Ivy's Livestream! - Live in the Nutmeg Tavern

0:00 This is how you do it, right?

0:02 That's not [music] too much, is it?

0:04 All right.

0:04 Uh welcome everyone into the Nutmeg Tavern.

0:07 I am your host today and I am not [music] John Townsend.

0:10 Um happy April late Fools' Day.

0:13 Um we decided today that because for April Fools'

0:17 we were going to switch things around in the tavern.

0:20 So, I am Ivy Yorka.

0:23 Sorry.

0:23 Sorry.

0:24 And I am usually back there on the other

0:28 side of the time vortex running the live stream.

0:31 And today I am not.

0:33 Dad is doing that today and he is running the console.

0:37 Say hello, Dad.

0:38 Um I'm here, right here.

0:41 And Lauren is in the chat today as she always is.

0:45 I wanted to do something where we

0:47 switched everything around and Lauren was running

0:49 the console and uh Dad was doing the chat and I was up here,

0:54 but No, I didn't want to do that.

0:56 No one else wanted to change roles, only me.

0:59 I'm having fun, though.

1:00 Dad's having fun, though.

1:01 So, that's that's why he That's another reason why he wanted

1:05 to do this is because he didn't want to be up here today.

1:08 So, today we're talking about a few different things.

1:12 The first thing we're talking about is my recent trip that I took.

1:17 So, me and my husband recently went to Gulf Shores,

1:20 Alabama and we visited these two really awesome forts.

1:25 I would definitely recommend visiting there and they were beautiful.

1:30 Um the first one we went to was Fort Morgan.

1:34 So, it's on the coast of Alabama and it's

1:37 on a peninsula that comes out from Alabama.

1:41 It's actually really close to um Mississippi.

1:44 And then Fort Gaines is the other one that we visited.

1:49 It's across a little channel.

1:51 We actually took a ferry to get there.

1:53 That was my first time on a ferry.

1:54 It was really fun.

1:55 And then Fort Gaines is on an island.

1:59 Although, there's a bridge to it now, so it's kind of not an island anymore.

2:02 But, um Fort Morgan was my favorite.

2:05 Fort Gaines was also really cool.

2:08 Um but, Fort Morgan was my favorite and we're going to talk about them today.

2:12 Um so Dad, can you figure out the slides cuz mine What?

2:18 You can't figure it out?

2:20 I It's the buttons aren't glowy.

2:23 [laughter] Okay.

2:22 Hold on, here we go.

2:24 Um there we go.

2:26 All right.

2:26 So, this is the an overhead shot of Fort Morgan.

2:30 I didn't take this picture.

2:32 Um I don't have a drone or a helicopter to take this picture with.

2:35 Uh this is a picture I found online so

2:37 that you could get a good overhead view of Fort Morgan.

2:41 Um so you come in through it's actually really cool.

2:45 You get to come in through this little tunnel that um goes into the fort.

2:50 You can see it.

2:51 It's um the brick road leads right into it

2:55 and you walk through the little um tunnel

2:57 and then into the outer Fort Morgan and um

3:03 there's a little bridge over a little stream.

3:05 It's beautiful and then you walk into the larger

3:09 um Fort Morgan and on the inside.

3:13 So, this fort was made it was originally made they they

3:19 started the um process in around 1812 for the War of 1812.

3:27 It wasn't this fort.

3:29 It was just a little log outpost and they decided after

3:33 the war was done and that fort did well that hey,

3:36 we should build an actual fort here.

3:39 So, let's see.

3:40 It was um Let me see.

3:45 Where are my dates here?

3:46 So, construction began in 1819.

3:50 But, because it's an isolated location and also people kept getting sick.

3:54 They just kept getting sick.

3:56 Um I think it was yellow fever.

3:57 I think the first the first person that built it died and then I

4:04 think another person got sick and then passed it on to his um subordinate.

4:11 And but, it finally got finished in 1834.

4:16 And this the whole structure has 46 million cubic yards of bricks.

4:23 So, it's not 46 million bricks.

4:25 That's No.

4:26 No, it's 46 million cubic yards of bricks.

4:30 And yards aren't small.

4:32 Yards are 3 ft.

4:34 cubic feet.

4:35 A brick is cubic feet.

4:36 it's cubic yards.

4:37 So, um it's huge.

4:40 It's got a ton of bricks.

4:41 I took a lot of pictures myself and you can see those in later pictures.

4:46 So, um so here you can see So, there's the main fort area and then kind

4:52 of in the center there's that part that doesn't look right.

4:57 Mhm.

4:57 That was added.

4:59 It didn't have precise dates that I could find.

5:02 It said somewhere uh like either in the Civil

5:06 War or in World War I or World War II.

5:08 So, this fort was used all the way through World War II.

5:13 I don't think it was used a lot.

5:14 Well, okay.

5:15 I think I think that it was used I didn't write that part down.

5:24 Yeah, sometimes they just use them for training or Right.

5:27 I know that this was specifically used for training

5:31 in either World War I or World War II.

5:33 I think it was World War I and then World

5:35 War II it was kind of used a little bit.

5:38 Yeah, star forts by then are kind of out of Right.

5:43 Yeah, it's a little out of date,

5:44 but I do know it was used for training and that's why

5:47 it has and then to the right you can see other concrete structures.

5:52 That was battery one and battery two,

5:54 which were added in World War specifically for World War I, I believe.

6:00 Um mostly for just storing artillery stuff and whatnot.

6:06 That kind of war stuff.

6:07 I don't know what that is.

6:08 Um and I think you can move on to the next slide, Dad.

6:13 Okay.

6:13 Off we go.

6:14 So, this I found this in Diderot's encyclopedia.

6:19 Um this is just a uh diagram of a star fort and it,

6:24 you know, all star forts are pretty similar.

6:25 This one um is a little bit more simplified than this particular one.

6:30 And then the next slide is the actual plan

6:34 that was made in 1817 um of Fort Morgan.

6:39 So, I just loved that they had this plan and it was still intact.

6:44 Um and you can see that none of those concrete structures

6:47 were in the center there in the original plan of the fort.

6:50 more decorative than what it had to be.

6:52 It probably was.

6:53 It They they kind of are a a eyesore

6:55 compared to the rest of the fort, which is beautiful.

