taking seriously things that could be connected,

2:29 but there is more news hitting all over the place

2:33 with that, and we're going to get to some of that today,

2:35 as well as some of the new claims that are, in my opinion,[ __] as well.

2:40 So, this going to be a mix.

2:41 Going to be a mix on that.

2:42 So, we got that on the schedule,

2:44 and then maybe a couple other things if we get to it.

2:47 I don't want to promise stuff that we're going to run out of time on, but

2:49 can't blue balls.

2:50 Beef, let's start with the the man of the hour.

2:53 Yeah.

2:54 I did a friend of Paolo Zampolli.

2:56 Mio amico.

2:57 So, Paolo Zampolli, who has absolutely no Twitter PR game,

3:02 decided to take to Twitter this week with the following announcement,

3:06 where he put in the caption basically

3:09 what's said in the screenshot there as well.

3:10 So, I will read it, and you guys can see it on the screen.

3:12 "Second notice to all media outlets.

3:15 We confirm that legal actions" Should I read this in his accent, Beef?

3:19 No, read it read it read it straight.

3:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:22 Okay.

3:22 Yeah.

3:22 "We confirm that legal actions

3:24 are currently underway across multiple jurisdictions,

3:27 including the United States, Italy, and Brazil.

3:30 Our legal team is actively identifying and pursuing all individuals, entities,

3:34 and accounts involved in the dissemination of false,

3:36 misleading, or defamatory content.

3:38 Any media outlet or individual that publishes, supports,

3:42 or amplifies such content will be included in a class action

3:47 lawsuit and held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

3:49 As I said, this is targeting thousands of people and organizations.

3:54 We are just potentially potentially one of them.

3:57 So, what Dave and I decided to do was just go check as a quick

4:02 bullet rehash from the last two episodes

4:05 when we've been focusing on our friend Paulo.

4:07 Yeah.

4:08 All of the claims that were made as well as the things,

4:11 the commentary we had around it, anywhere where we said pure spec,

4:15 hashtag pure spec, which means pure speculation.

4:17 Which that that that that's immunity.

4:20 As soon as you hear pure spec Yeah.

4:22 Just saying.

4:23 It is immunity.

4:24 Just get out By the way, Dave, I didn't even we didn't check this before,

4:27 but I'm just thinking of this.

4:28 Isn't there some kind of law related to public figures being

4:35 uh people employed in the public sphere like in the government Uh-huh.

4:40 being fully on the table as what's the term I'm

4:45 looking There's like a legal term I'm thinking of right now,

4:47 but for satire, for fodder, for criticism, It's like charity law.

4:53 All these things, right?

4:54 There's There's laws related to being able to go at that.

4:56 So, to be clear, there's nothing we said that is not fully

5:03 backed by the Epstein files themselves or let me be even more specific

5:09 by things surrounding the Epstein files

5:11 like journalist posted with his consent New

5:14 York Post articles as pointed out by Twitter's Kaz Catherine with full receipts.

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5:43 Just as a as a very quick rehash cuz you guys who have heard the last

5:46 two episodes have heard this, but for people

5:48 who are just catching up, here's what we had.

5:50 Number one, Zampolli linked to Jeffrey Epstein

5:53 and has previously done business with him.

5:55 That is backed with quite literal proof.

5:58 I'm going to get to Paolo's own words on that in a minute,

6:00 but if there was also an email,

6:02 by the way, of young Jeffrey Epstein discussing Mr.

6:06 Zampolli years after some of their business arrangements.

6:09 Just want to make sure I hit this.

6:10 Classic.

6:11 Zampolli Epstein sent an email on February 15th, 2011, fresh out the pen,

6:16 as they would say, to Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, who sounds Who's that?

6:23 Well, What does he do?

6:25 He's either a prince or a cab driver.

6:27 Anyway, he says, "Be careful.

6:30 Zampolli is trouble.

6:32 Lots." Jeffrey Epstein's calling you trouble, bro.

6:36 That's not It's not a great look.

6:38 Not a great look.

6:38 But anyway, he has well-documented ties to Jeffrey

6:42 Epstein when he was in charge of ID Models, he being Paolo Zampolli.

6:47 That is on the public record.

6:49 The one thing that we said as pure spec based

6:52 on all of the litany of evidence surrounding this guy, Paolo,

6:58 and his interactions with Epstein, more of which I'm going to cover in a minute,

7:02 was the idea that he was trafficking models to Epstein.

7:08 There is certainly a lot of evidence to support

7:10 that, but he has never been convicted in a court of law,

7:14 and we made very clear that that was speculation on our end.

7:18 So, to the future judge watching this, your honor,

7:21 I I'm sorry you have to lose brain cells listening to me,

7:24 but I want to be very clear.

7:26 We made that clear then, we're making that clear now.

7:29 Mr.

7:29 Zampolli has never been convicted of any such offense.

7:33 It's just a lot of smoke around a fire, and we're allowed to comment on that.

7:37 That's in the public domain.

7:38 Anyway, Your honor, my client is Chinese.

7:41 That's right.

7:42 Throw it away.

7:43 All right.

7:43 Okay.

7:45 Probably didn't help, but okay.

7:46 So, number three, they did try buying Elite Model Management together.

7:51 More on that that we haven't covered coming in a minute from Mr.

7:55 Zampolli is on the mouth.

7:57 Anyway, number four, Paolo in I as an ID model as the head

8:02 of ID models appeared in page six multiple times a year,

8:04 sometimes multiple times a month per again

8:07 Kazoo Catherine on X who brought the receipts.

8:10 We put that in the last episode.

8:12 I think we have one up thieves,

8:14 so we'll have that again right here, but this includes November 1999.

8:19 Zampolli had journalist Jared Paul Stern write about a night

8:22 out where Zampolli introduced him to quote his latest discovery unquote,

8:25 a 17-year-old girl who had just arrived

8:27 from Australia only in New York at that point.

8:31 There was also a claim in that document

8:33 referring to a 15-year-old in in a separate article

8:37 from the same era where Zampolli spotted a 15-year-old

8:40 ninth grader still attending high school in Miami.

8:42 The paper described her as and this is

8:44 the New York Post making this description,

8:46 not Paolo Zampolli, as about to become

8:49 quote the world's most popular ninth grader unquote.

8:52 These are real things backed by full documents.

8:55 There is the screenshot once again.

8:57 We love having evidence.

9:00 If you if again, I said this last week.

9:02 If you zoom in on the inspirational bar hopping article right there,

9:05 you can see all these things quoted out.

9:07 It's it's really beautiful.

9:09 That's the great thing about evidence.

9:11 There was also more Kazoo Catherine content we had cited where it talked about

9:15 the core four that Epstein had referring

9:19 to the core four women recruiters that he had

9:22 were also tied to Zampolli at the very least Adriana Muchinska who in 2006 while

9:29 being verified as working for Jeffrey Epstein

9:31 at that time and in a legal capacity,

9:33 I might add, was on the ID models payroll at the same time.

9:37 This is in the public record cuz you Catherine also had the EFA

9:41 number number number document or And and the original article right here.

9:45 I just pulled up on the screen.

9:47 Love that.

9:47 That's great work.

9:48 Seriously, shout out Kaz Catherine on Twitter.

9:51 You can go follow her over there.

9:52 So, when we're citing that kind of stuff, obviously,

9:55 that's backed to research and I really appreciate that.

9:58 There was also the allegations report, which we made very clear.

10:02 I want to say this was around the 25 minute timestamp last week.

10:07 We made very very clear that these are allegations that have not been,

10:11 as far as I can tell, pursued in criminal court where in 2003

10:15 there were allegations against Paolo Zampolli

10:18 having had a sexual assault at his hands that he did upon someone else.

10:24 I forget what her name It was It was

10:26 a Beckett they reported her name was Victoria Drake.

10:28 Yeah, you got it.

10:29 They've perfect.

10:30 So, anyway, we also talked about how it was like weird

10:35 diplomatic immunity claims because something

10:38 occurred at the Department of State.

10:40 Yeah, we got into that.

10:41 It got diplo- diplomatic immunity claims,

10:44 but then his position wouldn't give him diplomatic immunity.

10:47 He was involved with Dominica at that time.

10:49 So, there was a lot of weird stuff going on.

10:51 All of which we do have the claims and backing for Correct.

10:57 And there was also through that the revelation that in addition to all

11:03 of his duties as one of the world's

11:06 preeminent modeling agencies finding talent around the world,

11:10 apparently including 15-year-olds.

11:11 So, you know, that's That is what the New York Post said.

11:14 So, we'll reference that.

11:16 You know, he also had time to be

11:18 the ambassador for the oceans and the high seas.

11:21 Was that what it was called?

11:22 oceans and the high seas.

11:23 great nation of Dominica,

11:25 which you and I had definitely heard of before last week.

11:29 Give yourself that credit.

11:30 But, he was doing that as far back as October 2013 and by 20 fall 2023 when

11:38 those allegations came in, he was allegedly no longer

11:42 acting in that capacity as of earlier that year,

11:45 which would question any type of immunity he might have.

11:49 Again, like who the[ __] has immunity?

11:51 weird in a place like that from a crime

11:53 for a crime that is alleged to be what it was.

11:55 It's certainly very questionable.

11:57 But, then two episodes ago, the reason Paolo Zampolli, our dear friend,

12:02 came up is because of his ex-wife, Amanda Ungaro, who is in I believe,

12:08 it's reported Rio de Janeiro right now

12:10 after she was deported before facing trial for alleged felony fraud claim claims

12:16 in America at the behest of Paolo Zampolli, who called a senior official at ICE,

12:21 and these are according to many reports online from various outlets.

12:25 So, again, might not be true, but this is what people are reporting.

12:29 Paolo Zampolli, who is What's the name

12:32 of that title again in the in the organization?

12:34 Um special representative for global you know partnerships.

12:41 partnerships.

12:41 Right.

12:41 That's his official designation in the Trump

12:44 administration because people that Jeffrey Epstein finds

12:46 to be trouble are just perfect to be

12:48 hired into our government with our taxpayer dollars.

12:50 Anyway, so we are going off the allegations of these reports, as we said.

12:57 But, he allegedly called a senior official at ICE and said, "Listen, you know,

13:01 my ex My ex, I don't like her and she is in prison for fraud.

13:06 And she is not of the green card the papers.

13:09 You get her out of country." That's probably what he said,

13:12 maybe in the accent, maybe not.

13:13 I don't know.

13:14 I don't know.

13:15 We're going to find out in a video in a minute.

13:17 But, listen, in the words of the great Selena Gomez,

13:20 if you want it, come and get it, Paolo.

13:22 We got receipts.

13:23 We've said what we got to say,

13:25 and I'm not going to back down along with again the thousands

13:29 of other people who are sitting in the same seat we are right now.

13:33 We're not going to back down from looking at the evidence

13:36 and also discussing allegations and saying when things are pure spec.

13:41 We we do a very very diligent job of that around here and I know all

13:46 of our friends in the audience who constantly

13:48 comment pure spec are well aware of that.

13:50 So thank you to you guys for listening very closely when we do that.

13:55 I was thanking them.

13:56 Yeah.

13:56 I I I saw that.

13:57 It's just spec, dude.

13:58 It's pure spec, Paolo.

14:00 Right.

14:00 So Steve, I've got a couple videos right there.

14:05 Zampolli.

14:06 The first thing is Zampolli himself and he's speaking in Italian.

14:10 So we're going to go with some of the captions right here.

14:12 If you go up, I just want to read to people before they hear him talk.

14:16 This is again from Kaz Catherine giving a great write-up

14:20 of the explanation of this interview that he is doing with RAI report,

14:29 I guess it's called.

14:31 TV, yeah.

14:31 Right.

