If You Watch One Video About Trump and Epstein, Watch This One

0:00 He also told her that if she insisted on following

0:03 through this with this, she was going to hurt his friends.

0:06 She told me the day he told her that.

0:09 Her whose friends?

0:10 Uh, the President Trump's friends.

0:13 His friends.

0:14 Um, and I suppose some of them have been hurt.

0:17 Howard Lutnick was shown to be a bald-faced liar.

0:24 You initiated discharge petition.

0:28 And to force to force a vote on this.

0:30 And what was the response you got from the White House?

0:34 Uh, so I actually had at least

0:37 a dozen co-sponsors on my Epstein Files Transparency Act.

0:41 And I thought, well,

0:44 I've got I'll get a dozen Repub- dozen By the way, dozen Republican co-sponsors.

0:48 I thought, well, this will be easy.

0:49 I've already got a dozen who'll sign the discharge petition.

0:52 Well, it turns out most of those people chickened out.

0:57 Would not sign the discharge petition under pressure from the president.

1:00 In fact, I ran into the legislative affairs director

1:04 for the White House on the street on Independence Avenue, Jeff Freeland.

1:08 Just randomly while I was trying to get more signatures

1:12 and while he was trying to keep people from signing it,

1:15 we just randomly met at a crosswalk.

1:18 And I said, listen, I know what your job I know you're just doing your job.

1:23 And I'll be with you 90% of the time,

1:25 but in this instance, I'm I'm compelled to do this.

1:30 And um, I said, and by the way, I made a mistake.

1:34 I got co-sponsors on this bill.

1:35 So now you got your whip list.

1:37 I know you're going to the 12 people who originally co-sponsored it.

1:40 If I ever do this again,

1:41 I'm not getting co-sponsors and showing you my road map.

1:45 And um, there was, you know,

1:47 there was mutual respect there as two people working on two different things.

1:51 He was He said to me, he said,

1:53 "You're moving too fast for me." Like he couldn't keep up.

1:57 There was only one of him and I was I moving around and and getting

2:01 people to put their names on it and getting people not to take their names off.

2:04 By the way, I have to give credit

2:06 to the three absolute three bravest there There's

2:10 nobody if I go back to Congress next week and somebody comes up to me and says,

2:13 "I saw you on Tucker Carlson and you didn't say

2:15 I was brave." I'll say too bad cuz you weren't.

2:19 There's [laughter] There's three women, Nancy Mace, Marjorie Taylor Greene,

2:26 and Lauren Boebert who signed their names

2:28 on that discharge petition and all suffered.

2:31 Marjorie practically gave up her political career over this.

2:35 Yes, she did.

2:36 Um she got She and her children got death threats over this.

2:40 Not from the left.

2:42 From the right.

2:44 Um and then And she went to President Trump and said my one

2:47 of my children is getting death threats and he said that's your fault.

2:49 Yeah.

2:50 Despicable.

2:50 He also told her that if she insisted on following

2:54 through this with this, she was going to hurt his friends.

2:57 She told me the day he told her that.

3:00 Hurt whose friends?

3:01 Uh the President Trump's friends.

3:04 His friends.

3:05 Um and I suppose some of them have been hurt.

3:08 Howard Lutnick was shown to be a bald-faced liar.

3:12 Right?

3:13 Um and it turns out that uh John Paulson one of the three

3:19 billionaires who've put money into MAGA Kentucky is was in Epstein's phone book.

3:25 But also was implicated in these files is doing of a fundraiser and reaching

3:30 out to Jeffrey Epstein to get money from him to honor Howard Lutnick.

3:35 Um So it's By the way,

3:38 it's just a really small world when you get into the billionaires.

3:41 Um and they're not partisans.

3:44 They're above party, right?

3:45 The Epstein class, they don't associate themselves

3:49 as Republicans or Democrats so much as they

3:51 do among a class of billionaires who are above all of that, above the judges.

3:57 They've They've They've got visa waivers, they fly private planes,

4:02 they don't mingle with the public whether it's on a plane or in a courtroom.

4:07 And um so anyways, that's my hat's off

4:10 to to Marjorie for taking on those threats.

4:13 Lauren Boebert, um they took her over to the situation room, right?