6:58 Um and then I think in the next slide is a picture that was taken in 1864 and I

7:07 put this picture in here because I took a picture

7:10 um that is actually from almost the exact same spot.

7:15 Um Is it the next slide, I think?

7:17 It is the next slide.

7:20 So, you can see that they are of The other

7:23 one was taken a little bit lower down, a little further back,

7:25 but it's of the same section of the fort and it hasn't obviously it's changed,

7:29 but it hasn't changed a lot.

7:31 It even has the um the little water channel that goes through it.

7:37 Um which it just It was just so pretty there.

7:41 Um [snorts] and you can keep going with the slides.

7:44 So, this is the entrance of um Fort Morgan.

7:48 That's me walking into it.

7:50 I love the idea of going into it through a tunnel.

7:52 I did.

7:52 It That was so fun.

7:55 And uh I liked it for the experience of visiting the fort.

7:59 I'm sure it had more practical purposes than just being really cool, [laughter]

8:04 but So, this is part of the original structure.

8:06 Yes, it is.

8:07 So, isn't it interesting?

8:09 When we were at um St.

8:12 Augustine, they had the entrance was like a little drawbridge.

8:17 Yeah.

8:17 And you were elevated over this.

8:19 In this one they decided to sink it through the tunnel.

8:23 on the lower level.

8:24 Right.

8:26 Okay.

8:28 That's me looking out from the fort.

8:29 Behind me you can see the concrete structures that have been added in later.

8:35 It looks like they must use pretty decent brick.

8:37 Yeah, I mean it still looks in great condition.

8:40 Yeah.

8:42 Of course, they don't have the freezing and thawing, so Yeah, that would help.

8:48 helps.

8:47 And this is the outside.

8:50 This is the outside of the inside, if that makes any sense.

8:53 [laughter] Um so, it's like there was the big outside that you had

8:57 to walk the through the tunnel to and then you walked into this area,

9:01 which is still the outside of the fort,

9:03 but the inner fort is the part with all the bricks in it.

9:10 Mhm.

9:09 So, this I thought it was really cool.

9:12 All the water comes down and it drips through the bricks and it

9:17 forms stalactites and stalagmites They have a little cave in the wall.

9:22 It's like a cave, but it's um but with bricks.

9:25 And it this it the whole building is filled with this.

9:30 Um it um tons and tons of arches with the beautiful

9:36 brick and that it it was it was beautiful there.

9:40 And impressive, really.

9:41 very impressive.

9:42 Do you remember the picture we have of the main fort?

9:45 Yes.

9:45 Yeah.

9:46 Where Where it looks very much like this picture,

9:49 but like Mom and Sydney and me when when Sydney and I were like eight and 10,

9:55 somewhere around in there.

9:56 We're actually a little younger, actually.

9:58 Um and we're we're standing at in different arches.

10:01 So Mom's like in the furthest back arch and then Sydney and then me.

10:05 And then we had recreated it like about 5 years ago at one of our trips.

10:09 Very And like it's always so beautiful to see these older architectural pieces

10:13 and they they I I'm not sure that like it's a very practical building,

10:17 but they turned out beautifully.

10:19 Right.

10:19 And this is 200 years old, some of it.

10:23 Yeah.

10:26 So this was a structure that I didn't know what it was at first.

10:31 I had to read the little sign.

10:33 Um and [snorts] this is I'm not exactly sure what you call the structure itself.

10:40 It's an oven.

10:41 It's just Yeah, it's it's an oven, but it's an oven for cannonballs.

10:45 Yes, it's a hot shot oven.

10:47 Yes.

10:48 And this is um so you put the cannonballs in and then

10:53 it it's heated up to very hot temperatures and then they come out.

10:57 And this was right next to where some of the um uh the cannons were

11:03 positioned and it was specifically for um

11:08 for um burning through the hulls of wooden ships.

11:17 Mhm.

11:16 So at St.

11:17 Augustine they had exactly the same kind of oven.

11:21 Was this one inside the No, this one was outside the Well, yeah.

11:26 Same thing at St.

11:27 Augustine.

11:27 It's outside of this the main construction.

11:31 So.

11:31 Which I wasn't sure how they transported

11:33 the burning hot cannonballs to the cannons.

11:37 They had They've got um special I have like ice tongs,

11:42 a special holder that you would grab them all.

11:45 And and I'm sure even when they're 3 ft away from you

11:48 they were still still still don't want to be close to them,

11:50 especially since it's hot there already.

11:52 Yeah, exactly.

11:53 So I've got a couple questions.

11:54 Yes.

11:55 Um could you recap How long did it take?

11:57 It's they started it in 1819 and they finished it in 1834.

12:02 Okay.

12:02 So it took quite some years.

12:06 Yeah.

12:06 It took a long time and that was dying.

12:08 Yep, yes, people kept dying and also it's it's on a peninsula,

12:13 so it's kind of hard to get to unless you know,

12:18 it's now and there's lots of Yeah.

12:20 um and there's lots of roads that get to it.

12:25 There's only one one road that gets to it.

12:27 And I'm also sure that it flooded multiple times and um because when we were

12:34 coming along um there was a seawall that went uh along the um the inner side?

12:46 The outer side, I think.

12:50 Yeah, it came along the outer side.

12:51 Yeah, I imagine a storm could come along

12:53 and sort of try to melt your building away.

12:57 Yeah.

12:58 Which I was kind of surprised Well,

13:00 you were driving along and all of the buildings were on stilts.

13:04 Every single one of them along the whole area, they were all on stilts.

13:09 Well, So this last week we had tons and tons of rain,

13:12 more than we normally get and it did

13:14 quite a bit more flooding than it normally does.

13:16 And uh it was making me glad I was on a second story.

13:19 You're like, yes, I would like to be up off the ground.

13:21 Yes.

13:22 Yes, I would like to be on stilts right now.

13:26 [snorts]

13:25 And then um the uh another question I had.

13:28 Do you know what camera you were using?

13:30 Cuz the picture is my phone camera.

13:32 Do for all the pictures?

13:33 Oh, turned out great.

13:34 Yeah.

13:35 Okay.

13:36 What's that?

13:38 Okay, are we ready to jump back in?

13:40 Yes, we are.