14:32 So Paolo Zampolli told Italian national television, this is from Kaz Catherine,

14:35 that he knew Epstein had very, quote, young girls, minors, masseuses, unquote.

14:42 And I want to make clear he's saying minors.

14:47 It'd be one thing to say young girls.

14:48 People would say, "Well, maybe he's talking about 21-year-olds." Then he says,

14:51 "Minors." So he is admitting that he knew Jeffrey Epstein had minors.

14:55 This is a man, I remind you,

14:57 he was involved in some level of at least potential business with.

15:01 And I knew I knew he had girls.

15:03 I knew, but they weren't mine because they weren't even models.

15:06 They were young girls, minors, masseuses.

15:08 The models were a cover-up for this Epstein.

15:12 Erano le ragazzine minorenni massag Massaggiatrici.

15:19 I actually I that word.

15:20 That's a new one for me.

15:21 There are four admissions in one statement.

15:23 He knew Epstein had girls, not suspected, not heard rumors, subpevo.

15:27 He knew.

15:28 He knew that they were minors.

15:29 He did not use don e ragazze.

15:31 He chose ragazzine, the Italian diminutive for young girls,

15:35 then clarified with minore di anni, the legal term for under 18.

15:40 The literal legal term, I might add, in Italy.

15:43 He knew what they were there for.

15:45 Massaggiatrici, we don't That means masseuses.

15:48 This is what the exact euphemism in Palm Beach police

15:51 reports in the 2007 non-prosecution agreement in the Maxwell trial said.

15:55 Anyone near Epstein's operation knew what massage meant.

15:58 By using the words, Zampoli confirmed he did, too.

16:01 He described the structure.

16:02 Le modelle erano un cover-up.

16:05 The models were a cover-up.

16:06 You do not describe something as a cover-up

16:08 unless you understand what is being covered.

16:11 Where I might Let me Let me be fair

16:15 and make an argument for Paolo Zampoli right here.

16:18 He may be referring to that legally and in the past tense,

16:23 meaning he knows now it's a cover-up.

16:27 No, I think perspect.

16:28 Perspect.

16:29 I think he knew back then.

16:31 But in a court of law, I know he can afford a good attorney.

16:35 They could very easily make that argument.

16:38 He's He's referring to in the past.

16:40 I'm sure he can hire Dershowitz, right?

16:42 He can afford that bill.

16:43 Yeah.

16:43 Alan will argue this case all day.

16:45 He loves these cases.

16:46 He loves So, let's just go down a little bit and get him in his own words.

16:52 So that people can see.

16:53 I just want I want people to get a feel for how Paolo interacts.

16:58 Hello.

17:17 That's him saying what we just described he was saying.

17:19 There's another video there, Dave,

17:22 I have where he talked specifically about the Elite

17:24 Model Management claim when Jeffrey Epstein and and Paolo

17:29 in 2004 allegedly made an effort as a part

17:32 of a partnership which may have included other people.

17:34 I don't remember that detail, so let's be conservative and say it did.

17:37 It wasn't just the two of them.

17:40 Might have been just the two of them,

17:41 but I don't remember that, so let's be clear.

17:42 Could be more.

17:43 But there was at least a partnership group

17:45 that involved the two of them where they

17:46 tried to buy Elite Model Management in 2004 and let's see what he had to say.

17:53 Are there I forget.

17:55 Let's see.

17:56 Are there subtitles on this?

18:04 Epstein came to me because he wouldn't be able to buy it on his own.

18:09 Because there were requirements for the buyer.

18:13 Had to be someone in the industry.

18:15 It couldn't just be a fund.

18:18 And he talked to me about it.

18:20 Then the whole thing fizzled.

18:23 He didn't buy it and I lost a bid.

18:26 There you go.

18:27 All right, that's enough right there.

18:28 So again, he is confirming that that is a real thing.

18:33 So we have that.

18:37 Dave, any final words for Paolo?

18:41 Arrivederci.

18:46 All I'll say is vaffanculo a persona che

18:49 sicuramente ha fatto niente di male con Epstein.

18:54 That's some good stuff.

18:56 All right.

18:57 I just don't I I I really got a problem

19:01 with people who clearly have done stupid things in the past, okay?

19:09 Let's not even call call criminal.

19:11 Let's call it be conservative and call it stupid.

19:14 Stupid associations, bad biz, all these types of things.

19:19 I have a real problem with those people

19:22 then finding a way to fail their way upward.

19:26 And upon failing their way upward, getting into positions of elite power,

19:30 even if it is a prestige worldwide sounding title he has in the White House.

19:33 He's at least flying next to J.D.

19:35 Vance to Iran[ __] talks.

19:37 Yeah, he gets the perks.

19:38 He gets the perks.

19:39 Yeah.

19:39 I have a problem with people like that taking their big[ __] boot,

19:43 no pun intended to the great nation of Italy,

19:45 and trying to stamp it down on people's faces for pointing out their past

19:49 stupidity that they're trying to run from while

19:52 hiding behind the power that they have.

19:55 So, we will always call that out and I don't know.

19:59 This guy really just pisses me off.

20:01 Really, really Something really, really skeevy about him and wrong.

20:05 And like I said, when Jeffrey Epstein's calling you trouble, Not good for biz.

20:12 Not good for biz.

20:14 the least.

20:15 Anyway, Ghislaine, think she's getting pardoned?

20:21 Uh, dude,[ __] Um, uh, I'm trying to be a positive guy,

20:26 but I just it's just not It hasn't been looking good.

20:29 I think she I think I think she's going to get the pardon, yeah.

20:32 I heard this week this might be total total spec.

20:36 but check this cuz I just thought of this.

20:39 Someone said she's allowed to have a dog in prison.

20:44 That might be completely made up.

20:46 What that dog know?

20:47 But I saw that in the background of my mind.

20:51 She was allowed to play with a service dog at her minimum security prison.

20:56 All right, that's not the same.

20:57 See, there you go.

20:58 And then she got banned from the official puppy training program.

21:02 good.

21:03 I appreciate that.

21:04 I didn't know we had those in prison.

21:05 We're having prisoners train the dogs, huh?

21:08 Well, I knew about that, but like the the claim of owning a dog in prison,

21:12 that would have been a bridge too far for me.

21:14 But, she was moved from her prison, as we well know,

21:17 months ago into a minimum security facility with all

21:20 kinds of perks after having a meeting with Trump's

21:24 Justice Department in 2025 discussing all kinds of things

21:27 behind closed door about Epstein with one Todd Blanche,

21:30 who now happens to be, at the time of this recording,

21:32 the acting Attorney General of the United States, who we've covered this.

21:37 He he doesn't know about any claims related to Mr.

21:40 Epstein and sex trafficking women and, you know,

21:44 and if he did, he would tell you.

21:46 Nothing to see here, folks, but it Let's go to this first one.

21:49 Ghislaine Maxwell sent a USB to the DOJ shortly after Melania,

21:56 who was in the emails with Ghislaine,

21:57 we've covered that in the past, came out with her statement.

22:01 So, let's go down.

22:01 This is from The Daily Beast, right?

22:04 Yeah, there is.

22:04 Okay.

22:05 So, Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell,

22:07 sent a mystery USB drive to the Justice Department days after

22:10 Melania Trump sought to distance herself from the pair's heinous sex crimes.

22:14 The disgraced former socialite sent the USB

22:16 on April 16th in a fresh attempt to quash

22:18 her criminal conviction and 20-year jail sentence

22:21 for helping Epstein recruit and abuse women and girls.

22:24 While the details of the electronic files are not known, the timing of it,

22:27 7 days after the first lady delivered

22:29 a surprise statement about Epstein and Maxwell,

22:31 raised eyebrows across Washington.

22:33 In her April 9th statement, Melania Trump denied any ties to Epstein's crimes

22:36 and demanded that lies being spread about her must end.

22:39 All right, let's go down.

22:40 I'm going to skip some of this.

22:42 So, goes through her email with Ghislaine.

22:45 In a letter to Federal Judge Paul Engelmayer, Clayton I'm sorry,

22:49 the mysterious USB was received this week by Trump prosecutor Jay Clayton,

22:52 the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York,

22:55 who Henry Abbott I think on camera had something to say about.

22:59 In a letter to Federal Judge Paul Engelmayer,

23:02 Clayton confirmed receipt of the package and asked the court

23:05 to give the government until June 5th to file a response.

23:08 He did not outline details of the material Maxwell sent,

23:11 but noted that her arguments appeared to be duplicative and meritless.

23:14 Credit where it's due.

23:16 I appreciate him saying that.

23:17 Let's see if they end up backing that up and sticking to that.

23:19 According to Clayton,

23:20 Maxwell also cited about 50 exhibits to support her claims,

23:23 but only 33 were included in the package.

23:26 Come on, that's bad biz lawyers.

23:29 You got to do better than that.

23:32 And he describes the initial review, yada yada yada.

23:36 Okay, nothing else to see there.

23:39 Basically, she trying to get out.

23:41 The second link I have there, I'm sorry, third link is from Comer.

23:46 So, this is where it starts to get You don't want this second one?

23:50 interesting.

23:51 I I don't need the second one because it it the Daily Beast just covered it.

23:56 But US House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer says some panel members,

24:02 Now, this is in Congress.

24:04 Uh biz.

24:05 are open to US President Donald Trump pardoning, not commuting, pardoning, Dude.

24:14 Ghislaine Maxwell to secure her cooperation in the Epstein investigation.

24:21 That's why I say it, dude.

24:22 Secure asset.

24:25 We got Listen, we got to do this for her.

24:27 She's going to be helping us.

24:29 This is a security issue.

24:32 Uh biz.

24:34 Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, as we well know at this point,

24:37 is former scumbag super spy Robert Maxwell,

24:42 who died in very mysterious circumstances in 1992.

24:46 they all do.

24:47 1991, I'm sorry.

24:48 As they all do.

24:49 As they all do, Dave.

24:50 But Ghislaine Maxwell, since before her father's death,

24:54 but very specifically shortly after her father's

24:57 death was by Jeffrey Epstein's side.

25:01 She was the chief recruiter of all victims of all ages from the lowest you know,

25:09 most disgusting acts all the way to women who were of age who then got raped.

25:14 This is a woman who referred to the 12 to 14 year old girls that she

25:19 would recruit in West Palm Beach for massages

25:23 where they would be assaulted as new vials.

25:26 She viewed them as human trash.

25:28 This is a woman who had a clear sickness and also took part,

25:32 according to many victims, in some of the sexual assaults.

25:35 I believe the Farmer sisters, if I remember correctly,

25:38 were among some of the people who

25:40 behind their names have officially made that claim.

25:43 I want to say Annie Farmer, the younger sister, made that claim,

25:46 but I'm remembering that off the top of my head,

25:48 so please check me in the comments on that.

25:50 This is a woman who has serious ties to being an espionage spy.

26:01 Which means the same thing, obviously.

26:03 But someone who traveled the world, gallivanted around the world,

26:08 connecting with the most powerful people and getting them into situations

26:12 where beyond just taking pictures with them to blackmail them,

26:15 where they would actually then commit heinous

26:17 acts and be blackmailable targets for whatever means

26:25 for whatever end goals she and the people she worked for had behind the scenes.

26:31 This is a woman who was convicted in December

26:35 2021 for sex trafficking girls and women to no one,

26:42 according to the government, as you know,

26:46 the semantics of that case ended up playing out.

26:48 Nonetheless, she was convicted.

26:50 And a woman who no doubt had access to at least some of the largest secrets.

26:59 I would I don't think I'm being exaggerating saying this.

27:04 Some of the largest known secrets to mankind that exist today.