4:18 Like this is where if they're trying to kill or capture Osama bin Laden,

4:23 this is where they are.

4:24 At the White House.

4:25 They took her into the situation room and tried to whip

4:29 her into taking her name off of the discharge petition.

4:32 Over Epstein.

4:33 Over Epstein, yep.

4:34 And then the president vetoed a bill that would

4:37 have brought water to a large portion of Colorado.

4:40 Like over Epstein.

4:42 Over Epstein.

4:43 And this isn't even At this point it's not just about Lauren Boebert.

4:46 Why are people in Colorado deprived of water?

4:50 Because their representative wants to expose a sex trafficking ring.

4:55 I mean none of this makes any sense at all

4:58 because it's a losing issue for Trump and has been

5:01 That was the beginning of the end really for I

5:03 mean I think we're at the end of the 2024 campaign.

5:07 It's just total betrayal of everything.

5:08 But that that began with Epstein last summer.

5:12 And Trump's now famous attack on his own voters,

5:16 if you think this is important to know more about Epstein,

5:19 I don't want your support.

5:21 Why do you think Epstein of all issues is the one

5:25 that Donald Trump was willing to destroy his presidency over?

5:29 I don't know.

5:29 It's I mean I did it because it was the right thing to do.

5:32 I understand your motive, but the president pushed back now.

5:35 He's endorsed this campaign against you and your family.

5:40 And but really just sort of hurt himself

5:42 on behalf of the memory of Jeffrey Epstein.

5:44 Like what There's something here, no?

5:47 Like what is this?

5:48 Uh I think he's he's changed some and he's part he the promise of Donald Trump

5:56 negotiate on anything including immigration.

5:59 It's like no problem, we'll give them citizenship.

6:01 But when it comes to Epstein, it's like no.

6:04 And it does raise questions about like how

6:05 did Epstein die and who signed off on that?

6:07 And why was Epstein re-arrested actually for crimes

6:10 he'd already been convicted of and brought back

6:12 from France to the United States and then

6:14 gets murdered in prison less than 2 months later.

6:16 Like what is that?

6:18 And maybe there's a connection or I don't know, I'm just guessing.

6:20 Like what is this?

6:21 It's the people who are funding the ballroom,

6:25 the people who are funding the arch,

6:28 the people who are funding the rebranding of the Kennedy Center.

6:31 These are the people who are also funding my opponent.

6:35 These are the people who have the ear of the president.

6:37 These are the people who are changing, dominating our foreign policy decisions.

6:42 They're the billionaires and these are also

6:44 the same people who are in the Epstein files.

6:48 By large part or their friends are, their social associates.

6:51 stop and I I I want everyone to just stop and rewind the tape.

6:55 What did you say then?

6:56 Okay, maybe just answer the question.

6:58 I think I did.

7:00 I tried to answer the question.

7:03 Buh, there are my arms just went up.

7:04 Um Okay.

7:07 So By the way, by the way, you touched on something I that I want to comment on.

7:12 There there are still a lot of files that haven't been released.

7:15 I don't care whether it's 3 million files or whether

7:17 it's 300 files that they still need to get out there.

7:20 But the kind of files they haven't released,

7:22 they are uh uh breaking the law by not releasing them.

7:26 They They, you mean Department of Justice?

7:28 Department of Justice, Todd Blanche now.

7:30 And he's he he, by the way,

7:32 could be criminally prosecuted by the next Attorney General.

7:35 This is the great thing about passing a law instead of issuing a subpoena.

7:39 This They didn't do this in Watergate.

7:41 They didn't do this in Iran Contra, they had commissions, they had committees,

7:45 they had subpoenas, whether it was uh you know, Bill Clinton's issue.

7:51 This is the first time, the Epstein Files Transparency Act,

7:54 where a member of Congress, or members of Congress,

7:57 got a law passed, passed in the House and the Senate,

7:59 signed by the President, to compel the release of documents.

8:02 What does that mean?

8:03 Why is it different?

8:04 Because every subpoena from Congress expires at the end of Congress.

8:08 This law never expires.

8:10 This law, unless they can get a House and a Senate and a President to repeal it,

8:15 [laughter] is in effect for infinity.