13:41 Okay.

13:43 Here we go.

13:45 All right, so this is an overhead shot of Fort Gaines.

13:49 Um I don't have as much information about Fort Gaines because I don't know,

13:53 I just couldn't find as much information about it.

13:56 Um It was um

13:59 So these are on opposite sides of the same sort of inlet, right?

14:03 they are.

14:03 Very very typical kind of operation there.

14:07 Go ahead.

14:08 So this one was It was designed in 1818, so around the same time as Fort Morgan.

14:17 It actually says it that Fort Morgan is its twin fort.

14:22 But of course this one hasn't had any of the Well,

14:27 I don't know if this one had added on to it,

14:30 but I know that this one wasn't used as much Yeah.

14:33 it for um either of the World Wars

14:37 or or the Civil War because um it's on an island,

14:41 so it's harder [clears throat] to get to.

14:43 It's not as accessible for training purposes.

14:45 It's just not as useful for that.

14:48 um And so this is the inside.

14:51 Um it had kind of these identical rooms on each corner.

14:56 Um on top there was, you know, where the cannon was positioned and then there

14:59 were stairs that went down into this room here.

15:03 So this is the top and then kind of past

15:06 the cannon on the left is where the stairs would go down.

15:10 And I think the next slide is probably the stairs.

15:13 No.

15:14 Oh, this is the seawall that went along next to Fort Morgan.

15:18 And it was really long and it was great to walk down.

15:20 It was about the width of a sidewalk and it was and it

15:24 was up high enough that I wasn't worried about a snake biting my feet.

15:28 So [laughter] that made me happy.

15:30 We did see lizards though.

15:31 I didn't see any snakes.

15:33 The land of snakes.

15:35 Ah, yes.

15:35 There we go.

15:36 There's the stairs that go down into the room.

15:40 um And I Yeah.

15:45 Stairs.

15:46 So this was one of the rooms that was actually completely filled with sand.

15:51 So this So you can crawl in through the little

15:58 opening you see there and then on the left

16:01 at the far left of this picture you can see

16:03 that there's a door that's actually buried in the sand.

16:08 Um and it like this is a huge room and it was completely filled with sand.

16:13 So this was one of the outer rooms um that was close to the ocean.

16:18 So it just I don't know how it got filled with sand.

16:21 I'm assuming that there was a hurricane or something and it just Ooh.

16:24 actually filled in there.

16:26 Yeah.

16:28 And there's the rest of it.

16:29 And you can see like it is 3/4 full of sand.

16:33 Yeah.

16:34 You can stand a short person.

16:36 I could.

16:38 Lauren would be able to stand up in there.

16:39 I had to crouch a little bit in most places.

16:43 like an oven back there.

16:44 Yeah, it does.

16:45 The back there was where they put um was for storing um powder and Ah.

16:51 a magazine.

16:52 Yes, it was a magazine back there.

16:56 [snorts]

16:56 So this brings us to the second part of the livestream.

16:58 You can come back out to me.

17:00 Okay.

17:02 And we're back.

17:06 Are we?

17:07 No.

17:07 No, we are.

17:08 Oh, There we go.

17:09 Ta-da.

17:10 This is why I run the livestream.

17:11 Yeah, obviously.

17:14 [laughter] Um so this second part of our livestream is Lauren

17:17 and I we make a lot of the slides for the livestreams.

17:22 And when we're making the slides, we run across pictures that we love.

17:27 We just love them and we can't use them for the livestreams.

17:31 It's really sad.

17:32 I am always so sad.

17:34 sad.

17:34 Sometimes we will use them for the livestreams,

17:36 but often Dad doesn't talk about the things that we like about them.

17:40 So I we wanted to do some pictures and just show them and why we

17:46 love them so much and why we can't really fit them into our livestream topics.

17:52 So that's another thing that we wanted to talk

17:54 about today and you can go into the slides now.

17:57 There we go.

17:58 So I picked this one because it reminded me of Fort

18:02 Morgan and Fort Gaines because it was a castle by the sea.

18:06 Even though they're forts, but a castle fort.

18:10 Same thing.

18:10 Same thing.

18:11 Um and it this is just a beautiful picture.

18:15 This is This reminds me of Sandby, but it's by John Varley.

18:20 um And it's in Ireland or Northumberland.

18:26 I don't know which one it is.

18:28 Maybe John Varley is from Northumberland.

18:30 Could be.

18:31 Yeah, a lot of times we'll look at some

18:33 of these pictures and they the artist did such

18:36 a beautiful job that you really just want to step

18:38 through the painting and go visit what they captured.

18:42 Yes, it's beautiful and there's a little dog out there.

18:44 Mhm?

18:44 Having a fun time?

18:45 gambling about.

18:46 I can't tell what she's doing.

18:48 I think she's drawing.

18:51 I don't know.

18:53 I don't Kind of looks to like she's drawing.

18:58 Anyway, you can continue.

19:00 I'm I'm trying to fix something I broke.

19:02 Oh.

19:02 Hold on.

19:03 Uh-oh.

19:04 We'll we'll get there some of these days.

19:06 See See, look.

19:06 I figured out how to do something.

19:08 Oh, it broke it It broke it even worse.

19:10 Hold on.

19:10 [laughter] See, once again, this is why I be running See,

19:15 this is why I didn't want to run the OBS program.

19:17 just trying to have fun here and see what happens and it's

19:21 But see, I never try and have fun [laughter] when I'm running the livestream.

19:26 There.

19:26 Yeah, it's still not perfect, but Yay, we fixed it.

19:30 There.

19:30 Okay.

19:31 Oh, look at that.

19:31 Next Next, I tried to zoom in and it didn't work out.

19:36 This one I actually took a picture that was similar to this one,

19:39 although I don't think I actually made it into a slide.

19:42 um It that was in Fort Morgan.

19:46 um which is another reason why I used this one.

19:48 I So these slides are 16 by 9

19:51 and sometimes we'll just crop the picture down to 16x9.

19:55 Which we usually do if dad's doing a live stream and we

19:59 have to zoom in on something he wants to talk about anyway.

20:02 But sometimes I just can't do it because

20:05 I could have cropped this one down to 16x9.

20:08 But I I just couldn't do it because it's so I love the composition of this.