27:10 For all of the lack of justice in this case and the lack of prosecutions

27:15 and the lack of any ability to give the American people what we deserve,

27:19 which is the ability for to see powerful individuals answer for their heinous

27:25 crimes and prevent something like this from ever stop from ever happening again.

27:30 And it In addition to that slap in the face,

27:33 if they pardoned this woman, Jeffrey Epstein's right-hand woman,

27:40 it would be one of the most abysmal, disgusting,

27:45 clear-in-your-face inside jobs ever perpetuated upon the American public

27:51 and for that matter the public of the world.

27:54 And so I say unequivocally,

27:58 I don't give a[ __] what information she promises she could give.

28:05 I don't care what administration is in charge

28:07 when and if something like this happens.

28:10 If Ghislaine Maxwell is pardoned, it is not only a total disgrace.

28:16 That is a That is a middle finger the likes

28:21 of which are in a line with let them eat cake.

28:24 If you know, you know.

28:30 Annie Farmer weighed in on this, Steve.

28:32 I have that quote.

28:33 I think a victim should be heard on this and I'm that's why I'm remembering.

28:37 I believe she was literally assaulted by Ghislaine Maxwell herself,

28:41 which makes this even more powerful.

28:44 But she said, "Before you consider a pardon

28:47 of a convicted sex offender and trafficker,

28:48 imagine explaining it to your wife, sister, or daughter.

28:51 Could you live with knowing that you've chosen to put a felon who recruited,

28:54 groomed, and threatened underage girls and young women above survivors?

28:58 My sister, Maria Farmer, risked everything to report Ghislaine Maxwell,

29:01 and I was asked by our government to be a witness against Maxwell at trial.

29:04 A pardon is profoundly insulting and a deep betrayal.

29:07 In the clearest terms possible, this move would be detrimental to her survivors.

29:11 We ask the Department of Justice to permanently close

29:13 the door on any pardon commutation for Maxwell and instead

29:16 open the door on a criminal investigation

29:19 into the into the enablers of Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell's abuse.

29:22 I retweet every single thing she said there.

29:24 That was perfectly said from someone who had to see this horror up front.

29:32 Yeah, it's crazy.

29:33 If she gets pardoned, that's the end of law as we know it.

29:40 That's But if she does get pardoned,

29:41 something tells me Alan Dershowitz is going to be around that case.

29:44 Best believe that.

29:45 That's pure spec, but something tells me he's got a direct

29:50 line to the people that would be involved in such a thing.

29:53 And Alan Dershowitz this week Mhm.

29:56 made the news again.

29:58 As he finds a way to do,

29:59 finds his way into the middle of every story, don't he, Dave?

30:01 Yeah, he knows good biz.

30:03 He knows how to get it rolling and get it rocking.

30:06 You got to go straight to the press.

30:08 He knows the playbook.

30:09 He does know the press playbook, for sure.

30:11 Certainly, a a PR[ __] if you will.

30:16 No insult intended.

30:18 It's just pure spec that he's a PR[ __] but apparently, you have to say that.

30:22 People are very litigious, Dave.

30:24 Yeah.

30:24 scary around here.

30:25 It's like a trigger warning, but it's a pure spec warning.

30:28 Yes, this show is satire.

30:29 Yeah.

30:31 Alan Dershowitz registered as a Republican, according to himself.

30:36 And you know, he said the quiet part out loud when he did this.

30:40 He listed off every way in which he is,

30:43 according to every domestic form of policy,

30:47 a liberal democrat, but said he had to register Republican for one reason.

30:53 You want to take a guess what that reason was, Dave?

30:55 Uh I can guess that it has to do with a country in the Middle East.

31:00 That's right.

31:00 A country that's not America.

31:01 Israel.

31:03 He said that the left has become synonymous with the worst

31:06 policy for the safety and security of the country of Israel,

31:09 which is not America and is not the country that he was born in.

31:12 And because the right wing seems to be

31:14 so perfectly still bought off by Israel's interest, just follow the money there,

31:21 he's decided that that alone is enough for him to register Republican.

31:25 It hearkens back to the late great Sheldon Adelson.

31:30 Dave, whose wife Miriam is still around, but Sheldon Adelson once said he has

31:34 one issue and one political issue only, Israel.

31:39 But he was the biggest Republican donor of all time,

31:41 or one of them, I should say.

31:44 You know, I I I just stuff like that is indefensible.

31:48 You see the poll numbers on people below age 50 on the left and right,

31:54 and how they feel about the government of Israel

31:56 and their actions and their influence in America,

32:00 and attempt to influence America.

32:03 Yeah.

32:04 Numbers aren't looking good, people.

32:06 So, at some point, you're going to have to read the room because

32:14 especially the longer wars go on, wars that are not in our interest,

32:19 which seem to happen again and again and again,

32:21 you know, even older people are going to wake up,

32:24 and we went through a poll a couple

32:25 weeks ago where some of that's already happening.

32:27 And when you're talking about older people,

32:29 people in their 60s whose entire lives

32:31 they've been propagandized to believe like Israel good,

32:34 everyone else over there bad, You know, when some of them aren't even waking up,

32:43 that's that's that's not a good harbinger if if you're

32:46 in the interest of the safety and security of Israel like Alan Dershowitz.

32:51 I wish no ill will towards any country.

32:54 I also don't wish any ill will between countries, completely unnecessary,

32:59 unnecessarily where civilians are being killed

33:02 in the tens of thousands as a result.

33:04 And right now, we see that happening with Israel.

33:07 Also, I I I had this for the end Dave to maybe get to, but let's pull it up.

33:11 There's a link there.

33:12 The White House official explanation of Operation Epic Fury in Iran

33:18 quite literally wrote the quiet part out loud, if you will.

33:22 I mean, we already knew this.

33:23 They've all Marco Rubio said this out loud when we did it.

33:26 Mike Johnson said it out loud.

33:27 Donald Trump all but said it out loud.

33:30 But literally within the explanation of the war

33:33 on state.gov/release/whatever, da da da da da.

33:37 I'm going to read this word for word.

33:38 Epic Fury is only the latest round

33:40 of an ongoing international armed conflict with Iran.

33:42 As the United States has explained

33:44 in multiple letters to the UN Security Council,

33:46 including most recently on March 10th.

33:48 This is what they choose to lead with.

33:50 The United States is engaged in this conflict

33:53 at the request of and in the collective self-interest,

33:57 self-defense of its Israeli ally.

34:01 As well as to exercise the United States own inherent right of self-defense.

34:04 That's just a little fun right there.

34:09 Now, you see the influence some of these guys have,

34:11 and you see them saying these things out loud

34:13 like Dershowitz who's got direct line to the White House.

34:16 And you know, I if if we get to it later,

34:19 we'll talk about the Wall Street Journal report

34:23 on some of the influence with this war.

34:25 And I say it like that because

34:27 the Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch,

34:29 who is a very very strong pro-Israel guy who is one

34:34 of the two people that was listed in the New York

34:36 Times report several of couple weeks ago as being the key

34:41 drivers behind the scenes trying to convince Trump to attack Iran.

34:45 And those two people were Benjamin Netanyahu and Rupert Murdoch.

34:49 So when the Wall Street Journal is reporting some of this stuff,

34:52 whose literal owner is in the can for the opposite, open your eyes on that.

34:58 But yeah, congratulations down dirt what's on your new identification,

35:02 whatever that means, and I wish you all the best.

35:05 Also, one last thing before we get

35:06 to Bilderberg and then the missing scientist, Steve.

35:10 So we we have a new Fed chair coming in.

35:13 Oh, is is is he a good guy?

35:14 They run a vet on him?

35:16 You know, let me be really clear.

35:18 I don't know.

35:20 I I I don't know.

35:21 I Kevin Warsh, I wouldn't know him if I crossed him in the street.

35:25 I haven't gone and looked at his old monetary policy in detail

35:29 from when he was at believe on the Federal Reserve Board.

35:32 I hope I got that right, but he wasn't in charge of the Fed,

35:34 but I believe he was on the board.

35:36 I don't remember any of his policies.

35:38 I can't tell you if he's good, bad, or indifferent in that way.

35:41 Couldn't tell you if he's a great guy

35:42 behind the scenes or bad guy behind the scenes.

35:44 No idea.

35:45 But what I can tell you is again, I've said this again and again.

35:49 The optics of the Trump administration in their hirings is laughably bad.

35:56 Like Biden's was so bad we would get people that didn't

35:59 even identify as a gender in[ __] roles with the nuclear codes,

36:03 and then they'd end up stealing luggage at airports, if you know, you know.

36:07 This is in a different way bad.

36:10 And it whether it's a Palozampoli or whether it's a Kevin Warsh.

36:14 Kevin Warsh's father-in-law is Ronald Lauder.

36:18 It's first name is Ronald, right?

36:20 Who's the head of Estee Lauder,

36:22 who is also the head of Can we pull it up, Steve?

36:25 I don't want to get the name wrong.

36:28 The international something He's a He's a very very pro-Israel guy.

36:34 He is the head of an organization that was Let's Let's pull it up.

36:39 I don't even want to I don't want to[ __] around with this.

36:43 I'll have it wrong.

36:44 Robert Warsh?

36:46 No, it's going to be Ron Ronald Lauder from Estee Lauder.

36:52 Whew.

36:55 Yeah, I got president of the World Jewish Congress.

36:58 That's what it is.

36:58 Sorry, I should have had that, people.

37:00 And among the people on the board there

37:04 are David de Rothschild The jokes write themselves, people.

37:09 Like again, Kevin Warsh might have nothing to do with it.

37:14 Might have nothing to do with it.

37:15 Might not listen to his father-in-law at all.

37:18 I know a lot of people don't like their in-laws.

37:20 But like the optics of that when you're in the middle of people

37:25 looking at this[ __] more than ever to put this guy out there optically.

37:30 No disrespect to Kevin.

37:32 Maybe he's a nice guy.

37:33 It's just not smart.

37:35 Or as Dief would say, bad biz.

37:37 It's bad biz.

37:39 Really really really bad biz.

37:41 I think it's just part of it though.

37:43 I think they got to just get everybody that's

37:45 in the circle in where they can you know.

37:49 And it doesn't help pure spec, just saying.

37:51 It's pure spec, but it doesn't help that it's also the Fed, which is this Yeah.

37:55 viewed as a disastrous institution that people got a lot of thoughts about,

38:00 including its inception back in 1913,

38:02 and they are right to have some of these thoughts.

38:04 It is a place that has been responsible for inflating away the wealth of people,

38:10 particularly since the 1970s, coming off the gold standard for decades now.

38:15 Yeah.

38:15 And is a part of whether it's on purpose or not is up to you to decide,

38:20 but is a part of the basic what I would describe in phraseology

38:25 as legislating away of the middle class in the United States slowly but surely.

38:30 I've always referred to the Steven Pinker

38:33 chart from Enlightenment Now in his book

38:37 back in 2018 where he shows the separation of the middle class.

38:41 And Steven Pinker, of course,

38:42 is in the Epstein files cuz[ __] everyone's in the Epstein files, god damn it.

38:46 I just think that once they get all their folks

38:48 in, then they can engineer another crisis if they need to.

38:51 If they need to.

38:52 Just in time for midterms or whatever it be.

38:55 I don't blame you for thinking that.

38:56 And speaking of engineering crisis, that God, you didn't even plan that.

39:00 That was great.

39:01 There was There was a There was a crisis meeting.

39:04 This is what I blue balls people with last week.

39:05 There was a crisis meeting in Washington, D.C.

39:08 no less of the Bilderberg Group a week and a half ago.

39:14 And there was only one As far as I could tell,

39:17 only one journalist outside this hotel in Washington, D.C.

39:23 that was surrounded by a fence for a long time.

39:25 More on that in a second.