8:18 If 50 years from now, if there's an Attorney General who is like

8:22 cleaning out a drawer and finds some Epstein files,

8:24 they have 30 days to release them.

8:26 It's It's incumbent on We didn't name Pam Bondi,

8:29 we said the Attorney General of the United States.

8:31 As long as there is an Attorney General of the United States,

8:34 that cabinet position may go away before

8:36 the Epstein Files Transparency Act goes away.

8:39 Um cuz it's forever.

8:41 But, let me tell you the category of documents that will

8:43 eventually be released that haven't been released that you touched on.

8:47 Um we said in the Epstein Files Transparency Act that you have to the DOJ, FBI,

8:54 and US Attorneys have to release internal memos and emails

8:59 about decisions on whether to prosecute or not prosecute,

9:02 about decisions on whether to investigate or not investigate.

9:06 And right now, the Attorney General is claiming

9:08 something called deliberative process privilege that they use

9:12 when they want to keep Freedom of Information

9:14 Act files from getting out or to redact them.

9:17 They say that, and it's a long-standing rule for Freedom of Information

9:22 Act that the government only has to give you the final work product.

9:26 They don't have to show you their math, the internal deliberations of a policy.

9:31 They just have to give you the end point.

9:33 But, anticipating this and having served

9:36 on the Judiciary Committee for a long time,

9:38 and having had Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray tell me,

9:43 "Well, that's the subject of an ongoing investigation,

9:45 and we don't have to give you that, or that's deliberative process,

9:48 and we don't have to give you that." Anticipating that, I

9:50 put into law that they have to give me that.

9:53 And the president signed that law.

9:55 And yet, they are asserting that my law doesn't

9:57 apply to their deliberative process privilege, and they're wrong.

10:01 It won't withstand 30 minutes in a courtroom, their legal thesis.

10:06 Every first-year law student knows that new

10:09 laws override the ones that existed before.

10:13 And so, I think eventually, there will be a forum.

10:16 Some survivor will sue the Attorney General

10:19 or the government for not releasing those particular files,

10:23 and it'll get adjudicated, and we'll get more files.

10:26 Did Do you ever ask anyone in the administration or the Congress, like,

10:30 why is this a hard thing

10:32 for a Republican administration that was elected to quote,

10:35 "Drain the swamp" to do?

10:36 Why would it be hard?

10:38 You would think, since most people identified in the Epstein

10:40 files were partisan Democrats and donors to the Democratic Party,

10:44 you'd think it'd be pretty easy for Republicans to be like, "Yeah,

10:46 this is the other guys did

10:47 this." And there were some Republicans, but not really.

10:49 It's mostly Democrats in those files.

10:51 So, why would it Why is it so hard?

10:53 Like, what the hell are we What is this?

10:56 Well, Pam Bondi, when I cross-examined

10:58 her in a hearing while she was still Attorney General,

11:01 about the Epstein files, she protested to me that you know,

11:07 this also went on under the Biden administration.

11:09 And I said, "Of course it did." And right, that's the point.

11:12 on under the Obama administration, and the Bush administration.

11:15 Like, it spanned four administrations,

11:18 five administrations, counting Trump twice.

11:20 And I told her, "You're just responsible

11:22 for this portion of the cover-up, right?" So,

11:25 the reason they I think they don't want to admit that they have covered this up,

11:30 is then they have admit that there are two

11:32 tiers of justice in this country and that every administration,

11:36 at least every attorney general, has been in on it.

11:40 That is exactly right.

11:42 There are two tiers of justice and some people seem to be immune

11:46 from law and some people are just henpecked to death by the law.

11:53 Um And And that's why I want to know

11:55 their decision process because then we'll find out in 2008 why

11:59 did they give Jeffrey Epstein a light sentence when they

12:02 had him dead to rights to lock him up and throw we will find out?

12:06 I think eventually.

12:07 Cuz the law goes forever.

12:09 And I think just by random selection

12:12 we'll eventually end up with an attorney general,

12:14 if they don't delete the files before that attorney general sits in the seat,

12:18 whoever that may be.

12:19 Do you have any sense of how much hasn't been released from that case?