20:13 You've got the window and you can see the prisoner

20:17 and then there's just all this complete open space

20:23 and it just it you can feel that he's lonely

20:27 because of the the huge open space that he leaves.

20:30 Dad.

20:33 [laughter] Without the emptiness of the open space it does not

20:35 convey the same like it doesn't communicate the same thing.

20:38 It doesn't picture.

20:39 If I cropped this to 16x9 it just wouldn't have it

20:43 I wouldn't have felt like I was being loyal to the artist.

20:46 It's true and sometimes that happens where you're like as a live stream right

20:51 and your your your topic is about vegetables

20:54 right and the vegetables are in the far

20:55 left corner and you have to zoom in but you're like you're in love

20:58 with the whole painting and it's a feels like a crime to crop it.

21:04 [clears throat and snorts] Dad's dad dad just doesn't he doesn't get this.

21:06 Oh yes, I loved this one.

21:09 Um this one I think this is a Dr.

21:13 Syntax is what his name is.

21:15 Probably.

21:16 Oh I know actually this one.

21:18 It looks just like them.

21:19 But this is Dr.

21:21 Joseph Banks.

21:22 No, the next one is Dr.

21:24 Dr.

21:24 Joseph Banks.

21:25 This one dad's probably right about.

21:27 I didn't see this guy's name.

21:28 I'm sorry.

21:29 They look so similar.

21:30 They do look similar.

21:31 This one so in the next picture which don't go

21:35 to it yet but in the next picture he actually

21:37 has a rounded it it looks like this it looks

21:40 like the same kind of scissor net but they're rounded.

21:43 Now I've never seen a scissor net.

21:47 Not not now, right?

21:49 I know.

21:49 Why don't we have them now?

21:51 It seems like they should be.

21:53 they don't work but I don't know.

21:54 They look like they work.

21:56 Maybe they're You would think it would actually be

21:59 easier to get a butterfly out of it intact.

22:01 Yes, I would.

22:02 I would think that would be easier.

22:05 This one it really seems like it would

22:07 kill the butterfly to catch it in the net.

22:09 But you don't the net doesn't seem loose enough, yeah.

22:12 Yeah.

22:12 It's not going to hurt a butterfly.

22:14 Well, I hope not.

22:15 But I mean it would keep the wings from being damaged.

22:18 this butterfly.

22:20 Yeah, well.

22:20 He's he's going to escape.

22:21 Good job, butterfly.

22:22 But this is very classic Rowlandson in the artwork of it.

22:28 And here we go.

22:29 So this is Sir Joseph Banks and this is also by Rowlandson.

22:35 It's a little bit more finished and this one has a poem that goes with it.

22:39 So this one is Sir Joseph Banks and the Emperor of Morocco.

22:43 I don't really know what the Emperor of Morocco's about I think

22:46 it's the flower talking about I mean I think it's the butterfly sorry.

22:50 I think it's the butterfly talking.

22:53 The butterfly's talking?

22:54 Yes, the butterfly is possibly saying the poem for all we know.

22:58 Um let's see.

23:00 So the poem is Low down the lane alert

23:04 the Emperor flew and struck once more Sir Joseph's hawk-like view.

23:09 And now he mounted or garden wall.

23:12 In rushed Sir Joseph at the garden door knocked down the gardener what could

23:19 man do more and left him as he chose to rise or to sprawl.

23:24 So um that's the poem that goes with this painting

23:27 that you can't that wasn't included in the picture.

23:31 Um and Sir Joseph Banks was a English naturalist,

23:35 a botanist and a patron of the natural scientist sciences.

23:39 And he was born in 1743 and he died in 1820.

23:44 So Lauren and I were thinking that this was perhaps Rowlandson knew the

23:53 [laughter] um uh it's Sir Joseph.

23:55 [snorts] I don't think he did but it would be funny if he did.

23:58 It would be really me it would be so funny

23:59 if this was a depiction of a real life event.

24:02 Now what I thought was interesting was I didn't hadn't actually noticed the poor

24:05 gardener who's been trampled until the poem came up and and I was reading it.

24:09 take me a second to realize the gardener because you're so focused on the net

24:14 and he's like focused on the action shot of the butterfly trying to get away.

24:19 And I don't think this is just knocking down the gardener.

24:22 This is flat you know walking over the poor gardener just to get his butterfly.

24:28 a single-minded focus this butterfly hunter.

24:31 In the Aubrey Maturin series um Maturin

24:35 talks about a lot about Sir Joseph Banks.

24:38 You'll hear his name popping up over and over again.

24:40 Yes.

24:46 Um this one is by Sandby.

24:48 I put a lot by Sandby in here because I just I I love his art.

24:53 It is so beautiful.

24:54 It is so it's very identifiable as well.

25:00 Yes.

25:01 Just like Rowlandson in a very different way.

25:03 His feels very water colory.

25:07 It feels very light and airy and springy.

25:10 It feels like very appropriate to this season.

25:13 He water colors like Lauren water colors uh without putting a lot of shading in.

25:20 Yeah, it's saturation can be a little lighter sometimes.

25:23 His saturation is light but it still just creates beautiful imagery.

25:27 And um but most of his paintings that I put

25:30 in here were just to share because they're just they're just so

25:34 beautiful and you just want to walk into the painting and visit

25:38 this place and it seems like a really nice day there.

25:42 Um this is by Sandby.

25:44 I thought this one was beautiful.

25:45 This one's a little darker than his other ones

25:47 but also for being night time it's still rather desaturated.

25:56 And um you can see the castle up on the hill and the stream

26:01 going by and then the um the people listening and singing music.

26:07 It's just it's It is the like time full moon

26:11 time to go out and and do some outside activities.

26:14 I think this tree shows up in about half the 18th century paintings I've Well,

26:19 I'm always very interested to see how often people reference the full moon.

26:24 Like to to us it doesn't really make

26:26 any difference whether the moon's full or not, right?

26:29 But if the moon is full you can sometimes go out

26:32 at night and and do quite like you can you can navigate around.

26:36 You could you know you can tell that they

26:38 can drive coaches at night in a full moon.

26:40 play music.

26:41 But you can play music.

26:42 It's the perfect time and that they would plan around it

26:44 and that's not something we You you could do more things.