39:27 There was only one journalist covering this, and I

39:29 want to give this guy a huge shout out.

39:30 Dan Dicks from Press for Truth, a Canadian independent journalist.

39:34 Wasn't even from America.

39:35 Flew into our country to do this.

39:37 Shout out Respect.

39:38 to Dan Dicks.

39:39 And he was taking videos all week,

39:41 but this was the first time in 33 years There's that number again, Beef.

39:47 where as far as anyone can tell

39:49 from reporting the Bilderberg had had their meeting,

39:52 I guess, moved up and viewed it as a crisis meeting.

39:56 And Dan Dicks was there with the scoop,

39:58 including he was taking videos from far away yelling at like Alex Karp,

40:02 who was apparently is a member of Bilderberg

40:05 and was invited along with the attendees there while he was leaving the hotel

40:09 and giving a weird peace sign outside his limo.

40:13 And there were some other people as well that he was catching.

40:16 He might have been the guy that took the picture of the MI6

40:20 head whose like great uncle was a Ukrainian Nazi during World War II.

40:24 Neither here nor there.

40:25 But basically Dan Dicks was on this and so we have a couple links.

40:29 We covered this in the bonus last week on Patreon

40:32 and I said I would get to a publicly as well.

40:34 So shout out to all you who waited for that.

40:37 Also as a side note,

40:38 I appreciate everyone who's on Patreon and YouTube members only.

40:41 We do the early releases over there and we do

40:43 stuff uncensored for the most part as far as like some

40:46 things you do have to censor on YouTube like words you

40:48 have to bleep out and stuff like that but you know, they are all early releases.

40:53 I like giving the people in the public also what they want.

40:57 So special thank you to all the people on Patreon doing that but I

41:00 never want people to feel obligated to have to go to Patreon or members only.

41:03 We put our content on in public so everyone can enjoy it.

41:06 You guys watching the show is plenty of support right there.

41:09 I I really really do appreciate that.

41:11 I've said that since day one.

41:12 I will never stop saying that.

41:13 So thank you to everyone, seriously.

41:15 But I believe he had the guest list, right Thief?

41:18 Yeah, it's slanted.

41:20 So this is the guest list, Bilderberg meeting 2026.

41:24 It says confidential on the top, right?

41:26 This is a very official piece

41:27 of paper and it's watermarked with confidential across.

41:31 And it shows the list of participants.

41:33 I'm just looking from far away.

41:34 I met Stacey Abrams.

41:36 Yeah, I see Henry Kravis's wife.

41:38 Henry Kravis from KKR,

41:39 his wife who is the chairman of the Museum of Modern of Modern Art.

41:43 She's on there.

41:43 These are people they have them listed

41:45 on the left side by their country of origin.

41:48 But just looking across this do do do do do do,

41:51 who's on there that's really interesting?

41:53 Mark Carney?

41:55 Mark Carney from Canada, the Prime Minister.

41:57 Who else you see, Thief?

41:58 Yeah, I was just François-Philippe Champagne.

42:01 It's a cool name.

42:02 That is a cool name.

42:04 Probably not a cool guy.

42:08 Piers back, but Piers back.

42:09 Minister of France and national revenue

42:12 of finance and national revenue in Canada.

42:15 Sounds French.

42:16 Another Canadian, yeah.

42:17 Yeah, French Canadian.

42:17 Okay, so let's CEO of Stripe, Patrick Collison.

42:21 Yep, Dan Driskill, the US Secretary of the Army, nothing to see there.

42:26 We're going to get to what the agenda was in a second.

42:28 That's the else Dan Dicks also got that.

42:30 All right, we're on the next page right now.

42:32 Scanning, scanning, scanning.

42:35 Alex Karp.

42:36 Alex Karp, as we said, is right there.

42:39 These are people basically who are if I could summarize it,

42:43 people from governments, people from media who are clearly on the inside,

42:48 people from technocracy, major industry leaders,

42:51 people from espionage, people from I said from governments,

42:55 but also specifically like ambassadors,

42:57 people that go around the world to other countries on behalf of a country.

43:02 Let's go to the next one.

43:03 Demis Hassabis, the co-founder and CEO of DeepMind from Google.

43:08 AI company, okay.

43:10 Uh, this is the next page.

43:12 Peter Thiel was there as well.

43:13 I don't think we're at T's yet, but the last

43:16 Satya Nadella, the CEO of Microsoft.

43:20 These people were all like all these people were in a Washington, D.C.

43:23 hotel and no one was there.

43:25 And then Dan Dicks took a funny video where the like

43:29 temporary fencing they put up around the hotel was blown

43:31 over by the winds and he was like it was God

43:33 doing it to blow the cap off of all this corruption.

43:37 Editor-in-chief of Bloomberg, editor-in-chief of The Economist.

43:41 Yep.

43:42 CEO of Deutsche Bank.

43:43 The Economist was owned by the Rothschilds until about a month and a half ago.

43:48 They sold It was partially owned by the Rothschilds.

43:51 They sold I forget what their percentage stake was,

43:53 but they did sell that stake.

43:55 That's interesting.

43:56 And then we see Rishi Sunak,

43:58 member of Parliament and former Prime Minister of Great Britain.

44:02 We see Peter Thiel, as I said, Fareed Zakaria,

44:07 host of Fareed Zakaria GPS on on CNN.

44:11 You know, the thing about this list is

44:15 it is people from every race, alleged religion,

44:18 though I would argue probably none of them have one pure spec,

44:21 and country, and place, and type around the world.

44:26 They're very diversified.

44:27 I will give them that.

44:28 They're very diversified except

44:30 except in one key metric, Dief.

44:33 What's that?

44:33 Anyone who is in any way not associated with an elite circle.

44:38 They don't have any representative therefore of 99.9999999% of the earth.

44:44 These are all people who are of wealth, means, power,

44:47 and interior circles where all of the places they show

44:50 up have watermarks that say confidential and nobody knows nothing.

44:55 Imagine they shot like a bus driver in there.

44:57 It's like Mike Johnson, bus driver.

45:01 Like, man, I'm just I'm just making sure they keep it within bounds, okay?

45:06 That's all I'm here to do.

45:08 That's good for ops.

45:09 Do we have the agenda though, too?

45:11 Yeah, yeah, check that.

45:11 He's got it up.

45:12 All right, so the agenda for Bilderberg 2026 was released.

45:17 AI, Arctic Security, cue all the pyramids underneath the Antarctica,

45:24 people out there, China, China.

45:26 Digital Finance, Energy Diversification, Europe,

45:30 Global Trade, the Middle East, Russia.

45:33 We're covering most of the map at this point, Dief.

45:35 Transatlantic Defense Industrial Relationship.

45:37 That sounds a lot like what Kiriakou said, arms deals,

45:40 you know, that kind of that kind of business.

45:42 Ukraine, which is still a war killing

45:45 millions of people literally, still going on.

45:47 USA, Future of Warfare, and the West.

45:51 So, don't worry, everybody.

45:54 These people, these in some cases actually elected,

45:57 I do have to say that, but in most cases unelected

46:00 in an unelected forum or meeting in this hotel with some nice seafood

46:03 towers deciding what your future is regardless of where you're from around

46:07 the world in war not war or going to be in war.

46:12 Good luck.

46:13 Good luck.

46:14 Good luck.

46:16 It's just crazy that they do this stuff right in front of you.

46:19 What are we going to What what the hell are we going to do about it?

46:22 Apparently not a god damn thing except talk about it on YouTube.

46:25 another La Bou Bou.

46:27 Yes, buy a La Bou Bou.

46:28 Maybe a Chia Pet for a while.

46:29 Yeah, order Uber Eats and get a La Bou Bou.

46:32 Yeah.

46:33 Yeah.

46:34 But the missing scientists Yeah, dude.

46:36 I feel like when we did it last week,

46:38 we were like so like I was blown to the tits and I

46:41 feel like now I'm just like this isn't as crazy as I thought.

46:45 Like it's still crazy, but there's still so much to be said.

46:49 There's three things to be said right off the bat.

46:51 Some of the quote unquote missing scientists in air quotes cuz not all

46:55 of them are scientists are[ __] and shouldn't be tied to the story.

46:58 I feel pretty strongly about that.

47:00 Again, I said last week I hesitate to use the term

47:04 rule out cuz I'm a YouTuber and it's like you know, right?

47:06 You got to You got to know what seat you sit in, pal.

47:08 But like when you look at the evidence of some of these it's

47:11 like I think there's a lot of things pointing to that's not connected.

47:15 The second thing that's that is also probably true here that I'll talk

47:19 about more in a second is the fact that this does feel like it

47:23 is an attempt at making a story to be a distraction from the story

47:27 that they tried to make a distraction for another story that they don't like.

47:30 And those two stories I'm referring to on the distraction

47:33 chain of everybody run over here, now run over here,

47:35 now run over here are the Iran war which has

47:39 been not good for the West and to this point.

47:44 And of course the Epstein files which Quick sidebar.

47:50 I have been stopped on the street by people multiple

47:53 times over the past couple weeks saying that they really appreciate

48:00 the fact that D and I are still covering this at least

48:04 a little bit every week and not letting this die.

48:07 And I I have really really appreciated hearing that because I do

48:13 my best to do the right thing and you know, we're entertainers,

48:18 but we we're covering real[ __] on this show at on this specific show where

48:23 D and I are doing this cuz we're covering the new cycle and stuff like that.

48:27 You know, I have seen this die off in the algorithm.

48:31 I've seen it be less than optimal to be the thing to cover for sure.

48:35 It's not exactly the most monetized topic either.

48:38 I don't care.

48:40 I've looked at this case for 7 years.

48:42 Everyone out there listening, you guys,

48:43 many of you have looked at this case obsessively just like me and we

48:48 are all fed an algorithm that tells us what to look at next.

48:52 And if there's one little small part we can do

48:54 on our little corner of the internet to at least put something

48:57 in there to where this story stays alive so that perhaps

49:03 we can look back and say maybe if some justice gets done,

49:06 we did our little part.

49:07 You know, I I do take a lot of pride in that.

49:09 So, I've appreciated the people who have said that.

49:11 There've also been a lot of people in DMs saying that as well.

49:15 So, that that is why we stay on that.

49:18 And again, some of the stories we talked about this week,

49:21 chances are you guys didn't even see that cuz all the other[ __] going on.

49:25 And you know, it's like another story, another story,

49:28 another story and that's why with the distraction

49:31 aspect of the missing scientist story,

49:33 there's a lot of people jumping on this that I'll

49:36 get to in a second including from the government that it

49:38 just feels like they're excited to talk about this in a way

49:43 where instead of being really actually concerned about national security,

49:47 they're like, "Oh, we'll just throw a missing scientist over and over again.

49:51 We'll stop talking about the disaster in Iran,

49:54 and then maybe when we start thinking about

49:55 that, they'll they won't even remember about that Epstein guy.

49:58 You do have to say that here, and I think I said there were three things there.

50:02 I just went on a long tangent, but if there was a third thing,

50:06 it's that at the this is what it was.

50:08 At the top of the pyramid of this missing scientist case,

50:14 there's some concern Mhm.

50:16 with at least a couple people there Yeah.

50:18 that have disappeared.

50:21 Actually, a fourth thing as well.

50:22 I just remembered this.

50:24 Fourth and fifth.

50:25 The kind of fourth, but we'll call fourth and fifth.

50:27 Fourth, there's a few other cases that are allegedly coming up right now

50:32 that we have to look at more that might be something, or they might not.

50:36 They might be just a part of the distraction to build it up.

50:39 And fifth, also what could be a distraction here.

50:43 Got to look at this more.

50:44 We're going to examine it in a few minutes,

50:45 but there's also reports of I think it was at least

50:49 seven missing scientists over the past couple years in China China, yeah.