12:22 Um well, I know that set of particular files haven't been released.

12:26 I know that they put some files up and took them back down.

12:30 And they've not put them back up again.

12:32 And you may say, "Well,

12:33 don't you Didn't people get archives of those files while they were up?

12:37 Why do you care that the files haven't been put up again?" Yes.

12:41 It's because I have the ability to go look at unredacted files over at the DOJ.

12:47 And some of the files that I wanted

12:49 to look at unredacted because I believe they implicate

12:52 co-conspirators with Jeffrey Epstein haven't been put back

12:55 up onto the public site nor the private site.

12:57 So, I can't go look at documents

13:00 unredacted that may contain the names of co-conspirators.

13:04 Until they put those files back in the system.

13:07 for protecting co-conspirators?

13:09 Uh well, they said they're protecting uh victims, okay?

13:13 But if you're protecting victims, and so you had to take the document down,

13:16 then what you do is you redact all the information

13:18 that would hurt the victim and then you put it back up.

13:21 But they haven't put it back up, so I haven't been able to look at that.

13:24 Then there are files over there the DOJ

13:26 claims were redacted before they came into their possession.

13:30 And so, when I try to unredact them, I can't see beyond the redactions.

13:35 And the DOJ says, "Sorry, that's just the way we received them." Well,

13:38 the fact of the matter is they need to go back to the US

13:41 attorneys and the FBI that gave them those redacted documents and said,

13:45 "Give us the unredacted documents." But, they haven't done that yet.

13:48 And then there's another category of files that are missing.

13:51 In talking to the survivors' lawyers,

13:54 uh the survivors have indicated that there's

13:57 no evidence of their testimony in these files.

14:01 Like, they know it exists.

14:02 They sat down with the FBI, they did an interview,

14:04 and the FBI agents are obligated to summarize that interview,

14:08 at least provide a summary in a 302 form.

14:11 Well, they can't even find their own 302

14:13 forms in the in the uh release of information.

14:16 So, we know not everything has been released.

14:19 And I also know they're releasing more stuff, just quietly doing it,

14:23 because when I go over there and look

14:24 for things and find that they've redacted a man's name

14:27 who may be a co-conspirator and threaten on the internet

14:31 that they've done this, then they have released files.

14:33 For instance, with Leslie Wexner.

14:36 He's the billionaire who resides in Ohio.

14:39 Pam Bondi, her when [clears throat] I pointed out

14:41 to her that she had redacted his name from the files,

14:44 she said, "Well, we've His name appears

14:46 thousands of times in the files." I said,

14:48 "Yes, but in the one instance where it appears on an FBI

14:51 document listing him as a co-conspirator in a child sex trafficking ring,

14:55 his name has been redacted.

14:56 In the only one place where it implicates him, you redacted it." And so,

15:01 I know what your question is, it was my question to her.

15:03 Who redacted it?

15:05 They're not giving interns a bucket of Sharpies

15:08 and a bunch of documents spread out and saying,

15:10 "Go draw a line through anything you don't

15:12 think should be released." It's all on a computer,

15:15 and you have to log in, and every redaction belongs to somebody.

15:19 So, what I want to know, and I asked Pam Bondi and she refused to tell

15:22 me is who particularly redacted that one instance of Leslie Wexner.

15:27 If you were going to If you were the least bit curious, you'd want to know.

15:31 Do you know if the Department of Justice

15:32 in this administration has spoken to Leslie Wexner?

15:36 Um the oversight committee called him over there and asked him some questions.

15:42 The Department of Justice did not.

15:44 They mysteriously lost interest in Leslie

15:47 Wexner after listing him as a co-conspirator.

15:51 So they never they never even talked to him.

15:53 Never.

15:54 They They had some correspondence with an attorney

15:56 and decided they didn't need to talk to him.

15:59 Even though he paid for the whole thing.

16:00 Yeah.

16:01 And um so the you know, they should be wondering like this is why I want to know

16:09 about that decision of not Why did they not talk to Leslie Wexner?

16:13 That's in an email or a memo somewhere and the clear language of the law

16:17 that I wrote requires them to release it and they won't and they haven't.

16:20 And that's That's what we need to know is why did

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