26:48 Yes.

26:51 This one was also beautiful.

26:53 This one just reminded me of children's books.

26:58 Um I don't know.

26:59 It just it it was such a it was such a evocative picture making

27:06 you think of it just make you see what being a child is like.

27:12 Yeah.

27:13 It it's it's more common in the 19th century and as you get later

27:17 and later to kind of have this very kind of idealized view of childhood.

27:22 Yeah.

27:22 And you can it feels in the 18th century it feels much more uh practical.

27:27 You're like they're waiting for you to get old enough to put to work.

27:30 But um and here we are probably right early 19th century and you're starting

27:34 to get a you know kind of a bit more gentleness in the depiction.

27:38 Mhm.

27:38 And I love the stream.

27:39 Like to me this does remind you of being

27:41 a kid and Especially at night and remembering coming

27:45 home and the light is at the house is

27:48 all lit up but everything else is dark and Yeah,

27:52 but the author or the artist is totally

27:57 This this light coming in this magic light coming

28:00 in from the side and having to go

28:02 through these trees blah blah blah is totally fake.

28:06 This is why I'm doing this live stream.

28:08 Right?

28:09 This is why we're doing the art live stream.

28:11 It's just terrible.

28:13 This what kind of artist is this?

28:17 This one I put in solely for the person's face second to the left.

28:24 I love his face in this especially because it the artist

28:28 just captures the look perfectly for um for very few lines.

28:36 Well, notice this is Pine who we just focused on a couple of weeks ago.

28:41 But this is one of his sketches where

28:43 we're just seeing the rough And I love sketches.

28:46 I love to see what artists can do with just a sketch.

28:50 Um and just how much emotion they can put in with just a sketch.

28:54 And this is an illustration to Rob Roy.

28:57 I don't I was going to look up where in Rob

29:00 Roy it was talking about but I ran out of time.

29:02 Well, it's a drinking party.

29:06 [snorts]

29:06 Wow.

29:06 Yes.

29:06 [laughter] Yes.

29:07 There's a little bit of smoking in there, too.

29:09 Sure.

29:10 Sure.

29:11 Um That's what it said.

29:12 This is them capturing a swarm of bees.

29:16 Which I'm not sure why they're capturing this swarm of bees.

29:21 Because you want the honey.

29:23 Right?

29:24 It's like it's like a a spare, you know,

29:27 swarm that maybe you didn't have before and or it could

29:30 be that one of your swarms that was in a hive

29:33 split off and they swarmed and left and you're trying

29:35 to grab them and put them in a new hive.

29:37 Maybe.

29:38 But I I love beekeeping like the concept of it

29:41 and you don't you definitely see references to it and you

29:45 know they were doing it but you don't see a lot

29:46 of you know kind of in-depth depictions of it very often.

29:49 So I'm always excited to see them.

29:51 A few years ago we covered a book on beekeeping in one of the live streams.

29:55 [clears throat] I think this I think Lauren

29:57 probably saved this one from that live stream.

30:00 Yes.

30:00 I think this is probably the one one of the ones

30:02 where we have put it in the live stream,

30:05 but it just it's it's more fun and needs to be saved in other ways.

30:10 I think that the people are banging on pots

30:14 and pans to make the bees do certain things.

30:18 So there's people in the background.

30:19 Yes.

30:19 Do you think they're trying to chase the bees away from you?

30:23 Keep them from settling down in a particular area so

30:26 they can move them when they want them to be.

30:27 I can't remember.

30:29 If someone has bees they'll have to let us know.

30:32 Yeah.

30:32 If they tried to cook cuz cuz cuz bees are very um one

30:37 of the rare insects that we use as a as a companion animal.

30:42 Right.

30:43 I mean cuz you know mostly they're just in general.

30:45 [laughter] Bees are very friendly.

30:48 are for a person.

30:49 They absolutely are bug.

30:52 insect Next.

30:54 This one is just it it was just much too late for us to use in any live streams.

30:58 This was 7 1879 and it's much too late,

31:02 but it's just it's just a beautiful artwork and I

31:09 love that he's holding the letter in his mouth.

31:11 Oh he's digging through his bag.

31:13 I'm I'm I'm assuming that he's holding a letter in his mouth that goes

31:18 to this house and then he's looking to see if there's anything else.

31:22 I wonder why the glasses that are part

31:24 of the sign have a different color lens in each side.

31:28 I know.

31:28 It looks like it looks like uh 3D glasses Right.

31:32 Do you think maybe it was for like eye correction?

31:36 I don't know.

31:38 I think when we were doing the eye glass live stream it was talking

31:42 a bit about using like different color

31:45 lenses for different when you had different diseases.

31:47 True.

31:48 I just never seen them with different so colors in them one on each side.

31:54 This one Lauren and I were talking about when I was

31:57 making this slide and we were thinking this peddler she he saw

32:02 this woman coming from a mile away and he ran right

32:06 up to her with all his ribbons because obviously she loves ribbons.

32:11 She's got a ribbon around her hat.

32:13 She specifically put ribbons on her short gown to tie

32:18 it together and she's obviously someone who's interested in ribbons.

32:24 I'm familiar with the artist, but I have not seen this image before.

32:29 Obviously Lauren hasn't shown this one to me.

32:32 Right.

32:32 Right.

32:32 I kept this one a secret.

32:33 I didn't know if I could lure Dad in with ribbons.

32:36 I wasn't sure if it was a strong enough topic.

32:38 [clears throat] So there's a jaw harp

32:40 on the table and some wooden carved spoons etc.

32:46 And are they ribbons or are they woven bands?

32:53 Probably ribbons.

32:54 Do you think the one in her hair is a woven band?

32:57 Cuz it's very intricate.

32:59 The one she's got in her hair.

33:05 But I I am very fond of this one.

33:07 I love the colors.

33:09 Yes.

33:09 I think he's got such a pleasant face.

33:11 Yes.

33:12 Sure.

33:13 You you were comparing him to He's probably going

33:15 to hurry up and pick the one you want, okay?

33:18 And he doesn't have a hat on.

33:20 Well, his hat is down here with ribbons on it.

33:23 He wore it in Oh oh I see it down there.

33:25 He's right.

33:25 Yeah.

33:28 Maybe they're inside.