50:53 who have disappeared.

50:55 And the reason why you have to say journalistically, well,

50:59 there could be a there there with things like this is

51:02 because when you look at the history of the world,

51:06 especially since World War II,

51:09 look throughout the Cold War and things like that, scientists

51:13 were targets of countries like the US and Russia,

51:18 USSR I should say for back then,

51:20 and continue to be because of their brains and their minds

51:26 and the things they have access to and the vital

51:29 information as it pertains to national security that they

51:31 could give up if you started taking their fingernails.

51:34 Just saying.

51:36 All right.

51:37 So, let's start with Amy Asquith.

51:41 We talked about her on last week's episode for about 3

51:43 4 minutes cuz it was just coming out at the time.

51:47 And then Lauren Conlin and I in episode 413,

51:52 which dropped yesterday by the time this is dropping on Saturday.

51:57 We also discussed her and Lauren had similar reservations as Deef and I

52:03 do having been able to review it more after last week's recording.

52:08 First of all, when the Daily Mail came out

52:10 with the headline 11th missing scientist linked to case,

52:15 they made it sound and it was Amy Esrig.

52:18 They made it sound like this was a brand new death or disappearance.

52:24 Amy Esrig to be clear died by suicide in 2022.

52:28 So it was not that was a misleading kind of thing,

52:31 which again adds to the distraction narrative here if that is a real narrative.

52:35 But we watched a video with Lauren Conlin.

52:38 There's another I'm going to play in a minute that we didn't watch with her.

52:41 And there were many videos floating around of Amy Esrig cuz

52:44 she did interviews and talked on the internet before she died.

52:47 Where it is so so clear that at the very

52:52 least she was abusing all kinds of substances,

52:55 which maybe some people say, "Oh, your life's in danger for real.

52:58 You end up turning to things like that." Possible.

53:00 But she had alleged history of schizophrenia and serious serious issues.

53:09 And furthermore, someone I know well spoke to someone extremely close

53:15 to her last week who was unequivocal that A, she did actually commit suicide.

53:27 And B, her work was not nearly as serious as she tried to say.

53:32 She was not an idiot to be clear.

53:33 Amy was actually heavily educated within we've read off

53:38 some of her education last week within science fields.

53:41 And that was really her life interest,

53:43 but you know her father basically set up a for fun

53:50 company for her to feel like she was larping.

53:54 And those those are my words to put it that way analytically,

53:58 but Lauren Conlin couldn't find government contracts.

54:02 We thought that was what we were looking at last week.

54:05 Again, the case was just breaking when we were recording.

54:08 But, you know if there's something else there I'm happy to change my mind.

54:14 I just don't see it.

54:15 There there's a the the first link, you have it up deep here.

54:19 So, this is this is an example of an Amy Esrigde

54:22 video where she's in a static panic claiming her hands were

54:25 being targeted by a direct energy weapon just 1 month before

54:29 she was found dead from a gunshot wound to the head.

54:31 This is from right angle network on Twitter.

54:34 Let's play this.

54:35 My my hands have been burned to hell and back as I've been typing.

54:40 Cuz you can beam me through the air and through or through there.

54:44 And you can get a 3D image of what I'm typing.

54:46 Why are you sitting in that room?

54:47 Cuz this computer doesn't have a Wi-Fi card.

54:49 You can't hack it, but you can maybe get a 3D image of me typing.

54:53 So, like we just did that.

54:55 And did that.

54:58 As an act of as an act of pure desperation.

55:03 And guess what?

55:05 I feel better immediately.

55:08 I feel better immediately.

55:09 Like My hands still burn cuz there's damage.

55:12 Champagne down there.

55:13 My hands still burn cuz there's damage, but but it's like my body relaxed when

55:19 we barricaded the[ __] All right, that's good.

55:23 I I'm to be clear, I'm not trying

55:24 to be disrespectful to someone who has tragically died.

55:29 I have to look at this stuff in as balanced a way

55:33 as I can and look at what facts we can see.

55:36 And if they're leaning a certain way, I'm going to say that.

55:39 And so I I personally think hers is blown out of proportion.

55:44 Again, I'm happy to see new evidence brought forward,

55:47 but I don't I feel like she probably

55:49 wasn't having a lot of conversations with Hal Puthoff,

55:53 which I think she was like alluding

55:54 to having had some engagement with him, you know?

55:57 And Hal Puthoff might be an awful guy.

56:00 She might be right about that.

56:01 But like she was overshooting her chops, if you will.

56:10 So again, that's that's not the best look on a case like this.

56:14 There's also the video of Rep.

56:15 Burleson.

56:16 When it you know, again,

56:19 there are some huge stories that people want out of the media right now.

56:24 And by people, I mean people in our government.

56:26 So when you have congressmen jumping all over this and making huge claims,

56:32 especially about someone like Amy Escherich, yeah,

56:35 your red alarm bell should be going off.

56:37 Here's Rep.

56:38 Burleson talking about I believe he's talking directly about Amy Escherich,

56:42 if I remember correctly.

56:43 these 11 scientists.

56:44 There's some outliers, certainly,

56:46 but each one has a very mysterious and unique case.

56:50 I think Amy Escherich her case is somewhat of an outlier,

56:54 but it's worth investigating.

56:55 I mean, we had Michael Shellenberger come to our hearing back in 2024,

57:00 and in his testimony, he provided information from a researcher Frank Milburn,

57:06 who was a retired UK intelligence official,

57:09 who Amy had reached out to and asked to investigate some of the harassment,

57:13 some of the weird things that were happening with her.

57:16 And he determined that she was the victim of a directed energy weapon,

57:20 and that she was likely murdered by US Aerospace Corp.

57:23 Okay.

57:24 He's also citing Michael Shellenberger,

57:27 who basically went on Joe Rogan and and made

57:31 an ass of himself 2 months ago talking

57:35 about Epstein and having gone through the he wrote

57:37 articles about it having gone through the Epstein files.

57:40 Oh, he had no he he wasn't an intel agent and all this stuff.

57:43 It was you know, people throw around that term controlled opposition online.

57:49 It's impossible to not look at what he was saying

57:51 and and think that and I saw there was a good 11 10

57:56 11 minute clip I think 8 10 11 minute clip I

57:59 saw of Rogan and him going back and forth and you know,

58:02 Rogan's helped his career a ton.

58:04 He's had him on the show a bunch over the years.

58:07 And Rogan was getting rightfully so pissed off

58:10 because Shellenberger was just trying to shut him down,

58:13 cut him off and say there's nothing to see here.

58:16 Get away from it.

58:17 And when you look at the people Shellenberger's tied

58:19 to Peter Thiel you know it's not it's not great look.

58:24 So when you have the congressman citing

58:26 him right out front immediately red flags are flying.

58:30 Yeah, immediately.

58:31 Like yeah, okay.

58:32 So they're going to blow up this one but not Epstein.

58:35 Interesting.

58:36 Interesting.

58:36 I'll keep note of that.

58:37 Annie Jacobsen who's a phenomenal author who

58:41 I'd love to have on the podcast someday.

58:43 We've tried.

58:44 Never been able to do it.

58:45 But you know, she's written some incredible books Operation Paperclip.

58:50 In the past she wrote the book about DARPA.

58:52 She wrote a book that I didn't read.

58:56 I believe it's about Roswell and some of the other

59:02 weird things that aren't talked about with that and then she

59:04 just wrote a book about nuclear war that she's been over

59:08 the past year going on a lot of shows talking about.

59:11 But she said on Twitter, I think the missing scientist will become

59:15 part of the coming White House UFO release

59:17 the real intention of which is to divert

59:20 from foreign affairs and the Epstein files.

59:22 And she cites an article that was

59:24 in the Atlantic where it was talking about you know,

59:27 the case for this just being a giant distraction.

59:30 And you do have to throw that out there.

59:33 I've talked about the shiny object in the past being UFOs,

59:36 Trump very conveniently saying that a week before the Iran war,

59:40 and then the Caslin disappearing a week after he said that, you know,

59:43 right before the Iran war.

59:44 It That's That's where it certainly is sketchy at best,

59:50 and you know, just a news media cover-up.

59:56 That worst, I guess is how you would say it.

59:58 But, there are a couple cases coming forward.

1:00:03 One that I'm not going to talk about today

1:00:05 is the I never remember how to pronounce his name,

1:00:09 the Levensberger case from New Year's Day 2025,

1:00:13 which Shawn Ryan had done a big podcast on right after that happened.

1:00:17 I still got to look more at that.

1:00:19 There's people trying to connect that, but there was

1:00:21 a lot going on there that was like, I don't know.

1:00:25 Let me look at that more before I actually make some comments,

1:00:28 but there were There were two other scientists that were

1:00:34 online thrown around as linked to this this week.

1:00:38 Let you guys decide where you think this stands.

1:00:40 One of them was this guy who was killed in his Tesla.

1:00:47 And this was a NASA nuclear scientist.

1:00:50 So, he was found deceased in his Tesla after colliding with a guardrail.

1:00:53 I believe this was last year.

1:00:55 Leaving his body so burned that he was completely

1:00:58 unrecognizable according to a new report from Fox News.

1:01:01 29-year-old Joshua Le Blanc, who worked on nuclear propulsion projects,

1:01:06 died in a fiery crash over the summer.

1:01:08 His family at the time said they feared he had

1:01:10 been abducted when he left his phone and wallet at home.

1:01:13 It's another pattern we've seen there with some

1:01:16 other people who have disappeared or died.

1:01:18 According to Tesla Sentry Mode data, his vehicle sat at the Huntsville,

1:01:22 Alabama airport for 4 hours on the morning of his death.

1:01:27 Again, a lot of these people have some weird

1:01:31 connection to Huntsville or Wright-Patterson up in Ohio, I believe.

1:01:37 Just I got to say that.

1:01:40 His car was later found that afternoon.

1:01:42 Authorities have now told Fox News that the car

1:01:44 collided with a guardrail before slamming into trees.

1:01:46 It then burst into flames.

1:01:47 His family said it was completely uncharacteristic

1:01:50 for him to not communicate with them

1:01:51 and that it was not part of his plan to travel west that day.

1:01:54 LeBlanc had an impressive resume according to his LinkedIn profile.

1:01:57 He worked at NASA for over 5 years.

1:01:59 He was a team lead.

1:02:01 Listen to this, for NASA's space

1:02:03 nuclear propulsion instrumentation and control maturation.

1:02:08 We talked about the five scientists in this report who are linked to JPL,

1:02:12 the Jet Propulsion Laboratory at NASA.

1:02:15 This is in a similar line of work, if you will.

1:02:20 LeBlanc then became a team lead

1:02:22 for NASA's Demonstration Rocket for Agile Cis-Lunar Operation,

1:02:27 codename DRACO, a nuclear thermal propulsion engine, according to Fox.

1:02:32 This was a brilliant man and a serious guy,

1:02:35 certainly dying under odd circumstances.

1:02:38 It is worth looking at.

1:02:40 This is This is not an Amy Eschridge.

1:02:43 This guy was inside the belly of the beast, if you will.

1:02:49 There was also a plane crash, mhm, I believe on the 16th,

1:02:53 16th or 17th of April this month, that involved,

1:02:57 if you can go up just for 1 second, Bief.

1:03:00 James Tony, he was known as Tony Moffitt,

1:03:03 and I believe, unfortunately, two of his sons.

1:03:05 They died in a M20 crash in South

1:03:08 Carolina and the cause remains under investigation.

1:03:10 We'll go down right here.

1:03:12 So, a decorated veteran pilot, aerospace engineer,

1:03:14 and defense researcher was killed in a plane crash in South Carolina,

1:03:17 raising questions about whether the incident is related to the deaths

1:03:20 and disappearances of 11 scientists tied to nuclear and space research.