33:30 This one Dad would never ever do.

33:33 um because he doesn't The plants do not seem to interest Dad.

33:39 Shocking.

33:39 Dad doesn't like vegetables.

33:41 He doesn't like flowers.

33:44 I have our own live streams just to talk about the plants.

33:47 I am impressed with the artist on this one.

33:50 Just that's hard to draw to do a dandelion and he he captured

33:56 the curve of the dandelion puff and then he was just showing off.

34:00 This artist was just showing off in this painting.

34:03 I'm um And I do like somebody a little

34:07 earlier was talking about photography and how how odd

34:11 it was that back in the time before cameras

34:14 some of the the pictures look like they're photographs.

34:17 They're that accurate,

34:18 that detailed and that now that we have photographs that it's

34:21 actually the you know that often they're much less photorealistic than pictures.

34:27 And this one is definitely a candidate for looking almost like a photograph.

34:33 It's so good.

34:34 And most of the herbals and images that you

34:37 see of plants aren't aren't really executed very well.

34:41 No.

34:41 No, that's true.

34:42 They're much more like I'm sure they have to do

34:44 a lot of quantity and they kind of have to make them the ones I've seen up being

34:48 a lot more like line drawings and that sort of thing.

34:50 This is a very high level dandelion reproduction.

34:54 [laughter] Yeah.

34:55 Obviously they're doing it.

34:56 Well, and it's a it's a female.

34:58 It's Barbara.

34:59 Oh that's true.

34:59 Which is it is more unusual to see female artists.

35:03 Very much so in the time period.

35:07 This one I loved for Oh I should have looked up the term.

35:11 Didn't we look up this term Oh yeah.

35:13 Hold on.

35:14 Hold on.

35:15 I got it.

35:15 The nighttime kind of shot.

35:16 It's a term about the very stark change from light to dark.

35:23 And there's a specific artist that's known for it.

35:26 Rembrandt?

35:27 Rembrandt.

35:27 Yes.

35:28 I thought it was Rembrandt, but I didn't want to be wrong.

35:30 um Rembrandt is um known for it and it was

35:36 I feel like it was more used earlier in paintings.

35:42 um But it's it's still used,

35:44 but it's um just a very stark contrast of light and dark.

35:50 I think it's cuz I never remember how to say it.

35:54 Yes.

35:57 Yeah.

35:57 I say that all the time.

35:58 Sounds Italian perhaps.

36:00 Yeah.

36:00 Like most of the painters.

36:02 Yes.

36:02 Yes.

36:05 And I like his shadow on the wall behind him.

36:09 I don't know why there are so many

36:10 people in this blacksmith shop so late at night.

36:14 It's this particular artist does it over and over again.

36:17 He sometimes have little kids standing around or whatever.

36:20 And of course, you know,

36:21 if the metal was hot enough to to light up the scene that much when they hit

36:26 it with a hammer sparks would fly everywhere

36:28 and nobody would want to be close to it.

36:30 Dad's saying this is a very unsafe, not OSHA approved workplace.

36:33 [laughter] Yeah.

36:34 It's not OSHA not approved here.

36:38 So speaking of female artists, this is a drawing that Sandby did and people

36:50 are pretty sure that this is one of his pupils.

36:55 um Cuz you can see her drawing at this desk

36:57 and he has done at least two paintings of her.

37:01 um In the same at the same desk wearing similar clothing at the same window.

37:07 Well, sometimes when you got a model you just make the most of it.

37:10 You're like someone who doesn't mind sitting still.

37:11 I assume while she was drawing something he

37:15 was drawing her because he That's always a good

37:18 time to draw someone when they're busy with something

37:21 as that takes as little movement as drawing.

37:24 It's perfect.

37:27 This is a teapot with a pineapple on it.

37:30 And this is because uh my family really enjoys watching Psych and if

37:37 you get it you get it and if you don't then you don't.

37:39 Then you don't.

37:41 And okay, I was also interested by the chain on the teapot.

37:47 And why don't want to lose the lid?

37:49 I think it's so that you don't lose the lid.

37:51 That does make sense cuz sometimes that happens tab to catch it on the inside.

37:58 Yeah.

37:58 I also think the chain is very decorative.

38:01 Let's jump out for a second so that Lauren can read to some

38:04 things before we end and get to the end of the transcript.

38:11 I got to get to my little screen.

38:13 Okay.

38:14 Okay.

38:14 So Super chat from the beginning of the thing from Mandatory Carrie.

38:20 Thank you.

38:21 Thank you.

38:22 And then this is from Rob Dixon.

38:24 Hey Lauren, thanks so much for letting me shop yesterday.

38:27 You were so knowledgeable about all the items.

38:29 Thanks for your help.

38:30 Rob came in the other day.

38:31 He was traveling through, made an appointment, dropped into the store.

38:34 Great to talk to him.

38:35 So thanks.

38:36 Thank you.

38:36 Yes.

38:36 Thank you.

38:37 You're faster at this finding these people to pop up than I am.

38:40 I don't even know who that [laughter] one is.

38:41 I have my own I have a special screen for it.

38:44 And then here's one from the Wheat's Experience.

38:46 Just a super chat.

38:47 So thank you.

38:49 And then this one is from Judge Fudge.

38:51 Just came back from a motorcycle ride

38:53 and stopped by a historic graveyard in my town.

38:56 It was created in 1855.

38:59 Some people who rest there were born

39:01 in the 1760s which predated American Independence.

39:04 History is the best.

39:06 That is I love visiting old graveyards and finding

39:10 the oldest stones there and seeing the different decorations

39:13 that they have on them and if you can

39:15 read it and sometimes they have little poems on them.

39:18 I just think it's fun.

39:20 I don't really care about the newer sections.

39:22 They all have the fake flowers.

39:23 I don't boring Yeah.

39:25 I I love love going to the ones in Maine cuz they use slate.

39:30 And it just has this particular look to the stones and they just

39:33 a live stream on I think we have.

39:35 We did.

39:35 [laughter] We did do a live stream on gravestones.

39:38 [clears throat] And I mean they're just such cuz like they're you know,

39:41 the different the individual people have their own monuments.

39:44 So, it's it's beautiful.

39:47 Okay, so this one's from Speed and Style Tony

39:49 some funds to find more beautiful pictures for us.

39:52 Thank you.

39:53 We will do that.

39:54 We will keep finding beautiful pictures.

39:56 Although whether Dad will talk about them or not I I can't guarantee that.

39:59 That's okay.

40:00 Ivy can host the beautiful picture live stream

40:02 [laughter] every once in a while to catch up.

40:05 Okay, so Um I did have Sandy who'd

40:10 asked earlier and you can answer Dad this question.

40:14 They were wondering if they celebrated Easter in the 18th century.

40:18 Easter, yes.

40:22 Kind of as a very high holiday in in the church especially like it you know

40:27 a lot of uh a lot of special things they would do that time of year.

40:35 Okay, do you did you have anything you wanted to catch up on Dad?

40:40 On your side?

40:40 Okay, good.

40:41 Okay, and then this here's another super chat.

40:43 This one is from Maxar cool really enjoying the art selections today.

40:48 Thank you.

40:49 Do you like them?

40:50 Part of the Okay, most of it was Lauren really.

40:52 Okay.

40:53 Part of it was me.

40:54 I did a lot of the Sandby ones.

40:56 Lauren did a lot of the Lauren found a lot of the other

40:58 ones and then I selected them out of the ones Lauren found.

41:01 So Right, but I mean at least Ivy understands why I save the pretty pictures.

41:07 Dad looks at them sometimes he's like what is a picture?

41:12 [laughter] He's like where's the hats?

41:14 Uh this question uh can you do a live stream

41:16 or video talking about artists in the 18th century in North America?

41:20 Uh there just aren't very many.

41:23 Um there's really only only one and he was doing

41:27 his art in Great Britain even though he's from North America.

41:29 So It's a would be a very short live stream.

41:33 I do we did do a live stream some time ago that was

41:38 about drawing and artists and I'm trying to remember the name of it.

41:41 It was one of the really early ones I did.

41:43 I'll I'll I'll link it if I can remember which one it was.

41:47 Okay, any other pictures that we need to get to?

41:49 Yeah.

41:50 Yeah, we are.

41:50 I still have some hold on.

41:52 I'm getting there.

41:53 got like 40 slides for today.

41:55 I was all prepared.

41:57 Okay, there's a teapot.

41:59 Okay, this is another Sandby.

42:03 Uh this one I was I like the water in this one.

42:07 Um I'm always impressed when people do water.

42:10 I can't do water this well.

42:11 Water's hard.

42:13 Um although he did it well.

42:19 Um I mean you you know, you're like that's flowing water.

42:22 I'm not confused at all.

42:23 It looks great.

42:24 Not at all.

42:25 And I love the bridge.

42:26 Yes, I love the bridge.

42:28 I don't know who's walking over the bridge.

42:31 I think it's a guy riding on top of a dog.

42:35 I was thinking it looked like it either looked like a guy walking a giant dog.

42:40 I'm assuming he's I would guess that he's riding a horse or a donkey.

42:46 See here's what I'm impressed by is looking at that I'm

42:50 guessing that this is actually a fairly small piece of art.

42:54 Hmm, yeah.

42:55 Um and to get the water to work in a small

42:59 piece of art is I mean it's I'm not an artist, okay.

43:03 But I think it looks easier to do when you

43:06 got 6 ft of canvas to work with, you know, and you can nuance it.

43:10 Yes.

43:10 But if you're doing something little and you're trying to make water work,

43:13 it's probably a lot more difficult.

43:15 Yeah.

43:17 I shouldn't look up how big paintings are next time I

43:21 Cuz every once in a while just like like the Mona Lisa

43:24 or a lot of the Van Goghs we saw they were much

43:27 smaller than a lot of the reproductions of them that I had seen.

43:30 So it was very interesting to see.

43:32 if you ever see Brueghels or not Brueghels but um what's his name?

43:40 Uh yeah, Brueghels.

43:41 They're much smaller.

43:43 Really?

43:43 Oh yeah.

43:44 Well, he's packing it in, eh?

43:45 Oh, I mean you just you really have to And like

43:50 that being able to do that level of detail on that scale,

43:53 you know, as so much packed into the area

43:55 that is that does make it more impressive.

43:58 Right.

43:58 And we've done a live stream on miniatures.

44:01 Yes.

44:01 And what have we not done a live stream on?

44:04 Okay, here we go.

44:06 I was impressed by the textures in this one especially his shirt.

44:11 Um wrinkles are hard.

44:13 So is hair.

44:15 Um both the wrinkles on his clothing

44:17 and on his skin and his hands are very impressive, too.

44:21 Um my our grandmother is an artist and she

44:26 um gave me art lessons and Lauren and Sydney

44:29 art lessons separately and she would have us

44:32 do study specifically on hands because hands are hard.

44:36 Um your brain wants to draw hands in a certain

44:41 way um and that's not what hands actually look like.

44:45 Your brain wants to draw things a lot of things in a certain way.

44:49 and all that good stuff when you can't see them.

44:52 You Yes.

44:53 Well, and you know, you're talking about their ability to do this, you know,

44:57 fine level of detail like with the the shirt and that and for us

45:02 trying to recreate things from the 18th century, you know,

45:05 often working with text descriptions and then it's so wonderful to have

45:09 these artists who care so much and are doing such a high level

45:13 job of capturing what they're seeing so that we can do our best

45:16 to recreate it and kind of have the aid of, you know,

45:20 looking back at the visual cuz the written descriptions are wonderful but they

45:24 are missing key hints and so you can find those in the pictures.

45:28 Yeah.

45:29 Go ahead.

45:30 One more thing about this painting is that this man

45:34 he just seems like someone you would meet today.

45:36 Like I can I can just imagine this kind of person.

45:40 Um you know, just uh as a normal person that you would meet today.

45:45 He's one of the shopkeepers here in Pierstown.

45:47 This is his this is his retirement job.

45:49 And he would chat to you for like 15 minutes while you would

45:52 just wanted to check out but you would still enjoy [laughter] the conversation.

45:57 would.

45:56 Um Uh yeah, look at the seam in that in on the shoulder of the shirt,

46:05 uh the band collar and the the detail that we have of that just just amazing.

46:12 So we So Kingdom Minded Warrior was wondering if there was

46:15 a reason that there was such a long tube on the pipe.