1:03:23 I do want to add this is all from Fox News,

1:03:26 which is certainly a It's another Rupert Murdoch owned place

1:03:30 that is very friendly to the current White House and has plenty

1:03:34 of hosts on there that will apparently at all costs do

1:03:37 the bidding of said White House even when they're in the wrong,

1:03:39 so take that with a grain of salt.

1:03:41 James Tony Moffett, 60, was flying with his wife Oh, his wife was on there, too.

1:03:45 Wife Lisa, 61, and sons Andrew, 30, and William, 28,

1:03:49 when the plane crashed in a wooded area near

1:03:51 the runway at Union County Airport in South Carolina on Friday.

1:03:55 The family from Huntsville, Alabama, there it is again,

1:03:59 was traveling from the Raleigh-Durham area of North Carolina to Huntsville,

1:04:03 officials said, and it stopped in Union County to refuel.

1:04:06 The Union County Sheriff's Office said the crash occurred around 6:30.

1:04:09 The family was flying a Mooney M20 single-engine aircraft.

1:04:12 Let's go down.

1:04:13 I want to get to some of his work.

1:04:15 Moffett is the latest scientist with ties to aerospace research and NASA

1:04:19 to make headlines with the deaths

1:04:20 and disappearance of 11 individuals with similar backgrounds,

1:04:23 which is misleading to say it that way, raising concerns.

1:04:26 His son, Andrew Moffett,

1:04:28 was also an up-and-coming researcher at the time of his death.

1:04:30 30-year-old was a research engineer and scientist at the University

1:04:33 of Alabama in Huntsville's Research and Engineering Support Center.

1:04:36 The older Moffett earned a master's degree,

1:04:38 meaning the father, Tony, who was known as Tony,

1:04:40 earned a master's degree in aerospace engineering

1:04:43 from Georgia Tech in 1988 and previously

1:04:45 he studied as an experimental test pilot in the US Naval Test Pilot School,

1:04:48 according to his LinkedIn profile.

1:04:50 Following his 21-year military career,

1:04:52 Moffett worked as a payload and flight crew support

1:04:55 specialist at NASA's Johnson Air Johnson Space Center Astronaut Office,

1:05:00 where he participated in 14 Space Shuttle ISS construction missions.

1:05:06 Inside the belly of the beast, if you will.

1:05:09 After retiring from the Army in 2008,

1:05:11 Moffett founded aerospace consulting firm Moffett Systems Inc.

1:05:15 and later served as a principal research engineer

1:05:17 at the University of Alabama in Huntsville's research center.

1:05:23 We don't know anything beyond this yet.

1:05:25 Private planes do crash.

1:05:27 That is usually what uh when you hear about a plane crash,

1:05:29 it is usually private one, unfortunately.

1:05:34 Convenient timing.

1:05:36 I'll say that.

1:05:37 But this is all we know right now.

1:05:39 It's just strange.

1:05:41 I have to admit that.

1:05:42 It's strange.

1:05:43 Another Huntsville NASA-related guy dying around the same time.

1:05:49 Whole family goes down with him.

1:05:50 The son's also in some research,

1:05:52 maybe got a little something, learned something from the old man.

1:05:55 You never[ __] know.

1:05:57 Worth talking about.

1:06:00 I'm just sitting here looking at like the ad on Fox News's website.

1:06:04 Like proud American, click here for patriotic news and inspiring stories.

1:06:08 And it's like, yeah, these stories are they're really inspiring lately.

1:06:12 Really, really inspiring.

1:06:15 me.

1:06:15 Yeah, that's another thing.

1:06:16 You know, The Patriot is one of my favorite movies with Mel Gibson.

1:06:20 Yeah.

1:06:20 And patriot's such a great word.

1:06:23 If if if if you study the Revolutionary War obsessively like I do,

1:06:27 hint hint, we're going to have some good stuff coming on that, by the way.

1:06:31 Let's leave that right there.

1:06:32 But you know, these guys were amazing what they pulled off.

1:06:35 And by the way, they were across the political spectrum

1:06:38 in doing that as it would later be revealed when

1:06:40 they were making the Constitution and arguing over it and arguing

1:06:43 in the years later about how to run the government.

1:06:45 But like they were a brilliant group of men and they were patriots.

1:06:49 And I think all Americans who actually love

1:06:52 the country should be able to call themselves patriots.

1:06:55 I just find it really sad Yeah.

1:06:57 that it just kind of got co-opted to where like you

1:07:01 only say that if you're like a hardcore conservative or something.

1:07:04 And that's that's against America.

1:07:06 I think people on the far left and the far right,

1:07:10 which to be clear, it's not just people on the far right.

1:07:12 I I don't want to be unfair there.

1:07:13 But people on the far left and far right are by definition not patriots.

1:07:17 They can think they are, but you know,

1:07:19 it's extreme politics really don't represent that.

1:07:23 But people kind of across the spectrum with a range

1:07:25 of ideas should be able to say like, "I'm a patriot.

1:07:28 I actually love America and appreciate living here." Like me.

1:07:31 I'm an extremely moderate person and I call myself that.

1:07:34 But it's just strange that that terminology has been co-opted politically,

1:07:38 like a lot of other terminology by the way.

1:07:40 We see this on the left and the right.

1:07:41 Different terms are associated with one or the other.

1:07:44 And it's really cringe.

1:07:45 And I hope like in this, you know, dangerous word that you're using here,

1:07:50 but like this reset button era that hopefully we have somewhat coming up here,

1:07:57 we can get rid of[ __] like that and just talk again

1:08:00 and be able to call yourself stuff without making a political statement.

1:08:03 It's like when you would go to Twitter,

1:08:05 and if you went to a bio and it had a Ukraine flag in it,

1:08:08 you knew who they voted for.

1:08:09 If you went to a bio and it had American flag in it,

1:08:12 you knew who they voted for.

1:08:13 That's very weird.

1:08:14 Yeah.

1:08:14 It's very, very weird.

1:08:15 And in some cases, that's also cuz politicians lost their mind.

1:08:19 You know, we we saw that with woke culture and particularly

1:08:22 for a lot of years on the left like Of course,

1:08:25 if you lose your mind like that, you're going

1:08:27 to piss people off who aren't even on the other side,

1:08:29 but then go the other side.

1:08:30 I totally get that.

1:08:31 And that's another pendulum in America works and why we all fight.

1:08:34 But Another thing I did want to cover with the missing scientist story is

1:08:40 another case that was tossed around

1:08:43 into the middle of this that actually has some

1:08:45 history on this podcast in the past that I want to address directly because I

1:08:50 truly believe it is completely unrelated and is

1:08:54 exactly what it was reported to be.

1:08:56 And that is the tragic suicide of David Wilcock.

1:09:00 So, people jumped on this right away.

1:09:02 David Wilcock is a long-time UFO and paranormal

1:09:06 researcher who was associated with Gaia TV.

1:09:10 Back in episode 287, I had my friend Darcy Weiren who did a documentary that we

1:09:14 are going to link in the description below called Dark Alliances.

1:09:18 Dark Alliance, covering Corey Goode and particularly

1:09:22 and David Wilcock who at one point

1:09:24 had a show together on Gaia and all of the[ __] that they spewed.

1:09:30 And I I called Darcy before this just to like rehash it.

1:09:33 Episode 287 came out.

1:09:35 I want to say that was March 25th, 2024.

1:09:39 So, it's been or 2025.

1:09:41 So, it's been over a year.

1:09:42 But, he went through a lot of what

1:09:44 was going on in that documentary and basically,

1:09:49 there were depositions for a lawsuit between,

1:09:53 I believe it was Gaia and Corey Goode in 2023 that were

1:09:59 made public and Darcy was able to go through where Corey

1:10:03 Goode admits that the stuff that he and by extension David Wilcock

1:10:10 and being associated with him and making some of the same claims,

1:10:12 the stuff that he was pushing like secret space programs,

1:10:17 20 and back, which is that's a whole[ __] rabbit hole right there.

1:10:21 These terms were actually fake and the way he said it,

1:10:26 you would have loved this, Dave.

1:10:27 Great biz.

1:10:28 In the deposition, when they were when the lawyers

1:10:32 were asking him about it, he said, "Well,

1:10:33 that's that's my my intellectual property to sell." He was

1:10:39 referring to it as intellectual property that he and they're like,

1:10:41 "So, you created it?" "Yes, I I created intellectual pro So,

1:10:47 it's not real." And he was basically like, "Real?

1:10:50 What is real?" real?

1:10:51 I mean, it's laughable.

1:10:53 And so David Wilcock was an early who I was just talking about Corey Goode,

1:11:01 his partner in crime, if you will, no pun intended there,

1:11:05 was an early UFO researcher researcher in the space

1:11:09 who blew up with Gaia TV and Ancient Aliens.

1:11:12 Eventually, the guy was known to have kind of lost his mind.

1:11:17 He left Corey Goode behind.

1:11:19 He lost his money.

1:11:20 I believe he even ended up getting divorced.

1:11:24 He had made up all these secret space program claims along with Corey Goode.

1:11:28 You could say some of them certainly emanated with Corey Goode,

1:11:30 but he retweeted them, if you will.

1:11:33 And you know, this is also a guy who had made a lot of doomsday claims.

1:11:39 He at one point he he always so Darcy talked about it.

1:11:42 He always sold fear, like a lot of people do.

1:11:44 It's a very powerful thing to sell.

1:11:45 That gets people on your side where he would tell

1:11:47 his followers like the world was going to end in 2012.

1:11:51 What was another one?

1:11:51 I think I wrote one down.

1:11:53 He had he said in 2020 a great solar flash was going

1:11:56 to wipe out and and it was going to wipe out the population,

1:11:59 but his followers, you ready for this?

1:12:02 Would ascend.

1:12:04 He was early on the clavicular train.

1:12:06 the ascension type.

1:12:07 in he was in ascension type.

1:12:08 I like that.

1:12:09 But obviously, that never happened.

1:12:11 And there was some other claims he made.

1:12:13 I don't I don't remember, but they all involved like bad things happening

1:12:19 to Earth that then didn't come to fruition.

1:12:21 He also thought he was Edgar Cayce reincarnated.

1:12:24 Like he had some strange claims.

1:12:26 He has crashed out on his live streams that he does.

1:12:29 His family has come out.

1:12:32 It not Again, people will use their conspiratorial

1:12:35 minds on this stuff and say, "Well,

1:12:36 that's exactly what they said should say." But his family

1:12:38 has come out and said this is tragic, asking for prayers at the time.

1:12:41 He did commit suicide.

1:12:44 All that stuff.

1:12:46 We got to be so careful running with things like this.

1:12:49 It's it's tragic that a man has lost his life.

1:12:51 I I have reverence for the depth of of something like that.

1:12:58 You do have to report on how this guy made his business

1:13:02 and lived his life though and a lot of provable lies.

1:13:07 And some of this is also literally personal

1:13:10 cuz beyond episode 287 when I did episode 266

1:13:14 but particularly 267 which were recorded the same day

1:13:18 with my friend James Fox and then Jason Sands.

1:13:23 Jason Sands was a military UFO whistleblower who

1:13:29 had come out in James Fox's documentary The Program

1:13:32 which came out in December 2024 and made some

1:13:36 insane claims about alien encounters out at Area 51.

1:13:42 And I say insane not to be mean

1:13:47 but because that you know they were beyond the pale.

1:13:49 And long story short,

1:13:51 he ended up making in the days after the documentary came out,

1:13:56 he made claims that were like if he had made a claim

1:14:00 that was a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10,

1:14:02 he made claims that were now on a 100 that he hadn't said in the documentary

1:14:06 that were totally disqualifying and made James look really

1:14:10 bad and James I go way back with him,

1:14:12 really good friend of mine, brilliant documentary filmmaker.