46:18 Does it smoke better that way?

46:20 Yeah, it's a cooler smoke.

46:22 I thought I thought this pipe just looked funny in general but Well,

46:26 he's holding it sideways.

46:28 We actually did have some really long

46:30 churchwardens like this for a while and they

46:32 like people loved them but they were just they broke too much in shipping.

46:35 It was so sad.

46:36 up on them.

46:37 I I did like I I am really sorry about that.

46:40 It's one of one of the things that that we

46:43 discontinued just cuz of that sort of complication.

46:49 Another Sandby.

46:50 I think we did this one in the Did we do a picnic one?

46:55 I feel like we did do a picnic one.

46:56 We did do a picnic live stream and I think that this is from that one.

47:00 Um Who can remember?

47:03 This just looks like I would have a picnic here.

47:07 It's beautiful.

47:08 It kind of reminds me of um Box Hill.

47:11 Yes, and how it's described in Emma.

47:14 And um it's just it's and how far you

47:21 can see from up there and obviously it's a popular

47:24 picnic spot because there's at least two people or two

47:27 groups of people that are up here having a picnic.

47:31 And maybe they're from that um that manor house that's down that's down there.

47:37 They don't look quite well to me.

47:40 Not really.

47:42 Oh, here's a little cat and I I loved about this cat

47:48 that the mouse is literally right behind it and it it doesn't care.

47:53 It's in the sun.

47:54 It's having a nice time.

47:55 It does not care about the mouse.

47:57 It's not working right now.

47:58 It's on its lunch break.

48:00 It's like every other cat I know.

48:01 He's he's ignoring his only job.

48:04 Yes.

48:04 [laughter] And I love the texture, the fur,

48:07 the way that its eyes are closed like cats' eyes

48:11 close when they're happy and it's just a piece just Well,

48:15 in this case we have and we don't talk about

48:17 this much though that you've got two layers of artists here.

48:20 This is a This is an engraving or a you

48:23 know whatever technique they used for this particular thing.

48:27 So there's the original artist who did it in probably some [snorts] other Right.

48:32 medium and then the artist who has

48:34 to transfer this into the way it's printed here.

48:38 See Dad does have things to say about these.

48:42 Uh-huh.

48:41 But he just wouldn't say them.

48:44 [laughter] Next.

48:45 say look that's a cat.

48:48 We've done this one before.

48:49 We have.

48:50 This one is a washing day and I think it's

48:53 fun that this is uh This isn't Paul Sandby's house.

48:59 This is the garden of Thomas Sandby's house.

49:01 I wonder if they're related.

49:03 I think they are.

49:04 Yes, so I think it's his brother's house.

49:06 [laughter] Well, they might not be.

49:11 It's possible.

49:12 But no, I think it was his brother.

49:14 What are the chances?

49:16 [laughter]

49:17 Um And what's the little um the little building in the back right corner, Dad?

49:22 Do you know?

49:23 It's the house or it might be an outdoor kitchen where they do the laundry.

49:29 It looks too small to be the house.

49:31 Well, then it's probably an outdoor building

49:33 that they do things It's washing in.

49:36 And I love the willow behind them.

49:39 And that there's the different textures in the trees.

49:42 And And a kid chasing a goose, which every Right through the laundry.

49:50 Yep.

49:49 And I I always it it is not uncommon

49:55 for you to be looking for something to be depicted, right?

50:00 And for you to struggle to find artistic depictions of it.

50:04 And laundry can be one of those things where you know that people were doing it

50:07 day in day or week in and week out cuz there was probably a laundry day.

50:11 And then but that you don't find it in depicted in art

50:16 as much as you would proportionately as you would hope to see.

50:20 So, I I'm always excited to see some of those things in a in a picture.

50:23 Too true.

50:24 And there's dogs in this picture.

50:27 I don't know what kind of dogs, but they're dogs.

50:31 Sporting dogs, I do believe.

50:35 I think this is the last one and then we'll go back to you.

50:38 That's it.

50:38 And I did I thought I put more pictures in.

50:42 I took a photo more than but obviously I didn't.

50:45 Um um cuz I think there was the one that I was going to try and put

50:48 in that was like the prisoner um painting that I put in there but it's fine.

50:55 I didn't put it in.

50:55 You can imagine it.

50:57 Yes.

50:57 It was I got to see it.

50:58 It was a great picture.

50:59 Yes.

50:59 I only took a half day today because it was Good Friday today so

51:04 um I came in late and I rushed to get the live stream and I got dressed like

51:10 15 minutes before the live stream and We got

51:14 We all rolled in in time to get it started.

51:16 of times that Dad only is in his period

51:20 clothes about 15 minutes before the live stream, 5 minutes.

51:24 10 minutes.

51:25 Is that every time?

51:26 Yes.

51:26 It is It is every time.

51:27 It's I wear 18th century clothes all the time.

51:31 24/7.

51:32 24/7.

51:33 That makes any outfit he wears [laughter] period.

51:36 Yes.

51:36 By hand and he wears it all the time.

51:39 Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

51:43 Okay.

51:43 I think that that's it unless Lauren, do you have anything else?

51:47 I More super chats or questions?

51:50 Oh oh.

51:51 Uh Rose was saying, "How about a show

51:53 about 18th century artists?" Which would be fun, right?

51:56 be fun.

51:57 Yeah.

51:58 That would be she said women artists.

52:00 Oh, I'm sorry.

52:01 Yes.

52:02 18th century women artists.

52:03 Did I not include that part?

52:04 There are some famous ones.

52:06 Mhm.

52:06 Yeah.

52:07 [clears throat] Yep.

52:07 Yep.

52:09 Okay.

52:09 Yes.

52:10 I think we are all caught up.

52:11 All right.

52:12 Well, I guess thank you all for coming into the tavern today.

52:16 Thank you for um coming even though I'm sure I'm a worse presenter than Dad is.

52:22 And Practice.

52:24 Practice practice makes perfect.

52:26 That's what I'm doing right now.

52:27 I'm practicing.

52:28 Um and I hope you guys all have a great

52:31 Easter weekend and thank you guys so much for watching.

52:34 We'll see you later.

52:35 Yep.

52:36 Bye.