1:14:16 And the worst part was there were people behind the scenes,

1:14:19 I can't say cuz I it's I believe it's off record.

1:14:22 I always err towards that but that had brought

1:14:25 James Jason Sands and had pushed him on to James.

1:14:32 When they knew that Jason Sands, respect to him,

1:14:36 he's a very nice man had some severe psychological trauma and PTSD.

1:14:41 This was documented.

1:14:43 I mean[ __] listen to the first 32 minutes episode 267,

1:14:46 hear about the guy's childhood.

1:14:48 That gave me a lot of peace hearing that because

1:14:51 I saw what this man went through in his life.

1:14:54 And I empathize with that because I don't think Jason I

1:14:56 I've said this before and people disagree but I'm okay saying this.

1:14:58 I don't think Jason Sands is a liar.

1:15:01 I think he genuinely believes the things that he says

1:15:03 and I I told him that to his face afterwards.

1:15:06 You know?

1:15:07 I I really think he believes the things he says but I bring this all up

1:15:11 to to point out that when he first came

1:15:14 out with some claims before the documentary was even released.

1:15:17 This is back in April 2024.

1:15:19 Darcy Weir was making that documentary Dark Alliance.

1:15:23 And at the time Darcy Weir was like the Leonardo DiCaprio meme

1:15:27 because he heard the claims Jason made and they were literally like

1:15:30 lifted from things that have been said by Good and Wilcock on Gaia

1:15:34 including the 20 and back term and other things involving space programs.

1:15:40 I don't remember all the details but nobody listened to Darcy

1:15:43 at very few people listened to Darcy at the beginning.

1:15:45 And then once more claims came out and people were like wait

1:15:48 a minute then they saw that he was actually right on this.

1:15:52 So when Darcy and I fast forward did a podcast

1:15:54 on it later after I talked with Jason Sands

1:15:58 on camera after the documentary come out after Jason had

1:16:01 made all the new claims after all this[ __] you know,

1:16:04 it was about Good and then also Wilcock.

1:16:08 And so when you're saying like oh now they're

1:16:09 off in the UFO research well, who was this guy?

1:16:12 What was his research?

1:16:14 I personally don't think the evidence points

1:16:17 to his data being anything of note or real.

1:16:23 And you can look at those depositions if you need more proof of that.

1:16:26 Never say anything's 100% but color me extremely skeptical of there being

1:16:31 any tie or anything different than what has been reported to this case.

1:16:38 David Wilcock was not in the best place mentally.

1:16:44 Obviously, he'd said in the past,

1:16:45 "I would never kill myself and stuff like that." And you know,

1:16:48 you've heard me say that on air and stuff,

1:16:50 but you also have to look at the context of how people talk

1:16:52 about other things and things going on in their life and you know,

1:16:56 losing their minds sometimes publicly and it just kind of is what it is.

1:17:01 But, I want to make sure, you know, again,

1:17:03 Darcy Weir has been on that story for a long time.

1:17:06 And Darcy has been incredibly respectful since David Wilcock's untimely passing.

1:17:13 Obviously, this is a human being who lost their life.

1:17:15 And, you know, that that should be highlighted.

1:17:21 For sure.

1:17:24 Did I miss anything on that, Tiff?

1:17:26 No, RIP.

1:17:28 Yeah.

1:17:28 RIP.

1:17:29 Um this I just saw this though,

1:17:31 uh not to bring you back in, but this this developed

1:17:34 10 minutes ago while we were rolling.

1:17:37 Um and it looks like RAI that Italian report is going

1:17:41 to be dropping some stuff on Sunday in pertinence to our boy Paolo.

1:17:46 RAI has This is from Kazoo Catherine.

1:17:49 10 minutes ago.

1:17:50 Yo, Kazoo Catherine.

1:17:52 Yo, I was going to say that, dude.

1:17:54 Grinder.

1:17:55 Grinder.

1:17:56 Shout out She calls herself Katie on Twitter.

1:17:59 RAI has exclusive audio of Paolo Zampolli where he reveals the existence

1:18:03 of a deal struck between him and Melania and before 2016 presidential election.

1:18:08 They plan to release the audio on Sunday as part of their investigative report.

1:18:12 Before you play this, Tiff,

1:18:13 I think I forgot to say this at the beginning in our list of claims.

1:18:16 The other claim that we looked at and speculated on based

1:18:21 on reports from various publications that were contradictory to each other,

1:18:27 by the way, which we made very clear, there were reports that Paolo Zampolli was

1:18:34 the original person to introduce Melania to Donald Trump.

1:18:39 And as we also like concluded, if you will, we don't know if that's true.

1:18:43 The evidence points to that maybe certainly being the case.

1:18:48 But like again, that's stuff that's in the public domain that's been

1:18:51 reported on long before any of this Epstein files stuff came out.

1:18:56 And it's certainly pertinent to the story and pertinent

1:18:58 to the fact that the current first lady of the United States,

1:19:01 Melania Trump, is coming out and directly addressing this case publicly.

1:19:03 So again, you know, your honor, if you're watching us,

1:19:08 we're doing our homework here, I promise you.

1:19:10 We're doing our best.

1:19:11 All right, let's let's play this video, Leaf.

1:19:21 There's no Like, you know,

1:19:23 it's been years since I spoke Italian despite the the one-line comeback earlier.

1:19:28 I'm I'm making mine, dude.

1:19:29 I know, you're getting it.

1:19:30 120 days in a row.

1:19:32 You've been practicing.

1:19:33 Crushing it.

1:19:34 I see that.

1:19:35 But I I did want to go a little bit more into to come back to it to to McCaslin.

1:19:42 Oh, yeah, yeah.

1:19:43 Cuz we had talked about him with Lauren

1:19:46 and we'd started to touch on it last week,

1:19:48 but let's start with the 911 call that his wife,

1:19:53 General McCaslin's wife, made on I believe it was February 27th,

1:19:57 2026 when he did not come home.

1:20:02 And this, by the way, this is from my buddy Jesse Weber.

1:20:06 He pulled this, this is where the actual video we're

1:20:08 getting it from, which it was in the public domain,

1:20:10 but from his show Sidebar on Law& Crime.

1:20:13 Jesse Weber's been on my show a couple times for episode

1:20:16 294 and I want to say it was 319 or 320.

1:20:22 That was a hazy time for me, but awesome awesome dude.

1:20:25 He also was someone who connected me with Lauren to get on the show the the day

1:20:30 and he connected me with other people in the past as well including Tom Smith,

1:20:35 but if you haven't checked out Jesse's stuff, he's the man.

1:20:38 He covers any major public legal case that's going on, he's on that[ __] And is

1:20:44 he has he is a lawyer by trade and also like an actor by trade,

1:20:48 so he's a[ __] awesome talker, but anyway, here's the 911 call once again

1:20:53 that McCaslin's wife made after his disappearance.

1:20:58 This is April, how may I help you?

1:21:00 Hi April, my name is Susan Wilkerson.

1:21:03 My husband is missing.

1:21:05 Okay.

1:21:05 And he's it's been about 3 hours and I have

1:21:10 some indication that he must have planned not to be found.

1:21:14 He's left his phone, he changed his clothes into I don't know what.

1:21:18 I think he's on foot.

1:21:20 All of our cars and bicycles are in the garage.

1:21:23 I left for a doctor's appointment at about

1:21:27 11:10 and uh he was here at that time.

1:21:32 Okay.

1:21:32 At the house.

1:21:33 And I got back from that at noon and he was gone.

1:21:36 He turned it off and left it behind,

1:21:39 which seems kind of deliberate cuz he's always got his phone.

1:21:43 He has a smart watch.

1:21:45 I don't know if that's with him or not.

1:21:48 Has he ever done this before?

1:21:50 Never.

1:21:51 Nothing even remotely like it.

1:21:53 He's a retired Air Force major general.

1:21:56 He's very responsible, but he's also facing some medical issues.

1:22:02 Do you have any video at your home?

1:22:04 No.

1:22:06 Has he been diagnosed with any mental um disorders or anything like that?

1:22:10 Well, we've been seeing a doc for both physical and mental in terms of anxiety,

1:22:19 short-term memory loss, lack of sleep.

1:22:22 The same doc I went to see today.

1:22:25 Does he carry any weapons on him?

1:22:27 Well, not generally.

1:22:29 I He does have a gun safe and I went

1:22:33 to look in the gun safe to see if anything was missing,

1:22:36 but I couldn't tell if anything was.

1:22:37 There's He has quite a number of pistols and rifles

1:22:41 other than brain of his brain body keeps deteriorating.

1:22:46 He didn't want to live like that.

1:22:48 But it seemed to me that was just a man, I hate how this is going kind of thing.

1:22:54 But if I told him, "Yes, you do.

1:22:56 Yes, you do." Okay.

1:22:58 We're going to send some deputies up to talk to you and see if we can search So,

1:23:02 it's definitely worth noting that there's been

1:23:05 at least some question around him related to anxiety,

1:23:09 lack of sleep, and most notably short-term memory loss.

1:23:12 That again, you got to if when we get information like that, we got to be

1:23:19 balanced and and share that regardless of how

1:23:22 treacherous it looks that he is in fact one.

1:23:25 I will say the fact that he deliberately

1:23:28 left everything else behind except a pistol is strange

1:23:32 because she also made clear on the call

1:23:34 he I think she just said that right there, correct me if I'm wrong.

1:23:37 He never does that.

1:23:38 He never doesn't take that stuff.

1:23:40 And it was later, I believe, revealed,

1:23:41 correct me in the comments if I'm if I'm remembering this incorrectly,

1:23:45 that he did in fact leave his Apple Watch behind and did not take that with him.

1:23:50 Yep.

1:23:51 So, all right, that is right.

1:23:52 Yeah.

1:23:53 Yeah, so said he always takes it with him.

1:23:55 That that part is strange.

1:23:58 Now, this is a guy who and Lauren talked about this.

1:24:08 He was in the Pedesta emails that were

1:24:11 leaked by WikiLeaks back in 2016 where Tom DeLonge,

1:24:17 the former frontman for Blink-182, emails Pedesta and says the following,

1:24:25 "I've been working with him," referring to McCasland, "for 4 months.

1:24:29 I just got done giving him a 4-hour

1:24:30 presentation on the entire project a few weeks ago.

1:24:34 Trust me," I believe that's referring to To the Stars Academy.

1:24:37 "Trust me, the advice has already been happening on how to do all this.

1:24:41 He just has to say that out loud, but he is very,

1:24:43 very aware as he was in charge of all this stuff.

1:24:45 When Roswell crashed,

1:24:47 they shipped it to the laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

1:24:50 General McCasland was in charge of that exact

1:24:52 laboratory up to a couple years ago.

1:24:54 He not only knows what I'm trying to achieve,

1:24:56 he helped assemble my advisory team.

1:24:59 He's a very important man.

1:25:01 I do also want to note, and I I might have said this last week,

1:25:04 but I just want to make sure I hit this again,

1:25:06 or I might have said this with Lear.

1:25:07 To the Stars Academy is filled with a lot

1:25:09 of guys from the spooky side of the government.

1:25:11 All right, these are Okay.

1:25:13 guys like Jim Semivan, long-time CIA dude, you know,

1:25:19 I'm forgetting some of the other I want to say Hal Puthoff was on it.

1:25:21 It's been a while since I looked at it.

1:25:23 But basically, when you look at the resume

1:25:24 of the guys who like started this with Tom DeLonge,

1:25:26 which is like hilarious that they started with Blink 182 guy,

1:25:30 but Yeah, that's so crazy.

1:25:31 They're all attached deep in into the intel community,

1:25:37 which certainly should be taken with a grain of salt.

1:25:39 And a guy like McCasland is certainly not separate from that.

1:25:42 He has been in charge of places like Wright-Patterson,

1:25:46 been in charge of the I forget the term for it,

1:25:49 but like the Air Force armory station or whatever out in Segundo,

1:25:53 you know, some of the other places that he was overseeing

1:25:57 like when he was overseeing projects related to JPL at NASA,

1:26:01 like or at least protecting the intelligence of that, I should say.

1:26:05 Mhm.

1:26:07 Forest Gump of the last 40 years

1:26:12 of places involving weird[ __] potentially happening.

1:26:15 And that has to be said.

1:26:17 So, I did say there's there's an article in there

1:26:21 about the seven Chinese or whatever it is missing scientists.

1:26:26 That was another thing I wanted to hit.

1:26:28 You know, when you see guys like McCaslin disappear,

1:26:32 when you see potentially these Chinese scientists disappear,

1:26:36 it's not like even if McCaslin isn't as spry as he was when he was 35,

1:26:41 the guy knows where a lot of bodies are buried.

1:26:45 Unless he can't remember[ __] anything.

1:26:47 He's very targetable guy.

1:26:49 Monica Reza, who at one point at least one point,

1:26:54 I think it was actually two points, they overlapped, McCaslin and and her.

1:26:57 This was a serious physicist.

1:26:59 She disappeared as well.

1:27:01 Out there who oversaw a lot of projects that have certainly a lot

1:27:07 of intel and maybe some things that you don't talk about it,

1:27:10 but definitely some things you don't talk about at dinner parties.

1:27:13 But this article from also from the Daily Mail,

1:27:16 Chinese military scientists have been dying mysteriously as 11

1:27:19 nuclear and space experts die or go missing.

1:27:21 At least nine scientists have mysteriously died in China as speculation

1:27:25 grows over the deaths and disappearances of 11 American scientists.

1:27:28 In many of the Chinese cases, the causes of death are recorded as accidents,

1:27:32 sickness, or unexplained incidents.

1:27:34 And while these explanations appear straightforward individually,

1:27:36 taken together, they are drawing increased scrutiny.

1:27:39 One of the most puzzling cases is that of Feng Yanghe,

1:27:42 a 38-year-old defense technology professor who died in July 2023.

1:27:46 He had reportedly been working on on simulations related to a potential Taiwan

1:27:51 invasion before his death in a late-night

1:27:53 car crash in Beijing, Newsweek reports.

1:27:56 Official accounts state that Fang had been leaving

1:27:57 a work meeting when the crash occurred around 2:35,

1:28:01 but speculation grew after his obituary described the scientist

1:28:03 of having been sacrificed while performing official duties,

1:28:06 wording that some observers found unusual for what was described as a accident.

1:28:11 Further attention was drawn by his burial

1:28:14 in a high-profile cemetery typically reserved for national figures.

1:28:17 Such honors are rarely associated with standard accident cases.

1:28:21 I also do want to add China is

1:28:22 a country where even their billionaires like Jack Ma,

1:28:24 if they say something wrong with the government

1:28:26 or do something wrong behind the scenes with the government,

1:28:28 they disappear because the CCP does have full control.

1:28:31 Let's keep going.

1:28:32 There was another scientist as well that they were really highlighting here.

1:28:35 Go Go down, Dave.

1:28:36 I want to want to read it.

1:28:39 Many of reports point to at least nine

1:28:41 similar deaths of Chinese scientists in recent years.

1:28:43 Many of them were working on highly

1:28:44 sensitive fields including military artificial intelligence,

1:28:48 space defense, and hypersonic weapons.

1:28:50 All stuff that other countries are going to be very interested in.

1:28:52 Among them was Zhang Shiao Jin,

1:28:54 a space expert who died in a reported car accident.

1:28:57 Also a car accident.

1:28:58 In December 2024, Chen Shir Ming, a specialist in microelectronics,

1:29:02 also died in a similar incident in 2018.

1:29:04 So, this is really making a bigger timeline, which should be noted.

1:29:07 The bigger the timeline, the higher the probability of coincidence.

1:29:12 That is true.

1:29:13 Cuz there's a lot of scientists and a lot

1:29:15 of scientists working on a lot of important stuff.

1:29:17 And we're talking about guys who are all, I'll say, allegedly dead.

1:29:22 They're not disappeared so far.

1:29:24 Chemist Zhao Zheng Wei passed away in December

1:29:27 2023 with no official cause of death disclosed.

1:29:31 Other cases included Yan Hong, who died after an illness, and Fang Danning,

1:29:35 who died following what was described as an unexpected medical episode abroad.

1:29:39 They both worked in the field of hypersonics.

1:29:42 Meanwhile, drone expert Zhang Diabing and data scientist Lu

1:29:46 Dong Ho also died under circumstances that remain unclear.

1:29:51 Hey, it's It sounds pretty straightforward and clear-cut, if you ask me.

1:29:57 At first look, me too.

1:29:59 At first look, me too.

1:30:00 Weird.

1:30:02 It's weird.

1:30:03 Nothing like an unexpected medical episode abroad, you know?

1:30:06 an unexpected med You know,

1:30:07 Kim Jong Un brings on a lot of unexpected medical episodes.

1:30:11 You know, they find a way to they hit you with something

1:30:14 He's also like the greatest golfer ever who ever lived, I think.

1:30:17 Right.

1:30:17 I think he shot like a 40.

1:30:18 He shot like a perfect score, I think.

1:30:21 Yeah.

1:30:21 That's impressive.

1:30:22 It's very impressive.

1:30:23 That's impressive.

1:30:23 He's got a man of many talents, apparently.

1:30:26 A hug from the supreme leader would fix everything.

1:30:29 I guess so.

1:30:29 I know it would.

1:30:30 Yeah.

1:30:31 I'm I'm going to look at this some more.

1:30:32 It It's weird.

1:30:34 We'll talk about it.

1:30:35 We're talking about it.

1:30:37 But don't lose focus of what's up front.

1:30:39 Mhm.

1:30:39 One last thing to close, that Wall Street Journal wrap up Trump WSJ report.

1:30:46 You see that down there?

1:30:47 Yeah, let me pull this up.

1:30:49 So, I I mentioned this at the beginning.

1:30:51 I wanted to hit this.

1:30:52 This is This is a summary from Mario Nawfal.

1:30:56 I'll read this and give a few thoughts.

1:30:58 The Wall Street Journal just dropped a bombshell

1:30:59 report on the inside story of the Iran war.

1:31:01 The key revelations Trump used to call the Middle East

1:31:04 blood and sand and wanted nothing to do with it.

1:31:06 Then Netanyahu gave him a persuasive February briefing in the situation room

1:31:10 backed by repeated calls from Lady Lindsey Graham and Trump changed his mind.

1:31:15 He thought it would be as easy as Venezuela,

1:31:17 which is in line with a what a couple sources of mine said before he did it.

1:31:21 Trump was in all of the scale of the bombs,

1:31:24 watching clips of explosions every morning,

1:31:25 but he did little to sell the American public on the war

1:31:28 and grew frustrated when he didn't get praised for it.

1:31:30 His own team showed him midterm polling

1:31:32 that proved the war was dragging down Republican candidates.

1:31:35 Who could have guessed that?

1:31:36 He quickly began ruminating on how the military

1:31:38 action could turn into a catastrophe on the strait.

1:31:41 Trump told his team before the war

1:31:42 that Iran would likely capitulate before closing the strait.

1:31:44 His advisers were caught off guard.

1:31:47 The tanker traffic stopped so quickly.

1:31:48 Trump later marveled at the ease with which the strait was closed,

1:31:52 saying a guy with a drone can shut it down.

1:31:55 How about that?

1:31:56 By late March, before the F-15 was even shot down,

1:31:59 Trump ordered his team to find a way to start talks.

1:32:01 The war was already over in his mind weeks before the ceasefire.

1:32:05 His aides begged him to stop doing

1:32:06 impromptu interviews because he was contradicting himself publicly.

1:32:09 He agreed to stop, then went right back to calling reporters.

1:32:13 The April 1st address to the nation was Susie

1:32:15 Wiles' idea to reassure the country Trump had a plan.

1:32:19 Trump didn't want to do it because in his own words,

1:32:20 he couldn't declare victory and didn't know where it was going.

1:32:23 The report paints a picture of a president who

1:32:25 was talked into a war by Netanyahu and Graham,

1:32:27 realized it was a mistake within weeks,

1:32:29 spent the rest of the conflict looking for the exit

1:32:31 and was frustrated that nobody would give him credit along the way.

1:32:34 The war was an impulse sold by an ally with different objectives,

1:32:37 enabled by advisers who couldn't say no,

1:32:39 and sustained by a president who was too proud

1:32:41 to admit the mistake until the economy forced his hand.

1:32:44 Again, if he gets up and leaves this war,

1:32:50 takes the accepts the chips that have been stupidly put on the table as gone,

1:32:56 but doesn't try to throw good money after bad,

1:32:59 I will appreciate something over nothing, if you will.

1:33:05 But, when we are looking at the economic

1:33:08 ramifications of this and the potential questions of like,

1:33:11 "Oh my god, is the petrodollar going to be

1:33:13 the petroyuan now?" Because of all the problems with the Strait.

1:33:17 As bad as Iran is, we didn't have the issues

1:33:23 with like the Strait of Hormuz[ __] closing on and off,

1:33:28 if you will, until we did this.

1:33:32 And this is what I've talked about with the third,

1:33:34 fourth, fifth, and tenth order effects.

1:33:36 We have created problems where they didn't previously exist because

1:33:41 we decided to play world police and the moral superiority police.

1:33:44 And unfortunately, the world does not work that way.

1:33:47 I don't like when there's tyrannical governments

1:33:49 that kill their own people and harm other people.

1:33:51 I hate it.

1:33:53 Said that a million times till I'm blue in the face.

1:33:55 I have no love for the Iranian regime.

1:33:57 But like we have pissed on a hornet's nest because unfortunately in a country

1:34:02 of 93 million people we have now more entrenched arguably that government

1:34:09 and this this is not you're trying to go on their land

1:34:15 on their home turf which is very very geographically protected I might add.

1:34:20 Not a good strategy.

1:34:25 I hope this ends.

1:34:27 I did appreciate Trump saying that no one should be able to use a nuclear

1:34:30 weapon and he said directly like I'm not

1:34:32 planning on using nuclear weapon in on Iran.

1:34:35 That was a great take.

1:34:36 I appreciate that.

1:34:37 Took long enough but listen I'm calling balls and strikes around here.

1:34:41 I will appreciate it if the president ends the war

1:34:44 and tries to mend some economic fences not the least

1:34:47 of which is our Gulf allies who have been the most

1:34:51 affected by this I as collateral damage I would say.

1:34:55 And who should have been consulted a lot more.

1:34:58 I know there's a lot of reports about MBS

1:35:00 telling from Saudi Arabia telling Trump to do this.

1:35:03 That's a separate issue.

1:35:05 All those Gulf states surrounding Iran whose security is directly

1:35:09 impacted by this you know not a good look diplomatically.

1:35:17 Diplomacy wise if you will.

1:35:19 But that's what I got for this week.

1:35:22 I told you I was struggling today Dief.

1:35:23 I hope that went okay.

1:35:25 I don't think you struggled pal.

1:35:26 I think we just saved the world again.

1:35:28 That's what we try to do.

1:35:29 We saved the world.

1:35:30 in a row.

1:35:31 We saved the world here in Hoboken but thank

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1:35:51 Give it a thought, get back to me.

1:35:53 Peace.